Of course that would take a little bit of coercion from the old Looney tunes crew right because they're the ones that went on to make that kind of series. Wb isn't Disney just Discovery
@@sky0kast0 The Jetsons was produced by Hanna -Barbera, not Warner and are not part of the Looney Toons universe/family. And Disney wouldn't need to work HB or whoever owns the rights today to make the Autopia cars sound like the Jetsons' cars. They could get away with coming up with a sound that're reminiscent of what we heard on the Jetsons even if it's not exactly the same. Who knows, that particular sound effect might even be in public domain right now with no one owning the rights to it.
I too also thought of a Jetson’s like sound coming from the electric cars. Newer electric cars (in the USA) are already required to have an artificial sound coming from them so pedestrians can tell they’re nearby. It’s not very loud, but it’s there. I believe Ford offers to add an V8 engine noise for their F150 Lightening trucks.
I totally understand the point you were making about the ambiance of the engine noises but my boyfriend is Deaf and he and I were giggling the whole time like “can you imagine riding in silence? Can you?!” 😂 Autopia is coincidentally our favorite ride together ❤
I love this attraction at Disneyland but even being in the vicinity is tough sometimes, it concentrates in the air around the whole area and is very unpleasant.
@@Supernerdyhumansame goes for anybody living within a mile of a freeway or anybody walking/biking along any stroad. Please realize it’s not just Tomorrowland with air and noise pollution that’s not good for us
@@Gigaamped This is why it's important to electrify Autopia. Kids get their first opportunity to drive a car there, so make it electric and they will be more likely to buy electric when they are old enough to drive a real car. We are only about 12 years from the end of all internal combustion manufacturing. After 2035, no new gas engines will be made anywhere in the world.
@@sunpwrd Gas engines will always exist and EVs will be against the law. When I take over Disney, everything will be done by asking "What would Walt do?" again like it was after his death and if that means keeping Tomorrowland stuck in the 1960s, so be it.
There is no reason why making electric cars wouldn't have sound. All electric vehicles I see have sound added for safety- they could easily replicate the sounds of the old gasoline engines without the fumes!
Currently, the best way to electrify Autopia is to electrify the guide rail. And with that, I’m having visions of Rocket Rods 2.0. Whatever they do, I hope they keep the sound.
The problems with electrifying the rail (other than most of it being concrete) is the unreliable contacts and the constant wear from steering. It is possible they could do it just for the station and on the top of the rail with some form of smart contact point though. They would probably still have to stop operation on one or multiple tracks at a time to allow for proper charging though.
Thunder Alley at Six Flags Great Escape was converted to electric, using the center guiderail as the source of power for the cars. They have working radios that play classic 50's songs. Disney could play classic Disney songs if they wanted. Why would you want to pipe in sounds of gas powered cars when that's the past, not the future of transportation? Those gas powered cars are so loud and smelly. This needs to happen.
Yes, I agree retro the land, bring back the escalators, to space mountain and the (refurbished) people mover, relocate astro orbiter to its original location. Relocate Star tours to Galaxy’s edge and Come up with a new inner space ride. Launch bay retro it as well, if possible?
I would love to see Star Tours placed backstage between ToonTown and Galaxy's Edge. Then, guests can board Star Tours from Uncle Scrooge's Rocket Launch Bay and step out into Galaxy's Edge! 😊
Yeah, taking away that rattling, squealing, headache-inducing pit of noise and gas fumes would render the attraction completely non-immersive, at least with how the track is today and has been for the past 68 years. Their idea for an "electric" change reminds me more of them trying to do a 'TRON Superspeed Tunnel' type of overlay on the PeopleMover back in the day. They would have to enclose the Autopia track space to help the guest envision they are having more fun than they actually are.
As far as the “sound” of the engines, why can’t they create a sound of a “Futuristic” engine and have it come out of each vehicle via a speaker? Tesla does it. Toyota does it. Hello!!!! It’s Disney! The most creative company in the world. Or, at least, it use to be.
Choosing a car sound would definitely be a new way for Disney to sell an extra souvenir. Imagine the Autopia drivers licenses having an NFC chip with your chosen engine sound that you scan on the car. I would definitely buy one.
I imagine some of the battery/charging tech from Rise/Runaway Railway/Remy's other trackless ride vehicles would need to be involved. They may even be able to ditch some of the barriers and have a predetermined vehicle path. But proper alignment with charging pads would be necessary no matter what. I for one have a difficult time with the sounds & smells of current Autopia, so I welcome a change.
I don't think they don't care I think it's more that trying to fix/add anything in Tomorrowland is just way more money/time/effort than it's probably worth at this time. I guarantee you there's some imagineer who so desperately wants to give Tomorrowland the makeover it deserves but is just constantly fighting with the budget. Let's just hope we get some Tomorrowland news at D23 this year.
I think the risk of someone getting out of their car and touching the rail would be too risky for them to attempt it. My guess is they'll use their trackless ride vehicle tech.
My home park (Canada's Wonderland) uses an electric rail for its antique car ride. I see no reason why Disney couldn't do the same, especially in California where rain isn't very common.
Thanks for the update! You are assuming that the electric vehicles will be silent. They most definitely will make some kind of "futuristic" sound. Even the street EVs today are mandated to make noise since the early ones were "dangerously too quiet".
I would love to see Autopia moved to the People Mover track. It would give perpetual motion to Tomorrowland and you can update and upgrade Tomorrowland as well as a Fantasyland expansion. It could possibly add 3-4 new attractions!!
Yeah I'm pretty sure they'll add some type of sound to the cars. My car has artificial vehicle noise composed by Hans Zimmer pumped through speakers when I'm accelerating so I'm sure they'll have something going on. Mix that in with a location based audio soundtrack depending on where you are on the track would be cool
My guess for a possible solution is a removable battery system quite like the drone planes from the company Zipline. Since it's for pretty much an electric go kart the batteries might be too heavy though. Charging plates with contacts on top of the guide rails through the parts where you can't steer might be enough to keep them alive for the day. (They can't just electrify the whole guide rail because that's both hazardous for the amount of vehicles and they would just be creating an entirely new and worse ride because you wouldn't be able to steer at all.)
