THE Podcast Daily: Ohio State, Michigan second look leaves no better feeling than first viewing
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- THE Podcast Daily is back for Monday, Nov. 28, 2022.
It's a Monday after an Ohio State game an that means THE Podcast's Bill Landis and Jeremy Birmingham are going a little deeper into what they saw on Saturday.
Spoiler alert: a second look at the Buckeyes 45-23 loss over Michigan wasn't any better than the first.
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@20:00 Cade Stover didn't "drop the ball" in the end zone. Sainristil made an unbelievable play and broke it up.
He made the best PBU of the season and I'd argue the most important play of the game, or at least the most momentum shifting play. Or maybe I just love Mikey Sainristil.
Good call. Why can’t we just say. Damn they kicked our butts. Beat down. Destroyed…we lost.
Michigan fan here loving this humbleness! Glad u guys got to see this in your backyard! Go Blue
Everything was on the line in this game. Win this game and you are B1G champs, CJ wins Heisman and we play TCU in the CFP in the Fiesta Bowl. This is most disastrous loss imaginable.
Go Blue 〽️〽️😂
Sorry we ruined all that for ya...not really 😂 🤣 Go Blue
What do you mean? All of those things happened. Michigan won and will play for the B10 chip, then play TCU in the fiesta bowl.
Oh yeah, the Heisman part sucks. But next year, JJ probably wins that too!
No it is not. We just do not admit nor recognize how damn great that Michigan Offensive Line is and how no team is going to stop it. Near perfect pass blocking...Perfect Run Blocking. A true National Championship caliber team...
@@richardhenkle8188 Thanks for the acknowledgement; OSU has become too much of a pretty, fast, skilled player based team. UM is now smash mouth with a great Defense. Next man up is their motto for the offense. We do need OSU to be tougher. The rivalry matters. We are back and I am glad.
I really didn't want to hear anything more about OSU football after Saturday, but love the show, so here I am.
Michigan fan here. I admire your passion and love you have for your team.
I bet u dont
Your friendly neighborhood Wolverine in the house.....GO BLUE!!!
How UM beat the utter snot out of Ohio, with Corum on the bench is beyond me.
And at home to boot?????
Unreal.
The last time we had creative playcalling was 2020 Clemson
Donavon Edwards looked like he was trying out for the UM track team in the 2nd half
😂😂😂😂😂 GO BLIE 💪🏼
Go Blue! 😂😂😂
Donovan
@@mark3684 Blue
Donovan Edward ran wild against Ohio state 🏈 2022:
I think you just have to tip the cap too Michigan. They had the perfect game plan. Big plays in the first half in the passing game which no one say coming. It opened up the running game in the second half.
That wasnt planed ..you give them too much credit..
@@jacenkun2931 you crazy if you think that wasn’t planned. That’s not something on the fly, JJ MCCARTHY even said they made no adjustments they had an entire game plan laid out for OSU
@@misterceo2168 Exactly, they knew that Corum probably couldn't go and would need to throw to win. We just didn't think they could when they had to.
@@tracypayne2026 Bingo!
@@jacenkun2931 Ohio State won 7 in a row. Michigan now 2 in row. This is rivalry things swing make small adjustments firing Ryan Day is idiotic
Let Kevin Wilson do his job! Let him call the plays! He's got a pretty good track record.
Kevin Wilson decided that the head coaching job at Tulsa would be a better coaching opportunity than to remain the offensive coordinator at Ohio State. I'm a Michigan fan and I'm having a very difficult time processing this. In normal circumstances I don't see anyone doing that. This leaves Ohio State in a rather bad light, IMHO.
Ryan Days play calling has held this team back all season. Would love to see a breakdown of WR Screens & Shotgun toss plays all year. If those plays are a net +, I’d be shocked.
