ViWoods AIPaper: 10.65" 300PPI Kickstarter Project Overview & Why You Won't See It On My Deep Guide
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00:06 Intro
01:21 Crowdfunding Risks
03:05 ViWoods and WiWood, Too Close For Comfort
03:28 AIPaper Overview
13:22 Why You Won't Be Able To See AIPaper On My Deep Guide
20:06 What Does This Mean?
24:13 Will I Back the Project?
25:01 Summary
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AIPaper is a crowdfunding project that promises to deliver a 10.65" 300PPI Android 13 e-ink tablet that has AI integration on almost every level of the system. Let's take a look at their pre-Kickstarter campaign and what this product promises to be.
I also cover in this video the reason behind why, unfortunately, you will most not be able to see a traditional My Deep Guide In-Depth and on-hands look at this product.
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You do great work, Voja, and I love your integrity and focus on integrity. I will ALWAYS be a fan. Thank you for your service to the world!
Thank you so much for the support!
Voja, what you call cynism, I name realism. No transparency means no money from me. Thank you for the heads up and for your hard work for sharing info. Take care
Very glad to have seen this video right after another one that very weirdly seemed to forcefully keep selling it as such a "Good e-Reader".
yes I was surprised about there review calling it the best reader... according to them no play store but you are able to install apps through apk files. How can that be the best reader?
It's a mystery 😁
All the reviews of the channel you're referring to are full of sh.t. I don't how he can still be out there. Even the reviews of the actual best eink tablets, like the Go 10.3 for example, are so bad.
@@bocarsall3797 I like that good e-reader covers a lot of devices... However their team is very rude. If you ever look at the comments on their videos, they are often quite rude to people asking questions etc.
Man, your video is so timely. Good e-reader is calling this the best e-ink so far. I'm so glad i saw your video and watched that first to get context on this device.
It may as well be the best, I really have no idea, nor can I make that judgement without having laid my hands on it, but I can cover the aspects that I am aware of.
@@MyDeepGuide yeah that makes complete sense. I just appreciate your objectivity and transparency.
Thank you very much :)
Good E-Reader has zero integrity. They removed commenting after panning Supernote in a video 3 weeks before their Viwoods video dropped. Their review never mentioned anything about being paid even though its clearly a paid promo.
You're just being polite Voja but I'm sure you have a very sound point of view about the cited channel's quality 😊.
I value the integrity in your reasoning and it's one of the reasons I trust what what's presented in the channel. Thanks for your thorough work.
It's too risky to be all-time connected with your e-paper device to the Internet, and also the tight AI integration for me represents a completely no-no for this device. Thanks for sharing this info, Voja!
Exactly. Very well stated.
Why is it risky to be connected to the internet all the time? I mean that is what you are with your mobile phone anyway.
Well, not because smartphones are connected all the time to the Internet is a good thing; it's something inherent to Information Security that, with more exposure, more risks associated... Well, this is my own opinion, don't take it as the truth...
@@FryAndLeelaAndBender yes I agree that it’s risky. I just meant that adding the device in the video to your life setup most likely won’t increase affect the risks you already have. Sorry if it was a bit too subtle about that.
@@litjellyfish Have you never considered the implications of Google's Selfish Ledger coupled with a Chinese-style social credit scoring system and central bank digital currency? If not, you seriously need to expand your horizons.
Thank you so much for covering this device as a warning for your viewers! I also got burned by TopJoy Butterfly who, as you mentioned, is coincidentally produced by a company named Wiwood...😂. I agree that this device does not seem worth the risk when I can get the Boox Go 10.3 from an established company. For me Reinkstone and TopJoy were more intriguing as they claimed that they would be incorporating DES Slurry which no other company had attempted use, etc. This Viwoods is literally just the Boox Go 10.3 - but with a massive risk attached to it.
