Ohtani just wants to win and he is doing all he can to help his team win. If people are criticizing him, let them. Ohtani is doing nothing illegal or even unethical. All other great players don't really care about their team, they care about themselves and getting the most money and biggest contract. Ohtani clearly is not driven by money, but by winning. If anyone should be mad, it should be directed at all the other players who drive up contracts for themselves. Those players ruin the game, not Ohtani.
@@JimONeil He did care about winning in the past, but first he had to prove himself to MLB teams. The Angels did give him a chance to do both pitching and hitting, so that is one of the main reasons he went with them. He had to prove himself. Now that he has proven himself, he is in this position and now it's all about winning. Let's see how this turns out. I predict he will get a handful of championships with the Dodgers before his career is over. If so, he would immortalize himself in the history of MLB. How many multiple MVP winners have won multiple championships? Only Joe Dimaggio, Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan, I think.
I salute ohtani , by deferring his contract means he wants his team to get best player to help them win , anyway he’s still getting money from his endorsements😂😂😂
Sho-time's a different cat. Pragmatic... an introvert... and a perfectionist. Barkley said that athletes should not be viewed as role models. But, in a world in need of real-life "heroes", Ohtani's a good example of someone kids can emulate and look up to.
Ohtani keeps proving it is not just about the money. He lived in dorms, went to MLB forgoing hundreds of millions and now this differment. He just wants to be the best player he can be and achive as much as he can. Would we like him to do more interviews? Yes but in 20 years when his carear is over and most fans will talk about him like a myth to their kids will it matter.
I don't think teams looking to sign next big league player will need to worry about agents asking for Ohtani money 🤑 He is a one of a kind player with a rare contract.
One of the reasons why Ohtani chose the Dodgers over the Blue Jays is because of the broadcast time slot from Japan. The Dodgers on the West Coast will be broadcasting around 10 a.m., while the East Coast Blue Jays will be broadcast around 2 a.m. Japan time. In other words, Japanese people will not be able to watch live broadcasts of East Coast teams for the next 10 years. Otani wants Japanese people, especially children, to watch him play baseball live. That's why I first decided on the West Coast Angels.
Hope to see Yamamoto (SF giants) and Ohtani (LA dodgers) face off against each other… and that would not only create more japanese mlb fans for the giants and dodgers but also an MLB lovely rich 100year plus rivalry ✌🏼
No there is loophole- that they have to show the money is there in statement and then they can take it out - search for nothing personal - David Sampson -
Shohei gave the Angels 6 years and his elbow and now Angels fans are saying he's a traitor and hope he never wins. I guess they would all about that lmao
Basically. Kind of crazy despite both him and Trout being together for 6 years you'd be hard pressed to name a single above average pitcher that was consistent over that time, outside of Ohtani himself, despite a huge need for that for over 10 years now
Most Angel fans are happy for him. They are rooting for him in L.A. I am an Angels fan first and will miss him, but he deserves better. I am happy for Shohei and I hope Trout finds a way to get a ring before he retires.
I have so dog in this because I follow wherever Shohei goes as a peripheral baseball fan. But, this is called sour grapes. The Angels had their chances, they couldn't put a winning team together, so sayonara.
Next season, if a Dodgers game starts at night, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 11:10 a.m. Also, if the local game starts at noon, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 5:10 a.m. For example, if the East Coast game starts at night, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 8:10 a.m. Also, if the local game starts at noon, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 2:10 a.m. That's why in Japan, most people in Japan are in bed and can't see Ohtani during the live broadcast of the daytime game on the East Coast.
The criticism stems from the Western perspective, Ohtani grew up looking at things differently and it shows. The Dodgers are about to experience ‘FERNANDO MANIA’ all over again times 10!
How do you have 2 of the best players in all of baseball and can't make the playoffs. That's something about baseball that just never quite made sense to me.
Yes, depends on the discount rate that's applied to the $68M that gets paid starting in 2034. But about $46M per year in present-day money. And that's how much the Dodgers have to put in escrow per year.
