Cheers Rog ~ I've been called mercurial in the past XD. It's funny to me how i've been theatrically disposed since forever, but some truths just have to be expressed and will announce themselves on my person. When I love it I love it, and have contempt for it... I ooooooze.
@@GemologyforSchmucks Ha, yea I totally agree. Over marketed, over priced, but it’s a Diamond, I must have it! What a load of old toot. There are, as you well know, so many coloured stones that are so much more beautiful than colourless Diamond, yet sadly underrated. Consumer Monkeys spring to mind Peter. If you want white sparkle then man made Moissanite is just as, if not more sparkly than Diamond as it is doubly refractive.
I'm enjoying all of your videos... I've been a bench jeweler of repairs mostly 😢 for 28 years and have always wanted to go to gemology school... I'm finally have an opportunity to do it🎉😊❤ I would like to spend my later years transitioning into appraisal work or something non bench related and thus spend free time behind the bench designing and making what "I" want 😊 I love pretty rocks❤❤
I'm glad to be of service, Jennifer. With your background, I think the transition into appraisal would be quite smooth. You have so much of the knowledge that appraisers lack at the beginning and have to scramble to acquire. Best of luck~
After decades in the trades I've just started faceting. My favorite shapes for designs have always been rounds and trillions so that's what I'm cutting in the quartz varieties for the lesson plan. I do understand maximizing recovery/yield yet there is something so very elegant about the "Round Brilliant" and all of it's variations. After all, what doesn't look fabulous in a 10 mm round? (psst!- I'm saving all of the goodies like tourmaline, peridot, sphene, etc. for when I have a greater perspective on this art, Thanks so much for your fun shows.)
Symmetry and sparkle definitely draw a lot of attention. My perspective is: like what you like. It's not for anyone else to say what you can and cannot like, and that also applies when folks have different preferences to my own. Cheers Peter
Another excellent video with a quick but informative breakdown of the reasons behind the various cuts. You and Justin are two sides of the same coin, a gemologist and gem historian; both stone cutters as well. Solid educational resources that have built a substantial archive. I'm curious about local gem prices there. They have to be decent for someone established and aware of the markets.
Thank you ~ prices definitely depend on which gemstone. Some are more expensive than in the US and others much cheaper and there doesn't seem to be much logic to it. It "just is" As you noted above, if someone is aware of the markets and general availability of qualities and colours, there can be some great deals found here. I suppose thats stones in general.
Love your videos! Your unique presentation is quite entertaining and gets the knowledge across to the viewer. I found your most recent videos about faceting to be spot on. Ewww, Quartz...lol. I need to email you for some rough that I am looking for.
Great points. Round cut looks incredible in Moissanite but when it comes to colored gemstones I really like the square - ish cuts. Ascher, Emerald, Square etc. Am I correct in assuming these give the strongest color?
Step cuts (large facets in general) tend to amplify colour more, rather than scatter light and create scintillation. There are some combined faceting techniques that can do both, but in general you're correct.
Do you know anything about padparadscha sapphires? I found one that is heat treated with beryllium and I’m wondering what those typically go for. I understand it’s probably not a genuine type of this stone but in any event just wondering what they cost per carat.
I know a few things about padparadscha sapphires, yes. At this stage in history the definition and what labs are designating are two very different things. That said, beryllium treatment I believe rules out the possibility of any LMHC aligned lab giving it the name padparadscha on a report. For prices on your particular stone, you'd need to shop the market.
I purchased a lab made ruby ring recently on sterling silver, the jeweler said it is identical to natural just more perfect cut so you can tell when it's man made since it lacks imperfections. Is that true? And are they really identical just ones man made and costs less?
Synthetic gems by definition are chemically and crystallographically the same as natural stones. Are they identical? There are subtleties that I don't know if I have measurements to explain them with. What I can say is that my most senior gemologist colleagues get a feeling when they look at the stone and then confirm it with the microscope (natural or synthetic inclusions). I think science starts with a basic assumption that: if you can observe a difference, then look for a way to measure it. So to come full circle on your question, are they identical? Totally? Absolutely not. Identical in many physical ways? yes. The price difference is going to come down to rarity. They can manufacture as many synthetic stones as they want provided they have the chemical resources, machinery and money for energy (which for flame fusion process is cheap cheap cheap). Natural, high quality rubies are exceptionally rare in nature, which makes them the most expensive coloured stone in the world by weight.
Labs can (and some do) add inclusions and even fractures to mimic natural gemstones. Most notably emeralds, because buyers know natural stones have fractures and inclusions by default. Loupe clean emerald is almost unheard of. There is still a difference between natural and lab inclusions that are detectable, but only a trained professional could tell them apart.