It's weird...now michigan is a good well coached team ...the last 4 years all I hear is how day and the buckeyes outclass michigan in every way .not even In the same area
What's not be ignorant in 2016 and 2018 Michigan had well coached teams coming into Columbus. Somebody had the Buckeyes more confident more aggressive and very much ready for the Rivalry and they played like it. And they won those two games when they probably shouldn't have. Can we say Ryan Day could do that? No we just had evidence of it he can't. What makes anyone think he's going to take Ohio State into Michigan next year when a young team brand new quarterback and win...?? It's not going to happen we all know that he will be one and three and people want him fired again and we all know he should have been fired this week. The only way I will get off the fire Ryan Day train is if they get into the playoffs and he beats Michigan in the playoffs I don't see it happening I don't even think they win their bowl game
I know everyone needed a minute after a loss like this, to that team. But finally all of you are making videos, and sharing your insight! I've calmed down a lot mentally.. I am still upset and just sick to my stomach, but I am not pissed off
Michigan!....that's what you meant to say. AKA your daddy🤣
Crazy I feel the exact opposite of that. Not upset emotionally, stomach feels great, still pissed off corum didn't get his 5 tds in the shoe. :)
@@dowhatiwanttruthseeker4440 Ohio State has been Michigan's daddy so long that Michigan is now in college after being raised by OSU the last 18 years. But in victory or defeat, Michigan fans have and will continue to be smug asshats. I guess to call this a rivalry, Michigan was going to have to win a couple to keep things relevant.
42-27 & 45-23....ALEX
I'm still pissed off about the 1969 game.
Day choked with his play calling he called a basic Indiana game why’ll Harbaugh called the game like his life was on the line. OSU got out coached period.
It only felt like that to y’all. But to be honest we ain’t do nothing special just feasted on a weak secondary and the O Line turned up in the 2nd half. Looked like we was playing Hawaii out there
Thought: Jim Harbaugh was accurate in his insult, Ryan Day is only 3 1/2 years into his first ever head coaching gig and got the keys to a Ferrari. He’s kept in on the road and won a lot. But its hard to learn from wins.
Jim has run both pro and college programs. It took him almost a decade to rebuild UM.
Ryan had a LOT to learn as a head coach. 🤷♂️
Hail the victors!!! Go blue!
Michigan ran 60 offensive plays. They averaged 70 yards/play on 5 TDs and 3.29 yards/play for the other 55 plays. How one team can play that well and that poorly on the same day is obviously down to poor coaching and leadership.
Our kids played hard for three and a half quarters.
That this team lost their composure and any semblance of a competitive edge in the 4th quarter (at home in The Game) is the most concerning thing I saw Saturday.
Them stats don’t mean nothing they got out schemed and out toughed . OSU consistently put 9 10 in the box all day and got beat up front all day and on offense Michigan played sound defense and except for 1 stupid call trying to blitz from 20 yards back kept everything in front of them and made good tackles all day. Harrison and Ebuka both had a touchdown apiece in the first half and ended up with 100 meaningless non impact yards. 2 years straight Michigan dominated this game.
The rationalization as it pertains to the big plays is ….funny
I was at the game. It was a crushing defeat. Not just the score, but mentally, spiritually, metaphysically…. To walk out of there with 100K fans in barely contained rage was awful. And the anger was not directed at TTUN, but at Ryan Day.
Standing in C deck, I watched them plant the M Flag on the Block O as OSU Players walked past them with their heads down showed a complete lack of pride. If the buckeyes have a crap, there would have been a fight then and there.
Never forget that happened on Ryan Day’s watch.
Exactly! That’s the pathetic part about it. We literally watch them plant a flag and did nothing about it. We’re soft and scared and that’s a reflection of our program the HC set.
Be happy it was only a flag at the block O.......the way Ohio played the Wolverines should have dropped their pants and dropped a deuce midfield.
Ohio play like dog crap.
GO BLUE!!!
Maybe people are forgetting 7 Michigan State players facing charges for what you geniuses are suggesting. Once the game is over they become civilians like everyone else.
You can't call them TTUN when they blew you out twice in a row. You have to call us Daddy Wolverines now by law of rivalries.
@@sethchandler4170 False. Under Title IV Section 2005.56 of the Rivalry Code, we reserve the right to refer to that school as Bitchigan, Xichigan, or TTUN until someone from your school wins two heismans
13:40...Michigan fans know EXACTLY what you were watching. Watched it for 4 seasons under Don Brown to the tune of 62 then 56 points allowed in The Game is final 2 years. Puhhhhlease keep Knowles for at least 4 more years!
This is so awesome. I just want to roll around in this and make snow angels in it.
We've seen this movie before. We're more interested in how many 4 and 5 star players we have on the field. We need to focus on how many real football players we have. We give these guys more credit than they are do. Earn it on the field. We need to be more of a "show me how good you are". These guys are celebrated way too much before they've done anything to earn it. It doesn't build a team with one mindset.
You’re absolutely correct. A bunch of divas. Go Blue 💪🏼
Agree!
