@@27metro34 I think if a team that has 2 solid Centers lands the first overall, then there may be a case for Martone going 1st. Or maybe even Schaefer! Can't wait to see how this season plays out!
I think Misa ends up being the perfect #2 center for a Stanley cup contender or #1 for 60% of the league. Kind of like Strome but with a higher ceiling and skill and I think he gets to his potential quicker.
hagens is a better skater, playmaker and defensive player so what makes you say misa goes 1st? Misa is for sure 2nd since he's levels above martone but he's only better at scoring and being bigger which might actually inflate his points since he's playing against junior players.
Looking at those OHL stats but damn the Sharks had a great and potentially franchise altering 1st round with the selections of Celebrini at #1 which was a given and so far he's living up to the hype and then somehow Dickinson fell to them with the #11 pick when most had him going within the first 5 or 7 selections for the most part. If the Sharks can end up with another top 3 or 4 pick in this loaded draft and add a Martone or Schaefer top tier talent to their already stacked prospect pool, the Sharks future is looking even brighter than it is now.
Agreed! When they landed Dickinson last draft, I was like wow. I've had the opportunity to watch him a lot last season and he always stood out. San Jose is building something nice! And if they fall in the Top 4 picks this year...unreal!
Once the season is done it will be too hard to ignore misa and martones numbers. Can’t wait for the Desnoyers and Carter Bear scouting reports. Love this channel
Yet another great one this vid, thanks 🙏 My take is it's still a bit early to tell Hagens is on a new team at a new level while most others are in the same team & league as they were the past 1, 2 or 3 seasons. He's on a line with 1st rounders from what seems to be a deeper draft class so it will be easy to track if things improve for him over the course of the season. Plus being older it's less likely he'll grow, which is a big knock on his chances to go 1st as of now but you can never know for sure until combine numbers are revealed, we've seen surprising late growth in some prospects in the past.
YUP! And like I said in the video....I think World Juniors are gonna play a role in how some of these prospects get ranked. Playing against their peers and dominating can help draft stock for sure!
@nhldraftpros oh yeah ! Sure this will be very interesting a gauge this year between these 4. Also, if you don't mind me asking I've noticed Nathan Behm seem to be rising quite a lot, having superb numbers on a fairly limited team, which off course would have to be confirmed over the course of the season, but it's quite the impressive start, almost to the level of a very top prospect even. Yet when asked about him very recently Scott Wheeler who is usually keener on WHL kids than most seem to still consider him a second rounder to date. I'm very cautious with his takes, don't value his analysis as high as I value some others like yours tbh but would you agree with him for now ? What would be the knocks ? Subpar skating maybe ? Physicality ? Compete ? Me wonders ...
@@lauig I think Behm is one of those players that will put up nice numbers but may drop in the draft....that being said I think he's a mid to late 1st rounder if he keeps up these stats. Some issues with skating yes and off puck play, but the potential is there. Does he maintain this pace is the question?
Yeah I can definitely see if we’re picking 1 the Hawks going Martone or Misa. I misspoke earlier in a comment when I said Hagens instead of Misa, but yeah they need top flight wingers. However, can you imagine a top 4 defense of Levshunov, Korchinski, Schaefer and Vlasic?
If it’s the Blackhawks picking then I’m thinking between James Hagens or Porter Martone just with their incessant need for top line wingers. I could also see them dangling the 1 pick to whoever wants it for one of these guys getting a haul in return and still staying or using their second first from Toronto to trade back up into the top 3 to select Martone.
There's 3 boys I like and will have to wait until the season is almost over. Hagens, Martone and Misa are all in the same checkmark box for me right now. Hagens would definitely be my pick right now but Martone and Misa are right on his tail.
draftpros do you think you could do a video on caleb desnoyers? maybe some goalie videos? this year has the chance to be one of the best goalie classes in a while
Working on Desnoyers right now! Will be out this week or weekend. I may take a shot at goalies although not really my strong suit, but may give it a go!
We have been spoiled with the last two drafts...I wonder how the 2025 draft will turn out ??? IMO, Montreal will likely pick from 5th to 8th. The 5 first teams from the 2024 draft could possibly pick again in the same order or almost...time will tell !!!
