Straight up though. Most stories whether for children or adults treat permanently "adjusting" someone's personality like this as the demonic act it is. But apparently it's just okay in this verse. It's not even played as a gag it feels like it's supposed to be some kind of righteous comeuppance or something. Which makes it even creepier.
@@kieranadamson3224 The Chicken Little universe is just evil bro. It's apparently ok for Buck Cluck (one of the worst fathers in fiction) and the other adults to treat his son like trash, but another kid joining in on it was just a step too far 💀
@@meth_raccoon yeah, that was the weirdest part. The rest of the town INCLUDING CL'S DAD face no consequences and show no remorse for their actions. Meanwhile the bully character gets a fate worse than death. I mean yes she was an utter bitch at the start but she's what? 11 maybe 12 at the biggest stretch she's 14. She's a kid. A kid who's being mean and has some personality flaws though it certainly doesn't help that the stuff she does is treated as normal by every single adult around. Then we're supposed to just accept a child getting mind broken at the end.
Well even in the movie there are characters who should have a worse ending than they have. For example the Chiken Little father was neglectfull towards him and no face any consequence rather than "my son was rigth all this time and i dont believe him". He was an adult with full capacities
Love how pre-brain scrambling Foxy is drawn to look like the Final Girl in a horror movie, while her counterpart looks like a creepy doll and how Runt looks like a horror movie monster. Like, a legitimately terrifying monster and not a cheesy underbudgeted puppet.
Yeah. That makes sense. Considering he wanted her to be a pretty, perfect doll to love. The way he's drawn also makes him seem imposing/menacing. Like he's trapping her
@@lonemew3503but he is not, another comment points out that Runt probably doesn't understand the implications of Loxy's lobotomy and just enjoys that she is no longer a bully (still, very messed up)
He doesn’t seem like a monster in the sense of like Dracula, but in the sense of a predator who takes advantage of someone for their own gratification.
@@Partyboxd correct me if I'm wrong, "bestie", but they kissed during or after the movie scene, which probably has a long Time gap after the invasion, and still, I am yet to ser someone argumenting how that changes the fact that Runt had no malice behind his actions, as wrong as they were
@@uriellando1104 they just got beaten by these townsfolk and had caused them so much trouble so I honestly wouldn't blame them to want to just leave them to their earthly affairs 😭
Another thing i would like to add is, does Foxy's parents approve of what happened? Do they even care? Do they even care of the fact that some fat pig stopped the Aliens from bringing her back to normal so he can keep her as a brainwashed GF for himself? This town is messed up AF!!!
@@silentecho92able i theorize the parents wouldn't care at all, else they'd try and stop her from all the bullying or at least find some probable cause for such behaviors.
According to the official lore Foxy herself refused to be turned back, and was intended to be a plot point for a canceled sequel where she wants to stay her new self but others keep pressuring her to go back to how she was
Fr, even before I understood how truly messed up it was what happened to her, I was confused about why the aliens just let Runt stop them from turning her back as if he had any right to decide that!
I feel like Foxy Loxy's overly fucked up fate was probably Disney "compensating" for the fact that the character won in the original Chicken Little. Foxy was all about mind games, so they decided mind break would be a fitting punishment. The problem is they forgot that that version of the character was a straight up manipulative sadist who led to the deaths of 99% of the cast whereas this version's only crime was being an annoying bully.
i actually kinda liked foxy loxy as a kid so when the end rolled around, i assumed they would give her a mini redemption arc where she starts trying to be nicer but still got to be a tomboy. imagine my horror when they fucking lobotomized her into a hyperfeminine girly girl and everyone was like "shes better this way actually :D" like HUH????
During the song in the credits, she’s singing a duet with Runt and at some point she makes a forced smile and directly stares at the camera, while she sings about something that her old self would never say. As if it wasn’t messed up enough.
@@ericlarrieu-let5757 I would rather die than be forced to stay that way because some guy said "she's perfect". Really creepy that she was left that way when we know she would never consent to dating him of her own free will. She is esentially permanently drugged. The rest of the town changes, becoming better and kinder. She wasn't even given the chance, let alone a choice.
@@oakenshadow6763 Look, the runtime was almost over and we needed to deal with this secondary antagonist in under a minute, what were we supposed to do? Showing her reluctantly thanking Chichen Little for saving her and then add a couple seconds of her being less mean to the other kids in the epilogue? Ridiculous!
Just rewatched Chicken Little because of this. The morning of the baseball game, Foxy Loxy got up figuring she'd easily win the pennant. It's completely understandable she'd be crushed when Chicken Little swept in to get it last minute out of a fluke. A moment that stuck out to me was when Chicken Little tries warning the town about the aliens; Loxy honestly shows genuine concern to Mr. Cluck. He was the big star athlete before her, so she might look up to him and share in his disappointment in his son. Maybe bullying was her childish tomboy way of trying to 'toughen him up?' We'll never know, now. 'She's perfect.'
Foxy definitely deserves the praise because she carried the team to the finals. No one wanted Chicken Little to bat, but it was on the sheet and they didn't have much of a choice. Interesting theory that she picked on Chicken Little because he wasn't living up to his dads name. Though she did pick on him and his friends. Yet now "She's perfect" Has such dark undertones.
@@chrimsonphantom Now i want to see some sort of story or comic that explores this idea, like how everything went down from her perspective, like how she met the goose girl, her passion for sports (in a discarded script, it was going to be shown that she was very talented, winning several sport championships), like how she admired many athletes, the acorn incident and when she started going after Chicken Little and his friends, all the way to the championship and the alien invasion, the ending would be very dark considering how all of that is either repressed or gone since "She's perfect" now
@@andreacastillo5030 Thinking about it. We have Cruella and Maleficent movies, that were made to make classic Disney villains sympathetic. Yet the way we're describing Foxy from chicken little. I am far more interesting in seeing a comic or short animated movie about her. Rather than Cruella and Maleficent. Probably because she wasn't that bad in comparison to everyone else. Making us sympathize with an antagonist that really wasn't evil to begin with is much more interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing that and maybe even have a comic with Foxy and Foxy talking with each other inside her mind trying to regain control.
Someone should totally write a physiological horror fanfiction where Loxy begins to realize that her whole previous identity was erased from existence and she begins to break down as she realizes that the whole town is okay with it. Then at the end she is able to escape and reclaim some of who she was
And in the end just as she's about to escape or restore herself she hears one word "perfect" and the reprogramming reasserts itself. And Runt realizes it's a trigger word.
This was my top ten pick for animated villains who didn't deserved what they got. It is borderline disturbing to have your mind broken and stay broken because some guy likes you that way. To quote nostalgia critic. "The daughter the parents knew and loved is DEAD."
@@lumpy-ve8ceWhy would we assume they didn’t? And even if a parent dislikes certain aspects of their children like they’d prefer they’d not be a bully, I’m certain they would’ve preferred talking it out and having her learn from her mistakes naturally rather than have her LOBOTOMIZED into an entirely separate person, with the only beings capable of fixing her unable to be contacted
@@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 This isn't the first time I got a comment like this on this video. Really don't know where the assumptions Foxy wasn't loved by her parents are coming from. (check out my other comment someone said that her parents were worse than Buck.) She was a star player for the baseball team, and she brought the town to the championships. Where Chicken Little play kinda took some of the glory from her. As they will remember how Chicken Little hit the homerun. We don't really see most of the families in the film. Not even Runt of the litter, which implies he has siblings.
@@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 I WAS gonna write ''jk I am sure at least one of the parents loved her considering they allowed her to join the baseball club'' but I had to leave my room so I left it half complete in hopes to quickly edit it in. But then I forgot about it entirely and it was at the back of my mind all day while I was at school (Highscool specificly) as I was dying from embaressment.
@@lumpy-ve8ce Lol Considering she was not only a baseball player, but THE star baseball player whose efforts brought her team to the finals until her victory was unceremoniously stolen by Chicken Little who did exactly one Home Run, I’d say Foxy Loxy was probably pretty loved
The pig is called Runt I believe. And I agree with some of the other comments that it is probably the handle to her umbrella meant to resemble a shackle in its current position
@@mariotron8718 i’d say be happy. The whole reason why people take kids stuff and make grimdarks is because taking something happy and putting it in a setting where it doesn’t belong makes the story feel more realistic to what is real. We never feel like we belong in a creepy setting, so why make a story where the characters seem that way?
Considering this ending scene, the horrible parenting from Chicken Little's dad, and the actions of the townspeople in general, it seems like this town is just full of sociopaths and jerks, even the supposed "good guys".
@@jacobcox4565 which, debatably made sense given this towns tendency for mass chaos and destruction at the drop of a hat. "Oh no! My child's gone missing when some earthlings broke into my ship! These earthlings nearly destroy their town anytime anything happens! They require the upmost force to handle!" There's a train of logic here. Just a weird train of logic.
I found that ending for her HORRIFYING as a kid. Im a tom boy, always have been, and say that as a terrable thing to do to her. Thank you for also seeing it.
Fr. It kind of came off like the creators were saying that it would be better if you were just submissive and feminine instead of a tomboy. I am not sure if that was intended, but that is what it felt like to me 😞
I am not sure if you were actually wondering but the context is that when she was taken in and taken out of the alien space ship, her brain was scrambled. The alien was going to put her mind back to normal, but runt (pig) found her attractive that way so they kept her brain scrambled for him.
@@brodietabernacki2026 going off of my memory of the movie; I think for some reason she was traumatized and regressing to a childlike state when she was in the ship Seeing as she was the only one to change it could be concluded that the trauma and childlike regression is what caused the scrambled mind when she was transported back to earth
Even as a kid I knew this was messed up. They basically said her brain was scrambled. Instead of fixing her however which seemed easy to do they just kept her that way. Either her original personality is trapped in her mind somewhere or it's just gone which means they basically killed and replaced her.
It was fixable. Just that Runt of the Little thought she was perfect the way she is now. An entire concept of the original personality trying to get out would make for an interesting comic or short.
@@ShadowDemon_4 straight up labotamized the kid. So messed up. Especially as she was scared to instantly sucking her thumb in the voice after being kidnapped.
I can already imagine it now... Some critter, maybe you the player, is a newcomer with your parents to Oakey Oaks after the aliens incident and after a movie was made about it. It would be a cute comfy slice-of-life sandbox game. Make your character go to schools, make friends, get side quests, have a look around the town, customize your character and your bedroom as you like, get small tasks to earn money, and have the option to watch some events. It's all comfy and cute until the main story event starts to take hold and your character slowly takes notice that something is wrong with the town. Especially if your character has befriended Foxy Loxy. Or when the more you talk to the other residents of the town, the more you take note of how the notorious hero, Chicken Little, was ridiculous by almost everyone before the truth that aliens are real is exposed even though he was just a little kid who they should've at least be a concern if he were just sputtering nonsense but instead decides to publicly humiliate him, how his father treated him until he achieved something...And also, the movie they made about him and his friends was just so wrong.
Imagine: You’re a having a perfectly normal day but then you can’t move. Your body continues to move, *but that’s not you.* You try to scream, to move, to ask for help, but you can’t even cry. You’re a prisoner in your own mind, forced to watch as this false you takes your place. Eventually, they find a way to turn you back and you feel a rush of joy. You can be you again! But, no, the kid you bullied traps you in the shell for the rest of your life. Why did you taunt him? You fade away as “your” new personality becomes permanent, and the real you dies.
I think she does return to normal (somehow lol) in a storyboard of the scrapped sequel right before Disney axed the direct to video movie plans they had :/
@@the_pumpking_ Nah, she’d stay like her now sweet self, however, she does keep some of her old personalities traits. So her old self isn’t fully gone. Mostly replaced with the sweet personality, yes.
In the alien defense, they sure tought that kind of stuff was normal in our planet. The Town people by the other hand should have said something about it.
Even as a kid, her ending always disturbed me. She wasn’t nice, but that doesn’t justify what happened to her. I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt bad for Foxy Loxy.
@@LordPanda9259 yah. She was just a kid. She could still grow up and be better if her environment got better and she got help. And the town DID get better! So she got labotamized as a child for nothing.
@@scholartheterminator94 it's not really woke it's more that it's looking more into something that the writers never intended to be. And while that can lead to really stupid assumptions, here it's not like the film has anything else to chew on so why not?
"You can't ask me to disappear just because you like some other guy better. Aren't I entitled to a little dignity?" -The real Seymour Skinner, who at least got to remain himself.
I have a horror game concept for this. Chapter 1 You play as Foxy Loxy during the entirety of the game, and in Chapter 1, your taking a walk with your boyfriend Runt. Runt and Foxy Loxy are deciding on which activities to do today. They both decide: Take a walk in the park during the day, have a picnic in the afternoon, and watch a movie at the theatre at night. Before doing those activities, you'll get the chance to talk to a couple of the town members. Depending on what time it is (via current activites you've done), the town member's dialogues will be different. Eventually when you get to the theatre, Foxy falls asleep mid-movie and the chapter ends. Before this, you get the chance to do some side quests that you can't do later in the chapters, and these quests will determine the ending you get. Chapter 2 Foxy wakes up and everyone has left the theatre. The movie is over, and Foxy feels embarrassed. She leaves, and soon realizes that everyone in the town has vanished. Everything is dark, the town looks like it's slowly crumbling. She walks around a bit and finds Runt, but Runt has also changed. He's huge and tall, with sharp claws and huge sharp teeth. His clothes are torn, he almost looks like a demon. Foxy gets scared, and runs into a house, barricading the door until Runt leaves. After Runt leaves, Foxy starts to break down, confused as to what is happening, when suddenly she hears a voice. It's Goosey Loosey, calling to her. She reveals that the place Foxy is in is the back of her mind, where her memories are stored. She explains that Foxy's entire personality was wiped from existance, and if she wants to return back to normal, she has to find her memory pieces that were shattered. Goosey says that you can hide behind crumbling structures or alleyways to avoid Runt. Runt is the only enemy you have to face, btw. Chapter 3 After finding all the shards, the town is falling apart. The buildings have many cracks in them, so does the floor. Every house looks like it's about to fall over, the School is in terrible condition with all the windows broken, etc. The sky is pure white, and parts of the sky are falling. There is a timer now, and as the timer is ticking down, this plays. You have 4 minutes to escape, and Foxy will return to her normal self. Abilities and Endings cuz I'm starting to get lazy ;-; Abilities: Foxy can glide in the air with her parasol for a couple seconds, and is also capable of a double jump. If you click the sprint button twist, she'll dash. Endings: Moral Ending - Foxy escapes from her mind and has returned to who she was. She swears to all the townsfolk that she will never bully again, and later dumps Runt and becomes a better person, staying her true tomboy self. Requirements: All memory pieces obtained, no side quests completed. Half and Half Ending - Foxy regains a bit of who she was, but still stays with Runt, and bullies whoever approaches them. She completely forgot about Goosey, her main focus only being Runt but still gets to be a tomboy. Requirements: Only a few memory pieces obtained, only a few side quests completed. Lost Ending - Foxy escapes, but she's still in the same state she was before. She'll never get another chance to redeem herself. Requirements: No memory pieces obtained, all side quests completed. Tragedy Ending - Foxy didn't escape her mind in time, and dies. Requirements: Let the timer run out on Chapter 3. Shattering Reality Ending - Foxy escapes and realizes how horrible of a town this is. She dumps Runt and flees the town with Goosey. I imagined this in a 2D style, but if anyone takes this concept and makes it into a horror game, you can change anything ya want about it! I don't remember alot about Chicken Little so ye :3
@@angelicrose-gold6735 Oh shoot, good question, I forgot to explain how to get it xd To get the ending, you have to complete all the side quests, get all the memories, and escape Foxy's mind. But a hidden memory or side quest sounds like a cool idea, could be used for a secret ending.
