My Burton Fish LTD (2009) was an absolute game-changer. I've since added a couple of Spring Breaks and Gentemsticks, but 15 years later I still reach for the Fish quite often because it performs so well in all kinds of terrain.
Great chat! Fun to hear my age group talk about all those iconic JG/Terje boards from a standpoint of "I've actually ridden this! It was amazing!". Loved JP's quote at the end on the challenges in life.... I need to adopt that standpoint when things become difficult. Love how everybody raves about the Banked Country! Shane/Mark, I guess we've ridden enough snowboards through enough trends to know that after all you can't re-invent the wheel and that there are some ingredients that will always make 'a good old snowboard'. The Banked Country, imo, is exactly that! I bet Temple went to Mike and Pete and said "Can you just make me a good old snowboard? Like... camber, maybe a tad of early rise, cause I get that that helps... and a smidge of taper, nothing crazy, just a little less width in the tail?! Yeah, and something like a 7/10 flex, not gnarly, but nice and supportive? Yes? Okay! Good! Let's call it the Banked Country!" 🙂 I'd love a tad more pronounced directional flex on that thing and maybe a hint stiffer torsionally, but that's splitting hairs. Great ride! So traditional - minus the mag, which really, it doesn't need that. Anyhow, that was entertaining! Keep it up!! 👏
If you dont ride switch and your not looking for high speed carves, get a pow board. You will probably ride it far more than you think. They truly put the surfing roots back into riding.
@keVINlizzo Absolutely! Tech has come a long way, and I see so many people riding the most popular twins that would never need a board like that but would love a pow/party directional board.
@@chadlucier yup, agreed. Lots of twin riders out there that don’t ride switch…I tell them to go directional or even try a party board for the softer days. Most powder boards can carve really well, and some of the party boards can go switch. This video made me realize I never thanked jG for the boards he’s made, I will in a month when I see him at $towe.
@keVINlizzo let's hope so. Sugarbush has been my home for 20 years, and the long-term forecast isn't looking great. It always comes around eventually, though. Happy trails. [ I love riding my slush slasher switch, or at least love the looks I get, LoL]
@@chadlucier hell yeah VT!!! Dont worry, we’ll have our usual ups and downs. And party boards are fun in the rain haha have a happy and healthy season!
Best episode yet. I was at Baldface about 10 years ago for one of the VST gatherings. Jeff was the kindest and most fun guy ever. I wish I wasn't so shy around him during my stay but the chats we had about shred history were chats I will never forget and nerding out on board tech with him was all time. He was such an open and honest dude. He made us all feel so welcomed. Jeff, people like you are rare in this world. You are a gem of a human.
Great episode!! I still ride my 2012 Burton fish w/camber all over the mountain especially powder. So much fun! Stoked to see how my new mind expander compares 🤯
I have a year 1 Orca and it has been all around the best board I have ever ridden. It has it's downfalls as an every day rider, but I love it and will continue to buy them.
I love all your posts 😊 I'm from the uk 61 years old and been snowboarding since day one. But I learn so much from your posts 😊 keep up the good work 👏
I picked up a 2008 Malolo 166 last week. Top sheet perfect, getting it sharpened and waxed this week. I have a feeling this is gonna be my go to board!
You guys are awesome! Started riding 5 years ago with my kids (I’m 45). I have a gray beard like you guys. Good to now I have many more years of riding! Love your informative content!
Another fantastic episode gents! Loved the whole episode, the history to the boards of now. I have to say I'm quite jealous of the long boards back then, would love a 180. That Airwalk boot sounds rad, haha! Could listen to you two chat snowboards for a long time. Thanks for the mention, I'm on Cardiff because of Jeff! Loved Jeff and his classic humour, was waiting for the ole Banked Country to be talked about!
I bought a Burton Malolo 166 for a trip to Japan back in 2007/8... and it's still my go-to pow board... awesome to ride...!! Great episode and as an "old guy" myself, I love the "back in the day" chat... (I started boarding in 1997..!!😎)
I'm getting ready for snowboarding 🏂 glad tribute lounge is around. With full of awesome lessons on snowboarding and rad gears. Hopefully y'all get more tribute hoodie 🙏
Bigger nose with spoon tech, or a 3D shape, lots of taper, set back/surf camber, and a swallow tail/moon tail. Mid flexing. Those are my favorite types of powder boards.
