Hello! I want to add some _nuance_ to the discussion because of course there's plenty. Kerosene isn't the only fuel that these lanterns are capable of burning, and some options that are available now are less unpleasant for indoor use. And as a matter of fact, one of the things these are still useful for is emergency heat since they're putting out quite a lot. However, *not every fuel is safe to use in them* so my official advice is don't use these lanterns indoors at all. The room I film in is quite poorly ventilated without the HVAC system running so it was a pretty non-ideal situation, but the room smelled like an airport and my throat was getting irritated. It's unpleasant and makes me feel terrible for the millions of people who still rely on kerosene for their lighting fuel. (also, to be clear, kerosene by itself isn't the problem - kerosene heaters are widely available, but modern designs can burn the fuel much more completely for a safer and much less unpleasant exhaust. These lanterns literally haven't changed since the 19th century)
You might consider outside filming an option in such cases again in the future, just as you did film some stuff outside in the times back before your studio. Stay safe and ideally please don't suffocate yourself for your videos.
Speech 100, agreed :) And that's before we get into structure, writing, humor and wit! Some people always assert that "the pun is the lowest form of wit". I think that's needlessly reductionist and generally pretentious: These videos are a great example of how puns can really elevate a talk. I love the humor in these videos 🖤
Is this kerosene actually that close to the Jet A-1 variant modern jet engines burn? I now jet fuel is actually quite close to Diesel Oil. To add to the confusion, what is used in lamps is called "Lampenöl" (lamp oil) or Petroleum in German. Jet fuel is "Kerosin", "Paraffin" is the waxy stuff candles are made from.
@@alexanderkupke920 Jet A1 is kerosene that has been dewaxed, removing all the longer chain molecules, so that it will not turn to slush at -40C in the aircraft fuel tanks. The wax that is removed is further classified by melting point, so you get soft waxes that melt around 40C or lower, often sold as Vaseline or petroleum jelly, and harder waxes that melt around 70C, which are used to make candles, and as a base for many cosmetics and shoe polish. Higher melting point waxes are also used in industrial applications for various things. Diesel oil is very close to paraffin or kerosene, just has a somewhat less and slightly different range of melting and boiling points and density. To further confuse things you also have Rocket kerosene, which is a very highly refined Jet A1, that is designed not to freeze till around -100C, and which also has even less wax in it. In general you can run the diesel vehicle on kerosene, but it will run poorly, as diesel has additives in it to lubricate the fuel system, which is needed, plus the wax will tend to clog fuel lines and injectors as it flows through and undergoes local cooling. Same for a jet engine, which will run on diesel, though it will smoke heavily, as the fuel is not being fully burnt before it leaves the combustion chamber. Run a modern GDI engine on kerosene and it will very quickly fail, but older mechanical injection engines do not care, and will run on diesel, kerosene, Jet A1 or even vegetable oil, provided you can get it liquid enough to flow through the pump. Lamp oil can be also a blend, with it consisting of a mix of kerosene, diesel and even lighter oils and benzene to make it light easier, and also can have aromatic oils added to it to have an odour other than the distinct one.
Heya, have really enjoyed this series. I'm a Chemical engineer and specifically work with combustion processes. For heat output, we actually care quite a bit about preheating combustion air with waste heat because it improves fuel efficiency as you're using less of the energy from combustion to get the air to the flame temperature. Realistically, for light output it probably doesn't make a meaningful difference to the fuel consumption. I'd hazard it was more likely that they Dietz was probably trying to look at air preheat for flame stability, as combustion tends to be better behaved & more stable when heat is already present.
I reasoned this and was going to post something about maybe the cold blast design was preheating the combustion air to help the fuel on the wick reach it's flash point and burn it more efficiently.
Combustion engines operate on a volume difference of cold and heated gas. Fuel is used to rapidly heat up gas inside a cilinder, so maybe colder air means more expansion and beter power output of an engine? I'm not a mechanical engeneer, so I'm guessing here so...
I, too, was surprised to learn that wicks needed to curl in order for candles to work properly. I always assumed that that's how it always worked. It never occurred to me that the wicks needed to be exposed to oxygen rich air to properly burn away (though, this does make perfect sense).
@@calebnieves4744up vote is general internet terminology. Kinda how likes has become. Even if platforms call them different things(like hearts or whatever).
Speaking of confusing names for hydrocarbons, in my language (Czech), Kerosene is known as "Petrolej", which sounds similar to Petroleum (i.e. crude oil), and Petrol, which in America is called Gasoline, often shortened to Gas, though it isn't actually gas but liquid, and we call that "Benzín", which is pronounced exactly like Benzene, but that's a different chemical substance, which we call just "Benzen". It's not to be confused with Benzine, which is another name for Petroleum Ether, which isn't really an Ether, because actual Ethers are hydrocarbon derivates, whilst Petroleum Ether is a petroleum fraction with a low boiling point, which is the real reason why it's called Ether - it's on a basis of similar physical property, rather than chemical similarity. In German, where Gasoline is called "Benzin", Benzene is known as "Benzol", but in Czech "Benzol" actually means BTX, which is a mixture of Benzene, Toluene and Xylene. Regular Kerosene, like the one used in lamps is called "Petroleum" or "Petrol" in German, but aviation Kerosene, i.e. jet fuel, in German is "Kerosin". In Czech, we also call diesel fuel "Nafta", which sounds like Naphtha, but isn't the same thing, Naphtha is actually a name sometimes used for White Gas, which isn't gas but liquid, isn't white but clear, and can mean three different things (see wikipedia), but most common one is a fluid used in camp stoves, lanterns or lighters or as a solvent. Closest thing to Naphtha we have in our language is "Technický benzín" (literally 'technical gasoline'), but don't confuse it with normal gasoline, because if you put it in a gasoline engine, it's not going to like it. Naphtha, or White gas, also shouldn't be confused with White Spirit, a.k.a mineral turpentine which, surprise surprise, isn't really white or spirit, and is definitely not a turpentine (a distilled tree resin). We call it "Lakový Benzín" (literally 'varnish gasoline'), except it's not really a gasoline either. It's more like a paint thinner. If you want to know what we call paint thinner in Czech, it's "Ředidlo", which literally means "dilutant". Mind you, there are many different types of "Ředidlo" which I'm not going to list here... Interestingly, in Poland (which is right next door from us), Kerosene is called "Nafta", and diesel fuel (remember that is what us Czechs call "Nafta"), is known as "Olej napędowy" (literally "driving oil"), or colloquially "Ropa", which in Czech actually means crude oil, but is sometimes used as a derogatory name for diesel fuel. Crude oil in Polish is "Ropa Naftowa". In case it wasn't confusing enough already... Edit: i've had to make some corrections here and there because the nomenclature across languages is such god awful mess, I got lost in it myself. But at least we can make fun of it :D. Thank you for all the likes and replies.
I am 76 years old, live on an island 140 kilometres off the north coast of British Columbia and frequently rely on lanterns which, up until now, i have done so in total ignorance. Thank you for this illuminating presentation.
Hey old man, get yourself a solar panel and some LED lamps and do your part, air travel is already too expensive. Or can I interest you in killing some of those pesky whales off your island shores and rendering some of that sweet sweet blubber
Speaking as someone who did industrial combustion for many years, pre-heating combustion air is actually something that is done because it increases the efficiency as well and allows for higher temperatures to be achieved. The reason being is that you don't have to heat the incoming air to the temperature you need which actually wastes heat energy. The reason you want a cold air intake into your car engine however is for the higher density that colder air contains which naturally also means more oxygen because your not trying to heat the engine. If your interested in learning more about pre-heating in combustion systems the term your want to look up is "regenerative combustion burner" as they can explain it much better than I can.
I would add that engine analogy doesn't seem to really apply. As far as I can remember combustion engines use, at least in part, gas temperature (and thereby pressure) difference to generate torque. Cool running engine is more efficient. A lamp kept cooler isn't as it doesn't cycle. I have a sneaking suspicion this was just throw away joke made before a real point. The comment is written, so I might just post it anyway.😅
As I long-windedly explain in my public comment, cold air intakes only became popular with multi port EFI engines. Prior to that, carbureted engines needed heated intake air in order to atomize fuel well enough to meet emissions standards.
@@AntiCookieMonster to the best of my knowledge, the pressure change due to temp only matters in regard to how much oxygen is actually in the cylinder, and thus how much fuel can be combusted. Conveniently, EFI engines pump fuel into the cylinders based on the manifold air pressure (or i'm pretty sure they do), which means that the higher pressure of colder air will also result in higher fuel pumped into the cylinders, and since that denser air does have enough oxygen to combust that extra fuel, you get more power.
Lol I just commented theorizing the same thing lol guess I should have scrolled a little further down and seen someone who actually knew confirming my theory
There is still confusion here. I started repairing cars and other vehicles in the 1960s and stopped in 2018 as a professional. After gasoline engines are at operating temperature, many stopped heating the air fuel mixture, This was before and after emission controls were added. Heating was done for fuel economy more than emission concerns. atomization may have improved, but if the air fuel ratio was around 14.7 to 1, the compression cycle added plenty of heat and turbulence to atomize for proper combustion. The factories were pressured to have clean exhaust and get good economy at the same time. They would lean mixtures as far as possible, the engines produce low power and often Hydrocarbons increased if everything wasn't perfect. Warmer intake temps caused higher oxides of nitrogen to be produced, which was a controlled emission gas. They added EGR systems that put exhaust into the fuel air mixture, not to heat it, but to add an inert substance that cooled combustion temps to lower the oxides of nitrogen. things got back on track when computers started controlling nearly everything and actually enriched the fuel air ratio so the catalytic converters could get hot enough to clean the exhaust. Best horsepower occurs with cool air and fuel. Of course if you look into Smokey Yunick's expander cycle engine, than all of the above means nothing. Maybe it's a hoax?
@@marcfuchs6938 Web search for "Deez nuts"... Urban dictionary has an explanation... Also, you are not the first German to be in the dark about "nuts" (admittedly, a different usage)... taskandpurpose.com/history/us-army-nuts-bastogne-surrender/
Another lantern use: My dad was born in the Mojave Desert in 1916. If someone had to go outside at night, one lamp was sufficient for light, but they would carry two. One near each ankle. Rattle snakes would strike at warm temperatures, so they would strike the lanterns instead of people's legs.
feels to me like that would work about as well as bug zappers.. you're still attracting them to the general area, and giving the snakes way too much credit vis-a-vis aim. Surely it's easier to just armor your ankles.
@@KairuHakubi It's not really so much attracting them though, just directing their strike. It's not like the rattlesnake would notice a person and move towards the heat in order to hunt, but more that IF the person stumbled across the snake, as is likely to happen at times, it provided a better place for them to strike than bare, or near-bare, skin.
@@keithlarsen7557 okay but you will agree that the skills involved in chasing a furry gumball hopping along at a few inches per second are VERY different from the skills involved in striking at what amounts to two moving trees.
Regarding pre-heating the incoming air: every coal fired power plant I ever worked in ran intake air through a pre-heat section before adding it to the fuel to improve combustion. In automobiles, using cold intake air is an attempt to add a few more molecules of oxygen to the mix in the combustion chamber before compression begins. A coal fired furnace, like a kerosene lamp, has no compression cycle. and hotter intake air improves the combustion in that case.
The exhaust of hot air is a type of pollution. Cool the exhaust by giving the heat to the fuel so that you pollute less. Also, even if the chemical reactions of kerosene oxidation are not reversible, are not in equilibrium with the reverse chemical reactions, the raise in temperature still grants an increase of the forward reaction rate.
You’ll find the same preheating in your gas furnace to increase combustion efficiency (or oil boiler; but I know the Elmhurst area is almost all natural gas & forced hot air era homes). The closer you can get the incoming air to the auto ignition temperature of the fuel the more efficient the combustion…technically preheating the air above that would be better but inherently more dangerous for run away combustion incidents. A lot of systems also try to add some minor level of compression too push the limits of efficiency but this will never be as critical as a combustion engine because of the open nature of standard furnaces (sealed blast combustion furnaces are another matter).
@@liennen5868 You are not "polluting" less in this scenario. You are simply keeping heat in the system for slightly longer. Additionally someone using a kerosene lantern may not consider its release of heat to be a pollutant at all.
Great video. As an engineer I would like to add my two cents. The thought that cold air is used for more power in engines is not relevant here. Cold air is denser so it allows more air (oxygen) to be put into the cylinder for more power output. Hot air in a lantern results in a higher flame temperature and thus more light from the incandescent soot particles. But the air must not be mixed with exhaust gas. That lowers the oxygen content and flame temperature like exhaust gas recirculation ( EGR) in an engine. Another safety feature of hurricane lamps compared to the glass chimney type is lower exhaust temperature. You can light a cigarette over the glass chimney (or curtains or an upper shelf). This allows the hurricane lamp to be carried hanging from a handle, without burning your hand. To light a cigarette with a hurricane lamp you have to lift the glass and use the flame.
I can definitely confirm that the air direcly above a glas chimney type kerosene lamp is hot enough to give a small child in the 80s who has just learned about shadow hand puppets first-degree burns without making any contact with the lamp itself. Also you can cook a marshmallow but it will taste like kerosene.
I somehow have the idea that in cars hot exhaust air is used to preheat the air intake. Also my oven preheats air by passing the air that is taken behind and above the burn chamber, this allows for better and cleaner burning of the wood & gases (oven is surrounding air independant, as we have a controlled ventilation system in the house, the air gets taken in from the chimney at the top of the roof, travels down and around the chamer as explained). So I figured it does make sense to preheat the air for this lantern type aswell.
@@moos5221 cars used to do this in the early 80’s, yes. Carburetor models used this to keep the air volume more consistent and to warm up the air in cold climates. I imagine fuel reacted differently being injected into freezing air drawn into an intake than being injected directly into the chamber. However, fuel injection eliminated all that. Then the focus went into increasing the amount of O2 in the chamber, hence why cold dense air was preferable for a naturally aspirated engines.
