Out of all the videos I've seen last few days , yours is the best detailed 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Excellent , great info Thank you especially getting truck level. Because not every driveway is level
I had to replace a leaking air conditioner condenser. In the process I lost about a pint of transmission fluid (towing package). I searched and searched for the transmission dip stick 🙂 only to learn of this bizarre process that Toyota has employed to make it difficult for the DIY'er. Your video was very helpful ig getting the job done and I didn't spill a drop. Say what you will about EV's but they'll be no gasoline, oil, transmission or coolant fluids to mess with.
NEVER use any kind of thermal imaging gun to check the temperature of these transmissions. It can be way off from the actual trans temp. Great video!!!
@@craigcarter4620 Yes, I bought it with 128K on the clock and the Carfax records ended around 55K. I always replace all fluids when I buy a used vehicle unless it is quite obvious that the fluid is in good condition. My only quantification was actually measuring the amount drained (including what drained with the first level check) and refilling the same amount. When I did the first level check after the drain/fill, it was again two quarts over full which led me to the conclusion that it was over filled when I bought it. I read in the owner's manual (I think) that the total system capacity was around 12 qts, so I stopped removing fluid at about 14 qts, hoping that I got the vast majority out. I have no Idea how long it was overfull, but I'm glad it didn't blow any seals! THE FOLLOWING IS QUOTED FROM ANOTHER REPLY: " I had no idea of the fluid age or condition. This was the last of all of the fluid changes after buying the truck, because it is the most difficult. When I did the first level check, I was about to do the fluid change. The Toyota service guy I talked to told me that the 2 quarts came out because the engine was off and the fluid was not circulating. So, I measured that fluid and what came out when I used the DRAIN plug and I refilled that total amount into the tranny. I changed the fluid by bypassing the tranny thermostat the same as you would for a level check (the bent wire with a loop on the end) and I disconnected the outflow hose (should be the lower fitting) from the tranny cooler in front of the radiator and connected a hose to the outflow fitting. I then ran that hose into a clear gallon container that had markings for each quart. After starting the truck, I would hop out and watch the container fill as the circulating fluid came out of the cooler. When about two quarts had flowed out, I would shut off the engine, measure the result, pour the fluid into a waste container, add that amount of fresh fluid to the tranny and repeat. You don't want the level to get too low. After I had counted about one quart more than the published fluid capacity and refilled that amount, I finished up. That's when I did the first running at temperature level check and had the two quart overfull result again. That's why I repeated the level check and made the video. There are videos showing much of this on TH-cam." I hope this helped. Steve.
On my 2012 Tundra 4.7 with trans cooler, starting with a cool engine in temp check mode, from the time the "D" came on till it starting flashing was 3 minutes and 15 seconds. Ambient temp was in the mid 80's. That would give me 3 minutes to check the fluid level. 🙂
Works the same at the dealer, except they have better equipment and probably don't care if the temp is correct. Some will do it cold and call it done. Just like shops that do a valve check and adjust on a warm engine for time constraints. Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Seeing it make me glad I took my 03 Tundra to the dealer and let them hook it up to the flush/fill machine. 160 bucks, took them two hour and I'm done
If they actually did it right, you're lucky. Do you live in the midwest? The local dealer I asked about the service in California quoted two prices, one with Toyota WS fluid and one with an aftermarket brand and the DIFFERENCE was about what you paid. Watching this video doesn't depict what the DIY service would have been like with yours. Drain, fill, run, repeat a few times and you have a DIPSTICK to confirm the level which would make the service 90% easier! Plus, I doubt Toyota requires WS fluid for your year which would make the fluid much cheaper as well with many more aftermarket choices easily available.
I went and picked up 5 quarts of fluid at the dealer today, but before I purchased I though what the heck let me ask about what a drain and fill would run. Are you ready for this, .....$499, I said no I just want the 4 quart drain and refill not the flush, they said no thats the price, the flush is $599, made no sense, since the flush would require a total of like 12 quarts, some things at the dealer make no sense. completing the drain and fill tomorrow, see how it goes.
@@1027gracie $230 for a drain and fill at the dealer here in CA . Trying to get any information on how to do this service out of the dealer is a no go. This video rocks ✊
Steve- great thorough and detailed video, super helpful. I will be checking my level as I inadvertently brain farted when I attempted to check it and unplugged the drain, doh!!! I think I drained about a quart and a half, which has me freaking out about driving until I get this squared away.
If it's not too late, measure what came out and add that amount plus another quart of fresh fluid. Then you can do the level check procedure, if you have the one for your vehicle, and you should be good to go.
@@stevemullens7937 thank you Steve- unfortunately it drained into a contaminated container. I am going to add 2 quarts and do the the level check, Gotta get out and get the funnel and hose and wait for rain to stop.
@@1027gracie Once the level check has been done with only fresh fluid added ( I guess that wasn't clear in my first reply ), a lot of people just drain the pan, measure what came out and refill that amount of fresh fluid at their desired mileage interval. Maybe 15-30K. That way at least some of the fluid is periodically refreshed.
@@stevemullens7937 Thanks, I think I plan on doing the pan drain and fill "service" which if my research is correct, should be 4 quarts as this is what the pan holds, however because of what I lost with my goof up, I anticipate I will need more than the 4 quarts, more like 4.5 -5 quarts possibly more and then conduct the level check procedure, add as needed. I found Toyota atf ws under 10 bucks, so I will pick up 5 and see how this goes. What do you think?
Great video, thanks! It's insane that this entire complicated procedure had to be invented all because they are too cheap to put a dipstick on a transmission anymore.
@@stevemullens7937 question the fluid level is off but it still drives fine is there a way I can drive it up the road to warm the trans up then go under the truck push the pin for thermo. And pull excess plug?
@@o2median253 You could do that, but Toyota says that the temperature of the fluid has to be within a certain range because of fluid expansion/contraction with temperature changes. You may want to consider following their instructions if you can find them for your particular transmission and year. Good luck.
hay a quick tip, use a laser temp reader from harbor fright (20$) and laser the pan its with in a few deg of the Toyota shop computer reading (I have a Toyota mechanic as a friend) the mechanic loved the laser temp check idea, now thats how he does it at the dealer, just saying, easy, fast, no problem, also I just drive my tundra and 4runner around the block to worm them to 100deg, KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid, good luck Steve
The laser temp check idea was NOT mine! It is very unreliable, just try one on just about any surface. Change the color, angle of incidence or even the sheen and your reading will swing quite a bit. Your friend (apparently a Toyota dealership employee) and my experiences with dealerships not following fluid and temperature requirements (think valve adjustment on a still warm engine), is why I do as much of my own maintenance and repairs as I can. I used the Valvoline Max Life fluid because they have been in the industry almost 100 years longer than Toyota has been exporting cars and if they say their fluid meets WS requirements, I believe them. If Toyota says the fluid has to be within an acceptable range of temperature, I will try to make it happen. Following Toyota's alternate instructions with the paper clip, hopefully worked. Of course, all of this worry about fluid level precision is predicated on the necessity of the fluid level NEEDING to be so near perfect. As stated in the video, I'm not sure the perfect level is THAT important, but why risk it? It seemed to work fine overfull, but from what I've read, damage can result.
@@stevemullens7937, My competent Toyota dealer ship friend did a series of comparisons between the laser temp and the Toyota computer and found them to be VERY comparable and reliable also the level IS very critical (the temp is a critical part of the level as the temp effects the total fluid expansion and fluid level) I tried leaving a 1/2 court extra in my 4runner and it had a small issue with shifting, my friend confirmed the level would fix that and it did, I too use the Valvoline max life WS (Toyota fluid is 10$ a quart), the Valvoline is great with out problem both in my 13 4runner and 10 Tundra, I try to keep a open mind, test and verifying, and do all my own work also at 70 years of age, good luck out there Steve.
