Life After YWAM - How to Adjust

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  • This has been my personal experience with YWAM, and I hope it can help you in some way!
    Watch part 2 here!: • Life After YWAM #2 - F...

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  • @enjoyy-your-life
    @enjoyy-your-life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've come home from DTS 11 months ago and I still find it hard to connect these two worlds. For the first months I was so homesick and missed the base and the people so much. A lot of my friends, nearly all of them, went back to YWAM to staff but I didn't feel like I should go back even though I wanted to. But seeing them continue to grow closer to each other and experiencing great things was hard, especially with Covid and Lockdown and I questioned my decision a lot. And then being home to the same environment I was in before without people who are close to Jesus was so difficult... And after I did a few things again that I knew were wrong and that God freed me from I just felt so bad and ashamed that I didn't manage to keep living with Jesus the way I did in YWAM. I was disappointed with myself and still am. This is a helpful video, I should have found it earlier.

  • @maryellenfaust6987
    @maryellenfaust6987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much! I've been watching videos about spiritual abuse and YWAM which could happen anywhere in any church. Your video helps me as I send my daughter to YWAM --not only should she be aware of people trying to be God but also aware that YWAM isn't where you're going to live. That kind of community is powerful and I think some of what the early church experienced. Through persecution they were dispersed to the ends of the earth. That must have been painful but ultimately this is where we do the most growth. Taking what you've learned and joining God in His work wherever you are is a true sign of growth. You made that choice. YOu have a great mom!

  • @jingsproule9091
    @jingsproule9091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you man, it really helps. Almost 10months after leaving Y. Thought I processed well, only to find myself missing the intense community that I found too hard to stay (what a conflict!). Real simple n practical applications- closure by recognizing the good and release it to His hands by blessing them, then continue on the journey with Him...I'll apply that right now...thank you so much!

  • @laurenholdeman5715
    @laurenholdeman5715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so good 🙌🏼 Thanks for the encouragement! May God bless you in your new season 👍🏻

  • @AHulst
    @AHulst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude! You summarized this so well! Such a good idea to bless other people!

  • @user-nb6bj3fs2b
    @user-nb6bj3fs2b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I truly enjoyed your sharing of transformation from YWAM to daily life. Thank you for sharing!

  • @brook8995
    @brook8995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou so much for sharing your journey! I did my DTS in the summer of 2015 and i definitely have felt all of those emotions and just towards the end of 2016 have i begun to feel that release and integration! It is so different for everyone and i have truly begun to love the life im living again this year!

  • @Ediehopeacdemygirl
    @Ediehopeacdemygirl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OHMYWORD this was such a blessing and so helpful! Thank you! I'm considering doing a DTS after my undergrad and before graduate school. I've done some other missions trips/ longterm volunteering and see how much I could've used this information then and now! Going to watch part 2 right now!

  • @willy8703
    @willy8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video. I returned from my dts two days ago and I just feel so homesick and empty atm. I guess Jesus is the only constant in this all

  • @derdennisw22
    @derdennisw22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maaaan! thanks for making this video! this was releasing! :)
    thank you

  • @MM-vp8ht
    @MM-vp8ht 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good man! Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing what you've learned! It's definitely not easy leaving ywam and going home-- but if we came home we came home for a reason, hey? I loved what you said about involving God in our lives at home. It's such a simple truth-- and at ywam it's so easy-- but its something that's so easy to overlook at home with all the distractions! Thanks for making this video bro, God bless! :)

  • @zariyonce8651
    @zariyonce8651 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for doing this video. I came back from YWAM in September, and this is really helpful.

  • @musicmatters198
    @musicmatters198 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for posting!! Really needed to hear this!

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks for watching! Really blesses me that this reached someone!

  • @catherinecurl515
    @catherinecurl515 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I relate so much to your experience and have been struggling with both alienation and assimilation with “bandaids” rather than submitting to the process of integration with patience and keeping Kingdom perspective. Involving God in this season is absolutely necessary the struggle has kept me almost “frozen”.

  • @sunflower260285
    @sunflower260285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Crash and burn!I completed my DTS in Dec 2019 and I am struggling to adjust. I feel so empty and confused.😶Oh great explanation, it's on point!