@@mr.perksy It counts against the CBT only over the lifetime of the deal (2024-2033). Because technically they are paying from 2024-2033, but just into escrow. Then it collects interest and is officially paid out starting in 2034.
bombers didn't overly pursue ohtani b/c they got juan soto. soto was a hero during the nats '19 world series title run, but i don't think anybod in the a.l. is really worried
When the best player in a sport speaks it stops the sport and he decided the dodgers were the best opportunity to win the most in the least amount of time
We betfer not be dragging A$$ on that team. This is a team that is now looking at Ohtani. Hes right there making Austin Barnes money! We better not be losing with him there. He is a legend. Losing is not an option!
Otani is humble and reserved, also he might not be so confident physically given the fact that he’s gonna have another surgery next year. Yamamoto, my favorite pitcher, rumored to sign with the Dodgers, hope he will sign with the Yankees. My wish 🙏🇯🇵🇯🇵 Yamamoto san, Please come to N.Y. ‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸
Mets need to outbid to get him. They gave two old 40 year old pitchers 43M per year. With this in mind, what is a 25 year old phenom worth?????? 40m x 10 years = 400M
I’m a baseball casual. Someone explain this to me like I’m five years old. If there’s no salary cap in baseball then how is him deferring this money going to help him from hamstringing the team? Also, if this is a 10 year deal then why would they have to pay off the rest of the contract from 2033-2043?
There's no salary cap but a luxury tax called the competitive balance task. His salary won't count towards the tax these next seasons cuz 97% is being deferred to 33-43
The luxury tax, which exceeds the standard total annual salary imposed on a team, is imposed on active players who are affiliated with the team, so they are not subject to the luxury tax regardless of how much the team pays them because they are not affiliated players once their 10-year contract is over.But I can't think of any other player other than Otani who would agree to such a low salary for 10 years.
@@bolognamozart I mean I get the idea of luxury tax -they have that in the NBA (and if that’s the case, doesn’t the MLB have a “soft cap?) but what I’m saying is how does him deferring the payments actually help the team when as it’s been discussed the Dodgers have basically more money than anybody right?
@@user-uu9nf8fi1i kind of said this to the other user but I get the idea of luxury tax, they have that in the NBA. But if the Dodgers basically have unlimited payroll (like he said about the Mets as well), then how does putting off paying him till 2033 help the team? And I thought it was a 10 year deal why are we talking about him getting paid into 2043?
@@ZacharyJohnG One reason I can think of to not want to pay the tax is it's basically putting money in your competition's pocket. And they can use that $ to sign other players. Rich people don't like paying tax even if they can afford it lol
We'll take Trout too if he wants and we'll take Yamamoto and Sasaki too and Hader can close for us our payroll will be theoretically 1.4B a year but who cares about money we'll be selling tickets in the parking lot with monster big screens ppl will be able to look any direction and watch a big screen and it'll be the tailgate section tickets those sections might be more expensive they'll never have to b get out of tneir cars and we'll have street vendors out their for their convenience
@@BohotTheRobot we'll make so much money with the Ohtani signing not even worried about the money we'll have to open a drive In area where ppl can tailgate and watch the from the car on monster big screens while BBQing on the tailgate of their trucks or cars
This is horrible for baseball Dodgers can now load the lineup and maybe defer their whole roster. This makes baseball loaded on one team just watch them snatch up every good free agent. Tom V seems to keep reporting its legal its legal but maybe not good for baseball for anyone but the Dodgers.
25' will see us in the WS - Roberts will be fired after getting swept by the Rockies in the 24' play-offs - whom would have 1/3 the salary of the Dodgers! New bus driver!!!!
Yeah he wants to win now but he is totally screwing them when he is gone. Screw you guys I won't be here. Not that LA will be poor but 48-68m in money for nothing on the field isn't NOTHING. I dunno, seems good in the short term but breaking it down seems quite selfish.
1:45 Can we chill on the "most talented player in the history of baseball" stuff? He's had a six year career. This sport has 150 years of history. Come on.