@@richw1907 I suppose that if you have access to the Toyota systems which will tell the temperature of the fluid, you can try changing the settings for the laser thermometer and find an exact location on the pan to match the temperature reading from the computer. Maybe that can be repeated reliably in a temperature controlled shop after checking the same on various models of transmission. My experience with a laser thermometer is that I can point it at a thermally stable object and get about a 10 degree swing in result by the angle of incidence slightly changing or a difference in cleanliness on the surface. I doubt I'll ever do this service again, so for me, the point is moot. I'm glad that someone who cares about doing something the best way you can agrees on my fluid choice. Thanks for the reply!
I have 150 k on mine called the dealership I got it from to swap the fluid, clean the filter they said almost 500 bucks . Like many others on here I hate no dip stick, people complain tundra is low tech well im glad it is ,could you imagine this same thing on a new 2020 hell .
Similar situation here. I changed mine at about 130K. I don't use it that much and there is no history of that service ever on the truck which I bought used. No problems at all. Didn't do a video on the change but there are a few. Good luck.
Thanks for the comments and for watching. As for the hand pumps, when you change the entire capacity of fluid in the 2014 with tow package, you fill about 13 quarts. That would take all day with a little quart bottle hand pump. Next, on the '06 and '08 Tundras, they have a dipstick which is also the fill tube, so the job is MUCH easier. Using an infrared thermometer on the outside of the pan is a very inaccurate way to check the temperature of the fluid. The sensors used by the method I demonstrate are not attached to the pan and Toyota seems to think that the precise temperature range is very important. I doubt it is that important evidenced by the normal function with about 2 quarts too much fluid in the tranny when I bought it. I know over filling can damage a transmission and the seals, but really does the temperature HAVE TO BE that precise? Why not just do a cold temperature, engine off, level ground check with a dipstick or a different overflow port? As for the washers, I did use new the first time, but since I had that level anomaly, and felt the need to re-check the level, I didn't want to make another trip to the Toyota dealer for a washer which is the same after re-installation as it is after installation, again, that is personal belief/preference/experience.
The 2008 Tundra only has a dipstick with the 5 speed automatic, the A750 which is what the 4.7 liter engine comes equipped with. On the AB60 6 speed which comes with the 5.7 liter engine, it doesn’t have a dipstick.
Hey in your Video you said I hope that engine Noise is normal i bought it used well the thin weight of the oil in the engine being 0w20. So I Add two quarts of synthetic Lucas when changing my engine oil and it makes a difference definitely Quiets it up some, And I have been using Lucas Additives in everything I've owned for the past 20 years 🙂👍and I love it.
My worry about additives that quiet an engine is that they may increase viscosity. With the variable valve timing, I wouldn't want to affect the system. I like the idea of thicker oil in general. My wife has a 2019 Rav 4 and it uses 0W16 oil, this thin oil tech is getting a little concerning for me. It seems to me that the usual viscosity breakdown in used oil might get pretty precarious if it starts at such a low level and only thins from there. It's all to squeeze a millionth of a MPG out of a vehicle to meet federal fleet mpg standards. If the Lucas additives work for you, that's great, but I think I'll live with what I have, besides, the sound diminishes after it's good and warm.
@@stevemullens7937 I Understand your Concern about the VVT , The Synthetic Lucas is designed specifically for the lower weight oils doesn't affect how my Engine runs in fact it sounds better. It is much thinner than the original Lucas This isn't a sales pitch for Lucas I'm just speaking from experience. Add one quart with your next oil change (not over filling with oil Run the correct oil level) i promise you will not be disappointed . My truck looks good and I Use it too I haul around 5,000 to 6,000lbs hundreds of miles at a time, yes my MPG is not that great when towing , driving mostly empty My MPG is the same with or with out Lucas to each his own I guess have a good day buddy.
I saw a video where someone replaced the filter and had a few of the pan mounting bolts break in the process which caused him much grief! I didn't want to risk a similar experience.
I’m no expert but I’ve read this procedure when I had to do my company’s 06 and 08 Tundras and a BMW 3 series and I just did it the old fashioned way. First I found out the correct fluid capacity when you pull the drain plug. 06 my 08 and 2014 Tundras show 3.2 -3.5 quarts. Second find out the correct fluid temperature. I believe it was around 130-150 degrees. I simply pull the drain plug and drain. Then add like 2 quarts and start the truck and shift through the gears and then go back and add the other 1.2 -1.5 Quarts and measure the oil temp with a inferred temperature gun and make sure the temp is correct then watch for the correct overflow drain. My Tundras and BMW run Great and for me “Very” Simple job... Hope this helps everyone. PS. I Always replace the crush washers. Very inexpensive and guaranteed no leaks. My first 06 Tundra job leaked so I always replace them now..
@@stevemullens7937😂😂😂she has realy a great husband. My car is lc200 I use ir gun and also make a conection between pin 4 and 13 in obd2 Ir gun gives exsact result
I'll be doing this soon at the end of the summer. I have a OBD II scanner that gives me AT2 temperature. I was planning on just doing that with all accessories off. I was worried I should put it in check mode for idel speed so the pressure is right. Did you notice any idle speed difference in check mode than normal? It would be a lot easier to use my OBD II scanner cause its wireless to my phone.
DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE SOUND OF THE ENGINE SOUNDS LIKE MY 2008 TUNDRA. I AM FROM VERY COLD CLIMATE THAT SOUND IS NOTHING, TRY STARTING IN -25F WILL SOUND LIKE A DIESEL.
Why would I do that? There are several WS (World Standard) fluids on the market and the standard isn't only for Toyota vehicles, hence the name. Toyota doesn't make the fluid. The local Toyota dealer offers an aftermarket option for a non-Toyota BRANDED fluid for much less money. Why would they offer that if it is bad for the transmission? Would it take so long to cause damage that they could escape liability? As I stated in the video, Valvoline has been making petroleum products about 70 years longer than Toyota has been making cars. If Valvoline declares that their product meets a standard, I believe them. Some less reputable brand would not be my choice.
I’ve watched a few of these videos and there’s one thing I don’t understand.It would be more helpful to tell us how much fluid you ended up using.If we know this,approximately ,we’ll know how many quarts to buy and how much to put in at the start.There would be no need for the rest of us to go through the trouble of measuring what was drained out if we had this information.We’re going to check it at the end anyway with the level plug.
I bought enough, 4 gallons of Valvoline Max Life fluid, to do the claimed 13 (ish) quart capacity of my model (5.7L with 4x4 and cooler). Other models have a different capacity. As I stated in the video, on my first check attempt, 2 quarts came out and just in case it WAS my mistake, I replaced that fluid while doing the change. After the change, when I checked the level, 2 quarts drained out again, so I knew that it was probably overfilled by a certified mechanic. The previous owner used the dealer for all maintenance to a certain mileage. I did the check again in this video to reconfirm the level. I didn't do a video for the fluid change because I didn't want to get too busy with the video and screw up the change. I'm not the best multi tasker and I don't have any potential assistant willing to help. If you want to pay Toyota prices for fluid made to the same standard, feel free, but the Valvoline is WS and that is a multi manufacturer standard, not a Toyota standard alone. Hence the name World Standard. When in stock, Walmart sells the Valvoline for around $20/gal ($17 when I bought it) and it's full synthetic. One last thing, buy a few extra quarts, or a gallon, just in case of a spill, etc. Any unused, sealed containers can be returned for a refund.
When I got my 14 tundra I was very suspicious of the engine clatter noise. Going through tech videos, forums and eavesdropping other tundras I encountered though I soon figured it was typical. They're just noisy.
How long did it take for D light to come on? Because once you figure that out you wouldn’t need to do the paper clip anymore right? You could just wait however many minutes right? Or no?
The time would depend upon what the ATF temperature was when the procedure started. Also the ambient temperature where you were performing the service. I found when I did the work that the temp got there pretty quick and also passed the threshold pretty quick as well. The paper clip is used to bypass the thermal valve which opens to let fluid flow to the transmission cooler. If you don't bypass that, you won't have all of the fluid near the same temperature, so your level might be effected. I think that answers your questions, read on, if you like. While Toyota designed this procedure for fluid level precision, I don't personally think it is THAT critical! See the video and my complaint that the fluid level was about a quart over full before I even started the service (see last three sentences). There were no signs of negative effects while driving. HOWEVER, there are many people that say an overfull transmission can cause blown seals and that could be a very expensive problem! That is why I did the service anyway. I bought the truck used and the service history stopped 75K miles before my purchase. Plus, from my personal experience, I don't trust most professional mechanics to do the job correctly, if at all. Too many horror stories out there! Essentially, if I can do a job on any of my vehicles, I will.
