Face plate clamps! Let's make 'em!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- This episode on Blondihacks, I’m making clamps for the face plate! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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Always good to revisit safety topics, thanks for that.
A little trick from the world of woodworking (ahem) where we often need to break stock into four lengths - find the center and make that cut, splitting the kerf with the scribed line . Then find the center of either piece and mark both using a square, which saves a measurement. The second cut has now automatically been shifted by half a kerf width, and all four pieces will be very close to the maximal length. Woodworking can be about precision and efficiency, too (grin).
Don't know if anyone mentioned the idea already, but if you drill every second hole and then go back and drill the ones in between, the bit will have an equal lack of resistance on each side and won't have so much of a tendency to deflect. I've been able to overlap holes pretty dramatically this way on an even smaller mill than yours :p
Very well done, Quinn. I'm sure you will get a lot of use from those clamps, and they certainly look much safer than the ones with a 'stairstep' engagement.
I love the consistent chirping at woodworkers
Woodworkers really do get chirping from both ends don't they, from machinists and then also from birds because they turned their house into a chair.
Quinn, you do such a good job with your voice over explanations. Just wanted to drop a kind word, keep up the good work👍
one of the best channels on youtube.
eloquent audio, flashing lights warnings, educational (even if I'm not skilled enough to follow it *yet), and the spirit of creativity.
Whenever I finally get access to a mill and lathe, I'm going to be very well prepared because of your channel! I've watched every one of your videos, and I really appreciate your approach to safety and risk management. It fits well with mine. Thanks so much!
I had a uni course with a practical component about machine tools (lathe and mill work, manual and cnc) and these videos really did prepare me more than I would’ve thought!
Remember kids: Don‘t do things you don‘t want to explain to the paramedics!
If I didn't I'd never get to see them at all. With the exception of one 'heart-attack' (indigestion) every trip I've made in an ambulance or to A&E can be summarised in one word... "Idiot".
Where was this advice 6 broken bones ago!? 😭😂
Best safety line I've heard in a while.
Lol
As a Paramedic, believe me we’ve heard it nothing surprises Paramedics. The more unlikely something is the more likely it is to happen. 😈
When I use this type of clamps I usually screw the bolt from the opposite side. The head of the bolt will do less damage to the fixture plate. Nice work, as always!
My brother recommended this channel to me, and it's rapidly become my favorite machining channel on TH-cam. I make both modern and medieval bagpipes along with other wind instruments, primarily through prototyping with 3D printing and then having them fabricated by someone else in their final form, but I'm working on actually setting up a basic machine shop. The precision and clarity with which you describe your thought process makes it straightforward to apply what I learn in these videos to other engineering challenges! Great content, up there with Big Clive and My Mechanics!
Made my clamp set in the last half of the last century when I was an apprentice glad to see you helping newbies along with great tools to have in their shop. I have put a small dab of brazing rod on my reaction screws or use brass flat head screws for that purpose it keeps from marring the faceplate or angle plate I am working with.
Gosh, first Tony and now Blondihacks!? I just have to tell my kids to take care of themselves tonight.
you know Tony too?? me too!!
Quinn is on a weekly video schedule though, Tony comes and goes as he wants or his non youtube life allows. Both are awsome though
And a Ron Covell too
@@tlange5091 I know, both are great and since the planets aligned here, my kids are sad
@@VincentGroenewold maybe its time for them to get educated in machining?
Thanks for the clamp idea. I am sure they will be very handy in the machine shop Cheers.
I made some teensy versions, because, well, I do teensy. One useful mod I found was using a really long (45 mm) hex grubscrew/setscrew for the rear screw and making a captive (but loose and floppy) copper foot for the screw. I used some offcuts of Tellurium Copper 10mm bar lightly staked in place around a ground sort-of-ball on the end of the grubscrew. That means I can still remove the screw if I need a really long or short one, but doesn't mar up the surface of my faceplate (or the aluminium fixture plate on my rotary table). I'm totally inspired to make some GIANT versions like yours now!
