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Yrs. I woold watch them. Always.
You said the magical word; "Goofy". Madonna has been goofy all of her life!!! She's always said that sometimes people take the things she says too seriously. The woman has a very special sense of humour, very tongue-in-cheek, very sarcastic. I think if she had chosen to make comedy movies instead of drama her story on cinema would have been different. I love the Goofy Madonna.
I adore her when she’s being sarcastic. I’m that way myself, and always make jokes of everything. But so many people don’t get it. I think it’s also cause she’s surrounded by a lot of Queens who share her humour too.
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Def thinks that has something to do with it
Kurt the head of the news dept for mtv and came from rolling stone . Madonna was mean to him because he didn’t like her. He got the best interviews and she dug him on it constantly
I agree that things are different today, but some of the footage from outside her hotel/cars in Rio last week looked like it was straight out of Truth or Date. It was insane!
Kurt Loder was the head of Music News at MTV. He had originally been critical and unimpressed with Madonna. So she zeroed in on him. Won him over. They were very tight on the day. He got many exclusives (like this) and she in turn got great support kid gloves from him and MTV.
They became good friends and Kurt said a few years ago he thinks Madonna is one of the smartest people he's ever known
Aw smart‼️ our girl always has a play 😂. Mutually beneficial for both
Empress 💯about the type of paparazzi fame that few have achieved. Kurt was one of the first MTV host. I think he built a relationship with Madonna early on her career. Also there will never be an era of the “big video” Yep💯💯 it’s about touching people, that what makes a star. Empress I’ll predict that this might become your #2 Madonna album because Madonna’83 is the baby.
We shall see 😎
I def remember watching this on MTV in 8th grade when it aired. Watching it now, it's great how they work every track from Bedtime Stories into the special (loved you grooving to every song!), as like a great sales pitch for the album, which was already doing well - but Take A Bow was such a phenomenon at the time, even doing better than lead single Secret on the charts here, which didn't usually happen. I bet this special helped a lot!
Great context!
Also, don't forget the ''Something to Remember'' era after this era, since this was her ballad Greatest Hits and she recording four new songs for this greatest hits, one with Massive Attack for her Marvin Gaye cover ''I Want You'' and she wrote two songs with David Foster, this last was a huge name has a pop and AC producer and work with Barbra Streisand, Celine Dion, Linda Ronstadt, and all huge voice of 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's.
Noted!
not to mention You'll See, which is the spiritual sister to Take a Bow.
I love the Bedtime Stories era. The videos were all great, the singles were and imo the albumtracks maybe except one or two were as well. She looked really great at the time here as well. Mix of very elegant grand dame and a big of grunge chic.
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I remember this interview well. I must have had the weekend off.
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I believe the tour was called the Who's That Girl? tour. I could be wrong. I must have watched this interview every time it was on, and trust me, they played this interview and madonnna videos on repeat every weekend.
Yes, Who’s that girl tour.
Nope you’re right ‼️😂
I watched so many of those Madonna Weekends lol
Bedtime Stories is her 6th full length album excluding I'm Breathless: Music From And Inspired By Dick Tracy which to most people is considered a soundtrack album.
Her Erotica era looks and Bedtime Stories era looks to me seem different and distinct from each other. Although there were some classic looks in the Erotica and Deeper And Deeper music videos but for the most part the Erotica era looks were sleek and sharp while the Bedtime Stories era looks were much more softer excluding the Human Nature music video looks.
I don't consider Live To Tell a romantic song. To me it's a deep, soul searching and soul searing and poignant song.
Her mother was 30 when she passed away.
The beef was started by Janet when she was asked about what she thought about Madonna and JJ said that what she does has class whereas she didn't think that what Madonna did is trashy and crass and that she didn't have anything nice to say about her. And it was rumored that when MJ and Madonna were hanging out to try to collaborate on his song and music video for In The Closet it was said that Madonna talked bad about JJ and that's why JJ may have been pissed and said what she said in the interview.
