I never knew Force Push stacked Combat Multipliers off of corpses I'll have to try that out later. That's what I love about the first Fable, I've played through it dozens if not over a hundred times throughout my life and still learning more about it each time.
23:00 another reason to love slow time. You can cast slow time and physical shield at the same time and game won't notice that you've used physical shield. You can do a whole quest with physical shield on and still get the naked boast. :)
Most of the spells I used were just because they were fun and for variety. Physical shield, multi-strike, berserk, assassin rush, and multi-arrow are probably enough to steamroll the entire game.
Assassin Rush is super useful. It transports you behind an enemy so you can attack them from behind where they can't block. It's also great for avoiding attacks.
I found Assassin Rush to be useful at lower levels; it lets you get to an enemies back, and when you attack from the back, you can get a lot more hits in before they turn around and block or counter-attack due to the stun-lock animation. Thats pretty useful when you dont have the dmg you get later on between stronger weapons+Berserk+multi hit
@@ethosterros9430 Personally I liked Fable 3 more than Fable 2. Fable 2 had the nostalgic feeling of being a sequel to the first, which is my favorite, but the third game felt like it perfected some of those mechanics and I genuinely appreciated what they did with the game even if the majority of people think it's subpar. Fable TLC (pre-anniversary) is still my favorite game to play, Anniversary did a damn good job of keeping the aesthetic of the game and the feel of it but it doesn't quite match the original Xbox version. I can't wait for the new one because it's a new studio, new hero, new storyline, new everything. It might be bad, it might be good, right now my gut is telling me it's going to be bad because of the trend of bad games lately, not because it's a sequel. But the team behind the game has done some amazing work with Forza and Microsoft trusted them enough with the IP so they must have impressed someone. Whether they will impress the fan base is a completely different story. Fable one was great, Fable 2 took on that and expanded it and Fable 3 basically just perfected the mechanics of Fable 2 and changed the experience system. This Fable could potentially be it's own brand new thing, separate but still a part of the Fable game series. Bioshock Infinite springs to mind. I hated the idea of that game but when it was released I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed the game. I'm hoping they can do the same here. Even though it's different, hopefully it will be better than the games before it. Bioshock 1 and 2 were great but the story of Infinite made the experience just that much better for me.
@@TheRamijuan I remember being like 10 or 11 and getting Fable with my first Xbox. I thought the game was boring and annoying so I didn't play it. I go over to my friend's house who just bought TLC and I'm watching him play and I see how much fun the game actually is and I got super excited to get home and finally play the game. I didn't put it down for months. I owned two games, Fable and Halo and I played Fable more than Halo. I remember hearing a rumor at school about how you can get the sword from the very beginning you just have to buy summon and assassin's rush and that was it. I, of course, thought it was just playground rumors like the truck in Pokemon Yellow or naked Lara Croft. A few months ago a video popped up about glitches within Fable and sure enough it's a real thing. I was told about it when I was 11, I didn't believe it until I was 29...
Assassin rush is really good for actual combat, it not only provides a few invincibility frames but always prefers to put you behind the target, very good for fighting human enemies, of course most everyone is always gonne be running physical shield but it gets boring to me so I like to take it off and use assassin rush, blocking in this game is pretty tricky but perhaps skill issue 😳
Summon takes a knock for me for one reason only; the way "minion quality" works. I wish you had a separate menu or a scroll wheel based system where you can choose what minion you want to summon, and not have it based on what killed what. This is especially true of the white balverine which is arguably the strongest minion you can summon, but is, quality wise, flagged as worse than Jack's two minion bros, so you can potentially lose your mini boss companion if it kills a Jack minion and swaps.
True - I have always wanted to keep balverine as my pet but there is impossible because in late game minions are most common enemies. Nice option also would be possiblity to have 2 weaker summons - for example 2 classic balverines not white
Imagine being so confidently incorrect. Minions have good offense and defense as opposed to great offense and zero defense of white balverines. They can easily get stun locked by late game enemies and run the clock on your summon. Dreadwings are just more consistent.
For me lightning is in S tier only because by switching targets constantly you can essentially lock multiple enemies in place while you drain their health, this way lightning even gets to deal damage more often to each individual target as it does it every time you lock onto someone rather than the second or so it takes for it to hit when you're just maintaining it. Great video btw! I love to see Fable getting some love even to this day.
Honestly, I would argue that enflame is the best spell in game. It's DPS is just insanely high, even when compared to other spells, like Infernal Wrath and Divine Fury. This is because I can cast Enflame like 7-10 times in the time it takes to cast Wrath/Fury even once, almost tripling or even quintupling the overall damage. Additionally, most enemies go down in 1-2 hits of Enflame, meaning its a much better use of my time. Even minions and higher health enemies still go down with Enflame castings faster than a single wrath/fury. The only downside to spamming enflame is the mana usage is really high. If you're worried about animation canceling (an upside of wrath/fury) just pair enflame with slow time and it won't matter.