Blondie- you never cease to amaze me -- you are a true craftsman / machinist
Great video as always
Larry
If your amazement seizes, try lubricating it more ;) I'm not a native speaker, too .. but "cease" is the word you were looking for.
I share your opinion, though.
@@VintageTechFan Well what do you expect from a 55 year experience
mechanic/welder. LOL
It’s a pleasure listening to your voice explaining all those steps. Thanks 🤩
GASP!!!! you put stuff in the vise without a Tappy Tap Tap Tap. Who are you and what have you done with or beloved Quinn???
Those turned out nice!
Wait...those milled out nice!
Oh, nevermind.
And excellent pinkie wrangling.
Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
"In the time I spent trying different methods I could have filed them twice"
Oof.....I felt that one in my soul 😂 we've all been there!
But that time when you found a way to do exactly what you wanted without resorting to filing it feels so good it doesn't matter that it took more than twice as long.
Or its close cousin "I could have bought one, but I made one myself, instead. Of course, it turns out I was paying myself a dollar an hour..."
Man ... you are so well spoken and really to the point .... just wow idk why you haven't taken up an teaching position but then again ....yhea ... foot in mouth disease you are an teacher and I love it man
Nicely done! I was turning solid plastic sphere end caps to fit into a 3 inch stainless steel tube couple decades ago. After grinding a curve into a high speed steel blank I started making plastic ribbons. Finished a couple and was cutting away when the cutter grabbed the part, split it in half and then threw it like a baseball into my nose....luckily only a bloody nose and bent glasses. Finished the last ones going much slower and smaller cuts with my face well off to the side. Shop owner said he figured the plastic had imperfection in it...I think I was cutting with a pretty dangerously wide tool. Them round corners can get exciting.
I really love that adjustable angle table.
Thanks Quinn for another Great Video. They turned out really nice.👍❤️
Great video Quinn! I learned so much from this. All these pro tips like working the DRO and zeroing and finding centers... perfect.
Another excellent job completed! Love it.
Nice clamps Quinn, you’ll find them to be very useful in the future and you’ll be glad you made them.
Great set of clamps mate. Well done. SAFETY IS No 1 👍🇦🇺
I like hot bluing, either in an old oven, or the old torch and used motor oil. Super black and really seems to protect the metal even when abused.
Great to see a face plate in use. They are mostly way under rated as I think they are very versatile. Very nice clamp too.
I do believe I'll make some of my own; those heel blocks are frustrating at best.
Beautiful work on the clamps.
You need to keep an eye out for a nice little stationary belt sander for doing things like rounding corners. Even a little 1 inch one is very handy and doesn’t take up much room.
Great addition to the shop, very well made, and from a suitable material 👌.
Thanks for sharing
We have those at work for mounting injection mould tools in the press if they dont have direct clamping available. The bolt on ours has a very large head on it which presses against the machine platten (so the other way around to how you have your bolt) with a small radius on the end of the head so that the bolt doesn't get bent if you haven't got your clamp exactly parallel. 👍
That vise end-stop is sweet and totally worth having. Off to go buy stuff.
I made that one! Check out my video list for it
@@Blondihacks I will! Thank you.
Wrangler Pinky for the win, haha! I not only get, but love your sense of humor.
Nice job as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Really nice clamps. Thanks for the video. Keep on keeping on.
2:07 Little trick (from AvE), throw a magnet in the jar. I have a magnet in my jar for years now!
Congrats on more patrons! I no longer share screen time with Sprocket. ;)
Oh, and cool clamps! Nice work, Quinn!
Cool clamps, thanks for sharing.
Nice work Quinn!
I just got one thought about that rotary table... what about this order of operations:
- put a pin the same size as the fillet you want in your center
- clamp some square against the pin and aligned with the table's 0
- remove the pin and clamp your piece against the square
- remove the square and mill that fillet!
- for next parts, ether reclamp the square before unclamping the part (beware of the burrs) or clamp two fences with enough clearance from the corner...