Steve, Great Video 👍. I purchased my truck new. A 2012 4.6 currently has 55,000+ miles, barely drive it. I’d like to check the factory fill to make sure it’s correct. Your thoughts? Was your factory fill low after doing all your calculations? Should I bother? Or just simply drain ( cold ), measure and refill and be done?
Steve, From what you stated in the beginning of the video ( unless I understood wrong ) I believe yours initially was 2 quarts over full because you pulled the overfill with the vehicle either cold and not running, or not to operating temp, meaning that that thermostat didn’t open and suck up some fluid into the trans cooler. Correct me if I’m wrong. Anyhow I’m going to tackle this fluid change today. I’ll check my inbox before starting, hopefully I hear back from you on your thoughts of what I should do about previous questions.
@@Mr.Beastforpresident Love your handle ;-). I did this service because the most recent service records Carfax had when I bought the truck were 75K miles old! I had no idea of the fluid age or condition. This was the last of all of the fluid changes after buying the truck, because it is the most difficult. When I did the first level check, I was about to do the fluid change. The Toyota service guy I talked to told me that the 2 quarts came out because the engine was off and the fluid was not circulating. So, I measured that fluid and what came out when I used the DRAIN plug and I refilled that total amount into the tranny. I changed the fluid by bypassing the tranny thermostat the same as you would for a level check (the bent wire with a loop on the end) and I disconnected the outflow hose (should be the lower fitting) from the tranny cooler in front of the radiator and connected a hose to the outflow fitting. I then ran that hose into a clear gallon container that had markings for each quart. After starting the truck, I would hop out and watch the container fill as the circulating fluid came out of the cooler. When about two quarts had flowed out, I would shut off the engine, measure the result, pour the fluid into a waste container, add that amount of fresh fluid to the tranny and repeat. You don't want the level to get too low. After I had counted about one quart more than the published fluid capacity and refilled that amount, I finished up. That's when I did the first running at temperature level check and had the two quart overfull result again. That's why I repeated the level check and made the video. There are videos showing much of this on TH-cam. I believe that either size paper clip will work. If the larger one fits too tight, switch to the smaller. I know that some owners who are confident in their tranny fluid level, just drain their tranny pan and refill an equal amount to freshen the fluid every 30K miles or so. Realistically that is changing about one quarter to one third of the capacity of mine. Of course, that is MUCH better than believing that the tranny is "sealed" with lifetime fluid! If you watch to the end of the video, you will see that my truck was nearly perfectly level on the ramps while facing down my sloped driveway which made the job much easier than slithering under several times with the engine running on level ground. It would take a jumbo jack and stands to raise it on all corners. You might want to try to find the specific procedure for your year of Tundra, it may be different from mine and some models have the fill plug in a different location. Good luck, and I hope I covered it all!
Steve Mullens Thanks... I found the fill plug the long time consuming way lol, my fill plug is on the rear near the output shaft on the passenger side. I keep looking through the drivers side wheel well and then crawled underneath and kept looking for it on bell housing on the drivers side where yours is. I bet techs pull that prank on Newbies working on the Tundra with the 4.6. It seems you’re meticulous, near meticulous as me. So I’ll share something’s you may want to know. While not condemning your choice on fluid, I thought I would share some facts not opinions that you may appreciate knowing if you want to make your Tundra lasts as long as possible reliably. What makes a Toyota a Toyota, is the quality in which it’s made and the parts in which it’s made of. All fluids, filters and oils are not equal. You can see this for yourself by running Genuine Toyota oil for 9,000 miles then switch it to another brand of your choice and notice how the engine idles and compare how much louder the engine/Valvetrain is versus Genuine Toyota oil. I can post link to a video that’ll save you the money unless you really want to see for yourself. Just like all tires aren’t equal. It’s not that Valvoline isn’t a bad trans fluid it’s just not as good for maximizing the long-term reliability of a Toyota. The quality in Genuine Toyota quality can be ( easier seen ) in holding and examining an actual part, as in a filter or Alternator. While some parts as-in a Non-Toyota oil filter may appear to be better, I can assure you and gladly explain in detail with absolute certainty they are not. The two 1 Millon Mile Tundras reaches 1 Million, by several factors. They did Maintenance on time, done right and with Genuine Toyota parts and lastly the way those particular engines ( Timing Belt ) engines were engineered, tried and true for years. Current ones have timing chains, the long term reliability has yet to be determined. There is Counterfeit Toyota Parts out there on the internet. I would be happy to share the link to videos. Lexus is made by Toyota. This is what sets Lexus apart from any other ( production ) gas engine and automobile manufacturer in the world. ***See videos below*** ( No ) other production engine manufacture holds a candle to their engine quality and building processes. Not Rolls Royce, not Mercedes, not Infinity, not Audi, not Porsche etc etc... the only other gas ( street legal engines ) with equal quality, engineering and extreme attention to quality building processes, quality parts and extreme tolerances and literally perfectly balanced internals-> Silk smooth idle
Greetings Steve! !😎 Very well explain video you just make toyota stealerships going broke they coute me 400 dlrs for trans fluid flush! I love my Tundra alot has 70k miles on the clock so is time to service my Toy what an easy job anyone can do it at home. The question is the transmission should be level or the oil pan has to be bcs my oil pan it's sloped.
Great video Steve, I just brought a 2019 Tundra TRD PRO same color as yours, love most of everything about it until finding out this news out:( Beside the lack of trans cooler how do you like your new 2019 TRD Pro???
hey Steve- ive probably added a hundred views to the view count today, preparing to do this tomorrow, anyhow I noticed there is something leaking on the drivers side of the truck at about 15:35 mark, was this the fill plug fluid leaking out of the plug and hose?
It has been nearly two years since I did this service (and still no problems), but I think that some fluid spilled on the side of the tranny when I pulled the fill hose out and it ran down and dripped where you, and likely others saw it or fluid might have splashed up on the hose internally and it worked its way out then dripped. I can't remember which. And sorry about the comment at 16:20 . I had no one in particular in mind when I said it! Good luck with your service.
I have a PDF file that I found on some website several months ago, but I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to get it to you. I did slowly cover the instructions I had near the end of the video and that was for a 2014 & 2015 Tundra (maybe others) with tow pkg. You might want to research online to see if you can find a downloadable file. I think I found it through Tundratalk.net or Tundras .com. Good luck.
I finally got around to finding the onine .pdf file that I used. The link is in the description above. The thread I found it in has a link to THIS video and describes it aptly as "tedious and long" I can't say that I disagree! Hopefully, you found the info you needed if you already did the service. You need to be a Tundras.com member to download the file. The link is also here: www.tundras.com/threads/gen-3-transmission-fluid-level-check-temperature-range.18359/
When doing a pan drain/fill is it ok to leave the hose in the fill hole throughout the procedure or does it need to be removed while the truck is running? If left in could this cause some damage or atf splashing out? I'm assuming it's only in the hole a couple inches? Thanks for the video.👍
In my experience, the hose doesn't contact moving parts and if the same size and type is used, the fit is tight enough that very little if any fluid will escape, so I left it in place until the level was correct.
Doesn't that have a dipstick/filler tube? I'm sure you can find SOMETHING to tell you how to do that service. You can probably find a service manual for that vehicle, unlike most newer vehicles that have no hard copy service manuals available. Good luck.
@@DinhNguyen-od7qn I can't say if the service on your 4Runner is even remotely the same. Haynes makes a manual that is supposed to cover your vehicle, you should either get one for reference or pay Toyota to do the service.
Hey Steve, I just had a transmission service (flush) done today from Toyota. I drove a few miles home and heard a relay chatter sound coming from the area and saw that the tech left the pin in the thermostat. Could this have caused any damage? I brought it back and they removed it and were very apologetic..