What happened to Foxy is so disturbing. This was a perfect opportunity for her to realize bullying is wrong and she needs to stop. Instead, her brain got scrambled on accident and Runt told the aliens to not change her back :(
Disney Honestly Unintentionally Created One Of The Most Disturbing Fates That's Even Worse Then What Usually Happens To Cartoon Antagonists The Fact Foxy Loxy Is Presumably Stuck In This Rewired Personality Permanently Until She Dies Is Even More Horrific!
Even as a kid not fully comprehending the depth if how fucked her fate is i never felt right with what happens to her. Sure she's a standard bully and jerk in the beginning, but then it shows how it's her efforts that get the town baseball team into the final game. Her hard work and efforts all season, and in a single play have ALL CREDIT AND RECOGNITION FORGOTTEN. Yes it's supposed to be a feel good scene for the protagonist, but all he did was succeed once at the last step of thw finish line and he gets ALL the credit for the team getting the cup. Foxy is literally left forgotten in the back of the scene. And then an out of the blue alien invasion she had no part in bringing about shows up, she trys fighting it, stupid but still brave, and then gets labotomised and left at the mercy of those she used to bully.
@@stopmotiongarage220 THIS! A clear case of a kid with people pleasing tendencies being pushed and pushed to perform, and forgotten and tossed aside the moment she failed or was surpassed! She needed help, she is just a kid. The town improved, thus improving her environment and influences, but she lost even the chance to change. Instead, she lost even more of who she was to "please others" again.
I was never really the most… smart kid, so only now am i realizing how HORRIBLE in concept her fate is. In a piece of media with characters that had any shred of human decency towards each other, this would be seen as a major tragedy. But no. Not here. God is dead in the chicken little universe.
Likely because the movie itself didn’t portray this as a bad thing, they actually portrayed this as a GOOD thing in fact. I believe they were intending the message of “be kinder to others” but wildly missed the mark There’s all sorts of fates and consequences that happen to villains in animated movies that if you think about the logistics of for a few seconds, they absolutely didn’t deserve it
@@TheMAM Because of how they portrayed it. It was "good for her and others!" The creators didn't make it look bad, so kids thought it was good. Well, some. I was freaked out as a tom boy and thought my brain was gunna get messed with, too.
Yep, no matter what, this fate is messed up, no real way to tell if she is actually happy, unlike with someone like GlomGold, form Ducktales He was genuinely happy with being a fisher man, until his memory came back
The movie is close to being a farcical comedy which if it had managed would have probably allowed it to get away with functionally lobotomizing a child. However I don’t think it manages to be the comedy of errors is seemed to want to be. Kind of. So this thing which is clearly not meant to be taken seriously, comes off instead like the deeply disturbing act that it is.
In the words of the Patrick Warburton alien: "That's creepy." Even he knew this was messed up. Like, was it really that hard to instead have a scene where she gives Runt a light punch, and say 'you weren't that bad, Runt', out of respext for how he survived?
Looking back on this movie as someone who was a tomboy and is still more masculine now is honestly so weird. I don't think the intentions behind her character were meant to be this creepy at all, more of the writers just not thinking any deeper into it + a dose of normalized attitudes that really shouldn't be, but jeez man. The way she's presented as being "better" for being feminine is so unnerving
Even when I was a kid, when I saw Runt say "No! She's perfect~" it freaked me out because Foxy COULD have been changed back to normal but HE stopped it for his own romantic conquest. So fucked up that was in the actual movie instead of Foxy having a more typical "bad guy learns a lesson and becomes good" trope
There are so many layers to this. One of them being that Runt probably doesn't know the full, horrific extent to what he asked for. He probably saw what happened the same way the children watching the movie did. "Oh she's nice now! We can be friends." He has no grasp on complex psychological ethics. That doesn't make it okay, obviously. He still took part in what could be permanent mental damage. But I don't think he fully realizes that. Like with every single thing in this movie, the problem stemmed from the adults sitting back and watching the children they claim to care for brutalize each other. They watched foxy torment chicken little. Now they watch runt torment foxy.
Finally, someone who understands, the comments are so focused on saying that Runt is SUCH a terrible person and "Loxy didn't deserve this, she is a kid!" So Is Runt, he wouldn't understand how messed up the lobotomy is
@agustinmora7860 Exactly! Foxy was a bully because she was in an environment where it was allowed and even encouraged. No one stepped in to teach her better. Now Runt is doing something even worse than bullying, not because he's evil, but because no one is going to step in. Fuck this town man
@@jaxonwhite1156 not only that, as far as we see, not even Loxy's family gives a single care about what happened to her daughter, nor do they ask the alien to revert her back to normal even after he offers to fix her brain
@agustinmora7860 God I didn't even think about her family. Very very besy case scenario, they just happened to be outside of the scene. But even that implies that they weren't watching their young daughter during a possibly deadly alien invasion.
@@jaxonwhite1156 and, y'know, I'm pretty sure that there is a noticeable time gap between the end of the invasion and the movie scene, which means that neither the adults or her family cared after seeing her brain being scrambled so bad that even the alien called Runt "creepy"
That image is perfect and what makes this worse, is that she wasn't even that mean to Chicken Little. In comparison to everyone else in the entire town. Like yes she was the typical bully, but the whole town was picking on CL. They made a movie about his mishap, which made it so almost the entire country would've known about it. The things she did was adding a tiny bit of salt to the wound. CL's dad was the lemon coated blade that hurt CL the most.
Ehh I wouldn’t say she was nice or anything to him though. She was clearly a bully and an attention hog (pun not intended)… That said, I don’t think this is a fair fate either. Taking things a bit too far may be?
@@hiddenflare6169 She wasn't the nicest, she was clearly a bully. Yet Chicken Little cared more about trying to get his dad's approval back more than anything in the film. Which was the whole reason why he wanted to do baseball. Yet if she went to apologize for her actions now. It's less, "Hey Chicken Little I'm sorry for how I treated you and your friends. I was a bit of a jerk and after saving the town you guys are pretty cool." and more. "I'm sorry dear Chicken Little I had no Idea about the misfortune I cause you. I ever do apologize let us now carry forth as the bestest of friends. La la la." Can't say its her really apologizing at that point which is dark and unfortunate.
@@chrimsonphantom Ok I kinda see that. Yeah now that I think on it most of the town was being pretty cruel and that could be why she thought it was just. It's not an excuse for her actions, as she always discouraged the boy in a few ways. That said, the biggest issue with her apologies now... Well that's not really her now is it? She's a different person and it's possible she won't recall behaving in such a way (unless she relapse into who she was of course), so it wouldn't be an apology at that point. I think it's good to have a jerk character once in awhile, if she still hated Chicken Little at the end of the movie and didn't get 'this' at the end, it would be more interesting.... Sigh well like a lot of things with this movie, at least this makes talking about it more interesting.
@@hiddenflare6169 She probably won't be able to Recall what she did. Will anyone actually bring it up? The town because she was their baseball all star, her best friend, and her parents. It's weird just leaving her like that. It's good to have a jerk character, and there are plenty of movies and tv shows back then that had them. Yet the punishments usually are suitable to the crime. The closest thing I can compare this to is Biff from back to the future. There were three distinct timelines with Biff. Main: Biff never got the girl but picked on the McFly Family actually needing them more then the McFly's needed Biff. Second: After stepping up to Biff after assaulting his future wife, the McFly family was kind enough to hire Biff to work for them giving him a job while it looks like he was struggling to find work elsewhere without George McFly's help to keep him afloat. How this compares to Foxy is that when things were going bad for Biff and he was punished for his crimes. It's still Biff in the end he just made different choices and that's where he ended up working for the McFly's. It was by that timeline's choice as he was actually super Dependent on George to be happy. Foxy never got to make that choice. You're right this is much more interesting to discuss.
That smile on Loxy gives me goosebumps, it’s like she’s on the brink of screaming and crying, her eyes are maniac and wild- she doesn’t know what’s wrong, but SOMETHING is- it must be- she isn’t crazy, she’s not! Or, is she?
the art is really good, what happened to foxy is something that you don't really process as a kid but when you're older you look back and realize how horrible it was
This flew over my head as a kid, but coming back to it, it's scary how bad the town and their folks are One town panic and they bully a little kid to the point of making a movie on the whole incident. Yeah, it was messed up but did it really warrant that? And the ensuing mass panic and destruction in its wake. Even if there was nothing to worry about that day, there was now in the aftermath Buck Cluck couldn't even be bothered to help his kid or even be supportive when he tries to make amends But Foxy? There's a reason lobotomy is called the worst medical procedure in history, you're not just drilling a hole into someone's head, you're scrambling their whole mind. She was a bully but she didn't deserve what happened to her. She got her team to the finals, she tried to comfort Buck when they thought Chicken had another incident, and when the town was being invaded, she stood up to defend. And...they left her with a complete personality shift and broken mind, just because a guy liked her in this new way. The aliens said they could put her back, but they just left her that way. I can see why they made Runt a pig. Is she even in there anymore? If you look closely, you can see tear tracks in her makeup. Maybe she's still fighting, and scared her body won't cooperate with her
Even the alien that told what happened thought the fact he wanted her as is was scary, literally saying scary before leaving even though THEY were the one's who accidentally scrambled her brains too much
I'm sorry Foxy Loxy. You did not deserve to be lobotomized. When i was a kid, i laughed at you for "getting what you deserve". Now as a man, i cried because now i understand that being stripped of yourself is equal to dead.
Yeah, she was not in a right state of mind, and ended up with the pig character. Putting in a relationship she had no real interest in. But she got what was coming to her so who knows.
@@Ludi_Chris While her bullying got pretty extreme, she was still a kid. She may not have been a great person, but she was essentially lobotomized and her entire personality was changed without her consent. And the only reason they didn't fix it, was because someone she didn't really know was attracted to her and said she was 'perfect' after seeing her completely changed personality for 10 seconds. Proper karma would be having to apologize and make up for her actions, not forcing her to become a different person.
@@Ludi_Chris If your suffering did not make you better, no amount of suffering of bullies will make them better either. A lobotomy violates human rights, not *good people* rights. That said, a wise man once said: As a person part of civil society, I understand that the death penalty is inhumane and an affront on ethics and justice As an ape with anger synapses, EDIT: Also there is something deeply fucked up about seeing masculinity as something that needs to be fixed in order for a person to be good, and that their redemption as a girl means to date a guy she had no previous intrest in. Her assholish behaviour is put on the same wrong as her being masculine and not wanting to date a boy- frankly, it appears to equate masculinity with being an asshole, which is deeply concerning for well, the entire human population.
I do find it kind of ironic that Foxy got dealt with this fate considering Disney’s track record of mean girl characters a few years later & how a lot of them get redeemed. (Pacifica, Sasha, Amity, the antagonist girl from Raya, etc)
A few? Try about 10 years later. Pacifica didn’t go though her redemption arc until season 2 and then this got a lot more common from them…. Though it’s not like Pacifica was their first exactly, like they did have that one Cinderella sequel. But yeah.
I was just playing with my imagination in an "animation" where that happens, she regains consciousness and when trying to escape she is only stopped by a phrase that makes her return to whoever Whatever it may be.
I don't know if you covered her in your other Chicken Little videos, but I always felt so creeped out that Runt actively chose to keep her brain as mush and NO ONE stopped him. Not a single adult told that little incel that he couldn't choose for Foxy whether her brain was scrambled eggs or not.
@@mewo-rz6fghe didn't give Loxy a lobotomy, those were the aliens. And if I'm not wrong, she also bullied Runt, he wasn't thinking about the implications of a lobotomy, he just focused on he fact that she'd no longer bully him
On top of this: The movie had the lesson of never trusting anyone, even your family, because they might turn on you if you say something they don't like.
The song is great, and i like the subtle details that show that the "perfect" version with her isn't happy with herself, like how it looks like shes been crying or how she has what looks like one part of a handcuff on her wrist, showing thats shes trapped the way she is because of Runt
Someone pointed out the cuff on her wrist, which seems to be the handle of the umbrella she was holding. But yeah it does seem to look like it's trapping her
I could see a horror game based around this concept daytime she’s her “perfect self” serving runt at night she wakes up in a cell and has break out while hiding from runt but she can find bats and pans to stun the psychotic piece of pork in the best ending she calls the cops on runt and gets her mind fixed but just in case she sets up some defenses with chicken littles help if he somehow gets out assuming he’s not killed for his crimes
i really like this idea! maybe the night portions, it occurs in her mind as she tries to break free of the 'perfect' personality? and since it's in the mind and not based in reality, it can be a lot more warped and nightmarish? just an idea!
The idea of a Fox (predator) being held captive by a Pig (prey) is actually a very interesting game idea This could be worthy of a Puppet Combo-esque visual style and everything :0
Y qué tal que conforme avanzará el juego se mostrará más y más a profundidad su Lore? Cómo si recordara del presente al pasado y finalmente recordando lo que alguna vez fue realmente?