The game began to change half way through the 2nd quarter. Yes, OSU had the lead at the half, but, you could see and feel the game change when Michigan hit on 2 long passing TD's. Michigan knew they could hit those passes and it opened up the run game afterwards. Michigan opened the 3rd with another long passing TD. Their confidence was through the roof from that point on.
Ohio didn’t miss opportunities Michigan took them away it’s time to admit the better built team won
As a Michigan fan, it's interesting to hear the other view of the game. Good podcast. I do think Day choked a little on his play calls and like you said, got too cute on some calls.
Did Harbaugh "figure it our" or did he benefit from Day's bad coaching?
Benefited from days bad coaching
Want to know why it went off the rails, you guys are the example. Humbleness, Ohio has Humbled Michigan for too long and now the shoe is on the other foot and it's Ohio's time to learn how to be humble. Saying they went in at the half disappointed Ohio wasn't up more....look where that got them. The Bucks and the fans need to learn that lesson. Enjoy your humble pie. Go Blue.
Once again, thanks for what you do. I love your show. Can you guys have one show dedicated to Q&A?
Maybe you guys are right that there was an overreaction to this loss, but all year we’ve heard how great this offense is and that this team has the first pick at QB in the next draft. That team just got embarrassed by a team who’s missing an extremely significant piece of their offense. I don’t think the calls for firings are unwarranted
Yes 1st and 35 was the turning point of the game
No. The turning point was the PI call on Hickman in the endzone.
@@ricks7990you think that was a bad call?
The turning point was the second half…
No particular play or flag, just Michigan goes Beast Mode in the second half.
@@spectre244mc all the P.I. calls on OSU were legit,... and huge plays.
There were too many bonehead plays of all kinds.
Most troubling for me, was M interviews that claims our guys quit halfway through the third quarter.
They're right they did
M Interviews?
Wasn't a claim more of an observable fact.
No.. MICHIGAN IS JUST FLAT OUT BETTER 😎
Physically they did not but emotionally you could see it because in no way did they expect to be down in there own stadium to Michigan 2 years in a row. Quit is a strong word but only the players on the field can see what we cannot. Michigan sucked the energy outta everybody in that stadium including the players.
why give hartline a pass? outside of marv who has hartline recruited and developed? olave and wilson were zach smith’s recruits.
the receivers dont block and dont get open in man coverage… that is on hartline
I agree! I would also add in the repeated and untimely drops this season.
Exactly right. Because most fans are arrogant they only blame Day and Stroud. Blame goes to everyone after that performance.
Playing cover 0 after Corum goes out will be one of the worst decisions in this rivalry. When the offense stalled early, the D was still playing well. Once the missed tackled occurred, the game changed. No other way to put it.
Go blue!
needed to go to zone defense after shutting down the run
Birm I would like to see you guys do a call-in show or have a Q&A type of show once a week. Other than that you guys continually hit it out of the park with your insight and content. Your staff is extremely talented and I never take any of you for granted. Go Bucks!!!
There's a reason this channel is so successful. Birm's one of the best In The biz. LR peeps followed him here.
@@lindzbreezyoh Couldn't agree more with you. Birm is a guy I feel most anyone could hang out with. All this is spite Saturdays huge disappointment 😞
Kids today are not the kids of yesterday!!! Jack Youngblood played the Super Bowl with a broken leg, that won’t happen today!!! We had more talent Saturday and choked!!! A transfer linebacker just turned running back was successful and we didn’t ride him to a win like Trey Sermon???
don't forget about the Gee Scott headbutt that ended any momentum OSU had
Yeah, 1st and 35 is a definitive momentum killer and hard to overcome right at the beginning of the 2nd half...
@@craighofmann638 From first down at Michigan's, what, 30 yard line to first and 35 from OSU's 25 in a blink. They killed themselves all around. Here's where I leave it though (for my mental state probably): All teams have injuries but this year seemed to hit key players at key spots. I won't list the players, we all know who they are. This year started as a potential title run and wait until 2023 to thinking this was THE year. Next year still sets up as THE year with the D championship level. I'm sick about the loss. Just stunned. An entire season erased by one loss. I hate sports.
Yeah that was ridiculous.
Ryan Day called plays completely different his first 3 years. Something has changed, he has gotten very Tressel esk…. Without the defenses Tressel had. And for Stroud he has no dawg in him. JT Barrett would have never let it go down like that. We all keep saying we want Stroud to run more but when he try’s it’s like watching Bambi try to walk on ice.