The pin opens the thermostatic valve to allow fluid to pass through to the transmission oil cooler. No real damage in my opinion, just a slower warmup. This is from memory, but I think it's accurate.
Thank you for making and posting this video. I didn’t understand the need to keep the thermostat button pressed. Is it a requirement for the bridging on the OBD port to work as intended for the temperature check, or is it just to bring the transmission to temperature faster, or is it something else? The transmission is going to come up to temperature sooner or later, no? TIA
Maxwell Smart I believe bypassing the thermostat allows the fluid to flow through the cooler and the entire tranny. So that helps when your doing a fluid exchange. Draining and refilling I don’t think it has anything to do with bringing the temp up faster
In my case, the driveway was the only option and most subdivision driveways are sloped. As you can see in the video, I had to raise the downhill end about 6 inches to approximate level. My assumption would be that a shop lift would be about level when installed in the garage and negate the need to level the vehicle. But one point that I barely made in the video is that the check plug location in about in the middle of the pan lengthwise. At this point, if the pan is tilted front to back some while the engine is running, the level would likely be just about the same because the middle would be about at that level any way. I just wanted to make sure I did the best job I could.
I would guess that either you didn't do the procedure right ( I've seen it done a little differently on youtube and still work), your truck isn't one that the procedure works on, or you put the paper clip in the wrong place. Hopefully you didn't do the latter, I would assume that bridging the wrong contacts MAY cause damage. Pause the video near the end and look closely at the diagram of the OBD II connector and which two contacts to bridge and make sure the diagram is oriented top to bottom the same way as your own connector. Good luck.
The test worked on my 2011 tundra but I don't believe it to be accurate temperature. It showed D on immediately and I test temp with infrared thermoter it only showed 92
The IR thermometer method is inaccurate for this purpose. Remember, the surface exposed to air is cooling or warming depending on ambient temperature and the thermometer has to be set correctly for the reflectivity of the material. Additionally, the 2011 may be set to check at a lower temp from my year. These details and insufficient info available online are part of the reason that it took me a couple of months before I was confident enough to try this (fluid change ((no video)) and level check) on my own! Don't forget to level your truck, see last 5 mins of video. Good luck.
@@stevemullens7937 thanks yes I will make sure it's level and thank you for the informative video. I went to my Toyota dealership and talked with service tech. He told me between 120 and 130
It's probably similar. Some people, assuming you're confident that the current level is good, will drain the pan cold and refill with an equal amount of cold fluid. Some will do it two or three times to gradually dilute the old fluid with new. They drive the truck and let it cool between drain/fills. Good luck finding the info you need. I don't know where to find it. I no longer even own the truck! - - -I just checked my files and I have the 2007 procedure in .pdf format, BUT it doesn't show the paperclip technique, so I don't know if it would work on your year. The rest of the procedure seemed the same. The temps are between 115 and 133℉. I would send it to you, but I don't have your email and I'm not terribly tech savvy.
As far as I know, the 2006 still had a dipstick. Checking and filling are so much easier! You just need to find the procedure for your tranny and follow the instructions. I kind of envy you.
@@litoskid2754 I was under the impression that '08 was the first year of "sealed" Tundra transmissions. I watched this video and it's pretty similar th-cam.com/video/kkrSZ26uKm8/w-d-xo.html You should check online for info specific to your year and model. Luckily for you, you can buy shop manuals for your year. Have fun.
I had no unusual effects from this service. Did you put the paperclip in the places noted in the written instructions? If not, you may need to check your fuses and if that fails, go to the dealer or a mechanic who works on Toyotas and get a reset on your computer or something to that effect.
@@stevemullens7937 yep i kinda put the paper clip in the wrong pins before doing in the right ones. Checked all the fuses in the cabin and engine bay, they all are ok. Hope i didnt fried sensors or ecu.
What a pain in the ass! They couldn't just add a dipstick? I have a 2012 tundra and I thought about doing this myself but I don't think I have enough patience to even attempt it.
I would have to agree! I and people I know have had issues with "professional" mechanics not doing something correctly, so it is my personal plan to do as much of my maintenance as I can possibly do with confidence. Additionally, I saved $3-400 by doing it myself and I know that the instructions were followed to the letter. Good luck with your choice.
If you watch the entire admittedly lengthy, video, you would see that the front of my truck was on the down SLOPE of my driveway and the ramps made my truck nearly perfectly level. There is even a formula in the video to calculate the appropriate height of the ramps (hence the 2x6 boards on the bottom). They also allowed me to shimmy under the truck much more easily than parking on level ground without stands of any kind. I already did that when I changed all of my fluids in the transfer case and the differentials and it was quite tight! I wouldn't want to do that with the truck running. Thanks for watching.
Some people are willing and some aren't. I casually searched for weeks to find enough information to tackle this job with relative confidence. Many DIY people believe that Toyota designed this system not to be precise, but to get more people to use their shops.
My dealer told me to use pin 4 and 13 as well for the 2016 thru 2021 model Tundras However I don't have pin 13. I have 14, 15, 16. Which one do I jump with pin 4. Also what does TC STAND FOR ON YOUR PIN 13?
It seems that the pan should be sloped rearward to assist in drainage, but I really don't know. I would guess that if your truck has no shell over the bed, you could just use the sides of the bed to check level. Mine was covered. It's been over three years since I did this service and I can't look at the truck because I no longer own it! Didn't need it anymore. Good luck.
Out of all the videos I've seen last few days , yours is the best detailed 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Excellent , great info
Thank you especially getting truck level. Because not every driveway is level
Thanks! Hopefully your work turns goes smoothly.
I had to replace a leaking air conditioner condenser. In the process I lost about a pint of transmission fluid (towing package). I searched and searched for the transmission dip stick 🙂 only to learn of this bizarre process that Toyota has employed to make it difficult for the DIY'er. Your video was very helpful ig getting the job done and I didn't spill a drop. Say what you will about EV's but they'll be no gasoline, oil, transmission or coolant fluids to mess with.
I'm glad to help.
NEVER use any kind of thermal imaging gun to check the temperature of these transmissions. It can be way off from the actual trans temp. Great video!!!
That is essentially what I stated in a reply somewhere in the comments. Thanks for the compliment.
Did you buy the truck used? Where you able to quantify the fact that it was overfilled?
@@craigcarter4620 Yes, I bought it with 128K on the clock and the Carfax records ended around 55K. I always replace all fluids when I buy a used vehicle unless it is quite obvious that the fluid is in good condition. My only quantification was actually measuring the amount drained (including what drained with the first level check) and refilling the same amount. When I did the first level check after the drain/fill, it was again two quarts over full which led me to the conclusion that it was over filled when I bought it. I read in the owner's manual (I think) that the total system capacity was around 12 qts, so I stopped removing fluid at about 14 qts, hoping that I got the vast majority out. I have no Idea how long it was overfull, but I'm glad it didn't blow any seals!
THE FOLLOWING IS QUOTED FROM ANOTHER REPLY:
" I had no idea of the fluid age or condition. This was the last of all of the fluid changes after buying the truck, because it is the most difficult. When I did the first level check, I was about to do the fluid change. The Toyota service guy I talked to told me that the 2 quarts came out because the engine was off and the fluid was not circulating. So, I measured that fluid and what came out when I used the DRAIN plug and I refilled that total amount into the tranny. I changed the fluid by bypassing the tranny thermostat the same as you would for a level check (the bent wire with a loop on the end) and I disconnected the outflow hose (should be the lower fitting) from the tranny cooler in front of the radiator and connected a hose to the outflow fitting. I then ran that hose into a clear gallon container that had markings for each quart. After starting the truck, I would hop out and watch the container fill as the circulating fluid came out of the cooler. When about two quarts had flowed out, I would shut off the engine, measure the result, pour the fluid into a waste container, add that amount of fresh fluid to the tranny and repeat. You don't want the level to get too low. After I had counted about one quart more than the published fluid capacity and refilled that amount, I finished up. That's when I did the first running at temperature level check and had the two quart overfull result again. That's why I repeated the level check and made the video. There are videos showing much of this on TH-cam."
