"CUT US LOOOOSE!" This engineer was getting eaten alive by a Hellfungus, his adrenaline probably catapulted to DEFCON 1, and yet he still had the presence of mind to suppress his currently-apeshit survival instincts and condemn himself for the greater good. That was a man of focus.
A bit late, but even the probe operators final words were, "STAY CLEAR KUUN-LAN!" It seems as though every individual who enters these space faring vessels knows the risks and are willing to do all they can just for the sake of others.
DarthCannabis Every single bit. That's part of the genius of Homeworld. What you interact with is really just a bunch of faceless ships, but the voice actors make it all so much more meaningful.
9:15 listen to the engineers voice, this was damn good voice acting, you can hear his voice begin to tremble and catch in his throat in horror as he describes what the beast does with organic matter
I noticed that when he talks about how the mass interfaces with the ships, he gets less uncomfortable. Seems to me that talking about something more familiar to his job is not as horrifying to him as his coworkers getting dissolved.
@@rhino2960 And yet it is the ship captains VA we hear in it. Unless they reused his voice for an engineer (which I doubt) then they probably meant it to be the captain talking about the report in his logs.
@@chaptermasterdomitheus5867 game companies reuse VA's for different characters all the time, they did it all the time back then too, I'm reasonably sure there are several people scott swanson voiced, at least two or three additional characters with bit parts, throughout the game, I'm pretty sure the processor captains voice was done by him as well.
And the worst part? If anything like that happens, we know that our governments will act exactly the way the Sam-Taws did - instead of sharing their discovery with the world and examine it in the safest environment possible, they'll hide it in some hole and start poking it with sticks, hoping to obtain advantage over everyone else.
@@Alknix That's exactly how. Shame USA are not so supportive, like in Brasil where they pressed to ban russian vaccine and included into sanction-list company which produces it
Vyporware You can actually save your squad of acolytes, if you push the D key as the cutscene triggers when the science ship approaches the infected decks. And those screams still put a chill down my spine 15 years later ...
PlaskProductions They must dock with the command ship to stop the beast following them, ive done it many many times and have no problem sending a full squad of wing commander xp level acolytes as long as they dock, because then they become an invalid target.
9:42 "We're engineers, not biologists..." You can just hear the weariness and overwhelming sense of dispare in the voice. None of the people studying this thing are even remotely close to being qualified to analyse and understand the beast, but there litterally is no one else left to try.
+SymbolsWriter Making a horror RTS is... Honestly I'm not sure it can be entirely done, considering the perspective and gameplay differences that deliberately disconnect the player from the units. But I know it can at least be partially done, because there are moments in this game where I feared sending my units into a battle because I saw the units in the enemy fleet, and knew that said units had the ability to corrupt my ships. And there was nothing I could do but send my fleet and watch as part of it was turned against me.
Obviously not in the game play scene of commanding units, however Homeworld has always excelled with it's story, making you connected to people whom you hardly ever see if ever, just through the voices alone we get a much better picture than any scene if we actually see the characters. So with HW:C it is a gameplay/story disconnect that separates itself from being true horror also consistently since naturally we overcome The Beast, but those moments were The Beast first emerges are truly horrifying, and the worst part, we just sit there helpless listening to the screams of the damned. To pull something like that off I find worthy of praise, mostly thanks in part again to the hear not see approach our imagination fills in the gaps. And then you get the big fuck off space blower upper cannon. Sending big balls of NOPE at the beast.
UltimateDeliciousPie There really are few things as satisfying as landing a Siege Cannon shot at 100% damage range right in the center of an enemy fleet. Starcraft 2's "ultimate" weapons look so amazing. But then when translated onto the map itself, is literally just a small blue "pew pew". Effective against light units, sure. But super underwhelming.
Reminds me of that one mission in Homeworld when i sent half of my capital ships to investigte an alien relic only for them to all turn against me. Few resources, fewer ships, no reinforcements. And only half way home. Never been taught the meaning of despair so effectively by a game before.
The Beast one of the most terrifying pure evil factions in all of fiction they were the granddaddies of the flood, replicators and the reapers and eclipse the goddam Borg. Seriously when I compare all the modern evil factions they pale compared to the beast that thing was evil and hunger incarnate who agrees with me.
The Beast is terrifying not because it is an evil greedy entity, but because of what it can DO. Theoretically, if it makes contact with a planet, it could spread so long as it finds organic material to use in order to continue spreading. Entire countries could become a wasteland of sentient beast goo. As the Bentusi put it. They are prisoners within their own bodies.
Vyporware exactly, the worst part is being painfully assimilated into all that gooey biomass and still retain your awarness, all you can do is watch while you infect other unsuspecting victims and all you wish for is death.
Vyporware I get the impression it doesn't actually even care if it's organic or inorganic, the only difference that it provides is processing capability and control, not infecting capability. It would probably eat the planet. Also, that in of itself is a notable plot hole, both in how it never got to any planets, and how pieces of destroyed beast ship aren't causing contact conversions, or converting things in the future as the particles drift about, not even caring about being smaller than the eye can see because they are independently viral.
uGuardian It's certainly a bit curious when you think about it. Because they did make something that could basically do worse to a planet than make it inhospitable or destroy it outright. And yet, The Beast never actually did anything of the sort in the whole time this was all going on. Though with that being said, there clearly are some limitations to it, if the Taiidan somehow managed to contain it for experiments on that planet you infiltrate with the captured resource collectors.
Vyporware Any idea if they were helping the Naggarok with it's repairs at that point? The Naggarok might've been trying to make as much of a positive influence as possible. Also I get the impression that, judging from LAZORS (freaking Bentusi) and plasma killing it, (and by plasma I'm talking about incinerating the structure, not referencing the multiplayer-only research that only exists for game balance,) you could probably contain it in an energy shield or field of some form, although that was one of the critical issues for them, Homeworld appears to be a scifi universe without any form of energy shielding. But if they can do it small scale, that could probably contain small quantities, and at the beginning they do mention they were doing some specific experiment that involved surface contact when it started eating the lower decks.
That whole bit triggered my nightmares for WEEKS. I srsly couldn't play the game after that for at least 4 days! Listen to that guy in the ending cutscene. He sounds truly terrified, his voice almost collapses, like he is at the verge of a breakdown. The only game i could consider a horror RTS. It does not rely on jump scares, to make you feel helpless!
I'll never forget that cutscene. Absolutely terrified me as a kid when the lower deck got jettisoned. Unplugged my computer from the wall out of fear, didn't touch that mission for a long time. What a masterpiece.
Might be the IGN-Gamespot-usual suspects opinion but I see those who are fans often go 1>Cataclysm>>2. I think Cataclysm definitely deserves more attention that it gets. Especially the campaign is really good.
I love the fact the group of engineers are the only ones analyzed the Beast samples instead of any field that related to biology, probably all of the researchers are on the lower decks of Kuun-Lan and turn them all into a giant sentient flesh mold
Also they may not have had any biologist on hand to begin with. Remember, this is a mining vessels, and best they would have is medical personnel and little else. And whatever biologists they had were more likely from the clee-san, and those were definitely all in the lower deck to work on the beacon
I really LOVED the plot of this game. I remember playing homeworld long time ago. But then, I wasn't expecting the "bio mechanical virus". However something that sticks to me even now (despite the screams when the lower decks are yettisoned) it's on 9:18 when the engineer ("we are engineers, not biologists!!) talks about the beast. Just damn, the voice actor it's AWESOME here, how his words chokes on him, like... how the facts and what he just learned it's against his beliefs. And still, he must give the conclussions about it!! It's just.. GOLD! Such a damn good voice actor!!! (and really good plot!)