Six years in MLB, but his professional career started when he was 18. Dont discount that period just because it was outside of your American experience
Ohtani just wants to win and he is doing all he can to help his team win. If people are criticizing him, let them. Ohtani is doing nothing illegal or even unethical. All other great players don't really care about their team, they care about themselves and getting the most money and biggest contract. Ohtani clearly is not driven by money, but by winning. If anyone should be mad, it should be directed at all the other players who drive up contracts for themselves. Those players ruin the game, not Ohtani.
He wants to win now. He didn't care about winning at all when he decided to go to the Angels six years ago.
@@JimONeil He did care about winning in the past, but first he had to prove himself to MLB teams. The Angels did give him a chance to do both pitching and hitting, so that is one of the main reasons he went with them. He had to prove himself.
Now that he has proven himself, he is in this position and now it's all about winning. Let's see how this turns out. I predict he will get a handful of championships with the Dodgers before his career is over. If so, he would immortalize himself in the history of MLB.
How many multiple MVP winners have won multiple championships? Only Joe Dimaggio, Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan, I think.
I salute ohtani , by deferring his contract means he wants his team to get best player to help them win , anyway he’s still getting money from his endorsements😂😂😂
He’s a fucking legend.
A LEGEND defers 97% of his salary to help the team.
Because he’s getting 50 million off the field in endorsements 👍✅👍 plus all the money he’s made before
He wants rings and a triple crown 👑👑👑 an that's about it
Love Tom Verducci. Clear concise discussions and to the point. Go Shohei! ⚾️ 🧢
He’s right let’s appreciate the sport like Ohtani instead of always being skeptical
Sho-time's a different cat. Pragmatic... an introvert... and a perfectionist. Barkley said that athletes should not be viewed as role models. But, in a world in need of real-life "heroes", Ohtani's a good example of someone kids can emulate and look up to.
Ohtani keeps proving it is not just about the money. He lived in dorms, went to MLB forgoing hundreds of millions and now this differment. He just wants to be the best player he can be and achive as much as he can. Would we like him to do more interviews? Yes but in 20 years when his carear is over and most fans will talk about him like a myth to their kids will it matter.
'deferment'. but yes agree, well-said
I don't think teams looking to sign next big league player will need to worry about agents asking for Ohtani money 🤑 He is a one of a kind player with a rare contract.
野球以外で収入が40億以上ある大谷だから出来る契約です
One of the reasons why Ohtani chose the Dodgers over the Blue Jays is because of the broadcast time slot from Japan. The Dodgers on the West Coast will be broadcasting around 10 a.m., while the East Coast Blue Jays will be broadcast around 2 a.m. Japan time. In other words, Japanese people will not be able to watch live broadcasts of East Coast teams for the next 10 years. Otani wants Japanese people, especially children, to watch him play baseball live. That's why I first decided on the West Coast Angels.
😂😂 there’s not a 8hr difference bro.
Shohei had two choices. Be stuck in traffic or stuck in snow. He chose traffic. I would have done the same
He chose the Dodgers because that's been his dream team since high school. The lack of universal DH prevented him from going there in 2017.
Good point
Huh? There’s a 3 hour time difference. You mean 10am vs 7am?
Hope to see Yamamoto (SF giants) and Ohtani (LA dodgers) face off against each other…
and that would not only create more japanese mlb fans for the giants and dodgers but also an MLB lovely rich 100year plus rivalry ✌🏼
The Dodgers still have to put about $46 million per year in escrow. So it's not just costing them $2M per year.
No there is loophole- that they have to show the money is there in statement and then they can take it out - search for nothing personal - David Sampson -
Japanese sponsors will pay more than half of his 700
Absolutely 💯
Shohei gave the Angels 6 years and his elbow and now Angels fans are saying he's a traitor and hope he never wins. I guess they would all about that lmao
Basically. Kind of crazy despite both him and Trout being together for 6 years you'd be hard pressed to name a single above average pitcher that was consistent over that time, outside of Ohtani himself, despite a huge need for that for over 10 years now
They can keep Trout and cry some more about losing.
Most Angel fans are happy for him. They are rooting for him in L.A. I am an Angels fan first and will miss him, but he deserves better. I am happy for Shohei and I hope Trout finds a way to get a ring before he retires.