I hope this helped. Steve.
On my 2012 Tundra 4.7 with trans cooler, starting with a cool engine in temp check mode, from the time the "D" came on till it starting flashing was 3 minutes and 15 seconds. Ambient temp was in the mid 80's. That would give me 3 minutes to check the fluid level. 🙂
Works the same at the dealer, except they have better equipment and probably don't care if the temp is correct. Some will do it cold and call it done. Just like shops that do a valve check and adjust on a warm engine for time constraints. Good luck!
Legit I'm literally doing this all today 2012 with 120k miles
Thanks for the video. Seeing it make me glad I took my 03 Tundra to the dealer and let them hook it up to the flush/fill machine.
160 bucks, took them two hour and I'm done
If they actually did it right, you're lucky. Do you live in the midwest? The local dealer I asked about the service in California quoted two prices, one with Toyota WS fluid and one with an aftermarket brand and the DIFFERENCE was about what you paid. Watching this video doesn't depict what the DIY service would have been like with yours. Drain, fill, run, repeat a few times and you have a DIPSTICK to confirm the level which would make the service 90% easier! Plus, I doubt Toyota requires WS fluid for your year which would make the fluid much cheaper as well with many more aftermarket choices easily available.
I went and picked up 5 quarts of fluid at the dealer today, but before I purchased I though what the heck let me ask about what a drain and fill would run. Are you ready for this, .....$499, I said no I just want the 4 quart drain and refill not the flush, they said no thats the price, the flush is $599, made no sense, since the flush would require a total of like 12 quarts, some things at the dealer make no sense. completing the drain and fill tomorrow, see how it goes.
@@1027gracie $230 for a drain and fill at the dealer here in CA . Trying to get any information on how to do this service out of the dealer is a no go. This video rocks ✊
Great in depth video. I was hesitant to try this myself. This vid and your tips have inspired enough confidence in me to try it. Thanks
Glad to see that I could help.
Steve- great thorough and detailed video, super helpful. I will be checking my level as I inadvertently brain farted when I attempted to check it and unplugged the drain, doh!!! I think I drained about a quart and a half, which has me freaking out about driving until I get this squared away.
If it's not too late, measure what came out and add that amount plus another quart of fresh fluid. Then you can do the level check procedure, if you have the one for your vehicle, and you should be good to go.
@@stevemullens7937 thank you Steve- unfortunately it drained into a contaminated container. I am going to add 2 quarts and do the the level check, Gotta get out and get the funnel and hose and wait for rain to stop.
@@1027gracie Once the level check has been done with only fresh fluid added ( I guess that wasn't clear in my first reply ), a lot of people just drain the pan, measure what came out and refill that amount of fresh fluid at their desired mileage interval. Maybe 15-30K. That way at least some of the fluid is periodically refreshed.
@@stevemullens7937 Thanks, I think I plan on doing the pan drain and fill "service" which if my research is correct, should be 4 quarts as this is what the pan holds, however because of what I lost with my goof up, I anticipate I will need more than the 4 quarts, more like 4.5 -5 quarts possibly more and then conduct the level check procedure, add as needed. I found Toyota atf ws under 10 bucks, so I will pick up 5 and see how this goes. What do you think?
This is a great video for me. I'm planning to change tran- fluid soon.
Great! I hope this video helps. Be sure that the info linked in the description applies to your truck. Have fun.
Great video, thanks! It's insane that this entire complicated procedure had to be invented all because they are too cheap to put a dipstick on a transmission anymore.
After doing this, I was tempted to look into making one! What a hassle.
@@stevemullens7937 Lol same here! I have the 4.0 Tundra and want to check if there is clearance to route one.
@@saintsfan7991 what type of transmission oil did you put in the 4.0?
Thank you you are a very thorough. And I appreciate your due diligence.
Thanks for the compliment! Good luck.
@@stevemullens7937 question the fluid level is off but it still drives fine is there a way I can drive it up the road to warm the trans up then go under the truck push the pin for thermo. And pull excess plug?
@@o2median253 You could do that, but Toyota says that the temperature of the fluid has to be within a certain range because of fluid expansion/contraction with temperature changes. You may want to consider following their instructions if you can find them for your particular transmission and year. Good luck.
hay a quick tip, use a laser temp reader from harbor fright (20$) and laser the pan its with in a few deg of the Toyota shop computer reading (I have a Toyota mechanic as a friend) the mechanic loved the laser temp check idea, now thats how he does it at the dealer, just saying, easy, fast, no problem, also I just drive my tundra and 4runner around the block to worm them to 100deg, KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid, good luck Steve
The laser temp check idea was NOT mine! It is very unreliable, just try one on just about any surface. Change the color, angle of incidence or even the sheen and your reading will swing quite a bit. Your friend (apparently a Toyota dealership employee) and my experiences with dealerships not following fluid and temperature requirements (think valve adjustment on a still warm engine), is why I do as much of my own maintenance and repairs as I can. I used the Valvoline Max Life fluid because they have been in the industry almost 100 years longer than Toyota has been exporting cars and if they say their fluid meets WS requirements, I believe them. If Toyota says the fluid has to be within an acceptable range of temperature, I will try to make it happen. Following Toyota's alternate instructions with the paper clip, hopefully worked. Of course, all of this worry about fluid level precision is predicated on the necessity of the fluid level NEEDING to be so near perfect. As stated in the video, I'm not sure the perfect level is THAT important, but why risk it? It seemed to work fine overfull, but from what I've read, damage can result.
@@stevemullens7937, My competent Toyota dealer ship friend did a series of comparisons between the laser temp and the Toyota computer and found them to be VERY comparable and reliable also the level IS very critical (the temp is a critical part of the level as the temp effects the total fluid expansion and fluid level) I tried leaving a 1/2 court extra in my 4runner and it had a small issue with shifting, my friend confirmed the level would fix that and it did, I too use the Valvoline max life WS (Toyota fluid is 10$ a quart), the Valvoline is great with out problem both in my 13 4runner and 10 Tundra, I try to keep a open mind, test and verifying, and do all my own work also at 70 years of age, good luck out there Steve.
@@richw1907 I suppose that if you have access to the Toyota systems which will tell the temperature of the fluid, you can try changing the settings for the laser thermometer and find an exact location on the pan to match the temperature reading from the computer. Maybe that can be repeated reliably in a temperature controlled shop after checking the same on various models of transmission. My experience with a laser thermometer is that I can point it at a thermally stable object and get about a 10 degree swing in result by the angle of incidence slightly changing or a difference in cleanliness on the surface. I doubt I'll ever do this service again, so for me, the point is moot. I'm glad that someone who cares about doing something the best way you can agrees on my fluid choice. Thanks for the reply!
@@stevemullens7937 did it drain your happiness a bit. So, would you be going to the dealer for future oil changes?
Thanks so much this will be my project for today
I have 150 k on mine called the dealership I got it from to swap the fluid, clean the filter they said almost 500 bucks . Like many others on here I hate no dip stick, people complain tundra is low tech well im glad it is ,could you imagine this same thing on a new 2020 hell .
Similar situation here. I changed mine at about 130K. I don't use it that much and there is no history of that service ever on the truck which I bought used. No problems at all. Didn't do a video on the change but there are a few. Good luck.
Thanks for the comments and for watching. As for the hand pumps, when you change the entire capacity of fluid in the 2014 with tow package, you fill about 13 quarts. That would take all day with a little quart bottle hand pump. Next, on the '06 and '08 Tundras, they have a dipstick which is also the fill tube, so the job is MUCH easier. Using an infrared thermometer on the outside of the pan is a very inaccurate way to check the temperature of the fluid. The sensors used by the method I demonstrate are not attached to the pan and Toyota seems to think that the precise temperature range is very important. I doubt it is that important evidenced by the normal function with about 2 quarts too much fluid in the tranny when I bought it. I know over filling can damage a transmission and the seals, but really does the temperature HAVE TO BE that precise? Why not just do a cold temperature, engine off, level ground check with a dipstick or a different overflow port? As for the washers, I did use new the first time, but since I had that level anomaly, and felt the need to re-check the level, I didn't want to make another trip to the Toyota dealer for a washer which is the same after re-installation as it is after installation, again, that is personal belief/preference/experience.
