How To Install CR Touch on Creality CR-6 SE ! Plus LGX Lite Direct Drive, SKR Mini, NeoPixel RGBW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- Are you looking to take your Creality CR-6 SE (or CR-10 Smart) to the next level? Did your 3D printer become a giant paper weight when your strain gauge sensor failed you? Then this video is for you! In this comprehensive guide, I will show you step-by-step how to modify your CR-6 SE to enhance its performance with the addition of a CR Touch or BL Touch module!
Firstly, I will walk you through upgrading the hotend and extruder. I have designed a Bondetch LGX Lite direct drive extruder setup to now include a 5015 part cooling fan with dual fan ducts, plus a hot end mount that eliminates the strain gauge sensor, and a new mount for the CR Touch. By installing a direct drive extruder, you can achieve greater accuracy and reduce filament jams. I have all of the wiring diagrams, firmware settings, and slicer settings taken care of for you.
The CR Touch bed leveling sensor will be much more reliable than the previous strain gauge sensor. It was the root cause of my first layer adhesion problems when I was previously getting very erratic results. I will show you how to setup the new sensor with the new firmware and touch screen. The result will be the smoothest first layers you've ever experienced.
I will also walk you through the mainboard upgrade to the Big Tree Tech SKR Mini E3 V3 which will allow us to use the CR Touch probe. I have developed a set of "Easy Swap" PCBs that will make the wiring job a breeze. Much of the original wiring harness is retained and you won't have to spend hours making custom wiring harnesses for the whole printer. With the new mainboard I have compiled a custom Marlin configuration and I will provide a detailed guide on how to download and install the latest firmware, as well as demonstrate how to adjust the settings to quickly get started printing again!
As a bonus, I've also installed a Big Tree Tech TFT35 V3.0.1 dual mode touchscreen and some NeoPixel RGBW LEDs that respond to printer events. Like everything else, I have the firmware taken care of to make use of all of these modifications.
You can find the "Easy Swap" PCBs on my website here:
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You can find the latest and greatest CR-6 SE 'X' Print Head here:
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You can find the detailed wiring guide here:
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You can find the 3D printable files for various parts here:
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You can find the firmware here:
► github.com/embracemaking?tab=...
You can find the PrusaSlicer profile here:
► embracemaking.com/blogs/resou...
Keep an eye out for an upcoming video where I perform a similar set of modifications to the CR-6 SE, and another video where I describe the various ways you can use the Easy Swap PCBs if you want to try and upgrade your mainboard but try different ABL sensors or print head setups.
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0:00 Intro
3:15 Print Head
12:45 Aux Board Removal
14:46 Easy Swap Aux Board
17:10 NeoPixel LEDs
18:25 Mainboard Removal
19:30 SKR Mini E3 V3 Install
20:55 Easy Swap Breakout Board
21:41 Mainboard Wiring
27:34 BTT TFT35 Screen
39:14 SKR Mini Firmware
31:05 Printer Maintenance
31:45 PEI Flex Plate Install
33:33 Printer Setup
35:51 First Print
37:06 More Prints
39:33 Super Deluxe Spool Holder
40:27 Outro
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A life saver proyect, i though that i was going to spend weeks disigning solutions to revive my CR6 from the dead.
Glad you found it useful!
I don’t even have a CR6 but wanted to see what you made…man this is wild. I’m surprised this doesn’t have way more views 🤝🏼
Thank you ! Worked hard on this one!
I can appreciate the work you put into this procedure. After watching your video multiple times, I think I want to do this!
I have purchased a Creality Sonic pad as well as a Creality Nebula camera.
The Sonic Pad has taken over the CR-6 SE touchpad.
I want to install a direct drive, with CR-Touch. The new motherboard and the correct flash.
Obviously I don’t want to purchase something I don’t need.
After going through 2 strain gauges, a full direct drive conversion and having now the issue where there was enough movement in the print head from being supported by the strain gauge that my CR6-Max kept digging into the PEI sheet, I was ready to throw my printer in the bin, and accept the loss of a lot of investment in my printer. Saw the kit that Embrace does, figured I would only have to hand make the longer leads between the print head and the top breakout board, and thought "yep, I'll give it a go".