I saw this movie once when it came out and remember almost nothing from it. EXCEPT THIS! It haunts me how messed up it was they were just like, "yeah! leave her like this! The pig is happy!" So its nice to see it reflected elsewhere and with good music!
@@Nightman221k There’s better ways to deal with bullies than entirely wiping their personality. And it’s not about helping the victim and giving them support, it’s about using it as a good reasoning to hurt and *erase* an individual, because you can break all sorts of ethics if you can find something about your victim that revokes the empathy people would have, because people operate on feeling instead of actual morals and ethics that they are aware of and stick to.
It astounds me that Disney has characters end up having messed up endings like this, but pass it off as okay for the sake of a joke or they didn't think it through. Was Foxy a jerk who deserved consequences for her actions? Yes, but this is disproportionate retribution, especially for a child. By that same Foxy logic, Chicken Little should've allied with the aliens and had his whole town purged at the end for how they treated him. Disney does something similar in their Descendants franchise, the main character Mal makes cookies laced with love potion and gives it to the boyfriend of the 'mean girl' Audrey, he then publicly breaks up with her in front of everyone through song. But when they go swimming he's cured due to magic river, yet stays with Mal and doesn't bother explaining the situation with Audrey, she ends up finding out anyway. Mal is rewarded for her literal crimes, yet Audrey is treated like trash for bringing it up, her crash out later on is justified even if it wasn't executed well.
I forgot that happened in descendants lol, although I do remember the relationship just coming out of nowhere when the potion wore off. Looking back it makes sense why she would be so upset
[Edit: Due to the support this idea received, I went ahead and made a more fleshed-out description for the visual narration along with a full set of lyrics. Due to the size, it's in a google doc, which is now linked in a new comment.] [Edit 2: When I posted the link, the new post was deleted so you'll have to go to a community post on my channel to get the link. By no means am I a content creator. I'm not looking for a lot of subscribers or anything. I just got inspired by this song and thumbnail art and wanted to express myself with other creative minds in this comment section.] [OLD CONTENT BELOW] l V So this is just my take on what you’d see in a music video of this song as well as what the lyrics would involve. The music and the thumbnail really got me thinking so I rushed this out in about an hour and a half. I’m sure there are spots that could be improved but the whole idea of actually addressing the horrific warcrime that was done to Foxy in particular just sounds like a great story in of itself. Considering how terrible everyone is in Chicken Little, and how Foxy’s the only one who gets this terrible treatment, this feels cathartic in actually pointing out how terrifying it would be. By *NO MEANS* am I guilting the creator into using my ideas here or my lyrics if they ever choose to include lyrics in the future. I just got inspired by it all so this is what I got. [0:00-0:17] A classic introductory bit to Foxy Loxy in her post-brain-scramble form, greeting the day as she dances around her house and family members, who are still having trouble adjusting to her peppy, harmless personality. [0:17-0:34] Foxy heads out to the town, greeting people and performing kind little gestures as she goes. She gets to the bus stop to school and once on the bus, everyone is sitting opposite from her except for Runt, who sits next to her (or maybe in front of her while she leans forward to more closer to him given his size). I can basically hear the lyrics with this repeated section specifically. It would go something like… “Per-fect, oh-so happy, no mean bone in my body Per-fect, don’t you worry, you’re safe while alongside me And I’ll ne-ver stop be-ing this way…” [0:35-0:50] Foxy arrives at school where she continues prancing about without a care in the world. She introduces some of the other students, most notably her old cohort, Goosey Loosey, who looks especially distraught and even fearful at Foxy’s behavior Chicken Little, Ugly Duckling, and Fish-out-of-Water get shown, with expressions varying from amused to disturbed. But then comes Runt for last as he slides over to join Foxy. [0:51-1:07] Foxy goes through various school activities alongside Runt with a romantic lens: pushing each other on the swings, eating together at the cafeteria, and throwing paper airplane notes to each other during class. But always in the background is Goosey, still looking horrified. And at the end, Foxy catches sight of a baseball bat in the corner of the baseball field. The lyrics this time around would be… “Per-fect, as they want me, a joyful lo-bot-om-y Per-fect, as they need me, as long as we’re all happy Af-ter all it’s for the grea-ter good…” [1:08-1:32] A flashback plays of the old Foxy Loxy, the beloved school bully who was a star athlete. The lyrics would talk about how terrible old Foxy was for tormenting the outcasts and nerds but occasionally, a lyric or two would slip out how no one seemed to care or condemn her. There’d be lyrics around the 1:25-1:29 mark questioning if “this it’s really fair”. The last couple of notes would bring us back to current Foxy with the lyrics: “But I guess it doesn’t matter.” [1:33-1:49] The narrator changes from Foxy herself to the observing citizens: commenting on her good deeds and pleasant personality. They talk about how she’s much more of a model citizen, showing the town’s best qualities with her selflessness and love. [1:49-2:05] The townsfolk continue narrating as Foxy’s bouncy walk is wilting a bit as she passes various shops. The big, plastic smile is still there but as she sees her reflection in a window, a tear stars crawling down her face. The mayor notices Foxy’s makeup starting to run and waves her over. She skips over with the same plastic smile as he escorts her toward city hall. “Per-fect, is she crying? I think her mood is slipping Per-fect, make-up smearing. May need re-make-up-plying Af-ter all don’t you want to be good…?” [2:06-2:30] This second three-part section of the song shows the aliens from Chicken Little when they started invading the planet. We see old Foxy fighting them only to get teleported and her mind shattered. Her old self watches the new self walk ahead of her into a light. The light is panned into as it returns to present day where new Foxy is being led to a special brain-altering room. The mayor places a call as one of the aliens arrives on the planet. As this goes on, new Foxy looks about the room she’s being led into, still smiling but her body movement shows her reluctance and the lyrics would include bits like, “Was I really so much worse than you?” and “Don’t you think that you deserve this too?” [2:31-2:46] Foxy is placed on a mad scientist operating table as the mayor and alien prepare to give her new personality a tune-up. They both sing about the importance of putting on a good face and how they can’t have “bad acorns” running around anymore. They claim to be a different, more loving town and Foxy is their crown gem. [2:46-3:00] The song turns into a back-and-forth between Foxy and the Mayor, with Foxy saying how many in the town were worse than she was but the mayor says an example needs to be made. Foxy’s new personality is cracking more and more as the machine zaps her with the intent of a hard reset to silence the old persona. [3:01-3:14] The machine ends up waking up Foxy’s old self as a fluke but she’s severely damaged still. She breaks out, attacking the mayor before fleeing from town hall. In a mad craze, she terrifies the townsfolk while running back toward the school. And as she runs, she sees some of them have the same wide smiles. She sees the aliens hiding in plain sight over buildings, monitoring. She grabs the bat she saw earlier. [3:15-3:30] Foxy starts attacking anyone with a smile in her now torn-up clothes. She beats on some of the aliens trying to stop her but can’t do much damage to their suits. She still manages to create quite a mess and is too fast to get captured in this feral state. But then she sees Goosey again, looking terrified at not just Foxy but the police state the town is in with the aliens out and in full force again. Foxy has her bat out, ready to strike Goosey but she hesitates just in time for Runt to tackle her to the ground [3:31-3:43] We see the town being rapidly repaired and those who were injured being brought into City Hall where their memories are altered. Everything is a blur as the days quickly pass until reaching when all the repairs are completed, as if nothing happened. [3:43-end] We see all the people throughout the town who got the lobotomy, wearing the same plastic smile and some even dressed similarly to Foxy. The Chicken Little crew join Goosey in being disturbed by it all now, except for Runt, who stands proud as a “model citizen”. The end shows Foxy bursting out of City Hall with her outfit and makeup fixed. She resumes prancing about happily as the song closes out. The final lyrics are rapid. “Per-fect, ev-ry-bo-dy, a friendly so-ci-e-ty Per-fect, without worry, our joyful lo-bot-om-y Just ad-mit it’s all bet-ter this way… Our plea-sant per-fect so-ci-e-ty”
@@Cesar-w8v Hey, I saw that you had more in your initial reply concerning the mayor and the aliens. Your comment looked perfectly respectful so please don't feel discouraged to share constructive criticism. After all, I made the original post in just an hour and a half so there's 100% stuff that could be improved. And besides, if the creator sees this thread, the more the merrier for discussion to give them more ideas. Regardless of if you choose to let me know your critiques, I really appreciate your kind words.
@@TrisStrudel yea my bad I read my comment and for me it sounded rude, I was just stating on how the Mayor in the film didn't really care about the town people and was more of a figure, in the town that wasn't really cared about. And the aliens weren't evil, I just think in my opinion, that Runt the pig should have more of a role as he was the main reason why Foxy ended that way and he basically ruined her life.
@@Cesar-w8v I think that's totally fair. If I were to spend a longer chunk of time on this--maybe writing out full lyrics--I'd definitely put Runt in more of it and have him be more directly involved. With the mayor and the aliens, that was more just a sort of twisted future kind of approach, kind of just expanding on how what happened to Foxy could be expanded to anyone else. Maybe instead of the mayor directly being involved, Runt could be the one bringing Foxy over for some kind of reexamination. That would definitely be more personal.
as a kid I was disturbed by what happened to her, I acted just like her as a kid, she was my favorite because I was an unapologetically annoying kid, I was horrified of this movie because of how she ended up, I remember I started acting worse and being cruel to other kids as opposed to just being annoying as I was before because I was scared to lose myself and end up like her
Well ... Gues the writters thought "oh wait we can't let the Bully going impune this will be a bad lesson to kids"... as if lobotomize A LITERAL KID was a good lesson like "woho don't be mean or you will end up like her" ... I always thought that this movie was wierd but man that's just so messed up (if i write sothing wrong im Sorry my native language isn't english )
Remember the 1943 disney chicken little where foxy loxie eats the whole town and there's a wishbone cemetery? Where the ending is literally the narrorator going "thats not how this ends!" And the fox going "not in my book."? Chicken little was always a horror film.
I mean yea, now that i think about it, she literally had her mind completly replaced, just because she was a bully and people "liked her better that way". That's like giving someone death by firing squad for stealing a pack of gum. This wasn't some horror film, this was Chicken Little. That's messed up.
The "perfect" Foxy Loxy looks like she was crying. Her mascara is running down her face, possibly showing that the real Foxy Loxy is still in there and is struggling to let herself out.
I like the fact that this song has an uncanny feeling to it, like it comes off as too cheery, and almost fake. And it has that creeping sense of something being wrong.
The world was pink, to pink. She hated pink, why is there pink everywhere? Where was she? She looked down at her hands..was that a parasol? When did she get that? She hates that kinda stuff, her body was moving, dancing it seemed but...she didnt want to dance, she didnt want to sing any of these corny lyrics coming out of her mouth. The last thing she saw was those...things, aliens? Ripping open apart the sky and everyone scattering, her parents were gone and she was alone. She always hated being alone, but she was only alone for a few minutes, a few agonizing minutes of running through the streets of her town with everyone screaming around her. Was this the end of the world? And then...she was gone...and then the world was pink. What was his name? Bunt? Grunt? She didn't care, she never cared, all she knew is he was a loser...but he was everywhere she went, and wherever he went for some reason she was forced to follow. She despised him, he thought she was perfect, every time she heard him call her perfect now she wanted to cry, run, scream, go home and escape this house of madness. But what she did instead every time was smile and do a curtsey, they hurt, but at least she felt something. The pain of dancing and singing and curtseying all the time for ages on end for him simply because he found it entertaining was driving her insane, with each step she felt an electric shock travel up her leg into the rest of her body making her want to fall and break like china. But she couldn't. If he said dance with me, she danced, if he said do a duet with me, she sang a the duet in a forced soprano sing songy voice. Even when she was home, with her family, she couldn't stop herself from being...whatever she was now, who even was she? Foxy Loxy is gone after all, she cant even talk, she can barely think, they should just rename her and make a tombstone for the girl she used to be. Her family couldnt look at her, and when they did they would sigh and go back to doing what they were doing. She had stared at her previous trophies for who knows how long, it wasnt much, but the trophies brought back memories, good ones. Memories of roughhousing and playing in the dirt, tackling her friends, throwing dogballs at the “unpopular” as the couch had put it. She missed baseball the most out of any sport, it was her favorite, both she and her family would go out to the baseball field to practice once a week since she was a kit...but she couldn't play baseball anymore, anytime she had dirt even on her shed audibly gasp and run to the bathroom to clean it off her frilly pink dress. God did she hate frills, but most of all she hated pink. Those memories, the happy ones, were keeping her sane she thought, even if they wernt, they were keeping her there...she didnt know if she wanted to be there anymore, she was watching her life be runover by some prissy pansy everyone thought was her...but it was her, she knew her mind was probably ruined at this point, her thoughts were becoming filled with bubbles and pink goey musicals she didnt care about. How long has her body been staring at these trophies? when did she start crying? Why is she smiling? Smiling so much it hurts but she cant stop crying, why wont it just stop? Why cant she go out and play anymore? Who was she? Who did this to her? Why is everyone ok with this? Why wont this just stop? Just stop…just stop just stopjuststopJUSTSTOPJUSTSTOP. She had always hated pink, and now her mind was full of the dreadful color.
ive only seen the nostalgia critic review it so i made a lot of assumptions of her character besides the little ive seen so sorry if theres anything wrong
Funny thing about writing: sometimes changing one small scene can greatly improve or ruin a story. In Foxy Loxy’s case, changing this scene to simply having her apologize to Chicken Little=Improvement
At the same time because everyone is realizing the real tragedy of her date we could get many fan made stories based off of different thoughts and perspectives of her and potentially the people around her's struggle with her mind having been scrambled,and perhaps a deserved true good ending with her on the mend,its a opportunity to create unhinged stories and I can't wait to see them
Yes. Although, if that happened, we wouldn't have gotten this awesome music! If her story ended happily, nobody here would be talking about her. This nightmarish writing choice has become the most fun thing about the film for a lot of people. Endless fanfiction ammo.
It's quite funny to think that someone who hasn't watched Chicken Little or who hasn't remembered the ending scene would think this is some AU or something
this has given me the idea of a fanfiction that has her slowly break away from her mental prison, maybe with the help of some chicken little and his friends excluding the pig (I forget his name) starting to think "ya know thats minda messed up". just to add onto the horror *age em up* *make it a few years later, and she's only now starting to recover her mind* Im no where near good enough of a writer to make this, but if anyone sees this and decides to write it, let me know Id love to read it.
i wouldn't be surprised if someone, or multiple someones, wrote fanfic based on this concept. i mean, the movie came out in 2005, there has to at least be a couple of fanfics or other fan works written and made over the past 19 years.