Thank you again for another thorough video covering this device 😁
It feels like a scam. If the established companies don’t have the capabilities to produce thinner with all of these features, why would this unknown company requiring a kickstarter campaign have this manufacturing capacity. They just slapped AI on a bunch of things to sound compelling but it doesn’t even make sense.
100% scam
@@doncristobal33did you see the pre preview on. The good e reader channel. If it’s a scam they have put a lot of effort to make a fake video showcasing all features… still yes of course AI is just a buzzword. I mean handwriting analyzis has been around for years both with and without “Ai”
Interestingly GoodEreader has just uploaded a video gushing all over the device, and not mentioning any issues or concerns over the unit. Never mentioning any AI risks. And the video has been uploaded to the Kickstarter page already
Well, we probably have different perspectives and priorities. It's good that there are different resources available for users out there, as combining them can offer a more complete picture for the potential customer :)
Also, it may well be an excellent device, I don't know. It looks the part, but the AI aspect of it is an important decision to keep in mind when deciding about the device.
Two out of three, perhaps? I would really like the "always there" buttons on the bottom. But I share your concerns regarding the AI and crowdfunding.
I'm really enjoying my Boox Go 10.3 -- even more so than my Supernote Nomad. From a practical point of view, I'm going to set the Nomad aside for a while, and work a bit on making my old Boox Nova Air 2 work as the little brother to the Go 10.3. (I'm hoping for a Boox Go 7.8.)
In the past, the Boox NaviBall seemed to get in the way, but I now have it set up on both notebooks just for Back, Home, Prev Page, and Full Refresh -- which minimizes it's intrusiveness and is kinda like bezel buttons.
So many red flags and weird power moves in their email exchange 🤯
Definitely. They are not answering Voja's questions. Best avoided I'd say.
@@amandag5072well I mean remarkable never answered any questions either during after and ongoing their Kickstarter 😅
Thank you for the video you dedicated to this device which gave rise to doubts and perplexities in me, sorry if I wrote you an email talking to you about this device, your video He answered you have my questions. In addition to what you described I clearly see from the interface that they tried to make it very similar to the RM2. Thank you
The way you describe the communication with ViWoods, I would have a strange feeling too. I'm very curious to see how the Kickstarter campaign will develop. At this point, i really wouldn't have much confidence in this company.
Btw., I don't like the AI focus of the device, it looks like they want to ride the AI hype wave. Especially if it is a cloud solution with a subscription, I hate that kind of business model.
Greatly respect your integrity
Yeahhhhhhh those are some serious red flags there. Thank you for showing this.
I think you are right on with this one. I found their reply to you shaky at best. I don't think they are very sure of their own product. It took them 9 days to come back with a reply. That told me they they feel that they may be on shaky grounds and the device is not ready for "prime time" just yet. Am glad you have high standards and stick with them!!!
What I find even more confusing is that their Kickstarter campaign has launched now, right? And that was the big push for the time constraints, yet we can only see 2 videos showing the physical device, 1 is with Good E Reader and the other is on a channel that has 300 subscribers and the video currently has 84 views. Something is not right here...
I messaged Viwoods on their Facebook page and asked specifically how they chose which reviewers to send their limited number of test units to, and they said…
“When we initially reached out to multiple creators, we had only a limited number of sample units available.
For our early collaborations, we prioritized creators who could produce content quickly, preferably within one week of receiving the device. This was necessary to align with our Kickstarter launch schedule.
After launching the program on Kickstarter and having a more flexible schedule, we will reach out to more creators for collaboration. Please stay tuned for updates.”
Yes, they emailed me yesterday as well with the same message. This time they are getting more units and it seems like they will send me both the regular and mini sample devices to test and review on the channel, so we'll see.
The explanation makes sense, but there was a lack of communication on their side that didn't make sense and that caused a lot of questions to pop up, and I don't feel that any of it was necessary. But, to their credit, they did fully acknowledge that communication shortcoming, they even apologized for it, and the communication that the offer now is on a much better level. So let's see how it unfolds.
