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Thanks Betty! I agree commissions remove the intuitive joyful aspect of making art. I have done many and they have all worked out. Thankfully. But they just aren’t as satisfying.
Fortunately, I've had many that allowed me to be intuitive and playful (well, at least the first few stages!). I feel a sense of relief right now that I won't be taking on any in the near future. I may change my mind, however!
I 100% agree with all of this! You like to use the phrase “it speaks to my heart”. And that’s what art should do. I believe most people who ask for a commission have a vision that is ethereal and unattainable in the back of their mind and they are unable to explain it or maybe they are even unaware of it themselves. Their heart is a mystery. But the end result is the same- no matter how wonderful the finished work is, it WILL NOT speak to their heart because there is some secret within their longing that remains unheard. I have been on the same journey with my own work and have reached the same place as you- no commissions- at least not in the foreseeable future. Plus, when I look at my past work I can always “see” when I painted scared! Kind of like a dog being able to smell fear, these works just reek of it. Thank you for sharing so much of yourself, it is inspiring me to do more of the same. ❤️ 🎨 🙏
Thank you for sharing that with me, Angel. I'm glad that you're doing what works best for you so that you can express yourself freely through your art. Keep on creating!
Wonderful talk! When you are a hyper people pleaser (I am one too) commission work will never work. I totally agree with you. The stress of it all takes the wind out of me along with the spark that makes the work enjoyable and that will never be a good mix in the end. Loved this! xo
Betty you are so awesome. Always so generous with what you know! This totally expresses my feelings and why I don’t like painting commissions. I also, before I started painting myself, had two different artists do commissions for me. I was disappointed both times and I had bought previous paintings from each of them. They never knew, but it was a lesson for me. I have learned not to do commissions for anyone and not to commission anyone, lol. I want to see it complete, love it when I see it, and not be able to walk away without buying it. Thank you again for all you share with everyone. ❤️
Great ideas. I am a new artist. So far I have 3 commissioned paintings. The idea about showing progress at 80 percent done is great. I was sending 3 progress pics. I can totally relate to your feelings about feeling stressed. We as artists have a great attachment emotionally to our work. Mine comes from my heart and soul and my spirtual being. Consumers look at art differently I want this color or that blaw blaw. I am straight forward with my work. If customer wants a cookie cutter painting I am going to turn them down. Thanks Betty. I admire you and your work so much .
Thank you for this great advices. I have been asked to do commission work and I did it but now I change my way to respond to those request. I ask the clients what they like about my work, favorite art pieces, favorite colors, size, etc. Than I would integrate some of their answers in my new pieces. I send them the pictures of my new artworks before I posted them on my Instagram and FB and before I send them to the gallery. So far, I did sell few pieces this way and the clients felt privileged that they had a preview of my work. As for me, its less stressful this way.
Thank you Betty. You know how I feel about your honesty and transparency. And thank you for having the character to give Bob Burridge such a good plug. That guy invests in others so freely and consistently. I appreciate you doing that.
Thank you so much, Harmony! Bob is a very kind and giving person! When I took his workshop, I said to myself that I wanted to be like that...sharing what I've learned over the year.
Well said and I totally agree! Your work has a beautiful spontaneity about it. Just continue to foster the freedom that comes with the joy of moving the painting in any direction you like. I look forward to seeing what you create!
Oh I SO loved this video. I’m a brand new artist and I honestly have no interest in doing commissions. I just can’t even imagine painting by being told what to create vs painting from pure inspiration. It’s been selling by word of mouth so far. I do appreciate all that you shared regarding how you’ve done commissions. That was incredibly insightful in case I choose to go that route at some point. I can see how commissions may even be a challenge that helps you grow as well but the way it feels just conflicts with how painting from genuine heartfelt passion feels like. Thanks SO much for this as it has truly expanded how I thought about selling my art.
What excellent advice from a wonderful artist! Love your work and that you are generous in sharing your knowledge. It's a very competitive world in art and so refreshing to be able to listen to your insight and experiences. Thank you!
This is the video that I love. I really think I’m going to tell the client that I can’t do it. I think if the piece wasn’t so big (5x7 feet) I might be able to do it and it wouldn’t stress me out so much. It’s not fun when you wake up and get ready to work on a piece and dreading it. I want to add joy to my art not dreadfulness!! Thank you Betty.
Thanks for your honesty. I have had a number of commissions lately, no contracts and all have sold however I don’t enjoy the process it’s too planned for me. I enjoy the final result when my customer is happy and pay me… However when my clients choose one or two others I’ve done to use as inspo …I am so flattered but the panic as I have no idea how I did them it’s all just intuitive mood in the moment 😆 so they take many more hours than the original pieces ever did… Thankyou I feel better knowing that’s normal! 💕 At the moment the income is great but hopefully I can stop doing them one day 😀💕
I completely understand where you're coming from, Kristine! I often asked the client which piece(s) of mine they liked the best that I could use as the inspiration. But, I often felt like I needed to create it to be as close to that piece as possible. Commissions are not for the weak of heart! Glad to hear it's a good source of income for you!
Totally agree! I knew before the first request for a custom jewelry piece happened that I could not create to someone else’s specifications. I knew it would suck the joy right out of it for me. So I said no from the beginning. However, I was already retired from my “day” job and receiving a great pension so I did not need to take commissions - so was very fortunate in that regard. Great advice here Betty! Love your work!!
Hi Gail! You're lucky to have been in a position where you didn't need the commissioned work. I know a lot of artists getting started with their art business need the income. It's a decision each person has to make. I'd say that I needed it in the beginning, but now I'm finally at a place where I don't have to do them. Thanks for sharing your experiences!
it's amazing how we artists can serve as conduits or channels of ideas from our clients, I feel our spirit taps into theirs, and into what they truly want and need...And even when "you" don't think the piece is "good enough", it's a whole another story for your client! My commissioned experience has been pretty great too, I feel so lucky! I do what I call Intuitive Soul Portraits, where I paint the energy of my clients as I perceive it (I am an energy intuitive and healer) this gives me such freedom because they know beforehand the final work will be unique and spontaneous ! thanks for this insightful video! 💜
Hi Betty, great video! I applaud your decision to back away from commissions. My own art career was in the corporate world. It paid well, was challenging, gratifying but for me - very stressful. I was always creating to "please someone else." I have retired from that world and only create the art which pleases me-myself-and-I. SUCH a relief! That it also pleases other people and they wish to buy my art is simply icing on the cake.
That's awesome! Like you, I spent many years in corporate America in high stress roles. I was just thinking last night how doing commissions was very similar to the stress I felt working for someone else. I'm feeling so much better about my choice (and other choices) as an artist. Thank you for sharing that with me!
Thank you so much for taking time to share all this good info Betty!!! I know what you are saying, I am a people pleaser too, sounds like the stress of commissions takes away from the fun of the art, not for me either
Thank you. Best talk on commissions. I go back and forth on how I feel about them. I have done some, but, it takes some of the fun out of the painting for me. However, I still take them occasionally for people are very flexible. Thank you for this talk.
Thank you so much for this, Betty! I've been following you for a while and love how you clearly and concisely cover what worked and didn't work for you. I've just started my art business and I just was approached for a commission of 5-6 paintings! This video and your video on pricing are a huge help. I appreciate this content and your amazing work!
Hello Betty, thankyou for your generous, insightful perspective on commission paintings. I'm taking a break from cfeating art after some stressful commissions and exhibitions. I'm emotionally exhausted from trying to please everyone else. So it's time to recharge and enjoy family and friends for a week or two. I appreciate all of your effort with the TH-cam videos. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing Betty. This is incredibly valuable information and very generous of you to share. Your videos inspired me to jump into creating abstract art which is so freeing and joyous for me. I love your work and your spirit!