It just depends on who's picking first that will determine who's picked first, some teams need a forward others need a defensemen, pound for pound the best player is Schaefer, he's incredible
IMO Misa is the best pick but it depends what team is picking.If it is an American team I feel Hagens is picked but if a Canadian team then Misa is the guy.I personally thought Cellebrini was over rated a good player but not the superstar they were making him out to be.I actually thought Misa was pretty good 2 years ago and imo his game has not really got much better but he was already a good player so tough to improve. if it was up to me I am taking Misa but whatever different managers have different thoughts.My real choice is Gavin McKenna the next year he is the can't miss player.
you obviously haven't watched misa. his game from last season to this season is like night and day now being the guy with the nhl drafted guys gone. And his linemate epperson has 30 pts.
WJC will have a huge impact in this draft. I still see Hagens going #1 especially if he has a good NCAA season and WJC. Misa would be my pick to surprise for #1 if Hagens isn’t selected.
As hockey fans what do we know? - NHL team really value ALOT those big body skillful forwards - In my humble opinion: Martone goes 1st overall. But Misa's skills are really underrated. love Hagens skillset , skating , hockey IQ and the way he passes to puck but only 1G in 9 games?.. I D K.
Hagens shouldn't even be a Top 5 pick, imo. I can see him slipping in the draft big time. I've watched every minute of every game he's played for BC so far. Only having 11 points in 9 games while playing on a line with Ryan Leonard and Gabe Perrault is not good enough for a potential #1 overall pick. Comparatively, Maklin Celebrini had 18 points after 9 games with BU, and he did it with inferior linemates. Hagens is small and physically underdeveloped. He's listed at 5-10...but I think he was given an extra inch by whoever measured him. He just looks tiny out there. I would describe him as a poor man's Jack Hughes. Like Hughes, Hagens has elite vision and playmaking but without the skating burst. Hagens is a slick skater. Just not explosive. Even Logan Cooley looked more impressive with Minnesota his Freshman year. At any rate, I'm hoping Hagens can grow an inch or two by the draft. So far, he's struggling a bit against older, bigger, stronger college players. Secondly, the kid needs to shoot the puck more. A little more selfishness and killer instinct would do him some good. He's a 'pass first' type of player and forces things too much because of it. He has a nice shot. Use it more!
I like this take. Hagens reminds me of Jack Hughes lite. I think he ends up being a highly skilled top 6 center and I do think his skills are a step ahead and more polished everyone else (at this point) and it makes people forget how raw the rest of his game is.
Thanks for sharing! Yes to all above and lot of people saying Jack Hughes Lite which I agree with. Definitely needs to get bigger and some extra height would help!
Similar feelings from me. Every other prospect in his tier seems to be improving but he just seems the same. His tools are very solid but doubtful he will make a but impact in the league for another 2 or 3 yrs after draft
misa. over a gpg. on pace for around 70 g's and can break jt's exceptional record of 71. I told the haters misa would pick it up in his draft season and with all the nhl drafted guys gone.
I think he has the highest floor of the top players in the draft. I do question his ceiling myself. Not impressed with his physical skill set honestly.
Who do you think will get selected 1st overall at the 2025 NHL Draft? #nhldraft
Matthew Schaefer easy pick
@@KanadianGOOSE8 If he keeps up this pace...there's a good chance he takes the Top spot!
I think by the end of the year Hagens will definitely be out of the race for #1. I think Martone gets selected 1st
@@27metro34 I think if a team that has 2 solid Centers lands the first overall, then there may be a case for Martone going 1st. Or maybe even Schaefer! Can't wait to see how this season plays out!
If the Sharks get it again they should take Martone. It also depends how much teams value size.
Id Argue Michael Misa goes one
Agreed
I think Misa ends up being the perfect #2 center for a Stanley cup contender or #1 for 60% of the league. Kind of like Strome but with a higher ceiling and skill and I think he gets to his potential quicker.
@@ryanTDGBlackhawks could use him.
hagens is a better skater, playmaker and defensive player so what makes you say misa goes 1st? Misa is for sure 2nd since he's levels above martone but he's only better at scoring and being bigger which might actually inflate his points since he's playing against junior players.