These lamps were the only source light even 15 years back in my village when electric supply wasn't available. The first electric lines arrived 15 years ago but electricity supply was rather erratic so these lanterns (called lal-ten in the local dialect) were fairly common for a long time after that (still are common?). These days, electricity supply is more reliable and there are LED bulbs with built in batteries so these lamps are being used less and less.
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@@aliceeliot6389 I don't live in the said village. Neither did I live there as a child. My father served in the Indian military and I lived across India in various military campuses. My grandparents lived in the village though and every year, we used to spend about a month in the village during the school summer breaks. I have very fond memories of my time in the village, specially since my parents didn't dare discipline me and my sisters in front of our grandparents. And yes, there is cellular internet in the village now. It's 4G LTE with decent speed but nothing extraordinary. There used to be landline telephone in the village. I don't know if broadband was/is available.
Man I have wanted to go to India my entire life to see what is happening. One of the most influential talks I had with my great grand mother. She saw wagon trains going west on the plains. She did with seeing the internet becoming a thing. The change the entire world is going through. It is mind boggling. The area where I am at in the US we get power outages. So i keep back ups of everything. Going to other places in the world. As a US citizen get irrationally angry at people around me.
It would be nice to mention about Ignacy Łukasiewicz, Polish inventor that was first in the world to built modern oil refinery in 1956. His achievements included the discovery of how to distill kerosene from seep crude oil, the invention of the modern kerosene lamp (1853), the introduction of the first modern street lamp in Europe (1853), and the construction of the world's first modern oil well (1854).
Holy crap, you mentioned the mushroom shape of non-auto-trimming candle wicks, and that brought back memories from when I made candles as a kid with cotton string!
Experience from living in extremely rural Papua New Guinea in 2017-18. Improvements in batteries, LEDs and solar panels has pretty much eliminated kerosene lamps in the last few decades. People in my village grew up using kerosene lamps but the only one I ever saw was retrofitted with and LED bulb and just used for aesthetics. Everyone that saw it offered to help the owner set it up correctly because the LED was far dimmer than the original kerosene.
I have two of these lanterns. One is intended more for decoration but is still functional, the other is less decorative, more sturdy in construction, and in general more practical. I have them because I have a liking for archaic lighting, among other archaic things.
Here's my take on the cold air intake: The "hot blast" furnace was created 1828, preheating the air increases the combustion temperature and thus the efficiency. So why not in cars? In a car the desired output is not heat but mechanical work. To maximize the work done you need to control your ignition timing very precisely, if your combustion temperature gets over a certain threshold you start losing that control, what follows is knock, preignition and ultimately engine damage, at least in a gasoline engine. (NOX emissions in a diesel) By cooling the intake air you can literally cram in more oxygen molecules into the combustion chamber. In WW2 they played around with water/methanol injection in their aircraft engines to cool the mixture and prevent knock to advance timing, and therefore make more power.
Engines ultimately generate power from the expansion of the air, so the cold air also improves the efficiency of the cycle (better "cold side" of the heat engine). And the steam generated by water injection is also a benefit - there were even some attempts at six-stroke engines that alternate a four-stroke cycle with a steam-powered stroke that generates some power and cools the engine from the inside. Burners want to burn as hot as possible to optimize combustion. I have one of those Biolite wood-burning stoves and you can really tell when the preheating kicks in. There is a good reason blast furnaces also use heat exchangers. So yeah, the preheating in the lamp is a reasonable idea, although I'd probably try a different approach. Also, you can't overdo it as it reduces the chimney effect, which is more important here.
If that's the case, then pre-heating the air probably is helpful for these; as like incandescent lighting, the light they produce is from a physics perspective a byproduct of heat.
I was thinking the hot air should evaporate the kerosine quicker. changing from liquid to vapor is a REALLY big potential energy loss. I bet it burns more efficiently with hot air supply. less fuel per a specific lumen measure.
28:52 The reason is likely to do with using these in very cold climates, kerosene >100 years ago wasn't formulated like it can be today and jells (freezes) at like -40c. This design would preheat the air and also the wick as well as the fuel tank allowing it to draw fuel even when its very cold.
@@andrewdenby8239 It could also be inertia of engineering thinking. Preheating of air was a common idea that made steam engines much more efficient and to this day is used in better-designed woodburners. So he might have thought it was better for the lamps too. It takes time and other people's inputs to overcome the inertia and make the new inventions optimal. After all, first cars did look like horse carriages.
@@blg53 Yeah, my first thought was that preheated intake air made smelting furnaces far more efficient, maybe he was basing it on that. Of course, steam boilers and blast furnaces used heat exchangers to do that and didn't have the problem of mixing the exhaust with the intake air.
I concur. a similar design is used in old "smudgepots" that burn kerosene but also heavier fuels like diesel and motor oil. The heating can also have an added evaporative effect causing more fuel to burn and thus more heat/light. Terribly dirty devices, used for heating orchards, but they can be great to watch.
so my dad used to live on a farm when he was a kid, and he lived in tornado alley, he always talked about a red Dietz lantern that somehow through a tornado that devastated the entire property, survived on its post, but also remained lit throughout. its broken now and doesnt work, but it sits on my grandfather's mantlepiece to this day. mind you, that lantern was old when my dad was a boy, and he was a boy in the early 60s.
How nice. They aren’t that hard to fix. Google a video. Also, can’t have been too old when your dad was a boy. They started painting them in the mid 1950s. Of course, it could’ve been hand painted by somebody.
@@levislanterntime1926 true, but it broke back in the late 70s early 80s if i understand my grandfather's ramblings. though I should have added its been lost as of the last few years, grandfather got a bit old and senile and needed extra care so he went to an assisted living home, and that was 2ish years ago. nobody's seen it since really, so rip.
@@swapertxking These kinds of original farm equipment are quite popular for decoration so if there was any sort of estate sale or someone was paid to clear out the house, it would've been snapped up really quickly. Sorry it went missing.
1. Paraffin is a term in the US used for liquid paraffin (I believe a slightly lighter fraction than candle wax paraffin) which is a type of aliphatic oil lacking in aromatic compounds, thus having less odor. It is often formulated in odorless mineral spirits. It less volatile and has a higher flashpoint than kerosene. Many use it as an odorless alternative to kerosene. This makes it less suitable for larger wicks as the oil won’t evaporate until much of the wick is exposed in the flame, causing the wick to burn off. 2. Dietz wanted to have the hot air to help evaporate the fuel. Kerosene is not very volatile compared to other fuels, and is not even flammable (it is combustible like wood, but far safer than rubbing alcohol). It is a heavier fuel like diesel, I’ve spilled it on concrete and tried to burn it using a lighter but it wouldn’t ignite. It needs to be wicked and heated in order to better vaporize. By pre-heating the air you can increase the amount of fuel that can be burned thus increasing light for a small burner. 3. Many use these lamps not just for the light but for heat. They burn cleaner and cheaper than candles. The standard dead flame lamps put out approx 1600 BTU/hr so it can act as a space heater. The Dietz lanterns are popular because they are much safer and can be easily moved around while lit.
I forgot to mention that there’s Kerosene alternatives like Firefly Fuel which is completely odorless, non-toxic, and eco friendly or Kleen Heat which is odorless but performs just as well as kerosene.
Also his example with the car intake isnt a 1 to 1 since the car intake needs cold air since its basically a heat engine and so benefits in terms of effciency from the greater temperature difference produced from cold air intake. While retaining heat for the lamp is an advantage since useful output is the black body radiation from high temperature so retaining heat is an advantage
The common name varies by country: In the UK, "paraffin" (earlier "paraffin oil"), in the USA, more usually "kerosene". The official name in South Africa is "Illuminating Paraffin". In analytical chemistry, "paraffin" was the generic name for a series of hydrocarbon compounds - now called (I think) "ketones".
when i was a kid (10 years ago), we used these in our home (in india) for lightning as electricity was only available for 4 to 8 hours a day. I was facinated by these and now i know how they work. thank you.
Pre-heating has some theoratical advantages.. Thermodynamically, you are using wasted heat in the exhaust to heat up air, so you would need less fuel to heat it up to the intended temperature. This completely constrasts car engines. In a sort-of oversimplification, otto cycle's power output depends on the difference between the heat input from combustion and heat rejection.. By having initial air colder (and denser), you can always put more fuel to a) use all oxygen completely in a stoichoimetric combustion or b) especially in direct injection cars, to reach intended combustion temperature. In either way, heat input will be greater.. So cold air (freezing winter compared to hot summer) makes the car consume noticably more fuel at WOT (wide open throttle) and also provide more power. If we are talking about engines, pre-heating is actually pretty common for large stream engines like ones on ships. There is 1- air preheater, basically a heat exchanger to heat inlet air with flue gases and 2- an economizer, heats up water at a point after condenser (and usually feed pump) but before it reaches the boiler, with flue gases. Reasoning is the same as gas lamp; Superheating steam to a specific temperature is the main goal, this is done by heating up the air in the air/stream heat exchanger to appropirate temperature. Heating up the water and air beforehand with otherwise wasted heat in the chimney will reduce fuel consumption and increase overall efficiency. Would it really matter for a gas lamp? Probably not. Improving combustion efficiency by, say, 5% will never make a noticable difference for any individual user.
One other advantage would be to aid vaporization of the fuel. It would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the 2 operating in at very cold temperatures. Say -20F or lower
I agree that the efficiency increase is probably too incremental to be a design feature of the 1800's. That said, if you are in a cold enough environment, the combustion might not become considerably less clean if you aren't per-heating your air. It would have to be pretty cold though, and it would easily be rectified by increasing the wick height to burn a little more kerosene.
Exhaust heat recuperation is also not uncommon in marine-based and land-based gas turbine engines. Modern gas turbine engines in warships tend to incorporate some form of heat recuperation, and is very common practice in power plants (though large power plants may make use of exhaust heat for other purposes, like using the hot exhaust gas to heat water which then power a separate steam turbine). I agree with you though, probably makes negligible difference when it comes to a kerosene burning lamp.
Actually this doesn't contrast car engines either. Peak fuel efficiency is found with the hottest intake temperature before you run into problems with the combustion event (preignition) The power output is lowered but the efficiency rises. Some cars show a noticeable mpg difference in summer compared to winter even after brought up to operating temp with the same fuel blends. lower density air needs more throttle, less fuel and leads to slightly less pumping losses. Some older cars would draw intake air directly from the outside of the exhaust manifold to get this effect.
I truly can't think of anything i wouldn't enjoy learning from you. Thank you for the content and doing your part to bring us all a little closer together. Heavens knows, we need it more than ever.
I’m going to be honest with you, we’ve had Dietz lanterns in my house for as long as I can remember, yet I never actually wondered how they worked. Thank you for this.
I have gotten a lot of those cheap Walmart hurricane lamps I never had any problem with them. My dad used to have a bunch of antique and older lamps for camping. Including these in the video. But the problem is somebody broke into our shed and stole them all. Leaving the Walmart lanterns behind. They even took the old Coleman's.
@I care Ah yes, you again. Mine telling us which publishers of the Quran release books suited for use as a flame wicking substitute? Knowing this would also help me source paper to treat the Bible in equal regard, just so you don't think this is a dig at your faith _solely._
I’ve remodelled a couple of older homes. To recapture the look of the ceilings, we painted the ceiling with an oil paint, raise the kerosene lamp up to the wet paint and “swirl” the lamp, creating a smoky cloud-like look. It looked beautiful and retained its look. We always did have one person standing by with a hose in case something went amiss.
I had several of these along with a Coleman lantern (with a mantle that glowed) when I was living in Zaire (now DRC). We couldn't always get mantles. It was certainly hard to grade papers in the light from a storm lantern. Having a science background, it's strange that I used them for so long without really looking at them to see how they worked. Thank you for the video.
The smell of these takes me back to my childhood, my family used to use these when the power went out, which back then happened a lot in the winter. Good times, we would read books and play board games. I have many fond memories of lying around near the woodstove with a lantern and candles burning for light while it snowed outside. Honestly one of my more cozy memories that I cherish. I actually was inspired to bust out my storm lantern and give it a good burn, just to make sure it still works.
My BEST Christmas experience in the last decade was a meal out at a remote inn a couple of years ago where a thunderstorm caused a power-cut. We had candles everywhere and there was a huge open fire going. Eventually we turned out into the snow and drove home over a mountain pass on fresh snow. So reminiscent of my childhood winters in the 70's with lanterns, candles and cosy nights round the fire.
I love the utility of these but find the smell of kerosene nauseating because of past less fond memories. Lol. When my family hit hard times we couldn’t afford a gas bill to keep the house warm. We heated it just enough to keep the pipes from freezing and we had a kerosene heater in the kitchen where we would gather for homework and meals. I don’t miss those days.
@@johnarnold893 We had a Coleman mantle lamp too, but for whatever reason my parents usually reserved that for the kitchen. We used kerosene lamps and candles otherwise. This was back in the late 70s. I've been looking into getting some paraffin oil for my feuerhand lamp. it's supposed to be less stinky.
15:22 BOFA DEEZ LANTERNS. HE KEPT GOING. MAN'S UNSTOPPABLE lmao I love finding fellow quiet types with surprisingly risqué humor. TH-cam got it right recommending this channel to me
We still have one at home for emergency use during cyclones (we live in a coastal area in India and electricity supply gets disrupted for days during cyclones). 20 - 25 years ago, we had to use it almost daily, back then the electricity supply in our region was totally unreliable. A lot of folks of my generation and older have spent their childhoods studying in the light of these lanterns.
We used to have these when i was a kid in W africa. Although I did prefer reading by candle light (3-4 candles minimum) coz the vents of the dietz lamp were right at face level and u ended up breathing the exhaust... And For all the years i recall, it never fell or tipped over. But we didn't have tide pods either.
This was my childhood experience, too but in the US, and around the same time or maybe 5-10 years prior. We'd lose power every year for weeks during hurricane season, and just randomly for a day or two at a time all year due to rains or wind. By the time I was an adult they had both improved the wiring and also cut most of the trees that were close enough to the lines to regularly cause trouble. We had the glass type of lamp and they got really hot.