I will join the crowd. I am doing a set of commissions right now and have lost sleep over them. Redoing and rethinking, trying to please the client. Once they are finished, I hope to take a break from commissions for a few weeks. Thanks for doing this video Betty - wonderful.
I'm sorry to hear that you're losing sleep over them, Sallie. It sounds like you'll need more than a few weeks before doing them again. Thanks so much for sharing!
So interesting to watch Betty. Oh wow I feel your stress! When you talked about it all the uneasy feelings and knots in my stomach came back to me when I used to get asked - back when I did representational art and do pet portraits! I found it so stressful often having to do the painting several times. Never again!
Right?! It takes the joy out of creating. I've flopped back and forth since I created this video. Recently, I stopped again. I think that'll be the last time---I hope!
Hi Betty…I’m in the process of building my “body of work” so I can gain confidence and credibility and have enough to sell (with originals and prints) and that represents who I am as an artist. I do think for some artist’s, and I’d be one of them, taking commissions would be a distraction and stress that may inhibit your artistic journey and take away the joy out of the reason for wanting to ”do art” in the first place. So good for you. I can tell the way you talk about your decision to stop taking commissions that it was a great decision for YOU. And like you said, “never say never” if you want to do them again or once in a while, you certainly can. Thanks for sharing this with your YT viewers!
Thank you for making this video. My own journey through commissioned work is almost identical to yours. I turned down the last request I had even though at that time I really needed the money, I didn't need the stress. I may do commissions again, of I take up portraiture painting, but not for my intuitive work.
Merci Betty pour ce partage d’expérience! Je comprends tellement bien votre ressenti. Je me vois d’ailleurs très bien vivre le même stress pour des commandes spécifiques. Bonne continuation et merci pour toutes vos vidéos enrichissantes et votre générosité à partager votre expérience. ❤😘
As usual your information is interesting, informative and ‘Frank’. I see from the comments that I and most folks agreee... commission work can stilt the creative process.
Thank you Betty, this video was awesome and although I watch you paint this was the first of your information videos I have watched. I absolutely adore you in the video. Your calm, informative, and assuring voice is commendable
I love this video! I love your willingness to share your amazing gift with us. When I saw a video of yours for the first time, it changed me!!! There is one video that you have that I play every time I paint an abstract AND EVERYTIME my work turns out different. Having said all that, this is WHY I don’t like doing commissions either: My pieces never turn out the same. So if someone sees something I have painted that they like, unless they buy a print, they 117% for sure will not get a similar piece. Commissions are too much pressure for me too. I want to please people. So I have come to the conclusion, that if someone wants to buy my work, it will have to be something I already have finished. Thank you for all that you do to inspire us to be better artist. May God bless you double and triple! 🙏🙏🙏
Totally understand where you're coming from, Shannon! It's very hard when you're a people please (that's me, too!) and you put yourself under a lot of pressure to create. I'm so happy that you're enjoying my videos and have one favorite!
What a great video. I love your art. I completely agree with your message. I do soul guided paintings & it would be impossible for me to take any requests on a commissioned piece. I don’t think I’d be able to get out of my own way if I did. I never know myself what a piece will look like or even the technique I’ll be using. I tell my clients that don’t take requests of any kind, explaining that I’m not their artist if that’s important to them. I’ve been blessed, those who seek my work fully understand and respect my creative process. Keep making your beautiful art, you are such a gift. Thank you 💖
Thank you for sharing that with me, Nicole! It's wonderful that you have been successful without the need to do commissioned work. I appreciate your sweet note! Thanks!
Hi Betty ! Wow I can relate so much to what you covered in this video. Especially with the commissions, and the pressure I would put on myself to please people. Even though our art styles are worlds apart, we as artists go through the same struggles. Thank you.
Yes, we sure do! It's hard to not put pressure on myself. Although, since I recorded that video, I have gone back to doing some commissions. I just finished two 6x6 foot canvases. Thankfully, the client loved them!
Thank you Betty! You are a wealth of knowledge....and you share it so freely! I love to create....not even caring about selling....so far! But I can already see what a commission piece would do to me!! Soo, since this is out of the equation....i'll keep creating. Love from down under ❤
Fantastic HELPFUL vid! Thanks Betty… not only are you a wonderful artist and creator but your business views have certainly boosted my knowledge on the challenging subject👯♀️✨THANK YOU!!!!!
Thanks for sharing, i just finished a logo artwork commission before checking out Louise Fletcher's free Find Your Joy workshop that finished today and realized the same thing - I want to focus on finding my creative joy and that is just not possible with commission work. I love the direction you have taken your artwork - our creative journeys can be such fun when we are not bound by others' expectations and we can focus on just our own intuitive approach. Best wishes to you and yours and happy creating!!
Thanks so much for sharing, Jan! I totally agree that finding your creative joy is important and difficult to do when creating for someone else. Focus on you for now! (Louise is great!)
Hi Betty, I just found your videos today and I love them. I started painting this year to take my mind off of all the craziness going on in the world at the moment. I'd like to thank you for making your videos so easy to understand. Going to watch all your videos. Your abstract paintings are beautiful
Hi Betty, another really helpful video! Thanks so much : ) I also learned a lot from doing commissions, mainly about myself, and my process. At that time I was making abstract landscapes in handmade paper, and I was up for it. That was MANY years ago, and I have since decided that I needed to just be into my own process, no as a painter, and didn't want to have to worry about pleasing someone else's expectations. I really feel like I lost my way, my personal vision, as an artist, in trying to please someone else. I only paint for myself now, and allow my self to go wherever my inspiration is. I have my own business where customer service is crucial, and I want my art to be free to be whatever it is. Doing commissions taught me a lot!! It was a great video that I could really relate to! Thanks so much for all of your information on a myriad of subjects for artists : ) SUPER helpful! (and yes, Bob Burridge is a great teacher, and a So Fun to watch & listen to !)
Thank you for sharing your experiences, Sarah! I agree...one leans a lot about themselves when doing commissions. I'm glad to hear that you listened to your heart and that you're now creating for yourself!
Wow Betty, I recently have been asking myself the same question. I've recently closed taking them, and was going to open them again, but only because I feel like I HAVE to... They stress me out so much, so like you I may again not for awhile. Thanks for posting this! Ps just found your channel and I'm subbed now, I'm loving your content! 💙
Hi Sandy! Thanks for subscribing! As I said, commissions are hard. If you can not do them, then don't. Or at least take some necessary breaks so that you can focus on creating for yourself.
Thank you Betty for all your beautiful insights and tips!!🥰 Love your work and videos!! I totally agree with you, it produces a kind of pressure that its not beneficial for the flow of the creative process.
Thank you so much for posting this! it’s 3 am here and I’m awake stressing about a commission I was asked to do yesterday. They are requesting an 8’x5’ 😱. I feel almost like a newbie and so many of the points you raised are going through my head. Bottom line, I think you’re right, I’m going to remove the lure and go with my gut! You should have heard me right after they asked. It was like they dropped a bomb and I was sputtering! Haha yikes! It’s very flattering, but to your point it’s taking out some of your creativity and enjoyment too, too constrained! Thank you Betty, love and appreciate all your efforts and work! Maybe I can go back to bed now! 🤣
Oh no! I hope you got some sleep. Yes, commissioned work can also cause sleepless nights...I forgot to mention that! What ever you do or decide to do, I hope that it's what you truly want.