I use a turkey baster to clear chips. It's really handy
Nice project. Well done! Thanks for sharing!
1:01 yes, thank you!!! So many people say centrifugal forces and as someone who minored in physics in college, that is like someone calling them drill bits to a cranky old machinist. XD
Always enjoy your videos. Thank
Each saturday evening (eu) i'm waiting for Your new video - keep doing good job!
I've always bolted my blocks and clamps right thru the faceplate so everything is captured but it takes about 6 hands and I've only got 1 1/2. I end up taking the face plate off to get it set up close and then fine tune it on the lathe. Your wonderful clamps are a big leap ahead and will be a great time saver for me. Thanks.
I watch different lathe channels for different things--with Blondiehacks it's all about methodical explanations of reference features, concentricity, precision measurements, accurate dimensions, and not using the excuse of it being a "hobby" to get sloppy. Thanks!
The clamps, Boss! Can I use the clamps on him? The clamps ...
Everyone is so up tight about clamping. : )
nice work quin
Woohoo! Blondie Hacks!!
Nice video as always, always learn something from you. Also I will say that most traditional tool steels machine beautifully especially compared to mild steel or stainless so I'll often grab a stock of O1 or W2 instead of free machining steels if I can't find them in the right size.
Nice Job, my clamp kit has is awkward to use as the studs are quite long and I often have issues sitting the blocks without them sitting partially on a t-slot. I am going to make a set of these just for holding stuff on the mill. Thank you for the idea. Also looking forward to seeing you complete that engine.
Great freaking intro. Awesome!
I laughed out loud, when you were keeping cutting oil on the bandsaw table, with your pinkie. Been there. Hmm. I see a oil bottle holder project in my future.
If you don't have a DRO, one solution is to mount the endstop, then ,punt the longest piece, do a narrow face cut, swap in the next longest and run the same cut on that and possibly on the next one, too... Until you just cut air. Swap in the longest again, adjust the mill to take a narrow cut on that, and repeat that same cut on the rest. Keep doing it until even the shortest have been faced.
“Clamp, clamp, clamp” clamp humor, nicely done 👏🏼
Great job Quinn. Re the cold blueing, you have obviously no trouble getting great finishes, just something that may help further. I work in a cleanroom and always after acetone we use IPA as acetone leaves very tiny particles, IPA removes these. Maybe give it a try and compare results. Again great work 👏
Big top angle? Thank you for taking us to the circus! Sorry, I'm just clowning around. Will definitely make a set of this style of clamps.
Hey Quinn - I'm with you on having to crank the column up and down to change tooling. I also use the PM-25. I just added one of the Priest Tools power drives to my column and it's made a huge difference in convenience. I have to say that I'd like to see limit switches on each end of the travel, but as long as I pay attention it's fine.
And never ever run it with the locks engaged. I blew the first motor in mine doing that.
@@Blondihacks I'm guessing that nearly everyone does that at some point. I talked to Greg at PT, and he mentioned it several times in the course of the conversation. Easy to miss though when trying to get something done...
What I usually do, after putting stop in, is to loosen vase again, push part in and tighten again. In case there was slight difference between pushing stop against part vs part push against stop.
Love your content!
very nice and tidy job, i do have a suggestion, when I want to do round corners quick , I use a belt sander.
I do love files, but I tend to avoid them like the plague!
You can never have to many clamps Quinn.👍👍
Spoken like a true boatbuilder!!
Nice again Quinn.
The truck with 4140 is if it gets to hot, it gets really hard really quick. Use sharp tools and make sure to put the heat in the chip...
Quinn, about the "I could have filed them all twice" part: whenever you get to a point when you have various methods and tools to make e.g. a rounded corner, you are trying to use them (that's what they are there for!) and forget about the simpler methods. I would have used a compass/circle pattern ruler and my belt sander to make quick work of them - right after I had already tried the rotary table and the rounding mill bit...