When Autopia was built for opening day, freeways were the future. The 5 wasn"t even done being built. I'd like to see an update. Electric cars, more stuff to see like a river , waterfall. Bridges, tunnels. Characters. It doesn't need to be a story or IP. And then fix and bring back People Mover and I"ll be happy.
I feel like the issue holding up many potential changes in Tomorrowland is that they'd have to actually knock down buildings first - and that's something they're either not ready, or not able, to do. However, that shouldn't be an issue with Autopia - as long as they've decided how to do it (and others have posted good ideas below), upgrading the vehicles to electric seems like a doable thing. However, I agree that the engine noise is an essential part of the ambience - maybe stick baseball cards in the spokes?
Thank you David for being realistic about this- you know Disney well - ( as well as love Disneyland) - Love your evaluations! Always feel like we are sitting around a table coffee in hand chatting. We love ya!❤ and I’d miss the sound but not the fumes! LOL - kind of like how much I miss the sound of the Matterhorn when its down
I know that a lot of people seem to think that Autopia is a waste of space, but I agree with David that Autopia at Disneyland is a great attraction--if only it wasn't so loud and stinky! 😢 I used to work as a Disneyland retail cast member, and I hated working at the Autopia Winner's Circle, because the incessant noise from Autopia was maddening. I don't care how nostalgic the shrieking, grating sound of the gasoline engines may be--it is a serious physical and mental health hazard. As far as a potential "New Tomorrowland" is concerned, everyone keeps forgetting about Disneyland Forward. There is no conceivable way that Disney would finalize plans--let alone announce them--until the City of Anaheim has acquiesced to Disney's plans for the Eastern Gateway Project. Why would Disney remodel Tomorrowland if they will have to remodel again the southeastern quadrant of Disneyland in a decade?
@@davidculver5446 Not sure what your comment has to do with my comment; I wasn't advocating for the removal or replacement of Autopia--just the conversion from gas to electric in some capacity. Plus, as a former Disneyland Cast Member, I am very much aware of how the monorail track, the peoplemover track, Autopia, and the submarine lagoon are intricately intertwined.
The Avatar Pandora graphic came out at the same time. It doesn’t say where it might be, but it’s assumed to be in Tomorrowland although Disneyland Forward in a new undeveloped area like Simba parking lot makes more sense.
It's like when casinos switched slots to no coins. You can add in some sound effects to replicate it. It would feel weird for a few visits and then we'd get used to it.
I think there is more to the Autopia update, as they mentioned it in yesterday's Disney Parks Blog titled "4 Ways Disneyland Continues on the Road to Sustainability, Plus More to Come" too. I would love to see a complete refresh of both DL & WDW Tomorrowland.
Oh you mean retired golf carts with lead batteries. And of course further construction for electric charging. It may also require a larger fleet of cars to accomodate for charging. Bottom line increased daily costs for the park and grid management.
Start Wars music IS featured in STAR WARS: Galaxy’s Edge … but ONLY in appropriate settings. It exists in the rides, dining and entertainment areas, but isn’t featured anywhere that music isn’t normally played..
10:09 I have a similar video of my kid and while it would suck if the engine sounds were gone, it's called TOMORROWland for a reason. There will still be memories, just new ones. ❤❤❤
Not to mention all the fumes have to be so bad for the CMs. I get a headache every time I go on Autopia. There won't be silence. Disney Imagineers know what they are doing. Usually.
Some parts of Redwood Creek could be taken,but wouldn't want the view coming out of Grand Californian, should be altered. It was amazing to walk out of Grand Californian, into park, on my first visit to Disneyland. Hope to come back again, last time my Pirates of the Caribbean, was refurbishment . I want to come back when refurbishment of the current attractions is done. Keep up the great vlogs, I enjoy them so much!
Great thoughts David. I feel if they would do anything, it would have to be an inductive charging system in the pavement where it charges the cars as they go and they could be waiting on that to mature more.
I totally agree with you; they wouldn't change Autopia unless it's part of a larger project to update Tomorrowland. But I don't understand why you think they'd make individual electric cars with battery packs and need charging stations. I just assumed it's the track that would be electrified, not the cars. Like slot cars. That would be some exciting use of technology too, making a 'Smart' track. There's endless possibilities in that solution.
If they use the Rise battery tech, theyd need to put in a roof to cover the chargers from the elements. Which means either a new queue that covers it, or taking over the innoventions building (and adding a tunnel or bridge to cross the foot path)
I’m with you on the sounds of Autopia and keeping it. The gas from the vehicles when you stand in line a while does get a bit overwhelming and I’ve felt sick from it. But I love Autopia.. my sons drove them and now my grandson loves them. I’ll take electric.. with some noise lol. Thanks for update.
I love the smell. It is my favorite part of the ride. That said, I wouldn't mind the noise reduction from going electric. And as others have said it probably isn't healthy for the cast members that are subjected to it daily.
Autopia could be really cool if they went all in on it. It's in Tomorrowland so what does that look like? Well electric cars, maybe even an option to self drive. Add show buildings so you have a multi path destination? With a bit of effort they could make this attraction crazy awesome.
Ok you are so. right. about Tomorrowland in general.....nothing will happen (to ANY attraction) until they know what is happening in the next 10-15 years. ☑️
If they replace and keep gas sound would it smell different? And but who would know? so Disney makes Tomorrow Land 2 the movie flashback old cast to save money with new cast and set movie in future where doorway is autopia and not small world … “the earth is endangered by Hailey’s Comet and you now have a space mountain story!”