Although I agree with her about touching people by singing from the heart, I still would like to hear her develop her vocal skills again like she did for Evita and Ray Of Light and really hear her belt and sing her heart out.
This is my favorite behind the scenes for a music video so I watch this a million times and noticed that during the catwalk dressing scenes a 5 minute part was cut off with a designer that looks like J Alexander from Tyra Banks American Next Top Model. I had always wondered if that was him or not?
No I gotta rewatch
I was waiting for this one, Empress! I remember my Mom getting mad at me for watching the Madonna weekend. She told me I was not gonna sit and watch TV all weekend! Lol
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Love Bedtime Stories ❤❤❤❤..as far as the degree of Fame.....Madonna is definitely in very royal company. Like Michael, Elvis, Beatles, etc. Don't necessarily think I would have the ability and composure to live like that...she's handling it well.
💋🐂 I love this special so much. Kurt pushes the nerd-perv humour a little much, but she parleys it with perfect charm. I can see Kurt looking like a misfit in the pop reporter role to someone outside of 90s culture because now people are matched to the style they’re reporting on more. Then, because he was senior at MTV, he’d report on acts across genres and his generally unimpressed, droll but intelligent and insightful interview mode was the exact mood of the era. The 90s was all about being dry and cool and only expressing enthusiasm with a heavy dose of wryness. It was the end of an epic century, and that lent the culture a sort of exhausted glamour. A very similar mood characterised the end of the 19th Century too. The term is “fin de siecle”, French for “end of century”.
I love Madonna’s sass in this special too. Especially her response to Janet doing a typical low key puritanical diss of Madonna when she essentially said that “I do sexy with more class”, implying Madonna was common or too overt for her Jehovah’s Witness tastes. Madonna’s elegant response “Rather transparent, wouldn’t you say…” calling out Janet’s attempt to hop on Madonna’s S&M inspired sexy bandwagon while also distancing herself from any real commitment to the actual culture of sexual freedom. I love a lot of Janet’s stuff, and grew up worshipping Michael, but their capitalising on the image of sex while being so morally opposed to sexual freedom, let alone any real inference of queerness, has always rubbed me the wrong way.
This kind of leads me to reiterating my strong disagree on her being sorry about the Erotica era. There’s a huge difference between having a traumatic time while doing something brave that you believe in, then pivoting to other interests because she felt boxed in by public perception, and feeling SORRY she did the Erotica era. I think she’s proud of the Erotica era, but just doesn’t want to be pinned down or limited to that public perception. Being shrewd (and she’s the shrewdest) isn’t the same as having regrets. Interesting that while Bedtime Stories is considered a strong album for her, it’s Erotica that has received its retrospective dues as a truly groundbreaking album, and is almost always listed as one of her essential records. I don’t think it’s Madonna’s fault that people couldn’t concentrate on the quality of the music on Erotica. I think it’s the fault of the immaturity and underlying puritan values of a mainstream public who get so distracted my sexual display that they can’t think straight. Or maybe they think too damn STRAIGHT 😂
Even in her responses about the bull fighting theme of the video, she speaks as an artist exploring a mood before she considers the broader issues of the sport. The tragedy and cruelty of it capture the feeling of tragedy and cruelty that can come from intense affairs of the heart, and the risk to bodily safety was an ever present consideration in sex in the 90s, so that works as a metaphor too. Oscar Wilde said that artists must begin from a state of immorality because creation should be first instinctual, not moral. Morality can be brought in later, or not, but the first consideration must be pure and without the societal constraint.
I love Madonna for her open contradictions, genuine commitment to her messages, and consistent transparency about exploring things without having all the answers. Despite her formidable intelligence and her affectations of arrogance, she always arrives at a point of questioning both the world and herself in order to grow.
PS: The director Michael Haussmann is cuuute.
PPS: Madonna’s self written and directed biographical film is back on. It was paused due to her tour, and her tour became an autobiographical expression of its own. But Julia Garner is reconfirmed as principal cast and the project is going ahead 📝🎬📣
This film - so curious to see where will it start, what eras, what lovers, what truths, what lies , what regrets, 😂.