Thank you Betty. I appreciate you getting right to the point and making a shorter video. I’m all about the 25 minutes or less these days. I will not do commission work even id the “client” is insistent. I feel it compromises my artistic style by adapting to their vision. It’s very much a compliment to have someone pursue your work, however, the stress level of satisfying someone else’s vision is not worth the revenue. 😉 In my opinion ❤️❤️ thx again. I love your intuitive process
Well said, Jan! We have to do what works best for each of us as individuals. I learned that my personality doesn't mix well with commissioned work! 😜 The clients were always wonderful, but it just doesn't work for me.
I totally feel the same way about commissions! I am a beginning, hobby artist but have had friends ask for some commission work. It’s very flattering but took all the fun out of painting trying to please my customers. I wanted to ensure they felt like it was money well spent, but I’ve decided not to accept any more for a while. I love seeing your work. It is so happy and feels so free. I paint watercolor botanicals, so quite the opposite. 🤣 Thank you for sharing your journey. Happy painting!
They sure are hard, Deborah! However, it's a good experience. I have done them on and off over the years. I'm trying to get to a point where I only do commissions if the person allows me to create intuitively. It's tough! Thanks so much for watching and I wish you all the best!
Hi Betty, wonderful insights into the stressful world of commission 'treadmill' - a treadmill you have thankfully hopped off. Listening to your outline, I feel that if any artist wants to paint on commission; then there must be a definite financial benefit for the artist. So at the very least the surcharge (in your scenario 25%) would be stipulated on the agreement as irredeemable - so the client settles that upfront. That way, whether or not the customer likes the finished piece, they agree and understand that they need to commit to the artist - not the work of art. My personal opinion is this; that a commission should be undertaken on the basis that the customer has some understanding and attraction based NOT on the commissioned piece BUT on the body of work and the artists unique approach to their work. The customer then commits to a commission NOT on whether they will 'like' the end product - the creative piece BUT on the basis that the client wants to take away a small piece of the artist overall creative output. They invested in the commission because they love the artists unique approach and expression or simply that they believe that the artist has a future and that they want to purchase a work for its future value - that end value may only be realised once the artist is long dead! The best stress free scenario for a artist, is to paint purely for their own need to express and then once they have a strong body of work to then find a gallery to represent them and have a one man or shared exhibition. A person visiting a gallery and viewing creative pieces does so without any strings attached. When they purchase a piece from a gallery, they do so for two reasons; 1) they are a serious collector and collect because they have knowledge of the market; or 2) they simply fall in love with a piece and they have the means to purchase on the spot. Young 'green' artists with no exposure are the most vulnerable - as such they are often caught between a rock and a hard place - they need to survive; especially if they have no financial support; so they are subject to abuse by clients and galleries. Which applies to artists in all fields of creativity. For this reason I support the idea of Universal Basic Income for creatives - as the social contract with society should include basic survival support for artists and creatives to avoid the stressful pitfalls of find your niche and market. One of South Africa's most sterling creative icons, Irma Stern, battled to find a serious market for her output. She sold some of her output straight out her gallery. One of South Africa's most wealthy families, who were well acquainted with the creative arts as they were well travelled and exposed to all variations of artistic expression, purchased a large body of her early work at bargain prices. Today Irma Stern's works regularly auction at fantastic heady prices - in the multi millions of SA Rand! The wealthy family that owned her work today are smiling ear to ear as they have a treasure trove of her work which is valued many thousand times the price they purchased at. At the very least that wealth family have created a private gallery in honour of Stern's work and can be seen by the public in Stellenbosch. Stern however never relied on the sale of her work to survive - as she was born into a reasonably well off family. The lesson to be learnt, is that artist create their best work under stress free conditions - were they can freely express their unique creative flare without fear or favour :-)
Yes! I totally agree with you. I get super stressed out when asked to do a commission. It takes all the joy out of painting for me. One experience I had doing a commission was particularly stressful. The customer asked me to include various random marks on different areas of the painting. I didn't feel good about it but wanted to please the customer. I told her up front about my misgivings regarding adding the marks. I went ahead and made the changes. When I sent her the picture of the changes she said "you were right. I like the painting better the way you had it". Ugh! So, I had to spend more time painting out the changes I had made per her request. That was the last commission I have done. Now if someone asks me if I will do a commission I get a knot in my gut.
Oh, that was a terrible experience. I think clients sometimes don't trust the artist and that just ends up being difficult for everyone. I hope all your future commissions go well!
Great talk. I have been doing commissions for about 5 years now, and just about a month ago, decided to let myself be ok with not doing them. I have been doing custom work for about 20 years(as a florist previously), and no matter how many times I do custom work, the stress about kills me. I just want so badly for the client to love the work, that I self-destruct with stress! I wish there was a way to eliminate that, because it was a nice source of guaranteed income, for the most part. Alas, life is too short to live it being stressed out about art. Like you said, that is the opposite of intuitive art. It's also the opposite of why I love art...I paint to relax, and be inspired, not to be stressed!
Well said, Maria. I also self-destruct with stress over wanting to make sure a client was head over heals in love with their piece of art. Sounds like we both made good decisions based on our own needs. Stay well!
Good for you, Betty! I thought I hated doing commissions was because so many of them were outside my brand. But yours were within your brand and they were still stressful!! I say “no” to commissions too!
Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge on commissions, wish I had known this a year back, lol, after my first attempt at engaging in one and I certainly can’t see myself rushing into another?
Hi Betty, l enjoyed this video, and very helpful with sound advice for those who want to do commissions. I do feel that our paintings come from within ourselves and are a spontaneous experience. I have done two commissions and never again. The clients were happy, but l wasnt 🤨 it was as you say quite stressful. I found the flow stopped while l was working on my own paintings. Well done for making your wise decision. I so enjoy watching your videos, and thank you for your generosity. Love from Oban, Scotland
I loove your art Betty. This video was very interesting to watch. And you look like very nice possitive person. I actually had a similar experience like you. It’s just too stresful for me to make commisions. I wish you amazing day and lots of inspiration around you.
Thank you sooo much for sharing. I too have decided from the getgo not to do commissions because I would put incredible stress on myself. Your work is lovely and inspirational. Stay well and enjoy ❤👍
Hey there love your work and your video really cleared up some questions I had about selling art work. I don’t think I am quite good enough yet , so I will keep practicing. Thanks for the video!
Smart woman! I totally agree with being intuitive as an artist - very hard to do an abstract commission and be totally intuitive at the same time! And I would find commissions way too stressful!
Thank you so much Betty for sharing your thoughts on this topic. It is something that I struggle with on a regular basis. I’m not sure if this has been asked but I am curious to know how you turn down commission requests from family or friends or social media following. I really find it very hard to say no. So I take on the stress and discomfort in producing art.
I'm so glad the video was helpful to you, Tammy! I have learned to tell folks that creating intuitive artwork with requirements no longer works for me, so I'm not open to doing commissions any longer. Most folks totally understand. I'm sure you'll find a way to tell folks yourself. Maybe write up a response that you can use (or tweak a little) for the next time someone asks. Wishing you all the best!
Thanks a lot this video is very helpful and I agree with you, I have only done once and I was so insecure that I made 3 versions to choose, luckily the customer love them and bought 2 but I didn't like the stress
Thank you for all this good information. I have been following Bob Burridge for some time and love his Bob Blasts. I am an abstract painter somewhere between your style (bright colors) and Bob's ( lots of collage and figurative work). I want to try some products such as scarves and wonder if you could share your scarf vendor. I've looked at a few online and was a little intimidated by their requirements. I no longer do commissions either for similar reasons as yours. I made the mistake of committing to a portrait of someone deceased. The photo provided was just terrible. I ended up taking it to a photo restoration person who upgraded and enlarged it for me. Now if I do any work for a friend I do it as a gift and charge them only for expenses.