It’s a little sad that Disney made the writers change the original script for Chicken little. Chicken Little was actually suppose to be a girl named Henny Penny who had an overactive imagination (think those shadows in the closet look like a monster). She goes to a summer camp where all the counsolers are wolves in sheep’s clothing but no one believes her. The entire story got rewritten because the CEO was sexist. He believed girls would see a movie with a boy protagonists but boys wouldn’t see a movie with a girl protagonist. Says the guy who runs the princess franchise.
@@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 See, that original story would've been a great metaphor for child molestation and resonated with a lot of kids but instead they did whatever this is.
The version where Chicken Little was a girl also had a lot more heart. Buck wasn't inherently awful, he was just not getting a lot of sleep due to being woken up every night because of his daughter's nightmares which causes him to lash out saying that he wishes he had a normal child while he thinks his daughter isn't around. He's also called out on his bs by his wife who was alive in that draft giving another perspective on Little's behavior (rather than just being the dead mom trope and her loss being used as an excuse for Buck's crappy father behavior) and he apologizes to his daughter that very same night. Father-daughter relationships were and still kind of are pretty underexplored, especially a struggle like this where the daughter is the weird anxious kid while the father just wants a normal happy family life. At the time it came out, it really could have been something special, but no, clearly the story needed more aliens, baseball and mean-spirited humor.
I just realized the “perfect” version of her has her carousel on her arm. But since I can’t see the whole thing I thought that was just a chain or something. 10/10 would terrify me again
I never realized this, but after reading the comments, Chicken Little was horrific. She was lobotomized, the town gangs up on Chicken Little and planned on making him into a movie just to torment him, and had a neglectful father. Jesus Christ...
I'm honestly glad that this has been talked about. That scene never set right with me as a kid. Especially, how they allowed another kid to decide to leave her lobotomized.
This song has so many layers, the main melody may represent her true persona, trapped and lamenting her fate, and the childish xylophone tune in the background is her new distorted persona, the inside is being externalized in the wrong way.
and the fact that he willingly had them keep her like that was disturbing and can we imagine what her parents went through when they found out he made the aliens keep her like that? imagine if they were older and she had a boyfriend or girlfriend only for said person to learn their love is forever gone because of One selfish pigs choice.
I bet the parents were not happy at all that their daughter is gone replace by this girl who isn't there anymore and the father was pissed off that the town and that pig were OK with this that she got lobotomy and they just replace by new kid that isn't their daughter anymore just a braindead zombie
Wow her dad would rightly pissed like imagining find out that your child the one you look after was captured by aliens and got lobotomy and they kept her like that a lot of anger and tears, fighting (I headcanon that foxy loxy mom died so that why she bullies the gang)
(LONG RANT WARNING) I think the worst part about this is like what about her parents??? Imagine not knowing your daughter was abducted by aliens during an alien attack, not knowing where she was and fearing for her safety but after the invasion she came back a totally different person, came back as someone you certainly didn't raise, losing who you loved and cherished from the day she was born, just gone, mind wiped all because a selfish and stupid pig saying no to the alien, that was ALSO thinking it was scary of the pig to just decide this on a whim so quickly, literally saying scary before leaving in a hurry, turning her back to who she was She even had a close friend, goosey loosey, there could even be a possibility that foxy roxy lost parts of her memories, even the memories of her close friends, so just imagine losing your friend all because someone didn't want her to turn back to normal
Coming this Fall to Disney Home Entertainment It's been twenty years since the sky fell at Oaky Oaks, and everything has been fine in this small, quaint community. Away from the hustle and bustle of the city, this is a place you really get to know your neighbors... at least you think so. When a series of mysterious disappearances shook the town, nobody has any idea who it could be... except Chicken Little. "I think whatever the aliens did to her is wearing off!" But how could he suspect the wife of his best friend is behind this? She's so sweet... so bubbly... so kind. She couldn't hurt a fly... "The old Foxy is coming back, and I don't think she's happy about what we did!" She always makes sure her husband Runt has the best dinner ready for him when he comes home... though nobody remembers seeing her at the butcher's lately. Cuts to Foxy Loxy preparing a meat pie with a cleaver nearby. "She's going after us one by one! First Goosey Loosey, and then Fish Out of Water! Who's next?!" Tom Turkey, scrambling in his office for his life, as the shadowy outline of Foxy looms over him with a cleaver in hand. Chicken Little 2: Foxy Loxy's Revenge. "Oh lollipop! Teehee!" Rated R
Man, I did not even remotely remember that part of the movie until I clicked on this out of morbid curiosity of what a Chicken Little fan song would sound like.
As a kid who was bullied a lot, i used to think Loxy got what she deserved and i was happy that she no longer was a bully. Now i'm honestly disturbed, she wasn't as bad as the rest of the town yet she got the worst fate of them all The song is amazing, even without lyrics, the instrumental by itself already tells the story in a clever way
As a kid my dad highkey tried doing the same thing to me through abuse so I didn't have the "this is horrific" reaction everyone else mentions having.. but as an adult?? Even the 5 seconds of her blinking for help during the end credits scene is terrifying. Imagine being a prisoner like that, for no valid reason.
Ok so let me get this straight. Foxy was held captive by aliens, and while being released her brain was rewired into making her a more girly version of herself. It didn’t just change her personality, but literally her whole psyche. She has lost all memory of her life and is suddenly reborn into this new person. Oh god. At first I thought people were over exaggerating, but now actually thinking about it, that’s pretty scary.
This is an interesting bit of fridge horror, because most of us watching the movie as kids had no concept of lobotomies or how devastating they are. Most of also didn’t know a lot about SA or the fact that some people (like children, intoxicated people, and lobotomy victims) cannot give consent. So even if it felt a little uncomfortable to see Foxy stay completely changed in order to be some guy’s dream GF, the actual gut punch requires a teen/adult level of education to feel.
I want to compliment the artist Foxy's original self looks terrified as does her new self ( even though she has a smile on her face ) and Runt's grin looks quite sinister
As kids: "Haha, she's nice now."
As adults: "Oh, oh that's, that's severe mental and psychological damage, wow."
@@nadroji6549 yep
Even as a kid I felt something off about it but it was more like "how the hell did they find this off putting concept funny" and not actual sympathy
@@nadroji6549 to be honest, I don't care... I have no sympathy nor empathy nor mercy for people like her.
Idk I had a fervent hate for bullies as a child so I definitely didn’t care. As an adult, yeah that’s really disturbing
It’s her punishment. Now, if only Little’s father could be punished.
"She got her brainwaves scrambled during reconstitution. No worries! We can put her back the way she was."
"No! She's perfect."
...Scary
I almost forgot how messed up that part of the movie was. 😬
Chad?
@@untitled-gv3qpme too, I was a teenager when I realized how that was mess up.
@@ohhombrehermoso3955 no chad
That's kinda wild how the mean child antagonist in this movie got a worse fate than many adult antagonists out there who committed actual crimes
Straight up though. Most stories whether for children or adults treat permanently "adjusting" someone's personality like this as the demonic act it is. But apparently it's just okay in this verse. It's not even played as a gag it feels like it's supposed to be some kind of righteous comeuppance or something. Which makes it even creepier.
@@kieranadamson3224 The Chicken Little universe is just evil bro. It's apparently ok for Buck Cluck (one of the worst fathers in fiction) and the other adults to treat his son like trash, but another kid joining in on it was just a step too far 💀
@@meth_raccoon yeah, that was the weirdest part. The rest of the town INCLUDING CL'S DAD face no consequences and show no remorse for their actions. Meanwhile the bully character gets a fate worse than death. I mean yes she was an utter bitch at the start but she's what? 11 maybe 12 at the biggest stretch she's 14. She's a kid. A kid who's being mean and has some personality flaws though it certainly doesn't help that the stuff she does is treated as normal by every single adult around. Then we're supposed to just accept a child getting mind broken at the end.
Well even in the movie there are characters who should have a worse ending than they have. For example the Chiken Little father was neglectfull towards him and no face any consequence rather than "my son was rigth all this time and i dont believe him". He was an adult with full capacities
Love how pre-brain scrambling Foxy is drawn to look like the Final Girl in a horror movie, while her counterpart looks like a creepy doll and how Runt looks like a horror movie monster. Like, a legitimately terrifying monster and not a cheesy underbudgeted puppet.
Yeah. That makes sense. Considering he wanted her to be a pretty, perfect doll to love. The way he's drawn also makes him seem imposing/menacing. Like he's trapping her
@@lonemew3503but he is not, another comment points out that Runt probably doesn't understand the implications of Loxy's lobotomy and just enjoys that she is no longer a bully (still, very messed up)
He doesn’t seem like a monster in the sense of like Dracula, but in the sense of a predator who takes advantage of someone for their own gratification.
@@agustinmora7860 bestie he kissed her not even a minute after she was "fixed"
@@Partyboxd correct me if I'm wrong, "bestie", but they kissed during or after the movie scene, which probably has a long Time gap after the invasion, and still, I am yet to ser someone argumenting how that changes the fact that Runt had no malice behind his actions, as wrong as they were
The fact the alien says “scary” even shows that the writers knew what they were doing too 😭
Bro the alien knew that what runt was doing was messed up
The alien is the most based character in fiction
@@Justabearreviewsthe aliens were the good guys in the movie
they were only trying to retrieve there son from the chaotic cesspool of a town
The town are the evil ones, but poor foxy.
@@christianrodriguez3957It's still a bad thing to agree to not repair her, especially because they knew it was messed up
@@uriellando1104 they just got beaten by these townsfolk and had caused them so much trouble so I honestly wouldn't blame them to want to just leave them to their earthly affairs 😭
The worst part of it all is the aliens said they could Return her to normal but runt says no she’s perfect.
Runt is the real villain
@@MFool64I want to pit roast runt
Another thing i would like to add is, does Foxy's parents approve of what happened? Do they even care? Do they even care of the fact that some fat pig stopped the Aliens from bringing her back to normal so he can keep her as a brainwashed GF for himself? This town is messed up AF!!!
@@silentecho92able i theorize the parents wouldn't care at all, else they'd try and stop her from all the bullying or at least find some probable cause for such behaviors.
According to the official lore Foxy herself refused to be turned back, and was intended to be a plot point for a canceled sequel where she wants to stay her new self but others keep pressuring her to go back to how she was
It’s just the most messed thing really, because an all-round “nice guy” ended up lobotomising a girl and getting away with it
I guess runt had a dark side this whole time lol
Fr, even before I understood how truly messed up it was what happened to her, I was confused about why the aliens just let Runt stop them from turning her back as if he had any right to decide that!
Nope, those were the aliens.
Yes. Runt never lobotomized her. It was the aliens.
Haha, "all-round"
I feel like Foxy Loxy's overly fucked up fate was probably Disney "compensating" for the fact that the character won in the original Chicken Little. Foxy was all about mind games, so they decided mind break would be a fitting punishment. The problem is they forgot that that version of the character was a straight up manipulative sadist who led to the deaths of 99% of the cast whereas this version's only crime was being an annoying bully.
Yeah, a twisted kind of irony.
I still don’t get how they thought this was a good idea
@@PogloGonzales
They didn't think.
@@purplepedantryThey never do.
The what?! And There's a book?
The fact that all this happened to a random school bully but Chicken Little's own dad got off scott-free for abusing his son is actually insane lmao
Not to mention all the other townfolk
@@FutureGio They're just going along with it but his own dad had no excuse.
People seem to forget Pi's dad, the Mishimas and Saint Seiya exist
Abusing his son? I think you got a different copy of the movie, bro 💀💀💀💀💀
Yea, its more neglect than abuse iirc
i actually kinda liked foxy loxy as a kid so when the end rolled around, i assumed they would give her a mini redemption arc where she starts trying to be nicer but still got to be a tomboy.
imagine my horror when they fucking lobotomized her into a hyperfeminine girly girl and everyone was like "shes better this way actually :D" like HUH????
That struck me as weird then and it's fucking sick now.
there’s nothing wrong with her being girly it’s just the fact they lobotomized her to be girly :(
During the song in the credits, she’s singing a duet with Runt and at some point she makes a forced smile and directly stares at the camera, while she sings about something that her old self would never say. As if it wasn’t messed up enough.
WAIT! In the actual movie? Fuuuu...
DE VERDAD?!
@@damarisaquinohernandez7018 th-cam.com/video/bsF4B1K0a-4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0DH0mhxgKCALzZZc ¿Será en el 0:28?
Wasn’t the song “don’t go breaking my heart”? And she was singing the lyric “I couldn’t if I tried”? God, someone at Disney knew what they were doing
her eye twitches during the song too, she’s still in there and she’ll never stop fighting to get out
she's far from the most evil disney antagonist and yet her fate is worse than death.
@@Mr.Maguro labotamy analog in a kids movie. And she was traumatized beforehand, too with the aliens kidnapping her. It is so dark for a kids movie!
I don't know know if it was worse, but it was definitely NOT deserved.
@@ericlarrieu-let5757 I would rather die than be forced to stay that way because some guy said "she's perfect". Really creepy that she was left that way when we know she would never consent to dating him of her own free will. She is esentially permanently drugged.
The rest of the town changes, becoming better and kinder. She wasn't even given the chance, let alone a choice.
@@oakenshadow6763 Look, the runtime was almost over and we needed to deal with this secondary antagonist in under a minute, what were we supposed to do? Showing her reluctantly thanking Chichen Little for saving her and then add a couple seconds of her being less mean to the other kids in the epilogue? Ridiculous!
A prisoner of her own mind a husk of her former self. And a lollipop enthusiast.
Just rewatched Chicken Little because of this.
The morning of the baseball game, Foxy Loxy got up figuring she'd easily win the pennant. It's completely understandable she'd be crushed when Chicken Little swept in to get it last minute out of a fluke.
A moment that stuck out to me was when Chicken Little tries warning the town about the aliens; Loxy honestly shows genuine concern to Mr. Cluck. He was the big star athlete before her, so she might look up to him and share in his disappointment in his son. Maybe bullying was her childish tomboy way of trying to 'toughen him up?'
We'll never know, now. 'She's perfect.'