Yeah the director was vintage cute 😊. I don’t know Peter I get the feeling that Madonna started to feel like she could have done some things differently or not at all once she started feeling the cold 🥶 reception and her ego had to be hurt as to your point she is shrewd so numbers mattered to her especially the lack there of given that she had basically been on a 10 year hot streak. But she strikes me as the type who will fulfill the dare to prove a point even though she knows she is crashing out.
@@EmpressReacts I definitely think she was shocked by the potential for her work to tank her career, but she’s very no risk no glory, and the glory for Erotica and the Sex book has been in its huge appeal to the queer community, and it’s retrospective place as an incredibly ground breaking and era defining project
She was pilloried by critics and the “moral” majority, and yet her Erotica era (and a similar project, the controversial exhibition of Robert Mapplethorpe’s photography) absolutely defined the S&M aesthetic obsession of the mid 90s
The mainstream loves to appropriate the look of something while denigrating the people who actually live it
Madonna explored the look and the lifestyle, but more crucially she showed genuine queer and fetish representation of the actual community in her book, and sang about us on the album
I think the difference is seeing her work as primarily strategic, when I think it’s genuine art but steered by a highly strategic mind. I do agree that she had to pivot her strategy after Erotica wasn’t as successful or well received as it should’ve been, but I think her artistic self is ultimately glad she did it
The album sold more than six million copies worldwide, which is considerably less than most Madonna albums, but a LOT more than most “hit” records. Plus the superb singles Erotica, Rain and Bad Girl should’ve gotten more sales
I maintain it’s the uptight public’s problem, not Madonna’s art, that obscured the music
PS: I googled Michael Haussmann today… he’s still pretty cute 😅
Happy Mother's Day Empres, enjoy your day 🙏🏿
Thanks so much
I still laugh out loud at her sassiness and attitude when she bursts that door open at 15:00. Too funny! Nothing from Empress though. 😂
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@@EmpressReacts 😝
So much fun to watch Madonna interviews from this era. ❤🤩😍❤
The bio pic was halted and then kind of turned into the celebration tour. Yes, those Madonna weekends were a big thing, I stayed home to see all the videos and interviews, there was nothing else to see them, unless you recorded it. Have you seen the huge crowds standing in front of her hotel chanting in Rio? It was like the 'old' days, I couldn't believe it myself. And yeah, the first notes of 'Live to Tell' hit hard and even harder in the Celebration Tour, combined with the first sentence of 'In this life' it was actually a highlight in the show. Sorry, can't get over this current tour, so amazing. The show is over and I have to say goodbye! Let's see what's next. Until then I dive into her past with your reactions.
Thanks for catching up! And I agree with the decision to stop the movie 😂
@@EmpressReacts Rumor is that she's still interested in doing it. We'll see. I hope she get someone else to write/direct it. 😬
Janet dissed madonna twice, talking about her music her voice. At that time, everyone was being compared to madonna. Selena was called the Mexican Madonna, Kylie was being called the Australian Madonna, and Janet was being called the black Madonna. Being a Kylie fan I know this bothered her a bit but she never dissed Madonna and Selena was a huge fan so it didn't bother her at all, but Janet I think already didn't like Madonna. So, being compared to her must have really gotten under her skin. In an interview, she said. " She does dance music, I guess you can call it that, but I think what I do has class to it." I really think Janet must have heard her bothers talking and got an impression of Madonna and didn't like her because remember the story about madonna going to the Victory tour and kissing Randy right in front of his then girlfriend? then there was the story of Madonna and Michael hanging out, and Michael didn't like the way madonna talked to some kids. I am going to give an opinion based on fact, so please Janet fans dont come for me. (because Janet fans can be as bad if not worse than the Beyhive) I think Janet was annoyed Madonna was in a position she wanted to be in. I think there was competition, and Janet, a mega star in her own right, but she wasn't the Titan madonna was. For example, I have always said Kylie and Janet were mirror images of each other career wise. Like Kylie is huge in the UK Europe and Australia but for years wasn't big here in the US. The same can be said about Janet in the UK and Australia. Madonna doesn't have that problem anywhere in the world. Madonna is a major worldwide star. Once again, Janet fans don't come for me. Instead, look up her chart performances in those countries and see why I have this opinion. Here, Mariah Carey has more number 1s than any female artist in history. madonna has that same title in the UK, Canada, and Australia. To me, because she didn't like Madonna, she didn't want to be compared to her, and if she was going to be compared, she wanted to be the most successful of the 2. IMO
Well said, clear, unbiased and honestly facts! 💯 Hit the nail on the head!
