I’ve watched your videos for a three years now. You’re like a member of the family. You have taught me a lot. I ended up buying a Mitsubishi triton glx because you had one. It’s the best car I’ve had and I’m very happy with it. Even got myself a few olights too which are good bits of gear. I’ve done a bit of research on you and you’re not some bloke on TH-cam. You have a lot of experience and quals behind you. I don’t think people know your background. Thanks for the videos. I always let the ads play in your videos hopefully to support you.
Don’t worry about the wife mate, mine sent me out about ten years ago to buy a Commodore wagon but I came home with a ‘71 Ford Galaxie coupe with a seven litre motor. She wasn’t happy but by Christ I was! Still have both of them so get what you want - it’s worth the pain.
11 don't buy the all new rezzle dazzle body, drive train, and power plant model until some other mug (or preferably a lot of other mugs) have found all the problems and resolutions for problems. Thanks for the enlightenment. Regards Tony
Hey John, my partner and I have been watching your videos for over 3 years now. We love your Aussie humour and the stylish production set that only Aussies can do :P. We have two young kids under 3's and two cars (a family friendly Forester and a 2016 M135i). Given the prices for second hand car, especially for the last few breeds of that little hatch, we are looking to find a more roomier but still a 'fun' car for me if it made good economic sense. Is it worthwhile buying a bigger car now - be it slightly used or brand new with all these supply issues in the next few months? Regardless, thank you for a thoroughly entertaining channel.
I very happily used John's buying service last year. It was fantastic not having to "shop around"(too much). It was great not interacting with dealers. The price was almost too good to be true. Mind you, my Mazda tray doesn't ride like a Rolls nor perform like a Porsche. Caveat Emptor.
Advice I recently gave a friend who needed a new car in a hurry. First time car buyer too. 1. get 7 year finance with no early settlement fee from a respected credit union BEFORE you walk into the dealer. Know how much you can borrow. Why 7 years? If there is no early termination then there is no advantage in getting a time restriction on your loan. Get a long one, pay it off in 3 or 5 and if tragedy strikes, you lose your job whatever, you have a 2 year buffer and lower min repayments it's worth a small increase in interest rate and you don't need the insurance. 2. Don't make a decision on the showroom floor. Go home, work out exactly what you want, come back, give them a fair price between 5-10% off retail (in this market) and stick to it. 3. You don't need it. None of the extras are worth a cent unless you actually definitely, 100% are going to use them. So mats? 4. Don't fall for dealer demos. She got 8% off. So you don't need to be a shark to make this stuff work for you.
Id go one better, i got my new car loan on a 10 year loan with no early payment penalty, however made the bogan choice to get the new Dmax in june, looking like a 9-12 month wait, but at least ill get the 2022 model update
Another tip is if you're buying a car for yourself by yourself, have somebody else test drive it too. A friend or relative. Not only does it allow you to bounce your thoughts off somebody else who's not trying to sell you the car, it also allows you to experience the car as a passenger.
I don't know about Australia; but in United States finance companies usually cannot charge extra for paying early. Gap Insurance is for people who didn't put any money down; as a result depreciation gets way ahead of their payments, and the loan is termed upside down. If you need gap insurance you cannot afford the car
Early loan termination is a legal option on loans in Australia and is standard on Hire Purchase agreements which are the worst type of loan. Gap insurance is used to cover the gap between the insurable value of the car and the loan amount (used to be common for people buyingtheir first car at full finance (cars lose a significant amount of value as soon as they leave the car yard). This type of insurance is less nessasary as many insurers offer old for new covber for the first few years on new cars. Gap insurance is only important if the car gets written off. The reality is that most people can't afford cars hence they have to borrow money to buy them.
Love the colourful descriptions of sales tactics. Reminds me of a book that I bought about 30 years ago about buying cars in Oz. I know that it’s dated but I wonder how much of it is still relevant today. Like the tactic of letting you take the car of your (wet) dreams home for the weekend. Or sucking you into buying something that you clearly cannot afford but the easy credit of the in-house finance provider making it happen. Or you dump another $120k onto the mortgage to get that Sahara.
Off topic : I'm French and I follow your channel since quite a long time, and it's incredible how the picture of your country is changing all over the world with your government policy over Covid. By the way I really love your channel and it's interesting to see the evolution of the car market in other places. 👍
Although I’m not a fan of the current federal government here in Australia, Australia’s Covid response was mostly handled by our state governments. Though in regards to our international reputation, I cannot understand why other countries take exception to our ability to minimise Covid deaths per capita better than almost any other country on the planet. We saved lives!! Why is that so bad ?!
@@AutoExpertJC Being a laughing stock isn't your fault, though I don't find any of it funny personally. Like always it's the fault of the psychopathic control freaks that people allow to be in charge. It's a problem everywhere, not just Oz but I'm now glad I never followed through with my plans to move there. I'm fortunate enough to be in a place that hasn't gone very far (yet) when it comes to stripping away even more freedoms. Even the county sheriff has been releasing statements that he won't be enforcing most of their arbitrary rules.
When I window shop cars, I always wear my rattiest clothes, I’ve never had any salesperson try to sell me anything. They will however very quickly and indignantly answer my questions. I then tell them I’m just happy to look, and they will happily walk away to another more plausible victim.
First! We done come full circle, John. My induction to AutoExpert was your Genesis vid, which I showed the child bride to convince her on the purchase. Of course you are entirely correct. When told “Hyundai “, she said ‘I’m not driving a f**kin korean hatchback. In a collision, they fold faster than Superman on wash day! Now, she is Araldite Arse on that leather drivers seat.