  • @jodanvids
    @jodanvids 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this video! I wasn't a part of YWAM, but I lived in a Christian community house in college that provided many of the same learning experiences, and I have also experienced the sense of confusion and being unsure how to carry on in the real world. This was very encouraging!

  • @maisinarisini
    @maisinarisini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've never been to YWAM, but I've been through other mission schools and mission trips, and I wish I would have watched this video earlier. This is so true. Focus on Jesus, involve Jesus.

  • @internationalregistrarpaci561
    @internationalregistrarpaci561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing! Your wisdom is rich!

  • @marlstarl8791
    @marlstarl8791 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! I'm sure it's helping a lot
    Of people. :)

  • @leahlewis5754
    @leahlewis5754 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was so helpful! Thanks for doing this!

  • @annajooron2834
    @annajooron2834 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still missing YWAM after several decades!!

  • @misskat7437
    @misskat7437 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for uploading this. I haven't had a lot of luck researching positive feedback on WYAM. I feel a strong pull to get away from my town and attend the school in Orlando, FL. I have read some of the comments about receiving spiritual abuse. In my limited wisdom, perhaps there are some people that didn't know how to assert themselves in those situations (which is very hard to do!) I also wonder if there is a huge age gap (I pray not, I don't want to be the only person in my mid 30s in that living situation) and usually, not always, that people experience what you did because not only can life be disappointing but they didn't really have an idea of what their gifts were to begin with to help give them a sense of direction when it was all over? I usually try to have a teachable attitude but remember to take things with a grain of salt. I know my main gifts because I'd end up in situations where they came out on their own, and it usually involved risk! A missionary school didn't do that for me. Anyway, I am very sad for everyone who has PTSD from spiritual abuse but just know that is NOT God's character and we are in a battle. Please don't give up on Christ, who is the only source of Hope.

  • @philk8803
    @philk8803 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! So good ! God bless you!

  • @guayabagirl5
    @guayabagirl5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this video because of the honesty and reality of things, this happens when we do mission trips in a specific area for long time but ultimately the reality is to take the message to your home, community, city, state, and spread God's word and love everywhere, that's the cruel and raw and beautiful reality. We are meant to grow, as we applied what we learn from this experience with God, going from glory to glory, is not easy but IT IS THE MOST REWARDING AND BEAUTIFUL THING GIVEN TO US FROM GOD.

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOVE IT! So true!

  • @cherishmycloset8897
    @cherishmycloset8897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing testimony! Saludos desde YWAM Argentina 🇦🇷

  • @tdvoeks
    @tdvoeks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 years ago I was born again and after 3 years I lost the feeling or fire as some say. It sounds to me they want you to go home and start your own community of believers! How exciting! I think they should help you get started in your community like an Apostle does! It never gets old when you are doing what God expects of you! I am now praying for you and all the others!

  • @nikibear_7236
    @nikibear_7236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this video I was amazed. I felt the EXACT same way when I came back from my DTS. I was almost to the point of being depressed because I missed everyone who had become my family, spiritual growth wasn’t as rapid, and I felt like life would never get better than what I just experienced. I just couldn’t get how I could possibly live in normal life when I knew what it was like to be out of it.
    I eventually had to stop all the lies that were circling my head and place God First.
    I wish I had this video to see that I wasn’t the only one. It’s been a year since I came back and I’ve had to learn this very slowly and am still learning this, but what a brilliant video of hope and a great reminder.

  • @Aoraki09Cottage
    @Aoraki09Cottage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant .....well done! ......YWAM isn't five month of ministry, sharing and outreach but the start of a lifetime of ministry, sharing and outreach. ......but English captions would be good in all of it?

  • @judahbartch8139
    @judahbartch8139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bro this is like exactly what I am going through right now the lord is so faithful but its freakin tough I miss YWAM so much.

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You got this man! Keep pressing in to God's perspective and he'll remind you that there is more he has for you and wants you to do. In a message I heard yesterday, the preacher said something that I never want to forget, he said "Eternity starts now! As soon as you received Christ into your heart you were put on mission." It can be easy to get hung up on what we can't have anymore, but we need to be reminded that all we have is from one source, and that source is the only thing we will always have. Keep plugging in and God will refresh you. The bible says David encouraged himself in the Lord. Your greatest tool to staying refreshed is the living word of promise God has given you! I'm praying for you. :)

    • @sweetheart-kt5vn
      @sweetheart-kt5vn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I miss ywam....it's been 20 yrs :(

  • @bonespiel
    @bonespiel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every great revival or spiritual event eventually leads back to reality...... Sometimes life is a let down. God is life, love and so much more. When the world is lead by dark forces it feels scary because all the wonderful experiences that spiritual revivals or events like what you have mentioned give such a euphoric feeling that is hard to maintain in a vacuum of darkness making you not wanting to return to life. My faith is shallow, filled with doubt like that of Thomas..... But God knows my heart and I hold on to the fact that God loves me and there is hope even for me despite my imperfection. I only know in part now but in the future God will explain it all.