Jones Mind Expander ...flat to rocker 2020.2021,2022 100% Rajadat Gauranteeed YESSSSSAHHHH!!!!!!! Cheers Snowboarders !!!!!!From North Idaho ----- Schweitzer Mt. !!!!!
Was riding a 97' BMC the last two seasons, 68 I believe. It was soooo good for the steep and deep. I know they're novelty but I'd love some classic old shaped boards, with that super stiff, big camber setup. Awesoome ep guys!
First "Pow" board I ever had was a 165 Burton Barracuda and it blew my mind how effortless riding pow is on the right board. Leg burn completely goes away.
I'm still in deep, deep (pun intended) love with my Burton Barracuda, the first one. Doesn't get much riding really but I adore it every deep day. Changed my life back then. Will ride it till breaks. Might be never.
Love me some riders lounge chat time.Late 90s into the 2000s I was riding a 175 Winterstick Severe Terrain and then a 170 Burton Frontier and a 170 Burton Cascade split board which covered my trips to Chamonix and Gulmarg.The Severe Terrain changed my whole approach to riding.Currently on a 165 Yes PYL
My Ride Berzerker is amazing, shape reminds me of that banked county. its a little narrow but I'm size 10 it works good. iride 156 140 pounds. I'm from the east cost and ride up and down the whole area.and it does good on ice,and love taking it to Utah. Awesome board for Snowbird. I even throw it around on rails.
I have an original 2006 Malolo 158 which I picked up a few years ago but haven't ridden it. Thinking of taking to Hokkaido. Either that or my Archetype, can't decide!
Guessing Jeff was referring to the Airwalk “Halfpipe” boot with a neoprene liner; literally the support of a slipper with the drink ability of a removable beer koozie. Wish I still had mine.
When talking about pow surfers Jeff mentions using verts. Does anyone know how well they work in deep snow ? And are they just for going uphill or can you use them walking through flat sections of terrain too ? Thanks !
Boards were only cut down for one season 1992-93. Midway through that season Burton dropped the blacktop twin, and all the other companies followed the next season.
What's Jeff's height,weight and boot size? I've wanted to try a banked country for years but at 5'9", 155lbs and a 9 boot I wasnt sure whether to go 155 or 159 for an all-mountain freeride deck.
159, Josh!! No brainer! Considering that you bought a Cheater, I can only assume that you're not afraid of some length, and for a non freestyle approach at 5'9" I'd go 159 regardless. Enjoy the ride! :-) 🙌
Love this stuff. 1988 the owner of the skate shop I worked at in New Westminster came back from the ski show in Vegas with 2 Sims snowboards and handed them to us and said have fun kids. Been riding ever since. At my magical height of 5'6" I rode a 172" K2 eldorado in the 90's at Whistler for yrs and man the looks I got with that huge board lol.
That's so funny, when they were talking about how long pow boards were back in the 90s I immediately thought, "were they really that big? How long was the El Dorado?" I loved that board!
I have a Supermodel 181 owned since 2003. Fast at 114.3kph. No back leg burn. Awesome board. Just bought a 2024 Jones Ultra Mind Expander 158. Can't wait to see how new tech is 😅
Hot Take: these “tapered” shapes 4-8ish mm (does nothing)are the new reverse camber, total psychological marketing gimmick. Get a true swallow tail or ride a directional twin with some authority and take lessons😂
My two favourites right there. You guys are gold. If you have never been, save your shekels and get there. You will not regret it. The best place run by amazing people!🫶
This was a great video. Loved the history, but the best part for me was Jeff's humbling answer to the best day at Baldface. Classy!
My Burton Fish LTD (2009) was an absolute game-changer. I've since added a couple of Spring Breaks and Gentemsticks, but 15 years later I still reach for the Fish quite often because it performs so well in all kinds of terrain.
Great chat! Fun to hear my age group talk about all those iconic JG/Terje boards from a standpoint of "I've actually ridden this! It was amazing!".