God imagining what happened during the assimilation is really disturbing. Like you just walking in the corridor with your other colleagues and suddenly the wall and floor start absorbing everyone.
@@dalesheen1816 I disagree, as soon as the Beast infects a Flood ship the Flood would know what happened, have a pretty good idea on the How and the Why, and then take preventive measures to avoid any more infections. The Flood have the sum knowledge of the Precursors, everything they have consumed, something that is essentially Space Magic involving the very fabric of reality, and are the very reasons for what is essentially the Big Red Reset Button for the Halo universe. There is no cure, no hope, nothing can stop them except for the extermination of all life in the hopes of starving the Flood out. And even that didn't work. On a side note, Halo 2 and 3's Flood infestations are all 2401 Penitent Tangent's (and possibly some extra-galactic race's, however that part needs confirmation) fault.
@@hyperkaioken4982 th-cam.com/video/xoizdTBizwk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/2dKJOW-poT0/w-d-xo.html Those humans were Lucky, if they didn't have Plot Armor and Luck it would have been VERY different.
This game.... funny that I got to play it in my childhood, and the beast reveal gave me nightmares that night, scaring me too much to continue the game.... It's the ONLY game that ever did this. A strategy game. That says it all... (french btw, which I find conveys the feeling of panick of the crew in the infected area even better than in english, a rare occurence) My only regret is that we didn't get to face the main beast feel that ruined the more militaristic hiigaran factions... such a massive battle would have been a sight to behold
5:06 "WE LIVE" That line is so horrifying and yet rather layered > "We" not "I", indicating the hivemind nature of the Beast > "Live" not any a status indicative of wellness nor anything purely mechanical in nature like "function", indicating the Beast's lack of pain, empathy or other emotions and it's organic/techno-organic nature
They are capable of feeling (physical) pain. If you play as the beast in multiplayer/skirmish. The beast mothership will say "Command-Self is in pain" when they are being attacked.
In space, you scream a lot Homeworld Cataclysm was a rare point where mix of RTS and space opera met elements of sci-fi horror and it was executed perfectly
I deeply respect Kuun-Lan for their bravery fighting the beast when nobody would help them. The voice acting is great, and really captures the horror and stress of the crew. This game still gives me the chills and those screams, they still terrify me.
Every time i hear that alarm noise when the captain say "Now we got bio hazard warning going off across the lower decks" I get chills. I've heard it used in other place and it always makes me think of this. Wish i could find that sound though.
For anyone still want to get this game, go to GOG. They just release this game in their shop, under the name "Homeworld: Emergence". ( The change of name is due to Blizzard copyright of the word catacysm) :)
Yeah, that is so retarded. Hey, let's copyright some name that we used for our game so that NO-ONE ELSE can ever use a name with a similar wording ever, just in case it causes confusion. Yeah, because WoW: Cataclysm and Homeworld: Cataclysm was so damn easy to get wrong. Next they will be copyrighting the term CRUSADE, from the Burning Crusade expansion, and no game set in the historical crusades will ever use that term ever again. Totally fair, no?
and the fact this game is way older than that piece of shit which made people realize the game was going down, sadly due to their blissful ignorance they say that expansion ruined the game (if not when the game started dying) when it actually began with wrath
Sadly Engineers will be perfectly justified in looking down on the likes of gender studies majors for as long as that's a thing, and so for that matter, will actual biologists - even if biologists may be looked down on as well. Collateral is a thing, after all.
@@Terenin You do realize the chief author, writing under the pen name of Marcus Skylar is in fact Arinn Dembo, who is, *gasp* a huge fucking feminist, you damnfool? homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Marcus_Skyler
Sadly its unlikely to ever happen, seeing the source code was lost. This means a remaster would essentially need to be the same game remade from scratch
Tyriael Soban Ah, where you basically talk down the Bentusi? I probably will, it was a fantastic piece of work for sure. There are several other sections of the game I plan to showcase as well.
That is the least of it. That the Beast cells infect you and leave you conscious but not in control of your own actions.... It must be horrible. It's like the Goa'uld parasites in Stargate. It's similar.
@@Dozornui Yeah the ending IIRC implies as long as a single nano-thing of the Beast exists they'll always be there.. forever stuck in a state of lucidity and enslavement to the Beast will. Yet they don't know for certain. The Naggarok also says from a cut audio file that "we can reconstitute your friends and lovers", implying it either holds them as captives in its own hive mind or it's just lying out its ass to buy time (which makes sense, you are eradicating it then).
@@TheKnightOfSmite I doubt that single nano-thing of the Beast will be enough to store all minds of consumed living beings. More likely brain and neural system remain intact during the assimilation process, as well as skeleton to support and keep it together, and remains are 'repurposed' via nano-reassembly or something like that... which must be extremely painful and maddening. I guess this process is similar to creating husks in Mass Effect.
Apparently only people like the Bentusi and Karan S'jet stay conscious:thats because since they are already integrated to their ships, the beast doesnt need to melt them down and only needs to puppeteer them. For regular crew however, they are melted down in order to integrate them with the ship, and thats is death although their knowledge is taken by the Beast, as well as their voice.
In some ways, even though the original Homeworld had an AMAZING story, this game's story was even BETTER. And yeah. The Beast is terrifying. Even more so than the Borg.
This was absolutely amazing and terrifying, i mean enemy who infects ANY approaching vessel. I was scared as hell. Finished playing homeworld 1, which is great game, but not THAT intensive, i was completely overwhelmed by this bio virus concept, i literally screamed WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR ESCAPE TO HYPERSPACE ASAP when playing this mission... But it was just a start.....
If you've ever read Vernor Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep, then you know exactly what's coming. This is the closest thing in video games (or any medium for that matter) of what it looked like to the Straumuli expedition the moment that the Blight - very similar to the Beast - awakens and becomes self-aware. In the book, this was from the *Blight's* perspective, so the screams and cries of the expedition were dismissed callously as the Blight "flowered" and ate everything and EVERYONE in the vicinity, then made preparations to starts spreading. It knew that a single ship escaped its grasp, but thought very little of it... only much, much later was the significance of that ship revealed. It spreads like the Blight, too, through beamed communications carrying its data. When that beam hits the computer systems of a victim civilization (or ship) it takes over the computers then takes over the *crew,* turning them into its meat puppets. Exactly as shown here. "WE LIVE."
2:21 I recall hearing a very similar, if not, the same soundtrack on the cartoon Phineas & Ferb when something catastrophic was happening; like in S'Winter where Doofenshmirtz unintentionally shorted out the city power (via using a cartoonishly huge plug), then the main strings hit their mark as the scene cuts to the power plant workers scrambling from panic. (...Followed by the snowmakers in Flynn-Fletcher's backyard turning off, thus melting that huge mountain of snow that P&F built earlier. XD)
I remember in the old version you could recall the escorts just as the subversion cut scene happened, but then the research module turned around and set course for your location. Doesn't seem to happen in Emergence.