Foxy definitely deserves the praise because she carried the team to the finals. No one wanted Chicken Little to bat, but it was on the sheet and they didn't have much of a choice. Interesting theory that she picked on Chicken Little because he wasn't living up to his dads name. Though she did pick on him and his friends. Yet now "She's perfect" Has such dark undertones.
@@chrimsonphantom Now i want to see some sort of story or comic that explores this idea, like how everything went down from her perspective, like how she met the goose girl, her passion for sports (in a discarded script, it was going to be shown that she was very talented, winning several sport championships), like how she admired many athletes, the acorn incident and when she started going after Chicken Little and his friends, all the way to the championship and the alien invasion, the ending would be very dark considering how all of that is either repressed or gone since "She's perfect" now
@@andreacastillo5030 Thinking about it. We have Cruella and Maleficent movies, that were made to make classic Disney villains sympathetic. Yet the way we're describing Foxy from chicken little. I am far more interesting in seeing a comic or short animated movie about her. Rather than Cruella and Maleficent. Probably because she wasn't that bad in comparison to everyone else. Making us sympathize with an antagonist that really wasn't evil to begin with is much more interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing that and maybe even have a comic with Foxy and Foxy talking with each other inside her mind trying to regain control.
Stop woke😂
@@scholartheterminator94 lol, replied to the wrong comment.
On the wrong video, even.
Someone should totally write a physiological horror fanfiction where Loxy begins to realize that her whole previous identity was erased from existence and she begins to break down as she realizes that the whole town is okay with it. Then at the end she is able to escape and reclaim some of who she was
And in the end just as she's about to escape or restore herself she hears one word "perfect" and the reprogramming reasserts itself. And Runt realizes it's a trigger word.
God I would love this
I can totally do it. I live for this stuff
I’m gonna try to write this right now thanks for the idea
@@PogloGonzales glad I could help
This was my top ten pick for animated villains who didn't deserved what they got. It is borderline disturbing to have your mind broken and stay broken because some guy likes you that way.
To quote nostalgia critic. "The daughter the parents knew and loved is DEAD."
assuming they loved her
@@lumpy-ve8ceWhy would we assume they didn’t? And even if a parent dislikes certain aspects of their children like they’d prefer they’d not be a bully, I’m certain they would’ve preferred talking it out and having her learn from her mistakes naturally rather than have her LOBOTOMIZED into an entirely separate person, with the only beings capable of fixing her unable to be contacted
@@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 This isn't the first time I got a comment like this on this video. Really don't know where the assumptions Foxy wasn't loved by her parents are coming from. (check out my other comment someone said that her parents were worse than Buck.) She was a star player for the baseball team, and she brought the town to the championships. Where Chicken Little play kinda took some of the glory from her. As they will remember how Chicken Little hit the homerun. We don't really see most of the families in the film. Not even Runt of the litter, which implies he has siblings.
@@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 I WAS gonna write ''jk I am sure at least one of the parents loved her considering they allowed her to join the baseball club'' but I had to leave my room so I left it half complete in hopes to quickly edit it in. But then I forgot about it entirely and it was at the back of my mind all day while I was at school (Highscool specificly) as I was dying from embaressment.
@@lumpy-ve8ce Lol
Considering she was not only a baseball player, but THE star baseball player whose efforts brought her team to the finals until her victory was unceremoniously stolen by Chicken Little who did exactly one Home Run, I’d say Foxy Loxy was probably pretty loved
I love the shackle on her arm to symbolize she’s a prisoner in her own mind and in the hands of the pig dude
I think that’s the handle too her umbrella
@@needhd7159 Maybe it's meant to look like a shackle, like a double meaning.
Well actualy that's the hand of her Parasol but it does resemble a shackle so it does actualy hold that symbolism all the same.
The pig is called Runt I believe. And I agree with some of the other comments that it is probably the handle to her umbrella meant to resemble a shackle in its current position
@@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 It's verry practical symblism ain't it?
Here before this blows up and Foxy Loxy becomes a trendy character for psychological horror fanfics. Which I'm all here for
Foxy Loxy becomes a trendy character for psychological horror fanfics:
Proceeds to write some notes for a future horror fanfic.
YEAH UH HUH, *opens up google docs*
Just posted a draft in a reply to my own comment. Tell me what you think, would you kindly?
We really getting a age of Chicken Little Grimdark fanfics boy, enbies and girls. I don't know whether to be happy or sad.
@@mariotron8718 i’d say be happy. The whole reason why people take kids stuff and make grimdarks is because taking something happy and putting it in a setting where it doesn’t belong makes the story feel more realistic to what is real. We never feel like we belong in a creepy setting, so why make a story where the characters seem that way?
Considering this ending scene, the horrible parenting from Chicken Little's dad, and the actions of the townspeople in general, it seems like this town is just full of sociopaths and jerks, even the supposed "good guys".
i mean, looking at present day brainrotted people , if anything the townspeople's lunacy were downplayed
The most morally good characters were the aliens, who terrorized a whole town to find their child.
@@jacobcox4565 which, debatably made sense given this towns tendency for mass chaos and destruction at the drop of a hat.
"Oh no! My child's gone missing when some earthlings broke into my ship! These earthlings nearly destroy their town anytime anything happens! They require the upmost force to handle!"
There's a train of logic here. Just a weird train of logic.
Bueno derepente youtube me recomendo esto😊
@@jacobcox4565And Fish, shouldn't forget about him
The Chicken Little fandom, somehow a breathing paradox that defies all laws and just casually manifested into existence
Just like the actual movie
Chicken has a fandom?
@@rapatacush3I mean this video is obvious proof that there is a fandom
@@AtomicWhiskers or maybe just a guy who remembered it and made whatever the hell this is.
Hey that's my pfp
@@phn4868
👁👄👁
There can only be one.
☠🪓
I found that ending for her HORRIFYING as a kid. Im a tom boy, always have been, and say that as a terrable thing to do to her. Thank you for also seeing it.
I'm a tomboy too
Fr. It kind of came off like the creators were saying that it would be better if you were just submissive and feminine instead of a tomboy. I am not sure if that was intended, but that is what it felt like to me 😞
@@coolwhiptaillizardI think their intended message was to be kinder to people.
But DAMN they missed the mark!
imagine if they did this to susie deltarune,, 😔
@@holeofdarnSTOP GIVING ME NIGHTMARES
I straight up completely forgot the plot of Chicken Little WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BULLY CHARACTER GOT LOBOTOMIZED???
I am not sure if you were actually wondering but the context is that when she was taken in and taken out of the alien space ship, her brain was scrambled. The alien was going to put her mind back to normal, but runt (pig) found her attractive that way so they kept her brain scrambled for him.
@coolwhiptaillizard That's just... really f*cked up man...
@@coolwhiptaillizard ty I was wondering this too 😂😂 that's super messed up
@@coolwhiptaillizardwe don’t even know what happened in the ship to get her like this.
@@brodietabernacki2026 going off of my memory of the movie; I think for some reason she was traumatized and regressing to a childlike state when she was in the ship
Seeing as she was the only one to change it could be concluded that the trauma and childlike regression is what caused the scrambled mind when she was transported back to earth
Even as a kid I knew this was messed up. They basically said her brain was scrambled. Instead of fixing her however which seemed easy to do they just kept her that way. Either her original personality is trapped in her mind somewhere or it's just gone which means they basically killed and replaced her.
It was fixable. Just that Runt of the Little thought she was perfect the way she is now. An entire concept of the original personality trying to get out would make for an interesting comic or short.
In her head she is probably fighting it but failing
@@ShadowDemon_4 straight up labotamized the kid. So messed up. Especially as she was scared to instantly sucking her thumb in the voice after being kidnapped.
@@oakenshadow6763she attacked a war of the worlds ripp off war machine with a pie. She was dumb as hell and got what was coming to her.
they even offered to fix her, but didn't because runt said she was better this way
The art looks like it’s supposed to be part of a Creepypasta or a horror game with a cute aesthetic but with a dark twist
Reminds me of artwork for a really well written mlp grimdark
Either that or the cover page for a bbm NTR doujin
Now everything terror has to be cute. I miss games like resident evil 1, or the evil within.
I can already imagine it now... Some critter, maybe you the player, is a newcomer with your parents to Oakey Oaks after the aliens incident and after a movie was made about it. It would be a cute comfy slice-of-life sandbox game. Make your character go to schools, make friends, get side quests, have a look around the town, customize your character and your bedroom as you like, get small tasks to earn money, and have the option to watch some events. It's all comfy and cute until the main story event starts to take hold and your character slowly takes notice that something is wrong with the town. Especially if your character has befriended Foxy Loxy. Or when the more you talk to the other residents of the town, the more you take note of how the notorious hero, Chicken Little, was ridiculous by almost everyone before the truth that aliens are real is exposed even though he was just a little kid who they should've at least be a concern if he were just sputtering nonsense but instead decides to publicly humiliate him, how his father treated him until he achieved something...And also, the movie they made about him and his friends was just so wrong.
@@rapatacush3you can still play them, it's just a different style
Imagine: You’re a having a perfectly normal day but then you can’t move. Your body continues to move, *but that’s not you.* You try to scream, to move, to ask for help, but you can’t even cry. You’re a prisoner in your own mind, forced to watch as this false you takes your place. Eventually, they find a way to turn you back and you feel a rush of joy. You can be you again! But, no, the kid you bullied traps you in the shell for the rest of your life. Why did you taunt him? You fade away as “your” new personality becomes permanent, and the real you dies.
DX
thats kinda fucking dark
@@christianrodriguez3957kinda?
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream and TADC references.
@@SupeMan2004I’ve also heard of these two works.
By the way, where did you hear about the latter?
You know you've fucked up when the bully character is the most redeemable one in the story by the end of it ON ACCIDENT.
I like to headcanon that sometime after the event of the movie, Foxy's brainwaves "realigned" and she went back to being her usual self.
Or maybe she just stays this way as this was the real Foxy Loxy all along and the bully was just a split personality Foxy had
@@ripparoofulgens8624 That's honestly still messed up
@@mabuhayimplottingyourdemis423 But it would be a good plot twist
I think she does return to normal (somehow lol) in a storyboard of the scrapped sequel right before Disney axed the direct to video movie plans they had :/
@@the_pumpking_ Nah, she’d stay like her now sweet self, however, she does keep some of her old personalities traits. So her old self isn’t fully gone. Mostly replaced with the sweet personality, yes.
I think the worst part is that they could’ve turned her back to normal but the pig wanted a girlfriend so he said no. AND THEY WENT ALONG WITH IT
Very fitting considering that he is pig.
Yeah…this shit was fucked
ough i know right its so hot, the chuddy piggy gets his lobotmized tradwife its so heckin kino
In the alien defense, they sure tought that kind of stuff was normal in our planet.
The Town people by the other hand should have said something about it.
Like that is some incel crap
Even as a kid, her ending always disturbed me. She wasn’t nice, but that doesn’t justify what happened to her. I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt bad for Foxy Loxy.
@@LordPanda9259 yah. She was just a kid. She could still grow up and be better if her environment got better and she got help. And the town DID get better! So she got labotamized as a child for nothing.
No stop being woke, it’s a kids movie you softies 😂
@@scholartheterminator94 The fact that people can think about something more than you really strikes a nerve, huh?
@@scholartheterminator94 it's not really woke it's more that it's looking more into something that the writers never intended to be. And while that can lead to really stupid assumptions, here it's not like the film has anything else to chew on so why not?
Indeed 😭
"You can't ask me to disappear just because you like some other guy better. Aren't I entitled to a little dignity?"
-The real Seymour Skinner, who at least got to remain himself.
I do believe that referencing the events of principal and the pauper was made illegal, punishable… by torture.
@@AnimatedTerror Having to reply this late covered it plenty.
Refrecing the principal and the pauper results in a lobotomy.
I have a horror game concept for this.
Chapter 1
You play as Foxy Loxy during the entirety of the game, and in Chapter 1, your taking a walk with your boyfriend Runt. Runt and Foxy Loxy are deciding on which activities to do today. They both decide: Take a walk in the park during the day, have a picnic in the afternoon, and watch a movie at the theatre at night. Before doing those activities, you'll get the chance to talk to a couple of the town members. Depending on what time it is (via current activites you've done), the town member's dialogues will be different. Eventually when you get to the theatre, Foxy falls asleep mid-movie and the chapter ends. Before this, you get the chance to do some side quests that you can't do later in the chapters, and these quests will determine the ending you get.
Chapter 2
Foxy wakes up and everyone has left the theatre. The movie is over, and Foxy feels embarrassed. She leaves, and soon realizes that everyone in the town has vanished. Everything is dark, the town looks like it's slowly crumbling. She walks around a bit and finds Runt, but Runt has also changed. He's huge and tall, with sharp claws and huge sharp teeth. His clothes are torn, he almost looks like a demon. Foxy gets scared, and runs into a house, barricading the door until Runt leaves. After Runt leaves, Foxy starts to break down, confused as to what is happening, when suddenly she hears a voice. It's Goosey Loosey, calling to her. She reveals that the place Foxy is in is the back of her mind, where her memories are stored. She explains that Foxy's entire personality was wiped from existance, and if she wants to return back to normal, she has to find her memory pieces that were shattered. Goosey says that you can hide behind crumbling structures or alleyways to avoid Runt. Runt is the only enemy you have to face, btw.
Chapter 3
After finding all the shards, the town is falling apart. The buildings have many cracks in them, so does the floor. Every house looks like it's about to fall over, the School is in terrible condition with all the windows broken, etc. The sky is pure white, and parts of the sky are falling. There is a timer now, and as the timer is ticking down, this plays. You have 4 minutes to escape, and Foxy will return to her normal self.
Abilities and Endings cuz I'm starting to get lazy ;-;
Abilities: Foxy can glide in the air with her parasol for a couple seconds, and is also capable of a double jump. If you click the sprint button twist, she'll dash.
Endings:
Moral Ending - Foxy escapes from her mind and has returned to who she was. She swears to all the townsfolk that she will never bully again, and later dumps Runt and becomes a better person, staying her true tomboy self. Requirements: All memory pieces obtained, no side quests completed.
Half and Half Ending - Foxy regains a bit of who she was, but still stays with Runt, and bullies whoever approaches them. She completely forgot about Goosey, her main focus only being Runt but still gets to be a tomboy. Requirements: Only a few memory pieces obtained, only a few side quests completed.
Lost Ending - Foxy escapes, but she's still in the same state she was before. She'll never get another chance to redeem herself. Requirements: No memory pieces obtained, all side quests completed.
