because Chuck was working on Control Denied songs right after the Symbolic album, a few of the songs on The Sound of Perseverance were originally written for Control Denied.
I like this album because the entire album is 5 people soloing and ripping through riffs and getting a tone with more balls than the sound of perseverance, they changed the tone a lot from perseverance because this has that sound of the jcm 800 and dual rec out of a Marshall 8100
Believe, Consumed, Expect The Unexpected and Cut Down are such bangers. But the title track (that spacy middle section) is a piece of art - the third epic closer in a row, in Chuck’s final legacy (Perennial Quest - A Moment of Clarity - The Fragile Art of Existence). The only remaining question was the last word on A Moment of Clarity; “Why?” R.I.P. Chuck!
Necrotic Nick- The title track alone really had its hooks in me. That was a beast of a song and one that I think was purely Control Denied. I didn’t get a lot of echoes of Death on that one, just Chuck blazing a new trail.
Paul Masvidal's solo in Cosmic Sea playing in the background holy shit, what a solo! I love how Chuck let him off the leesh and let him play in his jazz fusion style on that song.
What an album, a fitting continuation and progression of Chuck's legacy - great that you gave it some attention. Surprised Chuck didn't do attempt the cleans himself, if Death's cover of Painkiller is anything to go by.
Necrotic Nick- I really wasn't a fan of Chuck's clean vocals either on the demos for Sounds or Painkiller so I'm glad they went with a different singer. It gave Chuck more time to just focus on the music too.
Great review. There's a tribute album here on YT and Spotify called "When Man and Machine Collide: A Tribute to Control Denied" where the unreleased second album demos are reworked with added vocals (using Chuck's lyrics), fretless DiGiorgio style bass, and pro drums. Stay metal! 🤘
Necrotic Nick- It’s a damn good album and I’m more curious what the follow up would sound like. I think some of the rough edges would have been smoothed out and they wouldn’t be worrying about making a Death album as well.
Great video! I have heard some songs off this album, but a very long time ago. I'll re-listen to refresh my memory. This is what I've always thought: Chuck has a always had a melodic and experimental side, but he was never able to explore it as much for two reasons. One is that fans and labels held Death to a certain standard, as you explained. Also, I think that it had to do with other members trying to establish their identity and careers through that band. That's just my guess, though. We'll see you in the next video! Cheers!
Necrotic Nick- I mean, when you look at the litany of talent that's been through Death, there's a lot of guys that had almost as big of presence as Chuck did in terms of the metal community at the time.
The sound of perseverance is actually a control denied album but chuck still owned one more album so he it release as a “Death” album but make no mistake this was a control denied album
This album is brilliant ! About 5 years ago was mostly onto death metal and black .. found this and tbh i got really into it . Wasnt into power vocals til this and really i highly rate the vocals . Just great riffs and movement on this album . Love it
There's a tribute album here on YT and Spotify called "When Man and Machine Collide: A Tribute to Control Denied" where the unreleased second album demos are reworked with added vocals (using Chuck's lyrics), fretless DiGiorgio style bass, and pro drums. Stay metal! 🤘
I got this on vinyl few weeks ago. So good. Mad at myself for overlooking it for so long. The 2nd album will never happen unfortunately due to problems extracting Chuck’s recordings. Which is a shame. I’ve heard it was very technical and complex album. RIP Chuck
This is probably the most underrated and underappreciated power metal of all time. Everyone on this project did a great job but Chuck's guitar work was what really stole the show.
Necrotic Nick- I’ve always considered it more of a prog metal album than a power metal album to be honest. The vocals are probably the most power metal aspect but US power metal does tend to be heavier from what I’ve listened to. Chuck was a killer writer and this was just the start. Sucks we never got a follow up.
@@thrallsofmetal Yeah, I see where you're coming from regarding the prog elements. Regardless of what genre you label it as, The Fragile Art of Existence is a solid slab of metal that definitely deserves the attention it didn't quite receive when it debuted.
Tim aymar has died this year from reasons unknown. And before aymar there was a vocalist called B. C. RICHARDS A GUITARIST CALLED BRIAN BENSON WHO WAS A LIVE MEMBER OF DEATH DURING the symbolic tour and a drummer called chris williams WHO died in a CAr accident in 2000 he was 29 yrs old Control denied started in 1996 and split up in 2001 after chuck schuldiner death.