animation cancelling has more to do with scripted boss fights than anything Slow time is nice, but also inherently makes the game and battles slower/take longer And casting it at the wrong time could mean having slow time active during a long animation, and making the animation drag out longer. Enflame is definitely better for DPS but being able to completely lock up certain enemies, and sometimes even skip invincibility frames/scripted animations, is still useful
An other tipp. If you are going to the north where the undead summons just before the prison tunnels, there is 4 undead and they are always respawn immediately. In half an hour, I made 1 million XP with maxed enflame 😅
@@PTMG I'm late but I came down to basically comment the same thing, bringing special attention to the point about being stuck in place for the Wrath/Fury animation. In my earliest magic-focused playthroughs, getting Wrath/Fury was my goal because it seemed like the best thing, but sitting through that lengthy animation every single time eventually turned from being empowering to being kind of a slog because of how many large groups of enemies you come across in the game. Once I discovered the power of enflame I ended up using it to trivialize 99% of the game while taking probably less than half the time to defeat all the enemies in an area as Wrath/Fury (this fact becoming most apparent to me in the arena. I've never cleared it so fast as with enflame). No need for stunlocks or slow time or defensive shields or anything like that when the whole room is dead in a couple seconds before they can really do anything. And a lot of the other spells are of course still very useful. I've played a build focused on around a bunch of them and had fun with it. But for pure power fantasy and dps, nothing beats enflame, it's the best one if you're a pure offensive spellcaster. The one exception is with the boss/strong enemy thing. It's been a good long while since I played but if there's one place where wrath/fury might be better, that could be it. I can't remember if I found it easier to spam enflame on bosses because my casting of Wrath/Fury would get interrupted, or if it was maybe the other way around or something. I also think it's a bit of awkward design to have a spell like Wrath/Fury that's clearly meant for large groups of enemies in an area but is actually outdone by a less prestigious spell like enflame on that front while actually being better for bosses, aka usually a single target situation. Nice video btw and love the game. I'm here after watching Erik McSwain's retrospective of Fable where he said you couldn't really be a pure caster in Fable. I had to make sure I wasn't crazy about remembering magic being very strong and a pure caster usable (that's a good video too, no hate!).
Some details ... The greatest damage can be caused by the sword + multi-hit + berserk and hail + bow bundles. Sometimes it is more than 2000-3000 hp. But only for one goal. Pure combat magic often attacks several enemies at once, but the damage for each is usually no higher than 1000 hp. Therefore, it is more profitable to use pure magic against ordinary enemies. Of which there are many, but they have no more than 2000 hp. And against rare but especially strong ones, it is more profitable to use hail, multi-hit and berserk. The fireball directly kills only one enemy. The rest are struck by a shock wave and experience is not given for them. A hail of arrows can be repelled by bosses. Berserk or frozen time action is interrupted during scenes. The damage from most combat magic is different for different enemies. Sometimes it is raised, sometimes it is lowered. And only the wrath of the underworld / fury of the heavens will always cause permanent damage. Regardless of their protection. The Renegade does no damage but can bind an endless attack from enemies. For example, the dead in the cemetery.
Yeah one of my favorite things about infernal wrath is that it always does its max damage, which makes it superb for boss fights, especially ones that have anti-attack sequences
I agree with the tier list for the most part, however I want to just touch on a little technique/exploit in regards to Lightning you may or may not know about You can switch between multiple targets to get even more cost effective/value out of it, let me elaborate since if you just hold down the spell and never switching targets it has a set damage ticking time but switching between targets rapidly it resets this damage tick timer It's a neat technique/exploit trick that can turn your basic Lightning spell into something quite deadly for clearing out groups of enemies quickly This ofc becomes even stronger the higher level your Lightning Spell is, hope you found this info useful You've earned yourself a Sub
You can freeze the world with berserk and assassin rush by rushing immediately in and out of a loading area. (i.e. Oakvale to Barrow Fields) Pretty cool glitch.
@@PTMG Could be. I did it on the original, hence me saying Idk about TLC or Anniversary. Still a fun glitch all the same! Thankfully, I got Anniversary now so I'll give it a test and reply with the answer.
that only worked on og fable. i did that glitch all the time because you could buy everyone houses without having to kill them but my friend who had tlc couldn't do it
I use assassin rush a ton in combination with multistrike. You can clear groups of enemies like hobbes way faster than multistrike and berserk. I also prefer the instantaneous effect of assassin rush over the charge up and charge down.
@@PTMG No, it just guarantees that you end up behind the enemy and within melee range. The distance you can cover at max level makes it very versatile. It also stops most enemies from being able to block.
I feel when used properly Battle Charge gives you full control of the battlefield. Takes a little practice but it’s a very fun play style when nailed down.
I just stopped the video to comment about not putting Multi strike in S when he literally only says positive stuff about it but said only 2 things about enflame that makes no sense. My man it's S just by the way you describing it in the video plus it scales with your weapons it's pretty good scaling.
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Wish that fable 2 and 3 would have stuck with the same spell system as tlc/anniversary, it felt so good to have such variety and the effects were brilliant, 2 and 3 spells were boring in comparison
The spells I would use, to cheese alignment mechanic, be it for doors, or just tons of exp, was the aoe spells you charge with big circle. Go to graveyard area, with some water and ruins, where undead constantly spawn. Use giant blue glowing aoe, reap the exp but also alignment points. Then use the red version on guards in the heroes guild on guards, a bit slower with exp, but good way to get quick alignment for evil.