Stroud is soft; someone will make a terrible mistake expecting him to lead a franchise
He didn't have a QB who was afraid of playing football his first 3 years
@@OSUgrad day recruited stroud and started him. Yes Stroud is soft but that’s on Day for bringing him into the program
@@AlphaBuckeye As an MSU fan you can't blame him for starting a top 5 QB in the nation lol. Michigan is just supremely coached on both lines, but especially their O-line and tight ends. I Pray Mel tucker can match that physicality in the next few years because Michigan looks PROFESSIONAL. You guys at OSU will be fine once you dissect tape and adjust with new hires because you have so much talent. Somebody on michigans staff is making incredible adjustments.
@@jrparker4804 folks in the media who run water for Day wants to wait for us to lose a few more Michigan games before that happens. As long as OSU is 11-1 and beating up on bums their cool with it
Bill is right about the playmaking ability at the QB position that has held them back.
79 out of CJ's 75 rushing yards this season were against Northwestern. He's really good in a soft pocket, probably also good in practice. He doesn't need to run for 100 yd/gm, but 30 per game changes everything
Because CJ was scared of the line of scrimmage, the defense knew it was a pass if it wasn't handed off. Also, if he scrambled the defenders dropped into coverage rather than chasing him.
We've been saying this all year, but cheerleaders and this channel were saying how it's not CJ's job to run.
You know what. You right. I just remember noticed that. When they run a PA or simply a pass the lb would jump it then immediately go into coverage. They knew they wanted to pass and that he wouldn’t run or try to
I said the same, u have to run 🏃🏾♂️ to put pressure on the Defense
As a Michigan fan........try to imagine 20 years of this
Fellow Buckeye fans are putting far too much emphasis in failures and not seeing just how damn good that Michigan Offensive Line is and how it is the catalyst for every success on that team. Average QB looks Great, Above average backup RB looks amazing....all from near perfect pass blocking and Perfect Run Blocking. Buckeye fans have a hard time seeing that Michigan is the best team in College Football and instead keep focusing on how "Bad" we are as the 2nd to 5th best team...
@@richardhenkle8188
Well....depending on the outcome Saturday night...( USC,TCU) they may find out again.
Michigan 🏈 rebuilding in 2024
Michigan was missing their best players on offense and defense and still won. That should tell you everything about the line play. They were not owning the lines in the first half. JJ never got sacked and was hardly pressured. OSU was 8-9 in the box and we had our 3rd and 4th string backs (Edwards hardly played in the first half).
Facts
They are snorting that copium. Denial is hard.
How do we get Day to look in the mirror? He's killing us with his play calling. Turn over the play calling duties to Kevin Wilson and get out of the way. Defensively.....sigh.....I suppose we need to give Knowles a chance to get more of his players on board but so far, pretty disappointed.
Promote Brian hartline to oc
Yeah Knowles really did good things this season with the defense despite whatever corners he had to work with.. let’s see what recruits he brings in, and I really hope to see Chip and Dallan get a fair shot.. I agree with what you are saying about day calling plays.. we all know it and I believed last season was enough, this season was enough before the wolverines. Guess not, now it has to be enough.. it has to be about the program and players before his own pride. Kind of feel like he wasted stroud for 2 years with the stubbornness. We have all the pieces.
Cornerback coaching is atrocious. Teaching them not to turn and look for the ball is incorrect. They don’t know the route tree. Football IQ is non-existent.
Ryan Days first head coaching job. Facts are nobody has done less with more than Day. This program is circling the drain.
Something needs to be said about the WRs. They don’t block well and they, with exception to Marvin, can’t get open against man to man defense. Hartline has some work to do as well.
Let Ryan Day give up play calling is not easy but NECESSARY. He’s going to be a better HC and give his team new strength in the following games and years.
@@jrparker4804 dude shut up 45-5 who you going to replace him with 🤡
He does not need fired yet …he took us to 11-1 …..people need fired when we stop having winning season …11-1 is close but not good enough …therfore u don’t stop winning u make adjustments and changes into why that 1 loss keeps happening .
Urban was Ohio states best coach and he passed Ryan day the torch …I trust urban Meyer….Ryan needs to reach out and get some pointers from urban and get his ass on recruiting better defense and a duel threat qb period
@@rickeychavarria2771 Jim tressel was OSU best coach one natty three appearances not even close buddy
@@rickeychavarria2771 We had this same conversation last season and look we’re back at square one all over. Ryan record is 45-5 but when you throw context at it, it’s not impressive considering 90% of those wins are vs inferior teams with an ounce of Ohio State talent. When he plays teams with equal talent he folds. Outside of that Clemson win back in 2021 it’s been pretty bad.