I have so dog in this because I follow wherever Shohei goes as a peripheral baseball fan. But, this is called sour grapes. The Angels had their chances, they couldn't put a winning team together, so sayonara.
Rich Salty 😂 because he’s playing for the Dodgers and not the Yankees
Next season, if a Dodgers game starts at night, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 11:10 a.m. Also, if the local game starts at noon, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 5:10 a.m.
For example, if the East Coast game starts at night, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 8:10 a.m. Also, if the local game starts at noon, the broadcast time in Japan will start at 2:10 a.m.
That's why in Japan, most people in Japan are in bed and can't see Ohtani during the live broadcast of the daytime game on the East Coast.
日本語字幕を添付して下さい🙇（リッチアイゼンさんの解説好きです）
今回のVerducciは説明と情報が秀逸。Passan、Morosi、Heyman、Rosenthal、Olney、Nightingaleとかいろいろ名物記者いるけどナンバーワンだよね。
The criticism stems from the Western perspective, Ohtani grew up looking at things differently and it shows. The Dodgers are about to experience ‘FERNANDO MANIA’ all over again times 10!
Don't why, but I can not stop listening this episode ...
How do you have 2 of the best players in all of baseball and can't make the playoffs. That's something about baseball that just never quite made sense to me.
Against the luxury tax, his contract still counts as $46m, so he's still a big cap hit but not nearly as large as he could've been.
Nice reporting Ken. Miss your work on MLB network.
大谷の効果は、日本の山本や佐々木といった宝石はもちろん、多国籍のスター選手が大谷と一緒のチーム＝ドジャースに入りたいというスカウト王国になったということ🎉
すでに効果てきめんですね！
Ohtani is getting a lot of money elsewhere. He’s fine lol
When you factor in inflation and rising mlb contracts and no interest, isn’t the 70 mil a year then essentially going to be like 50 mil a year now?
Yes, depends on the discount rate that's applied to the $68M that gets paid starting in 2034. But about $46M per year in present-day money. And that's how much the Dodgers have to put in escrow per year.
@@tenningale But from 2034-2043 does the $68m per year paid out to him count against the CBT, or no?
@@mr.perksy It counts against the CBT only over the lifetime of the deal (2024-2033). Because technically they are paying from 2024-2033, but just into escrow. Then it collects interest and is officially paid out starting in 2034.
As an Angels fan this whole situation hurts my soul… I need our owner to sell or to change as a person.
bombers didn't overly pursue ohtani b/c they got juan soto. soto was a hero during the nats '19 world series title run, but i don't think anybod in the a.l. is really worried
When the best player in a sport speaks it stops the sport and he decided the dodgers were the best opportunity to win the most in the least amount of time
😂😂 after Ohtani's deal, the Yankees were like get Boras on the phone stat😂😂
Trout to Phillies ✅✅✅
We betfer not be dragging A$$ on that team. This is a team that is now looking at Ohtani. Hes right there making Austin Barnes money! We better not be losing with him there. He is a legend. Losing is not an option!
Otani is humble and reserved, also
he might not be so confident physically
given the fact that he’s gonna have another surgery next year.
Yamamoto, my favorite pitcher,
rumored to sign with the Dodgers,
hope he will sign with the Yankees.
My wish 🙏🇯🇵🇯🇵
Yamamoto san,
Please come to N.Y. ‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@JohnnySnotzemayes he is that is why he can't pitch next year.
Mets need to outbid to get him. They gave two old 40 year old pitchers 43M per year. With this in mind, what is a 25 year old phenom worth?????? 40m x 10 years = 400M
Ohtani is on another level. Instead of getting fucked every year through taxes.
I don’t understand the love for LA. They have fewer WS TITLES THAN THE CARDINALS. They need 10 WS TITLES TO MAKE THIS A VALUABLE CONTRACT.
I’m a baseball casual. Someone explain this to me like I’m five years old. If there’s no salary cap in baseball then how is him deferring this money going to help him from hamstringing the team? Also, if this is a 10 year deal then why would they have to pay off the rest of the contract from 2033-2043?