@@mirainikki6665 Yeah; the moment I've heard the CLEE-SAN holding position "Standing Down", I immideately pressed 'D' to tell all 10 Acolytes to dock to the nearest platform...
I managed to get that to work playing Emergence recently. I remembered seeing my dad play this as a kid, so I knew what to expect from that interaction. Interesting thing to note though, while you do get your ACVs back, the game still gives the Beast 10 of them as if it had managed to infect them as well. So you're not losing your ships, but you're not stopping the Beast from gaining any either.
You know, this is probably one of the very few RTS games that has a horror element to it, and did it so well. The missions after the beast introduction always have a sense of dread.
I say the Flood are just as bad, sure they can't infect a ship as fast as that but they have essentially Space Magic, the ability to talk an AI into thinking that helping the Flood is a good thing, can mind rape someone on Earth from light years away, and can use information from anyone or anything that has EVER been infected. Killing a Gravemind is just a minor setback, reducing the Flood to but a single spore? That can take some time to recover from, but the Gravemind that could arise after that will still have the memorise of every Gravemind, Keymind, and infected individual before it.
No, the flood doesn't present as much of a hostile capability as the beast. Actually, id go so far as to think that the flood could be subverted by the Beast, but not the other wsy around, mostly because the flood didnt subvert technology, and the beast did, unless washed in excessive amounts of heat to render the mechanical part of the beast destroyed, itll keep coming back after the flood destroyed the beasts organic side. like a nanite infection.
For anyone that doesn't know this game is now on GOG under the name Homeworld:Emergence since Cataclysm is trademarked by Blizzard now. It actually runs on modern systems, go pick it up :)
@@Ama-hi5kn I'm doing a run through Deserts of Kharak, Homeworld, Homeworld Emergence/Cataclysm, and then Homeworld 2 in anticipation of Homeworld 3... I'm having a blast with DOK, such a good game. I know Homeworld and cataclysm are both going to kick my ass though because those games are just hard lol Edit: talk to text sucks lol
You can just picture it, the virus rapidly mutates biological beings, transforming them into a deformed bio circuitry, the process is no doubt extremely painful, hence the screams.
Cut us loose! I watched this as a teenager after having played homeworld 1. I was not ready for freddy. This game gave me nightmares especially once the beast started talking.
this mission OST... give me chills. this game was pretty fun. hope someday someone make a mod for HM remastered, or even a whole remastered game. remake a game without the codes isnt that of a problem, the only thing is the speeches...
I wonder what was really happening to those screaming dudes, I guess their bodies were basically getting absorbed and redistributed back into their ships, and it didnt sound like a particularly painless or rapid process, but how exactly? Maybe its best left to the imagination? Its quite a scary idea for sure.
EdMcStinko Imagine your body being infested, then melting of it's own accord in a deliberate fashion across the ship, as those around you experience the same. While your mind is warped into a voracious twisted, well... Beast.
KommandantDahl I get the impression that it's actually a lot more efficient, faster, and pervasive. If I remember correctly the beast is subatomic and could care less whether what it's subverting is organic or inorganic, it just isn't capable of self-functioning without subverting a form of control mechanism, and it's said it merges the nervous system of the people it subverts into the electronics of the ship, so they're still alive but it's rending them to shred and rendering them to goo. I think Borg subversion is downright polite in comparison, and at least it can be reversed. About the subatomic comment, I remember that for some reason, but I cannot say WHERE I remember it from, be it implication, cut-scene, manual, etc. So it's highly likely that I am not actually correct in remembering that. But it definitely is bio-organic and seems to just outright convert anything it touches with ridiculous speed.
I disagree, I don't think they're alive anymore after infestation... the process kills them (painfully) and integrates the biomass of all the humans into one new organism that essentially is a living ship. The biomass taken from the former humans may still be alive at a cellular level, but it's not human, and certainly not the individual, conscious being it once was.
Lol the first encounter with beast where you gotta send 10 fighters to protect clee it's funny to order the fighters to dock as soon as the cutscene begins. When beast fires particle beam you get to see nothing but space while non existent pilots scream in horror
This was a very terrifying part for me as the first time I played this and not knowing about the beast, I made my own ship closer and have my own ships and all of it guard the research ship and let's just say, it was not a very good thing as it turned into a massacre.
It pains me to know that there might never be a remaster of this gem of a game. Very frist and only (if I remember right) RTS I played when I was like what 14 maybe 13. But man did it shake me but in a good way.
I just don't understand why we cannot make a remastered Homeworld: Cataclysm. Yes, we may have lost the original codes, but we still have those game discs, right? We also have all these game walkthrough videos and know what the game looks like. Then, why can't we just create a exact copy but remastered Homeworld: Cataclysm? What's the technical difficulty actually? Is it a must to get the source code?
nope, its possible in an way, which you have already said, but you dont need the source code to make an remaster, that was the case between vicarious visions and the original ps1 crash bandicoot trilogy, it just takes more time to make it, the engine is outdated anyways, which is why gearbox used homeworld 2 engine on the original on the remaster, though pisses me off they kept the same UI and stuff, basically meaning the original is an game on homeworld 2
UI and engine won't be a problem. What they want are the scripts that basically makes the campaign. They'd only need a few devs if they already had all of this ready, all theyd need to do is to port it to the new game engine which shouldn't be much of a problem (p sure they conceived the whole thing to be seamlessly interfacing with the old codes) The only work required would be artistic work to actually "remaster" the appearance of the models, thus saving a lot of time and money, cuz the concept art is already done. Going in such a project wthout the codes basically means that they have to do all the scripting themselves. We're in a time where niche RTS are not that interesting anymore in terms of sales, so convincing shareholders or even just upper management to give the green light to projects is absurdly hard.
yep, genres on this century have been getting fucked up slowly over time, action rts (uneducated retards call it moba) killed rts, and battle royale is in the process of doing the same to fps
i don't know the storyline of the expansion.... so this part makes little sense to me...but it definitely reminds me of the thriller movie "Event Horizon" that scared the crap out of me...so i never watched it again after the 1st time 🙄😅. i think this little story was inspired by that movie.
Cataclysm was an unofficial sequel as it was done by a different studio, it is unlikely it is lost, more that it is not been bought.After all clever techies can get the source code from the release and there are plenty of copies of Cataclysm out there.
I still have one lying around if they need it, however, I believe that to fit the game/sound data on a single basic CD (750MB) they had to compress it and that would result in a substandard transfer, hence, the need for the original lost uncompressed zip drives.
It is a fantastic game, and criminally unknown. You can finally get it again on GoG, under the name Homeworld Emergence. (Despite the game being older than WoW, they didn't want to butt heads with Blizzard's "Cataclysm" expansion name.)
Never knew they revived it... understood that the base code was lost somehow... doesnt matter I have all 3 games... no steam, or other 3rd party provider... I pick 1 and cataclysm from time to time but 2 I play rarely due to the broken adaptive difficulty. Still vary good games
By far the best installment of the Higara saga. Would have been nice to have this just revised to support higher resolution screens, textures, and audio, but otherwise kept the same. Remastered got rid of all of the useful mechanics in the HW1 engine, making it pretty much a waste as well.