Idk where that defensive thing comes from he doesn’t play D he doesn’t back check
Looking at those OHL stats but damn the Sharks had a great and potentially franchise altering 1st round with the selections of Celebrini at #1 which was a given and so far he's living up to the hype and then somehow Dickinson fell to them with the #11 pick when most had him going within the first 5 or 7 selections for the most part. If the Sharks can end up with another top 3 or 4 pick in this loaded draft and add a Martone or Schaefer top tier talent to their already stacked prospect pool, the Sharks future is looking even brighter than it is now.
Agreed! When they landed Dickinson last draft, I was like wow. I've had the opportunity to watch him a lot last season and he always stood out. San Jose is building something nice! And if they fall in the Top 4 picks this year...unreal!
My 2025 top 5 first round draft picks to date:
1. Michael Misa
2. Porter Martone
3. James Hagens
4. Matthew Schaefer
5. Roger McQueen
I like it!
McQueen is very one dimensional but everyone needs goal scorers!
#1 Porter Martone
#2 Michael Misa
#3 James Hagins
#4 Matthew Schaefer
#5 Roger McQueen
@@NorthernWarriorHockey Gonna be a fun draft!
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Always appreciate the coverage and clips, thank you!
Thanks for watching and getting into the comments...appreciate it...CHEERS!
Agreed, keep up the good work!! Great content!
Once the season is done it will be too hard to ignore misa and martones numbers.
Can’t wait for the Desnoyers and Carter Bear scouting reports. Love this channel
Thanks! Desnoyers is coming up soon! And what about Bear....he just doesn't stop!
Bear is a sicko!!
Destroyers is top 10 and bear is top 20
Destroyers is 6th for me could crack top 5 possibly beat out hagens. I think hagens is most likely of those 4 to drop
Those 4 being Misa hagens martone and Schaefer
Yet another great one this vid, thanks 🙏
My take is it's still a bit early to tell Hagens is on a new team at a new level while most others are in the same team & league as they were the past 1, 2 or 3 seasons. He's on a line with 1st rounders from what seems to be a deeper draft class so it will be easy to track if things improve for him over the course of the season.
Plus being older it's less likely he'll grow, which is a big knock on his chances to go 1st as of now but you can never know for sure until combine numbers are revealed, we've seen surprising late growth in some prospects in the past.
YUP! And like I said in the video....I think World Juniors are gonna play a role in how some of these prospects get ranked. Playing against their peers and dominating can help draft stock for sure!
@nhldraftpros oh yeah ! Sure this will be very interesting a gauge this year between these 4.
Also, if you don't mind me asking I've noticed Nathan Behm seem to be rising quite a lot, having superb numbers on a fairly limited team, which off course would have to be confirmed over the course of the season, but it's quite the impressive start, almost to the level of a very top prospect even. Yet when asked about him very recently Scott Wheeler who is usually keener on WHL kids than most seem to still consider him a second rounder to date. I'm very cautious with his takes, don't value his analysis as high as I value some others like yours tbh but would you agree with him for now ? What would be the knocks ? Subpar skating maybe ? Physicality ? Compete ? Me wonders ...
@@lauig I think Behm is one of those players that will put up nice numbers but may drop in the draft....that being said I think he's a mid to late 1st rounder if he keeps up these stats. Some issues with skating yes and off puck play, but the potential is there. Does he maintain this pace is the question?
@@nhldraftpros thank you very much !!
@@lauig Anytime! Thanks for getting on here and discussing....I love this part!
We’ve bin spoiled with the last two drafts this one is definitely not the same
This one is gonna come down right until draft day! Gonna be a fun season!
@@nhldraftpros Agreed
Martone being captain of his team is also a good sign in my opinion!
YUP! Plus putting up nice numbers and his size...all things you look for in a top prospect.
I'm really curious about if Victor Eklund can also get into the conversation. The guy is really killing it in hockey Alsvenskan.
Not sure about 1st overall, but definitely a conversation for Top 5!
James Hagens still goes #1. But for my favorite team (Blackhawks) I'd prefer Misa given the state of their prospect pool.