There's no salary cap but a luxury tax called the competitive balance task. His salary won't count towards the tax these next seasons cuz 97% is being deferred to 33-43
The luxury tax, which exceeds the standard total annual salary imposed on a team, is imposed on active players who are affiliated with the team, so they are not subject to the luxury tax regardless of how much the team pays them because they are not affiliated players once their 10-year contract is over.But I can't think of any other player other than Otani who would agree to such a low salary for 10 years.
@@bolognamozart I mean I get the idea of luxury tax -they have that in the NBA (and if that’s the case, doesn’t the MLB have a “soft cap?) but what I’m saying is how does him deferring the payments actually help the team when as it’s been discussed the Dodgers have basically more money than anybody right?
@@user-uu9nf8fi1i kind of said this to the other user but I get the idea of luxury tax, they have that in the NBA. But if the Dodgers basically have unlimited payroll (like he said about the Mets as well), then how does putting off paying him till 2033 help the team? And I thought it was a 10 year deal why are we talking about him getting paid into 2043?
@@ZacharyJohnG One reason I can think of to not want to pay the tax is it's basically putting money in your competition's pocket. And they can use that $ to sign other players. Rich people don't like paying tax even if they can afford it lol
mlb needs a salary cap
I like the dodgers but deterring is avoiding luxury tax thus cheating the other teams
The other teams can do the same. If it’s allowed, it’s not cheating.
ohtani's deal and deferral makes him look like a genius and unselfish.
WHERE IS THE MATT ARAIZA APOLOGY???
When will obtani bat dh this season. Jim yohe. Pahrump nv go dodgers
Rich get richer.. Let's go get Yamamoto
We'll take Trout too if he wants and we'll take Yamamoto and Sasaki too and Hader can close for us our payroll will be theoretically 1.4B a year but who cares about money we'll be selling tickets in the parking lot with monster big screens ppl will be able to look any direction and watch a big screen and it'll be the tailgate section tickets those sections might be more expensive they'll never have to b
get out of tneir cars and we'll have street vendors out their for their convenience
And even with all of that still somehow not win it all
@@BohotTheRobot I don't know about that that would be a serious lineup hell we might have to bring back Cody and Puig
@@BohotTheRobot we'll make so much money with the Ohtani signing not even worried about the money we'll have to open a drive In area where ppl can tailgate and watch the from the car on monster big screens while BBQing on the tailgate of their trucks or cars
@@BohotTheRobot every Angels fan will travel to Dodgers stadium to watch Otani play
@@BohotTheRobot please! you're just a hater probably a whining Giants fan figures from Forty Whiner country
This is horrible for baseball Dodgers can now load the lineup and maybe defer their whole roster. This makes baseball loaded on one team just watch them snatch up every good free agent. Tom V seems to keep reporting its legal its legal but maybe not good for baseball for anyone but the Dodgers.
Everybody suddenly wants to defer their payment and play for the Dodgers now?
DO NOT GET HADER!!!!
全部エンゼルスのオーナーのせい
They still won’t win a World Series 😂
They will win several (3 minimum) in the next 10 years. Personally, I think it will be 5.
@@coryvincent1932 I hope they break not only the Yankees, but also the Celtics and Oilers consecutive win records.
25' will see us in the WS - Roberts will be fired after getting swept by the Rockies in the 24' play-offs - whom would have 1/3 the salary of the Dodgers! New bus driver!!!!
They won’t win more than 1 if they’re lucky.
Yeah he wants to win now but he is totally screwing them when he is gone. Screw you guys I won't be here. Not that LA will be poor but 48-68m in money for nothing on the field isn't NOTHING. I dunno, seems good in the short term but breaking it down seems quite selfish.
Rich I've watched for weeks. It's your show is getting very boring. I've even turned it off a few times
1:45 Can we chill on the "most talented player in the history of baseball" stuff? He's had a six year career. This sport has 150 years of history. Come on.
Six years in MLB, but his professional career started when he was 18. Dont discount that period just because it was outside of your American experience
Peoples champ just want to win...not like that aaron roger guy....
Ohtani should not get $700 million dollars period not any player
MONEY devaluation for Ohtani is not an issue , but in the end he is on the losing end.
Tom needs to stop