Hi Sharon! Isn't Bob great?! I'm using www.shopvida.com for my art scarves. I'll be honest, the upload process isn't easy and there are extra steps to take to ensure your image is of high quality. But, once it's done, it's done. Sounds like you had some interesting commissions. I don't blame you for no longer wanting to do them. I feel so much better creating without worrying about them.
@@BettyFranksArt Thanks Betty, I'll check out shopvida. You've been so helpful to me and I truly appreciate it. Yes, Bob B. is a fine teacher with the most impressive background and qualifications. He's a gem.
I don’t like commissions either. I was asked to do one recently and the friend was very specific about the colours, texture and look of the painting. I felt the request was too specific and I was bound to disappoint which could cause a problem.
I feel the same. Commissions are really not fun and very stressful. We want to make the client happy with the work and if we aren't on the same page of how it's suppose to look, then its no good. "can you add more of this, or take some of that away, etc." STRESSFUL. I am happiest and more creative when I am intuitivly painting.
I did my first large commission last year. They had seen one of my paintings and wanted something similar but a lot bigger. A LOT bigger. I consulted with them in their home so we had a clear understanding of colors and where the piece would go. So far so good. During the process the client discussed doing some additional work when it was finished. I sent them an image before I got to the varnish stage. "It looks awesome" they said. I finished it, delivered it, was paid, but never heard from them again. It breaks my heart to think that maybe they didn't really like it as much. Or they didn't like it enough to come back for those additional works. But who knows. The bottom line was that the whole experience really "scarred" me. I have done some commissions since, but that particular one will always be the one that I can't seem to get past.
Totally understand, Carol! I've had that happen to me, too. I think folks get busy with their lives and forget to send pictures (I always ask for those) of the artwork once it's installed. I'm sure they're happy! Thanks for watching and sharing your story!
I have evolved on this commission issue. 14 years ago I vehemently was against clients dictating colors. "My bathroom is light yellow I would like a royal blue". I showed them 12 blues it was no. Secondly I didn't believe paintings were interior decorating. You looked at a painting and had an emotional feeling. I have come full circle. I always plan on doing a study paintings which usually sell quickly. So by the time I get to the commission we are on solid ground. I send pictures and communicate on messenger. They don't like something I will consider changing it. I am never going to let them dictate me to go in a direction i don't want to go. But then I have a full time job..lol. I am to the point where people trust me and if they don't like something I haven't gone too far. Getting money up front is essential. My costs are usually close to nothing but I hate to be taken advantage of. Thx
I appreciate this video. I’m a complete newbie but I’ve been learning about the business of art and I have a feeling that this would also be stressful to me as well. By the way, you are beautiful. ❤️
@@BettyFranksArt I love your channel and your work. I’ve wanted to paint all my life but I’m just starting. Don’t know if I’ll ever sell anything ,but I’m enthralled with all the knowledge out here I’m just soaking it in. I’m up there in age , but doesn’t matter. Everyone in this community is so great. I’m so excited about learning everything I can. Thank you truly, it is so appreciated.
I agree with everything you've said. I've been down the exact same road some 25 years ago. I did an 8'x8' commission that was rejected. I was out $6,000. I eventually ended up giving it away to a friend of mine. I've never done one since. When you work primarily by free association, painting 'by order,' really affects the whole process. Art is so all so objective anyway. Finally. The business of art is something very few artists are any good at and no graduate program teaches it. So, if you don't really need the money. Don't do it. Just paint 🙃
Thank you ,thank you for sharing these thoughts and tips ,I would love to have a contract template but wouldn't know where to start! Stupidly I don't see the " links" posted to the Word doc etc, so sorry to bug you if anyone else can help me .
Here you go, Sandi: Commission Contract (Unfortunately, I wasn't able to upload a word doc to my website. This is a PDF file. Copy the content and paste it into word or any word processing software to make changes.): www.bettyfranksart.com/commission-contract
Yes, commissions are sometimes hatd...but I still do it....sometimes people ask, if I can change this and that...even I thought, the painting is finished. Ja, usually it worked out good. Many greetings ❤🙋
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Thanks Betty! I agree commissions remove the intuitive joyful aspect of making art. I have done many and they have all worked out. Thankfully. But they just aren’t as satisfying.
Fortunately, I've had many that allowed me to be intuitive and playful (well, at least the first few stages!). I feel a sense of relief right now that I won't be taking on any in the near future. I may change my mind, however!
I 100% agree with all of this! You like to use the phrase “it speaks to my heart”. And that’s what art should do. I believe most people who ask for a commission have a vision that is ethereal and unattainable in the back of their mind and they are unable to explain it or maybe they are even unaware of it themselves. Their heart is a mystery. But the end result is the same- no matter how wonderful the finished work is, it WILL NOT speak to their heart because there is some secret within their longing that remains unheard. I have been on the same journey with my own work and have reached the same place as you- no commissions- at least not in the foreseeable future. Plus, when I look at my past work I can always “see” when I painted scared! Kind of like a dog being able to smell fear, these works just reek of it. Thank you for sharing so much of yourself, it is inspiring me to do more of the same. ❤️ 🎨 🙏
Thank you for sharing that with me, Angel. I'm glad that you're doing what works best for you so that you can express yourself freely through your art. Keep on creating!
I agree! I have never liked doing commissions for the same reasons!
Yup, they're hard to do!
Wonderful talk! When you are a hyper people pleaser (I am one too) commission work will never work. I totally agree with you. The stress of it all takes the wind out of me along with the spark that makes the work enjoyable and that will never be a good mix in the end. Loved this! xo
So true and well said, Josyan! Thanks for sharing!
Betty you are so awesome. Always so generous with what you know! This totally expresses my feelings and why I don’t like painting commissions. I also, before I started painting myself, had two different artists do commissions for me. I was disappointed both times and I had bought previous paintings from each of them. They never knew, but it was a lesson for me. I have learned not to do commissions for anyone and not to commission anyone, lol. I want to see it complete, love it when I see it, and not be able to walk away without buying it. Thank you again for all you share with everyone. ❤️
You share a great point about your own experience in commissioning artwork! Thank you so much for watching and sharing!
Great ideas. I am a new artist. So far I have 3 commissioned paintings. The idea about showing progress at 80 percent done is great. I was sending 3 progress pics. I can totally relate to your feelings about feeling stressed. We as artists have a great attachment emotionally to our work. Mine comes from my heart and soul and my spirtual being. Consumers look at art differently
I want this color or that blaw blaw. I am straight forward with my work. If customer wants a cookie cutter painting I am going to turn them down. Thanks Betty. I admire you and your work so much
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You've got the right attitude towards doing commissions! Thanks so much for watching and commenting, Sandra!
Yes! Was a nervous wreck before during and after commission bc of all the above you say!
I know that feeling!
Thank you for this great advices. I have been asked to do commission work and I did it but now I change my way to respond to those request. I ask the clients what they like about my work, favorite art pieces, favorite colors, size, etc. Than I would integrate some of their answers in my new pieces. I send them the pictures of my new artworks before I posted them on my Instagram and FB and before I send them to the gallery. So far, I did sell few pieces this way and the clients felt privileged that they had a preview of my work. As for me, its less stressful this way.
That's awesome, Johanne! Sounds like you have created a process that works well for you and your clients Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you Betty. You know how I feel about your honesty and transparency. And thank you for having the character to give Bob Burridge such a good plug. That guy invests in others so freely and consistently. I appreciate you doing that.
Thank you so much, Harmony! Bob is a very kind and giving person! When I took his workshop, I said to myself that I wanted to be like that...sharing what I've learned over the year.
Well said and I totally agree! Your work has a beautiful spontaneity about it. Just continue to foster the freedom that comes with the joy of moving the painting in any direction you like. I look forward to seeing what you create!