14:04 It was announced at the 2022 D23 expo that Bruno Campos would revive his role as Prince Naveen in the new ride. So I think it’s a safe bet that he’ll still be on. Hopefully they pleasantly surprise us with Dr Facilier too…
Battery-operated will never happen due to its short range and the amount of recharging time required. Electrified track will eliminate the free driving and will be dangerous.
Autopia does not need an upgrade. It needs to be replaced with another attraction. All that space could be put to better use. Want to bring more guests to tomorrow land? Tron!!
What sits below the autopia...the submarine ride...tear up autopia so goes the submarine ride. Disneyland uses the large water rides to help manage runoff water...very important this year.
I think they got discovery land right in Paris. its very brass and cogs, steampunk, jules verne type vibes. It'll never go out of date as its not trying to be the real future. And getting fired out of a cannon on space mountain is pretty cool!
The sound can be recorded and played on a loop along with other more modern sounds (not just like a jackhammer) 😆 I think they can definitely put in a soundboard on the vehicles.
Massive blue sky here, channeling my inner Disney spokesperson. For Autopia, can they lay inductive chargers on the current track then overlay new pavement over the top of those, raising the level of the track by a foot or 2. They then introduce electric vehicles that can charge continuously wirelessly that would be lighter with a smaller battery pack and no need to park to charge? Expensive I know but maybe less expensive than dozens of vehicles with large batteries that need to be parked to plug in and charge up.
I hope they can find someway to use induction to power the ride vehicles. Several years ago a freeway in California installed a small test section to use induction to power electric vehicles. I hope that technology has progressed enough to make this happen. Then no need to swap out batteries or charging stations.
It's about time! Let's be honest, the sound of lawnmower motors and the smell of unburnt gas and oil certainly doesn't scream "Tomorrowland". It only makes sense. Current Autopia is a thing of the past.
Really delighted that Bayou Adventure is getting its own story. Princess and the Frog wasn't a great film and I was devastated that they were ruining my favourite mountain. This gives me a bit more positivity about the outcome of this ride.
Hello David! David here from Sebring Florida and I have been a fan of yours for many years almost from the beginning. And a fan of Disneyland for over fifty years. It seems like the best partner would be Honda. I like your idea of the radio. If could be like the the history of electric cars. With a safety talk at the beginning. Then do a update on the rest of Tomorrowland later. Any thoughts? Thanks and have a magical day! 😀
I would love to see them give the cars a retro-futurism style and look to the signage along with going electric to give it that space race sort of feel.
Let's be realistic. Hybrid is the way to go. Autopia runs on recycled fuel already. Hybrids can get almost infinity miles to the gallon, and the batteries would be very small and auto recharge. It's a no brainer! And, yes, I truly love the Autopia cars sounding like 1950's lawn mowers!
Thats a good point about the Autopia noise it does give the ride some sorta life but how about a hover noise kinda like the noise what Tesla’s make? I think that’s kinda a 60s futuristic feel and it won’t make it completely silent. With Tomorrowland as whole why not make it a half update kinda similar to Magic Kingdoms Fantasyland because I think theres some things that should change like i think the Astro orbiter should move because its kinda in the way like why not move it above ground in the same spot or something?
The problem with making Autopia electric is the always-on aspect of a theme park ride. They can't just park and charge the cars for 20 minutes throughout the day. Ridership would drop and guest experience would drop. Every car needs to be operational all the time, therefore the number of charging stations they install would be the limiting factor in rides-per-hour. So, if they do go full-electric, then they're either going to need a swappable battery system, or they're going to need some sort of wireless charging system in the roadway itself. But, both of those are extremely expensive solutions that require new infrastructure. But, the third option is to convert the existing cars to hybrid-electric, and I think this is the most practical plan. Hybrid golf carts already exist and don't require any extra infrastructure or track modifications. The only modifications needed are to the cars, and the cars can be modified one at a time until they're all done which would have almost no impact to the guest experience. So, in my mind, the hybrid-electric is the most likely plan (if there is any plan at all.)
They can make a 5 minute stop at a charging station a part of the attraction lmao stopping to charge partially through a roadtrip is part of the experience of driving an ev
I’ve been wondering why they hadn’t switched to electric cars for the past several years. It only makes sense for a Tomorrowland attraction. Plus it’s so much better for the health of the cast members.
Not just electric, the cars should also be "self driving" allowing the kids to drive with no guide rails but not allowing them to crash or fail like they did when the attraction opened. Honda would be an excellent partner for any sort of upgrades to the attraction, if there was any will to update it. I am skeptical.
I agree, the sound is a big deal but I think they can make it sound like a gas engine still just play the effects over a speaker like Radiator Springs Racers. Hopefully 😎
here is an idea.....saw this one on FB....if they are going to go all electric,and disney seems to have a penchant for putting "IPs" into every attraction, why not a re-theme for autopia.....to sugar rush? put some wraps on the cars,and vannelope and wreck it ralph in the queue,and update the attraction to something kids would get...
Charging can be done from the pavement but either retrofitting or manufacturing new cars will take time. I have a hybrid so I am used to the silence. They could pipe in some sounds maybe. New story means new movie, maybe?
I asked the cast member a year ago why they didn’t go electric, and they said that in the rain they don’t work so because gas works better they haven’t done it, so we will see
@@derradune6722Oh, come on. Tell me that you’re not aware of how all the electric vehicles in the world suddenly stop working when it rains. It’s obvious that the front line cast member had the inside scoop on how Disney technology works.
@@WindowtotheMagic well maybe electric vehicles have come a long way since they tried it and I don’t know if you’ve noticed… the engines are more exposed on autopia cars than electric vehicles, but I’m just saying what they said… if they go electric great
I could see it going hybrid. Honda is making a lot of new electric vehicles with the goal of making zero emission vehicles by 2040. It would be cool if Autopia became a testing for the technology, I doubt that would happen, I can see them being hybrid before going completely electric.