Another thing about lightning it should be S tier because when it does the animation where it decapitates a target as it does the animation if you flick to another mob it'll insta kill them too so when fighting guards bandits ect u can kill 10+ in a second
I actually really really like assassin rush especially with multiple enemies. I use it as a dodger and to get out of cornered situations and if your locked on, your thrown to the enemies back making hits 100 times easier
Yeah I could definitely see how for some fights it would come in handy, especially people like thunder or maze or whisper who essentially auto block every attack
Whenever I play, I end up using Enflame as it has INSANE damage evasion... Your frames of "invulnerability" are almost unstable. Slow time, and you are op. ...just gotta break the economy and carry impossible amounts of mana potions.
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because both of those are pretty irrelevant XP is too easy to get for XP to be factored in, no one who plays this game is penny pinching their xp and trying to minmax the value of every xp point they spend mana cost is also too arbitrary to factor in. None of them use enough will power to matter, especially not when this game is famous for being able to drip feed potions Maybe you are just bad at fable/bad at evaluating tier lists
@@PTMG you are certainly bad at conversing with people. Maybe some like to not spend that much time and get every xp available at any time or impose challenge on themselves like no potion. I know for a fact that not trying to amass xp beyond what the main quest gives won't get you every skill maxed out. And both multi-strike and multi-arrow are s tiers, and puttin summon and assassin rush there is stupid from your own standards because it gets you swords of eon which is irrelevant to finish the game. Perhaps if you didn't suck at Fable you wouldn't need to glitch ?
"you are certainly bad at conversing with people" >"no cost of xp or mana took in factor. Bad tier list" idk you came in pretty hot writing off my entire tier list as bad for a pretty arbitrary reason that pretty much holds no weight, and wouldn't really change much. You called my tier list bad, I explained why you are bad at evaluating tier lists. I don't even know what you are mad about at this point, none of your argument really makes any sense. Are you mad that I make glitch videos for youtube? You also mention xp from quests which is already going to vary heavily depending on combat multipliers etc. nvm the fact that like 15 minutes at hobbe cave with force push will give you enough xp for every spell in the game basically. and exploits or not I'm pretty sure most people understand the concept of grinding exp in RPG games, and also tend to do so in order to maximize their abilities and progression. It doesn't make sense to factor in cost of exp to these spells because XP is so easy to come by it's an arbitrary cost, and it doesn't make sense to contextualize it with quest XP or anything like that because most people don't play in such a rigid and limiting playstyle, most people will just kill a few bandits or something until they can buy the spell they want. and assassin rush/summon deserve their tier because of how broken they are for exploiting the game. Being able to get sword of aeons early isn't "irrelevant to finish the game" it makes things measurably easier. It is the most powerful light weapon in the game, and in the OG fable it does an absolutely broken 550 damage. Being able to accomplish this with these spells puts them in a tier of their own honestly, they are beyond S tier. You must not watch a lot of my videos if you think I suck at fable. I literally make tutorials for this game lmfao.
@@PTMG "none of your arguments make sense" Posting a comment on a 2 years old video is not conversing. Answer it is. You could make tutorial on how not to act like an a-hole, despise you being a massive one. Just thinking it could be a valid argument shows more about you than anything you could spew. Second by braggin about being good at a game you primarily describe as devoid of any skills required. It's one way or the other dummy
You sure are an asshole for someone who goes around calling people assholes. To recap: You started this Coming in hot being a dick, isn't conversing, it's just being a shitty person and giving shitty critiques that are out of your league. No offense but I know a lot more about this game than you do, your words have much less nuance than you think they do.
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The actual most broken spell is in fact Lightning... Surprised people aren't mentioning this in the comments. When casting and target locking an enemy, continuously swap targets as fast as you can and you'll instantly proc the damage over and over without the regular delay if you're just holding the spell. At that point you're essentially just using a better divine fury and infernal wrath, no other spells not even physical shield can compete as no enemy will ever be able to actually hit you aside from trolls and other bosses that don't get stunned. I don't know if this works with mouse and keyboard, I only use controller when playing fable anniversary to get the same vibes as I did playing the game all those years ago on the OG Xbox. Enjoy furiously flicking your analogue stick from side to side :)
Interesting, I'll have to try target hopping with it I usually have it maxed out so it target hops by itself, but yeah lightning is OP as hell. Not super high damage, but you can basically cast it forever without stopping. And if you have 7 mana augments (3 on bow, 4 on frying pan) you can literally cast it forever.
All spells in Fable are OP, some are just more OP than others. I disagree that Divine Fury and Infernal Wrath are better than inflame: Inflame is better simply because there is no cooldown time and mana is basically inexhaustible. One benefit you are missing regarding lighting is multiplier reservation: it is so instantaneous, long range, unable to miss, and can be used while you walk almost anywhere relative to your enemy that you can cross a map without losing multiplier if an enemy is in the middle of it, because you can hold down lightning as you traverse the distance.
enflame is definitely good, and better as far as damage goes But the ability infernal wrath and divine fury have, to damage enemies and keep them frame locked in a damage sequence when they otherwise shoudln't be, makes it a different level of spell in my book.
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I use assassin rush when fighting rock trolls. I get behind them and cast when they look for me, it keeps them from smashing the ground. Pairing it with multi strike, makes killing trolls easy.
I also like using multi arrow on the scorpion king, just steer clear of him and hold down the attack until you get a good shot, too it can not be blocked.
