You guys always have great episodes this is becoming my best show on baseball/sports cards & the hobbby. I think Ohtani is and will always be great for the sport. His only comparable "double threat" is Ruth and thats saying something (no other player in 80+ years). His bat and pitching are legit & pretty much at equal levels (no doubt he could big the biggest bat on any team as well as the ace). I believe like all other players with age when production does go down in the long term he already made his mark on baseball (but we all want to see him keep it up). I believe his work ethic and drive will propel him forward just hope the body holds up. Really wished I jumped on certain cards earlier but it was hard to tell like you mentioned in years 19/20 by then it was 3 years into the show already. On a side note I feel the same way about the media and their true colors showing, (all of them want to be the first to run the latest story first etc - loss some respect for ex. of Ken Rosenthal as much as I appreciate his journalism) Ohtani doesn't have to say a word besides it kept all media on an equal playing field and goes to show none of them were right, although at other times they do have the latest word just not this time. Basically Ohtani did no favors for any of them and it showed they were mad and unfairly said some untrue things like he has an obligation etc to helping his career (more like their careers). As far as contracts go lately I've been trying to look at it differently. If teams actually paid for what certain players are worth early in their career especially stars.... and stars on the Hall Of Fame path then it doesn't look bad but it doesn't work that way. Can you really blame the player when production goes down when we all know its inevitable to happen but early in their careers teams got away with minimum to covering arbitration years and had more leverage. Thats the way the system works. Anyway good show👍
Thanks for watching! Yeah it would make more sense to lock players up at young ages with front loaded deals that pay them less moment as they pass their prime. Tough to change the whole system though, and that would put so much risk into those deals! As much as I hate seeing Ohtani come to. National league, I know I’m going to watch a lot of his games because he’s just that exciting.
Great episode. I like Ohtani’s cards long term. There are shorter-term risks that you covered, particularly how 2024 goes after the surgery. Very true that rare cards start to appear around these times. Can be challenging weighing opportunity to pick up the card you’ve been looking for with likely having to pay more for it. Looking forward to the next installment. Would like to hear everyone’s thoughts on SPs, SSPs, and numbered parallels. Would be helpful to briefly define what they are and compare the desirability of all three from a collecting and an investing standpoint.
Chris here - we did a video about SSP on our Blabbin’ ‘Bout Slabbin’ channel. I love ‘em! I’m always hunting for rare ssp - talk about cards that never show up! I’ll make sure we talk about them more in depth sometime soon. Thanks for watching!
@@SpitballinCardsThanks, Chris. I’ll have to check out your channel and the episode on SSPs. Appreciate the response and thanks for considering discussing them more here as well.
Can anyone live up to the hype of $700 million dollars...only time will tell, but he still has huge numbers to catch he is still not a HOF'er....even if the modern card market demands HOF+ numbers on the prices of his cards, they are all insane, but reality will catch up.
Definitely needs more years to make to the HOF, but I don’t think he needs the usual numbers to get there - especially he successfully gets back on the mound in LA.
Scottie giving another masterclass in dissecting baseball and all the angles there within. We missed the Philmington card market input/edited rants(lol) but great discussion yet again. I will be rooting for "anyone but the Dodgers", but I get your point that Betts/Freeman/Ohtani are all likeable talents in their own right. The Dodgers are just the evil empire of this era.
Ohtani's cards have jumped up big time. His 2018 Topps Series 2 and Topps Chrome PSA 10's have almost doubled since his signing with LA. Went to a 150 Table Card Show this weekend, and only saw 1 2018 Topps Chrome PSA 10 and a few 2018 Topps PSA 9s for sale. Dealers are holding onto Ohtani, and the few i saw were way overpriced.
That was my experience at the Burbank show back over Labor Day - at least the overpriced part. Plenty of base rookies everywhere back then. We all just want to see postseason Ohtani activate!
The lineup after June 1. Volpe 2. Judge 3. Soto 4. J. Dominguez 5. R-I-Z-Z-O 6. Torres 7. Stanon 8. Whoever plays 3 base 9. DJ, turns the lineup over well
The problem with Will Smith potentially breaking an RBI record is that he will have fewer chances to DH. He's probably going to get under 500 ABs as a catcher. I actually question his long term status on the dodgers. Their offense is stacked so they might want a defensive first catcher in the future. It can't be understated how important Smith has been to the dodgers since 2019 though. When he came back to the lineup after his concussion scare they were winning more games. He's a free agent in 2026 so he has some time. Plus Cartaya is still young and had a below average year in AA. I think Smith is probably safe until at least 2026. After that I don't know. Barnes probably won't get much playing time especially if Kershaw doesn't return.
This is true - the dh slot has been filled. For the dodgers’ sake, hopefully Smith will work on his pop time this off season. But you have to think a lot of RHP will just point Ohtani to 1b and go after smith.
