I must say this is one really, REALLY impressive video! I cannot even imagine the amount of effort or time it took you to research all of this and then to compile it into a cohesive ranking system. I must say that I was a little bit surprised by the Manlia gens being in the 7th place, instead of the 6th one. So I guess there are the 5 great ones remaining, which should be Valeria, Claudia, Fabia, Aemilia and of course Cornelia gens which were by far the greatest patrician houses of the Republic. My guess is that the list is gonna be as following: 5. Aemilii 4. Claudii 3. Fabii 2. Valerii 1. Cornelii Now, all of my rankings (except for Cornelii) are educated guesses, but I think that this is more or less how they should be ranked. Cornelii though are a major exception here, since there should be a pretty wide gap between them on the 1st place and on whichever gens you put to be 2nd. Anyway, I cannot wait for the next episode.
I’m genuinely surprised that the Caecilii didn’t make the list. They were very prominent in the mid-late republic, and in the decades preceding the first civil war, they and their in laws dominated politics, including 2 members holding the title Princeps Senatus.
*Fun fact:* The Gracchi Brothers appear in the Roma Trilogy written by Steven Saylor, which tells the story of the Pinarii family from 1000 BC to the Christianization of the Empire and how those members met the men who shaped the history of Rome (including the Gracchi brothers)
This was the video I never new I needed until you gave it. I will say that I didn’t expect gens Licinia to make the cut. If I was to guess the top 5, it would go. 5. Aemilii 4. Fabii 3. Claudii 2. Valerii 1. Cornelii
The gens Licinia we're the champions of the common and poor citizens from the beginning, even before Gaius Flaminius and the Sempronius Gracchi brother's!! 🛡️🗡️ A very overlooked and great family!!
Crassus: "Tell me, Antoninus. Do you think eating snails and oysters is completely immoral?" Antoninus: "You should eat molten gold instead, Master..." Crassus: "Sorry. What did you say?" Antoninus: "No-nothing!"
Someone is jealous of Marcus Licinius Crassus, and/or a Sparta-CRAP lover.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (At least Crassus wasn't a Tyrannical Traitorous Nutjob like the Caesar family who destroyed the Noble Republic!!) 😁
9:51 Speaking of Galba, it has always amused me that, in the movie "Quo Vadis", the protagonist Marcus Vinicius says all the time that Galba is the Empire's only hope against Nero's madness, when we all know how disastrous and short Galba's reign was. Just imagining Marcus Vinicius' face while watching how "great" Galba was makes me laugh 🤣🤣🤣
@@RomabooRamblings He is mostly based on the Senator of the same name who was the brother in law of Caligula and also responsible for the murder of the mad tyrant
Can I say how insane it is how many great men were in Rome in the late Republic? It is only comparable to the inner circle of Alexander the Great and a few other times in history.
"May you live in interesting times" might just as well be "may you live in a time with many great men." Mmm... but saying that, we live in interesting times at the moment, but I see little of greatness anywhere!
It has to be the Aurelii. They were so successful, by the middle of the 300sAD, they comprised 90% of the Roman population. Closely followed by the Flavii, they were at 10%. Oh no, wait...
Finally, some love for the republican period. And not just the Late republic, All of it. I imagine this must have been one hell of a topic to research.
Right there with You!! I LOVE the Republic!!!! Especially the Fifth, Fourth, Third, and Second Century BC! (The First half of the First Century I do love also!) #GloryToRome #GloryToTheNobleRepublic 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️
I gotta say that you're probably my favorite romaboo TH-camr (other than Historia Civilis and the god emperor himself dovahatty). Some of these video ideas are really creative and interesting!
The Roman Republic was more affective and powerful than the Roman Empire because of one thing. The Roman Republic did experiencing instability, invasions and warfare but it still survived and even acquired new land to become the Empire. And yet the Roman Empire also encountered the same fates but it lost territories and was overthrown at the end. That was a huge gap between the two entities.