Ill have to try that on the trolls For the scorpion though, the reason why infernal/divine is nice, is that you can actually skip an entire dig-underground sequence if you time your attacks right and use slow time. You can time it so the infernal/divine pops off right before he starts to dig then it traps him for the duration of your attack. Depending on your timing with slow time, you can hit him a second time in a row after he was supposed to have dug under ground you have to be equally fast the next time he comes up though, because if you damage him below his second dig threshold health level, he will immediately dig down after re surfacing, so you have to catch him with your infernal/divine at just the right time
I discovered something interesting about Divine Wrath and its twin spell. After you finish casting the spell, for the 6.5 seconds of its duration, ranged enemies (those that fire arrows or magic) outside the area of the spell stop attacking and just wait for you to finish. Even more interesting, if a projectile was launched at you before you finished casting the spell, but it reaches you after the spell is activated, it can’t hit you. It gets deflected.
That's wild somehow I never noticed that but it makes sense since yeah you never seem to take damage from anyone anymore once you are in the middle of the spell
Multistrike is S tier because of a feature you either didn't know or forgot to talk about. It goes through enemy block. If there is an enemy that just keeps blocking, just use multistrike to bypass their block making the fight so much faster and allows you to stun lock them.
Slow time is crazy when maxed out. +S tier. Turncoat on the other hand is pointless as there are better spells available that have similar advantages (i.e. ghost blades) and there are few, if any, places where a player gets overwhelmed to a point where they would consider Turncoat as an option. I'd rank it Meme tier
Turncoat was a cool idea when they first made it probably Then they made a bunch of other cool spells that made it stupid idk That's the only explanation I can come up with for why they even added it at all lmfao
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Dude, you put multi-strike to A list? With this spell you can kill almost ANY BOSS with 1 strike if you turn on berserk and have a critical strike set up, as well as a good sword. It is a single most broken damage spell in the game. I killed kraken with 1 strike, I killed that big gladiator guy with 1 strike. It's just so good I don't even know how you put it so low :(
true but I still feel like it needs too much support (berserk, flourish, good weapon) to be effective, to be listed as S tier For most cases other stuff is already good enough, so it really only has use in boss fights For instance I'm not gonna go breserk, and use multistrike when something like enflame will kill half of enemies in 1 or 2 hits (as well as entire groups)
multiple arrows are very broken, I ended up with many bosses with few shots I was with lv5 precision and lv2 multiple arrows... basically I killed the white werewolf with one shot
white balverine is an interesting one actually You don't even need that, you just need to hold your bow drawn at the top of that hill for a few minutes and you will kill him in one hit. The weaker your bow/the lower your accuracy is the longer you need to hold it drawn. You can also hero save (in TLC not anniversary)to get 3 silver augmentations from that quest before fighting the balverine. put all 3 on a master bow and it's a 1 hit kill for white balverines.
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I never knew Force Push stacked Combat Multipliers off of corpses I'll have to try that out later. That's what I love about the first Fable, I've played through it dozens if not over a hundred times throughout my life and still learning more about it each time.
definitely useful for the combat multiplier demon door
Agree, yet as a potential Doctor Who in this universe mostly use Slow Time spell.
lol hero of oakvale is really Dr Who
23:00 another reason to love slow time.
You can cast slow time and physical shield at the same time and game won't notice that you've used physical shield. You can do a whole quest with physical shield on and still get the naked boast. :)
Ah yeah forgot about this
Did that for the entire quest boast playthrough made it a lot easier lmfao
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Most of the spells I used were just because they were fun and for variety.
Physical shield, multi-strike, berserk, assassin rush, and multi-arrow are probably enough to steamroll the entire game.
I can see what you mean by variety
It might be interesting to do a playthrough with only the "shit tier" spells
@@PTMGplaythroughs other than spell shield + enflame spam kek.
Assassin Rush is super useful. It transports you behind an enemy so you can attack them from behind where they can't block. It's also great for avoiding attacks.
I found Assassin Rush to be useful at lower levels; it lets you get to an enemies back, and when you attack from the back, you can get a lot more hits in before they turn around and block or counter-attack due to the stun-lock animation. Thats pretty useful when you dont have the dmg you get later on between stronger weapons+Berserk+multi hit
Yeah I can see that being helpful
enemy blocking in this game gets pretty annoying after a while
Awesome to see some people still making Fable content. Can’t wait for the new Fable game!
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@@ethosterros9430 Personally I liked Fable 3 more than Fable 2. Fable 2 had the nostalgic feeling of being a sequel to the first, which is my favorite, but the third game felt like it perfected some of those mechanics and I genuinely appreciated what they did with the game even if the majority of people think it's subpar. Fable TLC (pre-anniversary) is still my favorite game to play, Anniversary did a damn good job of keeping the aesthetic of the game and the feel of it but it doesn't quite match the original Xbox version. I can't wait for the new one because it's a new studio, new hero, new storyline, new everything. It might be bad, it might be good, right now my gut is telling me it's going to be bad because of the trend of bad games lately, not because it's a sequel. But the team behind the game has done some amazing work with Forza and Microsoft trusted them enough with the IP so they must have impressed someone. Whether they will impress the fan base is a completely different story. Fable one was great, Fable 2 took on that and expanded it and Fable 3 basically just perfected the mechanics of Fable 2 and changed the experience system. This Fable could potentially be it's own brand new thing, separate but still a part of the Fable game series. Bioshock Infinite springs to mind. I hated the idea of that game but when it was released I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed the game. I'm hoping they can do the same here. Even though it's different, hopefully it will be better than the games before it. Bioshock 1 and 2 were great but the story of Infinite made the experience just that much better for me.