Loved JP's quote at the end on the challenges in life.... I need to adopt that standpoint when things become difficult.
Love how everybody raves about the Banked Country! Shane/Mark, I guess we've ridden enough snowboards through enough trends to know that after all you can't re-invent the wheel and that there are some ingredients that will always make 'a good old snowboard'. The Banked Country, imo, is exactly that! I bet Temple went to Mike and Pete and said "Can you just make me a good old snowboard? Like... camber, maybe a tad of early rise, cause I get that that helps... and a smidge of taper, nothing crazy, just a little less width in the tail?! Yeah, and something like a 7/10 flex, not gnarly, but nice and supportive? Yes? Okay! Good! Let's call it the Banked Country!" 🙂
I'd love a tad more pronounced directional flex on that thing and maybe a hint stiffer torsionally, but that's splitting hairs. Great ride! So traditional - minus the mag, which really, it doesn't need that.
Anyhow, that was entertaining! Keep it up!! 👏
If you dont ride switch and your not looking for high speed carves, get a pow board. You will probably ride it far more than you think. They truly put the surfing roots back into riding.
@@chadlucier or,…even if you ride switch, and you like to carve, get a pow board
@keVINlizzo Absolutely! Tech has come a long way, and I see so many people riding the most popular twins that would never need a board like that but would love a pow/party directional board.
@@chadlucier yup, agreed. Lots of twin riders out there that don’t ride switch…I tell them to go directional or even try a party board for the softer days. Most powder boards can carve really well, and some of the party boards can go switch. This video made me realize I never thanked jG for the boards he’s made, I will in a month when I see him at $towe.
@keVINlizzo let's hope so. Sugarbush has been my home for 20 years, and the long-term forecast isn't looking great. It always comes around eventually, though. Happy trails.
[ I love riding my slush slasher switch, or at least love the looks I get, LoL]
@@chadlucier hell yeah VT!!! Dont worry, we’ll have our usual ups and downs. And party boards are fun in the rain haha have a happy and healthy season!
Please, we need a episode 2 with Jeff !!!! talking about anything , bindings, riders, etc ... !!!!!!!!!!!
powsurf rant was all time! JP knows whats good
“Every board is a powder board, if you go fast enough.” - Chad Otterstrom
Baldface is a bucket list trip. I wish I could go so badly.
I saw the title, and hit ‘like’. This is gonna be gold.
snowboard nerds rejoice, what a good video. baldface is a mad bucket list item 🤙🏽
Best episode yet. I was at Baldface about 10 years ago for one of the VST gatherings. Jeff was the kindest and most fun guy ever. I wish I wasn't so shy around him during my stay but the chats we had about shred history were chats I will never forget and nerding out on board tech with him was all time. He was such an open and honest dude. He made us all feel so welcomed.
Jeff, people like you are rare in this world. You are a gem of a human.
some real quality banter here! Would love to see these two head to head race at the ymir wiggle this year
My 1987 burton 165 cruiser was responsible for the best runs of my life in deep powder.
Great episode!! I still ride my 2012 Burton fish w/camber all over the mountain especially powder. So much fun! Stoked to see how my new mind expander compares 🤯
same here. GoldFish FTW
I have a year 1 Orca and it has been all around the best board I have ever ridden. It has it's downfalls as an every day rider, but I love it and will continue to buy them.
Another banger ep guys. I get a sore neck from nodding in agreement, but I love listening to riders from my era and age group.
Great history lesson
I love all your posts 😊 I'm from the uk 61 years old and been snowboarding since day one. But I learn so much from your posts 😊 keep up the good work 👏
could listen to this all day
I picked up a 2008 Malolo 166 last week. Top sheet perfect, getting it sharpened and waxed this week.
I have a feeling this is gonna be my go to board!
What a rad chat. Really enjoyed that gents. Baldface lodge is on my bucket list...not sure I'm alone with that one.....
You guys are awesome! Started riding 5 years ago with my kids (I’m 45). I have a gray beard like you guys. Good to now I have many more years of riding! Love your informative content!
