Great book! So much information about Luther and the 15th and 16th centuries. I didn’t realize this period was a Theocracy. I love history and will be looking for more books during this period. Bad morals always follow bad theology and God allowed a period where Luther could see through the wind. The wind is blowing hard now, 2018, please pray. Pray that God will allow the wind to die down and He will raise up another Luther to reform our churches! Kudos to Metaxas he is not afraid in print, radio, speaking and interviews to be a voice through the wind. Buy this book!
When I first heard him I did cringe a bit. But the more you listen and understand his heart the more you get to love him. He sounds like someone that could write Vegie Tales! I will gladly read his books.
dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my gf during the lockdown =)
@Anon Di I agree it is not taken from the Bible ...so it begs the question why anyone would conform to an abstinence that could not possibly be binding on anyone.
Eric Metaxas' humor is an acquired taste. I do appreciate the whimsicality but sometimes wish he would dial, it back a bit. Por ejemplo, the myth bit. Were any of those actually believed myths? That would have been a good time to mention that nailing the 95 thesis' on the church doors was not a flaming radical action. That's just where you posted notices. Thornbury's critique of Luther at the end is pretty tepid and Metaxas' answer is spot on. Uniformity is not unity and schism is the price of freedom of thought. I wonder if Eric touches on deeper problems with Luther in his book, such as his antisemitic attitude toward Jews when they rebuffed his attempts at evangelism or his indefensible hatred of Anabaptists who were closer to Biblical truth than Luther was. Delighting in the concept of burning people at the stake for opposing infant baptism shows you can take the man out of the Roman Catholic religion but it's harder to get all the Roman Catholic religion out of the man.
Thanks Donblosser 8720, especially about your Anabaptist point. I was long a member of JM Boice's Church, Tenth Pres. in Philly. Once in the quarterly denominational mag. they presented the case of a man desiring baptism, (believer's baptism). Horrors! He'd been baptized as an unbelieving infant. They refused him on "doctrinal" grounds! And yes, Calvin signed the death warrant for an Anabaptist to be burned. Reformed doctrine is still greatly R.C. I have argued much with Covenant Reformed, especially from Westminster Seminary, Phila. To avoid the newness (N. T.) of the Pauline doctrines of the believer's unity with Christ in His death and resurrection, they move the death of Christ back into eternity past! They misquote Rev.13:8 "whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.". Comparison with Rev. 17:8 shows that " from the foundation of the world" intends the time of the writing, not the time of the Lamb's slaying. But they are so stuck in the RC Church that they insist that the Church is Israel.
Jesus did not come to control people, but to serve them. Gentleness and respect means that everyone has a personal responsibility, because of the gentleness and respect of Jesus about this. If God wanted robots, He would have made us like that.
been watching a these videos lately. there is good content here but Eric's introduction speeches are usually make cringe...the way fabricates a huge story that passes as sarcasm.
It is not cringe...it is comedy to get the crowd engaged before they are bombarded by history which is usually boring to most people and loses their attention.
This comment is meant for Protest in Badlapur and should appear here. Indians respect Divine Mother and honor her. Why cannot they respect and honor human women?
"I've always had trouble with the immaculate conception" said Eric Mataxas to Alice Von Hildebrand. "How do you read the Bible? On your KNEES!" Was her reply. In other words, don't let your pride cause you to presume that you know. Hear that, Martin Luther?
Did she take off her shoes also and stand on the holy Bible before reading? 'Give ear," does not entail a painful sacrifice or show or devotion. " Listen and "live" says the Lord.
A fundamental Question Could be as a Simple Spark as Why Was Charly Chaplin Famous and yet he did not speak . The Answer would be that Big old Web We Left far behind and the new web. hey ! Got a Website ? Can i give you my card ? heheheh :) Coz that is the only balanced Anarchy we can get to see.
So, just when did they do the Core Sample on his Dead Body. BTW, They did find the dried blood of Jesus at the crucifixion site, it contains only 24 Chromosomes, 23 from Mary and just One Y from Guess Who. HalleluYAH & Maranatha. joachim.
Martin Luther Tested relatives of Protestant reformer Martin Luther belonged to Haplogroup I2a-Din-N (L147.2+).[60] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historic_people
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If one prescribes to the law of non-contradiction, how can one be a "pro-catholic" Protestant? The Catholic is either breaking the first commandment and is committing idolatry when he is worshipping the Eucharist or the Protestant is a heretic for rejecting Christ's and the Apostles' teaching on transubstantiation. Socrates would condemn this doublethink, but I can't say I'm not surprised. This talk was full of doublethink, unfortunately.