Yes! Thank you! I appreciate your kind words!
You're the best, darling Betty. Thank you for being you, in all your honesty, authenticity, and generosity. 💖
You are so welcome, Ulrike! Thanks so much for watching!
Taking a break from commissions is very valid if they stress you out
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Awe, you gave Bob a plug!! You guys are both awesome!
Awe...thanks!! Bob is fabulous!
Oh I SO loved this video. I’m a brand new artist and I honestly have no interest in doing commissions. I just can’t even imagine painting by being told what to create vs painting from pure inspiration. It’s been selling by word of mouth so far.
I do appreciate all that you shared regarding how you’ve done commissions. That was incredibly insightful in case I choose to go that route at some point.
I can see how commissions may even be a challenge that helps you grow as well but the way it feels just conflicts with how painting from genuine heartfelt passion feels like.
Thanks SO much for this as it has truly expanded how I thought about selling my art.
You're very welcome! I'm so glad the information was helpful to you!
What excellent advice from a wonderful artist! Love your work and that you are generous in sharing your knowledge. It's a very competitive world in art and so refreshing to be able to listen to your insight and experiences. Thank you!
Thank you so much, Sara! I truly believe that there's lots of room (and buyers) to sell your artwork. I'm glad you liked the video!
I agree about not doing commissions for people. It's stressful to try to please people. Thank you for sharing your feelings on this issue.
Yes...very stressful! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
This is the video that I love. I really think I’m going to tell the client that I can’t do it. I think if the piece wasn’t so big (5x7 feet) I might be able to do it and it wouldn’t stress me out so much. It’s not fun when you wake up and get ready to work on a piece and dreading it. I want to add joy to my art not dreadfulness!! Thank you Betty.
Totally agree with you, Jo! I'm sure if you tell the client just what you're been telling me that she'll totally understand. You got this!
Thanks for your honesty. I have had a number of commissions lately, no contracts and all have sold however I don’t enjoy the process it’s too planned for me. I enjoy the final result when my customer is happy and pay me… However when my clients choose one or two others I’ve done to use as inspo …I am so flattered but the panic as I have no idea how I did them it’s all just intuitive mood in the moment 😆 so they take many more hours than the original pieces ever did… Thankyou I feel better knowing that’s normal! 💕 At the moment the income is great but hopefully I can stop doing them one day 😀💕
I completely understand where you're coming from, Kristine! I often asked the client which piece(s) of mine they liked the best that I could use as the inspiration. But, I often felt like I needed to create it to be as close to that piece as possible. Commissions are not for the weak of heart! Glad to hear it's a good source of income for you!
Totally agree! I knew before the first request for a custom jewelry piece happened that I could not create to someone else’s specifications. I knew it would suck the joy right out of it for me. So I said no from the beginning. However, I was already retired from my “day” job and receiving a great pension so I did not need to take commissions - so was very fortunate in that regard. Great advice here Betty! Love your work!!
Hi Gail! You're lucky to have been in a position where you didn't need the commissioned work. I know a lot of artists getting started with their art business need the income. It's a decision each person has to make. I'd say that I needed it in the beginning, but now I'm finally at a place where I don't have to do them. Thanks for sharing your experiences!
it's amazing how we artists can serve as conduits or channels of ideas from our clients, I feel our spirit taps into theirs, and into what they truly want and need...And even when "you" don't think the piece is "good enough", it's a whole another story for your client! My commissioned experience has been pretty great too, I feel so lucky! I do what I call Intuitive Soul Portraits, where I paint the energy of my clients as I perceive it (I am an energy intuitive and healer) this gives me such freedom because they know beforehand the final work will be unique and spontaneous ! thanks for this insightful video! 💜
That's such a great way to offer commissions! I'm so happy to hear that you found a process that works well for you and your clients!
Hi Betty, great video! I applaud your decision to back away from commissions. My own art career was in the corporate world. It paid well, was challenging, gratifying but for me - very stressful. I was always creating to "please someone else." I have retired from that world and only create the art which pleases me-myself-and-I. SUCH a relief! That it also pleases other people and they wish to buy my art is simply icing on the cake.
That's awesome! Like you, I spent many years in corporate America in high stress roles. I was just thinking last night how doing commissions was very similar to the stress I felt working for someone else. I'm feeling so much better about my choice (and other choices) as an artist. Thank you for sharing that with me!
Thank you so much for taking time to share all this good info Betty!!! I know what you are saying, I am a people pleaser too, sounds like the stress of commissions takes away from the fun of the art, not for me either
We're on the same page! Thanks for watching and sharing, Pamela!
Thank you. Best talk on commissions. I go back and forth on how I feel about them. I have done some, but, it takes some of the fun out of the painting for me. However, I still take them occasionally for people are very flexible. Thank you for this talk.
Yes! I have gone back to creating commissioned art--with the folks who allow me to create the way I want to create. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this, Betty! I've been following you for a while and love how you clearly and concisely cover what worked and didn't work for you. I've just started my art business and I just was approached for a commission of 5-6 paintings! This video and your video on pricing are a huge help. I appreciate this content and your amazing work!
Yay! Congratulations on the commissions! That's wonderful! Wishing you tons of success!
Hello Betty, thankyou for your generous, insightful perspective on commission paintings. I'm taking a break from cfeating art after some stressful commissions and exhibitions. I'm emotionally exhausted from trying to please everyone else. So it's time to recharge and enjoy family and friends for a week or two. I appreciate all of your effort with the TH-cam videos. Thanks!
Sounds like a well deserved break! Glad you found the video informative!
Thank you for sharing Betty. This is incredibly valuable information and very generous of you to share. Your videos inspired me to jump into creating abstract art which is so freeing and joyous for me. I love your work and your spirit!
You are so welcome, Monique! I'm so happy you found value in this video. Keep on creating!!
I will join the crowd. I am doing a set of commissions right now and have lost sleep over them. Redoing and rethinking, trying to please the client. Once they are finished, I hope to take a break from commissions for a few weeks. Thanks for doing this video Betty - wonderful.
I'm sorry to hear that you're losing sleep over them, Sallie. It sounds like you'll need more than a few weeks before doing them again. Thanks so much for sharing!
So interesting to watch Betty.
Oh wow I feel your stress! When you talked about it all the uneasy feelings and knots in my stomach came back to me when I used to get asked - back when I did representational art and do pet portraits!
I found it so stressful often having to do the painting several times. Never again!
Right?! It takes the joy out of creating. I've flopped back and forth since I created this video. Recently, I stopped again. I think that'll be the last time---I hope!
Hi Betty…I’m in the process of building my “body of work” so I can gain confidence and credibility and have enough to sell (with originals and prints) and that represents who I am as an artist. I do think for some artist’s, and I’d be one of them, taking commissions would be a distraction and stress that may inhibit your artistic journey and take away the joy out of the reason for wanting to ”do art” in the first place. So good for you. I can tell the way you talk about your decision to stop taking commissions that it was a great decision for YOU. And like you said, “never say never” if you want to do them again or once in a while, you certainly can. Thanks for sharing this with your YT viewers!
Hi Nancy! It was definitely the right decision for me. I think it's different for everyone. Thanks so much for commenting and watching!
Thank you for making this video. My own journey through commissioned work is almost identical to yours. I turned down the last request I had even though at that time I really needed the money, I didn't need the stress.
I may do commissions again, of I take up portraiture painting, but not for my intuitive work.
Glad it was helpful! Yes, totally agree with you. It's hard to do commissions for intuitive work (when there are requirements!). Stay well!
Thank you. Betty. I really enjoy hearing your perspective.
You are so welcome! Thanks so much for watching!