  • @mattmercer7607
    @mattmercer7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If YWAM isn't relatable to everyday life, it is worthless. We're not called to live and thrive only on a Base or while serving on outreach. We're called to live in this world, but not of this world. But, this is where I don't think YWAM offers great training at all is where "it only seems to works" if or when remaining in, with YWAM. The Kingdom is much bigger than YWAM. And I don't think this is the idea by how Jesus expects Christ followers to live like as though YWAM is a drug that we need to serve Him or survive in this world. Jesus, alone is what we can't live without to survive. Not YWAM. I find no problem with people posting about their very real struggle post-YWAM. But, what I do have a problem with is YWAM itself which has trained us poorly to feel as though we can't adapt, survive, transition well, do life or ministry without them. This common attitude and co-dependency among us as YWAMer's ISN"T EVEN REMOTELY HEALTHY OR BIBLICAL. Yet, it is a common pathway and journey for many of us. To those who read this, know this: there is an abundance of life, and vitality in Christ, OUTSIDE OF AND INDEPENDENT TO YWAM!!! It's just sad that YWAM has conditioned many of us to struggle and think this way.

  • @Free-flyBE
    @Free-flyBE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate your candor..my so has been staff 4 years & honestly comes home with a judgemental attitude. It's common even for college kids, or military. But missionaries need to understand we're all God's children no matter what or where..we all struggle. YWAM bubble is not reality imho. He doesn't seem to care about his family members who struggle on our own ground

  • @weelynn1862
    @weelynn1862 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your rawness and honestly! thanks so much, thinking of doing a DTS this year, where did you do yours and what's happened since then? God bless

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did my DTS at 'YWAM San Diego Baja' in Ensenada, Mexico! Since being home I've started a men's ministry with my buddy, I volunteer as youth leader, I've upgraded my highschool courses, went to university for a semester, worked at a barbershop for a while, and I'm now currently doing carpentry again (I used to do that before YWAM). Just figuring things out as I go! Haha

    • @weelynn1862
      @weelynn1862 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow that's amazing that you started a ministry and done so many great things! looks like DTS has impacted your life in a big way! looking forward to doing one myself even if I'll feel old compared to everyone else (I'm 31!). I hope you continue in your journey and God blesses you! :)

  • @margarita-daisy
    @margarita-daisy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so nice!!! Thank you and best reagrds from germany

  • @lynettepettitt655
    @lynettepettitt655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the reasons why people have these re-entry experiences is because YWAM isolates people during DTS... If you maintain strong connects & communication during your time at YWAM you'll find it's not as difficult.

  • @catherinefiscal5134
    @catherinefiscal5134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m thinking of doing a YWAM dts in newcastle australia, but i keep going back & forth because of my desire to go to college. it’s honestly such a hard decision to make. it’s hard for me to see what i’m supposed to do when i come back. i’ve always dreamed of going to school to study music education but i’m scared i’ll lose my playing abilities while i’m there. it’s a lot to think about but i still really want to go to YWAM, i’m just scared about life after and if i’ll even be able to afford college.

  • @thecreativenook374
    @thecreativenook374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou so much this really means a lot! I just finished ywam 3 weeks ago now and have been feeling really lost and your video has been a huge help! Also I have TH-cam channel if you want to check it out it's called the creative nook :)

