Will updates to DAS system work? | how bad is it and how did it start?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Disney has confirmed they're making changes to their Disability Access System. This, in an effort to limit or prevent guests from abusing or mis-using the system. The changes may or may not work, but today we'll get into not just what those fixes are, but also why the problem may be worse than they're letting on, how it began, and if maybe Disney is fixing the wrong problem.
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There is always people abusing things whether it is government programs, Disney etc. but you can’t make it harder on the people that need his service because of a certain few.
Disney is money hungry. If they were worried bring back the regular fast pass and that will crush the problem
100% agree
I think the threat of a permanent ban should deter people who are truly abusing it
that has existed for years. Its the same exact langauge as before or at least was when I went nov 20th and 21st 2023. (DAS user here)
Lol, oh no Disney don’t punish me! They ruined the parks. What loss is it for anyone to get banned at this point. There’s no magic left to be banned from.
If they don’t ask for documentation, a disabled person can’t prove they are disabled. So how are they going to prove that someone is not disabled? I definitely want illegitimate users banned, but also don’t want disabled people to be falsely accused.
@@calebhoward8940 I can't go so far as to be so melodramatic as to say that they "ruined the parks." But I don't disagree that Chapek-era changes have turned the experience of going into something often more grueling than flat-out enjoyable. If Disney doesn't get its head on straight when it comes to guest experience, the ongoing bad PR is really going to take a toll. Hell, it's taking a toll NOW. Being a SoCal resident and long-time Disney parks fan, I now second-guess any thoughts of going, and that never used to be the case.
@@crytsanana3592 They don't ask for documentation because that would be a lawyers dream and they would get sued. The reality is they cannot stop it because anyone can lie. The reality is they made a mistake when they started they decided autism was a valid reason for DAS. If they stuck with the original system where it was only used for guest with mobility problems it was much easier to police.
Frankly I don't understand why anyone with a kid with autism that was so extreme they couldn't stand in a line without having a breakdown would be taken to Disneyland... It reminds me of the moronic parent that took their kid to see a Dora the Explorer live show when the kid was so far gone he started freaking out and screaming non-stop as soon as the show started. I know everyone wants to think their kids can do anything... but reality is some cannot.
At someone that works in attractions. I can tell you that every third group going through lightning Lane is a das party. DAS is a wonderful thing, but it is 100% being abused.
The only way to stop it would be to require documentation. And I don't think that is legal. DAS made it so I could go to the parks. I would not have without it. But people abused it back then too. At one point there were even tour guides using it to take groups in the park.
What’s being abused are families who can’t afford to pay for Genie plus. If Disney really needs more money from guests, then they should just charge it upfront in the ticket price rather than trying to trick people by forcing them to pay extra for the experience that we used to get for free five years ago.
@@RyanWilmot 100% agree!! I'm literally not even mad at the cheaters. I'm a DAS for real user, and I'm incredibly angry, but NOT at the cheaters. No wonder this is all getting crazy since fast pass was taken away. 🤔
Almost every Facebook forum I'm in, someone says their kid needs DAS. It's a continual question and everyone explains how easy it is to get. Autism diagnoses must be at an all-time high.
As someone who requests DAS under my physical issues, I do not feel comfortable outing myself otherwise. Especially after speaking to a CM tonight, who while wonderful, had zero medical training or understanding. The CM asked why I don’t purchase a walker to use while in the parks- that’s what the collapsible cane is for. I have multiple physical issues that aren’t readily apparent.
I have never used other issues I have because, again, I do not feel comfortable outing myself. I can imagine that there are plenty of others who feel similar.
If there is no training, does that mean that they will move to a functional/nonfunctional sliding scale that is up to a CM that may not understand the nuances of neurodivergence and disabilities?
Instead of accusing these new DAS users of being people looking for a loophole, Disney should also recognize that their previous FastPass system was also another free accommodation for people with disabilities.
The increase in DAS users correlates with the termination of the FastPass system because more people with disabilities were able to access the park/rides without asking for specific accommodations from DAS. Now that FastPass is gone, some of those people are seeking DAS assistance.
Disability has a very specific legal definition and so does reasonable accommodation. There is no such thing as a free accommodation legally, only reasonable accommodations under the ADA, which Disney can choose what kind of reasonable accommodation to provide, but they only have to provide one if someone requests it and provides the proper documentation showing that the person an a disability which affects a major life activity and what that disability prevents them from doing. Only then, can Disney know what options it has to allow that person to use the facilities. People don't have a right to choose their reasonable accommodation, they have to accept or reject the one that is offered to them.
The previous fast pass was also superior to this rip off version.
I paid for the last one as part of the max pass, and I could fast pass the same ride more than once in one day, but now I can only use it once for each ride per day but still pay the same price. It's basically a rip off
That’s exactly the case. Five years ago, max pass was a thing. People used that instead of DAS as it helped in the same way.
If Disney would just allow genie+ as a magic key add-on for a flat fee for the whole year, I’d just pay for that instead of messing with DAS. But there’s no way I feel that $60/day for my wife and I to get on rides is reasonable.