For me, having Ohtani go to the Dodgers is like if Adam Levine started singing Nickelback songs. I still like him, but it's going to be really hard to cheer for him.
The Dodgers didn't cause this problem. The NewYork teams and San Diego went all out to outbid everyone. Some owners don't even try but have money. This is a unique experience for Dodgers. Plus Boris has cause the high.cost. I would think if you can't compete get out.
It’s so rare that a top player hits free agency at 26! He’s going to get a ton of cash and unlike most free agents, Soto’s new team will get his prime years. I get that he offers limited defensive value, but the offensive value is crazy high. We’ll see what he gets!
the second surgery that he had done is not the traditional tommy john. It is a new hybrid version that allows for faster healing and it to heal stronger. This could be called the Shohei Ohtani surgery going forward. There are reports that potentially he could be ready to throw/pitch by Sept. Hold onto those Ohtani cards. I predict 3 WS wins, 2 MVPs at least in the 10 year span. I'm hoping he gets 8 rings and breaks Tom Brady's record. Imagine the value of his cards if that happens. 8 rings in a 10 year span.
You guys always have great episodes this is becoming my best show on baseball/sports cards & the hobbby. I think Ohtani is and will always be great for the sport. His only comparable "double threat" is Ruth and thats saying something (no other player in 80+ years). His bat and pitching are legit & pretty much at equal levels (no doubt he could big the biggest bat on any team as well as the ace). I believe like all other players with age when production does go down in the long term he already made his mark on baseball (but we all want to see him keep it up). I believe his work ethic and drive will propel him forward just hope the body holds up. Really wished I jumped on certain cards earlier but it was hard to tell like you mentioned in years 19/20 by then it was 3 years into the show already.
On a side note I feel the same way about the media and their true colors showing, (all of them want to be the first to run the latest story first etc - loss some respect for ex. of Ken Rosenthal as much as I appreciate his journalism) Ohtani doesn't have to say a word besides it kept all media on an equal playing field and goes to show none of them were right, although at other times they do have the latest word just not this time. Basically Ohtani did no favors for any of them and it showed they were mad and unfairly said some untrue things like he has an obligation etc to helping his career (more like their careers). As far as contracts go lately I've been trying to look at it differently. If teams actually paid for what certain players are worth early in their career especially stars.... and stars on the Hall Of Fame path then it doesn't look bad but it doesn't work that way. Can you really blame the player when production goes down when we all know its inevitable to happen but early in their careers teams got away with minimum to covering arbitration years and had more leverage. Thats the way the system works. Anyway good show👍
Thanks for watching!
Yeah it would make more sense to lock players up at young ages with front loaded deals that pay them less moment as they pass their prime.
Tough to change the whole system though, and that would put so much risk into those deals!
As much as I hate seeing Ohtani come to. National league, I know I’m going to watch a lot of his games because he’s just that exciting.
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the support. Happy Holidays!
19:25 like the Topps Opening day podium RC...or him holding up Puka Acua jersey ssp..
I like Ty's take on Ohtani/Barry Sanders comparison. I like the humble player who is at least somewhat secret and doesn't throw it all out there.
Probably. I just hope my sealed 2018 wax climbs in value.
I can’t imagine it won’t!
Great discussion gents!
Thanks for watching!
The Barry Sanders comparison for Ohtani is spot on.
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What 30:18 ? He gotta standing ovation at the Rams game on Thursday!
24:10 of course an injury is going to affect his play...but it will be temporary..patience is the key... with the fans...not the player!
Patience is not a common trait in the sports card world!
I'm more worried about Roberts...more than Shohei..
Great episode. I like Ohtani’s cards long term. There are shorter-term risks that you covered, particularly how 2024 goes after the surgery. Very true that rare cards start to appear around these times. Can be challenging weighing opportunity to pick up the card you’ve been looking for with likely having to pay more for it.
Looking forward to the next installment. Would like to hear everyone’s thoughts on SPs, SSPs, and numbered parallels. Would be helpful to briefly define what they are and compare the desirability of all three from a collecting and an investing standpoint.
Chris here - we did a video about SSP on our Blabbin’ ‘Bout Slabbin’ channel. I love ‘em! I’m always hunting for rare ssp - talk about cards that never show up!
I’ll make sure we talk about them more in depth sometime soon.
Thanks for watching!
@@SpitballinCardsThanks, Chris. I’ll have to check out your channel and the episode on SSPs. Appreciate the response and thanks for considering discussing them more here as well.
@@JohnNP3 No prob! Thanks for watching and feel free to hit me up on IG to talk ssp anytime!
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Can anyone live up to the hype of $700 million dollars...only time will tell, but he still has huge numbers to catch he is still not a HOF'er....even if the modern card market demands HOF+ numbers on the prices of his cards, they are all insane, but reality will catch up.