The 2008 Tundra only has a dipstick with the 5 speed automatic, the A750 which is what the 4.7 liter engine comes equipped with. On the AB60 6 speed which comes with the 5.7 liter engine, it doesn’t have a dipstick.
@@rrhistorian8828 Thanks for the info.
Hey in your Video you said I hope that engine Noise is normal i bought it used well the thin weight of the oil in the engine being 0w20. So I Add two quarts of synthetic Lucas when changing my engine oil and it makes a difference definitely Quiets it up some, And I have been using Lucas Additives in everything I've owned for the past 20 years 🙂👍and I love it.
My worry about additives that quiet an engine is that they may increase viscosity. With the variable valve timing, I wouldn't want to affect the system. I like the idea of thicker oil in general. My wife has a 2019 Rav 4 and it uses 0W16 oil, this thin oil tech is getting a little concerning for me. It seems to me that the usual viscosity breakdown in used oil might get pretty precarious if it starts at such a low level and only thins from there. It's all to squeeze a millionth of a MPG out of a vehicle to meet federal fleet mpg standards. If the Lucas additives work for you, that's great, but I think I'll live with what I have, besides, the sound diminishes after it's good and warm.
@@stevemullens7937 I Understand your Concern about the VVT , The Synthetic Lucas is designed specifically for the lower weight oils doesn't affect how my Engine runs in fact it sounds better. It is much thinner than the original Lucas This isn't a sales pitch for Lucas I'm just speaking from experience. Add one quart with your next oil change (not over filling with oil Run the correct oil level) i promise you will not be disappointed . My truck looks good and I Use it too I haul around 5,000 to 6,000lbs hundreds of miles at a time, yes my MPG is not that great when towing , driving mostly empty My MPG is the same with or with out Lucas to each his own I guess have a good day buddy.
Good video My driveway is definitely sloped so I will have to figure out what level is
Thanks my brother. I have a 2016 tundra 5.7l. Your instructions are easy to follow. Question: why didn't you change the transmission oil filter?
I saw a video where someone replaced the filter and had a few of the pan mounting bolts break in the process which caused him much grief! I didn't want to risk a similar experience.
Many thanks Steve for this video!!
Glad to help.
Good idea with the wire
I’m no expert but I’ve read this procedure when I had to do my company’s 06 and 08 Tundras and a BMW 3 series and I just did it the old fashioned way. First I found out the correct fluid capacity when you pull the drain plug. 06 my 08 and 2014 Tundras show 3.2 -3.5 quarts.
Second find out the correct fluid temperature.
I believe it was around 130-150 degrees.
I simply pull the drain plug and drain. Then add like 2 quarts and start the truck and shift through the gears and then go back and add the other 1.2 -1.5
Quarts and measure the oil temp with a inferred temperature gun and make sure the temp is correct then watch for the correct overflow drain.
My Tundras and BMW run Great and for me “Very”
Simple job... Hope this helps everyone.
PS. I Always replace the crush washers.
Very inexpensive and guaranteed no leaks.
My first 06 Tundra job leaked so I always replace them now..
@Rick thanks as that is the method I was thinking of using also....didn't see the need for going through all these steps. Keep it Simple.
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My car is lc200 I use ir gun and also make a conection between pin 4 and 13 in obd2
Ir gun gives exsact result
I'll be doing this soon at the end of the summer. I have a OBD II scanner that gives me AT2 temperature. I was planning on just doing that with all accessories off. I was worried I should put it in check mode for idel speed so the pressure is right. Did you notice any idle speed difference in check mode than normal? It would be a lot easier to use my OBD II scanner cause its wireless to my phone.
DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE SOUND OF THE ENGINE SOUNDS LIKE MY 2008 TUNDRA. I AM FROM VERY COLD CLIMATE THAT SOUND IS NOTHING, TRY STARTING IN -25F WILL SOUND LIKE A DIESEL.
Thanks for the encouragement! I've about decided that it's just a cold engine noise.
Great job
Glad to help.
Thank you for sharing this video bro. I hope you changed that valvoline fluid and use the proper toyota WS fluid!
Why would I do that? There are several WS (World Standard) fluids on the market and the standard isn't only for Toyota vehicles, hence the name. Toyota doesn't make the fluid. The local Toyota dealer offers an aftermarket option for a non-Toyota BRANDED fluid for much less money. Why would they offer that if it is bad for the transmission? Would it take so long to cause damage that they could escape liability? As I stated in the video, Valvoline has been making petroleum products about 70 years longer than Toyota has been making cars. If Valvoline declares that their product meets a standard, I believe them. Some less reputable brand would not be my choice.
I’ve watched a few of these videos and there’s one thing I don’t understand.It would be more helpful to tell us how much fluid you ended up using.If we know this,approximately ,we’ll know how many quarts to buy and how much to put in at the start.There would be no need for the rest of us to go through the trouble of measuring what was drained out if we had this information.We’re going to check it at the end anyway with the level plug.
I bought enough, 4 gallons of Valvoline Max Life fluid, to do the claimed 13 (ish) quart capacity of my model (5.7L with 4x4 and cooler). Other models have a different capacity. As I stated in the video, on my first check attempt, 2 quarts came out and just in case it WAS my mistake, I replaced that fluid while doing the change. After the change, when I checked the level, 2 quarts drained out again, so I knew that it was probably overfilled by a certified mechanic. The previous owner used the dealer for all maintenance to a certain mileage. I did the check again in this video to reconfirm the level. I didn't do a video for the fluid change because I didn't want to get too busy with the video and screw up the change. I'm not the best multi tasker and I don't have any potential assistant willing to help. If you want to pay Toyota prices for fluid made to the same standard, feel free, but the Valvoline is WS and that is a multi manufacturer standard, not a Toyota standard alone. Hence the name World Standard. When in stock, Walmart sells the Valvoline for around $20/gal ($17 when I bought it) and it's full synthetic. One last thing, buy a few extra quarts, or a gallon, just in case of a spill, etc. Any unused, sealed containers can be returned for a refund.
When I got my 14 tundra I was very suspicious of the engine clatter noise. Going through tech videos, forums and eavesdropping other tundras I encountered though I soon figured it was typical. They're just noisy.
You can hear in the video that I had the same question. Other commenters confirmed what you found as well.
Apparently, '08 is the first year of the (stealership only) check transmission feature. Sorry for the assumption.
And they sell hand pumps the screw onto bottles and just hand pump the fluid into the transmission. Just like doing the differentials.
Same concept.
My Subaru has. A green conector for the test mode, makes things 100% safer than paper Clíp
How long did it take for D light to come on? Because once you figure that out you wouldn’t need to do the paper clip anymore right? You could just wait however many minutes right? Or no?
The time would depend upon what the ATF temperature was when the procedure started. Also the ambient temperature where you were performing the service. I found when I did the work that the temp got there pretty quick and also passed the threshold pretty quick as well. The paper clip is used to bypass the thermal valve which opens to let fluid flow to the transmission cooler. If you don't bypass that, you won't have all of the fluid near the same temperature, so your level might be effected. I think that answers your questions, read on, if you like. While Toyota designed this procedure for fluid level precision, I don't personally think it is THAT critical! See the video and my complaint that the fluid level was about a quart over full before I even started the service (see last three sentences). There were no signs of negative effects while driving. HOWEVER, there are many people that say an overfull transmission can cause blown seals and that could be a very expensive problem! That is why I did the service anyway. I bought the truck used and the service history stopped 75K miles before my purchase. Plus, from my personal experience, I don't trust most professional mechanics to do the job correctly, if at all. Too many horror stories out there! Essentially, if I can do a job on any of my vehicles, I will.
Steve, Great Video 👍. I purchased my truck new. A 2012 4.6 currently has 55,000+ miles, barely drive it.