I suppose if you can hammer someone's words to fit your definitions then you can accuse anyone of double think. Being pro-catholic does not mean you agree with what they believe, and if you must condemn everyone for their short comings and proclaim them idolaters you will live a lonely life. Must we condemn those whom we believe wrong with the same breath we use to show respect for the influences some of their common beliefs have on the world. Can we not read in context? Are we literally lilies of the field or seed among thorns, or is it possible Christ spoke in metaphors? Catholics have a ridiculous battle on their hands with transubstantiation. I am pro-Catholic in reference to some of the good historical influences while also thinking some of their beliefs are ridiculous. Maybe that is just me thinking twice.
Caleb Morgan Coming remotely close to promoting something as "good" that will drag you to hell seems imprudent and uncharitable. Catholics do have a large hill to climb with transubstantiation. They have to pray and rely on faith from God, be willing to look deep in history all the way to the Apostles (beyond Luther), research all the Eucharistic miracles, and read the Bible (John 6:51-58, etc).
@@CalebMorgan John 6:53-54 53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. 54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. “And this food is called among us Eucharistia, of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these, but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Savior, having been made flesh by the word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh (Saint Justin, theologian, martyr, 135 AD)”
@@philosophicalneocan't argue with Justin. He does not claim that the hands of the celebrant transformed the bread and the wine, but the "prayer of God's Word." The focus is not on the power of the person presiding, but the One he invokes.
@@bdff4007 do you think it is the priest being a magician who performs transubstantiation? because youre right, even in the common liturgy it is a prayer to the Holy Spirit to make the offerings the body and blood of Christ in other words, youre not fully embracing the fact that it is taught as the TRUE PRESENCE... that is what differentiates denominational teachings
Since I have not read Eric Metaxas' Martin Luther: The Man Who Rediscovered God and Changed the World, does he cover the following in his book? 1. That on his own authority in his German translation of the Bible, Martin Luther added the word ALONE (Allein) to Romans 3:28 to read, "For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)" to justify his doctrine of Sola Fide, i.e., Justification by Faith Alone. [Michael Davies, Cranmer's Godly Order (Ft. Collins, Colorado, 1995), p.25.] 2. That he wrote the following regarding his addition of the word ALONE (Allein) to Romans 3:28: "If your papist worries you about the word 'alone', just tell him plainly that Dr. Martin Luther will have it so, and says: 'Papist and donkey are one and the same thing; sic volo, sic jubeo, stat pro ratione voluntas.' For we must not be the pupils or disciples of the papists, but on the contrary their masters and judges. We ought to swagger and hammer on their donkey-heads, and, as Paul challenged the sanctimonious fools of his day, so I will also challenge these donkeys of mine." [G.W. Bromiley, Thomas Cranmer Theologian (London, 1956), p.36.] 3. That in addition to the above concerning Romans 3:28, Luther also wrote: "I am sorry now that I did not add the word 'all' so that it would read 'without all works of all laws', and thus ring out loudly and completely. However, it shall stand as it is in my New Testament, and though all the Papist-donkeys go mad about it, they shall not move me from this." [A. Hilliard Atteridge, Martin Luther (London, 1940), pp.19-20.] 4. That although subsequent German translations removed the word ALONE (Allein) from Romans 3:28 to accurately transmit in German what St. Paul originally wrote, Luther steadfastly held on to the doctrine of Sola Fide derived from his additional word, which then was adopted by the major 16th century Protestant Reformers who initiated organizations that continue on to the present day and which include: (A) John Calvin (Reformed) in his Institutes of the Christian Religion, (B) Thomas Cranmer (Church of England/Anglicanism) in No. VIII of 39 Articles in his Book of Common Prayer, and (C) Calvin's student John Knox (Presbyterianism) in his writings and homilies. 5. That in 1537 Martin Luther composed his Smalcald Articles that include his teaching that the Pope, the Catholic Bishop of Rome is the Antichrist (In 1580 these articles were added to the Book of Concord, which is considered authoritative in Lutheranism). 6. That this teaching of Luther's of the Pope as Antichrist was subsequently adopted by all of the 16th century Protestant Reformers which include: (A) John Calvin, specifically in Book IV of his Institutes of the Christian Religion; (B) Thomas Cranmer in his works, and (C) John Knox most vehemently in his writings and homilies. Later in the 17th century, this teaching of the Pope as Antichrist was adopted by free-lance Anglican clergyman John Wesley, founder of Methodism. 7. That in 1543 Martin Luther composed his On The Jews and Their Lies, the content of which is so inflammatory and incendiary that its contents should not be quoted in social media in light of what happened to German Jewry, particularly in the 20th century. 8. That one year before his death in 1546, Martin Luther published his final written testament where he personally addressed the Pope, the Catholic Bishop of Rome with these words: "I would not dream of judging or punishing you, except to say that you were born from the behind of the devil, are full of devils, lies, blasphemy, and idolatry; are the instigator of these things, God’s enemy, Antichrist, desolater of Christendom, and steward of Sodom." [From Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil, pg. 363 of Luther’s Works, Vol. 41] 9. To be fair to Martin Luther, I have to consider the possibility that in these two above mentioned works published a few years before his death, (A) On The Jews and Their Lies and (B) Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil, he was suffering from some form of dementia which may have been induced by his voluminous intake of alcohol in the forms of beer and wine. 10. Is the possibility of No. 9 included in Eric Metaxas' biography of Martin Luther?