Before I discovered this channel, it was bullshit o'clock every time I bought a new car. I dutifully stood on the X, pulled down my strides and bent over to receive my punishment, thinking I was getting a great deal every single time. But not next time Johnny boy. BTW, 6 wives? You're going senile - last week I'm sure it was only five! Seriously, my next new car will be a win for me and not the dealership. Thanks.
Followed your advice down to a T on last purchase "a posh Toyota" and they sold me my new car substantially cheaper than I though. What went down there and I still have my veggies! Thanks for the Olight push I now have Warrior Pro and Seeker 3 both insane knife and Boobie torch on the way so thanks again.
I knew exactly what car, what spec and what full retail was of the car I wanted (Prado Kakadu) when I walked into the first Toyota dealership, but the price and the $10k trade in they offered me was ludicrous. Second dealership was not much better. I got on the phone and called every dealership in 100km distance and asked to speak directly to the sales manager until I got the $10k discount I wanted and I sold my old car privately for $26k.
Thanks John for the tips, i will look into the wholesale selling path as an option i can never do private sell to much Gumtree tyre kickers , and also instead of knocking at ‘we buy cars’ or ‘we pay top dollar for cars’ ‘cash for you wheels’ on the main street outside Chermside shopping centre. Or the other route might be auction house such as Pickles but that might be risqué. I got sort idea of the ball park selling price using Redbook and estimated km ranges i deduct $100 per 1000km over Recommend trade in price i might add $200 or more depending on wear and age for added aftermarket accessories such as having the added benefit Aftermarket Android auto/Car-play stereo and Tow bar fitting which differentiates my car to the redbook car estimation. Trading cars at the dealer is highway robbery and they cared less for the aftermarket accessories thats my experience.
I always appreciate your advice. Too bad you’re not in Canada getting us good car deals! Still, your advice works on so many levels everywhere. Thanks John.
Thanks again for highlighting the need to put the brakes on when going to the showroom. I am wondering if it is possible to test drive by hooking up a caravan, then going for say 3/4 hour drive in our hilly city to test drive vehicles of interest? I spend 5 months a year spending money interstate towing a caravan (yes that thing John) and am looking for a 4 door diesel 4x4 ute to replace my aging Triton (which has run faultlessly), fingers x'd. I did note that you rang the death nell for the Mitsi/Nissi mix for the replacement 2022 Triton in your August report. Is it best to look for something now or will the discussed changes take place with the new model? I had seen the top 10 ute reviews from others over the past years and one road test did include towing a van something similar to mine. However, I would like to think that I could do this as well as the test driver as I am going to hand over my $'s and own something that I feel safe and comfortable to drive. Surely there would be several of us vanners (ha ha), perhaps tradies that continually tow a bigger trailer may be interested in your reply?
Hey John, couldn’t agree more with this. As a guy that is in the industry I rarely see newish cars with major problems, if anyone asks me I’ll tell them to get what ever they like the look of and for most people that’s what they’ll do anyway
Nar no psychic needed here dude, Just that John Boy reads the data properly, and lays it down straight, without bullshitting around the far paddock, next to shit creek.
@@michaelrussell6661 it’s more for the fact that these are very timely videos for me personally, as I am considering buying a hybrid next year! 😅 and here John is offering sage advice as always!
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew exactly why I bought an i30 diesel in 2016 rather than a Mazda 3, based on the advice of where I was getting my car serviced at the time.
I hate being ambushed. To the extent that I won't buy anything that I am being ambushed about. Even if it was exactly the right item at the right price. I just leave. Excellent advice.
If I was a car salesman, I would hate your guts. Cause you showed everyone my game, and how I do it. Damn you John! But I am a soon to be car buyer, and you just gave me another briefing on those car dealer sharks, and their latest beneath the surface predation. I love you more.
I must be poor...I don't need finance (I'll be paying cash) and I'm keeping my current vehicle (because it's good, collectable and useful). What leverage do I have at the salesman's desk?
Great timing with this video John! We are in the throws of researching the 'next' vehicle and are watching the EV and hydrogen vehicle developments with great interest. You video on Hybrids vs Plug-in hybrids vs ICEs was our first experience of the mirror being put up to our false authorities on how we viewed them as a natural stepping stone to EVs. The list of don'ts is written down and will take pride of place in our research for the new vehicle. Thanks as always for keeping us informed.
Great clip John. Good question. What’s better Do you have finance arranged like through a bank loan or go through someone else and have finance arranged for us
Agree with your point about the mistake of only buying the same brand. This is pretty common amongst the medical doctors in the US who only buy Mercedes-Benz and nothing else. Just because MB built reliable solid cars back in the 80s and 90s doesn’t mean that their cars are still reliable today in the 2020s.
Seems your consumer laws need an upgrade in Australia. Ist new car purchase in NZ went like this. 2015 Decided to buy new car. Had a good look around decided on make and model, waited until 2 days from end of month, made dealer ( salesperson) cash offer. Dealer said not enough, I revised my offer. Ok you win, what colour? Even before payment I was asked if I wanted to proceed with deal, no deposit was requested, then I was reminded of standard 24 hour cool down period if I changed my mind. Easy, no fish hooks. Though at present new cars are in short supply so the advantage is with the car dealers.
had a wonderful Mitsi Lancer VX and got 'Liberarceed' at 60km/h by that very same cockhead driving a '88 Commodore shitbox that JC mentioned. Lancer was written off. 1st insurance assessment for my car = $9.5K. Did some homework and the 2.4L engine/trans that was in immaculate condition was worth $5K alone. " Try again.. " I said. Ended up getting $14K. You can even negotiate with insurance companies.