Ah, thanks for leaving this comment. Really put things in perspective for me as well as I do believe the competition was real. The global appeal that you mentioned I also feels lends way to Janet’s fall off and decline after nipplegate
@@EmpressReacts For the record, in this case Janet said "My mother taught me that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." The "What I do has class to it" comment came a year earlier when she was promoting the janet. album. During that time she also complained in an interview that Madonna's book was disgusting and mocked the record sales of Erotica, saying it "only shipped two million." I love Janet, but it was so petty and nasty to kick Madonna when she was down. And then years later Madonna stood up for Janet during the Super Bowl thing. She also stood up for MJ before and after his death. "Class."
Janet has been a nasty s**t to Madonna.
Are you thinking of Ciao Italia ? The video release of her concert filmed there?
Yep! Wrong country 😂
This woman is a GOOFBALL 🤷🏾♂️😂💯
Madonna’s humor is very underrated & her laugh is infectious (11:11).
I didn’t mean goofball in an insulting way 😂🫠
@@EmpressReacts I know 🤣💘 Folks that don’t follow Madonna find her serious/ cold, but she can be very silly with the right interviewer!
@@myfriendisaac and it’s so interesting to me because that is something that appealed to me about her since the beginning of this journey her humor and she’s very intelligent
@@EmpressReacts Agreed! I find Madonna to be passionate, thoughtful, and still playful in most of her interviews 👏🏾💯
Janet agreed with the interviewer that they both made dance music, but hers has 'class' to it
😂okay Janet. Idk how to feel about that comment as I haven’t listened to the full Janet album but I have heard most of Damita Jo and um erotic erotica is how I would describe that 😂. Let’s just say Janet started moaning on tracks in 86 and I’ve only heard Madonna do it on Erotica the song in 92
@@EmpressReacts #FACTS. It was very strange that Janet said what said given the direction she was going in at the time. It just confirmed for me that it was never about the work, it was personal. I wish Jan had just been honest and said "I don't like some of the things she said about my brother." It was "rather transparent" as Madonna herself said.
@@EmpressReacts I love both but Janet showed her tatas at the most inappropriate time and made songs like Warmth and Moist, no idea how what Madonna did was less classy lol
Madonna back in the day smoking indoors, nowadays, everyone is banned to smoke at her concerts and even outdoors she asks people not to. Times change.
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I love how Madonna acts like she never smoked 🤣 I love her, but what a lie lmao
Now Erotica is considered one of her best among the fan base. It's in most people's top 5. In my opinion Erotica is her #1 album. I could never get into Bedtime Stories as an album, as a whole. Imo, there are only a few songs that are good. I usually put Bedtime Stories in the middle of the pack. Idk, I thought back then it was to R&B for me. I thought she was trying too hard to sound like others back then. E you really need to revisit Erotica. But, as usual, Madonna always shines in her interviews, especially with Kurt. And, yes, like any true fan, I was home ALL weekend, soaking up every bit of her. Remember, we didn't have internet back then, so we devoured any and everything she did. Btw, her movie was put on hold for her tour that just wrapped up a week ago.
Oh okay, movie continues, and these marathons were like the original fan pages
@@EmpressReacts I think the difference is that EVERYBODY was watching on MTV. It truly was MadonnaTV. Artists today just don't have that kind of ubiquity. That's why the Taylor comparisons aren't quite right. It's like back in the day when everyone had the same "facts" because they all watched the same news. Now everyone is in their own bubbles.