""For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)" Well that''s emphasising it. ... but the sentence continues in all translations....apart from works of the law. Faith will justify, works of law won't. It must of course be faith as understood there. The issue is only that Protestants tend to misunderstand faith. Just considering something true isn't enough. Faith itself is a Gift. So in some sense, Protestants are still too Catholic. They do the baby-sprinkling as well... And it's a corporate church, too.
1. ""For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)" Well that''s emphasizing it. ... but the sentence continues in all translations....apart from works of the law. Response: A. When the word (Allein) is added to a German translation of the New Testament, that is tampering with/falsifying the sacred text. B. Even John Calvin in his Institutes of the Christian Religion admitted that the word 'alone' is never combined with the word 'faith' in the Bible: "The reader now perceives with what fairness the Sophists of the present day cavil at our doctrine, when we say that a man is justified by faith alone (Rom. 4:2). They dare not deny that he is justified by faith, seeing Scripture so often declares it; but as the word alone is nowhere expressly used they will not tolerate its being added." [John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III, Chapter 11, No. 19; Beveridge translation, p. 459; nts library website, Institutes pdf 467 of 944] 2. Faith will justify, works of law won't. Response: Might you consider the following scriptural sequence? A. The Apostle Peter in Acts 15:11 (ESV) speaks to the Jerusalem Council regarding Jews and Gentiles: "But we believe that we will be saved through the GRACE of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” B. The Apostle Paul writes in Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV): "For by GRACE you have been saved through FAITH. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." C. In Galatians 5:6 (ESV) Paul appears to qualify FAITH with the necessity of LOVE: "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only FAITH working through LOVE." D. In 1 Corinthians 13:2 (ESV), Paul appears to be making a distinction between FAITH and LOVE: "If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have absolute FAITH so as to move mountains, but have not LOVE, I am nothing." E. In 1 Corinthians 13:13 (ESV), besides making a distinction between FAITH and LOVE, Paul appears to be saying that LOVE is greater than FAITH: "And now these three remain: FAITH, hope and LOVE; but the greatest of these is LOVE." F. What does Jesus have to say about LOVE in the divine economy of God's GRACE and FAITH? "And the scribe said to Him, 'You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that He is one, and there is no other besides Him. And to LOVE Him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to LOVE one’s neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.' And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, 'You are not far from the kingdom of God.' And after that no one dared to ask Him any more questions." (Mark 12:32-34, ESV) Isn't Jesus insisting on the necessity of LOVE in the participation with God's GRACE and FAITH? G. Conclusion: Could it be that the justification of Christians consists in a network of (A) GRACE, (B) FAITH and (C) LOVE that is modeled on the interior relations of the Holy Trinity and is actually an exterior participation with them? (1) GRACE corresponds to the monarchy of The Father who is without origin and the source of all divinity in the One God. (2) FAITH corresponds to The Son who proceeds from The Father, since it is the revelation of God's Incarnate Son that is the object of belief; "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation" (Colossians 1:15 (ESV); - and - (3) LOVE corresponds to The Holy Spirit who St. Augustine of Hippo in his book De Trinitate taught is "the Spirit of love, which joins Father and Son and draws people into this communion" [Quoting from the Britannica website, /topic/The-Trinity-by-Augustine]
@@annakimborahpa A. It's indeed an emphasis and not a necessary one, the allein. But that's because it's redundant. But this is actually a common thing in bible translation that there is some shift in from what's actually written. Sometimes it's a misleading one as well. E.g. The word Church is nowhere in the bible. The actual word translated in many bible's is 'ecclesia', which is a gathering, while church implies a corporate organization with a command structure with membership adhered to by signing a few forms or something you can be sprinkled into as a baby. The body of Christ, in Christ, one comes into via faith and subsequently being born again. If I did a study, I'd probably find plenty of other errors and misunderstandings in translations. And I'm not even suggesting those were 'intentional deceptions'. The translators were commonly brought up with some type of theology and that influenced their translation hermeneutics