@@TheRamijuan I remember being like 10 or 11 and getting Fable with my first Xbox. I thought the game was boring and annoying so I didn't play it. I go over to my friend's house who just bought TLC and I'm watching him play and I see how much fun the game actually is and I got super excited to get home and finally play the game. I didn't put it down for months. I owned two games, Fable and Halo and I played Fable more than Halo. I remember hearing a rumor at school about how you can get the sword from the very beginning you just have to buy summon and assassin's rush and that was it. I, of course, thought it was just playground rumors like the truck in Pokemon Yellow or naked Lara Croft. A few months ago a video popped up about glitches within Fable and sure enough it's a real thing. I was told about it when I was 11, I didn't believe it until I was 29...
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Assassin rush is really good for actual combat, it not only provides a few invincibility frames but always prefers to put you behind the target, very good for fighting human enemies, of course most everyone is always gonne be running physical shield but it gets boring to me so I like to take it off and use assassin rush, blocking in this game is pretty tricky but perhaps skill issue 😳
lol I don't know what's wrong with me but I never use any block button in any video game
Summon takes a knock for me for one reason only; the way "minion quality" works. I wish you had a separate menu or a scroll wheel based system where you can choose what minion you want to summon, and not have it based on what killed what. This is especially true of the white balverine which is arguably the strongest minion you can summon, but is, quality wise, flagged as worse than Jack's two minion bros, so you can potentially lose your mini boss companion if it kills a Jack minion and swaps.
Yeah as a stand alone skill it leaves quite a bit to be desired for sure, but it's glitching potential is way too game changing to go un-noticed
True - I have always wanted to keep balverine as my pet but there is impossible because in late game minions are most common enemies. Nice option also would be possiblity to have 2 weaker summons - for example 2 classic balverines not white
@@williamblack1212 u can just not use the summon in those encounters, this is what I did
@@imonke5303 yeah ofc but later minions are the most common enemies
Imagine being so confidently incorrect. Minions have good offense and defense as opposed to great offense and zero defense of white balverines. They can easily get stun locked by late game enemies and run the clock on your summon. Dreadwings are just more consistent.
For me lightning is in S tier only because by switching targets constantly you can essentially lock multiple enemies in place while you drain their health, this way lightning even gets to deal damage more often to each individual target as it does it every time you lock onto someone rather than the second or so it takes for it to hit when you're just maintaining it. Great video btw! I love to see Fable getting some love even to this day.
lightning is actually kinda OP it kinda just stops enemies from fighting lol
@@PTMG played the arena with only casting lighting strike, no other spell and alot of manapotions. only the golems were able to hit me, like one time.
Honestly, I would argue that enflame is the best spell in game. It's DPS is just insanely high, even when compared to other spells, like Infernal Wrath and Divine Fury. This is because I can cast Enflame like 7-10 times in the time it takes to cast Wrath/Fury even once, almost tripling or even quintupling the overall damage. Additionally, most enemies go down in 1-2 hits of Enflame, meaning its a much better use of my time. Even minions and higher health enemies still go down with Enflame castings faster than a single wrath/fury. The only downside to spamming enflame is the mana usage is really high. If you're worried about animation canceling (an upside of wrath/fury) just pair enflame with slow time and it won't matter.
animation cancelling has more to do with scripted boss fights than anything
Slow time is nice, but also inherently makes the game and battles slower/take longer
And casting it at the wrong time could mean having slow time active during a long animation, and making the animation drag out longer.
Enflame is definitely better for DPS but being able to completely lock up certain enemies, and sometimes even skip invincibility frames/scripted animations, is still useful
An other tipp.
If you are going to the north where the undead summons just before the prison tunnels, there is 4 undead and they are always respawn immediately.
In half an hour, I made 1 million XP with maxed enflame 😅
If you max out enflame it's a one time hit on high level enemies.
I mean you can buy mana potions in bulk for a couple of hundred and you can get like 50-100
@@PTMG I'm late but I came down to basically comment the same thing, bringing special attention to the point about being stuck in place for the Wrath/Fury animation.
In my earliest magic-focused playthroughs, getting Wrath/Fury was my goal because it seemed like the best thing, but sitting through that lengthy animation every single time eventually turned from being empowering to being kind of a slog because of how many large groups of enemies you come across in the game. Once I discovered the power of enflame I ended up using it to trivialize 99% of the game while taking probably less than half the time to defeat all the enemies in an area as Wrath/Fury (this fact becoming most apparent to me in the arena. I've never cleared it so fast as with enflame). No need for stunlocks or slow time or defensive shields or anything like that when the whole room is dead in a couple seconds before they can really do anything. And a lot of the other spells are of course still very useful. I've played a build focused on around a bunch of them and had fun with it. But for pure power fantasy and dps, nothing beats enflame, it's the best one if you're a pure offensive spellcaster.
The one exception is with the boss/strong enemy thing. It's been a good long while since I played but if there's one place where wrath/fury might be better, that could be it. I can't remember if I found it easier to spam enflame on bosses because my casting of Wrath/Fury would get interrupted, or if it was maybe the other way around or something. I also think it's a bit of awkward design to have a spell like Wrath/Fury that's clearly meant for large groups of enemies in an area but is actually outdone by a less prestigious spell like enflame on that front while actually being better for bosses, aka usually a single target situation.