You should review Sanguisugabogg's debut full-length album Tortured Whole when it comes out on March 26th. The first single is out now entitled "Menstrual Envy".
Necrotic Nick- The video is hilarious. I love Troma though. The music is OK. I like the old school brutal death vibes like Broken Hope and early Suffocation but there really wasn't much too the song. I'm still curious about the rest of the album since I liked their EP on Maggot Stomp.
Retro reviews good idea also would like you guys to re review albums that when you first reviewed did not give such a great score but have grown on you like metal does sometimes and love and vice versa
@@thrallsofmetal yeah great just from my personally experienced sometimes some records don’t instantly click and then you think later fuck what was I think also your channel is great and we look to your reviews on records and can influence for sure as your all knowledgable Your channel is awesome love what you are doing
For me, this era of Chuck's songwriting showcases how he just didn't know how to compose a song. Earlier stuff was very straightforward and riff focused, so it didn't matter as much how well songs ebbed or flowed, but the more progressive he attempted to get, the more jarring the transitions became. He certainly had the riffs still, that never ever went away, but this and The Sound of Perseverence were loaded with very messy songwriting. I found that odd at the time because Symbolic was probably his most focused in terms of songwriting, and then to go the direction they went just pained me to listen to. Not for me.
Necrotic Nick- I like this album but I definitely prefer Death and I am more of a fan of earlier stuff like Leprosy and Spiritual Healing. This is consider the rough draft of what was to come. I think the follow up would have probably had more of an identity of its own and probably would have been compared less to Death. It was a hell of a transition but ultimately I think Chuck did a pretty good job.
I agree totally, his arrangements were always a huge flaw, for the most part of his career he used essentially the same structure for every song until the Sounds album, and then his last two albums definitely had some odd and jarring transitions. I wish he had a collaborator he trusted enough to help him arrange things a bit better. That being said, Chuck is definitely one of the greatest ever, and deserves all the praise he's gotten.
@@thrallsofmetal I'm a ITP through Symbolic kind of guy, but I'll enjoy any of his albums to a degree, even this one, it's just a significant step back from what I like about Chuck's music, to me.
Had this on CD, briefly, but sold it. I wanted to like it because I played the shit out of Sound of Perseverance but I really couldn't get past the power metal vocals. Tried checking it out again, still can't stand the vocals. Power metal vocals just aren't my thing.
Necrotic Nick- I'm really iffy on power metal vocals but I really did like Tim's vocals on this. There's a gruffness to them and they don't come off too singsongy all the time. He had a really good range and could get pretty raw when the part called for it.
Necrotic Nick- That was what initially turned me off about them when it came out but oddly enough they didn't bother me as much now. I'm not really a power metal fan either, but Tim did a great job on this.
@@thrallsofmetal its really hard.. i tried damn hard to love that Album I gave it so much spins... and most of the time i am able to get it. But in this case i failed. Have it here right now, borrowed it from my friend (again🤣) last week, and gave it another try right few hours ago... And it really Starts to piss me off man, musically? Masterpiece! But... yeah... maybe next time🥺😉🤘
"Leprosy" is my favorite but it doesn't seem like the same band by the "Sound Of Perserverance" so it's difficult to compare. I celebrate their entire catalogue.
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This album aged so well
Necrotic Nick- I actually appreciate more now than I did when I initially picked it up so I agree with you there.
because Chuck was working on Control Denied songs right after the Symbolic album, a few of the songs on The Sound of Perseverance were originally written for Control Denied.
I like this album because the entire album is 5 people soloing and ripping through riffs and getting a tone with more balls than the sound of perseverance, they changed the tone a lot from perseverance because this has that sound of the jcm 800 and dual rec out of a Marshall 8100
You guys reviewed it!!! Glad I found your channel.
Believe, Consumed, Expect The Unexpected and Cut Down are such bangers.
But the title track (that spacy middle section) is a piece of art - the third epic closer in a row, in Chuck’s final legacy (Perennial Quest - A Moment of Clarity - The Fragile Art of Existence).
The only remaining question was the last word on A Moment of Clarity; “Why?”
R.I.P. Chuck!
Necrotic Nick- The title track alone really had its hooks in me. That was a beast of a song and one that I think was purely Control Denied. I didn’t get a lot of echoes of Death on that one, just Chuck blazing a new trail.
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Paul Masvidal's solo in Cosmic Sea playing in the background holy shit, what a solo! I love how Chuck let him off the leesh and let him play in his jazz fusion style on that song.