@@davidiwolf I bet if they just made the Lighting lane paid option reusable for each ride more than once per day, it would see a slight decrease in DAS system users.
Currently there is no real incentive for genie plus, the whole systems feels like it's trying to control your day in the park more than Guide you.
It really feels like a cheap gimmick left over from Chapels poor decisions.
@@tjtennisicmroll2k You are 100% incorrect. It is illegal to charge any kind of fee for a disability accommodation. I mean really, how could you get such a basic thing so wrong? You are also incorrect about choosing accommodations. You can't turn a disabled person away just because you don't want to provide that particular accommodation. It has to be a HARDSHIP to the company to provide for ANY requested accommodation. That means the requested accommodation would (In Disney's case) have to be hugely expensive or completely change operations. You really need to quit while you are behind.
This is a moral and ethics issue. Cheaters are going to cheat which will always make it harder on the ones who need the help and for those of us who play by the rules. People who feel entitled because you are now paying an additional fee for something you "used to get for free" are also the problem. Times change. Businesses change. If you don't like those changes, you don't go. When I took my young children and grandchildren to the Parks, they didn't want to wait in the lines either. My grandmother could only ride a couple of rides a day because of long queues. This is what it is. Everyone knows the situation going in. People who need REAL assistance SHOULD be assisted. Anyone who thinks that it is ok to try and cheat the system, YOU are the problem and nothing can ever be fixed with condoning such actions.
Wise words my friend 👍
As someone that lives with severe anxiety, depression and PTSD... I rather just go to Disneyland for food at this point. I might not renew my Disneyland Inspire key. My favorite ride is closed for most which is the haunted mansion. I do my best to be prepared at the park, I take my medication, I bring noise cancellation headphones and I try to find places take breaks in quieter areas. My anxiety gets go overwhelming at times that I dizzy because I'm so hypervigilant.. A stimulating environment like Disneyland, brings heightened state of awareness can be particularly challenging, as there are numerous sights, sounds, and crowds that can trigger feelings of anxiety and distress.
sorry to hear that
Why don’t you buy genie + and get shorter wait times that way?
@@idaUnchainedthe OP shouldn’t have to pay extra to be able to experience Disney without freaking out due to a legitimate medical condition. They didn’t require an accommodation in the past because Disney’s standard policy meet their needs. Disney changed the policy and started charging for the same service. Now they need a reasonable accommodation that doesn’t cause undue hardship on Disney as required by federal law. If OP is put in a position where this could happen and someone is injured because their reasonable accommodation was denied there would be a good argument that Disney is responsible for a portion of the injury.
@@daveg1701 sorry, but that’s just not the law. You should go read Title 3 of the ADA. And if someone does something knowing that they are likely to get injured and then do get injured doing that thing, they are liable for their own injuries
@@idaUnchainedcause that is longer at times
As someone who has a sibling with low functioning autism I can say that we really need this unlike many others. They cannot wait in lines and the DAS really helps. It is a shame that people would abuse this amazing and trip-saving program.
My child has Autism and we never used the DAS program because he IS able to stand in the stand-by line. I figured there has always been more benefit for him in learning to cope with waiting in line. It’s unfortunate that people are abusing this system that benefits so many people who needs it. I have decided not to renew the pass because it has not been worth it for us to pay thousands of dollars to go and not be able to ride anything because the lines are too long.
Good for you
Wonderful. That’s exactly the right outlook. Someone with some decency.
I’m an Autism mom and think it’s great if your child is a place on the spectrum where they can tolerate it but there are some of us whose children have Autism that cannot tolerate it. Every child on the spectrum is different as you know please be mindful of that.
@@lisahall3018 You have no sense of shame and such an entitled victimhood mentality. Id have way more respect for someone who had a genuine condition but didn't use that victimhood crutch to cheat others and get special treatment. Take some agency for yourself and grow up. Youre just cheating the line and playing victim
@@lisahall3018 Same thoughts here. I'm not sure she was insinuating that...? @glamyumable
I have a close family member with a genuine disability access need and I would be more than happy to take a few extra steps to acquire DAS if it meant that the system doesn't get abused. Almost every person I see commenting - both here and on other platforms - who's in the same position as me says the same thing. Disney should be accessible to everyone, except the people who abuse the systems in place that make Disney accessible to everyone.
The issue there is that there's no guarantees that people with harder to diagnose conditions are any less disabled than those with actual paperwork. I was in my mid-teens when I got my OCD diagnosis and my late 20s when I got my ADHD diagnosis and I'm still working to get my ASD diagnosis in my 40s. I'm lucky, in that the worst issues I have can be addressed with sunglasses, ear plugs and not going to the park during hotter months. But, other folks aren't so lucky,.
No matter what they do there will always be abuse.
Yes, always.
As a father with a child on the Spectrum! I’m glad they’re implementing this! For those who abused it you’re screwed! But for families who really need it congrats
Lol. You’re cheating the line like everyone else and don’t deserve special treatment.
But what about people who need it for reasons other than autism?