Bloody hell! When I bought my two new cars in 1973 and 1976 (always bought 3 to five yo and kept them for 3 or 4 years since) it was an almost civilised and genteel process. Each salesman was OK with me shopping around to the other dealers here in Adelaide seeking the best change over price (when I didn’t manage to sell the old car privately for a better price). We did buy a new car in 2017, but not here in Australia.
Sorry John, I don’t live in Australia so I can’t help with cars but will just sit back and listen. Priceless response to a viewers long Email ‘move over War and Peace’ . Good laugh!….
In the process of getting the new dmax, but cos i waited til june to put down a deposit, supply issues mean i get the 2022 model update instead, wife is very happy for heated seats
I didn't know that gap insurance was still a thing for new cars. Any half decent comprehensive policy usually has a new-for-old replacement option (if not a standard feature) that'll cover the insured for at least a couple of years from new. Some will offer it for as long as 4 years from new. Either way, 100% agree that insurance is something that new car buyers should take seriously.
Used car prices are simply ridiculous, we have been offered just 15% less as a trade in than we paid for my wife’s car new - TWO YEARS AGO. usually 2 years in is when you start to get close to parity on the finance outstanding, we currently have 30% equity on it! If you are in a position to trade down to a lesser car (for whatever reason) DO IT NOW, you’ll be in a good position for having done it.
I think if you go private you're got half a chance of getting what you paid right now. Corollas went from $22k to $27k for example. So a nice 2nd hand one is still not unreasonable at $22k
I took my trade in 2010 Nissan Navara to a major Toyota dealer for a quote on a new hybrid. The straight faced sales person offered me $15,000 if I signed now for a car to be possibly delivered in 6 to 10 months. This was a much better offer than I had earlier from a Hyundai dealer. As an after thought he said that of course at this time my trade would have to be re-appraised again remembering that contract had been signed & deposit paid already. I must have had STUPID stamped on my forehead if I was going to accept this deal. Why didn't he offer me $50,000 as the offer didn't mean diddly squat?
I do not have a signifiant female other but I find it useful to invent one, a dragon one at that, who couldn't be here today, but who would absolutely kill me if I agreed to anything without first passing it by her.
Used car prices have gone bananas a friend recently sold their car to a dealer who approached via the advertisement in gumtree for only $1000 below what they were asking they had been willing to accept $2500 below the final price. There appears to be desperation and fear in second hand dealer land that they just don’t have enough second hand stock to turnover to generate the commissions needed to buy a steady stream of leather jackets. A most pleasurable scenario as secondhand slimers are even a lower subspecies than new car dealers.
Hi John. I was wondering if you would have advice on Insurance for a new car, which I think could be called the 4th transaction in the car buying process. Im getting a new car soon and coming from a rustbucket made in 1989 to a brand new car its making me more concerned about making the right decisions with insurance.
Nothing earth shattering g here. But oh my god so important! I've helped a lot of people purchase vehicles, both new and used and the biggest piece of advice I give is go home and sleep on it before you make a decision!
I'm surprised you didn't talk about being upsold on trims. If you don't need all of the gadgetry that will add $5-6K to a car, isn't it more prudent to haggle with the dealer to find a car to your specs than for them to say, "We only have the highest trim in stock?" (This actually happened to me when I was locating a new car for my grandmother, but I was insistent and the dealer did manage to locate a lower trim model without all the bells and whistles - you know, one with physical climate controls, and A KEY-).
Thanks John, 100% common sense procurement, which is so frequently held to ransom by marque bias and belief in the sales rep (and his/her backroom manager).
My advice is don’t tell anyone what you are thinking of buying or about to buy. You’re certain to cop the expert advice about how crap and everything that’s wrong with it. Also, don’t tell anyone how much you paid for it; they’ll know people who got it way cheaper. And don’t buy a car you won’t like or be happy with just because you’re pretty sure resale value is good and the front left shocks have a great reputation. Get what you want, work within your budget, be sensible in your decision and maintain it well.
I reckon the first mistake for car buyers is buying a combustion engine vehicle, unless there is nothing available in the format needed. Depreciation will be enormous
Was looking for my first car 5 years ago. Looking at hatchbacks. Typical Eastern European models of choice - old Golfs, A3's a Civic here & there. Then, a collegue recommended to look at a Cee'd. - Look at a what?? The rest was history. Bought a 2008 Cee'd then, now on my second year with a 2012 one and even dad got a new Hyundai i30 estate, after I vetoed him buying a third Megane in a row.
You do say to do research, and thanks for that John, but you forgot to include the words 'reliability' and 'resale value' in your advice for research. If most of your customers intend to sell before their purchase travels 60K kms, the Korean brands are great. Let's hope the current second hand market prices are still around when it is time to sell them 😊
I don't regret any new decisions I've made and while you dislike these cars I've enjoyed them all - Ford Terry diesel titanium - Brilliant family car, travelled all around Ausi with the kids, Wife meanwhile brought Discovery sport - OK car not loved by the family but a good car, and my favourite my FN mustang convertible - kids now grow'n love this car 45k in two years - daily driver and loving ❤ it ironically I could sell this right now for my purchase price - I'll never sell this car but I might buy a Tesla - just to piss u off and to offset the CO2 emissions from that dam V8 engine!