@@MyDeepGuide Will be interesting to see the size of the mini in-hand :)
@@MyDeepGuide Looking forward to this review! Thanks for all you do in this community!
Thanks for this - pledge cancelled immediately.
Intrusive A.I. selling your data and studying your thought process, could result on a knock on the door in a dystopian future.
Or a much more efficient "custom tailored reality" displayed to a person via the social media platforms. At the very least, you'll become an even better consumer once AI learns enough about you to be able to build an excellent prediction model 😁
Horrible, isn't it?!
@@MyDeepGuide As a studious Christian I have an inherent biased towards A.I., suggesting that its going to be taken to another level in our near future...
Revelation 13:14[b]-15
14b saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make *an image* to the beast _[Antichrist],_ which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto *the image* of the beast, that *_the image of the beast should both speak,_* and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Thing is, we are not looking as conspiratorial today as we once were. 😮
I'm 61 and recall being told in my childhood how robots were going to do most of the work and we were going to have an easy life earning enough to live comfortably on a three day week, never thought we'd be competing with them... and thats without throwing A.I. into the mix, strange days.
@@JMaxwell1000 Indeed, and we all know it's going to get a whole lot worse, I'd like to add _'before it gets better'_ but just can't.
@@karlmunford7000 Many of us feel exactly the same. If you've never seen Dr. Robert Epstein's interviews on Google's Selfish Ledger and that massive accumulation of personal data, please watch. It will make your hair stand on end.
Wake me when it becomes available on Amazon. I for one would NEVER back another project on Kickstarter as I've been burned a dozen times.
Yes let’s stop using it. If we had this sense like 5-10years ago we would had avoided the creation of such terrible devices as reMarkable…
@@litjellyfish It is NOT the device itself that poses the problem, it is the intelligence agencies' big data accumulation 24/7 coupled with the proposed global digital ID and a social credit scoring system. We know that Google et al. alone have more than 3 million pages of digital profile for every person who has used the internet over the past 10 years. If you've ever made a suspicious comment, your scs will be lowered. Accumulate enough of those and you will be blocked from all travel and purchases.
Honestly, this device lost me at "AI". Between that, the device running Android, needing to always be online, and the company acting a little weird, it doesn't really have any redeeming qualities for me anyway.
Many AI features work offline. For example, handwriting conversion on the Boox, and many others stuff on modern smartphones, so it's a question of how they implement it, but if it needs constant connection, I don't want it.
Handwriting conversion is not an AI type of a task, despite the labelling used by the companies. It is an OCR algorithm which can be handled by any Processing Unit. True AI tasks are an online service (for devices of this type), simply because they rely on sending data to the AI service of choice and receiving back the results. These are still purely online tasks, and in the case of this device and service, any and all true AI tasks can only be handled online, because they are handled by a 3rd party providing the AI processing services.
In the near future, portable devices will be equipped with Processing Units that can handle machine learning tasks, and it should be possible to have limited AI functionality while offline, but this is certainly not the case with these devices today.
@@MyDeepGuideMy teams deployed Tensorflow.js apps on Rasberry Pi devices with no connectivity in the field. You are wrong about all AI going to the back end.
When we implemented HW Rec. in 1989, we used techniques created by Yann LeCun, who runs AI for FB these days. It was called AI then, not OCR, which scanners did and still use. They’re different because OCR works on raster images, while the LeCun approach requires access to the actual strokes. They’re related by but not the same
Oh cool, I didn't know that there was a stroke based approach for handwriting recognition! That gets my inner nerd excited, thanks for correcting me :)
As for the AI being online, well technically yes, these chips can do these things, but we don't have a commercially available AI model that can be deployed locally on mobile platforms. To my knowledge, the likes of Llama2 are only available on Windows, Linux and OSX platforms. But I might be wrong there as well 😁
Weird. This is a reply to my comment of almost an hour ago
I think TH-cam is watching "Love Is Blind UK" and is slacking off 😁
Apple advertises “on board” ai type features. But its processor capability is much greater. Always connected is ridiculous. We all (or mostly all) of us feel this would be a huge invasion of pricey and a security risk. I only hope that as more and more companies introduce AI, that we don’t become the metaphorical “lobster in the pot of water” where we get used to it everywhere, we are attracted to the benefits and we compromise - setting the disastrous standard. I’m not a Luddite, but I will remain cautious on this front till I die. I’ll probably be the guy with a SuperNote with all my stuff on it as people laugh cause it can’t do everything i could possibly want, but not need.