@@mrs.looneysgreeklatinlesso2282 your drs note 📝 will determine that one
@@calebhoward8940 Curious why you think that
@@ChambriaGuthrie I took the autism test and got a 149/200 so high-ish level, I dont feel a need to cheat others and cut in line. In the comments so far ive seen ADHD, anxiety, celiac as hypochondriac excuses to cut the line in front of others. Just because you have a gluten intolerance or some dusting of autism doesnt mean you can ruin other peoples enjoyment of the parks and get special line privileges. We all need to act like good citizens and not use our perceived petty victimhood status to rob others
We have a family member who suffers with Autism & Aspherger’s. The DAS pass is a wonderful way to include people who are often excluded from public activities.
And that's what it is for. It's not for ppl who have adhd or depression...not diminishing their issues, I have them as well, but I'd never apply for a DAS pass bc of it.
I believe it is important to address the DAS system as it can be abused by many if they so choose. One interesting comment is that on your last video on Knotts of Fast Lane is it needed or is the $100 worth it. The clear answer was yes with how long the wait times were. Especially if you were trying to get onto rides. When is come to Disney, if you are wanting to get on rides, Genie + is a definite must these days. But one thing that should change is the ratio of Standby (More) guests to Genie+, DAS, VIP or any other skip the line. This would greatly improve the Standby Guest experience. As a user of Genie+, waiting 10 to 20 minutes in a Lightning Lane Line is OK. They should also raise the price of Genie+, they get the same revenue, fewer buyers, thus standby moves faster as well. We will see how this all works out in the end.
As someone with type 1 diabetes going on my first solo trip I got DAS.
I also purchased Genie+.
My glucose levels drop in the parks from the excitement and the long, hot waits in the sun.
I was told by the CM that approved me a few weeks ago that if i go with another person I will no longer be able to qualify.
Just a heads up for others with Type 1 diabetes.
But why if their limit is 4? This is what I mentioned in an earlier comment. It’s nice to have someone with you in the park when you have a drop, especially if it’s a stubborn low-and the person traveling with you would most likely know at least some of the ins and outs of your co-morbidities (if you have any) or where your glucagon is and how to administer it.
She said that going forward, the cast member can hold my place in line if I need to finger prick, inject insulin or use the bathroom.
I would only qualify for it if it was a minor child and no other adult.
This was told to me during my DAS video chat.
@@lauriepacheco7217 thank you for the details, do you think their offered reasonable accommodation will allow you to have access to the park?
Aren’t you embarrassed? Diabetes so therefore you can cut in line? Shameful.
@calebhoward8940 with type 1, multiple injections per day and needle pokes to check for dangerous low and high blood sugar levels for over 50 years now going solo I am not embarrassed at all.
Unless you know someone who has this type of diabetes and is flying across the country alone for a solo trip, then you should be embarrassed by your statement.
It's obvious the DAS system has more users BECAUSE of Genie+. That alone should be an indicator to Disney that we, the consumer, the guest, do not want to pay for rides at an additional cost to the extremely high admission prices. DUH.
As an autistic patent of an autistic child, I am fully aware of folks with legitimate diagnoses who REALLY don't need to be using the DAS system but do anyway. Their children are disabled, but the way their disability manifests does not at all affect their ability to wait in a line... but they use it anyway. If Disney can ask a wheelchair user to wait in a normal queue, these people are capable of boredom. It is absolutely 100% abused and will absolutely continue to be even under the revamp.
This is good to have a change. So many people abuse it. Lots of people who can wait weren’t. The ability to have DAS helped tons of people who couldn’t otherwise go.
I only found out about DAS before my last trip to WDW. Many people seem to think it is for visible or mobility related disabilities, and perhaps that is why I didn't know it was available to me. This definitely makes me more anxious about reapplying, as I'm looking at a trip to DL right after this goes into effect.
I am so curious to find out the effects, if any, this will have on the queue's. Can't wait.
Wow! Very interesting. We were just there over Easter and actually tried applying for the DAS for our son. He has ADHD and can have issues standing still or being stagnant. The wait time to speak with a cast member before the trip was well over 3 hours most days and we were NOT able to get the DAS pass. I decided to just do Genie+ and it worked out fine for us. However we had a party of 5 people, mom/dad, 2 kiddos, and grandma. So Genie+ was a little steep price point. I'm happy to say our son did great and the longest line we waited in was maybe 40-45 minutes. Maybe the problem is with the interview process, maybe the restrictions should be more strict. If Disney gave the DAS pass to someone then they should accept the responsibility for handing out the pass. Maybe they're too relaxed on whom receives it. Genie + only goes so far though. Especially when you have to pay extra for rise and racers...
Great video on a very challenging subject.
Let’s be honest the lines aren’t long because of DAS it’s lightning lane and the no limit unlike fastpass
Absolutely! Totally agree!
What is the no limit for LL?
Exactly you still have to wait when using DAS just not in a line
the limit - simple hypothetical version - you got a ride that you know can load 100 people in 10 mins. So you know your queue of 500 people will take 50 minutes. you got 500 people standing there, straightforward. But put in a fast pass system, offer 50 fast passes for every 10 mins. 50 people from standby and 50 people walking in with passes get on the ride every 10 minutes. You can tell your standby people how long they're waiting if you know half the places are going to passes.