Yup. All major manufacturers are moving away from all electric vehicles. They are not viable under present technology. For now the future is hybrid. Hydrogen engines are coming out now, as well. The exhaust of a hydrogen engine is water. Now That's green!
A compact Litium Iron Phosphate (cheap and safe) battery around 5kwh in capacity along with wireless charging along the track and at the loading station would be the way to go. The quieter motors would be so much better, looking forward to it. My kids wonder why they haven't updated them yet and have joked that thise will probably be the only gas burning cars they ever drive.
Imagine Autopia without the sounds? They currently sound like out-of-tune lawn mowers. Some artificial noise coming from the cars would be much better. How about imagine Autopia without the nasty fumes? It would certainly be healthier for the CMs.
Hong Kong Disneyland had electric vehicles with engine sounds provided to each car. The electric vehicles for Disneyland will allow for a cleaner experience as well as a new area to be built next to it, Fantasyland side, with no noise intrusion
I'm not a local/ regular, just a vacay tourist but I do not like Tomorrowland and have not stepped foot in it my last 5 visits to not waste my limited visiting time.
They should remove the track and use their trackless ride technology. A computer can easily monitor the driving and guide the vehicle back into the lane boundaries when necessary.
It wouldn’t be silent, they could easily pipe those exact same sounds into an in car speaker and or speakers in and around the attraction so while the cars technically be silent, it would sound exactly the same. my hybrid car has a sport mode has a recorded sound that does change with the amount of acceleration and it sounds natural
Heres the reason why I think Autopia will never go electric: Its easier and quicker to refill a go-kart than it is to wait for one to charge for a good few hours. Unless they add charging stations/those electric floors to charge them.
I don't think Disney has any large plans for Tomorrowland just yet because Autopia, Finding Nemo and Space Mountain are always busy. If those rides were dying and had few guests in line, then I think they would have an incentive to update the entire land. It makes perfect sense to update Autopia with electric vehicles. Honda would be my first guest since they are the current sponsor of the ride, but I'm sure Toyota would also love to be the sponsor.
I would be all for that. It will be interesting how they accomplish it though. I remember rumors from several years ago that Disney might move the electric version from Hong Kong to Disneyland but there are probably reasons it hasn't happened. I would like for Autopia to stick around in some form along with the submarines. I bet some version of new Tomorrowland will come in the near future but not until Haunted Mansion and Tiana's are done.
The future is charging pads - like you use for your phone, or even Disney's own run-a-way railroad. Or even picking up power safely from the guide rail. It could be done and would be cheaper to operate than those stinking go- cart engines.
Read this morning and first thoughts are tech the same as some others with an electric contact type track (down the center of the tracks), possibly. Also, I think the People Mover would have done this long ago when you had considered the possibility of a return a year or more ago. That’s a very long shot of course, unfortunately :/ Sounds wouldn’t be an issue these days to somewhat replace the old in a relatively decent manner but without breathing all the stuff that makes many choke (my family). I’d be riding it a lot if the change were made.
Why make the cars battery powered at all? you have the wheel guide in the middle just make it rail in ground like a monorail/train. cheaper and more effective than trying to make it self powered
My home park (Canada's Wonderland) uses an electric rail for its antique car ride. The vehicles are continuously powered by the rail as they move along the track. The ride closes due to rain, but being in California, I see no reason why Disneyland couldn't do the same for Autopia. And the cars are still quite noisy.
Electric cars.... I vote for the sound the Jetson's vehicles make. Very nostalgic
😂😅 Outstanding !!
Of course that would take a little bit of coercion from the old Looney tunes crew right because they're the ones that went on to make that kind of series. Wb isn't Disney just Discovery
@@sky0kast0 The Jetsons was produced by Hanna -Barbera, not Warner and are not part of the Looney Toons universe/family. And Disney wouldn't need to work HB or whoever owns the rights today to make the Autopia cars sound like the Jetsons' cars. They could get away with coming up with a sound that're reminiscent of what we heard on the Jetsons even if it's not exactly the same. Who knows, that particular sound effect might even be in public domain right now with no one owning the rights to it.
I too also thought of a Jetson’s like sound coming from the electric cars. Newer electric cars (in the USA) are already required to have an artificial sound coming from them so pedestrians can tell they’re nearby. It’s not very loud, but it’s there. I believe Ford offers to add an V8 engine noise for their F150 Lightening trucks.
Yes! It would be fun if they had a plethora of different sounds!
I totally understand the point you were making about the ambiance of the engine noises but my boyfriend is Deaf and he and I were giggling the whole time like “can you imagine riding in silence? Can you?!” 😂 Autopia is coincidentally our favorite ride together ❤
I get sick after riding one time from the fumes. I can’t imagine the long term impact on the workers
I mean we in California inhale it everyday
I love this attraction at Disneyland but even being in the vicinity is tough sometimes, it concentrates in the air around the whole area and is very unpleasant.
@@Supernerdyhumansame goes for anybody living within a mile of a freeway or anybody walking/biking along any stroad. Please realize it’s not just Tomorrowland with air and noise pollution that’s not good for us
@@Gigaamped This is why it's important to electrify Autopia. Kids get their first opportunity to drive a car there, so make it electric and they will be more likely to buy electric when they are old enough to drive a real car. We are only about 12 years from the end of all internal combustion manufacturing. After 2035, no new gas engines will be made anywhere in the world.
@@sunpwrd Gas engines will always exist and EVs will be against the law. When I take over Disney, everything will be done by asking "What would Walt do?" again like it was after his death and if that means keeping Tomorrowland stuck in the 1960s, so be it.
There is no reason why making electric cars wouldn't have sound. All electric vehicles I see have sound added for safety- they could easily replicate the sounds of the old gasoline engines without the fumes!
Well, I read somewhere that the Main Street vehicles have the sounds of old timey car engines put in even though they aren't gas powered.
You're correct, they would have sound. The Autopia that was at Hong Kong Disneyland was electric and they did indeed make noise.