@@DonariaRegia sure ~ with enough ingenuity, scientists can do most anything they want. Often times though its cost-prohibitive to manufacture synthetics just to mimic natural inclusions for deceitful purposes. Flux synthetics (particularly for emeralds) are some of my favourites, and also the most difficult to identify in my experience.
I'm interested in cuts for Lazulite & peridot set in a platnium or palladium for a men's ring, and other sets And likewise for purple/blue, pink and clear sapphires. Do you know any reputable lab grown large sapphire suppliers?
If you're looking for lab sapphire, you might check out Tyler Ferrari on instagram @tylerpferrari He does some really cool precision cuts and concave cuts on lab sapphire and many other stones.
Hello.. I found this large men's ring taking the leaves in my yard.. I'm hoping someone can help me with information of what it may be and the age.. please help me identify if it's a diamond or ruby or ect..
Hi Valeria, here is a link to a video that explains the complexity of identifying gemstones without having the stone. Hopefully it helps clarify the situation. th-cam.com/video/4RxN6GXizsY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PmTk5yWCE6QOu_Gx
Thanks Thoralf. There's some cool stuff in tourmaline for sure, but bi-colour/ particolour sapphires can be astounding. Theres some Afghan deposits that have ruby-sapphire intergrown. It makes me want to scream. Sometimes I do.
While I love the giant 'gem', I've never particularly favoured round cuts. I like pointy. Marquise, princess, a sharper emerald cut. Maybe that's just a reflection of my 'pointed' personality? I don't really have any soft edges.
Shapes speak to people, definitely. I have significant prejudice when it comes to various ovals and an utter loathing for heart-shapes faceted gems. Abomination I say!
@@GemologyforSchmucks LOL. The heart-shaped ones look cheap, frankly, because they've always been seen on kids' costume jewelry. I do like a nice, slim raindrop, of course, but not the fatter, pear-shaped ones.
I think that largely depends on the body colour and tone as well as the original crystal rough. We have to be efficient with those crystals, but we also need to show off their strengths. Dark stones and lighter body colour stones don't have the same advantages with the same types of cuts. Most ruby and sapphire you'll see cut with a mixed cut (brilliant crown and step cut pavilion, often with small facets).
Asscher cut is a favourite of mine aswel. I've not hear of the the Lagune cut personally, but there are tens of thousands of cutting diagrams and new ones are being made each day.
@@GemologyforSchmucks The same, i also like the Asher cut. I would like to get a raw best quality vivid light blue Sapphire and let it cut in Asher shape ( darker then aquamarine) Then design a men ring and fit it with little best quality briljant cut diamonds surrounding it. The Ashercut sapphire i would like must be at least 2 carats after cutting. All can be costly but i have no hurry. 🤗 Btw, the biggest gap in the high end Jewellery world is a special famous line or brand of Men Jewellery !!! In all gradations. Silver, gold, platinum. With real top 10 gemstones. And maybe with real natural saltwater pearls.😅 5 on mohr grades upwards. No cubic zirkonia and no rock christal that cant be tested. The Pandora silver jewellery i like because of their quality finishing, so i see its posible to make good jewellery in high volume. 🤗
I always wondered what determined the shape of the cut now I know thanks Peter!,on a side note if the stone business doesn't pan out with the bandana n waistcoat I'm sure you could get a job as a pirate lol!😂😁✌️
I wish you health. I really enjoy watching your channel and I wish it would continue. I have a question: are you able to roughly assess the stones collected in a certain place in Kazakhstan? Link here: th-cam.com/video/5jwHGNToF1k/w-d-xo.html The gold-colored metal found there is tombac - not gold.
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Great share, thanks Peter. Oooooo, the expression on your face when you mentioned white round cut diamond was classic. 😂😂
Cheers Rog ~ I've been called mercurial in the past XD. It's funny to me how i've been theatrically disposed since forever, but some truths just have to be expressed and will announce themselves on my person. When I love it I love it, and have contempt for it... I ooooooze.
@@GemologyforSchmucks Ha, yea I totally agree. Over marketed, over priced, but it’s a Diamond, I must have it! What a load of old toot. There are, as you well know, so many coloured stones that are so much more beautiful than colourless Diamond, yet sadly underrated. Consumer Monkeys spring to mind Peter. If you want white sparkle then man made Moissanite is just as, if not more sparkly than Diamond as it is doubly refractive.