Agreed!!!! 💯 The Republic faced Countless Challenges, Constant War, Enemies, and as You said, still became a Empire!! But also the Republic had Many Prestigious, Talented, Intelligent, Diplomatic, Noble, Virtuous, Skilled, and Fantastic Soldiers and People, Generals, Politicians, Lawyers, Poets, etc!!! The Republic is my most favorite and beloved Time period!!!! #GloryToRome #GloryToTheNobleRepublic 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️ (Tied with the Reign of Trajan and Marcus Aurelius, the Reign of Alexander The Great and Phillip II, The Diadochi Wars, Hellenistic and Classical Greece, the Medieval Times, and the Middle Ages!)
With the sempronia gens how did the later branches become plebs? Was patrician status not always inherited? I would have thought to be part of the family you would descend through the male line thus inheriting patrician status or is this not how it worked? I've never really heard anyone go into detail on Roman class structure or inheritance
One of the great Women of the Roman Republic!! 🙂 Alongside Aemilia Tertia, Cornelia, Lucretia, etc! (Lucretia was actually from the Roman Monarchy, but her heartbreaking story and strong heart was the main reason for the overthrow of the kingdom, and beginning of the Republic!)
I adore your presentation of this. It really feels like the end of a sports / video game which makes it much lighthearted which is a nice. It is good to not sugar coat history for it happens to often from the sources themselves but if you are ranking based on points this approach is simply perfect.
The obvious point to contend with this ranking is the outsized weight it gives gentes with many plebeian stirps by weighting more heavily the tribunes than the praetors. Not to detract from the power and influence of tribunes, Praetors had actual imperium and, unless a Consul or higher up (dictator, the Senate, the Assemblies) contradicted them, their word would be the word of "Roma". That this is the only obvious point, and even then, to contend with rather than discredit, demonstrates that this is a great series.
if you ever make will you ever make a season 2 with strongest families during the empire? id also love a season 3 with where did the powerful families go after their primes? i know the julio claudian people were killed off but where the hell did the pompeia go
if ur talking only during the republic im going to guess gens julia isnt that great as gaius julius the first wasnt all that powerful if marius counts as a julia that would push the dynasty higher however strongest is most likely the brutii as they were pretty op
I'd be pretty interested in seeing how a ranking of the Imperial Dynasties turned out, the most notable ones have some of the best and worst emperors in them
Nice video on albanian history, you don't see too many like this. A cool idea for a video - but probably too much word salad - might be the meaning of the names. Apparently the Servilii come from Alba Longa and means "one who serves," unsurprisingly. Unmentioned here is the equally unsurprising Gens Romilii, who originate from no one special, nope nope.
It's sad really, wonder what it could have been if the big late republican families stayed relevant during the age of the Empire. Rome could always use a few Scipios.
I truly Love and Admire Ancient Rome!!! Especially the Noble Roman Republic!! History is One of my strongest Passions and Loves!! 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️ I'm actually working towards becoming a Historian or something related to History, maybe a Teacher, writing books, etc! Love the rich history of Europe!
Are you going to continue you bringer of victory series? I thought it was really really good. After it you could discuss other wars of rome or ancient empires like the selucids?
I counted multiple dictatorships of 1 person as 1 for the purpose of scoring, because the subsequent ones were often just prolongations of the first one. Otherwise the rankings would be overly skewed towards dictators. Caesar was given a 10 years term as dictator, which in is equivalent to being a dictator 20 times. Sulla was dictator in perpetuity, but I can't give Gens Cornelia infinite score. My basic guideline for coming up with the scoring system was that consulships should be the bulk, because this office had more or less uniform powers and term length throughout the whole republican period. Hope it makes sense.
@@RomabooRamblingsCaesar had to use Threats and Violence to get the Dictatorship.... Marcus Furius Camillus, and Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus actually EARNED it!!
How important the gentes were in Rome makes it insane that the made Imperator: Rome more like Europa Universalis and less like Crusader Kings which is a game that's all about building up your family.
I don't completely agree with the premises. Also in Imperial time we can see specific families to be particularly present among public offices; some already prominent in Republican times, some just emerged, but yet there are clearly some powerful families, even outside of Imperial dynasties (for example the Anici in the late Empire).
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If I'd have to guess the remaining ones:
5- Aemilii
4- Fabii
3- Valerii
2- Claudii
1- Cornelii
Really close....