Currently, the best way to electrify Autopia is to electrify the guide rail. And with that, I’m having visions of Rocket Rods 2.0. Whatever they do, I hope they keep the sound.
The problems with electrifying the rail (other than most of it being concrete) is the unreliable contacts and the constant wear from steering. It is possible they could do it just for the station and on the top of the rail with some form of smart contact point though. They would probably still have to stop operation on one or multiple tracks at a time to allow for proper charging though.
Thunder Alley at Six Flags Great Escape was converted to electric, using the center guiderail as the source of power for the cars. They have working radios that play classic 50's songs. Disney could play classic Disney songs if they wanted. Why would you want to pipe in sounds of gas powered cars when that's the past, not the future of transportation? Those gas powered cars are so loud and smelly. This needs to happen.
Yes, I agree retro the land, bring back the escalators, to space mountain and the (refurbished) people mover, relocate astro orbiter to its original location. Relocate Star tours to Galaxy’s edge and Come up with a new inner space ride. Launch bay retro it as well, if possible?
💯 this!
I would love to see Star Tours placed backstage between ToonTown and Galaxy's Edge. Then, guests can board Star Tours from Uncle Scrooge's Rocket Launch Bay and step out into Galaxy's Edge! 😊
Yes! I’ve been saying all that for years. We just need Disney to open up their mouse ears and hear it too.
Yeah, taking away that rattling, squealing, headache-inducing pit of noise and gas fumes would render the attraction completely non-immersive, at least with how the track is today and has been for the past 68 years. Their idea for an "electric" change reminds me more of them trying to do a 'TRON Superspeed Tunnel' type of overlay on the PeopleMover back in the day. They would have to enclose the Autopia track space to help the guest envision they are having more fun than they actually are.
As far as the “sound” of the engines, why can’t they create a sound of a “Futuristic” engine and have it come out of each vehicle via a speaker? Tesla does it. Toyota does it. Hello!!!! It’s Disney! The most creative company in the world. Or, at least, it use to be.
Car companies already pipe in fake engine noises on some models of cars. HalfAsIntresting here on youtube has a 6 min video on it.
The rocket rods sounds!
@@PeppersGhost Indiana Jones Jeeps, too.
Choosing a car sound would definitely be a new way for Disney to sell an extra souvenir. Imagine the Autopia drivers licenses having an NFC chip with your chosen engine sound that you scan on the car. I would definitely buy one.
@@George_vv That’s a great idea!
I imagine some of the battery/charging tech from Rise/Runaway Railway/Remy's other trackless ride vehicles would need to be involved. They may even be able to ditch some of the barriers and have a predetermined vehicle path. But proper alignment with charging pads would be necessary no matter what.
I for one have a difficult time with the sounds & smells of current Autopia, so I welcome a change.
People don't understand, Autopia is always a vision of the future for those kids who get behind the wheel for the first time.
^^^ THIS ^^^
Continuous induction charging from the track as the cars drive around the loop.
you mean like they do on RotR…you’re going places my friend 😉
That is also a great idea!
Fact: Bob Iger and Josh D'amaro don't care about Tomorrowland
So it would seem!
I don't think they don't care I think it's more that trying to fix/add anything in Tomorrowland is just way more money/time/effort than it's probably worth at this time. I guarantee you there's some imagineer who so desperately wants to give Tomorrowland the makeover it deserves but is just constantly fighting with the budget. Let's just hope we get some Tomorrowland news at D23 this year.
When I take over Disney and make it great again, I will undo all traces of those two and spread libel about them.
Dollywood has great electric cars, the technology already exists... The Rockin Roadway cars, the car radio plays 50's music
I wonder if they could electrify the guide rail and use that to power the cars? 🤷
I agree
An electrified bus system powered by solar would be “future”
Simply putting it electric battery powered cars is TODAY not Tomorrow
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I think the risk of someone getting out of their car and touching the rail would be too risky for them to attempt it. My guess is they'll use their trackless ride vehicle tech.
There's got to be a way to safely make an electric rail system that will keep little fingers out of harm's Way
My home park (Canada's Wonderland) uses an electric rail for its antique car ride. I see no reason why Disney couldn't do the same, especially in California where rain isn't very common.
Why not a rail that propels the cars via magnets?
They could easily implement speakers with driving noises 😂
I say Honda should upgrade the cars to Formula One engines, incorporate pit crews, and expand the track to include I-5. E-ticket for sure!
Hell yeah
That was done in Las Vegas back in November.
I think they know the autopia noise is iconic and would hope they would make the sound in some way
Electric Autopia, keep space mountain, 3 new attractions and revamp the whole land.
Thanks for the update! You are assuming that the electric vehicles will be silent. They most definitely will make some kind of "futuristic" sound. Even the street EVs today are mandated to make noise since the early ones were "dangerously too quiet".
I would love to see Autopia moved to the People Mover track. It would give perpetual motion to Tomorrowland and you can update and upgrade Tomorrowland as well as a Fantasyland expansion. It could possibly add 3-4 new attractions!!
Hmmm three out of six new critters are bears? Perhaps a prelude to a new country bear jamboree?
oh...FRESHBAKED is DISNEYLAND!!
Yeah I'm pretty sure they'll add some type of sound to the cars. My car has artificial vehicle noise composed by Hans Zimmer pumped through speakers when I'm accelerating so I'm sure they'll have something going on. Mix that in with a location based audio soundtrack depending on where you are on the track would be cool
My guess for a possible solution is a removable battery system quite like the drone planes from the company Zipline. Since it's for pretty much an electric go kart the batteries might be too heavy though.
Charging plates with contacts on top of the guide rails through the parts where you can't steer might be enough to keep them alive for the day. (They can't just electrify the whole guide rail because that's both hazardous for the amount of vehicles and they would just be creating an entirely new and worse ride because you wouldn't be able to steer at all.)
“Dr. Fossil-yay” slowed me down for a minute.
