Making some vaguely Medieval Lanterns 🕯️
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I remember as a history -obsessed kid taking old tin cans and poking holes in them to create a similar old-timey lantern effect. 😊
It was a staple art class / Girl Scout project in our house! This kind of makes me want to do it again…
Oh I hadn’t thought of those in years and years
Saw one where you fill it with sand, pour enough water in after to fill the rest, then freeze it! Makes it easier to punch holes in without deforming it! 👍
@leathornes: I was trying to remember how you keep it from deforming while punching holes. Thank you!
@@leathorns1751 I was hopping on to say this, too! We did this in vacation Bible school (we only used ice--no sand). It was a great summer activity because of the coldness of the ice-filled cans.
I always get the warm & fuzzies when you and Mr. Morgan Donner collab! 😊
I'm the same. I lost my beloved 3 yrs ago... it comforts me to see two people who love one another work together.I miss that that, most.
A little tip if you decide to experiment with make more tin work: Use a length of wire when folding over/rounding your edges - it will give a more uniform shape and prevent crumpled edges. You can remove the wire with a bit of elbow grease or leave them in at your preference (it also adds a touch of reinforcement if you're using really thin material).
As an aside, horn is a naturally layered material - which medieval crafters exploited to get really thin panes of horn by de-laminating/splitting the layers. I assume they could be dyed or bleached (sun bleached maybe?) at that stage for some really bright and colourful lanterns!
Thank you, that’s really helpful and I would love to see how the colors would turn out; it’s sounds really cool 😄
Sounds to me like Morgan needs another lantern!
Yes, they use steam and heat to delaminate the horn as well as shape it.
Heads up...using steam and heat on horn smells pretty bad.
I love it when people share little tips like this. As soon as I read it, I thought, "Yes, of course!" but it would never have occurred to do it. :)
Great tip, we do that around neck and arm openings when we make steel armour! Though what we're using is rigid enough that we roll the edge first then shove the wire in, but every shop is different.
One of my friends in high school was a journeyman tin smith at our local living history museum. I remember her making candle sconces and things dressed in working class 1860s garb. Thanks for the memories
I am 100% with you on not trusting glue alone and relying on needle and thread for sturdyness.
And it is historically accurate to use sinew to sew the items together.
Modern glues are remarkable products, and I’d trust it 😂
I would have used rabbit skin glue, keeping it historically accurate, goes with the parchment (also skin) and you can use the rest for your painting project!
The tin ones are so beautiful! I love the idea of using it like a flashlight with the door open. The wind experiment was really interesting too. Nice work! :)
I'm definitely going to look into getting a kit. I've wanted to make one ever since going to old Sturbridge Village. *squeeee!*
I lived near the Henry Ford growing up, and Greenfield Village had a project to take home where you would take the label off of a soup can, fill it with water and freeze it, then use a nail and hammer to punch holes into the can using the ice in it to support the tin as you hammered. This video brought back some good memories ^_^
As soon as you mentioned both kinda of lanterns, I thought, "Morgan's about to make both of them, isn't she" and I'm so glad to have been right 😂 I loved them both! This was such a cool project.
as someone who has lived through the tumblr girl pumpkin spice latte candle era of 2017, the wood and parchment gives me a heart attack thinking of how flammable that is, but also, very pretty work!
If it is "real" parchment it wont burn easily, its untanned skin.
Hey. I like your shoelaces.
@@mariawhite7337I bet they were stolen from the president. 😊
@@mariawhite7337 thanks, I stole them from the president.
It looked like vegetable parchmentine, which is a modern vellum alternative. I haven’t tested it for fire resistance, but I’d imagine it’s much less flammable than paper.
I have been thinking about what I could seal washi paper with to make it fireproof. Probably just varnish.
I love the way the wooden lantern looks, but my fire phobic self would require an LED candle to use it, lol. Lovely work!
Definitely a "with supervision only" lantern!
They make some flickery candlelight LED tea-lights now that you'd be hard-pressed to tell weren't real candles if you had the lantern door closed.
I own a columnar rechargeable LED lantern I have decorated with wood to look a LOT like this style of lantern. Might be fun for you to try!
@@lorrainemunoa791 I was just thinking of maybe painting the solar rechargeable soft plastic but shaped like this one I have! Then making a nice lantern hook so I can rig it to my backpack and make it hang over our heads....
These were both so cool. The pattern in the tin one was so pretty. The wooden one was so charming and nice. I love both. Great work with the lathe work, Morgan!!! Mr Donner was right
I love this! It seems that so many (non costuber) craft channels are just some older dude silently working with no narration whatsoever, and I like learning the history while I see the stuff get made! 😤 Also, 5:16 that was adorable! 😁
She is always adorable don't you think? 😁
I agree wholeheartedly with both elements of your comment.