I adore how in HW1 the Kushan are fighting for their existence. In HW:C a segment of the Kushan are fighting for EVERYONES existence. I don't how you top the Beast as an antagonist.
I really loved HW 1 and cataclysm both games had a nice element of RTT and not just RTS in space, its a real shame the RTT was removed in HW 2 it would have made the game alot more immersive and engaging. I would love to see a reboot of HW universe in cry engine or unreal engine along with fully fledged mod support like in Xcom 2 and totorials on how to create own asset. This is what homeworld really need to make a true comeback.
+DanielPembrink It's pretty much what we were hoping for with Homeworld Remastered, but didn't get. We just got a prettier, dumbed-down HW1 in an updated HW2 engine. With nonexistent fleet formations.
Vyporware I know I still find HW 1 remastered unplayable, I always won mission 2 and 3 without taking ANY casulties in classic, but in the remastered the fighters and corvettes just screw up ;_; Where you able to finish the remastered version?
DanielPembrink Yes. I beat both HW1 remastered and HW2 remastered. HW2 is basically the same except for the non-functional formations. But HW1 is dumbed down to hell. The Kadeshi missions are a joke considering that the projectile hit chance is based off of RNG now, since it's the HW2 engine, and not the HW1 one. Meaning that the tiny little squishy fighters get hit based off of if they roll a dice poorly. Instead of actually being, y'know, evasive. Which is how the HW1 engine functioned.
+Vyporware yeah i know that just sucks and the doms review of homeworld 2 makes me personally dismiss the game story (it is so bland), im writing a fan fiction where homeworld 2 story never happened and exploring the politics and the obvious problems/challenges an infant race will face after being close to extermination.
+Vyporware There is no the three hyperspace core rule them all, no progenitors. The taiidan republic is back, the council finally make an apperence. and no last of the bentusi
it uses ur organic matter to create links with the mechanical parts and thus u are just a spectator to a nightmare where ur only existence is that of immortal pain and anguish as ur mind and body are shred to pieces and u watch urself killing ur friends and family and destroying everything u ever knew and loved. so yes
HW1 was truly amazing, and won several of the PC Gamer Magazine awards, in their March 2000 issue. Cataclysm is either on par with it, or just below it.
"CUT US LOOOOSE!"
This engineer was getting eaten alive by a Hellfungus, his adrenaline probably catapulted to DEFCON 1, and yet he still had the presence of mind to suppress his currently-apeshit survival instincts and condemn himself for the greater good. That was a man of focus.
Glory is loyalty perfected.
I don't know if it is directed to Command or to the other scientist to cut whatever grabbed him.
A bit late, but even the probe operators final words were, "STAY CLEAR KUUN-LAN!" It seems as though every individual who enters these space faring vessels knows the risks and are willing to do all they can just for the sake of others.
Theres just something terrifying about hearing the screams of all those people in the lower decks as the jettisoned module drifts away
Yeah, at first glance. I found it disturbing. I never heard of this game til I saw this video on my recommended
Or those dipshit pirates sticking their dicks in it.
Makes you wonder how many people where trapped in there, probably hundreds at least.
“More qualified analysis”
For once a game that understands not everyone is an expert
It gives vibe of old sci-fi with grim and stern tone of the situation.
7:35
Cruiser captain: "All acquisition teams, prepare for boarding!"
Beast Mother ship: "You can say that again!"
The irony is palpable.
DarthCannabis "Don´t, look, the ass webcam." I mean wtf?
DarthCannabis i like the cruiser captain's voice, feels so badass, like a barbarian chieftan.
lulubeloo I'd say all the voice acting in this game was top notch.
DarthCannabis Every single bit. That's part of the genius of Homeworld. What you interact with is really just a bunch of faceless ships, but the voice actors make it all so much more meaningful.
9:15 listen to the engineers voice, this was damn good voice acting, you can hear his voice begin to tremble and catch in his throat in horror as he describes what the beast does with organic matter
I noticed that when he talks about how the mass interfaces with the ships, he gets less uncomfortable. Seems to me that talking about something more familiar to his job is not as horrifying to him as his coworkers getting dissolved.
A bit late but that's not an engineer, it's the ships captain
@@chaptermasterdomitheus5867 the cutscene begins with this line "ship engineer's report 1.2"
@@rhino2960 And yet it is the ship captains VA we hear in it. Unless they reused his voice for an engineer (which I doubt) then they probably meant it to be the captain talking about the report in his logs.
@@chaptermasterdomitheus5867 game companies reuse VA's for different characters all the time, they did it all the time back then too, I'm reasonably sure there are several people scott swanson voiced, at least two or three additional characters with bit parts, throughout the game, I'm pretty sure the processor captains voice was done by him as well.
"2020 can't get any worse!"
December: WEEEEE LIIIIIVEEE
And the worst part? If anything like that happens, we know that our governments will act exactly the way the Sam-Taws did - instead of sharing their discovery with the world and examine it in the safest environment possible, they'll hide it in some hole and start poking it with sticks, hoping to obtain advantage over everyone else.
@@Alknix the russians are like Soomtaws in battle with COVID :)
@@Dozornui How? We've shared "Sputnik V" with anyone who's interested.
@@Alknix That's exactly how. Shame USA are not so supportive, like in Brasil where they pressed to ban russian vaccine and included into sanction-list company which produces it
2021: yES TheY KNOw....
Don't let old games die. Uploaded so that others can remember this game.
Vyporware You can actually save your squad of acolytes, if you push the D key as the cutscene triggers when the science ship approaches the infected decks.
And those screams still put a chill down my spine 15 years later ...
Tyriael Soban As clever as that may be, it's just not the same cutscene as it is with them.
When I did that, the beast ship actually started moving towards my command ship, still going after the Acolytes! Freaked the hell out of me as a kid.
PlaskProductions
They must dock with the command ship to stop the beast following them, ive done it many many times and have no problem sending a full squad of wing commander xp level acolytes as long as they dock, because then they become an invalid target.
Tyriael Soban Alright, that explains it! I panicked and moved my entire fleet as far away as I could without docking the acolytes, haha!
9:42
"We're engineers, not biologists..."
You can just hear the weariness and overwhelming sense of dispare in the voice. None of the people studying this thing are even remotely close to being qualified to analyse and understand the beast, but there litterally is no one else left to try.
This is the closest I ever saw to a horror RTS, I think
+SymbolsWriter Making a horror RTS is... Honestly I'm not sure it can be entirely done, considering the perspective and gameplay differences that deliberately disconnect the player from the units. But I know it can at least be partially done, because there are moments in this game where I feared sending my units into a battle because I saw the units in the enemy fleet, and knew that said units had the ability to corrupt my ships. And there was nothing I could do but send my fleet and watch as part of it was turned against me.
Obviously not in the game play scene of commanding units, however Homeworld has always excelled with it's story, making you connected to people whom you hardly ever see if ever, just through the voices alone we get a much better picture than any scene if we actually see the characters.
So with HW:C it is a gameplay/story disconnect that separates itself from being true horror also consistently since naturally we overcome The Beast, but those moments were The Beast first emerges are truly horrifying, and the worst part, we just sit there helpless listening to the screams of the damned. To pull something like that off I find worthy of praise, mostly thanks in part again to the hear not see approach our imagination fills in the gaps.