Tragedy Ending - Foxy didn't escape her mind in time, and dies. Requirements: Let the timer run out on Chapter 3.
Shattering Reality Ending - Foxy escapes and realizes how horrible of a town this is. She dumps Runt and flees the town with Goosey.
I imagined this in a 2D style, but if anyone takes this concept and makes it into a horror game, you can change anything ya want about it! I don't remember alot about Chicken Little so ye :3
We need a game programmer now!
Call somebody to make this game immediately!
Out of curiosity, how does on achieve the Shattering Reality Ending? Is there a secret quest or a hidden memory in Chapter 2 that we have to find?
@@angelicrose-gold6735 Oh shoot, good question, I forgot to explain how to get it xd
To get the ending, you have to complete all the side quests, get all the memories, and escape Foxy's mind. But a hidden memory or side quest sounds like a cool idea, could be used for a secret ending.
Esto es increíblemente interesante
What happened to Foxy is so disturbing.
This was a perfect opportunity for her to realize bullying is wrong and she needs to stop.
Instead, her brain got scrambled on accident and Runt told the aliens to not change her back :(
Disney Honestly Unintentionally Created One Of The Most Disturbing Fates That's Even Worse Then What Usually Happens To Cartoon Antagonists
The Fact Foxy Loxy Is Presumably Stuck In This Rewired Personality Permanently Until She Dies Is Even More Horrific!
@@BlazeBlisterthespino7494it really is!! It's so tragic too since this accidental rewiring could've easily been reversed :(
Me seeing this as a kid: oh look the pig could finally find love 😃
Me seeing it now: 💀
@@deltamachine343 same, I thought it was cute when I was a kid, but now... it's so scary 😟
I kinda wonder how goosey loosey felt when she found out what happened to foxy bc weren’t those two like friends??
Making a HC that shes desperately trying to get foxy loxy back but any effort she does rut ruins her chances into doing so
@@howdoiusethis3809someone need to write about this
@@howdoiusethis3809That’s actually heartbreaking, no joke
@@ChoclateCakeMango tyty
@@howdoiusethis3809I'm sure you'd want to make someone cry with that idea (I'm that someone)
Even as a kid not fully comprehending the depth if how fucked her fate is i never felt right with what happens to her. Sure she's a standard bully and jerk in the beginning, but then it shows how it's her efforts that get the town baseball team into the final game. Her hard work and efforts all season, and in a single play have ALL CREDIT AND RECOGNITION FORGOTTEN. Yes it's supposed to be a feel good scene for the protagonist, but all he did was succeed once at the last step of thw finish line and he gets ALL the credit for the team getting the cup. Foxy is literally left forgotten in the back of the scene. And then an out of the blue alien invasion she had no part in bringing about shows up, she trys fighting it, stupid but still brave, and then gets labotomised and left at the mercy of those she used to bully.
@@stopmotiongarage220 THIS! A clear case of a kid with people pleasing tendencies being pushed and pushed to perform, and forgotten and tossed aside the moment she failed or was surpassed! She needed help, she is just a kid. The town improved, thus improving her environment and influences, but she lost even the chance to change. Instead, she lost even more of who she was to "please others" again.
i edge to foxys lobotomy
@@fortnitesussyballs6345AYO IS THAT YOU RUNT?
I was never really the most… smart kid, so only now am i realizing how HORRIBLE in concept her fate is. In a piece of media with characters that had any shred of human decency towards each other, this would be seen as a major tragedy. But no. Not here. God is dead in the chicken little universe.
God is dead in real life too. Horrible fates are happening to kids in real life too just as bad if not WORSE somehow.
god is alive and well for piggy, he was blessed with a tradwife fox hehehehe im tingling thinking about her❤❤❤❤
@@fortnitesussyballs6345🙁
I headcanon that God smited the pig dude after the movie
@@fortnitesussyballs6345 Bait used to be believable.
... why did I never think it was weird that they lobotomized her?
Likely because the movie itself didn’t portray this as a bad thing, they actually portrayed this as a GOOD thing in fact. I believe they were intending the message of “be kinder to others” but wildly missed the mark
There’s all sorts of fates and consequences that happen to villains in animated movies that if you think about the logistics of for a few seconds, they absolutely didn’t deserve it
@@TheMAM Because of how they portrayed it. It was "good for her and others!" The creators didn't make it look bad, so kids thought it was good.
Well, some. I was freaked out as a tom boy and thought my brain was gunna get messed with, too.
@@oakenshadow6763 Don't worry, the movie teaches us to wait until the tomboy becomes a bully to let the aliens have her.
Yep, no matter what, this fate is messed up, no real way to tell if she is actually happy, unlike with someone like GlomGold, form Ducktales
He was genuinely happy with being a fisher man, until his memory came back
The movie is close to being a farcical comedy which if it had managed would have probably allowed it to get away with functionally lobotomizing a child.
However I don’t think it manages to be the comedy of errors is seemed to want to be. Kind of.
So this thing which is clearly not meant to be taken seriously, comes off instead like the deeply disturbing act that it is.
She didn't deserve a fate worse than death. Imagine being her parents. The daughter they knew and probably loved is now dead.
Nostalgia critic reference
@@DollyCash19 Accidental lol.
Maybe her parents may have a doctor to set her back to normal 😅😇😮💨
@@PGbutalsofourteenplus not how lobotomy works
What do you mean maybe?
They really did my boy Runt so dirty with the end of the film 😭😭
He was just a silly little guy until that moment
The most silliest people can end up being the most evil.
Tbf, he is also a kid (a bullied one if I'm not wrong), so he wasn't thinking about the implications of Loxy being lobotomized
@@TordParker2.0he is not even evil??
@@agustinmora7860the adults were definitely fucked up for thinking this is okay and not telling him how fucked up this is
Fish is the sillier little guy
I'm glad so many people agree that what happened to her was messed up.
No it’s funny woke!😂
@@scholartheterminator94I seen this mf on like half of these comments, brother in Christ play a video game or something, better than this 🤣
@@scholartheterminator94Sorry, not liking Disney Movies is woke now?
If you think about it, Disney made accidently psychological horror.
Seriously though. This would be an awesome horror comic.
Where is the fanmade creepy comics about this concept? Probably out there somewhere
I need this to be a thing🙏 I’ll make one myself if I have to (probably not but still that’s a neat idea)
Nmms, si es cierto xD
In the words of the Patrick Warburton alien: "That's creepy." Even he knew this was messed up.
Like, was it really that hard to instead have a scene where she gives Runt a light punch, and say 'you weren't that bad, Runt', out of respext for how he survived?
That makes a much better ending for her
Agreed
Digamos que así fué como terminó
Y he dicho
CASO CERRADO!!!
Forgot chicken little had the "mind break" tag
"Fat ugly bastard," "Personality death," "stepfordization."
BRUH XDDD
@@misterdewott8766 Im pretty sure we can count this among the "Ugly Bastard" tag too.
Mind Break, Stepfordization, Ugly Bastard, Furry
And thats just the tags for this scene of movie.
Isn’t That Tag Used For Usually Smut Fanfics Though And Foxy Is A Minor? 😨
Looking back on this movie as someone who was a tomboy and is still more masculine now is honestly so weird. I don't think the intentions behind her character were meant to be this creepy at all, more of the writers just not thinking any deeper into it + a dose of normalized attitudes that really shouldn't be, but jeez man. The way she's presented as being "better" for being feminine is so unnerving
I’m surprised I haven’t seen many horror-related things about it
@@PogloGonzales
It'd be interesting to see an influx of the Stepford wife being a new horror trope :)
Even when I was a kid, when I saw Runt say "No! She's perfect~" it freaked me out because Foxy COULD have been changed back to normal but HE stopped it for his own romantic conquest. So fucked up that was in the actual movie instead of Foxy having a more typical "bad guy learns a lesson and becomes good" trope
Same, though I couldn't put it into words
There are so many layers to this. One of them being that Runt probably doesn't know the full, horrific extent to what he asked for. He probably saw what happened the same way the children watching the movie did. "Oh she's nice now! We can be friends." He has no grasp on complex psychological ethics. That doesn't make it okay, obviously. He still took part in what could be permanent mental damage. But I don't think he fully realizes that. Like with every single thing in this movie, the problem stemmed from the adults sitting back and watching the children they claim to care for brutalize each other. They watched foxy torment chicken little. Now they watch runt torment foxy.
Finally, someone who understands, the comments are so focused on saying that Runt is SUCH a terrible person and "Loxy didn't deserve this, she is a kid!" So Is Runt, he wouldn't understand how messed up the lobotomy is
@agustinmora7860 Exactly! Foxy was a bully because she was in an environment where it was allowed and even encouraged. No one stepped in to teach her better. Now Runt is doing something even worse than bullying, not because he's evil, but because no one is going to step in. Fuck this town man
@@jaxonwhite1156 not only that, as far as we see, not even Loxy's family gives a single care about what happened to her daughter, nor do they ask the alien to revert her back to normal even after he offers to fix her brain
@agustinmora7860 God I didn't even think about her family. Very very besy case scenario, they just happened to be outside of the scene. But even that implies that they weren't watching their young daughter during a possibly deadly alien invasion.
@@jaxonwhite1156 and, y'know, I'm pretty sure that there is a noticeable time gap between the end of the invasion and the movie scene, which means that neither the adults or her family cared after seeing her brain being scrambled so bad that even the alien called Runt "creepy"
That image is perfect and what makes this worse, is that she wasn't even that mean to Chicken Little. In comparison to everyone else in the entire town. Like yes she was the typical bully, but the whole town was picking on CL. They made a movie about his mishap, which made it so almost the entire country would've known about it. The things she did was adding a tiny bit of salt to the wound. CL's dad was the lemon coated blade that hurt CL the most.
Ehh I wouldn’t say she was nice or anything to him though. She was clearly a bully and an attention hog (pun not intended)… That said, I don’t think this is a fair fate either. Taking things a bit too far may be?
@@hiddenflare6169 She wasn't the nicest, she was clearly a bully. Yet Chicken Little cared more about trying to get his dad's approval back more than anything in the film. Which was the whole reason why he wanted to do baseball. Yet if she went to apologize for her actions now. It's less, "Hey Chicken Little I'm sorry for how I treated you and your friends. I was a bit of a jerk and after saving the town you guys are pretty cool."
and more.
"I'm sorry dear Chicken Little I had no Idea about the misfortune I cause you. I ever do apologize let us now carry forth as the bestest of friends. La la la."
Can't say its her really apologizing at that point which is dark and unfortunate.
@@chrimsonphantom Ok I kinda see that. Yeah now that I think on it most of the town was being pretty cruel and that could be why she thought it was just. It's not an excuse for her actions, as she always discouraged the boy in a few ways. That said, the biggest issue with her apologies now... Well that's not really her now is it? She's a different person and it's possible she won't recall behaving in such a way (unless she relapse into who she was of course), so it wouldn't be an apology at that point.
I think it's good to have a jerk character once in awhile, if she still hated Chicken Little at the end of the movie and didn't get 'this' at the end, it would be more interesting....
Sigh well like a lot of things with this movie, at least this makes talking about it more interesting.
@@hiddenflare6169 She probably won't be able to Recall what she did. Will anyone actually bring it up? The town because she was their baseball all star, her best friend, and her parents. It's weird just leaving her like that. It's good to have a jerk character, and there are plenty of movies and tv shows back then that had them.
Yet the punishments usually are suitable to the crime. The closest thing I can compare this to is Biff from back to the future.
There were three distinct timelines with Biff.
Main: Biff never got the girl but picked on the McFly Family actually needing them more then the McFly's needed Biff.
Second: After stepping up to Biff after assaulting his future wife, the McFly family was kind enough to hire Biff to work for them giving him a job while it looks like he was struggling to find work elsewhere without George McFly's help to keep him afloat.
How this compares to Foxy is that when things were going bad for Biff and he was punished for his crimes. It's still Biff in the end he just made different choices and that's where he ended up working for the McFly's. It was by that timeline's choice as he was actually super Dependent on George to be happy.
Foxy never got to make that choice.
You're right this is much more interesting to discuss.
Buck Cluck wasn’t even the worst character. He’s just as terrible as everyone else. If anything Foxy’s parents are worse
That smile on Loxy gives me goosebumps, it’s like she’s on the brink of screaming and crying, her eyes are maniac and wild- she doesn’t know what’s wrong, but SOMETHING is- it must be- she isn’t crazy, she’s not! Or, is she?
V-Sauce, Michael here...
@@a-s-greigAnd this movie is darker than you think...
the art is really good, what happened to foxy is something that you don't really process as a kid but when you're older you look back and realize how horrible it was
ikr? the art is accurate to her design, but it feels more grounded without the super exaggerated proportions of the movie’s art style
This flew over my head as a kid, but coming back to it, it's scary how bad the town and their folks are
One town panic and they bully a little kid to the point of making a movie on the whole incident. Yeah, it was messed up but did it really warrant that? And the ensuing mass panic and destruction in its wake. Even if there was nothing to worry about that day, there was now in the aftermath
Buck Cluck couldn't even be bothered to help his kid or even be supportive when he tries to make amends
But Foxy? There's a reason lobotomy is called the worst medical procedure in history, you're not just drilling a hole into someone's head, you're scrambling their whole mind. She was a bully but she didn't deserve what happened to her. She got her team to the finals, she tried to comfort Buck when they thought Chicken had another incident, and when the town was being invaded, she stood up to defend. And...they left her with a complete personality shift and broken mind, just because a guy liked her in this new way. The aliens said they could put her back, but they just left her that way. I can see why they made Runt a pig.
Is she even in there anymore?
If you look closely, you can see tear tracks in her makeup. Maybe she's still fighting, and scared her body won't cooperate with her
Yeah I noticed, that too. The art does seem to show her in a panicked/desperate light
Even the alien that told what happened thought the fact he wanted her as is was scary, literally saying scary before leaving even though THEY were the one's who accidentally scrambled her brains too much
@@hip3640notice it was accidental...RUNT MADE HER STAY THAT WAY ON PURPOSE
I'm sorry Foxy Loxy. You did not deserve to be lobotomized. When i was a kid, i laughed at you for "getting what you deserve".
Now as a man, i cried because now i understand that being stripped of yourself is equal to dead.
That’s just messed up, man.😰
I guess now that I think about it, it was kinda messed up for them to just leave her that way.