Also Hawks fan here, I d love Martone for us. A big rw with scoring touch would be great
@cedricsteinhoff986 true but misa has franchise potential 100 + point potential. Martone is also very nice but as of now id take misa
I really don’t want havens to Chicago, the last thing they need is another undersized center. Says hagens is 5”10 174lbs
Yeah I can definitely see if we’re picking 1 the Hawks going Martone or Misa. I misspoke earlier in a comment when I said Hagens instead of Misa, but yeah they need top flight wingers. However, can you imagine a top 4 defense of Levshunov, Korchinski, Schaefer and Vlasic?
@@robertbehof683 That would be sick. However, Misa has been playing Center all year and he is a natural Center
martone, schaefer, hagens, misa. that is eerily similar to the top 4 in 2022, it really can go any which way depending on the teams tho
Agreed! I think it will come down to team needs. Gonna be another fun draft season to watch!
Stylistic Player Comps:
Hagens- Jack Hughes
Martone- Corey Perry
Misa- Cole Perfetti
misa is much faster than perfetti.
@@stevenbauer4799 yeah that comp i wasnt sure about
@@stevenbauer4799 another comp could be rantanen
Schaefer will likely be top3...teams all need good defensemen especially the rebuilding ones !!!
He's so good!
Great vid! I just dropped my Porter Martone scouting report. He’s looking siiiick!
Nice! I'll check it out!
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If it’s the Blackhawks picking then I’m thinking between James Hagens or Porter Martone just with their incessant need for top line wingers. I could also see them dangling the 1 pick to whoever wants it for one of these guys getting a haul in return and still staying or using their second first from Toronto to trade back up into the top 3 to select Martone.
Yeah I think the Hawks go with a high potential forward!
There's 3 boys I like and will have to wait until the season is almost over. Hagens, Martone and Misa are all in the same checkmark box for me right now. Hagens would definitely be my pick right now but Martone and Misa are right on his tail.
draftpros do you think you could do a video on caleb desnoyers? maybe some goalie videos? this year has the chance to be one of the best goalie classes in a while
Working on Desnoyers right now! Will be out this week or weekend. I may take a shot at goalies although not really my strong suit, but may give it a go!
We have been spoiled with the last two drafts...I wonder how the 2025 draft will turn out ??? IMO, Montreal will likely pick from 5th to 8th. The 5 first teams from the 2024 draft could possibly pick again in the same order or almost...time will tell !!!
Would be wild if the draft ends up similar in lottery as 2024 lol! And if MTL ends up in the Top 5 come draft day, they will land another stud!
we need matthew schaefer!
Hagens has look good playing against older competition. The points will start coming eventually
True!
I wish Hagens was playing in the Ntdp vs CHL prospects games coming up next week.
I'll be at the game on Tuesday and yes I wish he was there also!
I think Hagens should still go #1 at this point. He’s producing points just not goals and he’s doing it against better competition.
He's getting chances...so it's just a matter of time that those offensive numbers jump up!
Draft for the future not the season they just had or are having...
If chicago gets #2 who are we taking? Im thinking misa atm. But could change
It just depends on who's picking first that will determine who's picked first, some teams need a forward others need a defensemen, pound for pound the best player is Schaefer, he's incredible
Yes he is!
IMO Misa is the best pick but it depends what team is picking.If it is an American team I feel Hagens is picked but if a Canadian team then Misa is the guy.I personally thought Cellebrini was over rated a good player but not the superstar they were making him out to be.I actually thought Misa was pretty good 2 years ago and imo his game has not really got much better but he was already a good player so tough to improve.
if it was up to me I am taking Misa but whatever different managers have different thoughts.My real choice is Gavin McKenna the next year he is the can't miss player.
you obviously haven't watched misa. his game from last season to this season is like night and day now being the guy with the nhl drafted guys gone. And his linemate epperson has 30 pts.
Habs need to draft Misa or Shaeffer
WJC will have a huge impact in this draft.
I still see Hagens going #1 especially if he has a good NCAA season and WJC.
Misa would be my pick to surprise for #1 if Hagens isn’t selected.
I think World Juniors is gonna play a big part in determining who goes 1st.
Michael Misa for sure
Misa is number 1 for me
As hockey fans what do we know? - NHL team really value ALOT those big body skillful forwards - In my humble opinion: Martone goes 1st overall.