And then you get the big fuck off space blower upper cannon. Sending big balls of NOPE at the beast.
UltimateDeliciousPie
There really are few things as satisfying as landing a Siege Cannon shot at 100% damage range right in the center of an enemy fleet.
Starcraft 2's "ultimate" weapons look so amazing. But then when translated onto the map itself, is literally just a small blue "pew pew". Effective against light units, sure. But super underwhelming.
Reminds me of that one mission in Homeworld when i sent half of my capital ships to investigte an alien relic only for them to all turn against me.
Few resources, fewer ships, no reinforcements. And only half way home.
Never been taught the meaning of despair so effectively by a game before.
The Ghost Ship.
The Beast one of the most terrifying pure evil factions in all of fiction they were the granddaddies of the flood, replicators and the reapers and eclipse the goddam Borg. Seriously when I compare all the modern evil factions they pale compared to the beast that thing was evil and hunger incarnate who agrees with me.
The Beast is terrifying not because it is an evil greedy entity, but because of what it can DO.
Theoretically, if it makes contact with a planet, it could spread so long as it finds organic material to use in order to continue spreading. Entire countries could become a wasteland of sentient beast goo. As the Bentusi put it. They are prisoners within their own bodies.
Vyporware exactly, the worst part is being painfully assimilated into all that gooey biomass and still retain your awarness, all you can do is watch while you infect other unsuspecting victims and all you wish for is death.
Vyporware I get the impression it doesn't actually even care if it's organic or inorganic, the only difference that it provides is processing capability and control, not infecting capability. It would probably eat the planet.
Also, that in of itself is a notable plot hole, both in how it never got to any planets, and how pieces of destroyed beast ship aren't causing contact conversions, or converting things in the future as the particles drift about, not even caring about being smaller than the eye can see because they are independently viral.
uGuardian It's certainly a bit curious when you think about it. Because they did make something that could basically do worse to a planet than make it inhospitable or destroy it outright. And yet, The Beast never actually did anything of the sort in the whole time this was all going on.
Though with that being said, there clearly are some limitations to it, if the Taiidan somehow managed to contain it for experiments on that planet you infiltrate with the captured resource collectors.
Vyporware Any idea if they were helping the Naggarok with it's repairs at that point? The Naggarok might've been trying to make as much of a positive influence as possible.
Also I get the impression that, judging from LAZORS (freaking Bentusi) and plasma killing it, (and by plasma I'm talking about incinerating the structure, not referencing the multiplayer-only research that only exists for game balance,) you could probably contain it in an energy shield or field of some form, although that was one of the critical issues for them, Homeworld appears to be a scifi universe without any form of energy shielding.
But if they can do it small scale, that could probably contain small quantities, and at the beginning they do mention they were doing some specific experiment that involved surface contact when it started eating the lower decks.
That whole bit triggered my nightmares for WEEKS. I srsly couldn't play the game after that for at least 4 days!
Listen to that guy in the ending cutscene. He sounds truly terrified, his voice almost collapses, like he is at the verge of a breakdown.
The only game i could consider a horror RTS. It does not rely on jump scares, to make you feel helpless!
when he mentions breaking down organic matter he sounds like he's going to be sick.
it's a zombie apocalypse IN SPACE! I'm amazed at how well they pulled that off and in an RTS of all genres.
"Mother's deciphered part of the transmission, and it doesn't look like an SOS. Well it... it looks like a warning."
Alien??? :)
I believe so
I'll never forget that cutscene.
Absolutely terrified me as a kid when the lower deck got jettisoned. Unplugged my computer from the wall out of fear, didn't touch that mission for a long time.
What a masterpiece.
Still my most favorite homeworld game out of all of them. Apparently that's the unpopular opinion, but i don't care. Ioved the campaign.
From what I hear, the reviewers loved it, so you aren't alone
Liru the Lance Corporal
The campaign is good, just the multiplayer sucks.
...I had no idea this even happened. Thank you for the info, already bought it and am reinstalling it to bask in nostalgia for the next few days
Might be the IGN-Gamespot-usual suspects opinion but I see those who are fans often go 1>Cataclysm>>2. I think Cataclysm definitely deserves more attention that it gets. Especially the campaign is really good.
Easily my favorite part about Cataclysm is the emotion in all the voicework whereas Homeworld 1 is all monotone or at least feels like it.
Cruiser captain: "All acquisition teams, prepare for boarding!"
Beast Mothership: "JOIINN US!!!"
I love the fact the group of engineers are the only ones analyzed the Beast samples instead of any field that related to biology, probably all of the researchers are on the lower decks of Kuun-Lan and turn them all into a giant sentient flesh mold
That was exactly the case, and the fact that they included that detail made it so much better.
Also they may not have had any biologist on hand to begin with. Remember, this is a mining vessels, and best they would have is medical personnel and little else. And whatever biologists they had were more likely from the clee-san, and those were definitely all in the lower deck to work on the beacon
@@thorveim1174 Or may have still been aboard when she went to investigate.
I really LOVED the plot of this game. I remember playing homeworld long time ago. But then, I wasn't expecting the "bio mechanical virus". However something that sticks to me even now (despite the screams when the lower decks are yettisoned) it's on 9:18 when the engineer ("we are engineers, not biologists!!) talks about the beast.
Just damn, the voice actor it's AWESOME here, how his words chokes on him, like... how the facts and what he just learned it's against his beliefs. And still, he must give the conclussions about it!! It's just.. GOLD!
Such a damn good voice actor!!! (and really good plot!)
God imagining what happened during the assimilation is really disturbing. Like you just walking in the corridor with your other colleagues and suddenly the wall and floor start absorbing everyone.
This makes the Flood look like a walk in the park in comparison.
It even spreads faster then them.
Worse, it would subvert THEM as well!
@@dalesheen1816 I disagree, as soon as the Beast infects a Flood ship the Flood would know what happened, have a pretty good idea on the How and the Why, and then take preventive measures to avoid any more infections. The Flood have the sum knowledge of the Precursors, everything they have consumed, something that is essentially Space Magic involving the very fabric of reality, and are the very reasons for what is essentially the Big Red Reset Button for the Halo universe. There is no cure, no hope, nothing can stop them except for the extermination of all life in the hopes of starving the Flood out. And even that didn't work.
On a side note, Halo 2 and 3's Flood infestations are all 2401 Penitent Tangent's (and possibly some extra-galactic race's, however that part needs confirmation) fault.
@@kabob0077 plz don't act like the flood are the be all and end all they got pushed back by humans of all things not that impressive
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Those humans were Lucky, if they didn't have Plot Armor and Luck it would have been VERY different.
@@kabob0077 i agree with what ur saying about luck and plot armour but the point still stands XD
This game.... funny that I got to play it in my childhood, and the beast reveal gave me nightmares that night, scaring me too much to continue the game.... It's the ONLY game that ever did this. A strategy game. That says it all... (french btw, which I find conveys the feeling of panick of the crew in the infected area even better than in english, a rare occurence)
My only regret is that we didn't get to face the main beast feel that ruined the more militaristic hiigaran factions... such a massive battle would have been a sight to behold
5:06 "WE LIVE"
That line is so horrifying and yet rather layered
> "We" not "I", indicating the hivemind nature of the Beast
> "Live" not any a status indicative of wellness nor anything purely mechanical in nature like "function", indicating the Beast's lack of pain, empathy or other emotions and it's organic/techno-organic nature
They are capable of feeling (physical) pain.