I'm enjoying all of your videos... I've been a bench jeweler of repairs mostly 😢 for 28 years and have always wanted to go to gemology school... I'm finally have an opportunity to do it🎉😊❤
I would like to spend my later years transitioning into appraisal work or something non bench related and thus spend free time behind the bench designing and making what "I" want 😊
I love pretty rocks❤❤
I'm glad to be of service, Jennifer. With your background, I think the transition into appraisal would be quite smooth. You have so much of the knowledge that appraisers lack at the beginning and have to scramble to acquire. Best of luck~
First time I visit your channel, thanks for valuable information.
Blessed
Welcome to the channel~
After decades in the trades I've just started faceting. My favorite shapes for designs have always been rounds and trillions so that's what I'm cutting in the quartz varieties for the lesson plan. I do understand maximizing recovery/yield yet there is something so very elegant about the "Round Brilliant" and all of it's variations. After all, what doesn't look fabulous in a 10 mm round?
(psst!- I'm saving all of the goodies like tourmaline, peridot, sphene, etc. for when I have a greater perspective on this art, Thanks so much for your fun shows.)
Symmetry and sparkle definitely draw a lot of attention. My perspective is: like what you like. It's not for anyone else to say what you can and cannot like, and that also applies when folks have different preferences to my own. Cheers Peter
Another excellent video with a quick but informative breakdown of the reasons behind the various cuts. You and Justin are two sides of the same coin, a gemologist and gem historian; both stone cutters as well. Solid educational resources that have built a substantial archive. I'm curious about local gem prices there. They have to be decent for someone established and aware of the markets.
Thank you ~ prices definitely depend on which gemstone. Some are more expensive than in the US and others much cheaper and there doesn't seem to be much logic to it. It "just is" As you noted above, if someone is aware of the markets and general availability of qualities and colours, there can be some great deals found here. I suppose thats stones in general.
Such fantastic insight, love this channel!
Thanks ~ I'm glad you enjoy it aswell.
As always Peter nicely done
Much appreciated, Greg
Love your videos! Your unique presentation is quite entertaining and gets the knowledge across to the viewer. I found your most recent videos about faceting to be spot on. Ewww, Quartz...lol. I need to email you for some rough that I am looking for.
I'm glad to be of service, and lovely to hear that you've been enjoying my work. and F%&*^@ Quartz
Nice explanation! Enjoyed the video thanks!
Thanks ~ glad it was helpful.
Thank you so much for idia of gemstone
@@JosePalma-j6r glad I can help~
I want to learn how to facet but no machine yet
Getting a taste-test at a lapidary club can be invaluable.
Great points. Round cut looks incredible in Moissanite but when it comes to colored gemstones I really like the square - ish cuts. Ascher, Emerald, Square etc. Am I correct in assuming these give the strongest color?
Step cuts (large facets in general) tend to amplify colour more, rather than scatter light and create scintillation. There are some combined faceting techniques that can do both, but in general you're correct.
I like Old European cut for moissanite
Do you know anything about padparadscha sapphires? I found one that is heat treated with beryllium and I’m wondering what those typically go for. I understand it’s probably not a genuine type of this stone but in any event just wondering what they cost per carat.
I know a few things about padparadscha sapphires, yes. At this stage in history the definition and what labs are designating are two very different things. That said, beryllium treatment I believe rules out the possibility of any LMHC aligned lab giving it the name padparadscha on a report. For prices on your particular stone, you'd need to shop the market.
I purchased a lab made ruby ring recently on sterling silver, the jeweler said it is identical to natural just more perfect cut so you can tell when it's man made since it lacks imperfections. Is that true? And are they really identical just ones man made and costs less?
Synthetic gems by definition are chemically and crystallographically the same as natural stones. Are they identical? There are subtleties that I don't know if I have measurements to explain them with. What I can say is that my most senior gemologist colleagues get a feeling when they look at the stone and then confirm it with the microscope (natural or synthetic inclusions). I think science starts with a basic assumption that: if you can observe a difference, then look for a way to measure it.
So to come full circle on your question, are they identical? Totally? Absolutely not. Identical in many physical ways? yes.
The price difference is going to come down to rarity. They can manufacture as many synthetic stones as they want provided they have the chemical resources, machinery and money for energy (which for flame fusion process is cheap cheap cheap). Natural, high quality rubies are exceptionally rare in nature, which makes them the most expensive coloured stone in the world by weight.
Labs can (and some do) add inclusions and even fractures to mimic natural gemstones. Most notably emeralds, because buyers know natural stones have fractures and inclusions by default. Loupe clean emerald is almost unheard of. There is still a difference between natural and lab inclusions that are detectable, but only a trained professional could tell them apart.