Well, we accepted cameras, microphones and always online devices that track all of our activities and location at all times. It really isn't a big step to accepting AI as well, as a final piece of the puzzle, so that we can fully venture into the Wall.E-esque type of existence :)
reMarkable does have multi-device support as of a recent update. 3 devices per account, but the feature is locked behind Connect.......
Oh cool, well, at least it's added :) Thanks for the heads up, I totally missed that. That's a very nice development for the Remarkable platform ;)
@@MyDeepGuide still wish they had more sizes to offer =P
Well 3 is perfect! 7.8", 10.3", and 13.3" versions :)
I'm pretty sure that it's a scam. The rendered images really look like that they merged them from RM2 and BooxGo, in the backer page one or two images show the pen next to the tablet is much greater like it would be 7.9 instead of 10.6 , and AIPaper and Viwoods as trademarks are registrated for Viwoods Schensen company, so it is not located in HongKong at all .
+ the AI-stuff would cost much more money than the one-time income of this campaign, so if they make it happen somehow, they have to build up a subscription model or release new devices iteratively to keep the cashflow in plus.
It's a scam, don't back it.
the fact is that the company is Shenzhen Zhisen Technology Design Co., Ltd
I don't see how it would be a scam? The device obviously exists and a platform has been built and delivered, so I disagree with that characterization.
However, I do think that crowdfunding projects always deserve a healthy dose of caution, and that the AI focus of the device, as handy and convenient as it has the potential to be, has privacy implications and long term support dependency, all of which need to be taken into consideration.
@@MyDeepGuide Well, I just saw a couple of polished images and videos about the device (that clearly reminds me to as a mashup of Onyx Boox and RM2), so I'm not convinced that it is ready. I cannot register to their platform, because it responses that I have to do it via AIPaper. Their facebook page is 2 months old or something similar, like in every other social media.
Maybe I'm too sceptical after Butterfly and the others, but it doesn't look well for me.
@@MyDeepGuide ignore me, now I watch the goodEReader's review where they show the device in action. Sorry, my bad, the device exists, etc etc...I mean they've got at least one device. :) nevertheless goodEReader's video looks like a paid promotion, everything is uberfancy bla bla bla.
Well, who knows, maybe it is 😁 I mean it looks great, and both Remarkable 2 and Go 10.3 leave a striking impression with the combination of thinness and materials used, so I'm pretty sure that it feels and looks great, but I'd love to be able to measure the things that matter, to put it through the tests and see how it stacks up beyond the AI billboard, because it could be a genuinely good device, but there are aspects about it that are raising some caution flags.
Hello, Voya.
An offtopic question: What is your opinion about e-ink phones? Do you test any device of this kind?
Thank you.
Thanks. No AI for me. So many flies heading towards the bright light...
They sent out a blanket email to every content creator in the space, when you replied actually checked who you are, and decided they didn't want you warning people before they had a chance to fleece all the suckers who will back it sight unseen. What business is going to want to touch something AI powered with a 10-foot pole? I can imagine some poor sysadmin frothing at the mouth when some VP of marketing asks if they can have one.
Can you even begin to imagine the security chasm that would represent in any business environment? Yet it's advertised as a "business device" 😳
And their marketing dept didn’t even spend 30 seconds to find out Voya’s name. They just used the channel name. Very lazy!!
You just got a AI response from them. Strange, strange....