If you play as the beast in multiplayer/skirmish. The beast mothership will say "Command-Self is in pain" when they are being attacked.
@@guragat2 fair
In space, you scream a lot
Homeworld Cataclysm was a rare point where mix of RTS and space opera met elements of sci-fi horror and it was executed perfectly
This mission is a REALLY effective way to introduce a horror element on a scale not at human level.
I deeply respect Kuun-Lan for their bravery fighting the beast when nobody would help them. The voice acting is great, and really captures the horror and stress of the crew. This game still gives me the chills and those screams, they still terrify me.
Every time i hear that alarm noise when the captain say "Now we got bio hazard warning going off across the lower decks" I get chills. I've heard it used in other place and it always makes me think of this. Wish i could find that sound though.
I think I heard it in "Clear Skies" mashinima series, based on Eve Online plot and Garry's mod models
"DAMN IT MAN IM AN ENGINEER NOT A BIOLOGIST!" - Engineering team, Star Wars Entership.
For anyone still want to get this game, go to GOG. They just release this game in their shop, under the name "Homeworld: Emergence". ( The change of name is due to Blizzard copyright of the word catacysm) :)
Yeah, that is so retarded. Hey, let's copyright some name that we used for our game so that NO-ONE ELSE can ever use a name with a similar wording ever, just in case it causes confusion.
Yeah, because WoW: Cataclysm and Homeworld: Cataclysm was so damn easy to get wrong. Next they will be copyrighting the term CRUSADE, from the Burning Crusade expansion, and no game set in the historical crusades will ever use that term ever again.
Totally fair, no?
Terenin Yeah, that I would agree. :)
and the fact this game is way older than that piece of shit which made people realize the game was going down, sadly due to their blissful ignorance they say that expansion ruined the game (if not when the game started dying) when it actually began with wrath
9:44 "but we're engineers, not biologists..." Hopefully this will be the day when engineers finally stop looking down on life science majors!
Damn it Jim im an engineer, not a biologist.
Sadly Engineers will be perfectly justified in looking down on the likes of gender studies majors for as long as that's a thing, and so for that matter, will actual biologists - even if biologists may be looked down on as well. Collateral is a thing, after all.
@@Terenin You do realize the chief author, writing under the pen name of Marcus Skylar is in fact Arinn Dembo, who is, *gasp* a huge fucking feminist, you damnfool? homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Marcus_Skyler
the perfect reply for that always is "but arent we machines"
*engineer starts learning biology*
That’s where biochemists come in.
I'll be waiting for the day they announce Homeworld Cataclysm Remastered. I honestly enjoyed it more then Homeworld 2 and just as much as Homeworld 1.
Sadly its unlikely to ever happen, seeing the source code was lost. This means a remaster would essentially need to be the same game remade from scratch
You should showcase that piece thats referred to as "Shaming the Unbound" that is undoubtedly one of the best voice acting scenes ive ever heard.
Tyriael Soban Ah, where you basically talk down the Bentusi?
I probably will, it was a fantastic piece of work for sure. There are several other sections of the game I plan to showcase as well.
Vyporware "we..are not m-monsters."
Vyporware yeah, I think it was one of the shining examples from hwc, among many.
7:51
Those damn screams haunt me to this day
That is the least of it. That the Beast cells infect you and leave you conscious but not in control of your own actions.... It must be horrible. It's like the Goa'uld parasites in Stargate. It's similar.
20 years old game, still gives me the creeps even though I finished it at least 30 times
Basically The Thing in space, but can use inorganic materials as well.
4:55 -shudder-
I'm just going to try and ignore what that would be like.
The credits shows a Hiigaran normal then as a skeleton covered in neural goo so uh.. I have an idea. Melted down into stretchy flesh and.. ugh.
@@TheKnightOfSmite The worst part is that they can be still alive and lucid after that
@@Dozornui Yeah the ending IIRC implies as long as a single nano-thing of the Beast exists they'll always be there.. forever stuck in a state of lucidity and enslavement to the Beast will. Yet they don't know for certain.
The Naggarok also says from a cut audio file that "we can reconstitute your friends and lovers", implying it either holds them as captives in its own hive mind or it's just lying out its ass to buy time (which makes sense, you are eradicating it then).
@@TheKnightOfSmite I doubt that single nano-thing of the Beast will be enough to store all minds of consumed living beings. More likely brain and neural system remain intact during the assimilation process, as well as skeleton to support and keep it together, and remains are 'repurposed' via nano-reassembly or something like that... which must be extremely painful and maddening.
I guess this process is similar to creating husks in Mass Effect.
Apparently only people like the Bentusi and Karan S'jet stay conscious:thats because since they are already integrated to their ships, the beast doesnt need to melt them down and only needs to puppeteer them. For regular crew however, they are melted down in order to integrate them with the ship, and thats is death although their knowledge is taken by the Beast, as well as their voice.
i always docked the 10 acolytes right as cut cutscene started so they wouldnt get infected xD
That makes the infected lower decks chase them to Kuun-Laan.
In some ways, even though the original Homeworld had an AMAZING story, this game's story was even BETTER. And yeah. The Beast is terrifying. Even more so than the Borg.
The Clee-San should’ve enacted social distancing protocol.
Didn't wash hands.
Turanic raiders are boomers that won't wear masks, it is known.
The cutscene at the end implies the beast spreads thru non organic matter (like ship hulls) aswell, but ill let ya live in your own dellusions.
This was absolutely amazing and terrifying, i mean enemy who infects ANY approaching vessel. I was scared as hell. Finished playing homeworld 1, which is great game, but not THAT intensive, i was completely overwhelmed by this bio virus concept, i literally screamed WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR ESCAPE TO HYPERSPACE ASAP when playing this mission...
But it was just a start.....
My headcanon: the intelligence guy from the mothership went on to be the commander of the Kuun-Lan and thawed out his mother to assist him.
This game reminds me of Event Horizon.
Probably because space, and creepy things go so well together.
It's because all those SCREAM!!
ธรรมนันท์ ธีรพุทธิพันธ์ Yeah, Cataclysm has some of the most chilling screams I've ever heard in a game.
ธรรมนันท์ ธีรพุทธิพันธ์ yes, even the ship bears similarities with the one in the movie.
Well the Beast came from hyperspace riding on an ancient ship so..
They come. Good.
If you've ever read Vernor Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep, then you know exactly what's coming. This is the closest thing in video games (or any medium for that matter) of what it looked like to the Straumuli expedition the moment that the Blight - very similar to the Beast - awakens and becomes self-aware. In the book, this was from the *Blight's* perspective, so the screams and cries of the expedition were dismissed callously as the Blight "flowered" and ate everything and EVERYONE in the vicinity, then made preparations to starts spreading. It knew that a single ship escaped its grasp, but thought very little of it... only much, much later was the significance of that ship revealed.
It spreads like the Blight, too, through beamed communications carrying its data. When that beam hits the computer systems of a victim civilization (or ship) it takes over the computers then takes over the *crew,* turning them into its meat puppets. Exactly as shown here.