We made JJ look like a MUCH better QB than he is. Sickening.
😂😂😂😂😂 I just keep coming back to this 😂😂😂😂
I agree that the game changed on the 1st and 35 but I had forgotten that the original play went for 25 yards to chip. A 50 yard swing!!! 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for watching it a second time. It reinforced my decsion to delete the game on my DVR upon returning from my trip.
Day called a much more aggressive Offense when he was the coordinator….now as HC the play calling is suspect….IMO
This is why good programs don’t hire coordinators as a head coach
Yes. And I wonder if in his first year, he was still using his offensive coordinator instincts.
Also, it was his first year and the pressure he was a tad lower.
Now he’s overthinking & trying to prove stuff .
"Day is learning on the fly while driving a Ferrari"
So you're saying someone started on third thinking they hit a triple? 🤔
I want to know why Dallan Hayden didn’t play much on Saturday?? That made me upset as it would’ve taken some of that so-called pressure off of the offense.
I agree but Chip was actually running pretty tough.
The running game was solid regardless of who was in there, they just stopped doing it
I'm as upset as everyone but here it is.... Ryan days system needs a dual threat QB. I'm not knocking CJ he's good but when you take that away it's a disadvantage, and I also believe that has alot to do with ryans aggressiveness, justins legs let ryans playbook open. Our secondary fundamentals have been an issue since 2020. I know there trying to change it but knowing that's an issue I don't understand the play calling after we were burned twice and our front 6 were winning. And the penalties are unacceptable period.
Separate note, but Landis and all the media folks just repetitively mentioning Corum was out, NEVER mention the best WR (JSN) in the country plus OSU's RB1 were also out and have been.
And mentioning that would of have done what exactly? Smith-njigba hasn't played since September...cry more
They had all 3 last year, and Michigan still whooped that a$$.....stop making excuses.
🤡
Landis said it because OSU's defense wasn't going against OSU's offense.
It was 2018 Don Brown D except this time OSU was on short end... I argued this B12 style D would be fine in B10 but it is a lot like Browns D am I wrong?
HELLO BUCKNUTS!!! TTUN LOVES YA 😘😘😘
I was there at game with family-first time for 35 years-and I was excited in first half as we were controlling the line of scrimmage and running ball well in first half-thought we had game in bag. So disappointed with play calling and personnel decisions. Where was Dallan? Why Martinez in after crappy playing last week? Just so frustrated--really thought this was our year given our talent--tired of underperforming and I put 80% on coaches.
The criticism of OSU's playcalling reminded me of my view of M in 2018. M just figured then they'd just keep doing the same thing they did all season with no wrinkles and seemed surprised it didn't work on OSU. You have to save some things for The Game.
Birm, you're losing me. You thought CJ handled himself great after the game? The kid played the victim. "Poor me, poor me". He DOESNT GET IT. He said this game doesn't define us. This is all you play for. In a year when the B1G was down and we were favored by 40 points basically every game we played. Yes , this game defines you. CJ will always be that california kid who came to ohio state that said "I'm not a running back" and lost to michigan twice. Just glad I don't need to hear his gospel every post-game anymore.
Listen to these guys...shoulda, woulda, coulda.. Ohio State should have been up by 3 scores at halftime? How do you figure that when you couldn't make a tackle on a simple down and out and then left a guy wide open by 20 yards on a post?
hold it guys. In 2014 you played Wisconsin and beat them 59 - 0. You were fine with that. And that was for the conference championship for petes sake. Not just the last game of the regular season. And if I remember correctly didn't you guys have a lot of long td passes to Smith, a huge long run by Elliott, a scoop and score by your defensive end. You guys loved that. Wisconsin lost by 59 points. Saturday you lost by 22 points and not in the championship game! I really think you need to be better sports. What do you want in a rivalry for your team to win every friggin game. That is not a rivalry. Get real! It's good that the Wolverines are back. Remember the 10 year war! That my friends was a rivalry! Maybe you are to young to remember. But I'm not.