That's with a set limit, half the places are available to passes every 10 mins. If you take away that limit, and anyone who buys a pass can get on the ride ahead of the standby line, they might be waiting hours for a gap in the traffic to get on the ride!
Lightning Lane is obviously a lot more complicated than that, it does have a limit, it can sell out, but it doesn't seem like it's anywhere near is balanced and regulated as the older systems were.
@@ItsameBS so it’s my belief they would limit how many guests could get a fastpass for a said hour when a limit was hit they go to the next hour and so on, so example when Toy Story Mania was brand new by 8 pm they were completely sold out of fast passes on the original fastpass system because throughout the day people got fast passes each hour, so if it a lot of people used it they wouldn’t tell you come back in an hour it could tell you come back 2 hrs later 3 hrs later and so on. I believe they used to have a limit of how many people could get a fastpass each hour. With lightning lane since people are paying for it there’s no limit and now both the standby and lighting lanes lines are well over an hour, Disney doesn’t care because people are paying for it.
Thanks for the coverage of this. We have a Downsyndrome grandson and have used this in the past. It saddens me that people would "cheat" the system but it also saddens me that Disney now charges for fastpasses. We are going again in June. Still love it!
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I work at universal studios hollywood as a ride operator and this is an issue that has been pleading this park for a long time. When you tell them that the wait time is 60 minutes and your return time is 1:45 when at that time it's 1:00 you'll know it its an abuser when they get mad and say "Can we just go in? I cant wait that long." And mind you they don't possess a wheelchair or show signs of any disability. I'm on the spectrum also, so I know how to detect the signs of a mental disability. It's strange, but it's also disgusting to see guests who have no disability abuse this benefit and we also run out of those passes.
You can't "see" mental disability just because you are autistic. What a silly notion.
This is why I switched to cruising. I have an issue with my legs and can't stand for long periods of time without excruciating pain. Being in a wheelchair you get rude comments from other guests that haven't learned the nonya rule of why someone is in an ECV is none of their business. Plus being at the level as those darn bubble wands in a crowd of people is not the best so I would rather use my cane, then get a return time so I can go sit down as I need. Parks are done for me it sounds like.
Sorry to hear that, if you are sitting in a wheelchair, but in the normal line, it seems like you wouldn't get rude comments? Were you talking about getting rude comments when sitting in a wheelchair and going through the DAS entrance?
@@tjtennisicmroll2k no people are jerks you get them all over the place but especially just going with the flow of traffic or trying to get through an entrance to plaza inn with it parked up with strollers and people pushing their way in front of you as they see you struggling. Being in the regular line doesn't help this. I'm glad I did not renew my magic key because I can't go back to the park.
When I worked Park Entry at MK, I granted free admission, (on two occasions) to families with 8-10yr old kids but the moms said they were 2 years old. We were absolutely not allowed to challenge them and in they went. Disney will NEVER get to the point where they flat out challenge guests on needing a DAS pass and as long as people act and put up a fuss, they will get that pass.
Which means the fakers will be more likely to get the DAS.
@@climateanxiety2825 Exactly yeah, that was my point.
Disneyland cast members will challenge guests. Challenging guests happens a lot more often over at Disneyland than it does at Walt Disney World.
@@KeithS4789 probably because Disneyland is a magic key pass park and Disney world is a tourist park
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David, another thing that you have to think about is yes genie+. But covid seems to affected a lot more people mentally. I have applied for DOS in the past because I am a kidney transplant. Patient who sometimes blood pressure blood sugar drops or increases, depending on how my system is acting and I’ve gone the past before. I wonder if taking my disability information for my handicap placard on the car Would help. The other thing is there’s going to be somebody who sees I’m sure because a disability really isn’t always visible and if a member says no you’re not disabled that’s gonna cause an issues but at the same time they can’t actually ask you what issues you have because I goes beyond the HIPAA agreement. I’ve been told that they would suggest a wheelchair, but the thing is, it’s not always for me, and since I am a magic key holder, I don’t have to ride every single ride. I just ride one ride because I can come back in a couple days. I think if you’re not disabled, who were they?
Hi, David. Hey, we have been using DAS for many, many years. We're annual pass holders and our son is in a wheelchair. He has all sorts of conditions that limit him to being in a long line. One of them is autism. If he's in a long line, he will pull some one's hair or kick the person in front of us or on the side. To this day I feel like I have to explain everything that's wrong with him to the guest member in order for him to get a SAS Even though he's completely in a wheelchair, I guess I should just say he needs the ride to be stopped and that might solve it all😅 very frustrated with people Abusing the system, but I get It Disneyland is expensive. They should go back to the regular lightning lanes. Hate always having to explain
my son's disability I thought it was against the law to ask your disability We should just say he's disable and that is that.
I think Covid needs to be a part of these discussions, if we're going to look at the problem fairly. Millions of people were left with chronic medical concerns, so it's natural that there was some level of increase in DAS users.