I guess Im one of those weird folks who loves the smell of gas 😂
Same
We all are…..the noise and smell of Autopia are iconic.
Ditto
When Autopia was built for opening day, freeways were the future. The 5 wasn"t even done being built. I'd like to see an update. Electric cars, more stuff to see like a river , waterfall. Bridges, tunnels. Characters. It doesn't need to be a story or IP. And then fix and bring back People Mover and I"ll be happy.
I’ll one-up you: I miss the smell of propane. 🤣
I feel like the issue holding up many potential changes in Tomorrowland is that they'd have to actually knock down buildings first - and that's something they're either not ready, or not able, to do. However, that shouldn't be an issue with Autopia - as long as they've decided how to do it (and others have posted good ideas below), upgrading the vehicles to electric seems like a doable thing. However, I agree that the engine noise is an essential part of the ambience - maybe stick baseball cards in the spokes?
Brilliant!
Thank you David for being realistic about this- you know Disney well - ( as well as love Disneyland) - Love your evaluations! Always feel like we are sitting around a table coffee in hand chatting. We love ya!❤ and I’d miss the sound but not the fumes! LOL - kind of like how much I miss the sound of the Matterhorn when its down
I know that a lot of people seem to think that Autopia is a waste of space, but I agree with David that Autopia at Disneyland is a great attraction--if only it wasn't so loud and stinky! 😢 I used to work as a Disneyland retail cast member, and I hated working at the Autopia Winner's Circle, because the incessant noise from Autopia was maddening. I don't care how nostalgic the shrieking, grating sound of the gasoline engines may be--it is a serious physical and mental health hazard.
As far as a potential "New Tomorrowland" is concerned, everyone keeps forgetting about Disneyland Forward. There is no conceivable way that Disney would finalize plans--let alone announce them--until the City of Anaheim has acquiesced to Disney's plans for the Eastern Gateway Project. Why would Disney remodel Tomorrowland if they will have to remodel again the southeastern quadrant of Disneyland in a decade?
Do you know what sits under the autopia ride? The submarine ride...you tear up autopia you tear up the submarine ride
@@davidculver5446 Not sure what your comment has to do with my comment; I wasn't advocating for the removal or replacement of Autopia--just the conversion from gas to electric in some capacity. Plus, as a former Disneyland Cast Member, I am very much aware of how the monorail track, the peoplemover track, Autopia, and the submarine lagoon are intricately intertwined.
Finally!! Crazy it’s taken this long!!
Disney is an amazing time capsule,no change is the way,or even go back and recreate things from the past...modern Disney just isn't Disney...
The Avatar Pandora graphic came out at the same time. It doesn’t say where it might be, but it’s assumed to be in Tomorrowland although Disneyland Forward in a new undeveloped area like Simba parking lot makes more sense.
Just put things in the empty Tomorrow Land buildings (Carousel, Magic Eye, Starcade, etc)
It's like when casinos switched slots to no coins. You can add in some sound effects to replicate it. It would feel weird for a few visits and then we'd get used to it.
I think there is more to the Autopia update, as they mentioned it in yesterday's Disney Parks Blog titled "4 Ways Disneyland Continues on the Road to Sustainability, Plus More to Come" too. I would love to see a complete refresh of both DL & WDW Tomorrowland.
Oh you mean retired golf carts with lead batteries. And of course further construction for electric charging. It may also require a larger fleet of cars to accomodate for charging.
Bottom line increased daily costs for the park and grid management.
"The music is the heart of every land you go to." This is why I can't believe they don't have the start wars music in in galaxies edge.
Start Wars music IS featured in STAR WARS: Galaxy’s Edge … but ONLY in appropriate settings. It exists in the rides, dining and entertainment areas, but isn’t featured anywhere that music isn’t normally played..
10:09 I have a similar video of my kid and while it would suck if the engine sounds were gone, it's called TOMORROWland for a reason. There will still be memories, just new ones. ❤❤❤
Not to mention all the fumes have to be so bad for the CMs. I get a headache every time I go on Autopia. There won't be silence. Disney Imagineers know what they are doing.
Usually.
Some parts of Redwood Creek could be taken,but wouldn't want the view coming out of Grand Californian, should be altered. It was amazing to walk out of Grand Californian, into park, on my first visit to Disneyland. Hope to come back again, last time my Pirates of the Caribbean, was refurbishment . I want to come back when refurbishment of the current attractions is done. Keep up the great vlogs, I enjoy them so much!
Great thoughts David. I feel if they would do anything, it would have to be an inductive charging system in the pavement where it charges the cars as they go and they could be waiting on that to mature more.
I totally agree with you; they wouldn't change Autopia unless it's part of a larger project to update Tomorrowland. But I don't understand why you think they'd make individual electric cars with battery packs and need charging stations. I just assumed it's the track that would be electrified, not the cars. Like slot cars. That would be some exciting use of technology too, making a 'Smart' track. There's endless possibilities in that solution.
The roaming Dr. Facilier was one of the most fun Meet & Greets in the park. Could we please have him back?
If they use the Rise battery tech, theyd need to put in a roof to cover the chargers from the elements. Which means either a new queue that covers it, or taking over the innoventions building (and adding a tunnel or bridge to cross the foot path)
I’m with you on the sounds of Autopia and keeping it. The gas from the vehicles when you stand in line a while does get a bit overwhelming and I’ve felt sick from it. But I love Autopia.. my sons drove them and now my grandson loves them. I’ll take electric.. with some noise lol. Thanks for update.
This needed to happen sooner. The fumes from just walking by Autotopia is intolerable.
I love the smell. It is my favorite part of the ride. That said, I wouldn't mind the noise reduction from going electric. And as others have said it probably isn't healthy for the cast members that are subjected to it daily.
@@gurutyler1991 I love the gas smell too!