Merci Betty pour ce partage d’expérience! Je comprends tellement bien votre ressenti. Je me vois d’ailleurs très bien vivre le même stress pour des commandes spécifiques. Bonne continuation et merci pour toutes vos vidéos enrichissantes et votre générosité à partager votre expérience. ❤😘
Thank you kindly, Valerie! I appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
I am very glad to see you back at work.Best
Thank you so much, Phan!
As usual your information is interesting, informative and ‘Frank’. I see from the comments that I and most folks agreee... commission work can stilt the creative process.
Thanks for that, Jude! Yes...lots of great comments with folks sharing their experiences!
Thank you Betty, this video was awesome and although I watch you paint this was the first of your information videos I have watched. I absolutely adore you in the video. Your calm, informative, and assuring voice is commendable
Thank you for sharing knowledge and experience. It was very helpful🎨♥️
Glad it was helpful! And, I really appreciate your kindness!
You're very welcome, Linda!
I love this video! I love your willingness to share your amazing gift with us. When I saw a video of yours for the first time, it changed me!!! There is one video that you have that I play every time I paint an abstract AND EVERYTIME my work turns out different.
Having said all that, this is WHY I don’t like doing commissions either: My pieces never turn out the same. So if someone sees something I have painted that they like, unless they buy a print, they 117% for sure will not get a similar piece.
Commissions are too much pressure for me too. I want to please people. So I have come to the conclusion, that if someone wants to buy my work, it will have to be something I already have finished.
Thank you for all that you do to inspire us to be better artist. May God bless you double and triple! 🙏🙏🙏
Totally understand where you're coming from, Shannon! It's very hard when you're a people please (that's me, too!) and you put yourself under a lot of pressure to create. I'm so happy that you're enjoying my videos and have one favorite!
What a great video. I love your art. I completely agree with your message. I do soul guided paintings & it would be impossible for me to take any requests on a commissioned piece. I don’t think I’d be able to get out of my own way if I did. I never know myself what a piece will look like or even the technique I’ll be using. I tell my clients that don’t take requests of any kind, explaining that I’m not their artist if that’s important to them. I’ve been blessed, those who seek my work fully understand and respect my creative process. Keep making your beautiful art, you are such a gift. Thank you 💖
Thank you for sharing that with me, Nicole! It's wonderful that you have been successful without the need to do commissioned work. I appreciate your sweet note! Thanks!
Hi Betty ! Wow I can relate so much to what you covered in this video. Especially with the commissions, and the pressure I would put on myself to please people. Even though our art styles are worlds apart, we as artists go through the same struggles. Thank you.
Yes, we sure do! It's hard to not put pressure on myself. Although, since I recorded that video, I have gone back to doing some commissions. I just finished two 6x6 foot canvases. Thankfully, the client loved them!
Thanks for sharing, Betty. I totally understand the reasons behind your decision. ❤️
Thank you! I appreciate you watching and commenting!
Thank you Betty! You are a wealth of knowledge....and you share it so freely! I love to create....not even caring about selling....so far!
But I can already see what a commission piece would do to me!! Soo, since this is out of the equation....i'll keep creating. Love from down under ❤
Good decision, Birgit! You know yourself well! Hugs from sunny (and very hot) California!
I am happy that you shared this with us. I feel the same way about commissions.
We seem to be on the same page! Thanks for watching, Janice!
Thank you Betty .... your information is so generous and valuable.....much appreciation.🤗
You are so welcome, Jackie! Glad the information was helpful!
Fantastic HELPFUL vid! Thanks Betty… not only are you a wonderful artist and creator but your business views have certainly boosted my knowledge on the challenging subject👯♀️✨THANK YOU!!!!!
Glad it was helpful, Robyn! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing, i just finished a logo artwork commission before checking out Louise Fletcher's free Find Your Joy workshop that finished today and realized the same thing - I want to focus on finding my creative joy and that is just not possible with commission work. I love the direction you have taken your artwork - our creative journeys can be such fun when we are not bound by others' expectations and we can focus on just our own intuitive approach. Best wishes to you and yours and happy creating!!
Thanks so much for sharing, Jan! I totally agree that finding your creative joy is important and difficult to do when creating for someone else. Focus on you for now! (Louise is great!)
Hello Betty, this video has been SUPER helpful. Your art is so colorful and beautiful! Thank you very much 🖤
You are so welcome, Beverly! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Hi Betty, I just found your videos today and I love them. I started painting this year to take my mind off of all the craziness going on in the world at the moment. I'd like to thank you for making your videos so easy to understand. Going to watch all your videos. Your abstract paintings are beautiful
I'm so happy you found my art and channel, Arielle! Welcome! Glad you're enjoying the videos so far!
Hi Betty, another really helpful video! Thanks so much : ) I also learned a lot from doing commissions, mainly about myself, and my process. At that time I was making abstract landscapes in handmade paper, and I was up for it. That was MANY years ago, and I have since decided that I needed to just be into my own process, no as a painter, and didn't want to have to worry about pleasing someone else's expectations. I really feel like I lost my way, my personal vision, as an artist, in trying to please someone else. I only paint for myself now, and allow my self to go wherever my inspiration is. I have my own business where customer service is crucial, and I want my art to be free to be whatever it is. Doing commissions taught me a lot!! It was a great video that I could really relate to!
Thanks so much for all of your information on a myriad of subjects for artists : ) SUPER helpful! (and yes, Bob Burridge is a great teacher, and a So Fun to watch & listen to !)
Thank you for sharing your experiences, Sarah! I agree...one leans a lot about themselves when doing commissions. I'm glad to hear that you listened to your heart and that you're now creating for yourself!
Wow Betty, I recently have been asking myself the same question. I've recently closed taking them, and was going to open them again, but only because I feel like I HAVE to... They stress me out so much, so like you I may again not for awhile. Thanks for posting this! Ps just found your channel and I'm subbed now, I'm loving your content! 💙
Hi Sandy! Thanks for subscribing! As I said, commissions are hard. If you can not do them, then don't. Or at least take some necessary breaks so that you can focus on creating for yourself.
Great info thanks Betty, you are very kind to share so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Betty for all your beautiful insights and tips!!🥰
Love your work and videos!!
I totally agree with you, it produces a kind of pressure that its not beneficial for the flow of the creative process.
You are so welcome, Daniela! Glad the information was helpful to you!
100% agree about the stress with commissions. It completely changes how I feel during the process creating a piece of work.
We're on the same page, Rebecca! Thanks so much for watching and sharing!
Thank you so much for posting this! it’s 3 am here and I’m awake stressing about a commission I was asked to do yesterday. They are requesting an 8’x5’ 😱. I feel almost like a newbie and so many of the points you raised are going through my head. Bottom line, I think you’re right, I’m going to remove the lure and go with my gut! You should have heard me right after they asked. It was like they dropped a bomb and I was sputtering! Haha yikes! It’s very flattering, but to your point it’s taking out some of your creativity and enjoyment too, too constrained! Thank you Betty, love and appreciate all your efforts and work! Maybe I can go back to bed now! 🤣
Oh no! I hope you got some sleep. Yes, commissioned work can also cause sleepless nights...I forgot to mention that! What ever you do or decide to do, I hope that it's what you truly want.
Thank you Betty. I appreciate you getting right to the point and making a shorter video. I’m all about the 25 minutes or less these days.
I will not do commission work even id the “client” is insistent. I feel it compromises my artistic style by adapting to their vision. It’s very much a compliment to have someone pursue your work, however, the stress level of satisfying someone else’s vision is not worth the revenue. 😉 In my opinion ❤️❤️ thx again. I love your intuitive process
Well said, Jan! We have to do what works best for each of us as individuals. I learned that my personality doesn't mix well with commissioned work! 😜 The clients were always wonderful, but it just doesn't work for me.
