4 Famous Musicians (Who Stole Their Biggest Hits) - The Spit Take
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Michael Jackson admitted studying and imitating the greats like Bob Fosse, Fred Astaire, James Brown and Jackie Wilson.
Also I thought the video was about songs i.e. "BIGGEST HITS", not dance moves. He never said he invented moves.
He said he took inspiration from the greats...and made them greater, and he did.
Qskool FPV lol i was going to type something similar, but you beat me to it.
Interesting, because MJ told James Brown to his face in 2001 (after the BET awards) that much of what he did, he got from him. James Brown responded, 'Well now Michael, you did do that, but then you got your own steps.' So yes, Michael always publicly acknowledged that he took from folks. The dude surrounded himself around professional dancers, so there was no way he was gonna get away with straight up stealing and not crediting others, and not get called out. If you see Michael freestyle, he's got a few moves that he does on his own. Vocally, he was heavily inspired by folks such as Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder ('Hee hee hee'), Mavis Staples ('Shamon!')... i think the thing is with Michael, you have to be as keen a study of art and music as he was, and there would rarely (if ever) be debates like this, because the sources of his inspiration would be well known.
Led Zeppelin (on the other hand) straight up jacked blues artists' music, and credited themselves as the authors. And did it consistently. i was also not aware that Johnny Cash pretty much jacked that song!
So as long as you admit you stole the moves it's ok. Gotcha.
Of course, MJ has always mentioned Bob F. as one of his idols like James Brown, Chuck Berry, Fred Astaire, and many others. He's always given credit to who inspired him.
Michael Jackson never once said that he invented the moonwalk. He never said that he didnt take inspiration. If people took their time to watch his interviews, MJ clearly says that he never invented the moonwalk, he even said that he took inspiration from other artists. Thats not stealing. MJ gave credit.
The only time he said he took inspiration was James brown. He basically made his whole career (Clothing, Dancemoves, sometimes Songs) from copying other artist and let the public praise him for "Creating" things he never did. He never once says he DIDN'T create all these things. He kinda just let people believe he created it.
Michael literally always talked about being inspired by Jackie Wilson, James Brown, Gene Kelly, and even comedians like Charlie Chaplin in his work. Go be an ass somewhere else @it's what it is
@@GranolaBars11 WHO FUCKING CARES
Not about who did it first it’s about who does it best
All these years, MJ CLEARLY stole the ideas & added his own, you can see it in other dancers. I just realized he was stealing those same moves. Bottom line: Michael NEVER admitted he took(stole) those moves... so he deceived the public believe that he did.!! many die hard fans & all Black people will be butt hurt and triggered. so MJ wasn't legit.!! 😭😂😝
No one says Usher stole the moves cause he never claimed them. Same goes with MJ.
MJ had the creativity to alter these moves a little.
Also, he wasn't afraid to put his choreographer's name on his records, specifically in Moonwalker.
He gave credit when credit was due.
There's a difference between stealing and taking inspiration. Michael Jackson never once claimed those dance moves. He always gave credit to the people who inspired him and often spoke about those people in interviews. Plus, he took the things and interpenetrated it into his own unique style and took it to a whole other level.
"Study the greats and become greater." - MJ
Plus his choreographer probably taught him most of those moves
Probably true, but his choreographers couldn't apply/ present them as good as MJ could. Just watch the first moonwalks, they were NOTHING like MJ's.
it was called backsliding before he did it.
I think his MAIN choreographer was Janet. I know she choreographed him a lot in his videos
Which video did Janet choreograph?... Michael had his own choreographers as well as mostly his own.
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
Good point, but stealing is where you take something and make it your own, whereas most of these artists took something and then kinda forgot about the second part
Luke Fairhurst Yeah I gotta say I lost some respect for the Zep. Funny thing about the Picasso quote is it was engraved on a small monument in France. Banksy took something hard and carved out Picassos name and carved his name in it.(if u don't know, Banksy is a famous graffiti artist)
Funny you have a picture of Bob Dylan and say that... but then again that's just how folk music is. I appreciate old folk songs for how nobody gave a damn whose IP the songs were, it was just music.
Well, gee, if someone famous said it, then it MUST be true!
***** Ha, when I first started to listen to Dylan my dad said "You know a lot of those songs came from Woody Guthrie." There's a good video here on youtube called "Everything Is A Remix" it covers a bunch of the stolen things from movies and music. I used to play in a few bands and when we were working on new stuff there were times we would listen to the playback and realize parts sounded very similar to other existing songs. Unlike Zepplin we would not keep that stuff. Maybe we should have, and things might have worked out differently.(doubtful, none of the bands were really good. Just average college bar scene bands)
Queen and Vanilla Ice.
Need I say more?
Also, I think I respect Cracked more than Collegehumor.
I know I like Cracked a lot more than College Humor.
I also know it for sure.
TuPac could also be added to the list. Changes is a stolen song.
Actually, Queen AND David Bowie.
And then there's Rick James and MC Hammer
Well, every rapper and everything.
Cracked is way better than CH imo. CH makes 1/10 funny things. Cracked is good, not always funny, but good in everything except new guy weekly.
That's more an example of the very common "sample" technique every unoriginal producer users today.
Like Michael said "study the greats and become greater"
That's what Michael did. I wouldn't say that he stole anything.
So doing the exact same moves are not stealing?
big difference between studying & STEALING... he wasn't authentic. had it been white person doing this the blacks would be crying for years...
@@clightning9703 He didn't steal. All those moves are much better and improved. What Bob did was barely even half good. everyone's inspired from someone.
@@therock3640 dude, MJ has NEVER danced like that his entire career. MJ even said that Bob "inspired him". what does that tell you. and I know that Poppin taco taught MJ ALOT of break moves... so yeah, MJ took many ideas for others & molded into his own. he could dance but it was not "authentic"
@@clightning9703 Bro only the billie jean and smooth criminal looks inspired. Wb Thriller, Beat it, Bad, The Way You Make Me Feel and more. There were many moves which were added by him in the choreography. His spins and footwork was much different and uniques than any other artist. The kick and leg shuffle from billie jean were his moves. That thing on two legs where he used to go up and down to first right side then left side. Is also one of his moves. Check out Jackson 5 videos. He was a master at footwork even before off the wall. He later took some lessons. Many singers take singing lessons from the very beginning that doesn't count. The anti gravity lean, standing moonwalk and the rotating one and the sideways slide were his moves. He was inspired by them but he is much better than them. He had many authentic moves.