@@ifyourenotsure2263 thanks for the support !
love these vids thanks boys 🤙
Really enjoying this convo style vid gents
Another fantastic episode gents! Loved the whole episode, the history to the boards of now. I have to say I'm quite jealous of the long boards back then, would love a 180. That Airwalk boot sounds rad, haha! Could listen to you two chat snowboards for a long time. Thanks for the mention, I'm on Cardiff because of Jeff! Loved Jeff and his classic humour, was waiting for the ole Banked Country to be talked about!
@@michaelwigley5298 cheers wiggles !!
I bought a Burton Malolo 166 for a trip to Japan back in 2007/8... and it's still my go-to pow board... awesome to ride...!! Great episode and as an "old guy" myself, I love the "back in the day" chat... (I started boarding in 1997..!!😎)
@@neildonald4292 thanks for the support !
I'm getting ready for snowboarding 🏂 glad tribute lounge is around. With full of awesome lessons on snowboarding and rad gears. Hopefully y'all get more tribute hoodie 🙏
Love this. Thank you Tribute and Jeff! Next guest: jG?
We hope to catch him this season!
JG you've been summoned to the lounge
@@bee_marshall fingers crossed !
Bigger nose with spoon tech, or a 3D shape, lots of taper, set back/surf camber, and a swallow tail/moon tail. Mid flexing. Those are my favorite types of powder boards.
I’ll never go back to a 2D shaped board. 3D made me a better, harder charging rider.
@@SteveThompson-li2fcwhich one are you on?
@@je5406 Bataleon Camel 2.
Jones Mind Expander ...flat to rocker 2020.2021,2022 100% Rajadat Gauranteeed YESSSSSAHHHH!!!!!!! Cheers Snowboarders !!!!!!From North Idaho ----- Schweitzer Mt. !!!!!
Was riding a 97' BMC the last two seasons, 68 I believe. It was soooo good for the steep and deep. I know they're novelty but I'd love some classic old shaped boards, with that super stiff, big camber setup. Awesoome ep guys!
First "Pow" board I ever had was a 165 Burton Barracuda and it blew my mind how effortless riding pow is on the right board. Leg burn completely goes away.
Still got my 2012 'cuda 161. Gets a few days every season. Adore it still.
I sold mine and regret it. Kept my Malolo though!
@@therealchickentender Ive still got my 161 Barracuda, slays it in Japan. More fun on groomers than my 2009 160 fish Ltd.
Been trying to get a Baldface spot for years -- do have 2 days at Valhalla in March.
I'm still in deep, deep (pun intended) love with my Burton Barracuda, the first one.
Doesn't get much riding really but I adore it every deep day. Changed my life back then.
Will ride it till breaks. Might be never.
Sounds like the answer is the process ❤
Hovercraft and Gentem stick are amazing powder boards that didn't get mentioned
For Sure - we focused on what Baldface has most often used here
I gotta get to Baldface one of these years before I am too old.
I have one of that same Charlie Slasher still in good shape that I take out every now and then.
Great episode! Picked the rt man for the job picking out pow boards🙌
Love me some riders lounge chat time.Late 90s into the 2000s I was riding a 175 Winterstick Severe Terrain and then a 170 Burton Frontier and a 170 Burton Cascade split board which covered my trips to Chamonix and Gulmarg.The Severe Terrain changed my whole approach to riding.Currently on a 165 Yes PYL
@@seanburke7967 Cascades were also a very special model ! Thanks for the support !
@@tributeboardshop Seeing those original Burton split bindings gave me PTSD recalling non existent edge hold and frozen up transitions at the top.
My Ride Berzerker is amazing, shape reminds me of that banked county. its a little narrow but I'm size 10 it works good. iride 156 140 pounds. I'm from the east cost and ride up and down the whole area.and it does good on ice,and love taking it to Utah. Awesome board for Snowbird. I even throw it around on rails.
I have an original 2006 Malolo 158 which I picked up a few years ago but haven't ridden it. Thinking of taking to Hokkaido. Either that or my Archetype, can't decide!
@@FATFORKS that malolo is a very special board 🙌
@@tributeboardshop Ridden by Terje in "First Descent" 😎
Rad-Air is still making a 201, and they did a collab with Winterstick last year on a 191 that is absolutely gorgeous.