What an album, a fitting continuation and progression of Chuck's legacy - great that you gave it some attention. Surprised Chuck didn't do attempt the cleans himself, if Death's cover of Painkiller is anything to go by.
Necrotic Nick- I really wasn't a fan of Chuck's clean vocals either on the demos for Sounds or Painkiller so I'm glad they went with a different singer. It gave Chuck more time to just focus on the music too.
chuck sang on the demos and i will say his singing voice is not very strong-but he knew what was right for the band
Great review. There's a tribute album here on YT and Spotify called "When Man and Machine Collide: A Tribute to Control Denied" where the unreleased second album demos are reworked with added vocals (using Chuck's lyrics), fretless DiGiorgio style bass, and pro drums. Stay metal! 🤘
Personally I think this album is fantastic and flawless
Necrotic Nick- It’s a damn good album and I’m more curious what the follow up would sound like. I think some of the rough edges would have been smoothed out and they wouldn’t be worrying about making a Death album as well.
Great video! I have heard some songs off this album, but a very long time ago. I'll re-listen to refresh my memory. This is what I've always thought: Chuck has a always had a melodic and experimental side, but he was never able to explore it as much for two reasons. One is that fans and labels held Death to a certain standard, as you explained. Also, I think that it had to do with other members trying to establish their identity and careers through that band. That's just my guess, though.
We'll see you in the next video! Cheers!
Necrotic Nick- I mean, when you look at the litany of talent that's been through Death, there's a lot of guys that had almost as big of presence as Chuck did in terms of the metal community at the time.
@@thrallsofmetal Exactly.
The sound of perseverance is actually a control denied album but chuck still owned one more album so he it release as a “Death” album but make no mistake this was a control denied album
Hell yeah, just received this on vinyl plus a shirt
Necrotic Nick- Nice! Relapse has been doing a great job with those reissues of all of Chuck's material.
This album is brilliant ! About 5 years ago was mostly onto death metal and black .. found this and tbh i got really into it . Wasnt into power vocals til this and really i highly rate the vocals . Just great riffs and movement on this album . Love it
Control Denied! Wud up!
Damn I can’t imagine how awesome When Man and Machine Collide would have been.
Check the fucking demos!! There are some seriously cool riffs snd atmospheric passages hidden in there!
Especially on track 3 & 4!
There's a tribute album here on YT and Spotify called "When Man and Machine Collide: A Tribute to Control Denied" where the unreleased second album demos are reworked with added vocals (using Chuck's lyrics), fretless DiGiorgio style bass, and pro drums. Stay metal! 🤘
Shredloard delivering maybe the most power metal review intro ever
I got this on vinyl few weeks ago. So good. Mad at myself for overlooking it for so long. The 2nd album will never happen unfortunately due to problems extracting Chuck’s recordings. Which is a shame. I’ve heard it was very technical and complex album. RIP Chuck
This is probably the most underrated and underappreciated power metal of all time. Everyone on this project did a great job but Chuck's guitar work was what really stole the show.
Necrotic Nick- I’ve always considered it more of a prog metal album than a power metal album to be honest. The vocals are probably the most power metal aspect but US power metal does tend to be heavier from what I’ve listened to. Chuck was a killer writer and this was just the start. Sucks we never got a follow up.
@@thrallsofmetal Yeah, I see where you're coming from regarding the prog elements. Regardless of what genre you label it as, The Fragile Art of Existence is a solid slab of metal that definitely deserves the attention it didn't quite receive when it debuted.
Tim aymar has died this year from reasons unknown. And before aymar there was a vocalist called B. C. RICHARDS A GUITARIST CALLED BRIAN BENSON WHO WAS A LIVE MEMBER OF DEATH DURING the symbolic tour and a drummer called chris williams WHO died in a CAr accident in 2000 he was 29 yrs old Control denied started in 1996 and split up in 2001 after chuck schuldiner death.
You should review Sanguisugabogg's debut full-length album Tortured Whole when it comes out on March 26th. The first single is out now entitled "Menstrual Envy".
Video is fun and so is the band name. The music was kinda okay - nothing amazing
Necrotic Nick- The video is hilarious. I love Troma though. The music is OK. I like the old school brutal death vibes like Broken Hope and early Suffocation but there really wasn't much too the song. I'm still curious about the rest of the album since I liked their EP on Maggot Stomp.
Wasn't Chuck working on a 2nd CD album when he passed?