Johnny Cash had to pay the person he ripped off? I bet that Hurt.
+RobertDeville He hung his head in court
Nicely done.
Peaceoo8 Thank you sir, I like to walk to the line from time to time.
OzzyJClarke Indeed, but he was soon on the road again.
RobertDeville Somebody stop this guy, his jokes are hotter than a ring of fire.
this channel is like watchmojo's cooler older brother
Watchmojo's younger, unresearched brother.*
+Cole Blackman this video is pretty decent and researched by the looks of it.
+Kyle Johnson this video has very few inconstancies (that I noticed), but I'm talking about cracked as a whole. They've said some pretty stupid shit.
after stealing Beatles catalog I still don't defend Jacko!
Then don't go by the looks, but by the facts. They have no business mentioning Jackson in the video which they only did so they could use a clickbaity thumbnail, implying that Jackson stole some of his biggest hits...and you call this decent? GTFO...
modulating arpeggios, descending a chromatic scale...Whoever played and recorded them first is owed a HELL of a lot of money....
+Jo Fergus I said the same about the 12 bar blues. If you copyrighted that you would be the richest person on the planet. Sadly it's lost in the mists of time. Just as well really, as Status Quo would be fucked.
+Jo Fergus Excactly. Much to be said about Led Zeppelin's originality, but 'Stairway to Heaven' is a shit example.
+Clemens Stubbe
Yep...How ironic is it that Zeppelin (ie.Page) has been castigated for building a musical legacy based on thievery (popular memes are way more fun than actual facts)...without a word of praise for all the remainder of the Zep catalogue - full of great songs that sound nothing like anything ever made before...or ever since.
I guess we can thank Bonzo and JPJ for laying it down, in unbelievably powerful and original ways, even if the other two take all the credit/limelight/popularity.
People also conveniently forget that the power of music is in how memorable it is at an emotional level...How musical ideas re-appear over and over, if they make a strong impact in a musician.
Jazz greats namelessly drop homage to each others riffs and figures all the time, without being labeled thieves...It's all coming from an emotional subconscious....For the most part.
Notice that I don't touch on what samplers did for musical thievery though...and neither does anyone else, with an axe to grind with genuine musicians, as opposed to 'playback artists'
You're quiet wrong +TheFashionbugs
Royalties are paid for"print rights", mechanical royalties, performance royalties and synch (for synchronization) royalties.
In your zeal to come across as informed, you made yourself seem confused about the actual meaning of the words you're using.
Learn about Copyright, since that's where the definitions of what musical idioms can be protected by law...these include lyrics and melody.
'Dazed and Confused' is one of many examples of a melody based on descending chromatic scales...live and learn ;-)
+TheFashionbugs I pan-fried some scaly arpeggio last Saturday night, as I was having guests over for dinner. It was delicious, with a little lemon garlic butter, and a parsley garnish. Jamie Oliver called me the next day, asking for my bank details. Later, I received a cheque for 23.56 along with a waiver that I had to sign, indemnifying him. I was floored, to say the least.
Look at Elvis and his songs...
Many of their original creators never got credit or royalties.
Misterprickly that's because he usually bought the songs, meaning they don't get royalties. he wanted to buy "i will always love you" from dolly parton but she wanted to maintain ownership and obviously later it was covered and made even more famous and she gets royalties from it.
Misterprickly Also, Elvis was upfront with not writing his songs.
Elvis was a creation. He did not do rock n roll until he got to Sun Records. He grew up in the segregated south. He never got in contact with the then-black music of blues and rock. Elvis had a good voice, looked good. Sam Phillips thought, rock is popular right now, let this kid do some rock song.
+Not Crazy But he was nothing without Col. Parker.
Killer63able
And Elvis knew he was taken advantage of. A strange fella that Elvis.
+Misterprickly Elvis does not have a single writing credit of any song he ever recorded
Wait what?! Chuck Berry didn't steal Johnny B. Goode from Marty McFly?!!! I feel so betrayed!
Lol
lol
SigmaTV I've got two words for you "flux compasator"
Ya he didn’t
If it wasn't for that call his cousin Marvin Berry made to Chuck he would've never came up with Johnny B. Goode
The moonwalk is much older than that actually. It was invented by Bill Bailey in the 50's
Not fair on Michael Jackson! The video's about "musicians who stole their biggest hits" and you're only showing Jackson's dance moves! Dance moves are not copyrighted as far as I know, and Jackson never said he "invented" the moonwalk but always said he was inspired by other artists from James Brown to Fred Astair to Bob Fosse, even mime Marcel Marceau. He also worked with choreographers for his videos (Michael Peters for "Thriller" for example). Any video about today's pop stars "stealing" from Michael Jackson? Just an idea.
Jackson didn't rip it off. He openly admitted he learned from all the greats and that's where his dance moves came from. The hat he has said was paying homage.
+Aaron Freeman They even said in the video that he didn't really "steal" the moves but he was heavily influenced and inspired by others.
His point was more that people think he's some sort of genius who came up with all of that on his own and everyone else copied him.
shut your mouth you farm animal
Aaron Freeman
That's kind of a rude thing to say the Mr. Jackson. Especially since he is dead.
An odd man you are.
+Izzy Games His point was getting more people to click on this video by putting an image of Jackson on the thumbnail. You don't steal dance moves. If you got in trouble for that no one would be able to dance ever. Literally someone creates a dance and other people do it. It's not even remotely related to stealing songs.