I’d like to check the factory fill to make sure it’s correct.
Your thoughts? Was your factory fill low after doing all your calculations?
Should I bother? Or just simply drain ( cold ), measure and refill and be done?
Steve, also was that a big common paper clip or the smaller size for the OBD jumper?
Steve, From what you stated in the beginning of the video ( unless I understood wrong ) I believe yours initially was 2 quarts over full because you pulled the overfill with the vehicle either cold and not running, or not to operating temp, meaning that that thermostat didn’t open and suck up some fluid into the trans cooler.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
Anyhow I’m going to tackle this fluid change today. I’ll check my inbox before starting, hopefully I hear back from you on your thoughts of what I should do about previous questions.
@@Mr.Beastforpresident Love your handle ;-).
I did this service because the most recent service records Carfax had when I bought the truck were 75K miles old!
I had no idea of the fluid age or condition. This was the last of all of the fluid changes after buying the truck, because it is the most difficult. When I did the first level check, I was about to do the fluid change. The Toyota service guy I talked to told me that the 2 quarts came out because the engine was off and the fluid was not circulating. So, I measured that fluid and what came out when I used the DRAIN plug and I refilled that total amount into the tranny. I changed the fluid by bypassing the tranny thermostat the same as you would for a level check (the bent wire with a loop on the end) and I disconnected the outflow hose (should be the lower fitting) from the tranny cooler in front of the radiator and connected a hose to the outflow fitting. I then ran that hose into a clear gallon container that had markings for each quart. After starting the truck, I would hop out and watch the container fill as the circulating fluid came out of the cooler. When about two quarts had flowed out, I would shut off the engine, measure the result, pour the fluid into a waste container, add that amount of fresh fluid to the tranny and repeat. You don't want the level to get too low. After I had counted about one quart more than the published fluid capacity and refilled that amount, I finished up. That's when I did the first running at temperature level check and had the two quart overfull result again. That's why I repeated the level check and made the video. There are videos showing much of this on TH-cam.
I believe that either size paper clip will work. If the larger one fits too tight, switch to the smaller.
I know that some owners who are confident in their tranny fluid level, just drain their tranny pan and refill an equal amount to freshen the fluid every 30K miles or so. Realistically that is changing about one quarter to one third of the capacity of mine. Of course, that is MUCH better than believing that the tranny is "sealed" with lifetime fluid!
If you watch to the end of the video, you will see that my truck was nearly perfectly level on the ramps while facing down my sloped driveway which made the job much easier than slithering under several times with the engine running on level ground. It would take a jumbo jack and stands to raise it on all corners.
You might want to try to find the specific procedure for your year of Tundra, it may be different from mine and some models have the fill plug in a different location.
Good luck, and I hope I covered it all!
Steve Mullens Thanks... I found the fill plug the long time consuming way lol, my fill plug is on the rear near the output shaft on the passenger side. I keep looking through the drivers side wheel well and then crawled underneath and kept looking for it on bell housing on the drivers side where yours is. I bet techs pull that prank on Newbies working on the Tundra with the 4.6.
It seems you’re meticulous, near meticulous as me. So I’ll share something’s you may want to know.
While not condemning your choice on fluid, I thought I would share some facts not opinions that you may appreciate knowing if you want to make your Tundra lasts as long as possible reliably.
What makes a Toyota a Toyota, is the quality in which it’s made and the parts in which it’s made of. All fluids, filters and oils are not equal. You can see this for yourself by running Genuine Toyota oil for 9,000 miles then switch it to another brand of your choice and notice how the engine idles and compare how much louder the engine/Valvetrain is versus Genuine Toyota oil.
I can post link to a video that’ll save you the money unless you really want to see for yourself.
Just like all tires aren’t equal. It’s not that Valvoline isn’t a bad trans fluid it’s just not as good for maximizing the long-term reliability of a Toyota.
The quality in Genuine Toyota quality can be ( easier seen ) in holding and examining an actual part, as in a filter or Alternator.
While some parts as-in a Non-Toyota oil filter may appear to be better, I can assure you and gladly explain in detail with absolute certainty they are not.
The two 1 Millon Mile Tundras reaches 1 Million, by several factors.
They did Maintenance on time, done right and with Genuine Toyota parts and lastly the way those particular engines ( Timing Belt ) engines were engineered, tried and true for years.
Current ones have timing chains, the long term reliability has yet to be determined.
There is Counterfeit Toyota Parts out there on the internet. I would be happy to share the link to videos.
Lexus is made by Toyota. This is what sets Lexus apart from any other ( production ) gas engine and automobile manufacturer in the world.
***See videos below***
( No ) other production engine manufacture holds a candle to their engine quality and building processes. Not Rolls Royce, not Mercedes, not Infinity, not Audi, not Porsche etc etc... the only other gas ( street legal engines ) with equal quality, engineering and extreme attention to quality building processes, quality parts and extreme tolerances and literally perfectly balanced internals-> Silk smooth idle
Thanks for making the video. What transmission is in your truck? Or what transmission code is listed on your doorframe?
My notes have it as AB60F.
What years of tundras aplies that check
Greetings Steve! !😎
Very well explain video you just make toyota stealerships going broke they coute me 400 dlrs for trans fluid flush!
I love my Tundra alot has 70k miles on the clock so is time to service my Toy what an easy job anyone can do it at home.
The question is the transmission should be level or the oil pan has to be bcs my oil pan it's sloped.
As far as I know, the truck itself needs to be level. Make sure you have the information for your year and tranny before doing this! Good luck.
Great video Steve, I just brought a 2019 Tundra TRD PRO same color as yours, love most of everything about it until finding out this news out:( Beside the lack of trans cooler how do you like your new 2019 TRD Pro???
Mine is actually a 2014 5.7L double cab 4x4 with tow package and overall I like it. The mileage, however, is not great!
Did you do several drain and fills at the transmission pan or did you remove the fluid at the cooler hose?
Through the cooler hose in front of the radiator. I added a similar reply to the video description that you can read.
hey Steve- ive probably added a hundred views to the view count today, preparing to do this tomorrow, anyhow I noticed there is something leaking on the drivers side of the truck at about 15:35 mark, was this the fill plug fluid leaking out of the plug and hose?
It has been nearly two years since I did this service (and still no problems), but I think that some fluid spilled on the side of the tranny when I pulled the fill hose out and it ran down and dripped where you, and likely others saw it or fluid might have splashed up on the hose internally and it worked its way out then dripped. I can't remember which. And sorry about the comment at 16:20 . I had no one in particular in mind when I said it! Good luck with your service.
@@stevemullens7937 LMAO, story of my life rushing through somethings create these mishaps.
Hi Steve. Thank you for the vid. Nicely produced. I was wondering if you would be willing to share the written procedure? Thanks!
I have a PDF file that I found on some website several months ago, but I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to get it to you. I did slowly cover the instructions I had near the end of the video and that was for a 2014 & 2015 Tundra (maybe others) with tow pkg. You might want to research online to see if you can find a downloadable file. I think I found it through Tundratalk.net or Tundras .com. Good luck.
I finally got around to finding the onine .pdf file that I used. The link is in the description above. The thread I found it in has a link to THIS video and describes it aptly as "tedious and long" I can't say that I disagree! Hopefully, you found the info you needed if you already did the service. You need to be a Tundras.com member to download the file. The link is also here:
www.tundras.com/threads/gen-3-transmission-fluid-level-check-temperature-range.18359/
When doing a pan drain/fill is it ok to leave the hose in the fill hole throughout the procedure or does it need to be removed while the truck is running? If left in could this cause some damage or atf splashing out? I'm assuming it's only in the hole a couple inches? Thanks for the video.👍
In my experience, the hose doesn't contact moving parts and if the same size and type is used, the fit is tight enough that very little if any fluid will escape, so I left it in place until the level was correct.
Thank you for sharing, I have Toyota 4Runner 2005 SR5 V6 , can I do the same like you did on your car, thank you have a great weekend
Doesn't that have a dipstick/filler tube? I'm sure you can find SOMETHING to tell you how to do that service. You can probably find a service manual for that vehicle, unlike most newer vehicles that have no hard copy service manuals available. Good luck.