Crazy to think how long some of these families with (at least supposedly) known, unbroken lineage remained in power and prominence.
I must say this is one really, REALLY impressive video! I cannot even imagine the amount of effort or time it took you to research all of this and then to compile it into a cohesive ranking system. I must say that I was a little bit surprised by the Manlia gens being in the 7th place, instead of the 6th one. So I guess there are the 5 great ones remaining, which should be Valeria, Claudia, Fabia, Aemilia and of course Cornelia gens which were by far the greatest patrician houses of the Republic. My guess is that the list is gonna be as following:
5. Aemilii
4. Claudii
3. Fabii
2. Valerii
1. Cornelii
Now, all of my rankings (except for Cornelii) are educated guesses, but I think that this is more or less how they should be ranked. Cornelii though are a major exception here, since there should be a pretty wide gap between them on the 1st place and on whichever gens you put to be 2nd. Anyway, I cannot wait for the next episode.
I'd also guess that Manlii would in 6th place, but apparently Servilii had more of everything, except for dictatorships
I’m genuinely surprised that the Caecilii didn’t make the list. They were very prominent in the mid-late republic, and in the decades preceding the first civil war, they and their in laws dominated politics, including 2 members holding the title Princeps Senatus.
*Fun fact:* The Gracchi Brothers appear in the Roma Trilogy written by Steven Saylor, which tells the story of the Pinarii family from 1000 BC to the Christianization of the Empire and how those members met the men who shaped the history of Rome (including the Gracchi brothers)
Is it a good trilogy? The only Roman Historical fiction I've read are the old ones by Coleen Mcculough and Robert Graves
@@RomabooRamblings It's pretty good, actually. The way it tells the entire story of Rome through the eyes of a family is pretty awesome, to be honest
This was the video I never new I needed until you gave it. I will say that I didn’t expect gens Licinia to make the cut. If I was to guess the top 5, it would go.
5. Aemilii
4. Fabii
3. Claudii
2. Valerii
1. Cornelii
The gens Licinia we're the champions of the common and poor citizens from the beginning, even before Gaius Flaminius and the Sempronius Gracchi brother's!! 🛡️🗡️ A very overlooked and great family!!
Crassus: "Tell me, Antoninus. Do you think eating snails and oysters is completely immoral?"
Antoninus: "You should eat molten gold instead, Master..."
Crassus: "Sorry. What did you say?"
Antoninus: "No-nothing!"
Someone is jealous of Marcus Licinius Crassus, and/or a Sparta-CRAP lover.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (At least Crassus wasn't a Tyrannical Traitorous Nutjob like the Caesar family who destroyed the Noble Republic!!) 😁
I love how you became my defacto Roman history guy. Keep up the good work!
Number 1: Brazillian Royal Family
Gens Brazilii lmao
You must have spent a while researching this! Excellent job - fascinating stuff. Can't wait for the top 5! Subscribed.
The biggest problem was, probably, gatter all the data. After that, you can sympli use excel ang get the points em 5 min or so.
@@hermanoguimaraes6343 Yeah, lot of gathering data and putting it in the spreadsheet, but easy once you've done it!
@@bentilbury2002 He must have used ligma to recover the data from an html page
9:51 Speaking of Galba, it has always amused me that, in the movie "Quo Vadis", the protagonist Marcus Vinicius says all the time that Galba is the Empire's only hope against Nero's madness, when we all know how disastrous and short Galba's reign was. Just imagining Marcus Vinicius' face while watching how "great" Galba was makes me laugh 🤣🤣🤣
Is he based on Gaius Julius Vindex?
@@RomabooRamblings He is mostly based on the Senator of the same name who was the brother in law of Caligula and also responsible for the murder of the mad tyrant
Can I say how insane it is how many great men were in Rome in the late Republic? It is only comparable to the inner circle of Alexander the Great and a few other times in history.
yep, republican system did a lot to foster ambitious men. Too bad it eventually became too small for their ambitions.
"May you live in interesting times" might just as well be "may you live in a time with many great men." Mmm... but saying that, we live in interesting times at the moment, but I see little of greatness anywhere!