Jackson was not original and copied many others including Jefrey daniel , cooley jaxson , casper , Electric bogaloo , The Lockers , Alberto martinese and a lot more . Mj's pet chimp was a copy of Elvis's pet chimp and even final curtain call was copied from Elvis . Mj's more than 90 percent of moves were already done and perfected . Mj invented , created , perfected almost nothing .
wow the Johnny Cash song was terrible, he literally took the entire song. And Led Zepplin stealing isnt new but to have the balls to steal from groups that opened for you, i mean really? Why don't bands just get approval to sample the music? is that not cheaper than being sued once the song blows up?
Sampling wasn't an option back then. You had anywhere between a 2-4 or 8 track recording mixer.
The Joker I could absolutely be wrong b/c I am no music expert. But isn't sampling just using that other person's music? Like if Zepplin is gonna use the intro for Stairway to Heaven cant they just give credit to the other band in the song notes or whatever? Or do they actually have to use the recorded version that the other band has made?
Yes is cheaper and probably without the fuzz original artist don´t get all that exposure. So probably it is better for the ripped off to be ripped off and settle in court.
I liked Johnny's singing better than... Sue
he said zeppelin opened for spirit, not the other way around.
bashing Michael Jackson not for stealing music but because he took the world's greatest dancers and combined their best moves and perfected it.
Michael has always openly admitted to watching fosey and borrowing his moves.
He shouldn't be in this list
All these years, MJ CLEARLY stole the ideas & added his own, you can see it in other dancers. I just realized he was stealing those same moves. Bottom line: Michael NEVER admitted he took(stole) those moves... so he deceived the public believe that he did.!! many die hard fans & all Black people will be butt hurt and triggered. so MJ wasn't legit.!! 😭😂😝
@@clightning9703 damn you're stupid aren't you.
The biggest reason that artists steal other artist songs is that when they call them up and ask "Can we do your song", they say "NO!" So they record the song without asking. The only time they hear from the original artist(especially if the original song was not a hit) is when the new version hits it big. Lawsuit time. Actually, I can't wait until some famous group steals one of my songs and turns it into a MEGA-HIT! It will then be time to share the wealth! :)
I don't know showbiz or copyright law, but wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the rights to cover their song 'before' it becomes a huge hit? I'm sure Aerosmith asked and paid the Beatles before covering Come Together. Not sure about Van Halen covering Roy Orbison or The Kinks.
@@JLIV461 but what if you buy it and it sucks🤷♂️
every single person in the charts right now didnt write their own songs.
+Sirius Gaming Of course, they're not pretending that they did, either.
Course they are!
Adelle, taylor swift... they say they write their own songs, and probably cant even write their own names.
Well, Adele, she actually DOES write her own songs, I know that for a verified fact. Taylor Swift, on the other hand....a two second Google search into her songs will turn up the name Max Martin a surprising amount of times. He's probably the most prolific songwriter in all of modern pop music. He writes songs for just about everyone these days.
Unless you have actually sat down with Adele and watched her write the songs,then it isnt a verified fact you bellend,
Hopelessly cynical, aren't you? Also, direct me to an interview where one of these modern pop stars has actually claimed to write his/her own songs, despite not having really done so. The information on who wrote a particular song is readily available and instantly accessible. No one in these times could get away with lying about it for very long.
Take, for example, Milli Vanilli. Back in 1989 they were able to get away with claiming they wrote AND performed their songs.....for a little while, anyway. But today, an act like that would get exposed about two minutes after their first single dropped.
I wrote 'Hey Jude', but you don't hear me whining about it.
+David Maxfield
I wrote it too.
I am also not whining about it.
+David Maxfield I hear you bro, I actually wrote the James Brown song "papas got a brand new bag" except my title was "yo papa is messin with some old bag."
+David Maxfield I didn't know you were super sweet and wrote a song for Julian Lennon while his parents were getting a divorce.
+Nicole Foster You have a lot to learn about me.
David Maxfield I cannot believe you knew Julian at that time in his life.
Does this mean I can't like Stairway to Heaven with a clean conscience anymore? :/
I don't think so
When you listen to Taurus in full, it copies the riff but doesn't end up in the same direction musically as Stairway to Heaven... they are different songs fundamentally.
I feel like Zeppelin should have at least passed on a royalty check but... that's the artists, not the music
I lost a shittone of respect for Led Seppelin a long time ago already :/
yeah- I get that
But well... love the music, not the artists- that's my attitude
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the songs, just... the people who did not give credit for them where it is due
When have you ever been able to do that?
Stairway is the least outrageous example here. Dazed and Confused, Whole Lotta Love, The Lemon Song, etc. are pretty much cover tunes.
Michael Jackson has always admitted he study the greats. He never once said he invented the moonwalk or any other dance move in fact. Stop bashing the poor guy!
He had more important stuff to do, like shtupping Elvis’ daughter to cement a share of the King’s music library, or dangling a baby off a hotel balcony
Technically, I steal from The Beatles' "Revolution Number 9" every time I go thru a McDonald's drive thru and order the Fish-O-Filet.
If I had a dollar for all of the "artists" who stole my music....I'll be richer than I am today
Holy BuzzFeed title Batman.
Cracked has being doing these kinds of titles before BuzzFeed was a thing.
ginemginem Makes it even worse right?
I hope buzzfeed dies off young and it's only legacy is a genericized alternative term for 'click-bait.'
WZRD702 So true
50Calabyte lol. as if Cracked is any better than bzzfeed. it's all the same pretentious shit.
In the words of a great plagiarizer "It ain't about who did it first its bout who did it right"
Sorry, dude. I just can't agree with that.
+Tropikkkana no,its actually the idea ,that counts.and the ideas are stolen.i made a lot records and wrote many songs. .know what its about.
+Tropikkkana everything is a rip off of an early thing in the general state of reality tolkien just riped of celtic an nordic mythology, ww2 total rip off of ww1 an Buckingham palace was just some dudes shack lol. the usa is riping of the uk an the uk riped of hell an hell riped of hades lol.
in that point of view i agree 100 % they made a masterpiece out of it.
Leonardo Rios Okay, so you didn't get the reference.