Definitely needs more years to make to the HOF, but I don’t think he needs the usual numbers to get there - especially he successfully gets back on the mound in LA.
Well done 🎉
Thanks buddy!
Great show guys! Except how can a Rockies fan be defending the economics of baseball!??!? 🤷🏻♂️
Freddie and Mookie were MVP candidates...
Most importantly, Scott, what will be his longest home run distance at Coors Field at the next 10 years?
😂😂 - with Colorado pitching? 625 feet!!
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Scottie giving another masterclass in dissecting baseball and all the angles there within. We missed the Philmington card market input/edited rants(lol) but great discussion yet again. I will be rooting for "anyone but the Dodgers", but I get your point that Betts/Freeman/Ohtani are all likeable talents in their own right. The Dodgers are just the evil empire of this era.
Dodgers are becoming the villains of mlb. They have an advantage over every other franchise - and they’re using it!
All his cards prices are already baked in with 15 all star, 4 rings, and 3 MVP .
It really feels like it!!
Soto's 2016 bowman chrome auto price shoot up a lot after the trade.
I know asking prices sure increased as well!
Merry Christmas @spitballingcard panel members and chat 🎁 🌲 ☃️
2024 Tpott make a NBA card podcast please.
Happy holidays and thanks for watching!
I’ll wait for either the slump or an injury; it’s inevitable, before investing.
Hopefully just the slump…
Ohtani's cards have jumped up big time. His 2018 Topps Series 2 and Topps Chrome PSA 10's have almost doubled since his signing with LA. Went to a 150 Table Card Show this weekend, and only saw 1 2018 Topps Chrome PSA 10 and a few 2018 Topps PSA 9s for sale. Dealers are holding onto Ohtani, and the few i saw were way overpriced.
That was my experience at the Burbank show back over Labor Day - at least the overpriced part. Plenty of base rookies everywhere back then.
We all just want to see postseason Ohtani activate!
The lineup after June
1. Volpe
2. Judge
3. Soto
4. J. Dominguez
5. R-I-Z-Z-O
6. Torres
7. Stanon
8. Whoever plays 3 base
9. DJ, turns the lineup over well
If they stay healthy, that lineup is going to score some runs!
You think they use Soto to protect Judge? Interesting
I think LA was a much brighter trajectory than Toronto...... Dodgers looking for Ohtani play LF when his arm heals....
I saw that story but it just seems nuts. Why out any more wear and tear on his body??
The problem with Will Smith potentially breaking an RBI record is that he will have fewer chances to DH. He's probably going to get under 500 ABs as a catcher. I actually question his long term status on the dodgers. Their offense is stacked so they might want a defensive first catcher in the future. It can't be understated how important Smith has been to the dodgers since 2019 though. When he came back to the lineup after his concussion scare they were winning more games. He's a free agent in 2026 so he has some time. Plus Cartaya is still young and had a below average year in AA. I think Smith is probably safe until at least 2026. After that I don't know. Barnes probably won't get much playing time especially if Kershaw doesn't return.
This is true - the dh slot has been filled.
For the dodgers’ sake, hopefully Smith will work on his pop time this off season.
But you have to think a lot of RHP will just point Ohtani to 1b and go after smith.
100%
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For me, having Ohtani go to the Dodgers is like if Adam Levine started singing Nickelback songs. I still like him, but it's going to be really hard to cheer for him.
Please no Ohtani Topps x!!!
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The Dodgers didn't cause this problem. The NewYork teams and San Diego went all out to outbid everyone. Some owners don't even try but have money. This is a unique experience for Dodgers. Plus Boris has cause the high.cost. I would think if you can't compete get out.
I wouldn't pay Soto 400 million because he's a glorified dh
It’s so rare that a top player hits free agency at 26! He’s going to get a ton of cash and unlike most free agents, Soto’s new team will get his prime years.
I get that he offers limited defensive value, but the offensive value is crazy high.
We’ll see what he gets!
@@SpitballinCards I totally agree he will definitely get it. I just wouldn't want my team allocating that much money to one position
The 116 win mariners didn’t win so baseball is just a crap shoot
The postseason truly is. Just about anything can happen.
the second surgery that he had done is not the traditional tommy john. It is a new hybrid version that allows for faster healing and it to heal stronger. This could be called the Shohei Ohtani surgery going forward. There are reports that potentially he could be ready to throw/pitch by Sept. Hold onto those Ohtani cards. I predict 3 WS wins, 2 MVPs at least in the 10 year span. I'm hoping he gets 8 rings and breaks Tom Brady's record. Imagine the value of his cards if that happens. 8 rings in a 10 year span.
That is one hell of a prediction.
If you truly believe that’s possible - get buying!!
Dodgers are due for some catastrophic injuries 🙌
The Dodgers have had some pretty bad injuries in the past and yet still find a way to win✌🏼