There is absolutely widespread abuse of the DAS program, especially here at WDW, but I think we need to be very cautious about suggested changes that punish disabled people for the actions of non-disabled people. Adding additional burdens to the people who generally have access to the least resources is a choice society needs to stop making so enthusiastically.
You said it -- Disney needs to work on the actual problem. Why are the lines so long? Why aren't they more comfortable to wait in? Why aren't they doing anything to entertain people in those lines? Instead of putting in the work, Disney wants to shift the burden to disabled people. An estimated 25% of the population is disabled. As medical science continues to improve, we're going to see more disabled people, not less, because people will be living longer, and surviving more diseases and injuries. Society, including public businesses, needs to start figuring out how to deal with it.
Right on point, good reasoning, agree, and not disabled here.
Once everyone is disabled to some degree then there’s no need for DAS at all. Everyone is the same. That’s where this is headed.
Disney has created a situation that makes it difficult for people with disabilities to use their business. To be clear, poor management creates longer lines, making it difficult for people to tolerate these lines. Yes, terrible people abuse the DAS system, and I am in no way excusing that. I am asking Disney yo step up and make the experience better for everyone!
I have multiple sclerosis and have issues standing for long periods of time, but don't want the hassle of a wheelchair. Not to mention auditory and cognitive dysfunctions. I only use it for me and my husband.
That is exactly what I have. And at times when I was denied DAS they told me you can just go get a wheelchair. I am there by myself. A wheelchair is not something that I could wheel myself around in. And they said oh I understand you should rent an ECV then. And this is pretty much why I am not going to renew my pass. The struggle it takes to get any help in this park is ridiculous.
I feel another perspective that could be looked at is alot more people are being diagnosed with autism , adhd , etc , because we are barely catching up to what autism potetionally look like in women , people of color , etc . And when you finally understand what youre dealing with of course you are going to want to accomodate yourself as anyone should be able to . I dont think theres absolutely no one who would intend on abusing it , and i also think there are more people who need more accomodations than we think sometimes. My best friend for example can practically barely go on the haunted mansion / the queue in space mountain / watch fireworks because of her claustrophobia. Being distressed multiple times a day isnt fun even if youre able to get through it . Just another perspective .
I also hate being crammed in those lines, I get very irritated when the people behind me don't give me space, or their kid is crying. But, I don't think I legally qualify under the ADA as being disabled, because my feelings don't prevent me from performing daily activities. For it to be a disability under the ADA, it has to be something that effects a major life activity. For example, if your friend cannot hold a job or cannot feed herself because of her condition, then that is a disability and if her disability prevents her from standing in a line for more than 10 minutes according to a doctor, then that is something that Disney is required to grant a reasonable accommodation for. It can be whatever reasonable accommodation they want, but it has to allow a person with a disability to use the facility that they provide.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Nowhere as dumb as your trolling,@@calebhoward8940
It's not just that. I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease, and just found out that I have the type that effects the brain. I have issues with balance, sensory issues, tremors, peripheral neuropathy and extreme anxiety. But if I say I have Celiac Disease, everyone will think I just have digestive issues. So standing in a line surrounded by people for that long is impossible for me. NO ONE is going to believe I have brain damage from Celiac. So do I make something up? It's bad enough to have the disability and to be called a fraud by an amusement park is beyond the pale.
@@calebhoward8940 What is dumb about it?
Im a bilateral amputee. There are things i cant do anymore. Going to Disney is one of them
I know of several bilateral amputees that go to Disneyland. That said, every situation is different. I wish you could talk to them about it.
As the parent of a child with Autism, our enjoyment of Disneyland increased substantially once we discovered DAS. The last time we went, for my son's 16th birthday, we signed up for DAS and purchased Genie+. This weekend my son will be going to Disneyland for the first time own his own with just friends and says he won't use DAS. Although I think more of that has to do with the fact he's 18 and wants to be "normal" and less to do with the hassles of DAS.
I loved when Max passes part of your annual pass along with the photo pass system. But with Disney, losing money on Disney+ and ESPN and Hulu and all their other nonsense, the parks are still popular and we get to pay for all their losses don’t even make money anymore
As a DAS user I don't mind some restrictions so that they can keep the service. We could not do Disney without it. I just hope the restrictions dont disqualify my family member.
If Disney was really interested in providing equitable access to the disabled population of guests, they would make sure people were not using handicap parking spots without placards or with “borrowed” or even expired placards. But they don’t. Parking staff have indicated that they will not take any actions for misuse, and Anaheim PD never patrol it either.
I see exactly what you are saying and I agree. It amazes me how many young parents with little ones in strollers constantly parking in handicap spots. I believe that the placards are borrowed as well-I have seen in way too often in my life!,
I agree the parking is bad, but it seems like you are faulting Disney for doing what you wish Anaheim PD would do for the parking. It is hard for Disney to have authority over who is using a parking pass that Disney is not issuing, but certainly Disney is responsible for who they are giving DAS, and they should provide them according to the law.