"Looked at MAD Magazine and was like 'Yes! Me too.'" XD
5:39 The irony of Led Zeppelin stealing so much music, every song except one on their eponymous album, is they would sue the shit out of anyone that even sounded vaguely like them. *Even suing the original artists of the music they stole!*
Cream did the same thing that Jimi Hendrix did, taking old blues song and making them hard rock...and even though the members of Cream have egos rivaling Led Zeppelin, they respected the blues artists they were covering too much to not give them the writing credit. As Cream got more popular, so did the blues artist that inspired them and everybody won. There are songs that Cream, Hendrix and Zeppelin covered each in their different way like Killing Floor, but where Hendrix payed tribute to Howlin Wolf and Willie Dixon....Led Zeppelin re titled the song The Lemon Song and gave no writing credit. This was a band that was buying castles in the 70's. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant are to blame, hell they didn't even give John Paul Jones the writing credit for Kashmir, Jones made that song and Stairway to heaven magical. To add insult to injury, Page allowed Puff Diddy to change Jones' arrangements for a Kashmir rap song. I just can't call these guys the greatest rock band ever because Queen and Pink Floyd were much more original and much more influential in the long run.
+Dingo D. Manhunter I was agreeing with everything you said... up until "I just can't call these guys the greatest rock band ever because Queen and Pink Floyd were much more original and much more influential in the long run." Queen being innovative and original, yes of course they are! Pink Floyd being innovative, yes... original, well that's a whole other thing. Cause, you see, when every album sounds like every other album you put out, "originality" kinda goes out the window. They do have great songs (like my favorite : Money), but they're still highly overrated and complete sellouts... but you love them, kudos to you buddy!
+Jon Martin I've never understood what people mean when they say sell out. Can you explain what you mean by saying Pink Floyd sold out ?
Paul L Most of the time, being a sellout means you only make popular music that can be sold to movies, commercials and other advertisement methods. In this case, Pink Floyd is a different kind of sellout, yet following that same concept. They made the same album (much like Nickelback) because they know it would sell so they wouldn't have to expand their musical horizons. Their last album was Division Bell in 1994... yet David Gilmour put out an "album" 20 years later even though they were only B-sides. But what puts the cherry on top : Pink Floyd hasn't been a band for over 2 decades where 2 members are deceased and the last remaining members want nothing to do with each other (Waters and Gilmour), yet they respectively had tours under the Pink Floyd "banner".
Anyways, in this case, this is my definition and most people's definition of Pink Floyd being sellouts.
Jon Martin WOW ! So you have different definitions of "Sell Out", even though you still haven't defined what a sell out is. Do us all a favour n Fuck off. You're an idiot and btw no one asked you to listen to the bands that you refer to.
Paul L LOL! You asked me to define a sell out. I did, two different ways - one was a general explanation and the other was explaining that aspect in a concrete situation. And then get all mad and start attacking me on a personal level. Yup, you must be a fanboy!
Dingo made a reference to Queen and Pink Floyd being the greatest, to which I politely disagreed on one of them. And then, you come in all pissed off cause I called out PF as repetitive, unoriginal and overrated band. They're sellouts, but fanboys like yourself can't even compute the definition of the word even when somebody gives it to you. So, basically, don't ask a question you don't want to know the answer to. I don't have a different definition of a sell out, it's interpreted in different ways (yet still relevant to the same point which: losing sight of your values and your integrity for the sake of making a profit), but a sellout is a sellout and PF is a sellout band. You just have to grasp the reality that PF is a sell out band and there's different ways to be a sell out.
Just like there's different ways to prove that you're an morally offended idiot. I bashed you're favorite band, deal with it! Accept it or let it roll off your shoulders. Either way, if you still appreciate their crappy and depressing music, you have the right to just like I have the right to call them out on being crappy and depressing...
Damn, that Johnny Cash one really made me sad.
Same.. I wouldn't say it makes me think any less of him though
HE ALSO STOLE --THE RING OF FIRE- ITS A FIFTIES SONG
Peter Wood-Jenkins pretty sure june carter stole it
Johnny needed cash !
Sooo turn your head and cry?
Vanilla Ice & Bowie?
That was sampling
No there was a lawsuit and everything
Lili L Bowie? You mean queen right?
Uber King Queen featuring Bowie. But yeah, Queen.
Amie SilentHill no its under pressure
True Michael didn't exactly create all of his moves but I wouldn't say he stole them either,as with the moonwalk,it may have been used years before,but his repeated use and perfection of the move makes us all think of him when this famous move is used
The Ace
Michael stole the moonwalk from RESORTES!
There ya go, you just perfectly outlined why it's wrong to steal people's shit
always thought that Black Sabbath is way more original than Zeppelin, now I understand why)
Black Sabbath is a bad example because of their song, "Paranoid".
***** but not as original as making new music out of your own ideas
+ilya solomkin own ideas don't exist. ideas are the product of culture and your imagination to make new connections. turn it around. If led zeppelin is not original, give me the name of the artists before them that sound exactly like led zeppelin. There is none cause they are original.
Songs, already MADE are not ideas anymore.
+Monsieur Poétique led zeppelin never took a song and copied it. They took a musical part of the song and changed it into a new forms of music.
Lol, I hope people don't go "oh you're a fan and are just edefedning him because of that", cause I'm not, but I feel credit should be given where crdit is due. And I know you said that it's more inspiration than stealing, but then why put it on the list, cause MJ never "stole" those moves, he was inspired by them and coorporated them into his own style. Hiring Jeffrey to teach him the moonwalk? How is that stealing? He was inspired by so many people and he studied them and brought their styles and moves into his own. He talks a lot about this in his book and interviews. Michael always said this "Study the great, and become greater", and he did, he was amazing at this. Also, another thing, I don't understand why he is on the list anyway, he didn't rip off any songs or anything?
I feel ya
i dunno, i think there's a difference between incorporating things into your own style and just cutting and pasting everyone else's together in a string. that being said, i've never met a dancer that didn't steal something from someone.