@@DonariaRegia sure ~ with enough ingenuity, scientists can do most anything they want. Often times though its cost-prohibitive to manufacture synthetics just to mimic natural inclusions for deceitful purposes. Flux synthetics (particularly for emeralds) are some of my favourites, and also the most difficult to identify in my experience.
I'm interested in cuts for Lazulite & peridot set in a platnium or palladium for a men's ring, and other sets
And likewise for purple/blue, pink and clear sapphires.
Do you know any reputable lab grown large sapphire suppliers?
If you're looking for lab sapphire, you might check out Tyler Ferrari on instagram @tylerpferrari He does some really cool precision cuts and concave cuts on lab sapphire and many other stones.
Hello.. I found this large men's ring taking the leaves in my yard.. I'm hoping someone can help me with information of what it may be and the age.. please help me identify if it's a diamond or ruby or ect..
I'm having a hard time uploading the picture
Hi Valeria, here is a link to a video that explains the complexity of identifying gemstones without having the stone. Hopefully it helps clarify the situation.
th-cam.com/video/4RxN6GXizsY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PmTk5yWCE6QOu_Gx
Love you´re Videos!
What is you´re favorite bicolor gemstone?
Thanks Thoralf. There's some cool stuff in tourmaline for sure, but bi-colour/ particolour sapphires can be astounding. Theres some Afghan deposits that have ruby-sapphire intergrown. It makes me want to scream. Sometimes I do.
While I love the giant 'gem', I've never particularly favoured round cuts. I like pointy. Marquise, princess, a sharper emerald cut. Maybe that's just a reflection of my 'pointed' personality? I don't really have any soft edges.
Shapes speak to people, definitely. I have significant prejudice when it comes to various ovals and an utter loathing for heart-shapes faceted gems. Abomination I say!
@@GemologyforSchmucks LOL. The heart-shaped ones look cheap, frankly, because they've always been seen on kids' costume jewelry. I do like a nice, slim raindrop, of course, but not the fatter, pear-shaped ones.
Such a cool video!!!
Thanks Phoebe~
What cuts do you think are best for rubies/sapphires?
I think that largely depends on the body colour and tone as well as the original crystal rough. We have to be efficient with those crystals, but we also need to show off their strengths. Dark stones and lighter body colour stones don't have the same advantages with the same types of cuts. Most ruby and sapphire you'll see cut with a mixed cut (brilliant crown and step cut pavilion, often with small facets).
Me i personaly like Asher cut.
Did you hear about the Lagune cut, 89 facets.
It should make the stone more vivid bright. 🤔
Sayonara 👋😄
Asscher cut is a favourite of mine aswel. I've not hear of the the Lagune cut personally, but there are tens of thousands of cutting diagrams and new ones are being made each day.
@@GemologyforSchmucks
The same, i also like the Asher cut.
I would like to get a raw best quality vivid light blue Sapphire and let it cut in Asher shape ( darker then aquamarine)
Then design a men ring and fit it with little best quality briljant cut diamonds surrounding it.
The Ashercut sapphire i would like must be at least 2 carats after cutting.
All can be costly but i have no hurry. 🤗
Btw, the biggest gap in the high end Jewellery world is a special famous line or brand of Men Jewellery !!!
In all gradations.
Silver, gold, platinum.
With real top 10 gemstones.
And maybe with real natural saltwater pearls.😅
5 on mohr grades upwards.
No cubic zirkonia and no rock christal that cant be tested.
The Pandora silver jewellery i like because of their quality finishing, so i see its posible to make good jewellery in high volume. 🤗
I always wondered what determined the shape of the cut now I know thanks Peter!,on a side note if the stone business doesn't pan out with the bandana n waistcoat I'm sure you could get a job as a pirate lol!😂😁✌️
Yeah ~ cutting is a whole other discipline with its own considerations. As to a career in piracy... I might not be opposed to that. Less taxes etc ;)
@@GemologyforSchmucks lol!😁👍
My favorite is the round portuguese cut, the normal round brilliant cut isn't nearly as nice.
There are definitely others that will agree with you. I think both cuts have their place, and even with different gem materials.
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Are you doing well? You don't look well if you're sick. Everything's fine?
Thank you for your concern
I wish you health. I really enjoy watching your channel and I wish it would continue. I have a question: are you able to roughly assess the stones collected in a certain place in Kazakhstan? Link here: th-cam.com/video/5jwHGNToF1k/w-d-xo.html The gold-colored metal found there is tombac - not gold.
Wrong choices can make a bad result.
By definition, absolutely yes.
Nelson isn't a jewish name... Quit the act.
There has never been a claim to be Jewish. As a linguist and lover of languages, it is my pleasure and right to banter in any of the languages that I choose to learn.