Nice video btw and love the game. I'm here after watching Erik McSwain's retrospective of Fable where he said you couldn't really be a pure caster in Fable. I had to make sure I wasn't crazy about remembering magic being very strong and a pure caster usable (that's a good video too, no hate!).
Some details ...
The greatest damage can be caused by the sword + multi-hit + berserk and hail + bow bundles.
Sometimes it is more than 2000-3000 hp.
But only for one goal.
Pure combat magic often attacks several enemies at once, but the damage for each is usually no higher than 1000 hp.
Therefore, it is more profitable to use pure magic against ordinary enemies. Of which there are many, but they have no more than 2000 hp.
And against rare but especially strong ones, it is more profitable to use hail, multi-hit and berserk.
The fireball directly kills only one enemy. The rest are struck by a shock wave and experience is not given for them.
A hail of arrows can be repelled by bosses.
Berserk or frozen time action is interrupted during scenes.
The damage from most combat magic is different for different enemies. Sometimes it is raised, sometimes it is lowered.
And only the wrath of the underworld / fury of the heavens will always cause permanent damage. Regardless of their protection.
The Renegade does no damage but can bind an endless attack from enemies. For example, the dead in the cemetery.
Yeah one of my favorite things about infernal wrath is that it always does its max damage, which makes it superb for boss fights, especially ones that have anti-attack sequences
The renegade?
I agree with the tier list for the most part, however I want to just touch on a little technique/exploit in regards to Lightning you may or may not know about
You can switch between multiple targets to get even more cost effective/value out of it, let me elaborate
since if you just hold down the spell and never switching targets it has a set damage ticking time
but switching between targets rapidly it resets this damage tick timer
It's a neat technique/exploit trick that can turn your basic Lightning spell into something quite deadly for clearing out groups of enemies quickly
This ofc becomes even stronger the higher level your Lightning Spell is, hope you found this info useful
You've earned yourself a Sub
You can freeze the world with berserk and assassin rush by rushing immediately in and out of a loading area. (i.e. Oakvale to Barrow Fields) Pretty cool glitch.
Haven't tried TLC or Anniversary. But ik it works for the original.
weird i dunno if I ever heard of that one before
it might be one of those original game glitches like the shovel glitch
@@PTMG Could be. I did it on the original, hence me saying Idk about TLC or Anniversary. Still a fun glitch all the same! Thankfully, I got Anniversary now so I'll give it a test and reply with the answer.
Does not work on anniversary, sadly.
that only worked on og fable. i did that glitch all the time because you could buy everyone houses without having to kill them but my friend who had tlc couldn't do it
Slow time is GOD MODE
especially once you max it out it's insanely OP
I use assassin rush a ton in combination with multistrike. You can clear groups of enemies like hobbes way faster than multistrike and berserk. I also prefer the instantaneous effect of assassin rush over the charge up and charge down.
wait does multi strike make the assassin rush strike multiple times?
@@PTMG No, it just guarantees that you end up behind the enemy and within melee range. The distance you can cover at max level makes it very versatile. It also stops most enemies from being able to block.
@@PTMG what makes it OFFICIAL or are you just an OFFICIAL Autism grand master level 5?
I feel when used properly Battle Charge gives you full control of the battlefield. Takes a little practice but it’s a very fun play style when nailed down.
I just stopped the video to comment about not putting Multi strike in S when he literally only says positive stuff about it but said only 2 things about enflame that makes no sense.
My man it's S just by the way you describing it in the video plus it scales with your weapons it's pretty good scaling.
cant remember why, but maybe cause it needs support spells like berserk to be worth it
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Berserk is my favorite fable spell especially with multi strike
OP combo for sure
Wish that fable 2 and 3 would have stuck with the same spell system as tlc/anniversary, it felt so good to have such variety and the effects were brilliant, 2 and 3 spells were boring in comparison
yeah they killed magic in the sequels
Stop Time + Berserk was my favorite combination. It was like being Dio Brando even before discovering Jojo
that plus multistrike you can do some insane damage
I think assassins rush is the best, due to the fact that you can hit and evade instantaneously.
definitely useful, but physical shield might as well be permanent evasion
The spells I would use, to cheese alignment mechanic, be it for doors, or just tons of exp, was the aoe spells you charge with big circle.
Go to graveyard area, with some water and ruins, where undead constantly spawn. Use giant blue glowing aoe, reap the exp but also alignment points.
Then use the red version on guards in the heroes guild on guards, a bit slower with exp, but good way to get quick alignment for evil.
Wow, Turncoat C tier? You're joking, right? I've been playing and modding Fable for at least a decade, and I've never heard anyone call it C tier.
Do you actually like turncoat?
prolly shoulda put it in F tier
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Another thing about lightning it should be S tier because when it does the animation where it decapitates a target as it does the animation if you flick to another mob it'll insta kill them too so when fighting guards bandits ect u can kill 10+ in a second
I actually really really like assassin rush especially with multiple enemies. I use it as a dodger and to get out of cornered situations and if your locked on, your thrown to the enemies back making hits 100 times easier
Yeah I could definitely see how for some fights it would come in handy, especially people like thunder or maze or whisper who essentially auto block every attack
Whenever I play, I end up using Enflame as it has INSANE damage evasion...