MJ always paid homage to the people who influenced him, whether it was Fosse, James Brown or fred Astaire and innovated a style that distictly became his own. Its not what he took from other artists but rather how he used it, the title of the video is very misleading. There are those who rip off others work and then there are those who take influence, the likes of Timberlake and Chris Browns rip off the king of pop, while the man himself since the age of five was studying and sharing the stage with some of the great performers he would learn from. Besides even the the guy from Soul Train took the "backslide" from Bill Baily... But once again, choreography isn't about inventing new moves, its how you string it all together execute it, to say that MJ stole anything is an injustice to the mans artistery, a cheap video title for shock value.
with MJ he does recognize that it is more homage and using what he likes and with dance stuff more than anything else
If Timberlake and CBrown ripped off MJ, then mj ripped off Fosse (big time) and the actual people who moon-walked before he even did it. Mj's moves were exactly the same as Fosse, but personally, I think Fosse did it way much better. Don't throw Timberlake and Brown under the boss for doing the exact same thing mj did...
I think the expression is under the bus
Chaos4190 Both Timberlake and Brown many times have cited MJ as huge influence for both of them, just as MJ was influenced by these other people. Both are very great dancers and MJ is not their only influence. I can say the same thing about MJ as being a poor man's version of the GREAT FOSSE, very manufactured CLONE. See, MJ didn't make up any of his moves. He was inspired many, many people just as Timberlake and Brown... So don't even try to spew or think otherwise. It's nonsense and MJ was very proud these young men were inspired by him as he was inspired by other people... GET REAL!
Jerey Kobalt The thing is...who is Fosse??? As for MJ, he's quite possibly the most recognized figure in modern age history after Jesus Christ (some say he is even more known.)
MJ is the greatest! Everyone is inspired by something...how you create magic and blow people's socks off is a whole other story. Music, dance, vision and style all rolled into one - that was MJ!
Nobody taught him the moonwalk. MJ was a self taught dancer. And MJ did most of his choreagraphy.
You could do an hour long video just on this same topic with Beyonce.
You could do an hour long video just on this same topic with (insert 99% of today's Top 40)
714Sluggo valid assertion, I just used her as an example because she gets so much media attention. She farts to the left and it's on the news. She decides today to the right, and it's a major breakthrough.
Actually that is not true. Beyonce has never once been successfully sued for any copying. People love to do that to her it is suck a shame. Most claims have been exaggerations, lies or it came out later that she asked permission to use the piece of art. I think once she used some chero from a film for her own video and she got inspiration for one of her performances. Those are the two legitimate cases. That would not be a long video.
What I have noticed is that people let Michael Jackson get away with it even though he has been successfully sued for it. Strange.
Dani D rihAnna is even worse
You could make an hour long video of every song Elvis covered and copied.
check your sources on MJ dude. You're giving people FAULSE information. He never denied his inspiration from soul train dancers of Bob Fosse. It's mentioned in his autobiography Moonwalker!
Led Zep were persistent offenders and their fanboys really should know better than to defend them. They did it well - but they're guilty as hell.
I'm stealing that.
Yeah but not stairway
+James Clarke yes, Stairway as well.
James Clarke
They're in court at the moment over that one. To me it's less obvious than the other examples; debatable. We'll see how the decision plays out.
+aerialkate for anyone else it would be debatable, but Zeppelin stole like every song, and toured with Spirit. So I don't see why they all of a sudden would not steal and just coincidentally sound the same as a song they definitely heard before.
"Good musicians borrow, great musicians steal." Mile Davis.
+Timothy Ryan Fisher
spoken by a man who was quite likely crazy. He was a musical genius, but his "pharmaceutical" needs screwed with his brain. Who plays entire shows NOT facing the crowd?
+Marbles McGee You missed the point, but that is easy for him to do as he is well past being on a normal level. The point is, it only becomes theft when the song becomes a hit. Until then, there is no foul.
+Timothy Ryan Fisher I wonder if these are the same musicians that howl bloody murder over the "illegal downloading" of their music. Is stealing from a thief theft?
It is theft if time and money was stent producing the record.
+johnk1955 nah thats just the Metallica's and Britney Spears in the music industry, people that are only in it for the money
Fact: Cab Calloway was doing the moon walk decades before anyone else. He was filmed doing it in the early 1930's then it was rotoscope do for a Betty Boop cartoon dance sequence.
+Hunter Mann
Thank you...I'm glad someone knows about that.
And prior to that Mimes were doing it - it's called "walking against the wind".
M.J. 1st saw it in 1972 at M.S.G. when Howie did it during his Ziggy Stardust tour.
+Spencer Welch Bowie not Howie (damn auto correct😠)
I still like Led Zepplin, but now I just say that they are my favorite cover band, since that is all they ever did- covers.
WOW
I'm thinking more and more how MORE PEOPLE NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH!!
MJ didn't say he invented those moves. His fans knew and know that he said he got inspirations and was taught the dances. WOW...
That's not admitting to stealing
"Inspired" isn't me ripping you off down to how you dress let alone the dance moves MJ made his career on
And saying "I was inspired" isn't the same thing as giving credit to an artist. So shut the fuck up already
"WOW"
Johnny's rip infinitely improved that song.
+Iva Well you could argue a great artist takes a good idea and makes it better :P
+Justin Scanlon a good artist can create something both new and good
+Justin Scanlon people need to remember this when they criticize hip hop artists for sampling
I bet if I stole your car, I could drive it better than you. Means I deserve it, yeah?
@@jamesoblivion damn son, sharp tounge you there
Actually the "Moonwalk!" was done originally done by Bill Bailey not Jeffey Daniels.Bill Bailey did the original "Moonwalk!" in the movie Cabin In The Sky but he called it the "Back Slide!".
that is correct. The actual moonwalk involves moving in a circular motion....kind of sliding in place. Jackson would do it in extended versions of Billie Jean in concert
Moonwalk was created by the french mime Marcel Marceau ... and was called walk against the wind .
+Ludwig Van Zappa Michael was a big fan of Marcel and they a few times. He incorporates miming into a lit of his dancing.