Now have a rock solid print head that doesnt move, a super accurate CR-Touch probe, using klipper so I can take advantage of a 12x12 matrix bed mesh, and my 400x400 printer performs like it never did before. This kit is PERFECT to really make the most of a poor Creality design "feature". I'm so over the moon, thanks!!!!!
Thanks Andrew! Really appreciate the kind words and feedback!
Was it worth it vs just getting a different printer? I have a CR-6 SE that works perfectly fine but I would like to go direct drive, this video popped up but it still looks like quite a bit of work.
@@daylen577 for my 6Max yes, it was worth doing, as I was already at the stage where it needed replacement parts and fundamental changes, and given it has the larger bed than most other printers it was worth the larger investment.
Perfect project man! Even the video's flow and editing...
I am RIGHT NOW on the edge of either destroying or changing everything on my CR6SE, Currently fully dismantled lying on my bed. Even though I generally had minor problems but at unreasonable timings still i am fed up. How is the maintainability of your system over time. And how much time did this project took you, i mean the planning etc. I really liked your work! I am still thinking of doing custom changes that i am going to design, just for the fun (there is no such thing) of it. What would you recommend to your lil bro here, beforehand starting a project like this.
Fantastic! My CR6 SE went up in fumes last night. I figured the motherboard fried (obviously, although the smoke seems to be coming from the touch screen side)
I was thinking of replacing the motherboard with SKR MINI E3 V3. Will I be able to do that using your SE Mainboard Easy Swap PCB Kit while keeping the original carriage with strain gauge? (I might change to CR touch in future but strain gauge worked till now and I'm tight on the budget)
great work, man! I see the USB port slot on the machine is blocked by the new display, is the usb port on the new display used for host/octoprint connections? Also did you have to adjust the vref on the mainboard to accomodate lower amp requirements of the bondtech extruder? I am scared to start this mainly because of the firmware changes I have to do since I don't want to do all the mods in this video. Also I can't wait for your video to show how run klipper with your mods
Thank you for video!
I am making same thing, but cant figure out, you dont use z-axis endstop?
Any chance you can make a mount that works with the new spider v3 hot end?
I just fried my old big tree and decided to go down this rabbit hole with you to try and save my CR6. Purchased both of your kits along with mbo and screen. Wish me luck.
Thanks for everything.
Hello! I just bought this kit from your website. Looking forward to getting rid of that strain gauge sensor 😁
What is the "Big Tree Tech Relay V1.2" used for and is it optional? Don't think it was mentioned in the video.
Edit: I have a CR-6 MAX.
I have a cr6 max and would like to do the same conversion as you did on the cr 6 se do you plan on doing a conversion kit for the Cr 6 max
How compatible is this with the cr6max? Would love to do this to my max.
Would this work with LGX lite v2? bondtech mention that the V2 does not allow a mounting plate between motor and extruder...
Hi, is it possible to use the TFT35 E3.0 display instead of the TFT35 V3.0 display?
Hey there. Will this mod work with the BTT SKR CR6 V1? I have had it installed for a while now and works great. the strain gague is kinda failing and I need a solution.
Finally thanks
Thanks! I put a lot of work into this one!
@@EmbraceMaking You should have added the Cr Touch plug-in to your own motherboard, so it costs a lot. Screen, motherboard, PCB Swap all almost a machine coin. Now I'm converting CR10S to CR6SE and I'm going to create a hybrid machine. Weight meter is working properly, the problem is the bearing screws.
Awesome video! I was losing hope that anyone was still doing anything with the CR-6 SE. The fellow that made the community firmware gave up on it a long time ago. I am curious if you have to print slower now having a direct drive setup, or does it even make a difference over stock? With the upgraded thermistor, are you able to get higher temps or is the stock hot end setup still not good enough for higher temp filaments? And lastly, what part of Canada are YOU from? I'm from BC.
I'm able to print faster with the direct drive. I know the print head will weigh more but it hasn't been an issue and the extrusion is more precise. I'm currently in the process of converting over to Klipper as well so I will be able to perform the input shaping tuning and will have even higher speed and higher quality prints shortly :) (video on that on the way)
@@EmbraceMaking I've heard our touch screen won't work with klipper, is that correct? I'm on a shoe string budget... actually it's more like an old used shoe string budget, so if the screen and creality motherboard can be used with klipper, that would be cool. I really want to take advantage of the input shaping as well.