Necrotic Nick- Yes, but it was never completed sadly.
By the way, Tim Aymar now sings in a group called Angband
Necrotic Nick- I ight have to check them out sometime. This is the only thing I have with him on vocals.
@@thrallsofmetal Also the band Pharaoh.
Retro reviews good idea also would like you guys to re review albums that when you first reviewed did not give such a great score but have grown on you like metal does sometimes and love and vice versa
Necrotic Nick- Actually, we've talked about that before. We might actually do that sometime in the future.
@@thrallsofmetal yeah great just from my personally experienced sometimes some records don’t instantly click and then you think later fuck what was I think also your channel is great and we look to your reviews on records and can influence for sure as your all knowledgable Your channel is awesome love what you are doing
Tim Aymar joined Pharaoh after Control Denied.
For me, this era of Chuck's songwriting showcases how he just didn't know how to compose a song. Earlier stuff was very straightforward and riff focused, so it didn't matter as much how well songs ebbed or flowed, but the more progressive he attempted to get, the more jarring the transitions became. He certainly had the riffs still, that never ever went away, but this and The Sound of Perseverence were loaded with very messy songwriting. I found that odd at the time because Symbolic was probably his most focused in terms of songwriting, and then to go the direction they went just pained me to listen to. Not for me.
Necrotic Nick- I like this album but I definitely prefer Death and I am more of a fan of earlier stuff like Leprosy and Spiritual Healing. This is consider the rough draft of what was to come. I think the follow up would have probably had more of an identity of its own and probably would have been compared less to Death. It was a hell of a transition but ultimately I think Chuck did a pretty good job.
I agree totally, his arrangements were always a huge flaw, for the most part of his career he used essentially the same structure for every song until the Sounds album, and then his last two albums definitely had some odd and jarring transitions. I wish he had a collaborator he trusted enough to help him arrange things a bit better. That being said, Chuck is definitely one of the greatest ever, and deserves all the praise he's gotten.
@@nailedtoeternity no question Chuck is one of the most important people in metal and a true hero, but he was definitely not without his own flaws.
@@thrallsofmetal I'm a ITP through Symbolic kind of guy, but I'll enjoy any of his albums to a degree, even this one, it's just a significant step back from what I like about Chuck's music, to me.
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Did you hear Symbolik new album yet ?
Necrotic Nick- Actually, I’m not really familiar with them to be honest.
@@thrallsofmetal Heard a song tonight for the first time check it out.
“Abruptly changing your sound...”. *cough* Opeth *cough* Mikael Akerfeldt *cough*...
Necrotic Nick- Yeah, even Watershed wasn’t enough of a transition to Heritage.
Had this on CD, briefly, but sold it. I wanted to like it because I played the shit out of Sound of Perseverance but I really couldn't get past the power metal vocals. Tried checking it out again, still can't stand the vocals. Power metal vocals just aren't my thing.
Necrotic Nick- I'm really iffy on power metal vocals but I really did like Tim's vocals on this. There's a gruffness to them and they don't come off too singsongy all the time. He had a really good range and could get pretty raw when the part called for it.
Tim aymar wasn't the original choice as the singer, they wanted Warrel Dane to sing on the album but he couldn't because of commitments to Nevermore!
Now imagine a Loomis/Schuldiner duo on top of that... 🤤
Necrotic Nick- Warrel Dane would have been a solid fit. Loomis sweetens the pot even more.
Short Story, for me, big death fan love digiorgio, hates Power metal no matter where its from.... i fucking love the music and hate the vocals.
Necrotic Nick- That was what initially turned me off about them when it came out but oddly enough they didn't bother me as much now. I'm not really a power metal fan either, but Tim did a great job on this.
@@thrallsofmetal its really hard.. i tried damn hard to love that Album
I gave it so much spins... and most of the time i am able to get it. But in this case i failed.
Have it here right now, borrowed it from my friend (again🤣) last week, and gave it another try right few hours ago...
And it really Starts to piss me off man, musically? Masterpiece! But... yeah... maybe next time🥺😉🤘
Classic. Lots of misguided souls on the TH-cam jump off the Death/Chuck bandwagon at or after Human.
Necrotic Nick- I enjoy all of Death's albums but I do favor the earlier stuff more.
"Leprosy" is my favorite but it doesn't seem like the same band by the "Sound Of Perserverance" so it's difficult to compare. I celebrate their entire catalogue.