+Microphone Don guys michael just improved it and called it hte moonwalk, it was called the backslide back then.
Chuck Berry is technically a beach boy. Thanks, Cracked. I love how every single video from you guys gives me at least one thing you can say in a conversation and boggle minds all over the place for 1 even caring about that thing enough to know this and 2 being able to repeat the Information from the top of my head whenever the topic comes up. Both is on you guys!
And yes, I prefer to wait for the conversation to go there. I don't bring up historically sadly impossible lost black beach boy members for the facts sake...
Back then everyone played each other's songs, sometimes at their own interpretations or slight alterations. They're called covers... Eventually copyrights came around and everyone pissed their pants.
You were behind Michael use to watch Bobby Brown , John Bubble etc them back in 1940's he studied the greats and he became the the greatest King OF Pop
Nothing is sacred anymore and everything I know is a lie.
Tom Krystinik So, that means that there still must be some sacredness.
+Tom Krystinik If everything is a lie, that means somethings still are sacred.
I think Justin Beiber's "baby" was stolen from a girl singer, I forgot her name. Search baby by a girl and see what you find
Holly Molly Folsom prison blew my mind
You should talk about how Coolio stole "Gangster's Paradise" from Stevie Wonder (Pastime Paradise), then got all pissed when Weird Al parodied it.
That was an eye opener. Sheeeesh.
I started dozing off at the end, then he started talking again
+CrazyJoshCravy Led Zepplin will do that to you
First off, MJ didn't steal anything. He accredited the street dancers that he EVOLVED his moves from. Notice I said evolved. Because Michael would take something that inspired him and take it to the next level. The moonwalk is actually a combination of two moves: the backslide seen in that video (where you push on the ball of your foot), and walking against the wind (a move created by french mime Marcel Marceau). The moves shown by Bob Fosse are NOT exact copies but heavily inspired on and changed by Michael. He is also inspired by James Brown, Marcel Marceau, and Fred Astaire. That's the equivalent of saying Bruce Lee was a copy cat because he stole a punch technique from western boxing. He borrowed on it, expanded it, and created a superior style just like MJ did. Learn your facts Cracked.
I dont think he was putting down MJ at all just showing where it came from
Christian Santana
I didn't take it as attacking so much as misinformation is all. The title of this video has the word "Stole" in it which is false on Michael's behalf. Especially considering the intro of this vid is the guy stating that he's not referencing artists that borrow and expand but rather straight stole (which is not what MJ did).
yeah think it is a bit clickbait ish but he even mentions how Jackson doesnt really steal so much as take inspiration from
Well, in the matter of MJ, he never pretended he created that whole persona out of the nothing. It has always been said that he was inspired bug time by different artists including James Brown, or Fred Astaire for the moonwalk too. So I wouldn't call it stealing...
Now those artists that copy paste AND claim they wrote or composed or whatever, now that's stealing!
Yet not one single documented interview written or on video does he EVER give Bob Fosse credit so yes he stole it
No, inspiration is NOT plagiarism.
Pspc72
So if Justin Timberlake at his next performance started to spin on stage ending with him stopping on his toes, a leg kick, wore a glittery glove and started yelling heee heee and never once EVER mentioning MJ's name as inspiration in turn having the younger audience think he invented it what would you think??? would you think he WANTED people to know he took those moves directly from mj by NEVER mentioning MJ's name??? C'mon now lol
@@johnyrome7509 everyone knows MJ's moves, his glove and "hee hee", even little kids know. no one in their right mind would think that JT invented it, they'd think JT pays homage to MJ. just like many artists wear MJ's famous outfits, people know that they took it from MJ and that they pay homage rather than claming they invented it.
but michael never said he invented the moonwalk tho
"All I wanna do is steal your money"
And the Clash's
"Straight to Hell"
It's amazing that people still like Led Zeppelin. I mean, you can steal a tune or two and get away with it. But, these people stole more than a dozen of songs and it all just seems to run off them like they are made of teflon.
+Probus Excogitatoris but whole lotta love wasn't stolen and that was a number one for a while. dont forget kashmir, the solo of stairway to heaven, and the other songs the didn't steal. But yeah, they do kinda suck for stealing
+Probus Excogitatoris because they took little known songs and re-made them incredibly awesome. if they just did flat covers, nobody would have ever heard of them. besides, you can't point to hardly a single song from ANYBODY in the past several decades that doesn't sound directly inspired from another artist, intentional or not
whitedevil2 Typical fanboy bullshit...
+Probus Excogitatoris Well, i'm not a fan of Led Zeppelin but have to agree with whitedevil.
Anyway, Led Zeppelin should credit their sources and pay the royalties.
+Probus Excogitatoris you don't know much about music, do you? everything ever written has been inspired from previously written music all the way back to Gregorian chants. most of the rock bands/songs of the 60s-70s were directly inspired by previous blues music. and you don't have to like Led Zeppelin to recognize they're one of the most successful bands of all time. so quit your crybaby bullshit and pull your head out of your ass
bob fossey lol try fred astaire for one... watch any interview where he talks about his influences and he'll run through a bunch of big names from era's past, or watch Bad 25 where they show you the specific scenes he wanted to imitate
Coldplay ripped off Viva La Vida from Joe Satrianis "If I Could Fly"
"...starts off in a pose which looks like he's trying to sit on a chair that only has room for one his butt cheeks..."
Cracked me up!
The Police ripped of "Every Breath You Take" from The Cricket's song "More Than I Can Say". Take out the harmony and switch the piano for guitar and it's the exact same song.
The Doors stole Hello, I Love You from the Kinks' All Day and All of the Night.
Yup!
+Nathan Rich you re right.thanks for the wink.
The Sex Pistols stole the riff from Hello, I Love You as well. The Pistols song was Submission. The chords are basically the same, the words totally different. I don't know if it even count as a steal.
Lou Abbott Sheesh! That's right as well. That would be Matlock's work I guess
Michael Jackson shouldn't be on this list; he was inspired and he gave credit.
...hiring someone to teach you something is not stealing ...it's literally the opposite.