The Roman Republic itself gave the world some of the Greatest and Worst Generals and Politicians in History! 🛡️🗡️
Second and Third century BC we're the best!! True Romans with virtue, honor, skill, intelligence, and loyalty!! 🛡️ 🗡️
It has to be the Aurelii.
They were so successful, by the middle of the 300sAD, they comprised 90% of the Roman population.
Closely followed by the Flavii, they were at 10%.
Oh no, wait...
Can’t lie this is interesting asf I like to think Ik a lot about Rome but I learnt a lot from this vid, this deserves more views fr
Finally, some love for the republican period. And not just the Late republic, All of it. I imagine this must have been one hell of a topic to research.
Right there with You!!
I LOVE the Republic!!!! Especially the Fifth, Fourth, Third, and Second Century BC! (The First half of the First Century I do love also!)
#GloryToRome #GloryToTheNobleRepublic 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️
Next, every aqueduct ranked.
I gotta say that you're probably my favorite romaboo TH-camr (other than Historia Civilis and the god emperor himself dovahatty). Some of these video ideas are really creative and interesting!
Dovahatty is overrated and garbage.
Love the videos about Roman society
Great video. Would have been cool if you mentioned the Gens’s last known members.
Dude, you gotta stop updating videos that I immediately love, how do you keep making awesome stuff that I didn't know I wanted, but totally want?!
This is epic. Thank you.
The Roman Republic was more affective and powerful than the Roman Empire because of one thing. The Roman Republic did experiencing instability, invasions and warfare but it still survived and even acquired new land to become the Empire. And yet the Roman Empire also encountered the same fates but it lost territories and was overthrown at the end. That was a huge gap between the two entities.
The Empire during the pax romana was more powerful and effective. Rome might've collapsed in on it's self if the republic kept on going tbh.
Agreed!!!! 💯
The Republic faced Countless Challenges, Constant War, Enemies, and as You said, still became a Empire!! But also the Republic had Many Prestigious, Talented, Intelligent, Diplomatic, Noble, Virtuous, Skilled, and Fantastic Soldiers and People, Generals, Politicians, Lawyers, Poets, etc!!! The Republic is my most favorite and beloved Time period!!!!
#GloryToRome #GloryToTheNobleRepublic 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️
(Tied with the Reign of Trajan and Marcus Aurelius, the Reign of Alexander The Great and Phillip II, The Diadochi Wars, Hellenistic and Classical Greece, the Medieval Times, and the Middle Ages!)
With the sempronia gens how did the later branches become plebs? Was patrician status not always inherited? I would have thought to be part of the family you would descend through the male line thus inheriting patrician status or is this not how it worked? I've never really heard anyone go into detail on Roman class structure or inheritance
You could marry into the Plebeian family, or willingly switch over depending on the time period. That's mostly how it went.
This is outstanding. I wonder if you included pontifical offices in your calculation, and if not how they might have impacted the results?
This is an incredible and unique video from you, I'm excited for the release of part 2!
Nice that you picked Servilia to represent her gens
One of the great Women of the Roman Republic!! 🙂 Alongside Aemilia Tertia, Cornelia, Lucretia, etc! (Lucretia was actually from the Roman Monarchy, but her heartbreaking story and strong heart was the main reason for the overthrow of the kingdom, and beginning of the Republic!)
I just want to say how much I appreciate the research and effort you put into you’re videos!!!
I adore your presentation of this. It really feels like the end of a sports / video game which makes it much lighthearted which is a nice. It is good to not sugar coat history for it happens to often from the sources themselves but if you are ranking based on points this approach is simply perfect.
Now if I was to guess top 5 I say Cornelii on top, followed by Fabii, Claudii, Valerii and lastly Aemilii. Edit for likelylihood
Shocking Julia scored onto the list but Junia didn't.
Amazing video. Many thanks to you!
Bro your channel fucking slays, keep it up. Really enjoy the vids.
Looking forward to claudians being first😊. They are like an apple tree, some sweet some crab apples. Thats what I claudius says…
you may be surprised
I can’t wait for part 2
The obvious point to contend with this ranking is the outsized weight it gives gentes with many plebeian stirps by weighting more heavily the tribunes than the praetors. Not to detract from the power and influence of tribunes, Praetors had actual imperium and, unless a Consul or higher up (dictator, the Senate, the Assemblies) contradicted them, their word would be the word of "Roma".