  • @Longe
    @Longe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    YWAM tells students that they don't need to go to university after their DTS, as they won't return to YWAM if they get an education. YWAM creates the cycle of perpetual poverty & rarely helps one who's served for years when they have basic needs (Such as using a base car to get to a doctor's appointment).
    For the most part, the only people in YWAM who can make it an actual career, buy a house, et cetera are those few charismatic leaders who can profit off having their airfares paid & get a "love offering" to speak at YWAM bases all over the world or have written books & other evangelism materials that they can sell mostly to other YWAMers.
    When I first went on base staff at YWAM Honolulu, they wanted us to pay $150. a month but let us pay what we felt we could afford each month so I paid $50. a month. Later, it was a higher, set amount. If you could not pay, "that was God's way of showing you that you should no longer stay there." Also, if you could not pay the full amount, it would carry over to the next month until you were burdened with a large bill for the "privilege" of volunteering to work for them. If you left & had not paid off what you owed, they would send reminder letters until you did!
    When one stays in YWAM for years they have nothing to show for it career wise or financially. It is a dead end. If they stay for decades, they usually have nothing put away for retirement. All the while, they will be told that God supplies & will take care of all of their needs. God also gave us a mind & free will. By the time many leave YWAM they are in poverty financially, emotionally & worst of all spiritually.

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's rough, that doesn't sound too fun at all. How've you adjusted after being back from YWAM?

    • @Longe
      @Longe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's been over 20 years since I did my 12 years with YWAM Honolulu. I have had repeated nightmares of being back on base & in the dreams that are so real I often say to myself, "I knew better than to come back into YWAM". Only recently the nightmares have been less frequent or emotionally draining. I started to heal once I spoke out about the abuse, started a blog about YWAM & started a FB group for those who have suffered spiritual abuse in YWAM which as of this moment has 181 members who've shared similar stories of abuse & false doctrine from bases around the world. Many are now atheist. I even know of a YWAM leader from Honolulu while I was there who is now atheist. I am thankful I clung to Jesus & knew that his character was not reflected in YWAM leadership. I have grown in my relationship with Him far more since leaving YWAM than when I was in it

    • @ironicbird
      @ironicbird  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow that's tough. I'm really glad to hear you have stayed strong in your faith, I know quite a few people who have fallen away after coming back.

    • @Longe
      @Longe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad to hear you seem well grounded in the Lord. All we can do for those we know who have fallen away is for the Lord to reveal himself once again to them & bring godly, loving people into their lives as His ambassadors.

    • @BadEconomyOfficial
      @BadEconomyOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can confirm the poverty you mentioned Longe, I experienced all 3 of these types of poverty, not just in YWAM but in certain churches in my hometown, still a Christian though.

  • @techElephant
    @techElephant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't give up with the goal!... Help others get closer to Christ!

  • @guayabagirl5
    @guayabagirl5 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate even though I never been to ywan

  • @showertester6541
    @showertester6541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @michaelarlen6840
    @michaelarlen6840 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    god bless!

  • @laluenbaires
    @laluenbaires 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you now after three years?

  • @glennrobinson7193
    @glennrobinson7193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's something about YWAM since the 1980s that has never jived with my spirit. I'm not saying i think there's something wrong, but possibly something that is woefully AMISS. All this warm fuzzy 'bonding' and loving is all nice, but what we really need is some Elijahs and Jeremiahs who have some thunder. Too much go softly namby pamby in most christians.

  • @kobalt9853
    @kobalt9853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you do your DTS?

  • @salmonsandy6322
    @salmonsandy6322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job. You could be a great political analyst.

  • @Vikingshop
    @Vikingshop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ME TOO - I MISS THE COMMUNITY LIFE TERRIBLY.....! I am studying the Bible and noticing that GODS WORD actually says that we humans are created TO LIVE IN COMMUNITY! We are not meant to be isolated in small apartments or houses scattered throughout the city. WE ARE MEANT TO LIVE AND WORK TOGETHER LIKE A FAMILY! So let us ABANDON the way of the world ... isolating ourselves! Satan has easy access to us when we are isolated. LET US START HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIAN COMMUNITIES...! 💖 Inviting our Families to join us.

  • @suesheification
    @suesheification 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We've replaced people with things in the Western culture and wonder why we are miserable.

  • @maureenthefirst1
    @maureenthefirst1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not only for getting you ready to go back home. I was with YWAM for a number of years. There should be a time of prayer and be seeking God for your next step. There are many classes you can take to grow deeper in service to the Lord. It is kind of sad to just go do a DTS and nothing more. DTS is an introductory training course and that is only the first step on a journey with God. I'm sorry you didn't go deeper. One class is just scratching the service. Do you know yet what God wants you to be doing with your life?