Bob Fosse is an icon who influenced many many dancers.
All these years, MJ CLEARLY stole the ideas & added his own, you can see it in other dancers. I just realized he was stealing those same moves. Bottom line: Michael NEVER admitted he took(stole) those moves... so he deceived the public believe that he did.!! many die hard fans & All Black people will be butt hurt and triggered. so MJ wasn't legit.!! 😭😂😝 (MJ also asked Bruno Falcon, a Hispanic, to teach him popping moves)
I will play a chord progression for students and sing songs that use the same progression, I had a young song writer who did not want study any one else's songs because he wanted to be original. He sang me one of his songs and then I sung ten songs that used his exact progression which was I V vi IV. Music is a language, If I use English words in a poem I am not ripping off Shakespeare.
+Timothy Ryan Fisher watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ
I think the bigger challenge is finding a popular song that doesn't have anything "ripped off" in any way. Keep in mind that the idea of copyright is a relatively recent innovation.
Please make more spit takes like these!!! Very jaw dropping entertainment... with a touch of education ha ha
Whole Lotta Love is supposed to be a Muddy Waters cover, not a song Zeppelin wrote as their own!
+Erik Fraunfelter They never credited him, however. I think they were sued for this one by another band (small faces?)who had covered (legally) the song. So, there seems to be a discrepancy in your theory.
"..a movie in which Bob Fosse plays a snake, trying to tempt a young boy..."
Michael Jackson stole that from Fosse too.
Jeff White ok, that was a good one
This has always happened with music.
Especially now
@svin True
In Jackson's defense,. he never tried to claim he invented it. He always stated he saw some kids doing a version of it and asked them to show him, he just did it a lil bit better and it became his trademark dance.
I still believe the Dazz Band's "Let It Whip" inspired Michael Jackson's "Beat It"
Both Micheal Jackson and Bob Fosse were also inspired by Fred Astaire- watch "The Girl Hunt Ballet" from 'The Bandwagon"- MJ even took his costume for "Billie Jean" directly from it.
Fred Astaire's costume in "Girl Hunt" influenced MJ's look in "Smooth Criminal", not "Billie Jean".
Sorry, you're right.
Andrew Horn
No problem :)
You got a pretty amazing beard right there sir, *tips hat in respect*
I'm sure they were, but Fosse's moves aren't exactly taken from Astaire, whereas Jackson's are identical to Fosse's.
Genius is the ability to HIDE your influences. -Einstein
...And that leads me to a thought: we all know that Einstein was a genius... so, who's influences HE was hiding himself then?:))
Daft Punk stole the entire song for Robot Rock (like you played towards the end) from someone nobody knew about (Breakwater?)
I'm pretty sure that was legally sampled tho..
As with a lot of other Daft Punk songs..they used to sample classic songs and give them a Tron vibe.
Thank god the original group is getting royalties off that song, it's such a lazy sample
I still like Daft Punk, and all the videos showing the originals tipped me off on what to look for at the used records store.
The distinction is Daft Punk was creating music in the era where royalties were not only widely practiced but mandatory for artists making a living on it. Sampling is not the same as a cover is not the same as inspiration is not the same as ripping off. Go check out some liner notes of a Daft Punk album and find that the sampled artists are credited on any major riff or melody. By the 90s, anyone who wasn't actively licensing the use of samples in their music was being sued to fuck and back. To boot, their background as DJs made for a music that was sample based by design, no one was hiding the fact that they created sample based music and the nature of the art was what they did with them, not that they were relying on the quality of the original and counting on the fact that no one had heard it a la this list.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term:" A Boy Named Sue"
Frank Zappa was right about everyone (Zeppelin, the Beach Boys, The Beatles) but he was the only getting publicly sued a whole lot.
MJ didnt copy exactly and he adde his own things. just like any other artist. MJ refined and took ideas off of somebody, he never claimed it as his own. He was the best.
+Axe Rat Except that he copied step for step the dance moves from that movie. Don't worry. My childhood is now ruined after seeing this as well.
meh, he still kinda changed them. xD
Long before formal musical notation, "stealing" in music has been with us. A folk tradition going back centuries. Credit was a rare thing. You simply played the same songs everyone else did. Sometimes with musical changes, and different lyrics. Which may or may not be similar. Greensleeves is a good example. A ballad out of Spain. It has been given many different lyrics over the centuries. Look what rappers do with records. And the samplers. Countless musicians from all walks of life through the ages, would be astonished by today's music business, thanks to copyright law, and royalties. Given that, you could have included a lot more. Bob Dylan for instance. He did not write Blowing In The Wind. It's an old whaling song, he wrote new lyrics for. Remember how his lyric is one rhetorical question after another? Bob "stole" that idea too. Again, it's a centuries long folk tradition. Simon and Garfunkel "stole" Scarborough Fair. An old English ballad. Those Were The Days, out of Russia, from who knows how long ago. On the other hand, did these musicians genuinely steal? I am inclined to say yes. But then there is the famous saying many have claimed credit for: the good imitate, the great steal.
One other thought. Musicians are often ripped off by record companies, publishers, agents, managers, or promoters. How ironic.
And one more: You know how James Brown sang to "exhaustion", then someone came out and put a cape over him, and he would limp off, and just when he was almost off stage, he threw the cape off, and sang some more? The Monkees stole that. And Bruce Springsteen. Except instead of using a cape, Bruce was taken off on a stretcher.
And again. Jimi Hendrix stole Pete Townsend's smash the gutiar gimmick. Except he set his gutiar on fire first. But Kiss "stole" it too. And Rick Springfield. And God knows how many others. Oh. And let's not forget John Hiatt. Not that he smashes guitars. He wrote a song about it. One of my favorites by him. In it, he tells us how much he hates when all those stars smash perfectly good guitars. And feels they should go to jail without any bail.
And the last one. I hope. Cheap Trick. They stole from the Beatles, and Zeppelin.
Led Zeppelin used a 10 second bass line and used it in stairway and everybody loses their minds and forgets about the other 8 minuets that they created themselves.