IF the dealer won't let you take the car home overnight don't buy it.Ive got a bad back and I need to drive a car for an hour or more to see if the seats will suit me
All excellent advice. I'm very bad at car buying. Thats why I buy 1 year old then keep for 9, so any over payment (which I inevitably make) amortizes out over a long period. And they get to shaft me only once a decade. I watch these type of videos like I watch porn - I know I'm never going to be as good at or as equipped for the task in hand as the person on screen, but its good to see how it should be done.
Many similar stories in the comments, but my 2 cents: Researched (everything you need to know is on the internet), rang and spoke to 3 dealerships before test driving (knew exactly what I wanted but let them go through the "sell" and nodded along). Asked about finance options (I was going to buy outright), asked about outright price, asked for a trade-in price on the old girl. Left saying "lots to think about". Rang other dealers to confirm the pricing was in the right ballpark. Went back 3 days later to "talk a bit more". Eventually the RRP was reduced by nearly $3k on a $34 000 "special deal" with first 5 years of servicing, tinting and foor mats thrown in. Note: offered $11 500 on the trade-in, eventualy they reluctantly bumped it to $12 500. I entertained them for a bit - sold it privately 2 weeks later to the first bloke who saw it for $23 800. Keep up the GREAT work John!!!
My wife is aware of what her limitations are and her car knowledge is very limited. When it's time for a new car she tells me what features she would like and I get a car with those features and a 5 star safety rating. Wifey having the final say on which car to buy would be like me having the final say on what hygiene products she is to use.
I recommend testing how much of a pain in the ass the cruise control system is - the Kia Cerato pool car was otherwise excellent (easily good enough to buy for myself as a runabout), but with diabolical cruise programming
"Doesn't fit in the skinny jeans that well, but fits comfortably into the hand" Sounds like something near and dear to me. You really must stop this suggestive language, its starting to turn me on ...
Often test driving for a new car is pointless… you are not testing the actual car unless you do it at pick up time and you determine that the deal is off if the car doesn’t drive as advertised.
There's only one critical mistake buying a new car in 2022 and that's - unless you absolutely have to buy a new vehicle for business purposes, or can write off the loss - buying an ICE vehicle. EVs will hit price parity by the following year, and beyond that ICE vehicle values will quickly diminish to zero, just as Nokia phones did when smart phones arrived.
I once asked a dealer if the car comes equipped with 3rd generation inertial dampeners. The idiot instantly blurted out "4th gen, latest gear!" Yeah, that's how full of it they are!
Honda is screwed in Australia. 5 years ago here there was like 15 Honda's running, today there is none zilch nadda. With that happening all over Australia it's a wonder HONDA is still a thing here.
Bought a new wildtrak and the dealership accidentally emailed me someone else's sales order, identical product, no trade ins, but the other dude was paying 11k more. Don't be a sucker and play the long game.........tried the "save thousands" 👎, poor experience
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I’ve watched your videos for a three years now. You’re like a member of the family. You have taught me a lot. I ended up buying a Mitsubishi triton glx because you had one. It’s the best car I’ve had and I’m very happy with it. Even got myself a few olights too which are good bits of gear. I’ve done a bit of research on you and you’re not some bloke on TH-cam. You have a lot of experience and quals behind you. I don’t think people know your background. Thanks for the videos. I always let the ads play in your videos hopefully to support you.
Don’t worry about the wife mate, mine sent me out about ten years ago to buy a Commodore wagon but I came home with a ‘71 Ford Galaxie coupe with a seven litre motor. She wasn’t happy but by Christ I was! Still have both of them so get what you want - it’s worth the pain.
Legend!
Yeah fuck yeah good on ya
Galaxie owner lives two doors away. I love hearing the warm up procedure for the weekly drive to purchase the Sunday rag!
Your a good neighbour, I fired the Galaxie up and my neighbour called the environmental protection agency.
11 don't buy the all new rezzle dazzle body, drive train, and power plant model until some other mug (or preferably a lot of other mugs) have found all the problems and resolutions for problems.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
Regards Tony
Hey John, my partner and I have been watching your videos for over 3 years now. We love your Aussie humour and the stylish production set that only Aussies can do :P. We have two young kids under 3's and two cars (a family friendly Forester and a 2016 M135i). Given the prices for second hand car, especially for the last few breeds of that little hatch, we are looking to find a more roomier but still a 'fun' car for me if it made good economic sense. Is it worthwhile buying a bigger car now - be it slightly used or brand new with all these supply issues in the next few months?
Regardless, thank you for a thoroughly entertaining channel.
I very happily used John's buying service last year. It was fantastic not having to "shop around"(too much). It was great not interacting with dealers. The price was almost too good to be true. Mind you, my Mazda tray doesn't ride like a Rolls nor perform like a Porsche. Caveat Emptor.
What do you mean Johns service? He just forwards your email address and phone number to some other company and takes a clip.
@@Daz912 Correct. I wouldn't have known about them without his promotion.
Advice I recently gave a friend who needed a new car in a hurry. First time car buyer too.
1. get 7 year finance with no early settlement fee from a respected credit union BEFORE you walk into the dealer. Know how much you can borrow. Why 7 years? If there is no early termination then there is no advantage in getting a time restriction on your loan. Get a long one, pay it off in 3 or 5 and if tragedy strikes, you lose your job whatever, you have a 2 year buffer and lower min repayments it's worth a small increase in interest rate and you don't need the insurance.
2. Don't make a decision on the showroom floor. Go home, work out exactly what you want, come back, give them a fair price between 5-10% off retail (in this market) and stick to it.