That this is the only obvious point, and even then, to contend with rather than discredit, demonstrates that this is a great series.
if you ever make will you ever make a season 2 with strongest families during the empire?
id also love a season 3 with where did the powerful families go after their primes? i know the julio claudian people were killed off but where the hell did the pompeia go
if ur talking only during the republic im going to guess gens julia isnt that great as gaius julius the first wasnt all that powerful
if marius counts as a julia that would push the dynasty higher however
strongest is most likely the brutii as they were pretty op
I'd be pretty interested in seeing how a ranking of the Imperial Dynasties turned out, the most notable ones have some of the best and worst emperors in them
does octavian consulship count as points for julia? he was adopted
Such a great topic. Banger after banger, well done man.
Wow what a nerd
I aspire to be more like you
Gens Iulia was frustrating, Caesar putting up a GOAT-level performance just for his family to let him down.
I wonder if Octavian (adopted into Julii) was here. It wasn’t mentioned and he had plenty of consulships
Roman family gore. Also, wasn't Alba Longa a Latin city? If so, wouldn't the Gens Julii be of Roman (Latin) origin?
"Roman origins" means they supposedly among the founders, and the rest came later from whichever city, like Alba Longa or Tusculum
@@RomabooRamblings Ah. Thank you for the response.
Nice video on albanian history, you don't see too many like this.
A cool idea for a video - but probably too much word salad - might be the meaning of the names. Apparently the Servilii come from Alba Longa and means "one who serves," unsurprisingly. Unmentioned here is the equally unsurprising Gens Romilii, who originate from no one special, nope nope.
Good stuff. Love your content.
The Cornelii Scipiones fell off during the time of Caesar
Sadge.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial partially being subsumed by the metelii super gens.
It's sad really, wonder what it could have been if the big late republican families stayed relevant during the age of the Empire. Rome could always use a few Scipios.
There still were a couple of relevant Cornelius Scipio during the first years of the Empire.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Even more sadder.
This video is so interesting
love the sound of your voice 😍
I truly Love and Admire Ancient Rome!!! Especially the Noble Roman Republic!!
History is One of my strongest Passions and Loves!! 🛡️🤍❤️🗡️
I'm actually working towards becoming a Historian or something related to History, maybe a Teacher, writing books, etc! Love the rich history of Europe!
Brutus is way more (in)famous than Servilia
yep, but he is primarily of gens Junia
This channel is so fucking amazing... Great content, great ideas, great execution!
Interesting
Are you planning on making videos on the less important gens.
Are you going to continue you bringer of victory series? I thought it was really really good. After it you could discuss other wars of rome or ancient empires like the selucids?
I will finish it, but I can't say exactly when.
why is concul les point than censor?
Censors served very long terms, while consuls served for a year and shared power between the 2 of them.
@@RomabooRamblings 👍
Dear Romaboo Ramblings at 11.00 how say that Marcus Furius Camillus was dictator 5 times but the overal family has 2 dictators. how come
I counted multiple dictatorships of 1 person as 1 for the purpose of scoring, because the subsequent ones were often just prolongations of the first one. Otherwise the rankings would be overly skewed towards dictators. Caesar was given a 10 years term as dictator, which in is equivalent to being a dictator 20 times. Sulla was dictator in perpetuity, but I can't give Gens Cornelia infinite score. My basic guideline for coming up with the scoring system was that consulships should be the bulk, because this office had more or less uniform powers and term length throughout the whole republican period. Hope it makes sense.
Yes thx
@@RomabooRamblingsCaesar had to use Threats and Violence to get the Dictatorship.... Marcus Furius Camillus, and Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus actually EARNED it!!
How important the gentes were in Rome makes it insane that the made Imperator: Rome more like Europa Universalis and less like Crusader Kings which is a game that's all about building up your family.
I don't completely agree with the premises. Also in Imperial time we can see specific families to be particularly present among public offices; some already prominent in Republican times, some just emerged, but yet there are clearly some powerful families, even outside of Imperial dynasties (for example the Anici in the late Empire).