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Autopia could be really cool if they went all in on it. It's in Tomorrowland so what does that look like? Well electric cars, maybe even an option to self drive. Add show buildings so you have a multi path destination? With a bit of effort they could make this attraction crazy awesome.
Ok you are so. right. about Tomorrowland in general.....nothing will happen (to ANY attraction) until they know what is happening in the next 10-15 years. ☑️
If they replace and keep gas sound would it smell different? And but who would know? so Disney makes Tomorrow Land 2 the movie flashback old cast to save money with new cast and set movie in future where doorway is autopia and not small world … “the earth is endangered by Hailey’s Comet and you now have a space mountain story!”
14:04 It was announced at the 2022 D23 expo that Bruno Campos would revive his role as Prince Naveen in the new ride. So I think it’s a safe bet that he’ll still be on. Hopefully they pleasantly surprise us with Dr Facilier too…
Battery-operated will never happen due to its short range and the amount of recharging time required.
Electrified track will eliminate the free driving and will be dangerous.
Autopia does not need an upgrade. It needs to be replaced with another attraction. All that space could be put to better use. Want to bring more guests to tomorrow land? Tron!!
What sits below the autopia...the submarine ride...tear up autopia so goes the submarine ride. Disneyland uses the large water rides to help manage runoff water...very important this year.
@@davidculver5446 I didn’t know that, thank you for sharing that info.
I think they got discovery land right in Paris. its very brass and cogs, steampunk, jules verne type vibes. It'll never go out of date as its not trying to be the real future. And getting fired out of a cannon on space mountain is pretty cool!
The sound can be recorded and played on a loop along with other more modern sounds (not just like a jackhammer) 😆 I think they can definitely put in a soundboard on the vehicles.
Massive blue sky here, channeling my inner Disney spokesperson. For Autopia, can they lay inductive chargers on the current track then overlay new pavement over the top of those, raising the level of the track by a foot or 2. They then introduce electric vehicles that can charge continuously wirelessly that would be lighter with a smaller battery pack and no need to park to charge?
Expensive I know but maybe less expensive than dozens of vehicles with large batteries that need to be parked to plug in and charge up.
I hope they can find someway to use induction to power the ride vehicles. Several years ago a freeway in California installed a small test section to use induction to power electric vehicles. I hope that technology has progressed enough to make this happen. Then no need to swap out batteries or charging stations.
Maybe Pandora underwater, is a portal from nemo in the sub to the "sea serpent (pandora)"?
It's about time! Let's be honest, the sound of lawnmower motors and the smell of unburnt gas and oil certainly doesn't scream "Tomorrowland". It only makes sense. Current Autopia is a thing of the past.
Put the money and resources into bringing back the People Mover….Mind blown!
Flying cars. That's "tomorrow". Even if it's an illusion, that is what needs to happen.
you could revamp the autopia roads with magnetic and turn these cars into hover car that floats.
Really delighted that Bayou Adventure is getting its own story. Princess and the Frog wasn't a great film and I was devastated that they were ruining my favourite mountain. This gives me a bit more positivity about the outcome of this ride.
Hello David! David here from Sebring Florida and I have been a fan of yours for many years almost from the beginning. And a fan of Disneyland for over fifty years. It seems like the best partner would be Honda. I like your idea of the radio. If could be like the the history of electric cars. With a safety talk at the beginning.
Then do a update on the rest of Tomorrowland later. Any thoughts? Thanks and have a magical day! 😀
I share your thoughts of this not coming anytime soon. That was cooperate PR lungi at its finest. Thanks for the updates. Fresh Baked!
They could turn them into using what they use for the trains.
Recycled French fry oil? That is already what they run on!
@@michaelsullivan3581 No they are still on gas not the recycled fry oil
I would love to see them give the cars a retro-futurism style and look to the signage along with going electric to give it that space race sort of feel.
Radiator Springs Racers has pumped in engine sounds
Let's be realistic. Hybrid is the way to go. Autopia runs on recycled fuel already. Hybrids can get almost infinity miles to the gallon, and the batteries would be very small and auto recharge. It's a no brainer!
And, yes, I truly love the Autopia cars sounding like 1950's lawn mowers!
Thats a good point about the Autopia noise it does give the ride some sorta life but how about a hover noise kinda like the noise what Tesla’s make? I think that’s kinda a 60s futuristic feel and it won’t make it completely silent. With Tomorrowland as whole why not make it a half update kinda similar to Magic Kingdoms Fantasyland because I think theres some things that should change like i think the Astro orbiter should move because its kinda in the way like why not move it above ground in the same spot or something?
The problem with making Autopia electric is the always-on aspect of a theme park ride. They can't just park and charge the cars for 20 minutes throughout the day. Ridership would drop and guest experience would drop. Every car needs to be operational all the time, therefore the number of charging stations they install would be the limiting factor in rides-per-hour. So, if they do go full-electric, then they're either going to need a swappable battery system, or they're going to need some sort of wireless charging system in the roadway itself. But, both of those are extremely expensive solutions that require new infrastructure. But, the third option is to convert the existing cars to hybrid-electric, and I think this is the most practical plan. Hybrid golf carts already exist and don't require any extra infrastructure or track modifications. The only modifications needed are to the cars, and the cars can be modified one at a time until they're all done which would have almost no impact to the guest experience. So, in my mind, the hybrid-electric is the most likely plan (if there is any plan at all.)
They can make a 5 minute stop at a charging station a part of the attraction lmao stopping to charge partially through a roadtrip is part of the experience of driving an ev
I’ve been wondering why they hadn’t switched to electric cars for the past several years. It only makes sense for a Tomorrowland attraction. Plus it’s so much better for the health of the cast members.
They always have plan's but never do anything except concept art. Nothing get's past the art work, ever.
Not just electric, the cars should also be "self driving" allowing the kids to drive with no guide rails but not allowing them to crash or fail like they did when the attraction opened. Honda would be an excellent partner for any sort of upgrades to the attraction, if there was any will to update it. I am skeptical.