3. You don't need it. None of the extras are worth a cent unless you actually definitely, 100% are going to use them. So mats?
4. Don't fall for dealer demos.
She got 8% off. So you don't need to be a shark to make this stuff work for you.
Id go one better, i got my new car loan on a 10 year loan with no early payment penalty, however made the bogan choice to get the new Dmax in june, looking like a 9-12 month wait, but at least ill get the 2022 model update
Another tip is if you're buying a car for yourself by yourself, have somebody else test drive it too. A friend or relative. Not only does it allow you to bounce your thoughts off somebody else who's not trying to sell you the car, it also allows you to experience the car as a passenger.
Brilliant video John. I almost spat my dinner all over the computer screen laughing at "up here for thinking, down there for... recreation."
I don't know about Australia; but in United States finance companies usually cannot charge extra for paying early. Gap Insurance is for people who didn't put any money down; as a result depreciation gets way ahead of their payments, and the loan is termed upside down. If you need gap insurance you cannot afford the car
Early loan termination is a legal option on loans in Australia and is standard on Hire Purchase agreements which are the worst type of loan. Gap insurance is used to cover the gap between the insurable value of the car and the loan amount (used to be common for people buyingtheir first car at full finance (cars lose a significant amount of value as soon as they leave the car yard). This type of insurance is less nessasary as many insurers offer old for new covber for the first few years on new cars. Gap insurance is only important if the car gets written off.
The reality is that most people can't afford cars hence they have to borrow money to buy them.
Gap insurance is common for novated leases where early payout penalties are horrific.
Love the colourful descriptions of sales tactics.
Reminds me of a book that I bought about 30 years ago about buying cars in Oz. I know that it’s dated but I wonder how much of it is still relevant today. Like the tactic of letting you take the car of your (wet) dreams home for the weekend. Or sucking you into buying something that you clearly cannot afford but the easy credit of the in-house finance provider making it happen. Or you dump another $120k onto the mortgage to get that Sahara.
Off topic : I'm French and I follow your channel since quite a long time, and it's incredible how the picture of your country is changing all over the world with your government policy over Covid. By the way I really love your channel and it's interesting to see the evolution of the car market in other places. 👍
It is very depressing to see how much of a laughing stock we have become. I wouldn't let those dipshits in charge manage a supermarket.
Although I’m not a fan of the current federal government here in Australia, Australia’s Covid response was mostly handled by our state governments. Though in regards to our international reputation, I cannot understand why other countries take exception to our ability to minimise Covid deaths per capita better than almost any other country on the planet. We saved lives!! Why is that so bad ?!
@@AutoExpertJC Being a laughing stock isn't your fault, though I don't find any of it funny personally. Like always it's the fault of the psychopathic control freaks that people allow to be in charge. It's a problem everywhere, not just Oz but I'm now glad I never followed through with my plans to move there. I'm fortunate enough to be in a place that hasn't gone very far (yet) when it comes to stripping away even more freedoms. Even the county sheriff has been releasing statements that he won't be enforcing most of their arbitrary rules.
When I window shop cars, I always wear my rattiest clothes, I’ve never had any salesperson try to sell me anything. They will however very quickly and indignantly answer my questions. I then tell them I’m just happy to look, and they will happily walk away to another more plausible victim.
My shabbiest clother are also my normal clothes. So I know where you're coming from.
The value of appearing as a nothing is priceless.
First! We done come full circle, John. My induction to AutoExpert was your Genesis vid, which I showed the child bride to convince her on the purchase.
Of course you are entirely correct. When told “Hyundai “, she said ‘I’m not driving a f**kin korean hatchback. In a collision, they fold faster than Superman on wash day! Now, she is Araldite Arse on that leather drivers seat.
" ..they fold faster than Superman on wash day " - commentary GOLD !!!
Before I discovered this channel, it was bullshit o'clock every time I bought a new car. I dutifully stood on the X, pulled down my strides and bent over to receive my punishment, thinking I was getting a great deal every single time. But not next time Johnny boy. BTW, 6 wives? You're going senile - last week I'm sure it was only five! Seriously, my next new car will be a win for me and not the dealership. Thanks.
Yes, me too. I had it clocked at 5. My god, John, you are a swift mover! Or is it confabulation? Either way, you, Sir, are fab!
So John, is this similar to "The solar installers are only in the area until Friday!"😂
Followed your advice down to a T on last purchase "a posh Toyota" and they sold me my new car substantially cheaper than I though. What went down there and I still have my veggies! Thanks for the Olight push I now have Warrior Pro and Seeker 3 both insane knife and Boobie torch on the way so thanks again.
I knew exactly what car, what spec and what full retail was of the car I wanted (Prado Kakadu) when I walked into the first Toyota dealership, but the price and the $10k trade in they offered me was ludicrous. Second dealership was not much better. I got on the phone and called every dealership in 100km distance and asked to speak directly to the sales manager until I got the $10k discount I wanted and I sold my old car privately for $26k.
Thanks John for the tips, i will look into the wholesale selling path as an option i can never do private sell to much Gumtree tyre kickers , and also instead of knocking at ‘we buy cars’ or ‘we pay top dollar for cars’ ‘cash for you wheels’ on the main street outside Chermside shopping centre. Or the other route might be auction house such as Pickles but that might be risqué. I got sort idea of the ball park selling price using Redbook and estimated km ranges i deduct $100 per 1000km over Recommend trade in price i might add $200 or more depending on wear and age for added aftermarket accessories such as having the added benefit Aftermarket Android auto/Car-play stereo and Tow bar fitting which differentiates my car to the redbook car estimation. Trading cars at the dealer is highway robbery and they cared less for the aftermarket accessories thats my experience.