You’re doing the Lord’s work my friend. I’m liking and subscribing. I have two CR6-SE and they’ve been great, without any of the issues most people report. However, I was looking for a good upgrade project for them and this is it. This is my next project. Thanks.
Good job mate this is awsome, would this all work on my cr6 max?? And if so could I use my sonic pad with it??
Thank you! I don't see it why it wouldn't work on the CR6 max... everything about the max and SE look the same with the exception of the larger build volume. I haven't personally setup the sonic pad with the SKR mini yet but it's on my To Do list. I know of some people out there on the interwebs that have used the Sonic Pad with the SKR mini so it is entirely possible and has been documented. You would just have to set up your config file for your printer dimensions, offsets, etc.
Get it, the only thing you have to do is handmake the longer leads out to the print head from the top breakout board if you cant find premade in that length. I've just finished mine and it took 2 evenings to do start to finish, including handmaking the longer cables with fingers the size of hot dogs :P My Max is so good now. I'm using full Klipper with a Pi4 rather than the sonic pad, but as long as you can do a profile for it, there is no reason it shouldnt work, its identical to the 6SE, just bigger bed dimensions.
Hey!!! Thanks for all of this! I just ordered all the parts… anyone out there running this with Octoprint? Any headaches in setup or is this fully compatible?
I’m new to modding printers and wasn’t sure if Octoprint was just compatible with all the boards.
I don't see why you can't use Octoprint, should be fine. I'm in the process of doing a Klipper conversion with the big tree tech PAD 7 on this machine and the CR10 smart... so that video will drop in the next few weeks
@@EmbraceMaking Got everything up and running about a week ago and it's running amazing. Thanks again!
The only issue I've had so far is a bit of bulging of the corners in my calibration cube using your PrusaSlicer profiles. If I slow down the printer (use the PrusaSlicer profiles CR-6 SE and generic PLA), I'm not getting as much filament on the corners of my prints...
Only thing I could think of removing this would be to run linear advance tests and eventually input shaping?
Nice setup!!...how i can change strain gauge to Cr Touch if i have BTT SKR V1.0?. The strain gauge is great for me, but i want to put a lgx with copperhead and strain gauge is a big problem. Thanks
No problem, so just to be clear is this the SKR V1.0 PICO? Let me know and I can help you out, shouldn't be a problem
@@EmbraceMaking Hi thanks for answer, its a special board created for cr6 se, its BTT SKR V1.0. just that. Right now its descontinued. I have a community firmware too. Works really great, but almost any mods, the strain gauge looks to me and say: Hi dont forget about me!!. Maybe must change the main board, but i will lost community firmware. Thanks again.
Have you tried to see if this works with the Sonic Pad? Or if it's possible to find a way to make it work? I really want both for my CR-10 Smart 😅 especially combined with the bondtech lgx lite
Working on it! I'm going to be hooking this one and the CR10 smart up to the big tree tech version of the sonic pad so I'll have klipper profiles for them soon :)
@@EmbraceMaking lovely! That would probably be what many look for, also that combined with the 3Dfusion linear rails for x and y
Hey! Is there any option to order the stealthburner kit with 5015 blower slot instead of 4020? (altough i just ordered the kit) I’m planning to rebuild my cr6 max, and I really love the stealth burner system. Already have one on my system but it has a 5015 on top.
also can you fit a 4010 hotend fan in the case instead of the stock 30?
Thank you for your answer
Hey thanks for the question. Just so it's clear this isn't a stealthburner kit - the aesthetic design took inspiration but I just want to make sure if you order you don't feel as though it is misrepresented. Anyways, unfortunately the answer is no to both of your questions. The 5015 blower was quite a bit larger and started to make the print head huge - same with the 4010 hotend fan. Everything was pretty compact in this design
@@EmbraceMaking thanks for the quick reply. Yes I’m aware it’s not an actual stealth burner. I just call it that way because of the design 🤓. I understand, I think the 4020 and the 3010 should give a decent cooling. Like the design, pretty simple, like the way the shroud is completely aligned with the nozzle, that was my main concern with my SB setup, it’s not completely centered.