OSU was too overconfident had no respect for McCarthy and forgot how tough Michigan was in the interior . Michigan was ranked 1st in scoring rushing and 5th against the pass. And Donovan Edward’s showed all year how explosive he was behind corum. OSU too stubborn to come outta that man 1 defense. Marvin Harrison And Ebuka had 100 meaningless yards just like the receivers last year Stroud had 349 yards again on like close to 50 attempts all meaningless yards . The 2 touchdowns came in the first half. So Michigan kept everything in front of them to force him into 3rd down. It’s a simple game and OSU made no adjustments
Ohio State got out played and out coached. . .
Ryan Day has done this screen shit all year. He's been so predictable all year nothing has changed. CJ has always struggled in big games.
Why since Urban left has it felt like we almost completely eliminated the jet sweep which literally works every time? Give Emeka the ball with a head of steam and speed to get the corner. Never seen it get less then 5 yards. It also completely opens up everything up the middle because it streches the LB's out to defend for that.
Ryan Day coaches like he recruits. Soft and scared. The last time our team was tough, fearless and dominant was 2019. That team was full of Urban recruits. Having a 45-5 record isn’t impressive when you throw context at it. Racking up wins vs inferior teams but losing to teams with equal talent is a huge huge red flag.
Should've, would've, could've. Michigan was confident going in, and it showed. You didn't score 28 in the first half...because they stopped you. It's that simple. The first drive of the game was bs, and the refs refused to call several false starts, and holds. Then the phantom face mask call on the 2nd drive put them in FG range. They gave them an easy TD with the bad defensive call to blitz the safety. This game wasn't even as close as you think it was. It was a typical first half from a Michigan opponent this season, you managed to be in the game, and got NOTHING 2nd half.
The defense employed Saturday reminded me of the Schiano scheme. Way too aggressive crashing LBs and DB to LOS resulting in giving up big plays. First OSU game where the game plan on offense and defense both failed in epic fashion
arrogance or ignorance - not sure which
Ideas:
- Deep dive into players, one by one, recruiting, how they got here, how they are progressing, and NFL potential.
- Film breakdown of big games and how you think OSU will address the issues
- Fan "roundtables" where some lucky individuals can join and talk about the season from their perspective with former players and such
- Similar, "question of the week" be the actual fan who asked who can dig more into their question with followups
- Player interviews and NIL related exposure
More Birminology/Talking stuff, DBs we should go after in the transfer portal, and Transfer portal news like if we lose a player to it or get one from it
We got CBs that can't tackle
Knowles also said OSU had some surprise looks for Michigan saved up. No you didn’t lmao. Same aggressive man defense and burnt you numerous times to seal the game up. No adjustments made to help the players out whatsoever. Outcoached plain and simple
Buckeye nation is too mesmerized by stars. "How many stars does this player have? How many stars does that player have? Okay, put him on the field and keep him there no matter how ineffective he is because he's a 5-star recruit." Stars, stars, stars. Talent, talent, talent. Time and again this season, Henderson and Williams couldn't get one and two yards when they were needed. Trayanum comes in and does nothing but gash MICH over and over again in the first half, and Buckeye nation is screaming, "Get him out! Put back in our delicate 5-stars because they're 5-stars." OHST clearly needs RBs in the vein of Saban's Heisman-winning backs last decade, not RBs that dance and pirouette their way to the perimeter: bulldozers and bruisers. If MICH wants to play smash-mouth football/bully ball, OHST needs to get bulldozers for bell cows of its own and tell MICH, "Okay, I'll meet you on the block."
As a Michigan fan, I approve this message. Respect my dude! That's the kind of thinking that makes this the best rivalry. We can all talk smack but when it comes to it, we love when this game comes around because it's the best rivalry in ALL sports!
CJ Stroud is from California, JJ MCCARTHY is from Lagrange Park Illinois and Donovan Edwards is from West Bloomfield Michigan. It just means more to our kids
I agree with you. CJs post game presser was quoted "this game doesn't define us". What is he thinking saying that to buckeye nation. This game is what we all wait for. I'm tired of west coast kids.
@@rayserifi8683 Wait until Lincoln Riley comes to the horseshoe with all those 5 star west coast kids and hangs 50 on O-State. Then say something about West Coast football
Nonsense. JT Barrett and JK Dobbins are from Texas. They seemed to care enough to beat Michigan on multiple occasions.
@@frankgoldman3313 thank you for making sense.