@@chrisrybak7370 They do the same with handicap stalls in the restroom. The idea that having a small child is equivalent to being disabled is hugely entitled and insulting.
Just bring back the free fast pass system. It would remove the incentive to abuse the DAS system. If Disney still wants more revenue, then add the ability to buy individual lightning lanes to each ride. That would limit the number of lightning lane users and possibly increase revenue. The original purpose of the free fast pass was to allow guests to spend more time buying stuff and food vs waiting in line. You get better guest satisfaction and more revenue. Paying for fast passes defeats this purpose if there is no limit on the number of genie plus sold. The only other way is to do what Universal does and have Genie plus at a very high price and remove the time reservations for the system.
Exactly
I can understand trying to crack down on potential abuse of DAS. As a mom of a kiddo with Tourette's, the DAS pass made a huge difference for our visit in August 2023. I was a bit surprised that we weren't required to provide documentation. I was fully prepared, and would happily consent to providing medical documentation as proof. Unfortunately, I know there are many people with disabilities that don't have a formal diagnosis, so I'm not sure if there would be some additional rigor to help evaluate eligibility.
How about we bring back free fast passes instead of having to pay for genie plus when the entire damn park is expensive 😊
Potentially a hot take: As someone who has used DAS since they were a kid. I like this change. Last time I went it was so stressful not knowing until day of if I would qualify under their system as someone with a hidden disability. I like that now you can know ahead.
Also as someone who struggles to wait in lines, when DAS was being abused it made even some lighting lanes difficult. I like that they are trying to cut down on it all around.
Yes there is abuse and it has hurt everyone in the DAS community so much. The lines are so long where we have to step out of line just to keep her moving because they are filled with groups of people not on the genie pass not rightfully there in line.
But for those whom really need it like my family of 3, we rarely have an extra family member join us because we do not want to abuse it. It is so upsetting to see 15-20 people faking or bringing grandma in a wheelchair 6 is the limit. If your in a scooter you are not mentally disable just to bring 14 -20 people in the lighting lane. You can wait in line. You make life miserable for those of us trying to keep our das pass user cool so they don't have a seizure or clean their tube. We could not enjoy the park at all with out this pass. The problem is monumentally huge! We feel blessed to have this pass and even get 2 or 3 rides in a day before our daughter is wiped out is a milestone.
My daughter has down syndrome, serve autism, non- verable, seizures, and OCD. We have to keep her moving in a wheelchair because she is claustrophobic we I learned this the hard way with a physical meltdown with a punch in the eye from my daughter with a toy while inline for Peter pan. So we stopped going for a while till we learned about the DAS pass we went back with a doctor's note explaining her disabilities that was made in person they saw her and agreed yes she needed the pass. This ritual would happen every time we went back to Disneyland to receive this paper pass stating what our needs were that was like 20 years ago. But we would do this for our precious daughter. I would give anything to not have to use this pass and have a regular normal visit like everybody else. But because of this pass we have been blessed to see so many miracles within the parks with our daughter her inactions with cast members and even other guest is amazing. But because she is nonverbal there are two places that people talk to her and that’s Disneyland and our church. The joy she receives from going to Disneyland is priceless a place where she can forget about her constant jaw and cranial pain. Even though she is 31 she is mentally at around 4-6 years old. We could not enjoy the park at all with out that pass and the joy would be gone. Please people stop abusing this program and pay for the genie pass. Sincerely please for all those whom can not speak up for themselves like my non-verbal daughter please be kind and considerate. Thank you. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you
That's too bad, that Disney has to basically reduce DAS. I have 2 twin nieces that need the DAS or won't be able to get on any rides, as it is some times they only get on one in a day. If we see that the park is over crowded we let others get on the rides because we figure, we have passes and can ride another day. But this DAS review is giving them both anxiety anxiety. 😮
I always waited in line but I am now on meds that if I am in the sun too long I swell up like a balloon. I was starting to use less and less of the meds and was hoping things would improve but now m,y body is getting worse. Guess we will just do something else.
personally I have always seen the genie plus as a virtual line system + reserve time back system rather than fast pass. It's not meant to skip lines for me, but rather I could be lining up for 2 things at the same time. I guess its the expectations that makes the difference.
Super interesting point and kind one I've never thought about. Thanks for sharing!
That is exactly how it works, as did Fastpass and Maxpass. DAS is the same. You get a return time, the same amount of time for the line or close to it, then you return when that has elapsed. It’s not an immediate show and go on the ride.
Normally, I use that time to eat, navigate bathrooms, or sit if I can find a place to do so. Occasionally I’ll use it to wait for a ride if the wait is less than 10 minutes, but that never happens anymore.
@@beautifullyheeled9246 exactly some of these people are complaining like its an immediate fast pass when the real problem is the Park just has way too many people and rides break down too often
Was at DLR for Spring Break - noticed the LL is exponentially longer than before. I’m sure DLR has the data drom when LL started and DAS increasing at same time. I have seen people using mobility assistance vehicles and all of a sudden jump right back up and run or go to bathroom. I wondered about this and is most likely rampant and is correlated with start of LL.