If it was just that 1 10 second part that would almost be OK. Didn't you see the whole entire list?? It's also the fact that that band OPENED for Zeppelin. My heartbreak is Johnny Cash!!!! I had NO idea.. I thought he wrote that!!!😠😠😠
i totally understand where your coming from but with a band like zeppelin alot of the stuff they performed were covers of old blues records anyway, because all 4 members shared a love of the blues. everybody needs inspiration, zeppelin just mutilated it and made it their own. in my opinion anyway.
+DominoMorton It's perfectly alright to play blues covers. ( Who hasn't? ) It's also perfectly fine to let other people's work inspire yours. It is, however, not ok to take somebody else's creation, claim YOU created it and then cash in on the publishing. Quite a difference. (Still LOVE Zep, but some of their thefts were ridiculously blatant. Bordering on comical...)
yea i just think its a shame to label thoes 10 seconds as the only part of significance, simply because theres so much more to that particular song than a short descending bass riff. thats all im sayin :P
your welcome to that opinion dude, no one else wants it :P
What doesn't anyone rip off Frank Zappa? ;-}
+Larry Summers why doesnt anyone rip off Frank Stallone
Surprisingly topical. :D
There's no money in it.
Much of Zappa's music was simply too good for most other players.
A lot of The Tragically Hip's "New Orleans Is Sinking" (1989) sounds a lot like Frank Zappa's "Trouble Every Day" (1966).
In fact, most rap songs sound a lot like "Trouble Every Day" without the music.
I simply see it as inspiration of one they look up to. Thus, never forgotten.
"at a combined age of 731 years" that killed me.
The 'moonwalk' is actually a really old dance move - early to mid 20th century if I'm not mistaken . . .
+rictus grin Yea. It was on QI here in the UK. They showed footage.
+rictus grin yes, you're right. there's an old movie of Charlie Caplin, in which he does a "moonwalk" forwards, if I remember well.
+rictus grin The Gap band was rven moonwalking before Jackson
+rictus grin Correct. I believe the first person to have been recorded doing it was tap dancer Bill Bailey, who did it in the 1943 film Cabin In The Sky. They called the move the back slide at the time.
And Michael Jackson was a huge Charlie Chaplin fan. His favorite song was Smile and he recorded a cover of it.
Spirit lost process with Led Zeppelin
Judges found that the songs are not identical.
They just checked the notes and they were not identical, the song itself was not listened to, however.
Mad Pootis
It's a progression A scale! The dumbest lawsuit I've ever heard! It wasn't even the band itself that tried suing them but instead a relative who wanted fucking buckaroos. The songs are completely different either way! Literally the first 3 notes sound similar and that's it! And you want to know why the first 3 notes sound similar anyway!? It's a fucking scale!!!
I always thought this whole MJ/Bob Fosse thing was a reach. Yes, he was inspired by that sequence on the movie (he always talked about that, it is no secret), but to say he stole all the moves of the Billie Jean routine from that is some hater shit, only the pose at the beginning, which MJ does better by the way just like every single move that Fosse did on that video, the stand on the toes is better and different, it's not the same thing at all, Fosse barely get stand on his toes and he didn't invented this, ballet dancers have been standing on their toes since forever, the shimmy walking dancing thing or whatever you wanna called it, is completely different move and Fosse didn't invented, dancers been doing this since the 30"s, the whole playing with the hat, wasn't invented by fosse either, Sammy Davis Jr. used to do that and other dancers before him! and about the moonwalk, Michael never claimed to have invented the move and Jeffrey Daniels who teach him how to do it didn't either, there's footage of black dancers doing this in the 40's, it became a breakdance move, all MJ did was to immortalize it and change the name from back slide to moonwalk!
dude admit Michael stole the ideas man..
dude you don't have to announce you're the editor in chief every single video lol. I know you're proud but really, we get it.
Vanilla Ice ripped off Under Pressure by Queen with Ice Ice Baby.
+R. Andrew Neal that wasnt a rip off lol thats called sampling. They used the bass sample for their song its something rap music does constantly and you cant actual sue for that because Vanilla ice never claimed it to be his and he likely paid to use the sample
+Daniel Pyrah Actually Vanilla Ice denied sampling from Under Pressure until a court ruled that Queen had to be given songwriting credit. It's probably one of the most clear cut music rip-off examples ever.
+Daniel Pyrah there's a hilarious video out there of vanilla ice attempting to reason with an interviewer that they DIDN'T sample under pressure. He actually had the balls to say they didn't sound the same. The video is funny as fuck.
Sounds like he was in denial.
5:35 - 5:38 sexy.
Also, what is that crazy movie/video/thing about the snake dude?
John Smith "The Little Prince"
+Mistress Morrigan Maybe MJ even stole the name when he called himself "The Prince" of pop.
and My Country ‘Tis of Thee” is . “God Save the Queen”
+onemorebrando as inspired as surfin' USA was.
MJ dancing....a wee bit different than stealing melody and words note for note. MJ is the king. Bob Fossey....thank you.
7:30 -- It's a well-known fact that Satan told Jimmy Page to write Stairway To Heaven.
Couldn't stop laughing!
also george thorogood bad to the bone sounds very damn familiar to mannish boy by muddy waters
+Omar Brsli Muddy Waters took it from his friend Bo Diddley's 'I'm a Man'. If you go watch the 'Bad to the Bone' video guess who is in there...Bo Diddley himself. It was undoubtedly with his blessing that the structure and guitar riff were used.
snipehunter1 oh so that must explain everything , thank you dude
your reaching with Michael Jackson dude.......find better subject material
Michael was inspired by that movie lol. He never claimed also to create the moonwalk he just made it popular and lets be honest nobody did it better.
Elvis stole all his song.
Most 70's rock bands stole their music from blacks acts b/ the black acts could not sue.
you can do a whole weekly series about the plot robbery of supposed filmmaker Rent-One Tear-A-Ton-Off and his "genius" work.
Zepplin would surely win that Stairway lawsuit for the simple fact that copying a chord progression is not a form of copyright infringement.