I always appreciate your advice. Too bad you’re not in Canada getting us good car deals! Still, your advice works on so many levels everywhere. Thanks John.
Thanks again for highlighting the need to put the brakes on when going to the showroom. I am wondering if it is possible to test drive by hooking up a caravan, then going for say 3/4 hour drive in our hilly city to test drive vehicles of interest? I spend 5 months a year spending money interstate towing a caravan (yes that thing John) and am looking for a 4 door diesel 4x4 ute to replace my aging Triton (which has run faultlessly), fingers x'd. I did note that you rang the death nell for the Mitsi/Nissi mix for the replacement 2022 Triton in your August report. Is it best to look for something now or will the discussed changes take place with the new model? I had seen the top 10 ute reviews from others over the past years and one road test did include towing a van something similar to mine. However, I would like to think that I could do this as well as the test driver as I am going to hand over my $'s and own something that I feel safe and comfortable to drive. Surely there would be several of us vanners (ha ha), perhaps tradies that continually tow a bigger trailer may be interested in your reply?
Hey John, couldn’t agree more with this. As a guy that is in the industry I rarely see newish cars with major problems, if anyone asks me I’ll tell them to get what ever they like the look of and for most people that’s what they’ll do anyway
Between this and the video on buying a hybrid, I’m starting to think John’s a psychic!
Psychics including my sister are frauds the Fatman is just one educated dude. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nar no psychic needed here dude, Just that John Boy reads the data properly, and lays it down straight, without bullshitting around the far paddock, next to shit creek.
@@michaelrussell6661 it’s more for the fact that these are very timely videos for me personally, as I am considering buying a hybrid next year! 😅 and here John is offering sage advice as always!
Loved the reference to staying on top, John. The voice of experience in multi-tasking.
Exactly - thanks for watching.
@@AutoExpertJC I'm wondering why you are not Prime Mincer, with your gift of the gab and verbal imagery. I suppose honesty disqualifies you.
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew exactly why I bought an i30 diesel in 2016 rather than a Mazda 3, based on the advice of where I was getting my car serviced at the time.
I hate being ambushed. To the extent that I won't buy anything that I am being ambushed about. Even if it was exactly the right item at the right price. I just leave.
Excellent advice.
I am exactly the same, sometimes the ego gets in the way and when someone pisses me off I would rather go pay more elsewhere.
Absolutely right about test drives.
If I was a car salesman, I would hate your guts. Cause you showed everyone my game, and how I do it. Damn you John!
But I am a soon to be car buyer, and you just gave me another briefing on those car dealer sharks, and their latest beneath the
surface predation. I love you more.
I must be poor...I don't need finance (I'll be paying cash) and I'm keeping my current vehicle (because it's good, collectable and useful). What leverage do I have at the salesman's desk?
Great timing with this video John! We are in the throws of researching the 'next' vehicle and are watching the EV and hydrogen vehicle developments with great interest. You video on Hybrids vs Plug-in hybrids vs ICEs was our first experience of the mirror being put up to our false authorities on how we viewed them as a natural stepping stone to EVs. The list of don'ts is written down and will take pride of place in our research for the new vehicle. Thanks as always for keeping us informed.
Great clip John. Good question. What’s better Do you have finance arranged like through a bank loan or go through someone else and have finance arranged for us
Thanks as I always enjoy your channel
"Premature contractulation" sounds like some kind of bowel malfunction.
In a sense, that's exactly what it is.
Agree with your point about the mistake of only buying the same brand. This is pretty common amongst the medical doctors in the US who only buy Mercedes-Benz and nothing else. Just because MB built reliable solid cars back in the 80s and 90s doesn’t mean that their cars are still reliable today in the 2020s.
Seems your consumer laws need an upgrade in Australia. Ist new car purchase in NZ went like this.
2015 Decided to buy new car. Had a good look around decided on make and model, waited until 2 days from end of month, made dealer ( salesperson) cash offer.
Dealer said not enough, I revised my offer. Ok you win, what colour? Even before payment I was asked if I wanted to proceed with deal, no deposit was requested, then I was reminded of standard 24 hour cool down period if I changed my mind. Easy, no fish hooks. Though at present new cars are in short supply so the advantage is with the car dealers.
had a wonderful Mitsi Lancer VX and got 'Liberarceed' at 60km/h by that very same cockhead driving a '88 Commodore shitbox that JC mentioned. Lancer was written off. 1st insurance assessment for my car = $9.5K. Did some homework and the 2.4L engine/trans that was in immaculate condition was worth $5K alone. " Try again.. " I said. Ended up getting $14K. You can even negotiate with insurance companies.
That last part is soo true, it's called "The Dunning -Krugereffect". Not knowing that you do not know anything.
Bloody hell! When I bought my two new cars in 1973 and 1976 (always bought 3 to five yo and kept them for 3 or 4 years since) it was an almost civilised and genteel process. Each salesman was OK with me shopping around to the other dealers here in Adelaide seeking the best change over price (when I didn’t manage to sell the old car privately for a better price). We did buy a new car in 2017, but not here in Australia.
Sorry John, I don’t live in Australia so I can’t help with cars but will just sit back and listen. Priceless response to a viewers long Email ‘move over War and Peace’ . Good laugh!….