The language stating they can revoke your tickets and not let you in for lying in the application process has always been there it is NOT new. People only think it’s new because they never read the fine print before.
It probably went down right after the Covid lockdown as I believe some of the disabled guest are vulnerable to it so there will be less of them. But over the last few years it will have gone back up again as more of them go back to the park. But it also wouldn’t surprise me that some guest were abusing it so they didn’t have to pay for genie+.
This issue has been a problem ever since the Disney parks opened. If they haven't FIXED this issue by now they NEVER will. Disney is setting themselves up for Discrimination Lawsuits from the ADA. Under this new proposal for a DAS pass my Handicapped Granddaughter who was born with Cereabal Palsey who has in a wheelchair, cannot stand, walk or be out in the sun for long periods of time due to her condition will be punished and will NOT qualify for a DAS pass. Disney also wants to hire a independent company who are NOT doctors to determine if a person qualifies or not. There are also certain attractions that if you are in a wheelchair you cannot go through the regular standby Queue and need to use a different entrance and need the DAS pass. I have been getting her a DAS pass since 2010 and Disney has made it more difficult every year to get her one. We DON'T use it for all attractions if possible, only the ones where we need to use a different handicapped entrance like Small World, Thunder Mountain, etc. The other problem that needs to be addressed is how many people can be listed on a DAS pass and Limit it to five.
They aren’t denying her accommodations. Maybe she will have different accommodations that are more appropriate for her needs.
one has DAS and brings up to six other guests! It's like Club 33...they're probably selling the spots. Win Win...until Disney cracks down (finally)...now go after Club Members who abuse THAT system
Always good info
What people need to understand is that Disney isn't saying f u to people with disabilities. They are saying that they have ways to accommodate disabilities without abusing the system. A person with a disability that makes it hard for them to walk long distances can rent a wheelchair. That person would sit most of the day anyways, so why is it any different sitting in a line and being pushed? And for those that will say that not all lines accommodate wheelchairs, that's when they give a das pass for that specific ride for a return time. My friend can't walk and wears a neck brace and is a Dr who could write himself a note to get out of it, but he doesn't complain. We rent a wheelchair and wait in line. Disney is a choice, not a right, but everyone acts like Disney should just bend over backward. If you don't like it, don't go or go somewhere else. It's like driving a car, you can choose to follow the rules or if you break them you can have your license taken away or lose your life, etc. There are rules everywhere in life, not just here. And some of those rules, we HAVE to follow or face a consequence, that is our choice.... like taxes.
The DAS pass doesn't cover all the rides that Genie+ does, so we always get both (my daughter qualifies for DAS)
Accept now they won't accept adhd as a disability. On autism. And now my mother can't be on the pass with my kids and I because that's 5 people.. only 4 immediate members allowed. So now they're discriminating against families and disabilities
I also have a trip planned that I am wondering if I need to cancel or not! I decided to splurge for my 50th birthday, and rented DVC points. I need to know if I should cancel my trip or not before it’s too late to get money back. Why did Disney not think of situations like this? I know other people are in the same situation as myself.
I use DAS because of my mental impairment. I'm worried the people who lie will just find new ways to lie, while the people who need the system have to work harder to get it, or are denied because a CM doesn't take them seriously enough. edit: also a lot of people seem to forget that adults have autism too. it's not just a thing kids might have. and if someone wasn't diagnosed and treated before the age of 5, they'll have lifelong problems because of said autism. I wasn't diagnosed until my 30's.
WDW had a free digital fastpass system that allowed advance booking of 3 fastpasses each day. It pretty much eliminates the need for DAS
My husband always rents an electric wheelchair so we can use the disability lines because he has stiff person syndrome and he cannot stand or walk very far so it’s not just for people with autism and I agree. It’s getting out of control seeing people that really don’t need to use that, makes it hard for everybody that needs to, plus it is not easy to get around in the park in a chair, people jump out in front of you and expect you to stop, you don’t step in front of a moving vehicle. It is not something that I want, is something I need to use at Disneyland, and we, always buy the Jeanie as well cause there’s many rides you cannot have a virtual line for.
So for people that have actual disabilities not allowing them to stand for that extended period of time don’t have access to it anymore and are encouraged to buy genie+? But people that are autistic get access to use it? Seems very weird and fine lines that are being crossed and walked
The DAS is intended and appropriate for someone who cannot WAIT in line, not someone who cannot STAND in line. For those who cannot stand for extended periods of time, a mobility device is appropriate and Disney fulfills this accommodation by making the park wheelchair and scooter accessible and by allowing guests to bring them into the park. That’s all the law requires.
We used DAS when we went with my daughter in 2022. I wondered if they could tell if someone really needs it. Maybe a note from a doctor? Don’t need specific diagnosis but something.
Ok the number of people in comments indicating they get DAS for mobility issues are the problem here. It was NEVER meant for mobility issues. It was always intended for unseen disabilities. You have always had to explain why you cannot wait in line or what the challenges are. The fact they have been approving mobility reasons is wild to me.