I remember these lanterns very well because we still use them in the Swedish military to keep light in tents. I would guess the reason is that it produces a quite pleasant light that is bright enough for the fire-watch to be able to see but dim enough for the rest to be able to sleep comfortably. Maybe it's also easier to get a hold of kerosene than to replace flashlight batteries as well.
NATO forces have standardized on JP8 (Jet Fuel/Kerosene) for all air and land based operations, so this fuel would be very common in a military setting
The writing was fantastic on this episode. I never imagined myself ever caring about topics like this. Your videos about Christmas light videos drew me in and I’m very happy they did.
I used to be a candle designer. You mention the "self-trimming wick", but there's also another thing that influences how a candle wick burns. We've all seen those dribbling candles so beloved of Hollywood horror film makers. However, you're probably also familiar with the "night light" candles which have a small wick inside a very wide candle. These burn for many hours and are (relatively) safe to leave burning in a sleeping room because of the very stable wide base and, more so, because the flame burns down inside the candlewax. Let's take this further. Upscale the size of the candle so its diameter is 6 inches. This will also have the long burning characteristics of the night light. As you said, it's the vaporised candle that gets burnt and not the wick itself. So such a candle might burn for an incredibly number of hours. But there's even more to this. If your candle is correctly designed, with the appropriate thickness of wick. Then the candle can be designed to either consume all of those six inches of way (for better economy) or, as was typically the case in a drafty medieval church or cathedral, to burn hollow. You want the candle to burn hollow, leaving a thin wall of wax to protect the flame from those drafts. Now, if your candle flame is protected by that wall of unburnt way, it doesn't just prevent any risk of the flame being blown out, but the flame will burn brighter. Of course, it is crucial to get the size of the wick and the width of the candle exactly right, as there needs to be enough space between the oxygen-consuming flame and the protective unburnt wax walls, else oxygen rich air won't get pulled down that hollow tube that burning your candle is creating. But, get these things correct and you have something so beloved of religions the world over, a sort of "eternal flame" burning in our medieval church or cathedral. Next. Well, we all know that medieval churches and particularly cathedrals are decorated with the most beautiful religious carvings. Having a candle that burns hollow presented the designers with an opportunity to richly carve such scenes on the outside of these large candles. And, because the outer carved walls won't get consumed by burning the candle, the craftsmanship isn't sacrificed in the burning. Indeed, if the craftsman so wishes, he could use the light of the flame burning down inside the candle to illuminate the richly carved design from within. It's also possible to refill the empty tube with new wax and wick, to reuse the carved candle. Such richly carved religious candles are still available in modern day Germany. While my own interest is that I designed similar carved candles for the high end tourist souvenir market, depicting carvings inspired by England's medieval cathedrals. Returning to your fabulously informative series on lights and how they work. I can only say a heart-felt Thank You. I've learnt so much from you, and hope you won't mind my stealing a little of your light (pun intended) by adding this small piece.
I am number B. the messenger. do not kill the messenger, if you hate the message. why do you hate the message? brainwashed & programmed? or have you been told to hate the message? i hate satanist doG with big g i hate satanist dogs with small g i hate satanist doG = i hate satanist God i hate satanist dogs = i hate satanist gods(people who want to be a god) who was the original satanist (j c)? those rich satanist assholes who run this world, have brainwashed & programmed people from a young age. satanist prayer is for us to forgive those satanist assholes but our prayer is for us to punish those satanist assholes. why? for all the pain they have given us. i have too tell people about God & how people have been brainwashed in believing about their satanist doG = God. forgive= NO.. punish= YES
Yeah us Catholics (by birth, they get you when you're young) are very aware of what you're talking about. That's why it's quite sad to see LED replacements. Because the wax wall shields you from view of the actual flame it can just be swapped with an LED.
Reminds me of an old series on BBC called "Connections," hosted by James Burke. He would expertly, and humorously, traverse the intertwined scientific, political, and environmental avenues of history that all came together in peculiar ways to bring us modern commonplace conveniences and systems.
Brilliant! What a great presentation. I always thought the side tubes were some cheap way of constructing the lamp from pressed steel. Knowing their purpose gives me new respect for the excellent design.
Excellent history lesson on these lanterns. Well done. I own a Feuerhand lantern from Germany and burn quality paraffin oil. No smell, bright flame albeit slightly less than kerosene.
I'm from Namibia, Africa. These lamps are still in daily use by us. It is still the "best" option in many areas compared to the available alternatives. Thanks for a very interesting video.
I am from the UK and I still use them also, especially during the summer months. They give a beautiful light, better than the other guy’s computer screen 😄.
When I was a child, electricity supply in my home town was extremely unstable, and we would often have black outs that lasted for one or two days. We had a hurricane lantern like that at home to use in those situations, and a candle with a ligher in every room so we would be ready for a blackout whenever it happened. This only changed in the early 2000s. We also didn't have a very stable water suply, but that is still true to this day.
We used these at boyscouts, no matter where we were they always worked as long as the wick is maintained. And those things last long. But they live up to their name, come rain or wind or more these things would keep going at it. Never appreciated the design that much until this video. We also used them safely in the larger tents (cooking tent and such) we had. Incredible reliable piece of technology.
This lamp does bring back memories. I had one of these in my house when I was a kid.We called it 'fanal'. It sat unused in a corner of the kitchen. I cleaned it up , stuck a light bulb inside and used it as decorative lighting. During my grandma's time people used these to walk about at night, for example going to work in the fields early in the morning.
I spent many years in a cabin in Canada. We used Coleman lanterns, which blew vaporized gas into a mantle that glowed white hot when they were ignited.. We had to pump them periodically to maintain the gas pressure to the mantles. They worked great, but the mantles were fragile and the lanterns hissed with the pressure when they were lit. Our best source of light was an Aladdin lamp that used a circular wick drawing fuel from the reservior below into the combustion chamber. The flame illuminated a mantle, much in the manner of the Coleman lantern. Great light and no noise. You had to keep the wick trimmed completely evenly all around, or you’d get carbon buildup on one side of the chimney. You also had to be careful, because the exhaust from the chimney was hot enough to light a cigar..
You got straight in with a fascinating fact. I've known how candles work for 50 years but what I didn't know was how recent the curling wick was. I just assumed (without even thinking about it) that it occurred naturally. Jolly interesting.
@@aerosoapbreeze264 Me: Searching for a good malaphor to respond with while feeling like death on hot bricks. Okay, I don't quite feel like death warmed up or a cat on hot bricks, but I'm more than half-way there. Not sure if I made a malaphor there.
I can't say if it's my favorite, since there are many excellent malaphors to choose from, and my mind does not function in a manner that lets me iterate through the list to evaluate them. But it certainly is among the many excellent malaphors I've heard and maybe used.
@@WeebsLifeBalance There is also literally a product called Dietz nuts, they are meat nuts, they are nuts but made out of meat, Dietz nuts. They are delicious, they are Dietz nuts.
My sister drank kerosene when she was a child (thought is was Kool-aid). Her stomach had to be pumped. Also, "I kept reading on and found... typos" got a chuckle out of me, as well as calling Wikipedia, "this website I found."
"Her stomach had to be pumped" Her stomach didn't need pumping. That's just a lie the Medical-industrial complex told you so they could rob your family or the government of money, depending on where in the world you live. A lot of people get a daily dose of kerosene from carrot intake. Did you know that the original name of kerosene was carrotsene.
@@Varangian_af_Scaniae I think you got that name from a children's cartoon called Invention Story, where a rabbit finds a way to turn carrots into fuel called "carrotsene" Carrots don't naturally contain kerosene. Sometimes kerosene is used to kill weeds.
Alec's videos are always enlightening. He's been on a real hot streak recently; all the puns in this video were on fire. No other TH-camr can hold a candle to Technology Connections.
This is absolutely fascinating to me. I can remember my Dad's lantern as he walked home in the summer as he would spend the night at a tobacco barn curing bright leaf tobacco. No flashlight just his lantern. Memories from the late 1940s. No electricity until I was 3 yrs old. I still have 2 lamps and one of his lanterns. Thank you.
Im sorry but odd question, do you remember anything about ww2? You would still be really young even by its end in 45 but maybe you remember your father talking about it or is there anything else you can tell me of that time? Even the after effects of the war are extremely interesting.
@@nthgth Bic lighters also are pretty cool. A cylinder of compressed flammable gas and a valve controlled burner and ignition system (same ignition system as a Zippo) that can be bought for less than $3 and lasts months is a cool bit of engineering!
@@jamesslick4790 Know what, you're right! I was being judgmental there. They're also pretty cool when you look at how they work. The Bic way is sort of like a miniaturized barbecue, and that's awesome
@@nthgth Yep, LOL. I've been smoking for 41 years (If you don't smoke, don't start, Lighters CAN be used for other uses!.Like Fireworks! LOL.) I am a Zippo collector, (as well as a Pennsylvanian!) But I gotta say "BIC" is really an underrated outfit. How the heck can they make all those pens, lighters and razors SO GOOD, and yet SO cheap ?!? I use Nothing but Bic razors BTW, (Screw Gillette!) But yeah a Bic lighter is a "gas grill" in the same way as a Zippo is an oil lamp! Good analogy! 👍😊👍
I still own, use and maintain a bunch of these things. Floridian here, I fill them with citronella kerosene when having outdoor gatherings. And use them for lighting during hurricane season. I do have battery lanterns, these are just a lot more reliable. And rain resistant, I might add.
Yeah, it was thought to be present in things that could burn (organic matter) and absent from things that didn't (rocks). The process of burning moved the phlogiston from the burning thing to the atmosphere and if the space was enclosed the phlogiston would fill the space up, and combustion would no longer be possible. Quite a clever theory, when you think about it. (Chlorine was originally called "dephlogisticated muriatic acid air": dephlogisticated = heated (phlogiston thought to have been removed) / muriatic acid = hydrochloric acid / air = vapour.)
@@bordershader Neat, I use muriatic acid a lot at work for regenerating resin bed filters but never really know anything about the chemical itself other than its use.
The warm air intake evaporates the fuel better, per my 70's automotive training. Exhaust gas recirculation systems in cars heat the incoming air to about 100f to better utilize the atomized fuel particles. So, even where the air expansion factor inside a piston is most important, warmer intake air can utilize the expansion of the fuel combustion to it's advantage. I subscribed at Dietz Nutz.
I think that has changed, EGR was about decreasing combustion temps by decreasing the amount of combustion taking place. Nowadays we've got some fancypants EGR coolers, after most cars lost EGR entirely, because they do not want the intake temps to be hot. That's basically counter intuitive to decreasing nox, which is why they recirc in the first place. Most cars have a much, much tighter control over ignition timing and fuel flow though, so they "push the limit" a whole lot harder than things in the 70's. Running high intake temps would make that impossible, so they cool the recirculation gases. No more air pumps is a bonus, though!
Cold air has greater oxygen density, in car engines the limiting factor for power is how much mass of O2 per second you can supply, hence turbo chargers etc. cold air delivers more mass of O2 for a given volume, so would allow you to burn more fuel / second giving greater power in cars or greater illumination in lamps. If fuel economy if the overriding goal, then the hot system will be better, as the presenter said, not only recirulating partially combusted fuel, but also less O2 to slow the rate of combustion.
Jet airplane mechanic here. Same thing applies. Though the engine's hot oil is sent through an exchange grate. Through the other side of which flows the cold fuel, heating it up as it shares the same fins as the hot oil. Cooling the oil, and heating the fuel. Same result (:
Id, agree, from a stand point of theoretical mechanics. An oil lamp doesn’t rely on differences in pressure like an engine does. And that again relies on differences in gas temperature. An engine can have an advantage of sucking in more mole/grams of air at low pressure when the air is cold, something that an oil lamp has no need for. While the combustion temperature of an oil lamp is probably well below ideal, and a warm air intake can raise that temperature some. The hot blast lantern is quite extreme at that, however, and the only reason it burns cleaner is that it recycles its exhaust as well, giving it a second (and third) chance to burn. You’ll need quite a lot air circulation to make that burn well, and then it defeats its purpose of heating the air.
My Mom bought 1982 Escort new. It had the heated air intake snorkel to the carb. and was jetted so lean wouldn't run without it. Had to get new vacuum motor to replace one that stopped working.
Nothing is dead about it. Just because cringy kids stopped using it after a week of spouting it like maniacs doesn't mean it's dead. As long as it's generally known of, it's not dead.
Pre-heated combustion air INCREASES the rate of fuel combustion by increasing the liquid Kerosene's vaporization from the wick. With cold air you would instead require a longer wick to compensate, which as you already described burns away the wick a lot faster. EDIT: Apparently TheSupremeOne also suggested additional advantages. Less Fuel and Air-mass is necessary to upkeep the Flame's temperature if the hot air exhaust(up to 1250 Kelvin) is reintroduced into the combustion reaction. Overall the whole lantern becomes more powerful. I don't know which one of these advantages is the greatest, if someone could calculate this we would all be interested! Keep in mind these lanterns are designed for Outdoor use during storms etc; environmental air will be quite cold.
Beat me to that explanation, I actually wondered why he didn't grasp that during the presentation. It's a case of apples and oranges, not apples and apples like he was conflating.
expanding on your correct explanation of the benefits of this preheating. heat increases the vapor pressure of the fuel, allowing a larger proportion of gaseous fuel available for combustion. in car engines, instead of relying on the specific vapor pressure of the fuel, the carburetor or fuel injectors atomize the fuel when mixing it with the cold air from the intake.
Maybe he was also intended to include a catalytic converter. (they need to heat up fast to work properly) It seem a nice function to have had considering the exhausts. ;) This thought lead me to the "Döbereiner's lamp" by the way. Which got nothing to do with particle filtering, but it was an interesting design all the same.