But Misa's skills are really underrated.
love Hagens skillset , skating , hockey IQ and the way he passes to puck but only 1G in 9 games?.. I D K.
Agreed! NHL teams sure value size with skill. Too early to tell who goes 1st, but it's gonna be an interesting season for this draft class!
Hagens shouldn't even be a Top 5 pick, imo. I can see him slipping in the draft big time. I've watched every minute of every game he's played for BC so far. Only having 11 points in 9 games while playing on a line with Ryan Leonard and Gabe Perrault is not good enough for a potential #1 overall pick. Comparatively, Maklin Celebrini had 18 points after 9 games with BU, and he did it with inferior linemates.
Hagens is small and physically underdeveloped. He's listed at 5-10...but I think he was given an extra inch by whoever measured him. He just looks tiny out there. I would describe him as a poor man's Jack Hughes. Like Hughes, Hagens has elite vision and playmaking but without the skating burst. Hagens is a slick skater. Just not explosive. Even Logan Cooley looked more impressive with Minnesota his Freshman year. At any rate, I'm hoping Hagens can grow an inch or two by the draft. So far, he's struggling a bit against older, bigger, stronger college players.
Secondly, the kid needs to shoot the puck more. A little more selfishness and killer instinct would do him some good. He's a 'pass first' type of player and forces things too much because of it. He has a nice shot. Use it more!
I like this take. Hagens reminds me of Jack Hughes lite. I think he ends up being a highly skilled top 6 center and I do think his skills are a step ahead and more polished everyone else (at this point) and it makes people forget how raw the rest of his game is.
Thanks for sharing! Yes to all above and lot of people saying Jack Hughes Lite which I agree with. Definitely needs to get bigger and some extra height would help!
Similar feelings from me. Every other prospect in his tier seems to be improving but he just seems the same. His tools are very solid but doubtful he will make a but impact in the league for another 2 or 3 yrs after draft
Michael Misa is the best. James Hagens scored only 4 goals in 14 matches this season.
what about the euros?
Frondell, Eklund, Ryabkin...not contending for that top spot just yet. But lots of season to play out!
Montreal need Schaeffer 🐐
This year the world juniors will have a big say on who goes first
Agreed!
misa. over a gpg. on pace for around 70 g's and can break jt's exceptional record of 71. I told the haters misa would pick it up in his draft season and with all the nhl drafted guys gone.
Yeah he's been unstoppable! So good!
Depends who has the 1st pick, im not sure mtl would take another left handed dman
True...I think this draft will depend on how the lottery goes down.
@nhldraftpros yeah but for me schaffer is clear number 1 in my eyes
If the Sharks get #1 they should take Martone
May be a possibility! Martone would fit in nice in the Top 6 there! San Jose is building something nice!
I don't think SJ can get first overall again, no?
@@frequentsee3815 You can get the No1 pick twice in a five year span
Schaefer
Why is Hagens the unanimous #1?
I think he has the highest floor of the top players in the draft. I do question his ceiling myself. Not impressed with his physical skill set honestly.
IMO, its a bad year to be bad. There are some good players with good potential but no franchise building piece and the elite talent isnt very deep.
Agreed...top few players are looking good so far! The entire draft is up in the air in terms of rankings....gonna be a fun one to watch!
Do you think Misa has the potential to become a good two way center, or he will always be more of an offensive player?
I’m thinking offensive!!
Has the offensive upside for sure! I think it depends where he lands and what that team requires. Worst case he's a great 2nd line center.
@@nhldraftpros I was down on him at the start of the year, but he’s proving everyone wrong. I hope he keeps playing this good
@@crazytrain4373 I think he will continue putting some nice numbers! I've been watching him live for over 2 years and he keeps getting better.
He's always got the puck so he's always playing offense lol. He's too smart he has 0 holes in his game and can skate like the wind
Wouldnt mind the habs drafting any of these guys
Hagens line mates aren’t playing good tf there carrying his baby ass
Expecting more from that line...Perreault only has 13 pts in 9 gms and Leonard 11 in 9....we want more!
PLS MARTONE TO HABS
How many more top 5 picks does your team need buddy
@@frequentsee3815 only 4
@@frequentsee3815would you rather rush and be a mid decent playoff team but failed just like in beregevin era or you want to build a contender team?
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