in some way. E.g. if that theology is connected to a church, they will be prone to translate ecclesia as church. Even when church doesn't translate back as ecclesia. B. Well, is the *love* referred to a 'works of law'? Is it carnal? Or is it a fruit of the Spirit as indicated in Galatians 5. I agree that the the popular faith alone doctrine tends to cut too short. Because there is also something like carnal faith as well. Like believing the word of another person, because one respects that person. But so do the works by Christian legalists (many sects are like that). The 'good works of the Catholics' are in a similar vein. They are entirely carnal works in line with humanitarianism, which is the essence of carnality to begin with. But what is humane? Well anything humans do is per definition humane. Any sin is humane. Christianity literally requires to become inhumane. Instead you have to become Spiritual. Have fruits of the Spirit, which are per definition from the divine. And they are works of faith, the only real ones. Working at the hospital, donating to charity, to the church, etc. Those are all not spiritual works of faith on their own. And it doesn't mean that this is bad in itself, just don't think that it makes you a better person. Flesh cultivation can achieve the same. There is plenty of Atheists, Agnostics, pagans, Muslims, etc. engaging in charity as well. But it won't earn them 'salvation' points or buys them a ticket to heaven. When Paul says that the works of the law can't save you, he meant that and I think we can trust him on this. I'd trust him more than a convent of cardinals or the WCC, anytime.
A. "If I did a study, I'd probably find plenty of other errors and misunderstandings in translations." Response: When you make such a claim, I'd like to see you back it with research. B. "When Paul says that the works of the law can't save you, he meant that and I think we can trust him on this." Response: 1. Works of the law in that context were referring to the ritual observances of the Mosaic Law. 2. Gospel of Luke 18:25-30 (ESV): "For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” Those who heard it said, “Then who can be saved?” But He [Jesus] said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.” And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” And He [Jesus] said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”
@@annakimborahpa The misunderstandings would indeed be an interesting research topic. I should however say that the basics still can be gotten, even from weak translations. The thing is just that the meanings get washed down more and more and it can be atrocious to read. 'Works of the law' Isn't solely the 'ritual observance' it's the full law of Moses. Which one can't keep fully anyway. Because keeping all outward rules isn't enough. Those that are 'rich' (rich in good works, good worldly people) are indeed in a more difficult position to enter. Because they struggle to accept that their humane goodness is still insufficient in terms what God requires. That's the underlying message of 'Jesus and the rich man'. Not his discourse with Jesus there. Faith and obedience are in the end the same thing. The obedience can't be done in carnality, though. The passions of the flesh need to be crucified with Christ and not only cultivated, which is what many cults try to train their members doing. That is indeed then 'works salvation' (Which does not work). And those people may indeed live better than subjective hedonists, simply because it is healthier.
Whose teeth DID Shelley Winters have ? Where can I purchase a tiny tome ? Should Goofy Asides be outlawed by social media " platforms" as dog whistles for youknowwhats ? All these questions and more still REMAIN UNANSWERED after watching this ! Sod you guys ! No, really !
So happy that you guys are posting more this year !!!! Thank God for you !!!
Great book! So much information about Luther and the 15th and 16th centuries. I didn’t realize this period was a Theocracy. I love history and will be looking for more books during this period. Bad morals always follow bad theology and God allowed a period where Luther could see through the wind. The wind is blowing hard now, 2018, please pray. Pray that God will allow the wind to die down and He will raise up another Luther to reform our churches! Kudos to Metaxas he is not afraid in print, radio, speaking and interviews to be a voice through the wind. Buy this book!
(31:57) Ironic that the emperor-esque papacy that wanted to embrass him, ended up giving him the largest platform.
The context of this period was great. In addition, this was the most enjoyable book interview.
This is a fantastic dialogue
When I first heard him I did cringe a bit. But the more you listen and understand his heart the more you get to love him. He sounds like someone that could write Vegie Tales! I will gladly read his books.
I'm just blown away
Eric is a total hoot. Love it. He's quick firing, kinda like Don Rickles in his prime, only Eric's a lot nicer, a lot lot nicer.