Yeah, she was not in a right state of mind, and ended up with the pig character. Putting in a relationship she had no real interest in.
But she got what was coming to her so who knows.
@@Ludi_Chris While her bullying got pretty extreme, she was still a kid. She may not have been a great person, but she was essentially lobotomized and her entire personality was changed without her consent.
And the only reason they didn't fix it, was because someone she didn't really know was attracted to her and said she was 'perfect' after seeing her completely changed personality for 10 seconds.
Proper karma would be having to apologize and make up for her actions, not forcing her to become a different person.
@@ConfusedLemons yeah, but speaking as some who was bullied his whole childhood, nothing is ever enough to me to make bullies pay.
@@Ludi_Chris
If your suffering did not make you better, no amount of suffering of bullies will make them better either. A lobotomy violates human rights, not *good people* rights.
That said, a wise man once said:
As a person part of civil society, I understand that the death penalty is inhumane and an affront on ethics and justice
As an ape with anger synapses,
EDIT: Also there is something deeply fucked up about seeing masculinity as something that needs to be fixed in order for a person to be good, and that their redemption as a girl means to date a guy she had no previous intrest in. Her assholish behaviour is put on the same wrong as her being masculine and not wanting to date a boy- frankly, it appears to equate masculinity with being an asshole, which is deeply concerning for well, the entire human population.
@FinntheFis well I’m a monster a would do it myself.
The implications are very disturbing, I however would be interested in seeing more of this concept.
With all the Disney horror movies that have been coming out. This could literally be a disney horror movie.
This would make a good psychological horror movie! It would kind of be like stepford wives
I once got interested in seeing more of this concept, I don't think I ever recovered after what I saw.
Dont just leave it at the mystery! What was it?@@Doodle128
@@chrimsonphantomTechnically, because Chicken Little is public domain, someone _could_ go ahead and already do this.
I do find it kind of ironic that Foxy got dealt with this fate considering Disney’s track record of mean girl characters a few years later & how a lot of them get redeemed. (Pacifica, Sasha, Amity, the antagonist girl from Raya, etc)
A few? Try about 10 years later. Pacifica didn’t go though her redemption arc until season 2 and then this got a lot more common from them…. Though it’s not like Pacifica was their first exactly, like they did have that one Cinderella sequel. But yeah.
Ha that's how forgettable raya was I see
@@dissonanceparadiddle lmao
The antagonist for raya didn't deseeve forgiveness
@@dissonanceparadiddle I barely remembered anything that happened in that movie, tbh.
IIRC, didn't the aliens say they could put her back to normal, but because one random kid said, "no," they just back off?
If I'm not mistaken, it's the pig in the back here
So much for being an advanced alien race lol
It was runt
No
Yeah.
3:32 it almost sounds like she’s starting to take control of her body again just long enough to try to run away and take back her life
I was just playing with my imagination in an "animation" where that happens, she regains consciousness and when trying to escape she is only stopped by a phrase that makes her return to whoever Whatever it may be.
I don't know if you covered her in your other Chicken Little videos, but I always felt so creeped out that Runt actively chose to keep her brain as mush and NO ONE stopped him. Not a single adult told that little incel that he couldn't choose for Foxy whether her brain was scrambled eggs or not.
Not is incel, is chad 🗿
@@ohhombrehermoso3955 he gave her a lobotomy 💀
@@ohhombrehermoso3955 pepe pfp checks out
@@mewo-rz6fgnice redson pfp
@@mewo-rz6fghe didn't give Loxy a lobotomy, those were the aliens. And if I'm not wrong, she also bullied Runt, he wasn't thinking about the implications of a lobotomy, he just focused on he fact that she'd no longer bully him
On top of this: The movie had the lesson of never trusting anyone, even your family, because they might turn on you if you say something they don't like.
To be fair, that lesson is relevant with today's political landscape.
@@armayafox2254 Your folks turn on each other for disagreeing with politics?
The song is great, and i like the subtle details that show that the "perfect" version with her isn't happy with herself, like how it looks like shes been crying or how she has what looks like one part of a handcuff on her wrist, showing thats shes trapped the way she is because of Runt
Someone pointed out the cuff on her wrist, which seems to be the handle of the umbrella she was holding. But yeah it does seem to look like it's trapping her
I love how despite the initial happy tone of the song it also conveys a feeling of insecurity, desperation and even fear.
The low notes really be putting in the work fr
I could see a horror game based around this concept daytime she’s her “perfect self” serving runt at night she wakes up in a cell and has break out while hiding from runt but she can find bats and pans to stun the psychotic piece of pork in the best ending she calls the cops on runt and gets her mind fixed but just in case she sets up some defenses with chicken littles help if he somehow gets out assuming he’s not killed for his crimes
i really like this idea! maybe the night portions, it occurs in her mind as she tries to break free of the 'perfect' personality? and since it's in the mind and not based in reality, it can be a lot more warped and nightmarish? just an idea!
@@threebeanmaraca that is a lot better than my idea I’m using it now thanks
The idea of a Fox (predator) being held captive by a Pig (prey) is actually a very interesting game idea
This could be worthy of a Puppet Combo-esque visual style and everything :0
Y qué tal que conforme avanzará el juego se mostrará más y más a profundidad su Lore? Cómo si recordara del presente al pasado y finalmente recordando lo que alguna vez fue realmente?
I saw this movie once when it came out and remember almost nothing from it. EXCEPT THIS! It haunts me how messed up it was they were just like, "yeah! leave her like this! The pig is happy!" So its nice to see it reflected elsewhere and with good music!
She was a bully who made every other character miserable so I kinda get their reasoning but it’s definitely messed up to they overrided her mind.
@@Nightman221k
There’s better ways to deal with bullies than entirely wiping their personality. And it’s not about helping the victim and giving them support, it’s about using it as a good reasoning to hurt and *erase* an individual, because you can break all sorts of ethics if you can find something about your victim that revokes the empathy people would have, because people operate on feeling instead of actual morals and ethics that they are aware of and stick to.
It’s a kids movie wokian!
@@Nightman221kstop being woke! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@scholartheterminator94 Cry harder~
Honestly despite the disturbing context, I love the way you designed Foxy Loxy, infinitely better than how she looked in the movie
It astounds me that Disney has characters end up having messed up endings like this, but pass it off as okay for the sake of a joke or they didn't think it through. Was Foxy a jerk who deserved consequences for her actions? Yes, but this is disproportionate retribution, especially for a child. By that same Foxy logic, Chicken Little should've allied with the aliens and had his whole town purged at the end for how they treated him. Disney does something similar in their Descendants franchise, the main character Mal makes cookies laced with love potion and gives it to the boyfriend of the 'mean girl' Audrey, he then publicly breaks up with her in front of everyone through song. But when they go swimming he's cured due to magic river, yet stays with Mal and doesn't bother explaining the situation with Audrey, she ends up finding out anyway. Mal is rewarded for her literal crimes, yet Audrey is treated like trash for bringing it up, her crash out later on is justified even if it wasn't executed well.
I forgot that happened in descendants lol, although I do remember the relationship just coming out of nowhere when the potion wore off. Looking back it makes sense why she would be so upset
BE QUIET WOKE! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@scholartheterminator94 Be smart.
Not that you can even punctuate properly...
I think the main difference is in the end HE chose to stay with her, while Foxy can't. She doesn't get that choice
In the original she was a…murderer. But here she’s a gosh darn middle school bully.
[Edit: Due to the support this idea received, I went ahead and made a more fleshed-out description for the visual narration along with a full set of lyrics. Due to the size, it's in a google doc, which is now linked in a new comment.]
[Edit 2: When I posted the link, the new post was deleted so you'll have to go to a community post on my channel to get the link. By no means am I a content creator. I'm not looking for a lot of subscribers or anything. I just got inspired by this song and thumbnail art and wanted to express myself with other creative minds in this comment section.]
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So this is just my take on what you’d see in a music video of this song as well as what the lyrics would involve. The music and the thumbnail really got me thinking so I rushed this out in about an hour and a half. I’m sure there are spots that could be improved but the whole idea of actually addressing the horrific warcrime that was done to Foxy in particular just sounds like a great story in of itself. Considering how terrible everyone is in Chicken Little, and how Foxy’s the only one who gets this terrible treatment, this feels cathartic in actually pointing out how terrifying it would be.
By *NO MEANS* am I guilting the creator into using my ideas here or my lyrics if they ever choose to include lyrics in the future. I just got inspired by it all so this is what I got.
[0:00-0:17]
A classic introductory bit to Foxy Loxy in her post-brain-scramble form, greeting the day as she dances around her house and family members, who are still having trouble adjusting to her peppy, harmless personality.
[0:17-0:34]
Foxy heads out to the town, greeting people and performing kind little gestures as she goes. She gets to the bus stop to school and once on the bus, everyone is sitting opposite from her except for Runt, who sits next to her (or maybe in front of her while she leans forward to more closer to him given his size).
I can basically hear the lyrics with this repeated section specifically. It would go something like…
“Per-fect, oh-so happy, no mean bone in my body
Per-fect, don’t you worry, you’re safe while alongside me
And I’ll ne-ver stop be-ing this way…”
[0:35-0:50]
Foxy arrives at school where she continues prancing about without a care in the world. She introduces some of the other students, most notably her old cohort, Goosey Loosey, who looks especially distraught and even fearful at Foxy’s behavior Chicken Little, Ugly Duckling, and Fish-out-of-Water get shown, with expressions varying from amused to disturbed. But then comes Runt for last as he slides over to join Foxy.
[0:51-1:07]
Foxy goes through various school activities alongside Runt with a romantic lens: pushing each other on the swings, eating together at the cafeteria, and throwing paper airplane notes to each other during class. But always in the background is Goosey, still looking horrified. And at the end, Foxy catches sight of a baseball bat in the corner of the baseball field.
The lyrics this time around would be…
“Per-fect, as they want me, a joyful lo-bot-om-y
Per-fect, as they need me, as long as we’re all happy
Af-ter all it’s for the grea-ter good…”
[1:08-1:32]
A flashback plays of the old Foxy Loxy, the beloved school bully who was a star athlete. The lyrics would talk about how terrible old Foxy was for tormenting the outcasts and nerds but occasionally, a lyric or two would slip out how no one seemed to care or condemn her. There’d be lyrics around the 1:25-1:29 mark questioning if “this it’s really fair”.
The last couple of notes would bring us back to current Foxy with the lyrics: “But I guess it doesn’t matter.”
[1:33-1:49]
The narrator changes from Foxy herself to the observing citizens: commenting on her good deeds and pleasant personality. They talk about how she’s much more of a model citizen, showing the town’s best qualities with her selflessness and love.
[1:49-2:05]
The townsfolk continue narrating as Foxy’s bouncy walk is wilting a bit as she passes various shops. The big, plastic smile is still there but as she sees her reflection in a window, a tear stars crawling down her face.
The mayor notices Foxy’s makeup starting to run and waves her over. She skips over with the same plastic smile as he escorts her toward city hall.
“Per-fect, is she crying? I think her mood is slipping
Per-fect, make-up smearing. May need re-make-up-plying
Af-ter all don’t you want to be good…?”
[2:06-2:30]
This second three-part section of the song shows the aliens from Chicken Little when they started invading the planet. We see old Foxy fighting them only to get teleported and her mind shattered. Her old self watches the new self walk ahead of her into a light. The light is panned into as it returns to present day where new Foxy is being led to a special brain-altering room. The mayor places a call as one of the aliens arrives on the planet.
As this goes on, new Foxy looks about the room she’s being led into, still smiling but her body movement shows her reluctance and the lyrics would include bits like, “Was I really so much worse than you?” and “Don’t you think that you deserve this too?”
[2:31-2:46]
Foxy is placed on a mad scientist operating table as the mayor and alien prepare to give her new personality a tune-up. They both sing about the importance of putting on a good face and how they can’t have “bad acorns” running around anymore. They claim to be a different, more loving town and Foxy is their crown gem.
[2:46-3:00]
The song turns into a back-and-forth between Foxy and the Mayor, with Foxy saying how many in the town were worse than she was but the mayor says an example needs to be made. Foxy’s new personality is cracking more and more as the machine zaps her with the intent of a hard reset to silence the old persona.
[3:01-3:14]
The machine ends up waking up Foxy’s old self as a fluke but she’s severely damaged still. She breaks out, attacking the mayor before fleeing from town hall. In a mad craze, she terrifies the townsfolk while running back toward the school. And as she runs, she sees some of them have the same wide smiles. She sees the aliens hiding in plain sight over buildings, monitoring. She grabs the bat she saw earlier.
[3:15-3:30]
Foxy starts attacking anyone with a smile in her now torn-up clothes. She beats on some of the aliens trying to stop her but can’t do much damage to their suits. She still manages to create quite a mess and is too fast to get captured in this feral state. But then she sees Goosey again, looking terrified at not just Foxy but the police state the town is in with the aliens out and in full force again.
Foxy has her bat out, ready to strike Goosey but she hesitates just in time for Runt to tackle her to the ground
[3:31-3:43]
We see the town being rapidly repaired and those who were injured being brought into City Hall where their memories are altered. Everything is a blur as the days quickly pass until reaching when all the repairs are completed, as if nothing happened.
[3:43-end]
We see all the people throughout the town who got the lobotomy, wearing the same plastic smile and some even dressed similarly to Foxy. The Chicken Little crew join Goosey in being disturbed by it all now, except for Runt, who stands proud as a “model citizen”. The end shows Foxy bursting out of City Hall with her outfit and makeup fixed. She resumes prancing about happily as the song closes out.
The final lyrics are rapid.
“Per-fect, ev-ry-bo-dy, a friendly so-ci-e-ty
Per-fect, without worry, our joyful lo-bot-om-y
Just ad-mit it’s all bet-ter this way…
Our plea-sant per-fect so-ci-e-ty”
This is amazing story telling 👍
@@Cesar-w8v Hey, I saw that you had more in your initial reply concerning the mayor and the aliens. Your comment looked perfectly respectful so please don't feel discouraged to share constructive criticism. After all, I made the original post in just an hour and a half so there's 100% stuff that could be improved. And besides, if the creator sees this thread, the more the merrier for discussion to give them more ideas.
Regardless of if you choose to let me know your critiques, I really appreciate your kind words.