With the amount of AI stuff they are advertising, this device will probably end up in an even worse state than the Reinkstone if the company behind it disappears, having things be as local as possible is very important honestly, even if the company isn't shady
I was hoping someone would catch that crucial point. I actually had a whole section where I talked about that in the video, but have decided to remove it, so that I am not perceived as overly negative. But yes, the support for this product will be of vital importance.
Local AI is doable. Outdoor use? That means it shouldn't overhead in the summer.
With modern SoC's technically, yes, running Llama2 locally is possible (although to my knowledge, it is not available on mobile platforms as of yet?), and it will become (hopefully) more and more accessible as the new Processing Units become more and more capable at efficiently handling such tasks. But crucially, this device handles all AI tasks through an online service.
@@MyDeepGuide I've been running lots of LLMs on my Macbook Pro, but they are generally from a few GB and up, and are taxing for my M1 pro processor with 16GB of RAM. Definitely not what I would be running on a mobile device with a battery you want to last for days at least.
Their commercial doesn't really provide much. I mean AI is barely a factor on normal tablets - how specifically have they integrated AI to improve our workflows? It looks amazing but I feel they need to relook what make the Greats in Eink tablets actually *great* and work on the gaps.
Well the AI integration are macro shortcut commands that make it easier for the user to send data to the AI servers, and then paste the results back into the tablet. So instead of having ChatGPT app installed and manually copying and pasting content back and forth, the integration here acts like a bridge of convenience.
@@MyDeepGuideexactly. Which is how it should be. And WILL be. It’s just that the UX/UI part of ai assistance is still really young. It’s nothing more than an evolution of copy and paste and search imo. And tbf even that data was and is being sent out from your computer since 30y back.
This lost me at "AI". I am so tired of the so-called AI being forced on me lately. It is a complete turn off.
a bad "review" because you weren't on the short list reflects worse on you than on them
Just a note: it's not "wiwoods" like you're pronouncing, it's "viwoods", with the "v" like in ' victory', 'vital', "vile", etc... 😉
It seems there is no place for creation in the device. Ai does everything. I don't get it and see not so much of human creation's use. You are following a machine creation. There is no point...
It looks like another scam from the Chinese company. Boja's insight saved my money from the scam last time.
NEVER! With this device, you might as well just upload your mental content into the intelligence agencies' databases. Horrible. Never in a million years. But, great review as always from Voija.
Kickstarter as a company is a dumpster fire, they don't care about backers at all.
Unrelated to this particular product, I think your portrayal of Kickstarter is a little unfair - there is no “risk”, or “spending of money and hoping for the best”. You are making a pledge (no money spent) based on the project being successful. If it fails, it costs you nothing. I think this it’s important to make clear, because many small, independent projects rely upon crowdfunding to survive. Intentional or not, you’re coming across as saying “most crowdfunding projects are scams”. Not the case in my opinion.
You may have misunderstood what I was referring to. I wasn't talking about the Kickstarter campaign success. I was talking about the actual, real-world end results of backing a Kickstarter project.
Once a project is funded and money is taken from backers, then you can only hope for the best, because there is absolutely no guarantee of anything.
Additionally, I never once mentioned a word scam, nor was I implying that in any way. What I was talking about is the objective reality of backing a crowdfunding project. It is a gamble, in the sense, you don't know what, when or if you will receive anything, and people absolutely have to be aware of it, because some are not.
I am not against crowdfunding in any way, but it always has to come with at least a yellow warning flag, because that's the reality of it.
but also many successful campaigns fail to deliver on their promises or in the worst case nothing at all.
Until the 21st Sept when the campaign finishes. Then you get charged the amount you pledged
The Good e-reader video just up feels like a paid advert. th-cam.com/video/Nfn4uVPSx-g/w-d-xo.html
"The best e-Note so far | ViWoods e-Note Review". It is definitely a Payola. Danger Will Robinson with this crowd funding.