Excited to install it and completely redo my CR6max. Although it work’s pretty much fine, even the level gauge, but for some reason I hate the fact that the can “move” a little. I did install a washer on the left side of the gauge which was a huge game changer, but I kinda wanna get rid of it. Only difference is, I’ll strip the machine completely, rewire everything, so I won’t need the extra control and split boards anymore, just straight to the mcu. Plus linear rail for the x y axis. My z rods are pretty much fine, so I left that out, I have more issue with the bed noise and layer shift above 500mm/s travel acceleration. So hopefully this rebuild will fix my problems.
can i use this without the cl touch, and keep using the stock leveling system for now....and maybe upgrade things a needed?? Also mine is on klipper using a sonicpad, so im not so inclined to change the mainboard just yet until i figure see how easily i can use the sonicpad with the newer board later on....thanks
With the PCB kit you can swap the mainboard and re-use the strain gauge sensor if you want - however I have yet to have someone do this. In terms of the print head kit, you cannot use the strain gauge sensor with the printhead kit since the mounting bracket that holds the hotend + cr touch also holds the fan shroud.
do i connect spirite extruder pro how to connect spirit pro to easy swap auxiliary board ? or to the BTT SKR mimi ?
You'll have to just match up the connectors but they should all be there on the auxiliary board. It's all the same equipment, extruder motor, cr touch, thermistor, hot end etc
Bro, you made a new 3D printer, this is not CR-6 SE anymore.
Notice the other comments regarding Sonic Pad compatibility. Any luck with it?
I haven't done it personally, but have had other people make it work on the CR10 smart version of this mod. So it should work on the CR6SE as well. Sonic pad profiles exist for the SKR Mini so those are great jumping off points. You will have to edit the config file though for things like the extruder esteps and thermistor type etc. In the next few weeks I'm going to set up both the CR 10 smart and the CR6 SE with the Big Tree Tech Pad 7 (their version of the sonic pad) so there will be a video on that :)
@@EmbraceMaking great! Look forward to the video. Much appreciated.
Yes it does connect to sonic pad.
Will this also work with Microswiss all-metal hotend?
It should as they appear to be dimensionally identical.
Any chance we can use the sprite did extruded with ur boards?
You should be able to. All of the connection points are there. I forget what size connectors the sprite comes with but worst case you have to repin or change some connectors to get them to plug in. Then in the firmware you would just need to make sure you have the right thermistor selected, change your probe offset, and change your e steps.
Am I buying the stl files or are they already made
They would be fully printed and include the necessary hardware, thanks! The product page has what is included / not included when you scroll down the page. Thanks!
i love stuff like this but at some point how much is enough when it comes to spending....by the time i do all thes emight as weel get one of hte newer printers....sucks i know.....but it just dosnt make much sense when u spend 200-300 on upgrades, i really am trying to justify these but the work and monet makes little sense unless stuff starts failing and u can get parts one by one...
Ultimately that is for you to decide. I understand what you're saying but I liken 3D printer modifying to car modifying (which I used to be heavily into). In the car world there are people out there who just want to buy the Corvette and drive it off the lot and that is where their interest ends. Then there are others who enjoy the journey of building their own car. They start with something less expensive (or even broken) and over time spend enough money that they could have bought the Corvette. However, they end up building something unique and personal and they get their enjoyment from this process and learn so much along the way. The same can be said for 3D printers, you just have to decide what route you want to take :)
I know this so well since ive been modding an s15 silvia for 17 years now.....and im never done, one thing im wary is since i already have the soncipad setup how do i get klipper back if i do this mod...i already order the lgx lite@@EmbraceMaking
You can actually use the sonic pad with the SKR mini, there are profiles for it and it is doable so you won't lose klipper!
Will this fit on the cr6-max?
Hi Simon, it appears that it should. I don't have a CR6 max but from what I can see the only difference is the overall print volume
@EmbraceMaking cool, I will look further into this. I already have the lgx lite and microswiss and was about to try investigate possibly using klipper and CAN Bus to include the bl/cr touch. I'll let you know if I use your kit how it goes :)