I feel like such a snob. In the daylight I was like "eh, I wouldn't want that in my home" but once you showed them at night I was floored. They look amazing. Once again, my day is made thanks to the wonderful video idea, story pacing, and lovely personality. Beautiful
Who else gets really excited when Morgan posts because you always know her next project is going to be great? 😄 I can't wait to see her next wood project, because I love watching her woodworking progress!
And Mr. Donner is very talented aswell, keep up the good work!
I'm not sure about anyone else, but I love when Mr. Morgan Donner joins in the fun! 🥰
Experimental archeology is one of my favorite things! You learn SO much by making it yourself and using it yourself. Like you said about finding out when the wood vs the tin will be more desirable/useful. You can postulate all you want but experimentation gives so much more illumination to the past!! (Yes that was intentional... 😜)
That's so cool! The lantern with the parchment reminded me that entire windows could be made of parchment in the Medieval times. If I recall correctly, some were made for the Guedelon castle project. I think there's a video on it, here on TH-cam.
So, it took some time, but I found again the video I mentioned. Here is the link.
th-cam.com/video/Aq9YJH5wkxE/w-d-xo.html
It is a documentary, the part about the parchment window starts at the 38 minute. Sadly, it is in French and there's no subtitles for English speakers. The most interesting thing about this project is that it is experimental archeology. There are some historical mentions of this type of windows as one of the guests states, but no surviving exemples from that time. So there's a lot of hypotheticals in the making of that window. But the end result is really cool looking, some decorations were even painted on. Really cool.
I wonder if the iPlayer has the Ruth Goodman castle series up at the moment or sometimes Pluto TV have it? For an English narration of the Guedelon project 😊
@@SunnyMorningPancakes I know its on Prime, but not sure if its anywhere else at the moment.
@@prapika500 Thank you so much! I've been looking for this type of video all over TH-cam.
After watching episodes of living on a Victorian Farm near the Shropshire estate owned by Thomas S Acton. I am beyond fascinated with the craftsmanship and the construction! 😍 🏰
My parents have an old tin or iron lantern somewhat similar to these! It's attached to a wooden santa that stands on the porch every christmas to welcome visitors, so I only see it in December, but the light feels very homey and inviting.
The lanterns both turned out so cool. The wooden one reminds me of the ones I've seen here in Sweden, though those use a pig's bladder instead of parchment so you get a solid surface (the candle is inserted through the bottom of the lantern and locked into place.)
Tell me more!
any links for how tos for the pigs bladder part? I got a couple is like to use all of when we butcher this fall
It was so heartwarming to see Mr.Donner! Always enjoy to see your loving couple interaction. The lanterns turned out so cool!
I'm definitely getting the metal kits to make some wonderful little lanterns of my own! Those look great!
Really like the warmer glow that the sheet copper lends to the metal lantern design! Don't know what the ease of working is, in comparison to the tin? But it looks really interesting, esp. if you could prevent the exterior from oxidizing.
@Anna_ in_Aotearoa just an FYI, you CAN treat copper so it doesn't oxidize OR you could treat it with chemicals (liver of sulfer is one) So you get the color immediately! (Or a combination of color, perhaps?!)
Heating copper gives an interesting effect, though you must be careful as once it is heated (annealed) it can become "work hardened" & difficult to work.
That cabin/cottage is turning into a dreamy, cozy place! Love the lanterns; I remember making a similar style from a tin can wirh holes punched in it with a hammer and nail when I was a kid. And it sounds like you might be making a painted wall cloth a la Ruth Goodman and her husband in Tudor Monastery Farm! Super cool.
So glad to watch Mr Donner and his enthusiastic participation! Great yo see you working together!
These turned out awesome. I definitely want to try out my own tin lantern making some time. Also, very excited about this big painting project. Idk if you're planning on using medieval paint methods, but mixing your own paints is super fun. I took an art history course in college all about different mediums through history and we did a whole painting where we used eggs as the paint binder and mixed our own paints with egg whites and pigments. The extra paint doesn't last, but I still have the painting after almost ten years and it looks great. Egg paints are like modern acrylic in that they dry super fast which is nice because oil paints take forever to dry. Anyway, good luck on your painting project!
I believe that type of painting is called "Egg Tempura", should folks want to research more !?