Thanks Quinn
Nice job
great episode👍👍👌👌
Awesome job!
I wonder if you had trouble milling the second edge with the round over mill because the cutting force was going into the movable jaw of the vise whereas when cutting the first edge, the force was against the fixed jaw.
When rounding a corner with a file, you can start by cutting a 45° chamfer with a depth that matches the finished radius. This removes the vast majority of the material (more than 80%, if I remember correctly) and can be done on a mill or with a saw on larger parts.
I was thinking about the fixed/movable jaws too. The cutter was probably dull but it would have been worth trying to flip the part to finish that one. Great job Quinn and I always look forward to new content from you.
Nice clamps!
Nice work, I think I went online and ordered the same cold blue the first time I saw you use it.
I'm too lazy to search this out, can I just ask you what it is, instead?
@@theprojectproject01 Brownell’s Oxpho Blue. Open up the links in this video and go down to the last grouping. It's the third one down. If you order it through the link, I think Quinn get's a little referral fee.
@@TandaMadison Thank you very much! I myself have had spotty, ha, results with it; i'll have to step up my cleaning game, and try multiple applications.
Much obliged.
Lovely lil’ useful bits. I like those useful things to squirrel away!
I know that your place is limited, and that mostly you are working on steamcasts (like podcasts for steampunks? ;) but it seems to me that sometime soon it’s time for you to build Jer Schmidt’s multi-adjustable belt sander perhaps? :)
Have a great weekend!
I might trust those sawtooth clamps, but I'd trust them from great distance behind plenty of shielding material.
Thanks!
Thank you for the metric numbers
How to get 1/4th of this stock: Step One, start by having 1/4hs of the stock.
... Thanks Blondie, never change :)
Thanks Blondy
You can flip the heel screws upside down so you adjust them with your fingers and it adds some height. Clamp as normal.
I have gotten many tips from you so here’s a Tip for you, drop in a magnet in the cup of cutting fluid.
A super magnet in the bottom of your cutting fluid jar will keep it in place.
U can get away with a lot more overlap in chain drilling if you make a steel stencil with only one hole and clamp it on top of your workpiece. it will stabilize the drill and keep it from wandering if the hole is not extremly deep
Very nice. Thanks
Nice!
What kind of center drill are you using? Carbide? Cobalt steel? At least three carbide center drills have broken on me, with the small "nose" snapping off regardless of feed speed, force, etc.
First off, before anything else, let me give you some long overdue praise for such a great channel. I have to admit I was a little weirded out by the greeting the first time I saw it, but now I have to say it has grown on me and I would miss it were it not included. Well done, I always enjoy learning something new, and especially something new about myself. And although it has been said so many times before it would be remiss were I not to also tell you what a great channel you have here. I first came across it while looking for information about a band saw I was having trouble setting up and I've just enjoyed video after video. Highest praise for what you are doing. Really. Quick question: What is the angle table you are using in this video? I need one badly. Thanks again!
Safety wire reduces the negative outcomes of bad things when they happen. Just before it turns things into a modern version of the flail...but hey, that is all part of the process.
Penetrol works great for sealing blued
steel, or raw steel for that matter
Next time you run your corner rounding endmill flip the part around so the forces are against the solid jaw just like your first cut. Your moving jaw might need a bit more tension with the (possibly double) set screw above the handle.
Would the small clamp be a good candidate for hot blueing?
Why do i have the urge to watch Futurama
if you skip holes you can go back and the overlap should be the same on both sides.
I thought a filet was an internal radius? What do I know…… nufffin!
Great work, as usual. Anyone know the brand/model of that angle table?
I TRULY LOVE YOUR VIDEOS ,,,, HAVE YOU EVER MADE HANDLES FOR ANYTHING WOULD LOVE TO SEE BUT THANKS FOR YOUR TIME !!!!!!!!
Just a quick question/curiosity. Why would you not put the end stop on the front jaw of the vise to make it a little easier to clamp in place? You are machining all the same width of parts and essentially the same part.