Your frames of "invulnerability" are almost unstable. Slow time, and you are op.
...just gotta break the economy and carry impossible amounts of mana potions.
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no cost of xp or mana took in factor. Bad tier list
because both of those are pretty irrelevant
XP is too easy to get for XP to be factored in, no one who plays this game is penny pinching their xp and trying to minmax the value of every xp point they spend
mana cost is also too arbitrary to factor in. None of them use enough will power to matter, especially not when this game is famous for being able to drip feed potions
Maybe you are just bad at fable/bad at evaluating tier lists
@@PTMG you are certainly bad at conversing with people. Maybe some like to not spend that much time and get every xp available at any time or impose challenge on themselves like no potion. I know for a fact that not trying to amass xp beyond what the main quest gives won't get you every skill maxed out. And both multi-strike and multi-arrow are s tiers, and puttin summon and assassin rush there is stupid from your own standards because it gets you swords of eon which is irrelevant to finish the game. Perhaps if you didn't suck at Fable you wouldn't need to glitch ?
"you are certainly bad at conversing with people"
>"no cost of xp or mana took in factor. Bad tier list"
idk you came in pretty hot writing off my entire tier list as bad for a pretty arbitrary reason that pretty much holds no weight, and wouldn't really change much.
You called my tier list bad, I explained why you are bad at evaluating tier lists.
I don't even know what you are mad about at this point, none of your argument really makes any sense.
Are you mad that I make glitch videos for youtube?
You also mention xp from quests which is already going to vary heavily depending on combat multipliers etc. nvm the fact that like 15 minutes at hobbe cave with force push will give you enough xp for every spell in the game basically. and exploits or not I'm pretty sure most people understand the concept of grinding exp in RPG games, and also tend to do so in order to maximize their abilities and progression. It doesn't make sense to factor in cost of exp to these spells because XP is so easy to come by it's an arbitrary cost, and it doesn't make sense to contextualize it with quest XP or anything like that because most people don't play in such a rigid and limiting playstyle, most people will just kill a few bandits or something until they can buy the spell they want.
and assassin rush/summon deserve their tier because of how broken they are for exploiting the game. Being able to get sword of aeons early isn't "irrelevant to finish the game" it makes things measurably easier. It is the most powerful light weapon in the game, and in the OG fable it does an absolutely broken 550 damage. Being able to accomplish this with these spells puts them in a tier of their own honestly, they are beyond S tier.
You must not watch a lot of my videos if you think I suck at fable. I literally make tutorials for this game lmfao.
@@PTMG "none of your arguments make sense"
Posting a comment on a 2 years old video is not conversing. Answer it is.
You could make tutorial on how not to act like an a-hole, despise you being a massive one. Just thinking it could be a valid argument shows more about you than anything you could spew.
Second by braggin about being good at a game you primarily describe as devoid of any skills required.
It's one way or the other dummy
You sure are an asshole for someone who goes around calling people assholes.
To recap:
You started this
Coming in hot being a dick, isn't conversing, it's just being a shitty person and giving shitty critiques that are out of your league.
No offense but I know a lot more about this game than you do, your words have much less nuance than you think they do.
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Physical Shield + Slow Time + Berserk = unstoppable
hell yeah
Actually, if you have Slow Time, you don't need PS because nothing can really hit you 😅
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Btw heal life also counts as a gold bribe or gift
lol that's weird I never knew that
So theoretically you can just heal people until they want to marry you?
@@PTMG Yep, it's pretty niche but it gets hearts the quickest.
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The actual most broken spell is in fact Lightning... Surprised people aren't mentioning this in the comments. When casting and target locking an enemy, continuously swap targets as fast as you can and you'll instantly proc the damage over and over without the regular delay if you're just holding the spell. At that point you're essentially just using a better divine fury and infernal wrath, no other spells not even physical shield can compete as no enemy will ever be able to actually hit you aside from trolls and other bosses that don't get stunned. I don't know if this works with mouse and keyboard, I only use controller when playing fable anniversary to get the same vibes as I did playing the game all those years ago on the OG Xbox. Enjoy furiously flicking your analogue stick from side to side :)
Interesting, I'll have to try target hopping with it
I usually have it maxed out so it target hops by itself, but yeah lightning is OP as hell. Not super high damage, but you can basically cast it forever without stopping. And if you have 7 mana augments (3 on bow, 4 on frying pan) you can literally cast it forever.
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All spells in Fable are OP, some are just more OP than others. I disagree that Divine Fury and Infernal Wrath are better than inflame: Inflame is better simply because there is no cooldown time and mana is basically inexhaustible. One benefit you are missing regarding lighting is multiplier reservation: it is so instantaneous, long range, unable to miss, and can be used while you walk almost anywhere relative to your enemy that you can cross a map without losing multiplier if an enemy is in the middle of it, because you can hold down lightning as you traverse the distance.
enflame is definitely good, and better as far as damage goes
But the ability infernal wrath and divine fury have, to damage enemies and keep them frame locked in a damage sequence when they otherwise shoudln't be, makes it a different level of spell in my book.
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There’s is one redeeming quality to Turncoat you might not know. If you are doing a good run and still want to buyout a town for renting, you can kill all the townsfolk without getting one evil point.