@@stevemullens7937 thank you for your reply to me. My car doesn’t have the dipstick should I do the same like you did
@@DinhNguyen-od7qn I can't say if the service on your 4Runner is even remotely the same. Haynes makes a manual that is supposed to cover your vehicle, you should either get one for reference or pay Toyota to do the service.
Hey Steve, I just had a transmission service (flush) done today from Toyota. I drove a few miles home and heard a relay chatter sound coming from the area and saw that the tech left the pin in the thermostat. Could this have caused any damage? I brought it back and they removed it and were very apologetic..
The pin opens the thermostatic valve to allow fluid to pass through to the transmission oil cooler. No real damage in my opinion, just a slower warmup. This is from memory, but I think it's accurate.
Thank you for making and posting this video. I didn’t understand the need to keep the thermostat button pressed. Is it a requirement for the bridging on the OBD port to work as intended for the temperature check, or is it just to bring the transmission to temperature faster, or is it something else? The transmission is going to come up to temperature sooner or later, no? TIA
As far as I know, it is needed to bring the temp in all of the fluid up to checking temp and warm it up faster
As far as I know, it is needed to bring the temp in all of the fluid up to checking temp and warm it up faster
How the heck did one reply become four copies?
How the heck did one reply become four copies?
Maxwell Smart I believe bypassing the thermostat allows the fluid to flow through the cooler and the entire tranny. So that helps when your doing a fluid exchange. Draining and refilling I don’t think it has anything to do with bringing the temp up faster
Like your video thanks
Glad to help. Sorry it was so long!
Thanks, nice job
Can you check level inside the camper shell by placing level in the bed?
I would assume, yes. I can't remember if there was a reason I didn't, or maybe I just didn't think of it!
I agree with having your truck on a level surface but I don’t think you have to whip out your level.You think a Toyota mechanic uses that on the lift?
In my case, the driveway was the only option and most subdivision driveways are sloped. As you can see in the video, I had to raise the downhill end about 6 inches to approximate level. My assumption would be that a shop lift would be about level when installed in the garage and negate the need to level the vehicle. But one point that I barely made in the video is that the check plug location in about in the middle of the pan lengthwise. At this point, if the pan is tilted front to back some while the engine is running, the level would likely be just about the same because the middle would be about at that level any way. I just wanted to make sure I did the best job I could.
What if the lights don't flash??
I would guess that either you didn't do the procedure right ( I've seen it done a little differently on youtube and still work), your truck isn't one that the procedure works on, or you put the paper clip in the wrong place. Hopefully you didn't do the latter, I would assume that bridging the wrong contacts MAY cause damage. Pause the video near the end and look closely at the diagram of the OBD II connector and which two contacts to bridge and make sure the diagram is oriented top to bottom the same way as your own connector. Good luck.
Also, see video description below the viewing screen for a link to a PDF file to get your own copy of the instructions I followed.
The test worked on my 2011 tundra but I don't believe it to be accurate temperature. It showed D on immediately and I test temp with infrared thermoter it only showed 92
The IR thermometer method is inaccurate for this purpose. Remember, the surface exposed to air is cooling or warming depending on ambient temperature and the thermometer has to be set correctly for the reflectivity of the material. Additionally, the 2011 may be set to check at a lower temp from my year. These details and insufficient info available online are part of the reason that it took me a couple of months before I was confident enough to try this (fluid change ((no video)) and level check) on my own! Don't forget to level your truck, see last 5 mins of video. Good luck.
@@stevemullens7937 thanks yes I will make sure it's level and thank you for the informative video. I went to my Toyota dealership and talked with service tech. He told me between 120 and 130
@@GB-nu8fq I believe earlier models the oil temp was higher than the newer ones.
Is this the same procedure for a 2007 Tundra ? I'm having trouble locating specific instructions for my model year.....
It's probably similar. Some people, assuming you're confident that the current level is good, will drain the pan cold and refill with an equal amount of cold fluid. Some will do it two or three times to gradually dilute the old fluid with new. They drive the truck and let it cool between drain/fills. Good luck finding the info you need. I don't know where to find it. I no longer even own the truck! - - -I just checked my files and I have the 2007 procedure in .pdf format, BUT it doesn't show the paperclip technique, so I don't know if it would work on your year. The rest of the procedure seemed the same. The temps are between 115 and 133℉. I would send it to you, but I don't have your email and I'm not terribly tech savvy.
@@stevemullens7937 ok thank you very for the info & the video !
Is this the same procedure for the 2006 tundra?
As far as I know, the 2006 still had a dipstick. Checking and filling are so much easier! You just need to find the procedure for your tranny and follow the instructions. I kind of envy you.
@@stevemullens7937 no dipstick sir
@@litoskid2754 I was under the impression that '08 was the first year of "sealed" Tundra transmissions. I watched this video and it's pretty similar th-cam.com/video/kkrSZ26uKm8/w-d-xo.html You should check online for info specific to your year and model. Luckily for you, you can buy shop manuals for your year. Have fun.
bro after doing this my airbag light is permanently on.. did this happened to you too?
I had no unusual effects from this service. Did you put the paperclip in the places noted in the written instructions? If not, you may need to check your fuses and if that fails, go to the dealer or a mechanic who works on Toyotas and get a reset on your computer or something to that effect.
@@stevemullens7937 yep i kinda put the paper clip in the wrong pins before doing in the right ones. Checked all the fuses in the cabin and engine bay, they all are ok. Hope i didnt fried sensors or ecu.
@@MrRey007 That would be bad and expensive! Hopefully, you can get some kind of a reset at your nearest dealer. Good luck!
What a pain in the ass! They couldn't just add a dipstick? I have a 2012 tundra and I thought about doing this myself but I don't think I have enough patience to even attempt it.
I would have to agree! I and people I know have had issues with "professional" mechanics not doing something correctly, so it is my personal plan to do as much of my maintenance as I can possibly do with confidence. Additionally, I saved $3-400 by doing it myself and I know that the instructions were followed to the letter. Good luck with your choice.
All makes got rid of the dipstick.
Sounds like a diesel
You can’t check the fluid with it on ramps!! It has to be level
If you watch the entire admittedly lengthy, video, you would see that the front of my truck was on the down SLOPE of my driveway and the ramps made my truck nearly perfectly level. There is even a formula in the video to calculate the appropriate height of the ramps (hence the 2x6 boards on the bottom). They also allowed me to shimmy under the truck much more easily than parking on level ground without stands of any kind. I already did that when I changed all of my fluids in the transfer case and the differentials and it was quite tight! I wouldn't want to do that with the truck running. Thanks for watching.
ummm he covered that
I just can’t too much work I’ll just take it to a Toyota dealership
Some people are willing and some aren't. I casually searched for weeks to find enough information to tackle this job with relative confidence. Many DIY people believe that Toyota designed this system not to be precise, but to get more people to use their shops.
@@stevemullens7937 yea it seems like to much work than a Chevy or Ford I like my Toyota better
@@floridalife7564 It is a lot more work than it needs to be! That's why I saved it for last on my used vehicle purchase fluid changes.
My dealer told me to use pin 4 and 13 as well for the 2016 thru 2021 model Tundras However I don't have pin 13. I have 14, 15, 16. Which one do I jump with pin 4. Also what does TC STAND FOR ON YOUR PIN 13?
I don't really know. I didn't write the instructions. Sorry I couldn't help.
Same here. This jumper wire method does not work for a 2019 sequoia.
Being that it's dealing with a transmission, my best guess at what TC stands for, would be torque convertor.
Not stupid people but un informed
OK...
Could you check level with a smaller level at the oil pan?
It seems that the pan should be sloped rearward to assist in drainage, but I really don't know. I would guess that if your truck has no shell over the bed, you could just use the sides of the bed to check level. Mine was covered. It's been over three years since I did this service and I can't look at the truck because I no longer own it! Didn't need it anymore. Good luck.