In regard to the comparison of the 'cold air intake' in cars, internal combustion engines want more expansion to drive the piston, colder air can expand more than warmer air and thus produce more power. The additional power comes at the expense of lower fuel efficiency and more incompletely combusted fuel since the reaction is colder. TL;DR hot air is better for more combustion, cold air is better for more expansion
We used these lanterns when the power went out due to winter storms blowing the lines down. Took the power company a few days to repair. So, for about 3 days, we used these and gas stove for light and warmth. :)
I grew up in a "developing" nation in the late 80s early 90s. These lanterns were a staple in every house. Blackouts were as common as pissed off soccer moms at Starbucks so we all had em. In fact, they were used as marker lights on rickshaws. Read that again. When you lit them it took me way back. I love the way they look. Thanks to you I know what brand to get. I was really young back then and I swear we used knock offs that may or may not have killed us at some point.
I grew up in the _very_ modernized Norway at the same time as you. We too had these lamps. Most households had one around. As a scout, I still use these very useful things when camping.
As a kid in a mosquito environment, some homes people would put them around the front porch where people sat in the evening and ot helped keep mosquitoes away..
I live in a developing nation, it's part of the United States. It's called "Jackson County Kentucky" and large parts of the county is rural, I have coal oil/kerosene heaters in several parts of my home, and coal oil/kerosene lanterns in every room and hurricane lanterns outside. I do have a small backup generator enough to handle the refrigerator/freezer and other luxury items.. But for lighting I rely on coal oil/kerosene they are dependable do a great job and relatively safe "I also have fire extinguishers in several parts of the house, along with smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors. " And I also use A deep cycle marine battery with a 12 V trickle charger on it that I picked up for a couple of coins at a thrift store. And a old EPS unit the sealed 12 battery in it had gone bad so it modified that along with my deep cycle marine battery and That supplies plenty of light for my kitchen and living room, enough to read a book comfortably with and it comes on automatically if the electricity is disrupted. And I can live relatively comfortable and safely for at least 30 days I think it's funny because my friends in the city struggle to find ways of charging their cell phones and scramble for batteries for their flashlights. While us rural dwellers we are used to it so we'll usually grab a book or something to entertain myself if the Internet goes down and it's happened more than a few times. :-) during the winter months it's not unusual for us to go several times a month for days on end without electricity/water/transportation.. And we've had times where the electricity has been out for a week and on several occasions over a month! But that's the price you pay when you live up in the mountains surrounded by trees in nature.
We had the dead flame lanterns when I was growing up in case power went out during storms. It definitely saved us when our city got hit with a blizzard for a week and the grid went down. The lanterns provided both light and a bit of warmth. It was a really poignant moment in my life, and to this day, my dad still has these lamps. Have a follow. The way you spoke was relaxing and informative. I also love the bloopers.
Rural Sweden, Finland etc yes, we still have these (fueled, ventilated outside even though electric lights too but this is backup, warmth to one room during blizzard etc so no breaking of water pipes etc). Also, cow's getting calf they call/fetch human help most often 3-4am, and if power is out this is bright enough, fast and yes, test it, brighter than electric lamps and simpler than flame-incandescent ones for emergencies and speed).
@@snoodles3013My Grandma moved to Stockton during the 1930s from Oklahoma, she always made sure to have a handful of these around just in case. We used them every winter.
It’s after midnight, I’m totally sober, I do not own any lanterns and have honestly never thought of lanterns in any way, yet I sat enthralled watching this entire video. Well done, sir.
I own tons of lanterns and more than a couple of kerosene heaters. I live in a very rural part of Kentucky up on a mountaintop and it's amazing that I even have electricity let alone Internet. The people in my area rely on a co-op for our electricity so it's pretty much a monopoly and electricity is high. Even with energy-efficient heat pumps are electric bills can easily run $250 $300 a month, and that's when the electricity is on! It's not uncommon for us to go without electricity for at least 24 hours and there's been several occasions that it has lasted a week and on a couple of occasions a month. So We rely on kerosene heaters and wood-burning stoves for heat. And kerosene lanterns/hurricane lamps/Aladdin lamps as a backup for lighting and also helps with a little bit of heat. I have probably 10 or 12 kerosene lanterns and just recently installed a kerosene wall lantern next to a reproduction wired wall phone "we also don't get self-service in this area" I recommend everyone should own a couple of kerosene heaters and at least 3 or 4 kerosene lanterns. I have a backup generator countless flashlights and flashlights and generators can fail, and batteries can go bad. But my kerosene fueled equipment is rotated regularly and I've had kerosene and several of my lanterns that is over 10 years old and although it does expire the 10-year-old kerosene lanterns I have hanging to function although not as efficiently when the kerosene was fresh. But in an emergency it would work. I've tried all other types of lighting and heating equipment like propane and gas stoves and they all have their purposes. But for the most part you can't be kerosene for dependable heating and lighting. PS but it doesn't hurt to pick up some LED Christmas lighting after the holidays, that comes in handily as temporary lighting while you're looking for your lighters and matches :-) in conjunction with emergency exit backup lighting that comes on automatically when the electricity goes out it lights my entire home even if I'm not home at the time for 2 and half hours.
I LOVED the opening for this video, the soft glow of the candle, how on ignition it lit up enough to see you and then grow dark and dim, guiding the eyes to the single point of the candle and slowly it growing brighter and you coming back into view from the increasing light. Such a cool shot
Hello! I want to add some _nuance_ to the discussion because of course there's plenty. Kerosene isn't the only fuel that these lanterns are capable of burning, and some options that are available now are less unpleasant for indoor use. And as a matter of fact, one of the things these are still useful for is emergency heat since they're putting out quite a lot. However, *not every fuel is safe to use in them* so my official advice is don't use these lanterns indoors at all. The room I film in is quite poorly ventilated without the HVAC system running so it was a pretty non-ideal situation, but the room smelled like an airport and my throat was getting irritated. It's unpleasant and makes me feel terrible for the millions of people who still rely on kerosene for their lighting fuel.
(also, to be clear, kerosene by itself isn't the problem - kerosene heaters are widely available, but modern designs can burn the fuel much more completely for a safer and much less unpleasant exhaust. These lanterns literally haven't changed since the 19th century)
You might consider outside filming an option in such cases again in the future, just as you did film some stuff outside in the times back before your studio. Stay safe and ideally please don't suffocate yourself for your videos.
Your first Dietz lamp also produce carbon monoxide since it burns air with a lowered amount of O2.
Thanks for doing a hurricane lamp video, I always take a few of these with me camping.
You are legitimately a fantastic writer and producer. Your subtle jokes and memes are so great
So what I'm hearing is, buy one of these and get the indoor fuel too so I can have a neat shiny
His voice, his tone, his tempo, his pauses, his timing, his composure, his usage of physical gestures... The guy's speech skill is near impeccable.
he has talent, and has had a lot of practice!
@@kitsunekaze93 indeed! That kind of execution does not come without a price. 😁
@@kitsunekaze93 And a prompter mirror!
Speech 100, agreed :)
And that's before we get into structure, writing, humor and wit!
Some people always assert that "the pun is the lowest form of wit". I think that's needlessly reductionist and generally pretentious: These videos are a great example of how puns can really elevate a talk.
I love the humor in these videos 🖤
@@black_platypus and i love your comment. 👍🏼
The deadpan “Dietz Nuts” joke had me pausing to 😂 😆 🤣
Currently waiting for my eyes to dry to resume.
I thought the same thing too!
I literally spat out some of my drink like I was in some sitcom.
Deitz Nuts are ON FIRE!
Just here to make sure this was acknowledged ✊
“My lamp runs on jet fuel” sounds a lot cooler than it actually is.
Unfortunately "my jet plane runs on lamp oil" sounds just as lame as it actually is.
I'd imagine it's actually a fair bit warmer
Is this kerosene actually that close to the Jet A-1 variant modern jet engines burn? I now jet fuel is actually quite close to Diesel Oil.
To add to the confusion, what is used in lamps is called "Lampenöl" (lamp oil) or Petroleum in German. Jet fuel is "Kerosin", "Paraffin" is the waxy stuff candles are made from.
Sounds hot tho
@@alexanderkupke920 Jet A1 is kerosene that has been dewaxed, removing all the longer chain molecules, so that it will not turn to slush at -40C in the aircraft fuel tanks. The wax that is removed is further classified by melting point, so you get soft waxes that melt around 40C or lower, often sold as Vaseline or petroleum jelly, and harder waxes that melt around 70C, which are used to make candles, and as a base for many cosmetics and shoe polish. Higher melting point waxes are also used in industrial applications for various things.
Diesel oil is very close to paraffin or kerosene, just has a somewhat less and slightly different range of melting and boiling points and density. To further confuse things you also have Rocket kerosene, which is a very highly refined Jet A1, that is designed not to freeze till around -100C, and which also has even less wax in it.
In general you can run the diesel vehicle on kerosene, but it will run poorly, as diesel has additives in it to lubricate the fuel system, which is needed, plus the wax will tend to clog fuel lines and injectors as it flows through and undergoes local cooling. Same for a jet engine, which will run on diesel, though it will smoke heavily, as the fuel is not being fully burnt before it leaves the combustion chamber.
Run a modern GDI engine on kerosene and it will very quickly fail, but older mechanical injection engines do not care, and will run on diesel, kerosene, Jet A1 or even vegetable oil, provided you can get it liquid enough to flow through the pump.
Lamp oil can be also a blend, with it consisting of a mix of kerosene, diesel and even lighter oils and benzene to make it light easier, and also can have aromatic oils added to it to have an odour other than the distinct one.
Heya, have really enjoyed this series. I'm a Chemical engineer and specifically work with combustion processes. For heat output, we actually care quite a bit about preheating combustion air with waste heat because it improves fuel efficiency as you're using less of the energy from combustion to get the air to the flame temperature. Realistically, for light output it probably doesn't make a meaningful difference to the fuel consumption. I'd hazard it was more likely that they Dietz was probably trying to look at air preheat for flame stability, as combustion tends to be better behaved & more stable when heat is already present.
I reasoned this and was going to post something about maybe the cold blast design was preheating the combustion air to help the fuel on the wick reach it's flash point and burn it more efficiently.
Thank you! This is a niche thing, but I'm glad you said it. Thermodynamics is a cruel mistress, and one we must all follow.
I’m so glad you told him.
Thanks for posting this, it means I didn't have to lol. Warm air also helps the unburned fuel atomize more completely for more efficient combustion.
Combustion engines operate on a volume difference of cold and heated gas. Fuel is used to rapidly heat up gas inside a cilinder, so maybe colder air means more expansion and beter power output of an engine? I'm not a mechanical engeneer, so I'm guessing here so...
"I've always had a fascination for these"
The entire basis of this channel and it's fantastic lol
we share the fascination for everything!
I like how most things on here I don't have a fascination for, but I do once I see the videos.
just great stuff everytime
For these nuts? :D
Alec has a fascination for these, and now you will, too!
How am i just now learning i didn’t actually know how a freakin candle worked. Knew about the wax fuel but not the curling part.
I didn't expect to find you of all people here, but yeah I'm in exactly the same situation 😅 .
Too busy on the troll game
just a common thing that we take for granted... i.e, just so common you never thought about it. 🤷♂️
I didn't know the wax was the fuel, myself..
I, too, was surprised to learn that wicks needed to curl in order for candles to work properly. I always assumed that that's how it always worked. It never occurred to me that the wicks needed to be exposed to oxygen rich air to properly burn away (though, this does make perfect sense).
I've never been so adequately humbled by a high end Deez Nuts joke
It rustled up a hearty guffaw from me, that's for sure.
Snuck a little "bofa dietz" in there too
I wonder how many takes it took to do that with a straight face
@@Techy2493 Judging by the outtakes, a lot! I'm glad to see he was laughing at that one as much as I was.
Oh man I was having such a sad day, now I'm crying laughing feeling much better.
I wish I could up vote twice. One for the Dietz Nuts joke. One for Baja Blast lamp
This isn’t Reddit
@@calebnieves4744up vote is general internet terminology. Kinda how likes has become. Even if platforms call them different things(like hearts or whatever).
Speaking of confusing names for hydrocarbons, in my language (Czech), Kerosene is known as "Petrolej", which sounds similar to Petroleum (i.e. crude oil), and Petrol, which in America is called Gasoline, often shortened to Gas, though it isn't actually gas but liquid, and we call that "Benzín", which is pronounced exactly like Benzene, but that's a different chemical substance, which we call just "Benzen". It's not to be confused with Benzine, which is another name for Petroleum Ether, which isn't really an Ether, because actual Ethers are hydrocarbon derivates, whilst Petroleum Ether is a petroleum fraction with a low boiling point, which is the real reason why it's called Ether - it's on a basis of similar physical property, rather than chemical similarity.
In German, where Gasoline is called "Benzin", Benzene is known as "Benzol", but in Czech "Benzol" actually means BTX, which is a mixture of Benzene, Toluene and Xylene. Regular Kerosene, like the one used in lamps is called "Petroleum" or "Petrol" in German, but aviation Kerosene, i.e. jet fuel, in German is "Kerosin".
In Czech, we also call diesel fuel "Nafta", which sounds like Naphtha, but isn't the same thing, Naphtha is actually a name sometimes used for White Gas, which isn't gas but liquid, isn't white but clear, and can mean three different things (see wikipedia), but most common one is a fluid used in camp stoves, lanterns or lighters or as a solvent. Closest thing to Naphtha we have in our language is "Technický benzín" (literally 'technical gasoline'), but don't confuse it with normal gasoline, because if you put it in a gasoline engine, it's not going to like it.
Naphtha, or White gas, also shouldn't be confused with White Spirit, a.k.a mineral turpentine which, surprise surprise, isn't really white or spirit, and is definitely not a turpentine (a distilled tree resin). We call it "Lakový Benzín" (literally 'varnish gasoline'), except it's not really a gasoline either. It's more like a paint thinner. If you want to know what we call paint thinner in Czech, it's "Ředidlo", which literally means "dilutant". Mind you, there are many different types of "Ředidlo" which I'm not going to list here...