All you do is pull out your weapon and wait till the guards yell at you three times to put your weapon away and put a 10 gold fine on you. The guards and the townsfolk will turn hostile. You can now Turncoat the guards. They will slaughter the town for you. Once you buy all the houses, shops, and barns just put away your weapon. Bounty goes away and no evil act committed because the guards killed everyone “randomly”.
Otherwise, absolutely useless spell, but funny for this one reason.
yo that's pretty good I'll have to try that
@@PTMG Have fun! It’s the most hilariously “neutral” evil act I’ve ever found in a game
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I use assassin rush when fighting rock trolls. I get behind them and cast when they look for me, it keeps them from smashing the ground. Pairing it with multi strike, makes killing trolls easy.
I also like using multi arrow on the scorpion king, just steer clear of him and hold down the attack until you get a good shot, too it can not be blocked.
Ill have to try that on the trolls
For the scorpion though, the reason why infernal/divine is nice, is that you can actually skip an entire dig-underground sequence if you time your attacks right and use slow time. You can time it so the infernal/divine pops off right before he starts to dig then it traps him for the duration of your attack.
Depending on your timing with slow time, you can hit him a second time in a row after he was supposed to have dug under ground
you have to be equally fast the next time he comes up though, because if you damage him below his second dig threshold health level, he will immediately dig down after re surfacing, so you have to catch him with your infernal/divine at just the right time
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I discovered something interesting about Divine Wrath and its twin spell.
After you finish casting the spell, for the 6.5 seconds of its duration, ranged enemies (those that fire arrows or magic) outside the area of the spell stop attacking and just wait for you to finish.
Even more interesting, if a projectile was launched at you before you finished casting the spell, but it reaches you after the spell is activated, it can’t hit you. It gets deflected.
That's wild somehow I never noticed that but it makes sense since yeah you never seem to take damage from anyone anymore once you are in the middle of the spell
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Multistrike is S tier because of a feature you either didn't know or forgot to talk about. It goes through enemy block. If there is an enemy that just keeps blocking, just use multistrike to bypass their block making the fight so much faster and allows you to stun lock them.
good point
Slow time is crazy when maxed out. +S tier.
Turncoat on the other hand is pointless as there are better spells available that have similar advantages (i.e. ghost blades) and there are few, if any, places where a player gets overwhelmed to a point where they would consider Turncoat as an option. I'd rank it Meme tier
Turncoat was a cool idea when they first made it probably
Then they made a bunch of other cool spells that made it stupid idk
That's the only explanation I can come up with for why they even added it at all lmfao
@@PTMG like most things British that I don't understand I assume it's a Monty Python reference and go about my day
Fireball is over powered especially against bosses like the kraxken where it has a lot of health but u also have a lot of wind up time.
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Was trying to enjoy the video but dude's mouth kept making wet sounds that were driving me up the wall. Once you hear it you cannot unhear it.
honestly the only reason I add background music
Should have Showcased the "Shocking Finger", and the "Forceful Fart".
You Dishonor the Sixth House and the Tribe Unmourned with your Incompetence of Humor. Oh what a Grand and Intoxicating Innocence that you show a Russian Dance while using Lightning, but nothing else. For Shame on you.
lmfao that was just the one I had handy at the time
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Dude, you put multi-strike to A list? With this spell you can kill almost ANY BOSS with 1 strike if you turn on berserk and have a critical strike set up, as well as a good sword. It is a single most broken damage spell in the game. I killed kraken with 1 strike, I killed that big gladiator guy with 1 strike. It's just so good I don't even know how you put it so low :(
true but I still feel like it needs too much support (berserk, flourish, good weapon) to be effective, to be listed as S tier
For most cases other stuff is already good enough, so it really only has use in boss fights
For instance I'm not gonna go breserk, and use multistrike when something like enflame will kill half of enemies in 1 or 2 hits (as well as entire groups)
multiple arrows are very broken, I ended up with many bosses with few shots
I was with lv5 precision and lv2 multiple arrows... basically I killed the white werewolf with one shot
white balverine is an interesting one actually
You don't even need that, you just need to hold your bow drawn at the top of that hill for a few minutes and you will kill him in one hit. The weaker your bow/the lower your accuracy is the longer you need to hold it drawn.
You can also hero save (in TLC not anniversary)to get 3 silver augmentations from that quest before fighting the balverine. put all 3 on a master bow and it's a 1 hit kill for white balverines.
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Why would you say that physical shield is broken when it's the best skill and serves its purpose? I don't understand why you think it's broken.
broken = overpowered
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My go to is Assassins Rush. Hit, hit, zoom. Hit, hit, zoom. I've never dodge in my nearly 20 years of playing Fable lol
Definitely a good strat was just never my style
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I played this game a really long time ago as a bay and am now playing it again 10+ years later thank you for this video
No problem
Battle charge is surprisingly really good for fighting whisper and thunder
I prefer enflame, but they both do about the same damage
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I'll like this game isn't so interesting games,,
Did you forget about Lightning Bro? It's an Attack Spell and you skipped it.
I don't think I skipped it
23:12
Begining of turncoat spell ;)
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I fucking died at 23:20
LOL
They way you expressed how trash it is.
🤣🤣🤣
lmfao you should see my turncoat playthrough I made recently
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I max out ghost swords every game, its too useful. I dont take it for the damage though just as a distraction.
Ghost swords is a good one that I tend to forget about