@@TrisStrudel yea my bad I read my comment and for me it sounded rude, I was just stating on how the Mayor in the film didn't really care about the town people and was more of a figure, in the town that wasn't really cared about. And the aliens weren't evil, I just think in my opinion, that Runt the pig should have more of a role as he was the main reason why Foxy ended that way and he basically ruined her life.
@@Cesar-w8v I think that's totally fair. If I were to spend a longer chunk of time on this--maybe writing out full lyrics--I'd definitely put Runt in more of it and have him be more directly involved.
With the mayor and the aliens, that was more just a sort of twisted future kind of approach, kind of just expanding on how what happened to Foxy could be expanded to anyone else.
Maybe instead of the mayor directly being involved, Runt could be the one bringing Foxy over for some kind of reexamination. That would definitely be more personal.
Pretty awesome
I find this one piece of art more compelling than the entire movie.
as a kid I was disturbed by what happened to her, I acted just like her as a kid, she was my favorite because I was an unapologetically annoying kid, I was horrified of this movie because of how she ended up, I remember I started acting worse and being cruel to other kids as opposed to just being annoying as I was before because I was scared to lose myself and end up like her
Well ... Gues the writters thought "oh wait we can't let the Bully going impune this will be a bad lesson to kids"... as if lobotomize A LITERAL KID was a good lesson like "woho don't be mean or you will end up like her" ... I always thought that this movie was wierd but man that's just so messed up (if i write sothing wrong im Sorry my native language isn't english )
Remember the 1943 disney chicken little where foxy loxie eats the whole town and there's a wishbone cemetery? Where the ending is literally the narrorator going "thats not how this ends!" And the fox going "not in my book."? Chicken little was always a horror film.
You just brought back so many memories
At least this version of her is happy for real
I like that version better
I mean yea, now that i think about it, she literally had her mind completly replaced, just because she was a bully and people "liked her better that way". That's like giving someone death by firing squad for stealing a pack of gum. This wasn't some horror film, this was Chicken Little. That's messed up.
"this wasn't some horror film, this was Chicken Little." That sentence goes hard
The "perfect" Foxy Loxy looks like she was crying. Her mascara is running down her face, possibly showing that the real Foxy Loxy is still in there and is struggling to let herself out.
Just like how everything about her ending is fucked up, i just realized she, or at least her true self, didn't consent to being the pig's girlfriend.
I like the fact that this song has an uncanny feeling to it, like it comes off as too cheery, and almost fake. And it has that creeping sense of something being wrong.
The world was pink, to pink. She hated pink, why is there pink everywhere? Where was she? She looked down at her hands..was that a parasol? When did she get that? She hates that kinda stuff, her body was moving, dancing it seemed but...she didnt want to dance, she didnt want to sing any of these corny lyrics coming out of her mouth. The last thing she saw was those...things, aliens? Ripping open apart the sky and everyone scattering, her parents were gone and she was alone. She always hated being alone, but she was only alone for a few minutes, a few agonizing minutes of running through the streets of her town with everyone screaming around her. Was this the end of the world? And then...she was gone...and then the world was pink. What was his name? Bunt? Grunt? She didn't care, she never cared, all she knew is he was a loser...but he was everywhere she went, and wherever he went for some reason she was forced to follow. She despised him, he thought she was perfect, every time she heard him call her perfect now she wanted to cry, run, scream, go home and escape this house of madness. But what she did instead every time was smile and do a curtsey, they hurt, but at least she felt something. The pain of dancing and singing and curtseying all the time for ages on end for him simply because he found it entertaining was driving her insane, with each step she felt an electric shock travel up her leg into the rest of her body making her want to fall and break like china. But she couldn't. If he said dance with me, she danced, if he said do a duet with me, she sang a the duet in a forced soprano sing songy voice. Even when she was home, with her family, she couldn't stop herself from being...whatever she was now, who even was she? Foxy Loxy is gone after all, she cant even talk, she can barely think, they should just rename her and make a tombstone for the girl she used to be. Her family couldnt look at her, and when they did they would sigh and go back to doing what they were doing. She had stared at her previous trophies for who knows how long, it wasnt much, but the trophies brought back memories, good ones. Memories of roughhousing and playing in the dirt, tackling her friends, throwing dogballs at the “unpopular” as the couch had put it. She missed baseball the most out of any sport, it was her favorite, both she and her family would go out to the baseball field to practice once a week since she was a kit...but she couldn't play baseball anymore, anytime she had dirt even on her shed audibly gasp and run to the bathroom to clean it off her frilly pink dress. God did she hate frills, but most of all she hated pink. Those memories, the happy ones, were keeping her sane she thought, even if they wernt, they were keeping her there...she didnt know if she wanted to be there anymore, she was watching her life be runover by some prissy pansy everyone thought was her...but it was her, she knew her mind was probably ruined at this point, her thoughts were becoming filled with bubbles and pink goey musicals she didnt care about. How long has her body been staring at these trophies? when did she start crying? Why is she smiling? Smiling so much it hurts but she cant stop crying, why wont it just stop? Why cant she go out and play anymore? Who was she? Who did this to her? Why is everyone ok with this? Why wont this just stop? Just stop…just stop just stopjuststopJUSTSTOPJUSTSTOP.
She had always hated pink, and now her mind was full of the dreadful color.
ive only seen the nostalgia critic review it so i made a lot of assumptions of her character besides the little ive seen so sorry if theres anything wrong
Deep. Very deep. Poor Foxy.
I’m gonna have nightmares.
Take my like.
It’s very strange, since in the Brazilian dubbing, her name is literally Pink Fox, something that sounds kinda ironic.
@@joaozin-o9x Really?
Funny thing about writing: sometimes changing one small scene can greatly improve or ruin a story.
In Foxy Loxy’s case, changing this scene to simply having her apologize to Chicken Little=Improvement
At the same time because everyone is realizing the real tragedy of her date we could get many fan made stories based off of different thoughts and perspectives of her and potentially the people around her's struggle with her mind having been scrambled,and perhaps a deserved true good ending with her on the mend,its a opportunity to create unhinged stories and I can't wait to see them
Yes. Although, if that happened, we wouldn't have gotten this awesome music! If her story ended happily, nobody here would be talking about her. This nightmarish writing choice has become the most fun thing about the film for a lot of people. Endless fanfiction ammo.
It's quite funny to think that someone who hasn't watched Chicken Little or who hasn't remembered the ending scene would think this is some AU or something
Yup. This is exactly what happens in the movie 💀
I genuinely want a horror video game where she’s the protagonist
Y’all getting me into Chicken Little I’m lowkey kinda mad about it lol
this has given me the idea of a fanfiction that has her slowly break away from her mental prison, maybe with the help of some chicken little and his friends excluding the pig (I forget his name) starting to think "ya know thats minda messed up".
just to add onto the horror
*age em up*
*make it a few years later, and she's only now starting to recover her mind*
Im no where near good enough of a writer to make this, but if anyone sees this and decides to write it, let me know Id love to read it.
i wouldn't be surprised if someone, or multiple someones, wrote fanfic based on this concept. i mean, the movie came out in 2005, there has to at least be a couple of fanfics or other fan works written and made over the past 19 years.
@@threebeanmaracaSi es así, marcaré checkpoint xD
I would try, but I also am kinda bad.
I feel so bad for Foxy Loxy, she kind of ended up becoming my favorite character because of how unlucky she was😭
It’s a little sad that Disney made the writers change the original script for Chicken little. Chicken Little was actually suppose to be a girl named Henny Penny who had an overactive imagination (think those shadows in the closet look like a monster). She goes to a summer camp where all the counsolers are wolves in sheep’s clothing but no one believes her. The entire story got rewritten because the CEO was sexist. He believed girls would see a movie with a boy protagonists but boys wouldn’t see a movie with a girl protagonist. Says the guy who runs the princess franchise.
That could make for a deep compelling story that could read by adults on many levels…or make for a kickass horror game.
@@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 See, that original story would've been a great metaphor for child molestation and resonated with a lot of kids but instead they did whatever this is.
Agreed
To be fair , he was 100% correct.
The version where Chicken Little was a girl also had a lot more heart. Buck wasn't inherently awful, he was just not getting a lot of sleep due to being woken up every night because of his daughter's nightmares which causes him to lash out saying that he wishes he had a normal child while he thinks his daughter isn't around. He's also called out on his bs by his wife who was alive in that draft giving another perspective on Little's behavior (rather than just being the dead mom trope and her loss being used as an excuse for Buck's crappy father behavior) and he apologizes to his daughter that very same night.
Father-daughter relationships were and still kind of are pretty underexplored, especially a struggle like this where the daughter is the weird anxious kid while the father just wants a normal happy family life. At the time it came out, it really could have been something special, but no, clearly the story needed more aliens, baseball and mean-spirited humor.
I like how Runt is universally agreed to be a villain, he looks so menacing in the art here.
I just realized the “perfect” version of her has her carousel on her arm. But since I can’t see the whole thing I thought that was just a chain or something.
10/10 would terrify me again
I never realized this, but after reading the comments, Chicken Little was horrific. She was lobotomized, the town gangs up on Chicken Little and planned on making him into a movie just to torment him, and had a neglectful father. Jesus Christ...
As a kid, the alien invasion was nightmare fuel until the jokes atrted coming.
@@elcalabozodelandroide2 Yeah...
To quoted Doug Walker
“HA! The little girl her parents raised is dead, but SHOWTUNES!”
I'm honestly glad that this has been talked about. That scene never set right with me as a kid. Especially, how they allowed another kid to decide to leave her lobotomized.
Me, too. I know Foxy is the main antagonist, but I still felt bad for her.
This perfectly reminds us of who the real villain is in this picture. 🐷
I like to think that when the pig grows up he realizes what he had done and is full of great regret
Love how the umbrella handle looks more like a handcuff shackled to the ground
This song has so many layers, the main melody may represent her true persona, trapped and lamenting her fate, and the childish xylophone tune in the background is her new distorted persona, the inside is being externalized in the wrong way.
and the fact that he willingly had them keep her like that was disturbing and can we imagine what her parents went through when they found out he made the aliens keep her like that? imagine if they were older and she had a boyfriend or girlfriend only for said person to learn their love is forever gone because of One selfish pigs choice.
Ppl are like - "she deserved it!" but I'm like... What about her parents? 🙁
I bet the parents were not happy at all that their daughter is gone replace by this girl who isn't there anymore and the father was pissed off that the town and that pig were OK with this that she got lobotomy and they just replace by new kid that isn't their daughter anymore just a braindead zombie
Wow her dad would rightly pissed like imagining find out that your child the one you look after was captured by aliens and got lobotomy and they kept her like that a lot of anger and tears, fighting
(I headcanon that foxy loxy mom died so that why she bullies the gang)
(LONG RANT WARNING) I think the worst part about this is like what about her parents??? Imagine not knowing your daughter was abducted by aliens during an alien attack, not knowing where she was and fearing for her safety but after the invasion she came back a totally different person, came back as someone you certainly didn't raise, losing who you loved and cherished from the day she was born, just gone, mind wiped all because a selfish and stupid pig saying no to the alien, that was ALSO thinking it was scary of the pig to just decide this on a whim so quickly, literally saying scary before leaving in a hurry, turning her back to who she was
She even had a close friend, goosey loosey, there could even be a possibility that foxy roxy lost parts of her memories, even the memories of her close friends, so just imagine losing your friend all because someone didn't want her to turn back to normal
Coming this Fall to Disney Home Entertainment
It's been twenty years since the sky fell at Oaky Oaks, and everything has been fine in this small, quaint community. Away from the hustle and bustle of the city, this is a place you really get to know your neighbors... at least you think so.
When a series of mysterious disappearances shook the town, nobody has any idea who it could be... except Chicken Little.
"I think whatever the aliens did to her is wearing off!"
But how could he suspect the wife of his best friend is behind this? She's so sweet... so bubbly... so kind. She couldn't hurt a fly...
"The old Foxy is coming back, and I don't think she's happy about what we did!"
She always makes sure her husband Runt has the best dinner ready for him when he comes home... though nobody remembers seeing her at the butcher's lately.
Cuts to Foxy Loxy preparing a meat pie with a cleaver nearby.
"She's going after us one by one! First Goosey Loosey, and then Fish Out of Water! Who's next?!"
Tom Turkey, scrambling in his office for his life, as the shadowy outline of Foxy looms over him with a cleaver in hand.
Chicken Little 2: Foxy Loxy's Revenge.
"Oh lollipop! Teehee!"
Rated R
WE NEED THIS!!!
Man, I did not even remotely remember that part of the movie until I clicked on this out of morbid curiosity of what a Chicken Little fan song would sound like.
This is actually really cool . I also like how her parasol end resembles shackles
Loving the fact that people are finally talking about how screwed up this is. I mean, her parents didn’t even get a say in what happened.
I like how her little umbrella handle is drawn almost like a rope shackled to her wrist.
As a kid who was bullied a lot, i used to think Loxy got what she deserved and i was happy that she no longer was a bully. Now i'm honestly disturbed, she wasn't as bad as the rest of the town yet she got the worst fate of them all
The song is amazing, even without lyrics, the instrumental by itself already tells the story in a clever way
As a kid my dad highkey tried doing the same thing to me through abuse so I didn't have the "this is horrific" reaction everyone else mentions having.. but as an adult?? Even the 5 seconds of her blinking for help during the end credits scene is terrifying. Imagine being a prisoner like that, for no valid reason.
Sorry if I don’t understand but he tried to give you a lobotomy or he tried to change who you are as a person?
Ok so let me get this straight. Foxy was held captive by aliens, and while being released her brain was rewired into making her a more girly version of herself. It didn’t just change her personality, but literally her whole psyche. She has lost all memory of her life and is suddenly reborn into this new person.
Oh god. At first I thought people were over exaggerating, but now actually thinking about it, that’s pretty scary.
This is an interesting bit of fridge horror, because most of us watching the movie as kids had no concept of lobotomies or how devastating they are.
Most of also didn’t know a lot about SA or the fact that some people (like children, intoxicated people, and lobotomy victims) cannot give consent.
So even if it felt a little uncomfortable to see Foxy stay completely changed in order to be some guy’s dream GF, the actual gut punch requires a teen/adult level of education to feel.
I want to compliment the artist
Foxy's original self looks terrified as does her new self ( even though she has a smile on her face ) and Runt's grin looks quite sinister
When I clicked on the fan song about the Fox bully from Chicken Little called joyful lobotomy I was not expecting it to have a funky beat.