"WE LIVE."
I actually never played this game but I found a Prima strategy guide for it and basically experienced it like a novelization.
That beeping sound is the same sound effect of the countdown when you launch a tactical nuke in MW2.
the screams bring about the same terror of a necromorph infestation
2:21
I recall hearing a very similar, if not, the same soundtrack on the cartoon Phineas & Ferb when something catastrophic was happening; like in S'Winter where Doofenshmirtz unintentionally shorted out the city power (via using a cartoonishly huge plug), then the main strings hit their mark as the scene cuts to the power plant workers scrambling from panic.
(...Followed by the snowmakers in Flynn-Fletcher's backyard turning off, thus melting that huge mountain of snow that P&F built earlier. XD)
man when gog got this game and i finally got to play it, getting to the beast part of the game give me some nightmare fuel for a RTS
I remember in the old version you could recall the escorts just as the subversion cut scene happened, but then the research module turned around and set course for your location. Doesn't seem to happen in Emergence.
I can't remember that in cataclysm version.
Must be some rare bug then.
Back in the days I just sent that escort back and research ship staying still
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Yeah; the moment I've heard the CLEE-SAN holding position "Standing Down", I immideately pressed 'D' to tell all 10 Acolytes to dock to the nearest platform...
I managed to get that to work playing Emergence recently. I remembered seeing my dad play this as a kid, so I knew what to expect from that interaction.
Interesting thing to note though, while you do get your ACVs back, the game still gives the Beast 10 of them as if it had managed to infect them as well. So you're not losing your ships, but you're not stopping the Beast from gaining any either.
When The Thing meets space battles... (shivers)
You know, this is probably one of the very few RTS games that has a horror element to it, and did it so well. The missions after the beast introduction always have a sense of dread.
All zombies, zeds, infections, and corruptions in other games got nothing on The Beast. Perhaps the most horrific fictional virus in games.
I say the Flood are just as bad, sure they can't infect a ship as fast as that but they have essentially Space Magic, the ability to talk an AI into thinking that helping the Flood is a good thing, can mind rape someone on Earth from light years away, and can use information from anyone or anything that has EVER been infected. Killing a Gravemind is just a minor setback, reducing the Flood to but a single spore? That can take some time to recover from, but the Gravemind that could arise after that will still have the memorise of every Gravemind, Keymind, and infected individual before it.
No, the flood doesn't present as much of a hostile capability as the beast. Actually, id go so far as to think that the flood could be subverted by the Beast, but not the other wsy around, mostly because the flood didnt subvert technology, and the beast did, unless washed in excessive amounts of heat to render the mechanical part of the beast destroyed, itll keep coming back after the flood destroyed the beasts organic side. like a nanite infection.
For anyone that doesn't know this game is now on GOG under the name Homeworld:Emergence since Cataclysm is trademarked by Blizzard now. It actually runs on modern systems, go pick it up :)
I have Emergence from GOG. And I also have the original boxed version of Cataclysm from when it was released back in 2000. Love the game so much. 🥰
@@Ama-hi5kn I'm doing a run through Deserts of Kharak, Homeworld, Homeworld Emergence/Cataclysm, and then Homeworld 2 in anticipation of Homeworld 3...
I'm having a blast with DOK, such a good game. I know Homeworld and cataclysm are both going to kick my ass though because those games are just hard lol
Edit: talk to text sucks lol
This thing is like turboflood.
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Is the beast whats haunting the ships in hard space shipbreaker???
2:38 dear god the screams 😱. Not sure if its the bit crushed audio but the inhuman screams make it more terrifying. Even by todays standards
You can just picture it, the virus rapidly mutates biological beings, transforming them into a deformed bio circuitry, the process is no doubt extremely painful, hence the screams.
That was the intent at the time, as I bought cataclysm and still own it and play it on a very ancient computer.
4:59
You can hear the female pilot(?) shouting "WE'RE ALL DYING!"
Arinn Dembo voiced both the hive frigate and the recon.
The biggest shit-in-your-pants moment in any RTS ever.
FYI: there's a HW: Cataclysm Remastered Mod in progress as of Oct 2019 - www.moddb.com/mods/homeworld-cataclysm-remastered
Cut us loose! I watched this as a teenager after having played homeworld 1. I was not ready for freddy. This game gave me nightmares especially once the beast started talking.
this mission OST... give me chills. this game was pretty fun. hope someday someone make a mod for HM remastered, or even a whole remastered game. remake a game without the codes isnt that of a problem, the only thing is the speeches...
also when the klee-saan is infected i allways hear that woman voice saying "clear out! we all died!" lol ffs
I wonder what was really happening to those screaming dudes, I guess their bodies were basically getting absorbed and redistributed back into their ships, and it didnt sound like a particularly painless or rapid process, but how exactly?
Maybe its best left to the imagination? Its quite a scary idea for sure.
EdMcStinko Imagine your body being infested, then melting of it's own accord in a deliberate fashion across the ship, as those around you experience the same. While your mind is warped into a voracious twisted, well... Beast.
EdMcStinko I sort of imagined it as Borg assimilation but a whole lot more grotesque, violent, and inefficient. And painful.
EdMcStinko basically you're still alive as your body is torn apart and spread about the ship to be used as biocircuitry
KommandantDahl I get the impression that it's actually a lot more efficient, faster, and pervasive.
If I remember correctly the beast is subatomic and could care less whether what it's subverting is organic or inorganic, it just isn't capable of self-functioning without subverting a form of control mechanism, and it's said it merges the nervous system of the people it subverts into the electronics of the ship, so they're still alive but it's rending them to shred and rendering them to goo.
I think Borg subversion is downright polite in comparison, and at least it can be reversed.
About the subatomic comment, I remember that for some reason, but I cannot say WHERE I remember it from, be it implication, cut-scene, manual, etc. So it's highly likely that I am not actually correct in remembering that. But it definitely is bio-organic and seems to just outright convert anything it touches with ridiculous speed.
I disagree, I don't think they're alive anymore after infestation... the process kills them (painfully) and integrates the biomass of all the humans into one new organism that essentially is a living ship. The biomass taken from the former humans may still be alive at a cellular level, but it's not human, and certainly not the individual, conscious being it once was.
Such a shame this couldn't be remastered
In space no one can hear your scream ... except if you play homeworld:cata :)
Nikolay Kosev most likely those screams was going though comms units
i am sure about that, after all the screams are heard when a picture of sound emitter is shown :) but it was a good plot twist :)
Lol the first encounter with beast where you gotta send 10 fighters to protect clee it's funny to order the fighters to dock as soon as the cutscene begins. When beast fires particle beam you get to see nothing but space while non existent pilots scream in horror
This game is so damn scary as it was way back then. Rts space horror. Who would've known...
When the Beast woke, I actually was so terrified that I quit the game for the night.
These horrible screams, when they jettisoned the lower decks, reminded me of the screams of the audio log in Event Horizon. Good horror!
This was a very terrifying part for me as the first time I played this and not knowing about the beast, I made my own ship closer and have my own ships and all of it guard the research ship and let's just say, it was not a very good thing as it turned into a massacre.
There's nothing more terrifying to be than being lost in space.
I still have my cd copy of this such a good homeworld game in the series.