In the process of getting the new dmax, but cos i waited til june to put down a deposit, supply issues mean i get the 2022 model update instead, wife is very happy for heated seats
I didn't know that gap insurance was still a thing for new cars. Any half decent comprehensive policy usually has a new-for-old replacement option (if not a standard feature) that'll cover the insured for at least a couple of years from new. Some will offer it for as long as 4 years from new.
Either way, 100% agree that insurance is something that new car buyers should take seriously.
Gap insurance is usually insisted on by the finance company and there to protect them not the buyer. Tip is to not buy hire purchase.
Used car prices are simply ridiculous, we have been offered just 15% less as a trade in than we paid for my wife’s car new - TWO YEARS AGO. usually 2 years in is when you start to get close to parity on the finance outstanding, we currently have 30% equity on it!
If you are in a position to trade down to a lesser car (for whatever reason) DO IT NOW, you’ll be in a good position for having done it.
I think if you go private you're got half a chance of getting what you paid right now. Corollas went from $22k to $27k for example. So a nice 2nd hand one is still not unreasonable at $22k
Talking of Tiffany reminds me of the CGP Grey deep dive.
As always enjoy your show
Thanks
I took my trade in 2010 Nissan Navara to a major Toyota dealer for a quote on a new hybrid. The straight faced sales person offered me $15,000 if I signed now for a car to be possibly delivered in 6 to 10 months. This was a much better offer than I had earlier from a Hyundai dealer. As an after thought he said that of course at this time my trade would have to be re-appraised again remembering that contract had been signed & deposit paid already. I must have had STUPID stamped on my forehead if I was going to accept this deal. Why didn't he offer me $50,000 as the offer didn't mean diddly squat?
I do not have a signifiant female other but I find it useful to invent one, a dragon one at that, who couldn't be here today, but who would absolutely kill me if I agreed to anything without first passing it by her.
Picking up a new Mazda 2 today. In the words of John Cadogan "yeeeeeeeeeehesssss"
I encountered a couple of dealerships that refused to provide me with a quotation for an on-going promotion.
Used car prices have gone bananas a friend recently sold their car to a dealer who approached via the advertisement in gumtree for only $1000 below what they were asking they had been willing to accept $2500 below the final price. There appears to be desperation and fear in second hand dealer land that they just don’t have enough second hand stock to turnover to generate the commissions needed to buy a steady stream of leather jackets. A most pleasurable scenario as secondhand slimers are even a lower subspecies than new car dealers.
Great advice as usual John! Thanks!
Hi John. I was wondering if you would have advice on Insurance for a new car, which I think could be called the 4th transaction in the car buying process. Im getting a new car soon and coming from a rustbucket made in 1989 to a brand new car its making me more concerned about making the right decisions with insurance.
Mr Cadogan, have you done a video on Mahindra?? What are your thoughts on them??
Nothing earth shattering g here. But oh my god so important! I've helped a lot of people purchase vehicles, both new and used and the biggest piece of advice I give is go home and sleep on it before you make a decision!
Nice PSA John, thank you.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about being upsold on trims. If you don't need all of the gadgetry that will add $5-6K to a car, isn't it more prudent to haggle with the dealer to find a car to your specs than for them to say, "We only have the highest trim in stock?" (This actually happened to me when I was locating a new car for my grandmother, but I was insistent and the dealer did manage to locate a lower trim model without all the bells and whistles - you know, one with physical climate controls, and A KEY-).
Thanks John, 100% common sense procurement, which is so frequently held to ransom by marque bias and belief in the sales rep (and his/her backroom manager).
Laughed out loud to the upgrade the wife joke!!!
My advice is don’t tell anyone what you are thinking of buying or about to buy. You’re certain to cop the expert advice about how crap and everything that’s wrong with it. Also, don’t tell anyone how much you paid for it; they’ll know people who got it way cheaper. And don’t buy a car you won’t like or be happy with just because you’re pretty sure resale value is good and the front left shocks have a great reputation. Get what you want, work within your budget, be sensible in your decision and maintain it well.
You’re getting good at this, so I decided to Subscribe. 👍
Trading in and upgrading to a new wife? Now THAT"S expensive!!!
Skip the legalities and the attorney's fees. Just find a women you can't get along with and buy her a house.
I cant imagine going to a dealer without knowing already what i want. Takes me month to research everytimes
Can I buy the Swivel since I live in the USA?
I reckon the first mistake for car buyers is buying a combustion engine vehicle, unless there is nothing available in the format needed.
Depreciation will be enormous
God damn I need that semi-articulated carrot waxer!!!
The biggest Crooks I have ever dealt with are the Ambush Predators at Noble Toyota. Very bad behaviour and conduct.
Harsh.
They don't sound very noble. Allegedly.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. not noble at all. Should be called " Shocking Toyota "
Anglo Saxon?
The Fortuna I was looking at has a lead time of 10-12 months, no discounts on the horizon either
Was looking for my first car 5 years ago. Looking at hatchbacks. Typical Eastern European models of choice - old Golfs, A3's a Civic here & there.
Then, a collegue recommended to look at a Cee'd.
- Look at a what??
The rest was history.
Bought a 2008 Cee'd then, now on my second year with a 2012 one and even dad got a new Hyundai i30 estate, after I vetoed him buying a third Megane in a row.
You do say to do research, and thanks for that John, but you forgot to include the words 'reliability' and 'resale value' in your advice for research.