@@m.maclellan7147 It's Egg tempera (tempura is a cooking technique) and typically it was the egg yolk (for the fats) and that or milk paints were used primarily pre-Renaissance-- and by that I mean starting 5000 years ago to about the 13th century, when oil was used to detail tempera paintings. After that using linseed oil was most common until WW2 lead to shortages of linseed and THEN acrylic paints came about. Though then as now wax mixed with pigment (called encaustic painting) was a very interesting medium to use and can make for some really wicked effects, though it doesn't wear as well.
So yes, tempera can last a thousand years+ if cared for properly.
@M water_moon thanks for the correction. I thought it didn't look right, but painting is NOT a skill I possess, lol.
Interesting history as well. Did they ever use duck eggs, I wonder ? I know duck eggs are preferred by pastry chef's as they are "rich" !
With an ostrich egg, you could mix up enough to paint many canvases!? 😉
@@m.maclellan7147 Hmm, I would think that duck eggs would be able to be used, but rarely since ducks only lay once a year and chickens (pre-modern breeding) laid 3-5 clutches a year, making them both harder to come by and more desirable when available.
I got into paints and how they're made when I found out that Leonardo was conducting experiments with his most famous Last Supper, and thus it started to flake nearly right away. He even got called back just a few years after painting it to fix some damage. DaVinci having to do warranty repairs doesn't really match with his reputation today so I found it hilarious!
The punched-metal lanterns would be excellent for a cozy night with a significant other. Just beautiful!
I think 19:00 is a really great inside into your relationship 😂 Mr Donner contemplating and you playing around. absolutely love it ❤
Your house needs portraits of Mr. and Mrs. Morgan Donner in the appropriate style! I can't help but think of The Portrait of Giovanni Arnolfini and His Wife. I don't know if you would like that one, but it is one of my favorites because there is so much use of symbolism to tell the story.
Wow, I'm so impressed with all of the work you put into the lanterns and how beautiful they are when they're lit. It really makes you picture what a tavern or house would have looked like at the time.
Morgan, during the Pandemic you started my Historic Sewing journey by inspiring me to make a Kirtle.
This led me to learning skills that helped me get a job at a Living History Museum.
I now work as a Tinsmith, Blacksmith and Potter.
Things have come full circle, qnd seeing you make a Tin Plate lantern made me smile. 🥰
You did a great job with tools that, while not 100% what we use, were surprisingly effective! Well done!
And I can answer your question regarding the reason the candlestick holder has a slight gap:
You guessed correctly in that it provides some leeway if a candlestick is slightly too big. That's why we usually keep one part of the base unsoldered, so it can be squeezed tighter.
But the open section is also to shave down a candle that's WAY too big to fit in the holder. In case if squeezing the free side down doesn't work.
I hope this helps! And you would be an amazing Tinsmith/Tinner. 😁
Mr. Morgan Donnor NEEDS a yt channel on his woodwork!!
Love seeing another woman carving into wood! Very nicely done! 😂😁👍
A curled up kitty cat would be a wonderful thing to see in your next painting project.
those were so cool, I liked the metal ones but the wood one just made me smile so much...so great seeing you working together...need such sweetness in life, so thanks!!
Always love seeing you two get into projects together!! 🥰 It's super-cute, and awesome that you're able to share your creative interests, ingenuity & problem-solving (even creating new tools as you go, wow!) Between the two of you, you seem to have a remarkable range of practical skills... and a pretty hefty collection of equipment - moving house must be an interesting challenge! 😅
All three lanterns turned out great. I love the wooden one in particular. That soft glow is lovely.
That being said, I'd love to make a tin one with stars, constellations, and maybe a moon phase circle on the door.
We made lanterns something like that in the metal work portion of our mandatory industrial arts course in middle school. It had different portions, and included cooking, sewing, woodshop, and metal shop. I still remember it decades later because it was so cool. I didn't keep up with any of those skills, but I regret it and wish they'd offered more of them.
I'm a glass blower on a break at my studio and am watching this video while I take a break and drink some water.... I'm already stoked for this video and I'm only 1.5mins in.... 🎉
Looking forward to learning so much and maybe figuring out a fun design for a Lantern of my own!
Yay! Thanks for this vid!
Stunning result AND as someone who isn’t crafty this is fascinating and so impressive. You are really awesome.
You’re “he said I did a good job” is literally me anytime my husband compliments my work 😂 very cute. Also this was super cooooool! I really wanna try and make some of these, I was literally trying to find a wooden lantern a few weeks ago because I don’t have any tools here but now I think it might be a fun project to do with my dad 😂
Wow. Horn is sorta transparent. And it explains the curved shape of the lantern. Well done. I love your videos😊
"We all knew it was gonna be both." I was damn hoping it was gonna be both!
OH MY GOSH THEY MADE LANTERNS TOGETHER!!!