Janet "What I have is class" video comment deleted lol? I remember watching when I first saw this. Next up Madonna/Babyface TAB live at American Music Awards? Hands be trembling, she was uber nervous!
Interesting ‼️
Another Babyface Masterpiece
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her relationship with Junior dates back almost as long her friendship with Debi Mazar and I think they were involved during the danceteria days. She did her first erotica demo with him - Love Hurts. After delivering one of her best remixes for Secret, I think he felt dissed not being asked to remix songs that followed and that's why he did If Madonna calls. She moved on to victor calderone who is responsible for one of her best remixes - for beautiful stranger.
dang i didn't know they had went back that far. junior really played himself.
Hi I used to watch these specials all the time and record them in WHS. Now that Madonna has finished the tour, maybe she will devote herself to her film
We share a Naval base with Spain about an hour from Ronda. I’ve been there several times right before Madonna did this video and about two years after
the city has a massive gorge cutting it in half and small bridge span connecting the two sides that when you drive over it, you have no idea what below it’s truly impressive spectacular and quite a feat of engineering that bridged these two sides of the city it’s one of the best and Andalucian White town in that area that completelyembodies, everything of the Spanish culture
So how scared were you the first time going over that bridge tho!
@@EmpressReacts I wasn’t because I didn’t know. But once we toured the other part of the town we entered the gorge and it was awe inspiring
that was so great to watch again and yes I watched the original Madaonna Weekend on MTV Europe. I was working in a hotel in Amsterdam at the time and used to watched while I was 'cleaning the rooms'. I remember in our party den / house all we played was Bedtime Stories, Kylie Minogue 94 and trance mix tapes. Good times, crazy but good 😂
Sounds like sooo much fun
Oh i'm excited about this! Love these old MTV specials, it seems to be such a dope channel back in the day...getting you closer to the artist with these specials and actually doing good music journalism, nowadays they just show reality bullshit lol
I agree with this soooo much ‼️‼️Like bring back real journalism
Love this....can't wait for your album review
Can’t wait either😁
Happy Mother's Day
Thank u!
Erotica had some great offerings, al but for 2 or 3 songs
Like everything else this era, her look change was only subtle, but it was a little different. I feel like Erotica & Bedtime Stories are sister albums anyway. But loved the video ☺️ Happy Mothers Day ❤️💐
😊 thank u
The fact it's later that he wanted to work with Babyface again in her next album originally, but after some songs, she think to this was too similar to ''Take a Bow'' and she abandonned the songs she conceived with him. Some of the demos was leaked in the last years in the net and remains a lot of songs who Babyface produced for others artists like Whitney or Toni Braxton. And Madonna music make in a different direction after her daughter was born in 1996.
Interesting
Yeah there was a demo she did with Babyface that was recorded for Ray of Light called Never Love A Stranger but it sounded almost exactly like Take A Bow musically..so it was scrapped
Re the gum gross thing: as a kid Madonna would get gum from the sidewalk and chew it. Re the Janet diss: hear for yourself th-cam.com/video/mG9mN2fgvzQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MadonnaAddict360
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Basically the only things Janet said (publicly back in the day) was that her stuff had a bit of class to it and that the only thing in common they had was that it was both dance music.
Soooo interesting ‼️in the journey where I am now I would argue Janet had the more explicit catalog, but the sex book hands down sealed Madonna’s more explicit image
@@EmpressReacts Janet sure got her freaky deaky in, so I don't know what SHE is talkin bout.🤣
@@BenSellers8022 🔥😂
Kurt was always The Grown-up on MTV. I always liked this contrast to all the artists he talked to. If he tried to be "down with the kids" it never would have worked.
I saw he recently had his 79th birthday.
Lori Goldstein won a VH1 Fashion Award for the Take A Bow video.
As she should have 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
oh... was this shots fired to Warren Beatty? I never made that connection before... or maybe Sean? But this was quite a while after Sean.
Rather transparent, wouldn't you say?