No vypor.
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I utterly adore every single homeworld game.
It pains me to know that there might never be a remaster of this gem of a game. Very frist and only (if I remember right) RTS I played when I was like what 14 maybe 13.
But man did it shake me but in a good way.
I just don't understand why we cannot make a remastered Homeworld: Cataclysm. Yes, we may have lost the original codes, but we still have those game discs, right? We also have all these game walkthrough videos and know what the game looks like. Then, why can't we just create a exact copy but remastered Homeworld: Cataclysm? What's the technical difficulty actually? Is it a must to get the source code?
It really isn't possible.
Without it, you need to redevelop the game from scratch.
And that is very expensive for what it's worth.
nope, its possible in an way, which you have already said, but you dont need the source code to make an remaster, that was the case between vicarious visions and the original ps1 crash bandicoot trilogy, it just takes more time to make it, the engine is outdated anyways, which is why gearbox used homeworld 2 engine on the original on the remaster, though pisses me off they kept the same UI and stuff, basically meaning the original is an game on homeworld 2
UI and engine won't be a problem. What they want are the scripts that basically makes the campaign. They'd only need a few devs if they already had all of this ready, all theyd need to do is to port it to the new game engine which shouldn't be much of a problem (p sure they conceived the whole thing to be seamlessly interfacing with the old codes) The only work required would be artistic work to actually "remaster" the appearance of the models, thus saving a lot of time and money, cuz the concept art is already done. Going in such a project wthout the codes basically means that they have to do all the scripting themselves.
We're in a time where niche RTS are not that interesting anymore in terms of sales, so convincing shareholders or even just upper management to give the green light to projects is absurdly hard.
yep, genres on this century have been getting fucked up slowly over time, action rts (uneducated retards call it moba) killed rts, and battle royale is in the process of doing the same to fps
There is one called Homeworld: Emergence
One of the best games ever made, unique in almost every aspect
05:06 Oh fu-
i don't know the storyline of the expansion.... so this part makes little sense to me...but it definitely reminds me of the thriller movie "Event Horizon" that scared the crap out of me...so i never watched it again after the 1st time 🙄😅. i think this little story was inspired by that movie.
Cataclysm was an unofficial sequel as it was done by a different studio, it is unlikely it is lost, more that it is not been bought.After all clever techies can get the source code from the release and there are plenty of copies of Cataclysm out there.
I still have one lying around if they need it, however, I believe that to fit the game/sound data on a single basic CD (750MB) they had to compress it and that would result in a substandard transfer, hence, the need for the original lost uncompressed zip drives.
@@BroNapartay I bet modern AI stuff may be able to restore it, somewhat. Better than plagiarism and talking to hitler...
Gotto say...cataclysm does look a damn good game :)
It is a fantastic game, and criminally unknown. You can finally get it again on GoG, under the name Homeworld Emergence. (Despite the game being older than WoW, they didn't want to butt heads with Blizzard's "Cataclysm" expansion name.)
Never knew they revived it... understood that the base code was lost somehow... doesnt matter I have all 3 games... no steam, or other 3rd party provider... I pick 1 and cataclysm from time to time but 2 I play rarely due to the broken adaptive difficulty. Still vary good games
By far the best installment of the Higara saga. Would have been nice to have this just revised to support higher resolution screens, textures, and audio, but otherwise kept the same. Remastered got rid of all of the useful mechanics in the HW1 engine, making it pretty much a waste as well.
I adore how in HW1 the Kushan are fighting for their existence.
In HW:C a segment of the Kushan are fighting for EVERYONES existence.
I don't how you top the Beast as an antagonist.
For some reason, the beast reminds me of the protomolecule from the expanse
You have no idea how i shat my pants when i was 7-8 years old playing this in 2000ish
At 5:00 mark, is the woman shouting "All died!"?
This has not been remastered, but it has been made available for modern systems and is still on sale www.gog.com/game/homeworld_emergence
This is the video that first made me scared of Sci fi horror
We want Cataclysm/Emergence REMASTERED!!
I heard Halflife's Andrenaline horror when the science team was jettisonned,
Yaaargh!
A horror space game, one of my favourites, they shall remake this game
I wanted to see this faction as a recurring one, they were an awesome enemy.
I really loved HW 1 and cataclysm both games had a nice element of RTT and not just RTS in space, its a real shame the RTT was removed in HW 2 it would have made the game alot more immersive and engaging.
I would love to see a reboot of HW universe in cry engine or unreal engine along with fully fledged mod support like in Xcom 2 and totorials on how to create own asset. This is what homeworld really need to make a true comeback.
+DanielPembrink It's pretty much what we were hoping for with Homeworld Remastered, but didn't get. We just got a prettier, dumbed-down HW1 in an updated HW2 engine. With nonexistent fleet formations.
Vyporware I know I still find HW 1 remastered unplayable, I always won mission 2 and 3 without taking ANY casulties in classic, but in the remastered the fighters and corvettes just screw up ;_;
Where you able to finish the remastered version?
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Yes. I beat both HW1 remastered and HW2 remastered. HW2 is basically the same except for the non-functional formations. But HW1 is dumbed down to hell. The Kadeshi missions are a joke considering that the projectile hit chance is based off of RNG now, since it's the HW2 engine, and not the HW1 one. Meaning that the tiny little squishy fighters get hit based off of if they roll a dice poorly. Instead of actually being, y'know, evasive. Which is how the HW1 engine functioned.
+Vyporware yeah i know that just sucks and the doms review of homeworld 2 makes me personally dismiss the game story (it is so bland), im writing a fan fiction where homeworld 2 story never happened and exploring the politics and the obvious problems/challenges an infant race will face after being close to extermination.
+Vyporware There is no the three hyperspace core rule them all, no progenitors. The taiidan republic is back, the council finally make an apperence. and no last of the bentusi
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My favourite horror game. :)
We.... live...
This was fucking terrifieing the first time I played this game.
This part alone probably made me respect that alien for the rest of the game.
After i knew i had the battle won i went around using the pilot's view on the little ships ....lol
WE....LIVE
The story is amazing. Would be nice to get a remaster, which I know won't happen
What exactly happens to you? Do you get ripped apart or something?
There's an earlier comment where we all discuss that very thing.
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Vyporware So...if I understand it right, your body is ripped apart and integrated into the ship...while you're still alive? Jesus christ.
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Yeah pretty much from what I understand. Fun stuff huh?
Vyporware Yeah, sounds fun!
it uses ur organic matter to create links with the mechanical parts and thus u are just a spectator to a nightmare where ur only existence is that of immortal pain and anguish as ur mind and body are shred to pieces and u watch urself killing ur friends and family and destroying everything u ever knew and loved.
so yes
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This always gave me System Shock vibes
For me, Cataclysm is better than Homeworld 1 and Homeworld 2.
HW1 was truly amazing, and won several of the PC Gamer Magazine awards, in their March 2000 issue. Cataclysm is either on par with it, or just below it.
@@johnpooky84 you're right, and I believe we all agree that HW2 is the worst in the trio.
@@owenhsia5052 *quartet. Don't forget about Deserts of Kharak
@@johnpooky84 well...DoK is another story.
@@owenhsia5052 It has its problems, which I don't want to rant about right now, but I liked it better than HW2.