If most of your customers intend to sell before their purchase travels 60K kms, the Korean brands are great. Let's hope the current second hand market prices are still around when it is time to sell them 😊
Hi John, it's not just a Chip shortage to worry about .Covidstan because of power interruptions has had to cease aluminium production.
Why only one chip? What is the number of said chip? I'm certain there'd be another capitalist seeking to make a replacement for cheap at volume.
The surgery isn't painful.
It's the recovery that's a problem.
HELP
The problem is "Tiffany", what if the other half isn't called or known by Tiffany and REFUSES to change their name?
John, it’s called “V” power!
I don't regret any new decisions I've made and while you dislike these cars I've enjoyed them all - Ford Terry diesel titanium - Brilliant family car, travelled all around Ausi with the kids, Wife meanwhile brought Discovery sport - OK car not loved by the family but a good car, and my favourite my FN mustang convertible - kids now grow'n love this car 45k in two years - daily driver and loving ❤ it ironically I could sell this right now for my purchase price - I'll never sell this car but I might buy a Tesla - just to piss u off and to offset the CO2 emissions from that dam V8 engine!
IF the dealer won't let you take the car home overnight don't buy it.Ive got a bad back and I need to drive a car for an hour or more to see if the seats will suit me
Buying a car in 2022 is the biggest mistake I can think of .you be upside down in that for the whole time you own it
Great info once again.Thanks.
The big question is John and as it goes in the song, Do you have “Breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
All excellent advice.
I'm very bad at car buying. Thats why I buy 1 year old then keep for 9, so any over payment (which I inevitably make) amortizes out over a long period.
And they get to shaft me only once a decade.
I watch these type of videos like I watch porn - I know I'm never going to be as good at or as equipped for the task in hand as the person on screen, but its good to see how it should be done.
Many similar stories in the comments, but my 2 cents: Researched (everything you need to know is on the internet), rang and spoke to 3 dealerships before test driving (knew exactly what I wanted but let them go through the "sell" and nodded along). Asked about finance options (I was going to buy outright), asked about outright price, asked for a trade-in price on the old girl. Left saying "lots to think about". Rang other dealers to confirm the pricing was in the right ballpark. Went back 3 days later to "talk a bit more". Eventually the RRP was reduced by nearly $3k on a $34 000 "special deal" with first 5 years of servicing, tinting and foor mats thrown in. Note: offered $11 500 on the trade-in, eventualy they reluctantly bumped it to $12 500. I entertained them for a bit - sold it privately 2 weeks later to the first bloke who saw it for $23 800. Keep up the GREAT work John!!!
What vehicle was this on?
@@SinanTrance Hyundai i30 N-line (DCT)
Test drives do let you get a feel for how comfortable a car is. It's very important for something a person will spend many hours using.
Tell that to Lexus dealers who insist on a signature on a purchase order before a test drive
@@theairstig9164 "Okay, I'm headed for the BMW dealer."
A great help, thanks.
"and then upgrade to a new wife, with better features"
Well, the 6 ex wives bit makes way more sense now. 😂
Apparently there is a magnesium shortage worldwide. This will make it hard for car manufacturers to continue to make cars.
Which bits are made of magnesium?
If you ever need to finance a car, you can not afford, said car.
24:05 That is how we do it in my country
Is it rooted or cattle trucked?
Buying an expensive ICE Car is the number 1 mistake most people can make.
Keeping up the theme "Kamusta, Dood".
My wife is aware of what her limitations are and her car knowledge is very limited. When it's time for a new car she tells me what features she would like and I get a car with those features and a 5 star safety rating. Wifey having the final say on which car to buy would be like me having the final say on what hygiene products she is to use.
“…ultimately upgrade-to a new wife..” 😂
I LOVE MING MOLE!!
DON'T buy the subaru, private importer, NOT a factory backed operation
I recommend testing how much of a pain in the ass the cruise control system is - the Kia Cerato pool car was otherwise excellent (easily good enough to buy for myself as a runabout), but with diabolical cruise programming
"Doesn't fit in the skinny jeans that well, but fits comfortably into the hand" Sounds like something near and dear to me. You really must stop this suggestive language, its starting to turn me on ...
Often test driving for a new car is pointless… you are not testing the actual car unless you do it at pick up time and you determine that the deal is off if the car doesn’t drive as advertised.
There's only one critical mistake buying a new car in 2022 and that's - unless you absolutely have to buy a new vehicle for business purposes, or can write off the loss - buying an ICE vehicle. EVs will hit price parity by the following year, and beyond that ICE vehicle values will quickly diminish to zero, just as Nokia phones did when smart phones arrived.
Zombie apocalypse and WW3 not withstanding
Another good one John 👍
Thanks Graham - are you back to internal combustion yet?
Yep ICE again. Do like the look off Ionic 5 though.👍
Love the t-shirt
I once asked a dealer if the car comes equipped with 3rd generation inertial dampeners. The idiot instantly blurted out "4th gen, latest gear!"
Yeah, that's how full of it they are!
Yeah - but in fairness these ones were dilithium.
Honda is screwed in Australia. 5 years ago here there was like 15 Honda's running, today there is none zilch nadda. With that happening all over Australia it's a wonder HONDA is still a thing here.
Ahh Mission Impossible Talk the SO out of getting a x-trail
Bought a new wildtrak and the dealership accidentally emailed me someone else's sales order, identical product, no trade ins, but the other dude was paying 11k more. Don't be a sucker and play the long game.........tried the "save thousands" 👎, poor experience
Maybe dude had bad credit? Idk
I was almost asleep when I heard you say "nuclear"