Autopia can be a Slot Car track, remember those?
It will give the Appearance of an EV without being EV
I agree, the sound is a big deal but I think they can make it sound like a gas engine still just play the effects over a speaker like Radiator Springs Racers. Hopefully 😎
Poor Tomorrowland. It’s just sad to see the state its in. It’s just gonna stay the same forever.
here is an idea.....saw this one on FB....if they are going to go all electric,and disney seems to have a penchant for putting "IPs" into every attraction, why not a re-theme for autopia.....to sugar rush? put some wraps on the cars,and vannelope and wreck it ralph in the queue,and update the attraction to something kids would get...
Charging can be done from the pavement but either retrofitting or manufacturing new cars will take time. I have a hybrid so I am used to the silence. They could pipe in some sounds maybe. New story means new movie, maybe?
I love your insights. They are the best and spot on!
We agree, and we love that he’s not too proud to change his mind when his first assumption ends up being wrong. It takes a good man to admit that…
I asked the cast member a year ago why they didn’t go electric, and they said that in the rain they don’t work so because gas works better they haven’t done it, so we will see
That doesn’t make sense
@@derradune6722Oh, come on. Tell me that you’re not aware of how all the electric vehicles in the world suddenly stop working when it rains. It’s obvious that the front line cast member had the inside scoop on how Disney technology works.
@@WindowtotheMagic well maybe electric vehicles have come a long way since they tried it and I don’t know if you’ve noticed… the engines are more exposed on autopia cars than electric vehicles, but I’m just saying what they said… if they go electric great
Charging will be an issue, but I think they can. Figure it out. Need sound as I love to hear a good revving engine or sputter.
I could see it going hybrid. Honda is making a lot of new electric vehicles with the goal of making zero emission vehicles by 2040. It would be cool if Autopia became a testing for the technology, I doubt that would happen, I can see them being hybrid before going completely electric.
Yup. All major manufacturers are moving away from all electric vehicles. They are not viable under present technology. For now the future is hybrid. Hydrogen engines are coming out now, as well. The exhaust of a hydrogen engine is water. Now That's green!
@@michaelsullivan3581 Yeah and I think I read that Honda is focusing on Hydrogen engines.
A compact Litium Iron Phosphate (cheap and safe) battery around 5kwh in capacity along with wireless charging along the track and at the loading station would be the way to go.
The quieter motors would be so much better, looking forward to it. My kids wonder why they haven't updated them yet and have joked that thise will probably be the only gas burning cars they ever drive.
Imagine Autopia without the sounds? They currently sound like out-of-tune lawn mowers. Some artificial noise coming from the cars would be much better. How about imagine Autopia without the nasty fumes? It would certainly be healthier for the CMs.
Create a track like RS. The electrical power pick-up would be from under the track!
Hong Kong Disneyland had electric vehicles with engine sounds provided to each car.
The electric vehicles for Disneyland will allow for a cleaner experience as well as a new area to be built next to it, Fantasyland side, with no noise intrusion
I'm not a local/ regular, just a vacay tourist but I do not like Tomorrowland and have not stepped foot in it my last 5 visits to not waste my limited visiting time.
They should remove the track and use their trackless ride technology. A computer can easily monitor the driving and guide the vehicle back into the lane boundaries when necessary.
It wouldn’t be silent, they could easily pipe those exact same sounds into an in car speaker and or speakers in and around the attraction so while the cars technically be silent, it would sound exactly the same. my hybrid car has a sport mode has a recorded sound that does change with the amount of acceleration and it sounds natural
Autopia without the noise and air pollution? Sounds great to me!! 😃👍
Heres the reason why I think Autopia will never go electric: Its easier and quicker to refill a go-kart than it is to wait for one to charge for a good few hours. Unless they add charging stations/those electric floors to charge them.
I don't think Disney has any large plans for Tomorrowland just yet because Autopia, Finding Nemo and Space Mountain are always busy. If those rides were dying and had few guests in line, then I think they would have an incentive to update the entire land. It makes perfect sense to update Autopia with electric vehicles. Honda would be my first guest since they are the current sponsor of the ride, but I'm sure Toyota would also love to be the sponsor.
I would be all for that. It will be interesting how they accomplish it though. I remember rumors from several years ago that Disney might move the electric version from Hong Kong to Disneyland but there are probably reasons it hasn't happened. I would like for Autopia to stick around in some form along with the submarines.
I bet some version of new Tomorrowland will come in the near future but not until Haunted Mansion and Tiana's are done.
There won't be a 'new Tomorrowland' until Disneyland Forward is built out.
An electric Autotopia can become an indoor attractiom, you could put another ride on top.
The future is charging pads - like you use for your phone, or even Disney's own run-a-way railroad. Or even picking up power safely from the guide rail. It could be done and would be cheaper to operate than those stinking go- cart engines.
Read this morning and first thoughts are tech the same as some others with an electric contact type track (down the center of the tracks), possibly.
Also, I think the People Mover would have done this long ago when you had considered the possibility of a return a year or more ago. That’s a very long shot of course, unfortunately :/
Sounds wouldn’t be an issue these days to somewhat replace the old in a relatively decent manner but without breathing all the stuff that makes many choke (my family). I’d be riding it a lot if the change were made.
Why make the cars battery powered at all? you have the wheel guide in the middle just make it rail in ground like a monorail/train. cheaper and more effective than trying to make it self powered
My home park (Canada's Wonderland) uses an electric rail for its antique car ride. The vehicles are continuously powered by the rail as they move along the track. The ride closes due to rain, but being in California, I see no reason why Disneyland couldn't do the same for Autopia. And the cars are still quite noisy.
Here's my guess, the cars will be charged via inductive charging throughout the entire track or just the loading portion. It IS "tomorrow"land.
That would be the best and right way to do it, in my opinion.
They would have to electrify the rail in the middle of the track for cars to get power from