Interestingly, in Poland (which is right next door from us), Kerosene is called "Nafta", and diesel fuel (remember that is what us Czechs call "Nafta"), is known as "Olej napędowy" (literally "driving oil"), or colloquially "Ropa", which in Czech actually means crude oil, but is sometimes used as a derogatory name for diesel fuel. Crude oil in Polish is "Ropa Naftowa". In case it wasn't confusing enough already...
Edit: i've had to make some corrections here and there because the nomenclature across languages is such god awful mess, I got lost in it myself. But at least we can make fun of it :D. Thank you for all the likes and replies.
This was beautiful and infuriating to read. Thank you.
Great. Now my head hurts in 4 languages!
Alec should use this in a future script. Very fitting for the channel :-D
God dammit Europe!
Just more proof that this channel has TH-cam's best commenters!
I am 76 years old, live on an island 140 kilometres off the north coast of British Columbia and frequently rely on lanterns which, up until now, i have done so in total ignorance. Thank you for this illuminating presentation.
Hey old man, get yourself a solar panel and some LED lamps and do your part, air travel is already too expensive. Or can I interest you in killing some of those pesky whales off your island shores and rendering some of that sweet sweet blubber
I see what you did right there
Me too
This right here is exactly why I love youtube.
What most impressive is that you can get an internet connection in a relatively remote location.
Speaking as someone who did industrial combustion for many years, pre-heating combustion air is actually something that is done because it increases the efficiency as well and allows for higher temperatures to be achieved. The reason being is that you don't have to heat the incoming air to the temperature you need which actually wastes heat energy. The reason you want a cold air intake into your car engine however is for the higher density that colder air contains which naturally also means more oxygen because your not trying to heat the engine. If your interested in learning more about pre-heating in combustion systems the term your want to look up is "regenerative combustion burner" as they can explain it much better than I can.
I would add that engine analogy doesn't seem to really apply. As far as I can remember combustion engines use, at least in part, gas temperature (and thereby pressure) difference to generate torque. Cool running engine is more efficient. A lamp kept cooler isn't as it doesn't cycle.
I have a sneaking suspicion this was just throw away joke made before a real point. The comment is written, so I might just post it anyway.😅
As I long-windedly explain in my public comment, cold air intakes only became popular with multi port EFI engines. Prior to that, carbureted engines needed heated intake air in order to atomize fuel well enough to meet emissions standards.
@@AntiCookieMonster to the best of my knowledge, the pressure change due to temp only matters in regard to how much oxygen is actually in the cylinder, and thus how much fuel can be combusted. Conveniently, EFI engines pump fuel into the cylinders based on the manifold air pressure (or i'm pretty sure they do), which means that the higher pressure of colder air will also result in higher fuel pumped into the cylinders, and since that denser air does have enough oxygen to combust that extra fuel, you get more power.
Lol I just commented theorizing the same thing lol guess I should have scrolled a little further down and seen someone who actually knew confirming my theory
There is still confusion here. I started repairing cars and other vehicles in the 1960s and stopped in 2018 as a professional. After gasoline engines are at operating temperature, many stopped heating the air fuel mixture, This was before and after emission controls were added. Heating was done for fuel economy more than emission concerns. atomization may have improved, but if the air fuel ratio was around 14.7 to 1, the compression cycle added plenty of heat and turbulence to atomize for proper combustion. The factories were pressured to have clean exhaust and get good economy at the same time. They would lean mixtures as far as possible, the engines produce low power and often Hydrocarbons increased if everything wasn't perfect. Warmer intake temps caused higher oxides of nitrogen to be produced, which was a controlled emission gas. They added EGR systems that put exhaust into the fuel air mixture, not to heat it, but to add an inert substance that cooled combustion temps to lower the oxides of nitrogen. things got back on track when computers started controlling nearly everything and actually enriched the fuel air ratio so the catalytic converters could get hot enough to clean the exhaust. Best horsepower occurs with cool air and fuel. Of course if you look into Smokey Yunick's expander cycle engine, than all of the above means nothing. Maybe it's a hoax?
15:17 "we call ourselves Dietz nuts."
the bofa deez right after makes it better.
Who the hell is Steve Jobs
"we call ourselves Dietz nuts"
You, sir. Are this decades most important comedian.
I thank you for your continued service.
Since this might be a national US American thing (me being German), I would appreciate if somebody put me into the picture of "Dietz Nuts". =)
@@marcfuchs6938 It seems that it's because it sounds like "Deez nuts", which is - apparently - an American slang term for testicles.
@@marcfuchs6938 Web search for "Deez nuts"... Urban dictionary has an explanation...
Also, you are not the first German to be in the dark about "nuts" (admittedly, a different usage)... taskandpurpose.com/history/us-army-nuts-bastogne-surrender/
And right after he says "bofa deez lanterns".
Exactly the type of content I subscribed for.
Another lantern use: My dad was born in the Mojave Desert in 1916. If someone had to go outside at night, one lamp was sufficient for light, but they would carry two. One near each ankle. Rattle snakes would strike at warm temperatures, so they would strike the lanterns instead of people's legs.
Also I guess bonus points for not having cold feet
feels to me like that would work about as well as bug zappers.. you're still attracting them to the general area, and giving the snakes way too much credit vis-a-vis aim. Surely it's easier to just armor your ankles.
@@KairuHakubi A rattle snake has to hit a running mouse. I think their aim is dead and true.
@@KairuHakubi It's not really so much attracting them though, just directing their strike. It's not like the rattlesnake would notice a person and move towards the heat in order to hunt, but more that IF the person stumbled across the snake, as is likely to happen at times, it provided a better place for them to strike than bare, or near-bare, skin.
@@keithlarsen7557 okay but you will agree that the skills involved in chasing a furry gumball hopping along at a few inches per second are VERY different from the skills involved in striking at what amounts to two moving trees.
Regarding pre-heating the incoming air: every coal fired power plant I ever worked in ran intake air through a pre-heat section before adding it to the fuel to improve combustion. In automobiles, using cold intake air is an attempt to add a few more molecules of oxygen to the mix in the combustion chamber before compression begins. A coal fired furnace, like a kerosene lamp, has no compression cycle. and hotter intake air improves the combustion in that case.
The exhaust of hot air is a type of pollution. Cool the exhaust by giving the heat to the fuel so that you pollute less.
Also, even if the chemical reactions of kerosene oxidation are not reversible, are not in equilibrium with the reverse chemical reactions, the raise in temperature still grants an increase of the forward reaction rate.
Yep, in compression engines, you want cold air so when it is heated, it expands more! More horse power!
You’ll find the same preheating in your gas furnace to increase combustion efficiency (or oil boiler; but I know the Elmhurst area is almost all natural gas & forced hot air era homes). The closer you can get the incoming air to the auto ignition temperature of the fuel the more efficient the combustion…technically preheating the air above that would be better but inherently more dangerous for run away combustion incidents. A lot of systems also try to add some minor level of compression too push the limits of efficiency but this will never be as critical as a combustion engine because of the open nature of standard furnaces (sealed blast combustion furnaces are another matter).
@@liennen5868 You are not "polluting" less in this scenario. You are simply keeping heat in the system for slightly longer. Additionally someone using a kerosene lantern may not consider its release of heat to be a pollutant at all.
I would think preheating the air would help in winter and cold climates.
Who else restarted the video several times because they thought the screen was blank due to an error
goes to show how broken youtube is, now
I'm still wondering if the pun about the wales beeing "de-lighted" was intended.
oceans over was definitely a play, do you think he was going for a double in a single breath.
Great video. As an engineer I would like to add my two cents. The thought that cold air is used for more power in engines is not relevant here. Cold air is denser so it allows more air (oxygen) to be put into the cylinder for more power output. Hot air in a lantern results in a higher flame temperature and thus more light from the incandescent soot particles. But the air must not be mixed with exhaust gas. That lowers the oxygen content and flame temperature like exhaust gas recirculation ( EGR) in an engine.
Another safety feature of hurricane lamps compared to the glass chimney type is lower exhaust temperature. You can light a cigarette over the glass chimney (or curtains or an upper shelf). This allows the hurricane lamp to be carried hanging from a handle, without burning your hand. To light a cigarette with a hurricane lamp you have to lift the glass and use the flame.
I can definitely confirm that the air direcly above a glas chimney type kerosene lamp is hot enough to give a small child in the 80s who has just learned about shadow hand puppets first-degree burns without making any contact with the lamp itself.
Also you can cook a marshmallow but it will taste like kerosene.
I somehow have the idea that in cars hot exhaust air is used to preheat the air intake. Also my oven preheats air by passing the air that is taken behind and above the burn chamber, this allows for better and cleaner burning of the wood & gases (oven is surrounding air independant, as we have a controlled ventilation system in the house, the air gets taken in from the chimney at the top of the roof, travels down and around the chamer as explained). So I figured it does make sense to preheat the air for this lantern type aswell.
@@moos5221 cars used to do this in the early 80’s, yes. Carburetor models used this to keep the air volume more consistent and to warm up the air in cold climates. I imagine fuel reacted differently being injected into freezing air drawn into an intake than being injected directly into the chamber. However, fuel injection eliminated all that. Then the focus went into increasing the amount of O2 in the chamber, hence why cold dense air was preferable for a naturally aspirated engines.
@@adamrouse16 ah, i see. thanks =)
No chit on lifting the glass...omg. Please! Stop ingesting fluoride. Hahahahahaha...omg. People are becoming dumber as time goes on.
These lamps were the only source light even 15 years back in my village when electric supply wasn't available. The first electric lines arrived 15 years ago but electricity supply was rather erratic so these lanterns (called lal-ten in the local dialect) were fairly common for a long time after that (still are common?). These days, electricity supply is more reliable and there are LED bulbs with built in batteries so these lamps are being used less and less.
@Cosmo Genesis Electricity isn't very reliable in india, though it is getting better. Such bulbs are easily available here from reputed manufacturers. Here is one such example.
WIPRO 9 W Standard B22 Inverter Bulb
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And you got internet.
@@aliceeliot6389 yes...from laltern in my childhoold to gigabit fibre optic now...
@@aliceeliot6389 I don't live in the said village. Neither did I live there as a child. My father served in the Indian military and I lived across India in various military campuses. My grandparents lived in the village though and every year, we used to spend about a month in the village during the school summer breaks. I have very fond memories of my time in the village, specially since my parents didn't dare discipline me and my sisters in front of our grandparents.
And yes, there is cellular internet in the village now. It's 4G LTE with decent speed but nothing extraordinary. There used to be landline telephone in the village. I don't know if broadband was/is available.
Man I have wanted to go to India my entire life to see what is happening.
One of the most influential talks I had with my great grand mother. She saw wagon trains going west on the plains. She did with seeing the internet becoming a thing. The change the entire world is going through. It is mind boggling.
The area where I am at in the US we get power outages. So i keep back ups of everything. Going to other places in the world. As a US citizen get irrationally angry at people around me.
It would be nice to mention about Ignacy Łukasiewicz, Polish inventor that was first in the world to built modern oil refinery in 1956. His achievements included the discovery of how to distill kerosene from seep crude oil, the invention of the modern kerosene lamp (1853), the introduction of the first modern street lamp in Europe (1853), and the construction of the world's first modern oil well (1854).
This guy is MAGA so he doesn't do Poland. But thanks for this.
@peterc4082 is he? Aww balls.
"Allow me to fill you in on the Dietz" - that's the one that got me
Dietz nuts was a GOTEM to everyone watching lol
Thank you! I missed that one!
Holy crap, you mentioned the mushroom shape of non-auto-trimming candle wicks, and that brought back memories from when I made candles as a kid with cotton string!
Same.
no wonder my candles always burned so badly, always thought i made the wick too big or something
oh shit, I did too..... llitters of molten wax....
I think that mushroom comes from the stiffening wire inside the wick?
Experience from living in extremely rural Papua New Guinea in 2017-18. Improvements in batteries, LEDs and solar panels has pretty much eliminated kerosene lamps in the last few decades. People in my village grew up using kerosene lamps but the only one I ever saw was retrofitted with and LED bulb and just used for aesthetics. Everyone that saw it offered to help the owner set it up correctly because the LED was far dimmer than the original kerosene.
It's only a win when it doesn't affect you or the people around you.
That “Dietz nuts” joke hit me like a freight train
Listen for the "Bofa Deez" directly after as well XD
Time stamp?
@@GabrielsLogic 15:13
I had to stop the video to laugh it out
I facepalmed at it, but the bofadeez got me to laugh.
“Except I kept reading, and I found… typos…”
I fucking love this guy.
IKR!
This episode has everything i love about this channel
Yeah.. Mental note to self: "Should really refrain from drinking liquids while watching TC"
Yeah, he is gold!
There's got to be someone out there who feels the opposite way.
"We call ourselves Dietz Nuts"
that hit me like a fucking truck
lmao same
*Dietz
That strangely rhymes,
Following up with bofa Deez lanterns was pure genius goo
For real. I snorted loudly and my kids looked at me funny.
I have two of these lanterns. One is intended more for decoration but is still functional, the other is less decorative, more sturdy in construction, and in general more practical. I have them because I have a liking for archaic lighting, among other archaic things.
Here's my take on the cold air intake:
The "hot blast" furnace was created 1828, preheating the air increases the combustion temperature and thus the efficiency.
So why not in cars? In a car the desired output is not heat but mechanical work.
To maximize the work done you need to control your ignition timing very precisely, if your combustion temperature gets over a certain threshold you start losing that control, what follows is knock, preignition and ultimately engine damage, at least in a gasoline engine. (NOX emissions in a diesel)
By cooling the intake air you can literally cram in more oxygen molecules into the combustion chamber.
In WW2 they played around with water/methanol injection in their aircraft engines to cool the mixture and prevent knock to advance timing, and therefore make more power.