Happy Mother’s Day!! Thanks for the vid, no bull. Ready for some Evita…is that next? 😂😂🤔
Not sure yet😊
@@EmpressReacts It isn’t. I think GV2 album is next.
@@edugator6 Something to Remember but theres several Bedtime Story interviews and specials to watch before. The Bedtime stories pyjama party most importantly. But theres so many interviews.
janet was asked in an interview about her album _janet_ (1993) and it's more sexual tone. they compared it to madonna and _erotica_... janet said that they were comparable in that they both made dance music, but that she felt she had a little more class. i listened the f out of both of those cds though.
And who had more class?
@@EmpressReacts i mean... i can't say that janet was wrong. but back in the 90s i lived for madondon. she was turning looks and pulling stunts all the time. always in the papers for something.
but janet had some pretty nasty lyrics too "your smooth and shiny feels so good against my lips...", and "bigger! harder! thicker! deeper!..." i clutched my pearls. i was just a child!
@@mark902 😂😂😂 I just clutched mine
Funny how much the Bedtime Stories album is loved and it was M's least favorite to make. She's said that multiple times.
I think now it's Rebel Heart, based off the 50 questions with Madonna thing.
Interesting
@@kazzymoviefan who's to really know. I think it was both based off of the number of producers ( the songwriting camps with RH) and the struggle to make a cohesive sound. Rebel Heart really turned into a nightmare with the leaks and everything. I felt really bad for her around that time.
Her concerts are better than her videos with he videos its more about her acting
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Hi girl I know this is out of nowhere but I know u met the TH-camr Werdna and have his contacts and everything. A lot of his viewers including me are worried that something happened to him cos he posted we was gonna come back in Jan and it's in May now and nothing posted for 5 months. Please don't ignore my message just tell us if he's alive and well and if u don't know can u find out? And maybe tell him that people are worried about him? Thanks queen.
Hi!!! Werdna is alive and trying to thrive. He's had a few setbacks and has experienced loss of a loved one. He has his head up, and sill keeping his sense of humor but life is lifing. Keep him in yall prayers!
@@EmpressReacts Aww that's so sad I pray he heals soon. But in the meantime can u please tell him to just leave a quick community tab update just to set his viewers at ease that he's alright but will be taking a long break. I would do it but I can't personally contact all his viewers. Thank u for replying ur a real one. ❤
@@Gary-Spice a real one 💯😁. And I told him to do that a while ago lol, but it’s his decision. Just know he’s alive and trying to thrive. He loves you guys.
I still stand by the Erotica is a FAR better album than Bedtime Stories.
we'll chat 😂
@@EmpressReacts haha. I think it's a good album, but it feels like a mid tier album in the middle of the next really interesting thing (Ray of Light) and after a groundbreaking statement (Erotica). Its also an album she really didn't like making at all
@@Vertigotheatre1 It's depends, i like Madonna but ''Erotica'' lack of incredible songs like in ''True Blue'', ''Like a Prayer'' and ''Ray of Light''. In fact , ''Erotica'' have some craps, like the terrible title track, ''Did you Do it?'' and many so-so songs like ''Bye Bye Baby'' and ''Waiting''.
@@WCD199317 Don't agree at all. Did You Do It was a bonus track. Also I think Waiting is superb. It also has Rain, Erotica, Deeper and Deeper, Bad Girl.
I do think that Janet couldn’t understand why Madonna was so much more successful than her. Janet was huge in America but Madonna was bigger in every country in the world including America except for probably 1993 to 1997 where Janet was selling more records then Janet in the USA but in Europe, Australia and South America Madonna has always outsold Janet.
Interesting!
Why are they allowed to "culturally appropriate" our hair? Imagine the horrific backlash if we started walking around with afros. Smh
Enjoy the rest of the Bedtime era, because there are some uninspired albums after this -- until 'Ray of Light'. Boring ballads and a cringeworthy Evita soundtrack. Hit those the 'Bedtime' b-sides "Your Honesty", "Let Down Your Guard", and "I'd Rather Be Your Lover w/2Pac". I think you'll like some of those better than some of the album tracks....
Noted!