So enjoyable 😉....
I too, depend on the grace of God, as shown in Romans.
Grace thru Christ and the cross!!
dont know if anyone gives a damn but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my gf during the lockdown =)
@Graham Will Yup, I've been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
@Graham Will yea, I have been watching on instaflixxer for since december myself =)
And the ritual of Lent and eating fish on Friday is still observed although there is no reference in the Bible.
@Anon Di I agree it is not taken from the Bible ...so it begs the question why anyone would conform to an abstinence that could not possibly be binding on anyone.
Eric Metaxas' humor is an acquired taste. I do appreciate the whimsicality but sometimes wish he would dial, it back a bit. Por ejemplo, the myth bit. Were any of those actually believed myths? That would have been a good time to mention that nailing the 95 thesis' on the church doors was not a flaming radical action. That's just where you posted notices.
Thornbury's critique of Luther at the end is pretty tepid and Metaxas' answer is spot on. Uniformity is not unity and schism is the price of freedom of thought. I wonder if Eric touches on deeper problems with Luther in his book, such as his antisemitic attitude toward Jews when they rebuffed his attempts at evangelism or his indefensible hatred of Anabaptists who were closer to Biblical truth than Luther was. Delighting in the concept of burning people at the stake for opposing infant baptism shows you can take the man out of the Roman Catholic religion but it's harder to get all the Roman Catholic religion out of the man.
Thanks Donblosser 8720, especially about your Anabaptist point. I was long a member of JM Boice's Church, Tenth Pres. in Philly. Once in the quarterly denominational mag. they presented the case of a man desiring baptism, (believer's baptism). Horrors! He'd been baptized as an unbelieving infant. They refused him on "doctrinal" grounds! And yes, Calvin signed the death warrant for an Anabaptist to be burned. Reformed doctrine is still greatly R.C. I have argued much with Covenant Reformed, especially from Westminster Seminary, Phila. To avoid the newness (N. T.) of the Pauline doctrines of the believer's unity with Christ in His death and resurrection, they move the death of Christ back into eternity past! They misquote Rev.13:8 "whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.". Comparison with Rev. 17:8 shows that " from the foundation of the world" intends the time of the writing, not the time of the Lamb's slaying. But they are so stuck in the RC Church that they insist that the Church is Israel.
He's quite the comedian that fellow
Have an ice cream 🍦 😊😋🤗.
Jesus did not come to control people, but to serve them. Gentleness and respect means that everyone has a personal responsibility, because of the gentleness and respect of Jesus about this. If God wanted robots, He would have made us like that.
We no longer have the right of dissent in 2021 America.
That's a good thing
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When you ranked ML second to Jesus you left out the Apostle Paul. Without Paul there would be no ML there fore he should rank second after Jesus.
ATTABOY, LUTHER !!
Martin Luther despised the Jews. It was an issue.
been watching a these videos lately. there is good content here but Eric's introduction speeches are usually make cringe...the way fabricates a huge story that passes as sarcasm.
It is not cringe...it is comedy to get the crowd engaged before they are bombarded by history which is usually boring to most people and loses their attention.
This comment is meant for Protest in Badlapur and should appear here. Indians respect Divine Mother and honor her. Why cannot they respect and honor human women?
"I've always had trouble with the immaculate conception"
said Eric Mataxas to Alice Von Hildebrand.
"How do you read the Bible?
On your KNEES!"
Was her reply.
In other words, don't let your pride cause you to presume that you know.
Hear that, Martin Luther?
Did she take off her shoes also and stand on the holy Bible before reading? 'Give ear," does not entail a painful sacrifice or show or devotion. " Listen and "live" says the Lord.
Luther wrote 2 books talking horribly about what "we" should do the jews! It lined up with what hitler ended up doing.. its disturbing
A fundamental Question Could be as a Simple Spark as Why Was Charly Chaplin Famous and yet he did not speak .
The Answer would be that Big old Web We Left far behind and the new web. hey ! Got a Website ? Can i give you my card ? heheheh :) Coz that is the only balanced Anarchy we can get to see.
A pro Luther book from a protestant, who would know, how about the real Martin Luther?
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Wasnt Luther antisemetic?
@@stephrogan6404 yes.
Martin Luther has Macedonian DNA he is part of the Haplogroup I (:
So, just when did they do the Core Sample on his Dead Body.
BTW, They did find the dried blood of Jesus at the crucifixion site, it contains only 24 Chromosomes, 23 from Mary and just One Y from Guess Who.