Engines ultimately generate power from the expansion of the air, so the cold air also improves the efficiency of the cycle (better "cold side" of the heat engine). And the steam generated by water injection is also a benefit - there were even some attempts at six-stroke engines that alternate a four-stroke cycle with a steam-powered stroke that generates some power and cools the engine from the inside.
Burners want to burn as hot as possible to optimize combustion. I have one of those Biolite wood-burning stoves and you can really tell when the preheating kicks in. There is a good reason blast furnaces also use heat exchangers. So yeah, the preheating in the lamp is a reasonable idea, although I'd probably try a different approach. Also, you can't overdo it as it reduces the chimney effect, which is more important here.
My thought exactly
If that's the case, then pre-heating the air probably is helpful for these; as like incandescent lighting, the light they produce is from a physics perspective a byproduct of heat.
I was thinking the hot air should evaporate the kerosine quicker.
changing from liquid to vapor is a REALLY big potential energy loss.
I bet it burns more efficiently with hot air supply. less fuel per a specific lumen measure.
Water injection is still a thing in some modern high- end engines. BMW for example uses a Bosch developed water injection system in the M4 GTS.
28:52 The reason is likely to do with using these in very cold climates, kerosene >100 years ago wasn't formulated like it can be today and jells (freezes) at like -40c. This design would preheat the air and also the wick as well as the fuel tank allowing it to draw fuel even when its very cold.
Good point, I did wonder whether warming the air as it passed through the tubes might also smooth out any turbulence from ambient winds....
@@andrewdenby8239 It could also be inertia of engineering thinking. Preheating of air was a common idea that made steam engines much more efficient and to this day is used in better-designed woodburners. So he might have thought it was better for the lamps too. It takes time and other people's inputs to overcome the inertia and make the new inventions optimal. After all, first cars did look like horse carriages.
@@blg53 Yeah, my first thought was that preheated intake air made smelting furnaces far more efficient, maybe he was basing it on that. Of course, steam boilers and blast furnaces used heat exchangers to do that and didn't have the problem of mixing the exhaust with the intake air.
I concur. a similar design is used in old "smudgepots" that burn kerosene but also heavier fuels like diesel and motor oil. The heating can also have an added evaporative effect causing more fuel to burn and thus more heat/light.
Terribly dirty devices, used for heating orchards, but they can be great to watch.
Also, a recommended video title was "We put jet fuel in our diesel truck!" So ... you put diesel in your diesel truck.
so my dad used to live on a farm when he was a kid, and he lived in tornado alley, he always talked about a red Dietz lantern that somehow through a tornado that devastated the entire property, survived on its post, but also remained lit throughout. its broken now and doesnt work, but it sits on my grandfather's mantlepiece to this day. mind you, that lantern was old when my dad was a boy, and he was a boy in the early 60s.
How nice. They aren’t that hard to fix. Google a video. Also, can’t have been too old when your dad was a boy. They started painting them in the mid 1950s. Of course, it could’ve been hand painted by somebody.
Ive got one.
@@levislanterntime1926 true, but it broke back in the late 70s early 80s if i understand my grandfather's ramblings. though I should have added its been lost as of the last few years, grandfather got a bit old and senile and needed extra care so he went to an assisted living home, and that was 2ish years ago. nobody's seen it since really, so rip.
@@swapertxking These kinds of original farm equipment are quite popular for decoration so if there was any sort of estate sale or someone was paid to clear out the house, it would've been snapped up really quickly. Sorry it went missing.
@@ecoKady there wasn't, as far as im knowledgeable. maybe thats how it dissapeared.
1. Paraffin is a term in the US used for liquid paraffin (I believe a slightly lighter fraction than candle wax paraffin) which is a type of aliphatic oil lacking in aromatic compounds, thus having less odor. It is often formulated in odorless mineral spirits. It less volatile and has a higher flashpoint than kerosene. Many use it as an odorless alternative to kerosene. This makes it less suitable for larger wicks as the oil won’t evaporate until much of the wick is exposed in the flame, causing the wick to burn off.
2. Dietz wanted to have the hot air to help evaporate the fuel. Kerosene is not very volatile compared to other fuels, and is not even flammable (it is combustible like wood, but far safer than rubbing alcohol). It is a heavier fuel like diesel, I’ve spilled it on concrete and tried to burn it using a lighter but it wouldn’t ignite. It needs to be wicked and heated in order to better vaporize. By pre-heating the air you can increase the amount of fuel that can be burned thus increasing light for a small burner.
3. Many use these lamps not just for the light but for heat. They burn cleaner and cheaper than candles. The standard dead flame lamps put out approx 1600 BTU/hr so it can act as a space heater. The Dietz lanterns are popular because they are much safer and can be easily moved around while lit.
I forgot to mention that there’s Kerosene alternatives like Firefly Fuel which is completely odorless, non-toxic, and eco friendly or Kleen Heat which is odorless but performs just as well as kerosene.
Also his example with the car intake isnt a 1 to 1 since the car intake needs cold air since its basically a heat engine and so benefits in terms of effciency from the greater temperature difference produced from cold air intake. While retaining heat for the lamp is an advantage since useful output is the black body radiation from high temperature so retaining heat is an advantage
The common name varies by country: In the UK, "paraffin" (earlier "paraffin oil"), in the USA, more usually "kerosene". The official name in South Africa is "Illuminating Paraffin". In analytical chemistry, "paraffin" was the generic name for a series of hydrocarbon compounds - now called (I think) "ketones".
"I will NOT be interested in lamps I will NOT be interested in lamps"
A few moments later:
"Hm wonder how much a hurricane lamp is"
$27 taxed and shipped
@@ohyou_6599 price has been stable the last 30 years.
about $ 7.oo (or less) at walmart or harbor freight.
I have one as decoration in my room and I always loved the look of it... never knew how amazing they were... Thanks, Dietz Nuts!
Honestly they are pretty handy to have around when the power goes out.
I was wondering how he kept a straight face when delivering the puns about Dietz Nuts, and Bofa Dietz. Turns out he couldn’t!
You tell your jokes with such a straight face I nearly miss them every time. Dietz nuts caught me off guard
Thats how your supposed to tell jokes , so idiots dont get them , then the intelligent people have the pleasure of laughing at idiots
It took a lot of outtakes for him to do that tho. :P
Whale oil beef hooked!!
I lost it when he later said "bofa" Dietz lanterns.
Check out the goof takes at the end of the video, it took him many tries to achieve the straight face!
say "whale oil beef hooked..." congrats, now you speak irish
when i was a kid (10 years ago), we used these in our home (in india) for lightning as electricity was only available for 4 to 8 hours a day. I was facinated by these and now i know how they work. thank you.
लालटेन।
@@nishchaypallav Beta zara kirana ki dukan se lalten ka tel le aana
Nostalgic
@@shayan-gg hame free me milta tha ration me har month kerosine , from village in jharkhand 😄
"We call ourselves Dietz Nuts"
Well played.
Followed by Bofa deez lanterns freaking killed me dude
Pre-heating has some theoratical advantages.. Thermodynamically, you are using wasted heat in the exhaust to heat up air, so you would need less fuel to heat it up to the intended temperature. This completely constrasts car engines. In a sort-of oversimplification, otto cycle's power output depends on the difference between the heat input from combustion and heat rejection.. By having initial air colder (and denser), you can always put more fuel to a) use all oxygen completely in a stoichoimetric combustion or b) especially in direct injection cars, to reach intended combustion temperature. In either way, heat input will be greater.. So cold air (freezing winter compared to hot summer) makes the car consume noticably more fuel at WOT (wide open throttle) and also provide more power.
If we are talking about engines, pre-heating is actually pretty common for large stream engines like ones on ships. There is 1- air preheater, basically a heat exchanger to heat inlet air with flue gases and 2- an economizer, heats up water at a point after condenser (and usually feed pump) but before it reaches the boiler, with flue gases. Reasoning is the same as gas lamp; Superheating steam to a specific temperature is the main goal, this is done by heating up the air in the air/stream heat exchanger to appropirate temperature. Heating up the water and air beforehand with otherwise wasted heat in the chimney will reduce fuel consumption and increase overall efficiency.
Would it really matter for a gas lamp? Probably not. Improving combustion efficiency by, say, 5% will never make a noticable difference for any individual user.
One other advantage would be to aid vaporization of the fuel. It would be interesting to see if there is any difference between the 2 operating in at very cold temperatures. Say -20F or lower
I agree that the efficiency increase is probably too incremental to be a design feature of the 1800's. That said, if you are in a cold enough environment, the combustion might not become considerably less clean if you aren't per-heating your air. It would have to be pretty cold though, and it would easily be rectified by increasing the wick height to burn a little more kerosene.
Exhaust heat recuperation is also not uncommon in marine-based and land-based gas turbine engines. Modern gas turbine engines in warships tend to incorporate some form of heat recuperation, and is very common practice in power plants (though large power plants may make use of exhaust heat for other purposes, like using the hot exhaust gas to heat water which then power a separate steam turbine).
I agree with you though, probably makes negligible difference when it comes to a kerosene burning lamp.
Actually this doesn't contrast car engines either. Peak fuel efficiency is found with the hottest intake temperature before you run into problems with the combustion event (preignition) The power output is lowered but the efficiency rises. Some cars show a noticeable mpg difference in summer compared to winter even after brought up to operating temp with the same fuel blends. lower density air needs more throttle, less fuel and leads to slightly less pumping losses. Some older cars would draw intake air directly from the outside of the exhaust manifold to get this effect.
Black body radiation is given by Stefan-Boltzmann law and that's a fourth power of T. So 10% hotter is 50% more light
I truly can't think of anything i wouldn't enjoy learning from you. Thank you for the content and doing your part to bring us all a little closer together. Heavens knows, we need it more than ever.
I’m going to be honest with you, we’ve had Dietz lanterns in my house for as long as I can remember, yet I never actually wondered how they worked. Thank you for this.
I have gotten a lot of those cheap Walmart hurricane lamps I never had any problem with them. My dad used to have a bunch of antique and older lamps for camping. Including these in the video. But the problem is somebody broke into our shed and stole them all. Leaving the Walmart lanterns behind. They even took the old Coleman's.
incredible last name
Used them camping my whole life, great aunts and uncles had them too.
My dad explained it to me when I was a kid.
Ya know I wonder why you had them… dietz
@@chuck-echeese6706 dooont say it.. DOOOONT SAY IT!
I'm feeling very phlogisticated now.
@I care Ah yes, you again. Mine telling us which publishers of the Quran release books suited for use as a flame wicking substitute? Knowing this would also help me source paper to treat the Bible in equal regard, just so you don't think this is a dig at your faith _solely._
*Hello there, little boy.*
*I am the pyroman.*
*Do you like Phlogistinators?*
In that case you should see a phlogicist.
5:45 is literally the best François-Pierre-Amédée Argand impression I've ever seen.
@I care wtf ?
@@m_ouz4211 he's a spammer
@@m_ouz4211 right?
Ah, good ol' Francois-Pierre-Amedee Argand.
Appreciate the t shirt, grew up in the 70's over in the UK and reminds me of being poorly and off school watching kids TV on BBC 1 😀
That is some creepy ass shit there. From the land of Monty Python and Thomas the tank engine then, weird
@@THEscatterbrainedberserker 100% correct. And a Yorkshire man too 👍
Look for BBC test card on TH-cam the you will see the significance of the Tshirt
I’ve remodelled a couple of older homes. To recapture the look of the ceilings, we painted the ceiling with an oil paint, raise the kerosene lamp up to the wet paint and “swirl” the lamp, creating a smoky cloud-like look. It looked beautiful and retained its look. We always did have one person standing by with a hose in case something went amiss.
Luckily the place didn’t catch fire!
thats really cool! is there a name for that? it soumds like a cool way to keep the atmosphere inna home while still maintaining it.
Wouldn't that be an oil fire? In which case water would make it worse?
@@Deniz3n Probably "in case the lamp's heat caught some wood on fire"
The puns in this episode are absolutely perfect.
Wait, there were puns? I better watch again.
Agreed. The quality and consistency if puns was a very welcome surprise
He was on fire!
Wait until you see his other videos
Don't you mean absolutely deLIGHTful?
We still own one and usually comes in handy during power cuts. The science behind the air intakes is amazing, I thought they were just handles 😂
“Connect some technologies” - OMG HE SAID THE THING.
But anime always title drops before a finale....
😁 I hadn't noticed! Neato! :)
Roll credits?
Roll credits, indeed.
So thats why he calls it that
I had several of these along with a Coleman lantern (with a mantle that glowed) when I was living in Zaire (now DRC). We couldn't always get mantles. It was certainly hard to grade papers in the light from a storm lantern. Having a science background, it's strange that I used them for so long without really looking at them to see how they worked. Thank you for the video.
The smell of these takes me back to my childhood, my family used to use these when the power went out, which back then happened a lot in the winter. Good times, we would read books and play board games. I have many fond memories of lying around near the woodstove with a lantern and candles burning for light while it snowed outside. Honestly one of my more cozy memories that I cherish. I actually was inspired to bust out my storm lantern and give it a good burn, just to make sure it still works.
Same here
My BEST Christmas experience in the last decade was a meal out at a remote inn a couple of years ago where a thunderstorm caused a power-cut. We had candles everywhere and there was a huge open fire going. Eventually we turned out into the snow and drove home over a mountain pass on fresh snow. So reminiscent of my childhood winters in the 70's with lanterns, candles and cosy nights round the fire.
I love the utility of these but find the smell of kerosene nauseating because of past less fond memories. Lol. When my family hit hard times we couldn’t afford a gas bill to keep the house warm. We heated it just enough to keep the pipes from freezing and we had a kerosene heater in the kitchen where we would gather for homework and meals. I don’t miss those days.
Bright .....I'm 76 and we never used kerosene lamps, we used gas mantle lamps, much brighter and cleaner.
@@johnarnold893 We had a Coleman mantle lamp too, but for whatever reason my parents usually reserved that for the kitchen. We used kerosene lamps and candles otherwise. This was back in the late 70s. I've been looking into getting some paraffin oil for my feuerhand lamp. it's supposed to be less stinky.