I totally feel the same way about commissions! I am a beginning, hobby artist but have had friends ask for some commission work. It’s very flattering but took all the fun out of painting trying to please my customers. I wanted to ensure they felt like it was money well spent, but I’ve decided not to accept any more for a while. I love seeing your work. It is so happy and feels so free. I paint watercolor botanicals, so quite the opposite. 🤣 Thank you for sharing your journey. Happy painting!
They sure are hard, Deborah! However, it's a good experience. I have done them on and off over the years. I'm trying to get to a point where I only do commissions if the person allows me to create intuitively. It's tough! Thanks so much for watching and I wish you all the best!
You expressed how I felt! Thank you 😊
I'm so glad! Thanks so much for watching!
I really appreciate your videos. Thank you for taking the time to help those of us who are new to this world of art.
It's my pleasure, Carolyn! I appreciate you watching!
Hi Betty, wonderful insights into the stressful world of commission 'treadmill' - a treadmill you have thankfully hopped off. Listening to your outline, I feel that if any artist wants to paint on commission; then there must be a definite financial benefit for the artist. So at the very least the surcharge (in your scenario 25%) would be stipulated on the agreement as irredeemable - so the client settles that upfront. That way, whether or not the customer likes the finished piece, they agree and understand that they need to commit to the artist - not the work of art. My personal opinion is this; that a commission should be undertaken on the basis that the customer has some understanding and attraction based NOT on the commissioned piece BUT on the body of work and the artists unique approach to their work. The customer then commits to a commission NOT on whether they will 'like' the end product - the creative piece BUT on the basis that the client wants to take away a small piece of the artist overall creative output. They invested in the commission because they love the artists unique approach and expression or simply that they believe that the artist has a future and that they want to purchase a work for its future value - that end value may only be realised once the artist is long dead! The best stress free scenario for a artist, is to paint purely for their own need to express and then once they have a strong body of work to then find a gallery to represent them and have a one man or shared exhibition. A person visiting a gallery and viewing creative pieces does so without any strings attached. When they purchase a piece from a gallery, they do so for two reasons; 1) they are a serious collector and collect because they have knowledge of the market; or 2) they simply fall in love with a piece and they have the means to purchase on the spot. Young 'green' artists with no exposure are the most vulnerable - as such they are often caught between a rock and a hard place - they need to survive; especially if they have no financial support; so they are subject to abuse by clients and galleries. Which applies to artists in all fields of creativity. For this reason I support the idea of Universal Basic Income for creatives - as the social contract with society should include basic survival support for artists and creatives to avoid the stressful pitfalls of find your niche and market. One of South Africa's most sterling creative icons, Irma Stern, battled to find a serious market for her output. She sold some of her output straight out her gallery. One of South Africa's most wealthy families, who were well acquainted with the creative arts as they were well travelled and exposed to all variations of artistic expression, purchased a large body of her early work at bargain prices. Today Irma Stern's works regularly auction at fantastic heady prices - in the multi millions of SA Rand! The wealthy family that owned her work today are smiling ear to ear as they have a treasure trove of her work which is valued many thousand times the price they purchased at. At the very least that wealth family have created a private gallery in honour of Stern's work and can be seen by the public in Stellenbosch. Stern however never relied on the sale of her work to survive - as she was born into a reasonably well off family. The lesson to be learnt, is that artist create their best work under stress free conditions - were they can freely express their unique creative flare without fear or favour :-)
Yes, I totally agree with your last line! Thank you for sharing your views, Mike!
Yes! I totally agree with you. I get super stressed out when asked to do a commission. It takes all the joy out of painting for me. One experience I had doing a commission was particularly stressful. The customer asked me to include various random marks on different areas of the painting. I didn't feel good about it but wanted to please the customer. I told her up front about my misgivings regarding adding the marks. I went ahead and made the changes. When I sent her the picture of the changes she said "you were right. I like the painting better the way you had it". Ugh! So, I had to spend more time painting out the changes I had made per her request. That was the last commission I have done. Now if someone asks me if I will do a commission I get a knot in my gut.
Oh, that was a terrible experience. I think clients sometimes don't trust the artist and that just ends up being difficult for everyone. I hope all your future commissions go well!
Thank you for sharing Betty, very insightful and informative. Hope you are enjoying your time in Croatia😀
Glad you liked it, Christine! Yes, having a great time with my parents. Heading back to California next week!
Great talk. I have been doing commissions for about 5 years now, and just about a month ago, decided to let myself be ok with not doing them. I have been doing custom work for about 20 years(as a florist previously), and no matter how many times I do custom work, the stress about kills me. I just want so badly for the client to love the work, that I self-destruct with stress! I wish there was a way to eliminate that, because it was a nice source of guaranteed income, for the most part. Alas, life is too short to live it being stressed out about art. Like you said, that is the opposite of intuitive art. It's also the opposite of why I love art...I paint to relax, and be inspired, not to be stressed!
Well said, Maria. I also self-destruct with stress over wanting to make sure a client was head over heals in love with their piece of art. Sounds like we both made good decisions based on our own needs. Stay well!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights! I appreciate how open you are. I always learn something important from your videos.
You are so welcome, Stephanie! Thanks so much!
Good for you, Betty! I thought I hated doing commissions was because so many of them were outside my brand. But yours were within your brand and they were still stressful!! I say “no” to commissions too!
Hi Carol! I once did a commission that was outside my brand and it was sooooo painful. I made the decision then to never do that again.
Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge on commissions, wish I had known this a year back, lol, after my first attempt at engaging in one and I certainly can’t see myself rushing into another?
You're welcome, Misha! Glad to hear that the video was helpful to you.
Love Bob Burridge, been subbed to him for years and he's a great guy as well as painter. His website has wonderful painting series on it too.
Thank you for watching!
Hi Betty, l enjoyed this video, and very helpful with sound advice for those who want to do commissions. I do feel that our paintings come from within ourselves and are a spontaneous experience. I have done two commissions and never again. The clients were happy, but l wasnt 🤨 it was as you say quite stressful. I found the flow stopped while l was working on my own paintings. Well done for making your wise decision. I so enjoy watching your videos, and thank you for your generosity. Love from Oban, Scotland
Thank you for sharing your experiences, Alison! Hugs to you from Croatia (and soon California...heading home next week!)!
What a very informative video. Thank you so much for all the links as well!
You're very welcome! Thanks so much!
I loove your art Betty. This video was very interesting to watch. And you look like very nice possitive person. I actually had a similar experience like you. It’s just too stresful for me to make commisions. I wish you amazing day and lots of inspiration around you.
Thank you so much! I appreciate your kindness!
I totally understand you! For the same reasons, I would never even consider taking commissions.
You're smart! No commissions!!
No, no, no commission work for me. Thank you so much for this info, it really cleared up my goals. I shall shed this pipe dream at once! :)
Glad to hear that it helped clarify your goals! Thanks for watching!
Thank you sooo much for sharing. I too have decided from the getgo not to do commissions because I would put incredible stress on myself. Your work is lovely and inspirational. Stay well and enjoy ❤👍
You made a wise decision! Thanks so much for watching!
@@BettyFranksArt Thank you for your reply 👍❤
Hey there love your work and your video really cleared up some questions I had about selling art work. I don’t think I am quite good enough yet , so I will keep practicing. Thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful, Linda! Keep on creating...you'll get to the point where you'll be ready to sell your art!
@@BettyFranksArt Hey thanks again. How do you decide what your style is?