Guessing Jeff was referring to the Airwalk “Halfpipe” boot with a neoprene liner; literally the support of a slipper with the drink ability of a removable beer koozie. Wish I still had mine.
Wicked! Banked Country rules!
A have the orca 2023-2024, awesome board for all mountain, excellent in powder, not too quick edge to edge tho
Just bought a 23/24 orca a month ago. Too pumped to give it a try
@@AcExMBar get a stomp pad !
@@KhalGio yea I have to haha, covering up the top sheet graphic is gonna be hard tho 😭
@@AcExMBarI recommend putting the front binding all the way forward on non powder days. It really changed it’s turning ability for me.
@@craiggibbons3268 ok noted thank you 🙏🏻
RAD AIR MENTIONED
WHAT THE FUCK IS A REGULAR SIZED BOARD WHOOOOOOO
When talking about pow surfers Jeff mentions using verts. Does anyone know how well they work in deep snow ? And are they just for going uphill or can you use them walking through flat sections of terrain too ?
Thanks !
@@307beez they work quite well , crazy deep pow can be a bit tricky as these are not large but for the most part these are the perferred tools !
@@tributeboardshop thanks so much ! 👊🏻
Boards were only cut down for one season 1992-93. Midway through that season Burton dropped the blacktop twin, and all the other companies followed the next season.
I need the boldface falcors
How about Powgoda vs. Bonsai? Best Cardiff board? Best Korua Board?
Powgoda!
Undertaker198, winterstick. Apo swallowtail. Then add some modern boards: virus. Gentemstick, Pogo.
Soupkitchin for life.
Had malolo and a fish ltd,,,,S tier decks
East Coast needs the best hard packed boards of 2025
We plan a " carving top 5" ...that should help!
Pics of the red Toyota please.
When is Baldface gonna do a powsurf week?
The banked country fucking RIPS
What's Jeff's height,weight and boot size? I've wanted to try a banked country for years but at 5'9", 155lbs and a 9 boot I wasnt sure whether to go 155 or 159 for an all-mountain freeride deck.
@@joshuasills jeff is a round 5’7 , 180lbs, size 8.5 foot
159, Josh!!
No brainer!
Considering that you bought a Cheater, I can only assume that you're not afraid of some length, and for a non freestyle approach at 5'9" I'd go 159 regardless.
Enjoy the ride! :-) 🙌
Love this stuff. 1988 the owner of the skate shop I worked at in New Westminster came back from the ski show in Vegas with 2 Sims snowboards and handed them to us and said have fun kids. Been riding ever since. At my magical height of 5'6" I rode a 172" K2 eldorado in the 90's at Whistler for yrs and man the looks I got with that huge board lol.
That's so funny, when they were talking about how long pow boards were back in the 90s I immediately thought, "were they really that big? How long was the El Dorado?" I loved that board!
@@rgarewal100i has a 172"
1996 Burton Supermodel in 173 and 181
I had a '98. Think it might've been a 164. Replaced my Asym Air. Instantly a better rider. Such are great board for the era.
I have a Supermodel 181 owned since 2003. Fast at 114.3kph. No back leg burn. Awesome board. Just bought a 2024 Jones Ultra Mind Expander 158. Can't wait to see how new tech is 😅
My Lib BRD wide 162 is a Fucking paint brush.
Wish i kept mine. That thing is a gem
@@GEB-yy3ud 100% !
Lol the best powder boards of all time.... that you sell at your shop
No love for the Hovercraft??
@@jasonfenton7366 we LOvE that model ! Just wasnt in the baldface fleet !
The first one to comment🥳
Kudos from Munich
I noticed you always speak about what size board you ride but I don’t know how much do you weigh… anyway you’re videos are sick
@@urizekbach2058 shane is 155lbs ! 👊 thanks for the support !
What no og mind expander
@@marcosperez2755 thats a cery important one , just wasnt in the baldface fleet !
Hot Take: these “tapered” shapes 4-8ish mm (does nothing)are the new reverse camber, total psychological marketing gimmick. Get a true swallow tail or ride a directional twin with some authority and take lessons😂
Rad
My two favourites right there. You guys are gold. If you have never been, save your shekels and get there. You will not regret it. The best place run by amazing people!🫶