15:22 BOFA DEEZ LANTERNS. HE KEPT GOING. MAN'S UNSTOPPABLE lmao I love finding fellow quiet types with surprisingly risqué humor. TH-cam got it right recommending this channel to me
Finally someone else noticed that lol
The video starts out in darkness lit by candle light.
"Gather 'round children. And I'll tell you a horror story of latent heat."
followed by a scary movie about the refrigeration cycle
Alec was right about the Western vibe that these elicit.
@@rik8508 Then it become a full movie franchises about RCA's exciting new video disk technology. Fallowed by 20 sequels all on the same topic.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Loved the reference to peg solitaire.
We still have one at home for emergency use during cyclones (we live in a coastal area in India and electricity supply gets disrupted for days during cyclones). 20 - 25 years ago, we had to use it almost daily, back then the electricity supply in our region was totally unreliable. A lot of folks of my generation and older have spent their childhoods studying in the light of these lanterns.
We used to have these when i was a kid in W africa. Although I did prefer reading by candle light (3-4 candles minimum) coz the vents of the dietz lamp were right at face level and u ended up breathing the exhaust...
And For all the years i recall, it never fell or tipped over. But we didn't have tide pods either.
This was my childhood experience, too but in the US, and around the same time or maybe 5-10 years prior. We'd lose power every year for weeks during hurricane season, and just randomly for a day or two at a time all year due to rains or wind. By the time I was an adult they had both improved the wiring and also cut most of the trees that were close enough to the lines to regularly cause trouble. We had the glass type of lamp and they got really hot.
We used to use them on the farm.
"Why in the world would you need 31 minutes to explain this?"
31 minutes later
"I'll be damned"
Because a half hour just aint enough time! 😉👍
@@Stanley.77 anyone ever told u that u look like a know off version of the undertaker?
Or a radioactive Putin
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Wow, now I learned about lamps, and also why one of the flamethrowers in Team Fortress 2 is called the "Phlogistinator"
Aaaah! Yeah Nice noting that :)
I remember these lanterns very well because we still use them in the Swedish military to keep light in tents. I would guess the reason is that it produces a quite pleasant light that is bright enough for the fire-watch to be able to see but dim enough for the rest to be able to sleep comfortably. Maybe it's also easier to get a hold of kerosene than to replace flashlight batteries as well.
Well, batteries perform less per cold degree. They do not provide any heat.. And they need individual effort to fill their role.
NATO forces have standardized on JP8 (Jet Fuel/Kerosene) for all air and land based operations, so this fuel would be very common in a military setting
@@MrDymiumNatoma standardized double a batteries too
The writing was fantastic on this episode. I never imagined myself ever caring about topics like this. Your videos about Christmas light videos drew me in and I’m very happy they did.
I used to be a candle designer. You mention the "self-trimming wick", but there's also another thing that influences how a candle wick burns.
We've all seen those dribbling candles so beloved of Hollywood horror film makers. However, you're probably also familiar with the "night light" candles which have a small wick inside a very wide candle. These burn for many hours and are (relatively) safe to leave burning in a sleeping room because of the very stable wide base and, more so, because the flame burns down inside the candlewax.
Let's take this further. Upscale the size of the candle so its diameter is 6 inches. This will also have the long burning characteristics of the night light. As you said, it's the vaporised candle that gets burnt and not the wick itself. So such a candle might burn for an incredibly number of hours. But there's even more to this.
If your candle is correctly designed, with the appropriate thickness of wick. Then the candle can be designed to either consume all of those six inches of way (for better economy) or, as was typically the case in a drafty medieval church or cathedral, to burn hollow. You want the candle to burn hollow, leaving a thin wall of wax to protect the flame from those drafts.
Now, if your candle flame is protected by that wall of unburnt way, it doesn't just prevent any risk of the flame being blown out, but the flame will burn brighter.
Of course, it is crucial to get the size of the wick and the width of the candle exactly right, as there needs to be enough space between the oxygen-consuming flame and the protective unburnt wax walls, else oxygen rich air won't get pulled down that hollow tube that burning your candle is creating. But, get these things correct and you have something so beloved of religions the world over, a sort of "eternal flame" burning in our medieval church or cathedral.
Next. Well, we all know that medieval churches and particularly cathedrals are decorated with the most beautiful religious carvings. Having a candle that burns hollow presented the designers with an opportunity to richly carve such scenes on the outside of these large candles. And, because the outer carved walls won't get consumed by burning the candle, the craftsmanship isn't sacrificed in the burning. Indeed, if the craftsman so wishes, he could use the light of the flame burning down inside the candle to illuminate the richly carved design from within. It's also possible to refill the empty tube with new wax and wick, to reuse the carved candle.
Such richly carved religious candles are still available in modern day Germany. While my own interest is that I designed similar carved candles for the high end tourist souvenir market, depicting carvings inspired by England's medieval cathedrals.
Returning to your fabulously informative series on lights and how they work. I can only say a heart-felt Thank You. I've learnt so much from you, and hope you won't mind my stealing a little of your light (pun intended) by adding this small piece.
This is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing. I feel this added perfectly to this video!
I am number B. the messenger. do not kill the messenger, if you hate the message. why do you hate the message? brainwashed & programmed? or have you been told to hate the message? i hate satanist doG with big g i hate satanist dogs with small g i hate satanist doG = i hate satanist God i hate satanist dogs = i hate satanist gods(people who want to be a god) who was the original satanist (j c)? those rich satanist assholes who run this world, have brainwashed & programmed people from a young age. satanist prayer is for us to forgive those satanist assholes but our prayer is for us to punish those satanist assholes. why? for all the pain they have given us. i have too tell people about God & how people have been brainwashed in believing about their satanist doG = God. forgive= NO.. punish= YES
Today I learned there is a job called candle designer.
Yeah us Catholics (by birth, they get you when you're young) are very aware of what you're talking about. That's why it's quite sad to see LED replacements. Because the wax wall shields you from view of the actual flame it can just be swapped with an LED.
What a wonderful addition to the video, thank you for sharing yourself, mister. Now I want to buy candles.
Reminds me of an old series on BBC called "Connections," hosted by James Burke. He would expertly, and humorously, traverse the intertwined scientific, political, and environmental avenues of history that all came together in peculiar ways to bring us modern commonplace conveniences and systems.
This was a particularly excellent video.
Agreed.
@@Error_404-F.cks_Not_Found Agree. Feeling strong urge to buy petroleum lamp.
A particularly excellent youtuber you both are
I actually learned alot.
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Brilliant! What a great presentation.
I always thought the side tubes were some cheap way of constructing the lamp from pressed steel. Knowing their purpose gives me new respect for the excellent design.
That's what I thought as well.
To be honest, I just thought they were there to be pretty.
Hey, someone mentioned Baltimore without mentioning murder or crime!! 🤯
About damn time
Don't worry, Jimmy things are lookin' up.
Doesn't your comment perpetuate that more?
honestly, i think chicago is probably worse rn...
@@Cheeseisboss Not really. It's just the truth. Murder and crime are about the only thing Baltimore has going for it anymore.
Excellent history lesson on these lanterns. Well done. I own a Feuerhand lantern from Germany and burn quality paraffin oil. No smell, bright flame albeit slightly less than kerosene.
I'm from Namibia, Africa. These lamps are still in daily use by us. It is still the "best" option in many areas compared to the available alternatives.
Thanks for a very interesting video.
Can't you light the room using the light coming from your computer screen?
What about the oil lamp, can you make the oil out of waste, food waste, animal fat?
@@erikwillems3016 They didn't say that they lived there now.
@@cindyledbetter2228 No he was typing.
I am from the UK and I still use them also, especially during the summer months. They give a beautiful light, better than the other guy’s computer screen 😄.
"My fellow lamp aficionados and I, we call ourselves Dietz nuts"
Genius lol
Yass
@@nettils5555 It means they are very easily amused by bad puns.
@@nettils5555 it’s a pun on “deez (these) nuts,” which was a meme/running joke for a while where you would sneak it into conversation.
When I was a child, electricity supply in my home town was extremely unstable, and we would often have black outs that lasted for one or two days. We had a hurricane lantern like that at home to use in those situations, and a candle with a ligher in every room so we would be ready for a blackout whenever it happened. This only changed in the early 2000s. We also didn't have a very stable water suply, but that is still true to this day.
We used these at boyscouts, no matter where we were they always worked as long as the wick is maintained. And those things last long. But they live up to their name, come rain or wind or more these things would keep going at it. Never appreciated the design that much until this video. We also used them safely in the larger tents (cooking tent and such) we had. Incredible reliable piece of technology.
"And we'll maybe explore it in a future video, but you know me. Probably not."
*STILL WAITING FOR THE TELETEX EPISODE*
Just type 888 for more information.
@@bazanime 888 just turned on the subtitles.
@@bazanime 888
I was looking at his t-shirt and wondering when I missed the BBC test card episode
"Dietz nuts" and didn't even crack a smile. Perfectly deadpan. That's quality!
I bet you didn’t watch the ending
30:09
Ok, I watched the WHOLE video except the last couple minutes of outtakes. :)
Norm Abram of New Yankee Workshop once said that when wood is free and you get as many takes as you need, every cut is perfect.
15:13
This lamp does bring back memories. I had one of these in my house when I was a kid.We called it 'fanal'. It sat unused in a corner of the kitchen. I cleaned it up , stuck a light bulb inside and used it as decorative lighting. During my grandma's time people used these to walk about at night, for example going to work in the fields early in the morning.
Shoobidooby
In India?
@@anandixitin yes , wb
@@anandixitin we still have two and use in stormy nights when electricity goes for 2-3 days
@@gourisankarmandal6733 HARRYKANE 😂
I spent many years in a cabin in Canada. We used Coleman lanterns, which blew vaporized gas into a mantle that glowed white hot when they were ignited.. We had to pump them periodically to maintain the gas pressure to the mantles. They worked great, but the mantles were fragile and the lanterns hissed with the pressure when they were lit.
Our best source of light was an Aladdin lamp that used a circular wick drawing fuel from the reservior below into the combustion chamber. The flame illuminated a mantle, much in the manner of the Coleman lantern. Great light and no noise.
You had to keep the wick trimmed completely evenly all around, or you’d get carbon buildup on one side of the chimney. You also had to be careful, because the exhaust from the chimney was hot enough to light a cigar..
I love how old patents read like drunkenly-written letters to the editors.
They don't have to be perfectly written; they just have to get the rights sealed.
Thought you mistyped parents
That's because they probably were drunk
Lmao nice one
Probably because they are.
You got straight in with a fascinating fact. I've known how candles work for 50 years but what I didn't know was how recent the curling wick was. I just assumed (without even thinking about it) that it occurred naturally. Jolly interesting.
"We'll burn that bridge when we come to it" is my favorite malaphor, and hearing it made my day.
"Malaphor" is now my favourite new word. 👍
@@eekee6034 There's more than one way to beat a dead horse
@@aerosoapbreeze264 Me: Searching for a good malaphor to respond with while feeling like death on hot bricks. Okay, I don't quite feel like death warmed up or a cat on hot bricks, but I'm more than half-way there. Not sure if I made a malaphor there.
I'm rather fond of telling people if they poke the bear they'll get the horns.
I hope that counts.
I can't say if it's my favorite, since there are many excellent malaphors to choose from, and my mind does not function in a manner that lets me iterate through the list to evaluate them. But it certainly is among the many excellent malaphors I've heard and maybe used.
I like the "intro", around 2:15, that shows how much brighter an (average] oil lamp is compared to an [average] candle.
It's interesting to see that technical writing hasn't changed in 120 years.
First he says "Dietz nuts" and then he says "bofa deez lanterns"
I know what you're doing man, i can't handle this lmfao
What is this reference to?
@@WeebsLifeBalance There is also literally a product called Dietz nuts, they are meat nuts, they are nuts but made out of meat, Dietz nuts.
They are delicious, they are Dietz nuts.
So what you are saying is...
You can't handle deez
@@mutsukiaz this is better than school
I liked the video immediately.
My sister drank kerosene when she was a child (thought is was Kool-aid). Her stomach had to be pumped.
Also, "I kept reading on and found... typos" got a chuckle out of me, as well as calling Wikipedia, "this website I found."
my toddler cousin poured it in our water filter. *facepalm*
Dietz Nuts
So was your sister a lantern or a dragon? That’s the question
"Her stomach had to be pumped"
Her stomach didn't need pumping. That's just a lie the Medical-industrial complex told you so they could rob your family or the government of money, depending on where in the world you live. A lot of people get a daily dose of kerosene from carrot intake. Did you know that the original name of kerosene was carrotsene.
@@Varangian_af_Scaniae I think you got that name from a children's cartoon called Invention Story, where a rabbit finds a way to turn carrots into fuel called "carrotsene"
Carrots don't naturally contain kerosene. Sometimes kerosene is used to kill weeds.
At my place..we called this 'chicken lamp'.. usually they used to be in poultry farm
Alec's videos are always enlightening. He's been on a real hot streak recently; all the puns in this video were on fire. No other TH-camr can hold a candle to Technology Connections.
This is absolutely fascinating to me. I can remember my Dad's lantern as he walked home in the summer as he would spend the night at a tobacco barn curing bright leaf tobacco. No flashlight just his lantern. Memories from the late 1940s. No electricity until I was 3 yrs old. I still have 2 lamps and one of his lanterns. Thank you.
So you are at least 75 y/o?
I remember my father using hurricane lamps in the 80s/90s (from a family of farmer's). While camping - it was our main source of light at night.
@@lellamas2778 ...and once your eyes were adjusted it was plenty of light.
Im sorry but odd question, do you remember anything about ww2? You would still be really young even by its end in 45 but maybe you remember your father talking about it or is there anything else you can tell me of that time? Even the after effects of the war are extremely interesting.
Technically, a Zippo lighter is an "oil lamp" that you can carry in your pocket.