There are a few that I would feel comfortable to sell but I like them too much. Lol
Hi Betty,
this has been such a great informative video ..love your work thank you for sharing ..have a great week
Glad it was helpful, Shane! I appreciate you watching!
You are very right! Thank you for this video!
Thanks so much for watching, Peter!
Appreciate your honesty
Thanks so much for watching, Bonnie!
Smart woman! I totally agree with being intuitive as an artist - very hard to do an abstract commission and be totally intuitive at the same time! And I would find commissions way too stressful!
Karen!! Trying to be intuitive and fulfill requirements go against each other. Thanks for watching, Janina!
The (internal) PRESSURE! 😆
Right?! No fun!
Thanks for the info and for your honesty!
Always! Thank you so much, Michelle!
Beautiful artwork behind you
Thank you so much! You can see them here: www.jcosplace.com/artist-franks
Thank you so much Betty for sharing your thoughts on this topic. It is something that I struggle with on a regular basis. I’m not sure if this has been asked but I am curious to know how you turn down commission requests from family or friends or social media following. I really find it very hard to say no. So I take on the stress and discomfort in producing art.
I'm so glad the video was helpful to you, Tammy! I have learned to tell folks that creating intuitive artwork with requirements no longer works for me, so I'm not open to doing commissions any longer. Most folks totally understand. I'm sure you'll find a way to tell folks yourself. Maybe write up a response that you can use (or tweak a little) for the next time someone asks. Wishing you all the best!
like the painting in the background .
Thanks so much! You can see them in their entirety here: www.jcosplace.com/franks
Very useful information, as usual. Thank you for sharing.
My pleasure! Thank you so much!
Thanks a lot this video is very helpful and I agree with you, I have only done once and I was so insecure that I made 3 versions to choose, luckily the customer love them and bought 2 but I didn't like the stress
That was a great idea to create 3 of them so that the customer can choose! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for all this good information. I have been following Bob Burridge for some time and love his Bob Blasts. I am an abstract painter somewhere between your style (bright colors) and Bob's ( lots of collage and figurative work). I want to try some products such as scarves and wonder if you could share your scarf vendor. I've looked at a few online and was a little intimidated by their requirements. I no longer do commissions either for similar reasons as yours. I made the mistake of committing to a portrait of someone deceased. The photo provided was just terrible. I ended up taking it to a photo restoration person who upgraded and enlarged it for me. Now if I do any work for a friend I do it as a gift and charge them only for expenses.
Hi Sharon! Isn't Bob great?! I'm using www.shopvida.com for my art scarves. I'll be honest, the upload process isn't easy and there are extra steps to take to ensure your image is of high quality. But, once it's done, it's done. Sounds like you had some interesting commissions. I don't blame you for no longer wanting to do them. I feel so much better creating without worrying about them.
@@BettyFranksArt Thanks Betty, I'll check out shopvida. You've been so helpful to me and I truly appreciate it. Yes, Bob B. is a fine teacher with the most impressive background and qualifications. He's a gem.
I don’t like commissions either. I was asked to do one recently and the friend was very specific about the colours, texture and look of the painting. I felt the request was too specific and I was bound to disappoint which could cause a problem.
Wow, that's very specific. Hard to perform with so many restrictions.
I feel the same. Commissions are really not fun and very stressful. We want to make the client happy with the work and if we aren't on the same page of how it's suppose to look, then its no good. "can you add more of this, or take some of that away, etc." STRESSFUL. I am happiest and more creative when I am intuitivly painting.
Yes...exactly! Trying to create someone else's vision when there are many requirements is so difficult. Thanks for sharing, Amy!
thanks for sharing this. I thought I was the only one getting really stress every time i got a commission.
Not at all! There are many of us out there that get very stressed with commissions. Thanks for watching!
Felicidades por hacer caso a tu intuicion. Es mas importante que te encuentres bien y sigas disfrutando el pintar. saludos
Thank you kindly for your response, Perla!
I did my first large commission last year. They had seen one of my paintings and wanted something similar but a lot bigger. A LOT bigger. I consulted with them in their home so we had a clear understanding of colors and where the piece would go. So far so good. During the process the client discussed doing some additional work when it was finished. I sent them an image before I got to the varnish stage. "It looks awesome" they said. I finished it, delivered it, was paid, but never heard from them again. It breaks my heart to think that maybe they didn't really like it as much. Or they didn't like it enough to come back for those additional works. But who knows. The bottom line was that the whole experience really "scarred" me. I have done some commissions since, but that particular one will always be the one that I can't seem to get past.
Totally understand, Carol! I've had that happen to me, too. I think folks get busy with their lives and forget to send pictures (I always ask for those) of the artwork once it's installed. I'm sure they're happy! Thanks for watching and sharing your story!
I have evolved on this commission issue. 14 years ago I vehemently was against clients dictating colors. "My bathroom is light yellow I would like a royal blue". I showed them 12 blues it was no. Secondly I didn't believe paintings were interior decorating. You looked at a painting and had an emotional feeling. I have come full circle. I always plan on doing a study paintings which usually sell quickly. So by the time I get to the commission we are on solid ground. I send pictures and communicate on messenger. They don't like something I will consider changing it. I am never going to let them dictate me to go in a direction i don't want to go. But then I have a full time job..lol. I am to the point where people trust me and if they don't like something I haven't gone too far. Getting money up front is essential. My costs are usually close to nothing but I hate to be taken advantage of. Thx
Sounds like you found a plan that works best for you and your clients, Bob! Nicely done!
great video! love this! thanks!
Thanks so much for watching!
Great advice!
Thanks for watching, Sue!
Very informative video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
I appreciate this video. I’m a complete newbie but I’ve been learning about the business of art and I have a feeling that this would also be stressful to me as well. By the way, you are beautiful. ❤️
Awe...you're super kind, Rebecca! I'm glad you found the video helpful to you!
Thanks for sharing , good information
My pleasure! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you so much for sharing.
You are so welcome, Penny! I hope it was helpful!
@@BettyFranksArt I love your channel and your work. I’ve wanted to paint all my life but I’m just starting. Don’t know if I’ll ever sell anything ,but I’m enthralled with all the knowledge out here I’m just soaking it in. I’m up there in age , but doesn’t matter. Everyone in this community is so great. I’m so excited about learning everything I can. Thank you truly, it is so appreciated.
I agree with everything you've said. I've been down the exact same road some 25 years ago. I did an 8'x8' commission that was rejected. I was out $6,000. I eventually ended up giving it away to a friend of mine. I've never done one since.
When you work primarily by free association, painting 'by order,' really affects the whole process. Art is so all so objective anyway.
Finally. The business of art is something very few artists are any good at and no graduate program teaches it.
So, if you don't really need the money. Don't do it. Just paint 🙃
Well said, Tom! I'm sorry about that commission you did that was rejected. So frustrating!
thanks for your inspirations
You're very welcome, Cordella! Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you ,thank you for sharing these thoughts and tips ,I would love to have a contract template but wouldn't know where to start! Stupidly I don't see the " links" posted to the Word doc etc, so sorry to bug you if anyone else can help me .
Here you go, Sandi:
Commission Contract (Unfortunately, I wasn't able to upload a word doc to my website. This is a PDF file. Copy the content and paste it into word or any word processing software to make changes.): www.bettyfranksart.com/commission-contract
@@BettyFranksArt so appreciate your generosity Betty and openness to share ! 😀
@@sandicienski4469 You're welcome!
Yes, commissions are sometimes hatd...but I still do it....sometimes people ask, if I can change this and that...even I thought, the painting is finished. Ja, usually it worked out good. Many greetings ❤🙋
Yes, making changes is to be expected and unless you tell them in advance that no changes will be made. Thanks for watching, Susanne!
@@BettyFranksArt thanx, Betty.