HalleluYAH & Maranatha.
joachim.
Martin Luther
Tested relatives of Protestant reformer Martin Luther belonged to Haplogroup I2a-Din-N (L147.2+).[60] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historic_people
Geliefde Liefde You've taken the ad hominem to a whole new level and your point is, therefore, fallacious
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Luther is more influential than Paul?😂😂
If one prescribes to the law of non-contradiction, how can one be a "pro-catholic" Protestant? The Catholic is either breaking the first commandment and is committing idolatry when he is worshipping the Eucharist or the Protestant is a heretic for rejecting Christ's and the Apostles' teaching on transubstantiation. Socrates would condemn this doublethink, but I can't say I'm not surprised. This talk was full of doublethink, unfortunately.
I suppose if you can hammer someone's words to fit your definitions then you can accuse anyone of double think. Being pro-catholic does not mean you agree with what they believe, and if you must condemn everyone for their short comings and proclaim them idolaters you will live a lonely life. Must we condemn those whom we believe wrong with the same breath we use to show respect for the influences some of their common beliefs have on the world. Can we not read in context? Are we literally lilies of the field or seed among thorns, or is it possible Christ spoke in metaphors? Catholics have a ridiculous battle on their hands with transubstantiation. I am pro-Catholic in reference to some of the good historical influences while also thinking some of their beliefs are ridiculous. Maybe that is just me thinking twice.
Caleb Morgan Coming remotely close to promoting something as "good" that will drag you to hell seems imprudent and uncharitable.
Catholics do have a large hill to climb with transubstantiation. They have to pray and rely on faith from God, be willing to look deep in history all the way to the Apostles (beyond Luther), research all the Eucharistic miracles, and read the Bible (John 6:51-58, etc).
@@CalebMorgan John 6:53-54
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
“And this food is called among us Eucharistia, of which no one is allowed to partake but the man who believes that the things which we teach are true, and who has been washed with the washing that is for the remission of sins, unto regeneration, and who is so living as Christ enjoined. For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these, but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Savior, having been made flesh by the word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh (Saint Justin, theologian, martyr, 135 AD)”
@@philosophicalneocan't argue with Justin. He does not claim that the hands of the celebrant transformed the bread and the wine, but the "prayer of God's Word." The focus is not on the power of the person presiding, but the One he invokes.
@@bdff4007 do you think it is the priest being a magician who performs transubstantiation?
because youre right, even in the common liturgy it is a prayer to the Holy Spirit to make the offerings the body and blood of Christ
in other words, youre not fully embracing the fact that it is taught as the TRUE PRESENCE... that is what differentiates denominational teachings
And let all the Catholics start hating...go......!
Since I have not read Eric Metaxas' Martin Luther: The Man Who Rediscovered God and Changed the World, does he cover the following in his book?
1. That on his own authority in his German translation of the Bible, Martin Luther added the word ALONE (Allein) to Romans 3:28 to read, "For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)" to justify his doctrine of Sola Fide, i.e., Justification by Faith Alone. [Michael Davies, Cranmer's Godly Order (Ft. Collins, Colorado, 1995), p.25.]
2. That he wrote the following regarding his addition of the word ALONE (Allein) to Romans 3:28: "If your papist worries you about the word 'alone', just tell him plainly that Dr. Martin Luther will have it so, and says: 'Papist and donkey are one and the same thing; sic volo, sic jubeo, stat pro ratione voluntas.' For we must not be the pupils or disciples of the papists, but on the contrary their masters and judges. We ought to swagger and hammer on their donkey-heads, and, as Paul challenged the sanctimonious fools of his day, so I will also challenge these donkeys of mine." [G.W. Bromiley, Thomas Cranmer Theologian (London, 1956), p.36.]
3. That in addition to the above concerning Romans 3:28, Luther also wrote: "I am sorry now that I did not add the word 'all' so that it would read 'without all works of all laws', and thus ring out loudly and completely. However, it shall stand as it is in my New Testament, and though all the Papist-donkeys go mad about it, they shall not move me from this." [A. Hilliard Atteridge, Martin Luther (London, 1940), pp.19-20.]
4. That although subsequent German translations removed the word ALONE (Allein) from Romans 3:28 to accurately transmit in German what St. Paul originally wrote, Luther steadfastly held on to the doctrine of Sola Fide derived from his additional word, which then was adopted by the major 16th century Protestant Reformers who initiated organizations that continue on to the present day and which include: (A) John Calvin (Reformed) in his Institutes of the Christian Religion, (B) Thomas Cranmer (Church of England/Anglicanism) in No. VIII of 39 Articles in his Book of Common Prayer, and (C) Calvin's student John Knox (Presbyterianism) in his writings and homilies.