Ah technology, miniaturizing even the gas lamp.
I spent like the first 30 years of my life thinking they worked like Bic lighters 😆 No, they're much, much cooler.
@@nthgth Bic lighters also are pretty cool. A cylinder of compressed flammable gas and a valve controlled burner and ignition system (same ignition system as a Zippo) that can be bought for less than $3 and lasts months is a cool bit of engineering!
@@jamesslick4790 Know what, you're right! I was being judgmental there. They're also pretty cool when you look at how they work. The Bic way is sort of like a miniaturized barbecue, and that's awesome
@@nthgth Yep, LOL. I've been smoking for 41 years (If you don't smoke, don't start, Lighters CAN be used for other uses!.Like Fireworks! LOL.) I am a Zippo collector, (as well as a Pennsylvanian!) But I gotta say "BIC" is really an underrated outfit. How the heck can they make all those pens, lighters and razors SO GOOD, and yet SO cheap ?!? I use Nothing but Bic razors BTW, (Screw Gillette!) But yeah a Bic lighter is a "gas grill" in the same way as a Zippo is an oil lamp! Good analogy! 👍😊👍
I still own, use and maintain a bunch of these things.
Floridian here, I fill them with citronella kerosene when having outdoor gatherings. And use them for lighting during hurricane season.
I do have battery lanterns, these are just a lot more reliable. And rain resistant, I might add.
When you cover incandescent lamps, don’t forget about the Coleman lamp.
My friends call my Coleman lantern "portable sun"
Ah yes, the (completely unrelatedly) radioactive lamp.
And petromax lanterns they burn kerosene and are brighter than a Coleman but a bit trickier to light.
@@AJ-qn6gd the rapid starter helps with that!
But isn't it candescent?
"phlogiston" wow.
Didn't know about that, I guess thats where the tf2 pyro weapons name comes from, the "Phlogistinator"
cool!
So I guess the Antiphlogistine cream is there to remove burns?
Yeah, it was thought to be present in things that could burn (organic matter) and absent from things that didn't (rocks). The process of burning moved the phlogiston from the burning thing to the atmosphere and if the space was enclosed the phlogiston would fill the space up, and combustion would no longer be possible. Quite a clever theory, when you think about it.
(Chlorine was originally called "dephlogisticated muriatic acid air": dephlogisticated = heated (phlogiston thought to have been removed) / muriatic acid = hydrochloric acid / air = vapour.)
@@bordershader Neat, I use muriatic acid a lot at work for regenerating resin bed filters but never really know anything about the chemical itself other than its use.
I didn't even make that connection, well done!
The warm air intake evaporates the fuel better, per my 70's automotive training. Exhaust gas recirculation systems in cars heat the incoming air to about 100f to better utilize the atomized fuel particles. So, even where the air expansion factor inside a piston is most important, warmer intake air can utilize the expansion of the fuel combustion to it's advantage. I subscribed at Dietz Nutz.
I think that has changed, EGR was about decreasing combustion temps by decreasing the amount of combustion taking place. Nowadays we've got some fancypants EGR coolers, after most cars lost EGR entirely, because they do not want the intake temps to be hot. That's basically counter intuitive to decreasing nox, which is why they recirc in the first place.
Most cars have a much, much tighter control over ignition timing and fuel flow though, so they "push the limit" a whole lot harder than things in the 70's. Running high intake temps would make that impossible, so they cool the recirculation gases. No more air pumps is a bonus, though!
Cold air has greater oxygen density, in car engines the limiting factor for power is how much mass of O2 per second you can supply, hence turbo chargers etc. cold air delivers more mass of O2 for a given volume, so would allow you to burn more fuel / second giving greater power in cars or greater illumination in lamps. If fuel economy if the overriding goal, then the hot system will be better, as the presenter said, not only recirulating partially combusted fuel, but also less O2 to slow the rate of combustion.
Jet airplane mechanic here.
Same thing applies. Though the engine's hot oil is sent through an exchange grate. Through the other side of which flows the cold fuel, heating it up as it shares the same fins as the hot oil. Cooling the oil, and heating the fuel. Same result (:
Id, agree, from a stand point of theoretical mechanics. An oil lamp doesn’t rely on differences in pressure like an engine does. And that again relies on differences in gas temperature. An engine can have an advantage of sucking in more mole/grams of air at low pressure when the air is cold, something that an oil lamp has no need for.
While the combustion temperature of an oil lamp is probably well below ideal, and a warm air intake can raise that temperature some. The hot blast lantern is quite extreme at that, however, and the only reason it burns cleaner is that it recycles its exhaust as well, giving it a second (and third) chance to burn. You’ll need quite a lot air circulation to make that burn well, and then it defeats its purpose of heating the air.
My Mom bought 1982 Escort new. It had the heated air intake snorkel to the carb. and was jetted so lean wouldn't run without it. Had to get new vacuum motor to replace one that stopped working.
I personally appreciated the understated joke about whales, Wales, and Welsh.
"we call ourselves Dietz nuts"
"Bofa deez lanterns"
perfect
*goes to click like on video - already liked*
Completely deadpan as well
@@timrb happened to me too lol
goteeeeem
*Dietz lanterns
"Dietz nuts"
"Bofa deez lanterns"
I knew I subbed for a reason. Subtle usage of dead memes is my shit.
conspiracy for the maximum sentence
Nothing is dead about it. Just because cringy kids stopped using it after a week of spouting it like maniacs doesn't mean it's dead. As long as it's generally known of, it's not dead.
I was laughing too hard to catch the "bofa deez" the first time.
Those are dead memes? I guess I'm a little behind.
Memes never die
Pre-heated combustion air INCREASES the rate of fuel combustion by increasing the liquid Kerosene's vaporization from the wick. With cold air you would instead require a longer wick to compensate, which as you already described burns away the wick a lot faster.
EDIT: Apparently TheSupremeOne also suggested additional advantages. Less Fuel and Air-mass is necessary to upkeep the Flame's temperature if the hot air exhaust(up to 1250 Kelvin) is reintroduced into the combustion reaction.
Overall the whole lantern becomes more powerful. I don't know which one of these advantages is the greatest, if someone could calculate this we would all be interested!
Keep in mind these lanterns are designed for Outdoor use during storms etc; environmental air will be quite cold.
That’s interesting
Beat me to that explanation, I actually wondered why he didn't grasp that during the presentation. It's a case of apples and oranges, not apples and apples like he was conflating.
expanding on your correct explanation of the benefits of this preheating. heat increases the vapor pressure of the fuel, allowing a larger proportion of gaseous fuel available for combustion. in car engines, instead of relying on the specific vapor pressure of the fuel, the carburetor or fuel injectors atomize the fuel when mixing it with the cold air from the intake.
Maybe he was also intended to include a catalytic converter. (they need to heat up fast to work properly) It seem a nice function to have had considering the exhausts. ;)
This thought lead me to the "Döbereiner's lamp" by the way. Which got nothing to do with particle filtering, but it was an interesting design all the same.
In regard to the comparison of the 'cold air intake' in cars, internal combustion engines want more expansion to drive the piston, colder air can expand more than warmer air and thus produce more power. The additional power comes at the expense of lower fuel efficiency and more incompletely combusted fuel since the reaction is colder.
TL;DR hot air is better for more combustion, cold air is better for more expansion
We used these lanterns when the power went out due to winter storms blowing the lines down. Took the power company a few days to repair. So, for about 3 days, we used these and gas stove for light and warmth. :)
I grew up in a "developing" nation in the late 80s early 90s. These lanterns were a staple in every house. Blackouts were as common as pissed off soccer moms at Starbucks so we all had em. In fact, they were used as marker lights on rickshaws. Read that again. When you lit them it took me way back. I love the way they look. Thanks to you I know what brand to get. I was really young back then and I swear we used knock offs that may or may not have killed us at some point.
I grew up in the _very_ modernized Norway at the same time as you. We too had these lamps. Most households had one around. As a scout, I still use these very useful things when camping.
As a kid in a mosquito environment, some homes people would put them around the front porch where people sat in the evening and ot helped keep mosquitoes away..
Bangladesh?
I live in a developing nation, it's part of the United States. It's called "Jackson County Kentucky" and large parts of the county is rural, I have coal oil/kerosene heaters in several parts of my home, and coal oil/kerosene lanterns in every room and hurricane lanterns outside. I do have a small backup generator enough to handle the refrigerator/freezer and other luxury items.. But for lighting I rely on coal oil/kerosene they are dependable do a great job and relatively safe "I also have fire extinguishers in several parts of the house, along with smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors. " And I also use A deep cycle marine battery with a 12 V trickle charger on it that I picked up for a couple of coins at a thrift store. And a old EPS unit the sealed 12 battery in it had gone bad so it modified that along with my deep cycle marine battery and That supplies plenty of light for my kitchen and living room, enough to read a book comfortably with and it comes on automatically if the electricity is disrupted. And I can live relatively comfortable and safely for at least 30 days I think it's funny because my friends in the city struggle to find ways of charging their cell phones and scramble for batteries for their flashlights. While us rural dwellers we are used to it so we'll usually grab a book or something to entertain myself if the Internet goes down and it's happened more than a few times. :-) during the winter months it's not unusual for us to go several times a month for days on end without electricity/water/transportation.. And we've had times where the electricity has been out for a week and on several occasions over a month! But that's the price you pay when you live up in the mountains surrounded by trees in nature.
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The last thing I expected to learn from this video is why Pyro's most hated flamethrower is called "The Phlogistinator."
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"We call ourselves Dietz Nuts..."
"Bofa deez lanterns"
I love you, and I love the outstanding work you publish on this channel!
A true gentleman and a scholar
got eem
Thank you for this comment! I would have missed Bofa deez lanterns from laughing too hard.
This killed me
I was going to say something, but you beat me to it!
Love his jokes for sure. 💖
Never thought I'd be seeing a video teaching about Old Fashion lamps.
7:51 I remember using these and older versions when I was a child in the 90's.
"We call ourselves Dietz Nuts"
This joke, my dear man of culture, deserves a Like and a Sub
Two.
And then bofa right after. Truly a script writing genius
I thought, ‘lemme give you the Dietz’ was the best.
It give me no choice but to subcribe...
OMG I burst laughing...
We had the dead flame lanterns when I was growing up in case power went out during storms. It definitely saved us when our city got hit with a blizzard for a week and the grid went down. The lanterns provided both light and a bit of warmth. It was a really poignant moment in my life, and to this day, my dad still has these lamps. Have a follow. The way you spoke was relaxing and informative. I also love the bloopers.
we have them down in florida to for hurricanes, everyone in my family has at least a few of the deadflame ones. have used them quite a bit myself.
Rural Sweden, Finland etc yes, we still have these (fueled, ventilated outside even though electric lights too but this is backup, warmth to one room during blizzard etc so no breaking of water pipes etc). Also, cow's getting calf they call/fetch human help most often 3-4am, and if power is out this is bright enough, fast and yes, test it, brighter than electric lamps and simpler than flame-incandescent ones for emergencies and speed).
Reliable backup lighting even today. Simple and quick. As he said, it’s better than nothing at all.
@@snoodles3013My Grandma moved to Stockton during the 1930s from Oklahoma, she always made sure to have a handful of these around just in case. We used them every winter.
perhaps it's the jet fuel that is a waste compared to the necessity of having a lantern.
It’s after midnight, I’m totally sober, I do not own any lanterns and have honestly never thought of lanterns in any way, yet I sat enthralled watching this entire video. Well done, sir.
SAME! I *almost* want to go out and buy a couple lol.
I own tons of lanterns and more than a couple of kerosene heaters. I live in a very rural part of Kentucky up on a mountaintop and it's amazing that I even have electricity let alone Internet. The people in my area rely on a co-op for our electricity so it's pretty much a monopoly and electricity is high. Even with energy-efficient heat pumps are electric bills can easily run $250 $300 a month, and that's when the electricity is on! It's not uncommon for us to go without electricity for at least 24 hours and there's been several occasions that it has lasted a week and on a couple of occasions a month. So We rely on kerosene heaters and wood-burning stoves for heat. And kerosene lanterns/hurricane lamps/Aladdin lamps as a backup for lighting and also helps with a little bit of heat. I have probably 10 or 12 kerosene lanterns and just recently installed a kerosene wall lantern next to a reproduction wired wall phone "we also don't get self-service in this area" I recommend everyone should own a couple of kerosene heaters and at least 3 or 4 kerosene lanterns. I have a backup generator countless flashlights and flashlights and generators can fail, and batteries can go bad. But my kerosene fueled equipment is rotated regularly and I've had kerosene and several of my lanterns that is over 10 years old and although it does expire the 10-year-old kerosene lanterns I have hanging to function although not as efficiently when the kerosene was fresh. But in an emergency it would work. I've tried all other types of lighting and heating equipment like propane and gas stoves and they all have their purposes. But for the most part you can't be kerosene for dependable heating and lighting. PS but it doesn't hurt to pick up some LED Christmas lighting after the holidays, that comes in handily as temporary lighting while you're looking for your lighters and matches :-) in conjunction with emergency exit backup lighting that comes on automatically when the electricity goes out it lights my entire home even if I'm not home at the time for 2 and half hours.
Same. The algorithm is helping us prepare for the apocalypse, apparently. Lol
I’ve had a few...what’s all this about lanterns?
Agreed 100%
I LOVED the opening for this video, the soft glow of the candle, how on ignition it lit up enough to see you and then grow dark and dim, guiding the eyes to the single point of the candle and slowly it growing brighter and you coming back into view from the increasing light. Such a cool shot
"Well, allow me to fill you in on the Dietz."
That's it. I'm out.
Dietz jokes are too much for you?
You're calling it quitz on account of Dietz? What? Without Dieztz, the tale's incompletz. Why don't you stay, and retake your seatz?
@@oliversmith9200 Did you pay for these jokes? I need your recietz. Or else all your comments will meet with delietz.
stay! he makes an even better joke in a minute or so.
I see what he did there....