Ohio state has to have a duel threat qb …stroud is good but he doesn’t scramble that’s how fields won us games that how barret won us games and that’s how cardell jones won us the championship as a 3rd string cause he could run
Birm couldn’t agree with you more, Ryan Day is perfect for Ohio State and CJ is an incredible young man who would you rather have then him at QB !! Some of the “Stuff” I’ve seen is crazy !! Go Bucks
1 word U N D I S C I P L I N E D!!!!!!°°°°
How about “coddled”….??
WOW,I am upset,disappointed and mad about this game but reading all these comments are depressing because it just makes our team seem like it's a mess right now...win or lose I support & love my buckeyes anyway...Go Buckeyes!!!
Ryan Day’s play calling is continually getting more predictable and vanilla. The most mediocre DC’s in the country figure it out pretty quickly. They typically don’t have the athletes to keep up or the depth to hang I. The second half. Well, this is what you get when you meet teams with just as much talent and depth. It is embarrassing and disgusting. A new OC that effectively call plays is a must.
Short list of quarterbacks (check out their TH-cam highlights) who are twice the athlete Stroud is (sorry, C.J) and who will do ANYTHING to get first downs and move the ball down the field. Even if it means - gasp! - running the ball 5-10 yards: Caleb Williams (USC, and Heisman winner this year). Jordan Travis (Florida State), Jayden Daniels (LSU), Dorian Thompson-Robinson (UCLA), Max Duggan (TCU), Bryce Young (Bama), Bo Nix (Oregon), Mike Penix (Washington), Cameron Rising (Utah), Will Levis (Kentucky), etc. Say what you want, but J.T. Barrett was a warrior who would do anything to win, and he was a helluva leader. Also, I look for Hayden to enter the portal based on who is coming back next season and for being so disrepected last Saturday..... We shall see.
Thanks for the coverage you two provide. Always enjoy this segment. BIRM, If you ever decide to re-watch the game. Pay attn to the punt alignment on the 4th and 11 after the snap infraction. It was obviously supposed to be a fake punt, and more than likely we would have had a big gain there and possibly a score. Every dude was on the same page, aside from the long snapper. Ryan Day WAS staying aggressive there. It just wasn't executed properly.
Why can’t these two dudes understand that Michigan has been a GREAT second half team all season. Instead they say they “don’t know” what happened?! 🙄 Michigan just dominated y’all that’s it!
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It’s a big issue right now.
Clearly someone has a confrontation issue. Ryan Day
When people on podcasts see the same plays are always run out of the same formations, and the coaches don't acknowledge it or see it as a problem, is a big problem.
Something inside Woody needs to change. The number of personal fouls is really bad it's a sign of an undisciplined team. Gee Scott would NEVER see the field in a game again if I were the HC. If he transfers I'm just perfectly fine with that.
Long time fan of Birm, Austin and now Bill. 65 years young, born and raised, scarlet and gray! 37:55 in. Yes, Yes and Yes! My biggest disappointment was that a team captain and quarterback would make a statement after that beat-down that this one game doesn't define them? That is a real problem with the culture of this current program because, we love you CJ but. THAT GAME IS WHAT DEFINES US, THEM, and BUCKEYE NATION!!! The statement made me understand that the players don't truly understand, and it showed in the second half.
I now believe the biggest advantage Michigan has is the coaching. Hearing all the accolades everyone (not just this show) shower down on a group that hasn’t won anything shows a lot of homer talk. Ohio state lost by 3 TDS at home and in perfect weather when Michigan’s heisman candidate was out. Plenty of average coaches can win 10 games with ohio state players/resources etc. elite coaches win big games. I say this with the understanding ohio state was favored twice in back to back years and choked.
The Cade stover drop in the end zone on 3rd down in the 4th was the turning point. Should have went for it instead of the field goal. Ryan day played timid and scared like he knew he was gonna lose. Players didn’t believe in his coaching
Agree! Fan friends from other teams commented that our team, particularly offense, were playing nervous and tight
I believe some defender made a great play on that pass to Stover. I wish we could find some dbs like Okudah,Lattimore,Ward,Hooker,Fuller. Does anyone remember when receivers feared catching a pass over the middle when Jack Tatum paroled the Ohio State defense? Wow. Terminator. What happened to the rugby tackling OSU did when Chris Ash ran the D? It wasn't perfect but it was a lot more dependable than the Knowles " we don't practice tackling" wtf?
The ball got there late, allowed #0 time to get there. Go blue!
Drop? Mikey Sainristil made an unbelievable PBU. Give credit where credit is due.