5. That in 1537 Martin Luther composed his Smalcald Articles that include his teaching that the Pope, the Catholic Bishop of Rome is the Antichrist (In 1580 these articles were added to the Book of Concord, which is considered authoritative in Lutheranism).
6. That this teaching of Luther's of the Pope as Antichrist was subsequently adopted by all of the 16th century Protestant Reformers which include: (A) John Calvin, specifically in Book IV of his Institutes of the Christian Religion; (B) Thomas Cranmer in his works, and (C) John Knox most vehemently in his writings and homilies. Later in the 17th century, this teaching of the Pope as Antichrist was adopted by free-lance Anglican clergyman John Wesley, founder of Methodism.
7. That in 1543 Martin Luther composed his On The Jews and Their Lies, the content of which is so inflammatory and incendiary that its contents should not be quoted in social media in light of what happened to German Jewry, particularly in the 20th century.
8. That one year before his death in 1546, Martin Luther published his final written testament where he personally addressed the Pope, the Catholic Bishop of Rome with these words: "I would not dream of judging or punishing you, except to say that you were born from the behind of the devil, are full of devils, lies, blasphemy, and idolatry; are the instigator of these things, God’s enemy, Antichrist, desolater of Christendom, and steward of Sodom." [From Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil, pg. 363 of Luther’s Works, Vol. 41]
9. To be fair to Martin Luther, I have to consider the possibility that in these two above mentioned works published a few years before his death, (A) On The Jews and Their Lies and (B) Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil, he was suffering from some form of dementia which may have been induced by his voluminous intake of alcohol in the forms of beer and wine.
10. Is the possibility of No. 9 included in Eric Metaxas' biography of Martin Luther?
""For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)"
Well that''s emphasising it. ... but the sentence continues in all translations....apart from works of the law.
Faith will justify, works of law won't. It must of course be faith as understood there. The issue is only that Protestants tend to misunderstand faith. Just considering something true isn't enough. Faith itself is a Gift. So in some sense, Protestants are still too Catholic. They do the baby-sprinkling as well... And it's a corporate church, too.
1. ""For we hold that a man is justified by faith ALONE (Allein)" Well that''s emphasizing it. ... but the sentence continues in all translations....apart from works of the law.
Response:
A. When the word (Allein) is added to a German translation of the New Testament, that is tampering with/falsifying the sacred text.
B. Even John Calvin in his Institutes of the Christian Religion admitted that the word 'alone' is never combined with the word 'faith' in the Bible:
"The reader now perceives with what fairness the Sophists of the present day cavil at our doctrine, when we say that a man is justified by faith alone (Rom. 4:2). They dare not deny that he is justified by faith, seeing Scripture so often declares it; but as the word alone is nowhere expressly used they will not tolerate its being added."
[John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III, Chapter 11, No. 19; Beveridge translation, p. 459; nts library website, Institutes pdf 467 of 944]
2. Faith will justify, works of law won't.
Response:
Might you consider the following scriptural sequence?
A. The Apostle Peter in Acts 15:11 (ESV) speaks to the Jerusalem Council regarding Jews and Gentiles: "But we believe that we will be saved through the GRACE of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”
B. The Apostle Paul writes in Ephesians 2:8-9 (ESV): "For by GRACE you have been saved through FAITH. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
C. In Galatians 5:6 (ESV) Paul appears to qualify FAITH with the necessity of LOVE: "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only FAITH working through LOVE."
D. In 1 Corinthians 13:2 (ESV), Paul appears to be making a distinction between FAITH and LOVE: "If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have absolute FAITH so as to move mountains, but have not LOVE, I am nothing."
E. In 1 Corinthians 13:13 (ESV), besides making a distinction between FAITH and LOVE, Paul appears to be saying that LOVE is greater than FAITH: "And now these three remain: FAITH, hope and LOVE; but the greatest of these is LOVE."
F. What does Jesus have to say about LOVE in the divine economy of God's GRACE and FAITH?
"And the scribe said to Him, 'You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that He is one, and there is no other besides Him. And to LOVE Him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to LOVE one’s neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.' And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, 'You are not far from the kingdom of God.' And after that no one dared to ask Him any more questions." (Mark 12:32-34, ESV) Isn't Jesus insisting on the necessity of LOVE in the participation with God's GRACE and FAITH?