Love them all. Well done.
I could see myself using the metal ones outside, or inside as decorative lights. The wooden one feels like a really good work light. The quality of the light seems to be very even, and well suited to set on a table beside you to enable people to knit or sew by diffuse candle light.
I absolutely adore this video and the wobble warble of the metal sheets made me so happy
Awww! You still get the warm an fuzzies when your hubby compliments you!
I enjoy your energy and skill at making useful items. Working alone or with someone else (like Abby or the mister) you make the experience fun.
Experimental archaeology...my favorite kind. Loved the lanterns.
So much love for these wonderful DIY videos! Its nice to see you branching out into other areas than just textiles. I adore your clothing-making videos, but this just proves that any DIY video in fantastic on this channel ❤ I very much look forward to the next one!
Morgan, the only reason why Mr Donner doesn't snort-laugh at your deadpan comments like I do must be because he's so used to them. I would not have been able to keep a straight face at the "excellently worded" section. Love your way of presenting the things you make!
They are sooo beautiful, all three of them. But I'm especially in love with the copper one that your partner made, but I'm a sucker for copper so that's no surprise. All of them are fabulous, I'd really love to have two or three of each at my place, in different sizes. That would look beautiful. Your projects are always interesting and the end results leave me happily surprised every single time! Thank you for all your hard work :)
Love seeing you two work together, you have a fantastic dynamic ❤😊
You could put the wooden one at the end of a pole so the light is in front and above of you. These videos are always lovely, As for painting something a mural on the wall or something decorative on the ceiling.
Morgan, your "did you hear that? He said it was very nicely done... *blush*" was so freaking relatable. I can't help it, whenever I try a medium that my man is more experienced in, those moments give me a genuine buzz haha
I purchased a tin lamp with glass panels, made in a similar style to this, and I found that it doesn’t take long for the handle at the top of the lantern to become hot AF!
Morgan your creativity and talents are boundless! Loved all the stuff with Mr. Donner too
The lanterns come out beautifully and I'm surprised at how much light they provide!
Such a neat experiment and all the steps and learning along the way alone and as a couple. What a neat experiment. I cant wait to see what type you will be mounting outside your medevil cabin door ❤
Thank you for the wonderful great ideas 😊😊
I'm so glad you did both. They all came out amazing. So pretty. 🤗💕
The part where Mr donner is staring at his lantern in deep thought and you are contently worbling the tin made me die of laughter that was so funny❤
The entire time I was wondering if the candle heated up the handle, especially the wooden one because the top is open and all the heat of the candle would be directed straight to the metal handle and to your hand.
I think the wooden one would be better on a curved staff or something like that to hold it over your head.
It definitely gives off a little heat towards the handle, but most of the year, the night is cool enough that that tiny heat is actually quite nice on your hands. Definitely nowhere near burning.
So much fun! I love that your hubby joins you on some of these projects! It sweet and neat!
Very fun project! I Plan on Making an old Norse style wooden lantern out of wood and rawhide. I thought your husband’s copper lantern was partially beautiful. Copper is so lovely.
Not going to lie, I really love the shots of wood working with beautifully painted nails
Even if you're 'never taking them off' you should always take off any and all rings and jewelry when using shop equipment. A bare hand is a safe hand.
Your hair looks really cute in the explaining Morgan segments- the little clipped back bits and curls! Also, love the patterns the lanterns throw.
Morgan, I love your punched tin lantern. It's beautiful. Also like your husband's copper lantern
@Morgan_Donner I don't know how to do the telegram
What a fun project. It looked like you and Mr. Donner had a lot of fun making your lanterns.
What glorious 🔥 lanterns. Thanks for the concept and construction details, and the inspiration.
The images of lanterns with a seam were those made from vellum, it can be scraped clean and more transparent than most horn panels. I have a slight vellum lantern obsession.... I've got 5 so far... 😊
I am entranced by your medieval perspective, and bringing it all to life!
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And here I was thinking you'd go for lantern posts... you should totally add hooks in the walls where you could hang up the lanterns. :D
We made a version of the both lantern in Kindergarten for the Laternenumzug! The tin lantern was made out of old cans, we punctured little holes with awls or nails and stuff; the wooden one we approximated with the packaging of a camenbert (two for one, especially good if you have two little children) and wax paper. When I got older, the (very flammable) candles got exhanged for these little lights specifically for the St Martin procession, we were living on the edge with all the live flames!
This brings me to the next point! The way you hold the lanterns immediately above the candle worries me a little, we always got burned doing that. The people on the horses had them on sticks as well, so there apparently is historic president for it, if that is an issue!