As a play caller, Ryan Day is no match for these defensive coordinators from the NFL that Harbaugh keeps getting from his brother.
Run the ball.
I’m a defensive guy. I watched a subpar QB throw up a few prayers. He actually couldn’t believe guys were running this wide open. I have a few questions for the DB Coach and DC. Technique was awful in the secondary, no eye discipline. The same can be said for the box. Guys not being gap sound. 2 players in the same gap post snap.
Nice analysis guys. Great point Jeremy. The Knowles defense and the Day offense have to be complimentary. Day called a tentative, settled for offensive game. We didn’t adjust to the changes in this game. The final point is DISCIPLINE. The Buckeyes looked unfocused and undisciplined. Too many penalties and bone-head plays. Go Bucks
Always wondered why G Scott didn't get more PT, I saw the reason Saturday. Also, why didn't Dallan start or at least get most of the touches? Injured?
All these many discussions and analyses are important. I hope and pray that by NEXT WEEK the team and fellow Buckeye fans will put this behind us and realize that we need to win the next game and redeem this season. If USC loses, I have no doubt that Ohio State will be playing Georgia in the Semifinals and I call upon every one of you to lose the Negativity and complaints and help the team on HOW TO WIN.
This guy Birm it’s something else! I’m not making any excuses, then lays out about 10 excuses 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😂😂😂😂😂
Let's call this what it was. The team quit. I don't know if there is a riff between the players and coaches. We're the players mad at the play calling?
2021 we had the #7 scoring D in the Big. This year we are 6th...
Knowles is a nice guy but we will never beat ttun with him! He's our Don Brown! Go get the guy from Illinois his 3 star guys smack you and he can hold M to 25 points or less!
I love the somber pain exhibited here. 😂😂😂
This isn't the first time I've asked this. Why if you have 5 safeties and good or decent receivers keep getting behind the defense? And why do you still have 5 safeties in the game when you know teams are going to run the ball?
You didn't really watch the game, but you are on this podcast to do what?
The botched fake punt on 4th in 6th was the nail in coffin. Day needed to leave the offense on the field and trust his Heisman qb to the yardage
I agree,Go blue!
STILL PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rewatching the game I think the 4th and 6 where cj wanted to go for it and day punted I think it was going to be a fake punt and would have worked it was set up perfectly but the snapper didn't snap to rossi or thought it was off after the flag for flase snap. It was there
Yeah there was also more than one times Michigan’s defense End could have picked Cj off so .
Curious how many deep balls were thrown this year vs last year. To Birms point, doesn't feel like they threw the ball down field much this year
That’s exactly why y’all need to join the Big 12 lol Stroud had well over 300 yards passing and 2 receivers went over 100 receiving yards, but yall never say shit about running the ball grinding down the defense instead just beg and beg for more passing. Y’all are weird 45-23 go blue!
Birm, my son (first time at the Shoe) and I had seats at the 42 yard line (great view of the whole field) and never thought we would see the Buckeyes run such a vanilla offense on The Game. Not sure why Ryan Day did not exploit them with Dallan Hayden up the middle and some slants (for the middle was wide open all game long) for our top notch receivers. And why in the H was Marvin not used more -- heck you can throw him anything and he will catch it (ok he had a drop that game). One thing I did notice about Ryan Day that you can not see watching on TV -- he is a total
micromanager and had his head in the playcards all game. Manage the game, get in the players faces on stupid penalties, praise them for great plays--quit Micromanaging!! He spent most of his time totally on his headset (sure he was talking with Kevin Wilson) and now I see why the play calls barely beat the time clock or we get delay of game. Admit you got out coached by Harbaugh
and fix your discrepancies during game day. If you can't give this up -- move on! You get paid 10Million a year so we expect you to completely manage and coach during the game. No one wants to see Ichigan bury the M flag in the block O ever again. Plus, this tells you quite a bit about the Ichigan fans (totally no class)!!! The whole experience was totally disappointing.
But, I am used to poor coaching during my experience during my Engineering undergrad at Ohio State -- I remember well John Cooper 2-10-1 against our arch rival.
Bottom line. Can’t run spread offense with a pocket passing QB!
Agree with the playcalling discussion.The play calling has become predictable and stale. I think Day needs to hand the rains over to Wilson or get someone like Garrett Riley to come in and tweak the offense a little. This whole season, the offense looked clunky like Bill said, and it shouldn't be that way with all these weapons. A Qb who is willing to take the free yards with his legs would help this offense drastically.