G. Conclusion: Could it be that the justification of Christians consists in a network of (A) GRACE, (B) FAITH and (C) LOVE that is modeled on the interior relations of the Holy Trinity and is actually an exterior participation with them?
(1) GRACE corresponds to the monarchy of The Father who is without origin and the source of all divinity in the One God.
(2) FAITH corresponds to The Son who proceeds from The Father, since it is the revelation of God's Incarnate Son that is the object of belief; "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation" (Colossians 1:15 (ESV);
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(3) LOVE corresponds to The Holy Spirit who St. Augustine of Hippo in his book De Trinitate taught is "the Spirit of love, which joins Father and Son and draws people into this communion" [Quoting from the Britannica website, /topic/The-Trinity-by-Augustine]
@@annakimborahpa A. It's indeed an emphasis and not a necessary one, the allein. But that's because it's redundant. But this is actually a common thing in bible translation that there is some shift in from what's actually written. Sometimes it's a misleading one as well. E.g. The word Church is nowhere in the bible. The actual word translated in many bible's is 'ecclesia', which is a gathering, while church implies a corporate organization with a command structure with membership adhered to by signing a few forms or something you can be sprinkled into as a baby. The body of Christ, in Christ, one comes into via faith and subsequently being born again. If I did a study, I'd probably find plenty of other errors and misunderstandings in translations. And I'm not even suggesting those were 'intentional deceptions'. The translators were commonly brought up with some type of theology and that influenced their translation hermeneutics in some way. E.g. if that theology is connected to a church, they will be prone to translate ecclesia as church. Even when church doesn't translate back as ecclesia.
B. Well, is the *love* referred to a 'works of law'? Is it carnal? Or is it a fruit of the Spirit as indicated in Galatians 5.
I agree that the the popular faith alone doctrine tends to cut too short. Because there is also something like carnal faith as well. Like believing the word of another person, because one respects that person. But so do the works by Christian legalists (many sects are like that). The 'good works of the Catholics' are in a similar vein. They are entirely carnal works in line with humanitarianism, which is the essence of carnality to begin with. But what is humane? Well anything humans do is per definition humane. Any sin is humane. Christianity literally requires to become inhumane. Instead you have to become Spiritual. Have fruits of the Spirit, which are per definition from the divine. And they are works of faith, the only real ones. Working at the hospital, donating to charity, to the church, etc. Those are all not spiritual works of faith on their own. And it doesn't mean that this is bad in itself, just don't think that it makes you a better person. Flesh cultivation can achieve the same. There is plenty of Atheists, Agnostics, pagans, Muslims, etc. engaging in charity as well. But it won't earn them 'salvation' points or buys them a ticket to heaven.
When Paul says that the works of the law can't save you, he meant that and I think we can trust him on this. I'd trust him more than a convent of cardinals or the WCC, anytime.
A. "If I did a study, I'd probably find plenty of other errors and misunderstandings in translations."
Response: When you make such a claim, I'd like to see you back it with research.
B. "When Paul says that the works of the law can't save you, he meant that and I think we can trust him on this."
Response:
1. Works of the law in that context were referring to the ritual observances of the Mosaic Law.
2. Gospel of Luke 18:25-30 (ESV): "For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” Those who heard it said, “Then who can be saved?” But He [Jesus] said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.” And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” And He [Jesus] said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”
@@annakimborahpa
The misunderstandings would indeed be an interesting research topic. I should however say that the basics still can be gotten, even from weak translations. The thing is just that the meanings get washed down more and more and it can be atrocious to read.
'Works of the law' Isn't solely the 'ritual observance' it's the full law of Moses. Which one can't keep fully anyway. Because keeping all outward rules isn't enough.
Those that are 'rich' (rich in good works, good worldly people) are indeed in a more difficult position to enter. Because they struggle to accept that their humane goodness is still insufficient in terms what God requires. That's the underlying message of 'Jesus and the rich man'. Not his discourse with Jesus there.
Faith and obedience are in the end the same thing. The obedience can't be done in carnality, though. The passions of the flesh need to be crucified with Christ and not only cultivated, which is what many cults try to train their members doing. That is indeed then 'works salvation' (Which does not work). And those people may indeed live better than subjective hedonists, simply because it is healthier.
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22:10 before anything of substance is said.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
why is God "he"???
Because " it" sounds rude.
Because God calls himself “he.” Fiurther more the “she” was created after God created the first “he”
Read the bible, literally.
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