I love seeing your hair color and style evolve with each other. Your hair looks amazing in this video!
Fun projects! I'm sure someone in the comments might have told you that when soldering you place the iron tip onto where you want to solder then touch the solder to the iron tip directly onto the edge you're sealing. I was kind of impressed it stuck the way you were doing it. The solder will follow the flux which you add a fine line of - to seal it. The metal ones turned out super cute!
ooooh my husband and I are celebrating 9 years today!! Maybe we could buy this kit next year and have a go together!
Really enjoying these recreation projects bc I love seeing the research process. You seem like the kind of person who could casually recreate damascus steel for a project by logic-ing out some manuscripts.
You did a really great job! Especially with the cuffs and double placket! My biggest tip for next time is to avoid picking the pieces/garment up off the table as you work, and never hold it up and let it hang under its own weight until the neckline/shoulders/sleeves are finished. With such drapey fabric every time you pick it up it is probably stretching a bit.
Morning glories and bunnies! This is a great video, I love the way the different lanterns difuse the light and how they will start some great stories.
Oooh! High praise from Mr. Donner! VERY nicely done indeed!! Now… i think I need a wood lathe 😅
Fun History Fact;
(Something I learned at Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Mi.) Due to the fact that the tin is pierced from the inside>out, the resulting funnel-shape of each piercing does not let wind/breeze/breath into the lantern. However, there is plenty of air/oxygen to keep the candle lit.
Pretty cool, huh?!?
i think the groove in the metal base is so you use the whole candle as opposed to the wax puddling and killing the flame. everything was a luxury for most so the last inch of wax was important to use. beautiful lanterns! A++
They are too adorable! I’m loving this adorable cabin~.
The couple crafting section made me wanna cry, it was so cute. 😭
During last years cat.5 that hit florida we were without power and water. We made hooded lanterns with tea lights, mugs, and aluminum foil
I love the mid-19th century Slavic maiden vibes from your outfit.
Morgan continuously wobbling the tin is me always
As kids, we made lanterns by hammering holes in tin cans with a hammer and nail. This is totally simple and looks amazingly similar 😊
Those looked SO GOOD! Now I want to make a lantern too!!
I work part-time in an armour shop, loved watching you figure out all the metalworking stuff. And my mentor always used to say when something fell onto the shop floor, "It's found a more stable location." Because of all the pointy bits and burrs and sharp edges, I wear a pair of mechanic's or carpenter's gloves (the really thin gardening gloves will work too) for most of my metalworking, at least until I know I've got all the burrs polished off all my pieces. Home Depot here actually sells honest to gods work gloves that fit small hands and are not pink, it's awesome.
And yeah, Sharpie and metal is... messy. We use lacquer thinner to clean it off.
And you should hear the worble worble of a nice sheet of 18ga steel... the 16 ga is what we mostly use but the thinner stuff definitely worbles better.
I love that woodworking partner played along with the “you? Lathe? Sure!”
I love that Mr. Donner bought the kit and grabbed himself some material so y'all could have a side by side project. Very sweet. ❤
beautiful work! I love watching you two work together. Thanks for this one. I am writing a novel and I describe lanterns used outside... watching you walking with your hand made ones was helpful!
My daughter and I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video.
What a super fun project. I can’t decide which one I like better. I love your videos!
Gosh, all three of the lanterns are so well made and beautiful! Was fun to see you working on a project together :)
Two (three, even!) lanterns in the same video? You spoil us, Miss Donner! Most TH-camrs would have split that into two videos
I'm relatively new to this channel but I'm loving it so far. With the soldering, you might benefit from a bit more flux and from pre-tinning your pieces before joining them. The solder follows the heat and also conducts heat really well, so two pre-tinned mated surfaces join really solidly and then allow you to feed more solder in from the edges -- it will get sucked into the join and end up forming a really tidy concave edge around the perimeter. Looks neater, but also guarantees a really strong bond.
I have recently given into the impulse to buy paper lanterns-but I have erred on the side of safety and gotten electric lights for them lol. All of the lanterns turned out really well and you seem very pleased with them. Thank you for sharing! ❤
I really enjoy your experimental.and scientific approach to
projects (with the occasional bit of punk!). Great how the Mr. is so supportive
All the lanterns are amazing! I really like the wood one. Perhaps, you all should consider offering it as a kit; I would certainly purchase one.
The copper made the light kind of pink. So beautiful
Fascinating. Thanks for taking us on another of your crafting adventures. This may maake it on my todo list, once i finish a few more quilt UFOs. Keep up the interesting work!
You are so insanely creative. I love the lanterns. Nice to see Mr Morgan Donner.