Further, you will still need a valid ticket before you can register. They cannot apply it to you without linking it to your ticket. But a broader window to register in would be fantastic. I'm hoping my unseen disability will still qualify me. Oh and I will buy genie+ on top of my DAS if visiting when the parks are extra busy. Not everyone is just trying to "skip lines". That mentality comes from people who dont know how it works.
You're right on it discouraging people from trying. Because we're a family of 5 with autistic child, we won't be trying to get das because we have a larger family than allowed. I know of several larger family's who have canceled their trips now even though they're child is autistic,. We may be canceling ours as well. My daughter and my son who is adhd could use das but now don't qualify because too large of family
The limit is 4 unless your immediate family is larger. They're just trying to discourage extended family and friends tagging along to the DAS pass.
In my experience, I only learned about DAS from TH-camrs. The sharing of information on the topic most likely increased the use of legitimate users and of the abusers. I’m not blaming anyone besides the people that scammed their way into DAS usage.
good point, more people know is likely a contributing factor, but who knows how much that caused. I think also in society we consider more things disabilities and people are more comfortable saying they have a disability. It used to be disability was a bad thing, now everyone claims they have one because society celebrates it.
Maxpass was so much better than what Genie+ is today
I’m curious as to how universals front of the line pass compares to Disney’s genie plus. I’m going to Universal using the front of the line pass this month and it was $100 per person. Does their system work better than the lightning lane system? If so, why doesn’t Disney charge something similar?
I thought the Queue for most rides at Disneyland are not handicapped accessible? How can they have someone in a wheelchair get through the queue?
They can't. Some of the lines are accessible, and they have had wheelchair users go through those for years. But if the line is not accessible, they have to accommodate them. Even if the person can walk, they may not be able to stand for long periods. So until they update the inaccessible lines, they will have to accommodate them like they are now.
@@climateanxiety2825Thats what I was thinking. Sucks that Disney has to do this but I'm glad they are cracking down on the abusers.
This is why they are updating the rides so that wheelchairs can fit in the regular line. DAS pass is not for anyone in a wheelchair or with mobility issues.
Disney is GREEDY! The lines are too long for the rides (standby and Lightning). Disney needs to determine their PROFIT MARGIN with daily number of guests, and CLOSE THE PARK when this number is reached. (They won’t, they’re greedy). If the park can handle 90,000 daily guests, but is profitable at 80,000 guests, limit capacity to 80,000 a day. (again, they won’t). This would reduce ride wait time. Also, Disneyland Forward hopefully will pass, to build MORE attractions, and create MORE walkable land……but don’t raise capacity to 110,000 a day!!!
I see people complaining about the 4 limit. But if being used correctly and the party is given a return time. The people in the group without the special accommodation need could get into line and end up on the ride and off it relatively at the same time as the people with the return time.
yes, good point, but then the people paying for the lightning lane would have additional people in line in front of them if they happened to use it right after the DAS group arrived. Worse case 50 people use DAS get a return time, you pay 30 bucks for the genie and then have to wait an extra 20 minutes even though you paid to skip the line. seems like they should just let DAS go to the front of the standby line and still give fast pass priority, but that is also impossible
The problem here is the queue times are not guaranteed in the regular lines. I’ve been in Space Mountain’s queue where the wait times in the line were over 30 minutes longer than what was previously quoted. This also makes it less likely for guests to want to visit the parks if they cannot have the whole family together to enjoy the experience as a single unit.
BTW if it were just the $30 for me,alone, I would pay it but the CM's at the ride treat me well because I use the system and not abuse it, I am kind to them and thank them for their help..
How can they tell because not everyone has proof of their disability due the country they live in don’t give that out.
Besides the disabled, the only people who should go on the ride are those who have earned it by waiting in line.
Disabled people wait. It's just not in the line.
Max pass was a beautiful thing.
So much misinformation on here i literally just used such pass today and I don’t think I’ve seen one post that was accurate about how it CURRENTLY works. Cast Members need to stay in their lane just because someone doesn’t look disabled doesn’t mean they’re not. Let’s be real you work a queue at an amusement park your not medical professionals. If your mad at anyone it should be corporate their greedy genie pass did this not people who have disabilities.
Hey Fresh Baked!!
I'm a big fan of your new process of hiding your microphone under your hoodie. It gets rid of all those annoying mids & highs in your narration.
After thinking about it overnight, developmental disabilities don’t mean what we think they have meant. Developmental disabilities are disabilities that were developed during the fetal stage, as I understand. This would be a breach of the ADA as it is stated by Disney. I appreciate the abuse by those exploiting the Disney system. Disney is opening themselves up for a huge lawsuit.
Universal has been asking for proof for a long time. Disney can require proof someone needs accommodations. They just can't ask why someone needs accommodations
No. People with other disabilities will get the accommodation that’s appropriate for their needs. Disney has been sued before over disability accommodations. Disney always wins. You’re naive if you think Disney hasn’t researched this extensively.
The bar for disabled has been lowered
There is no way free fast pass on any level is coming back. Other parks charge so much for this same service. Look at Universal. We were spoiled by having it free for so long. I miss it, I want it back, but it’s not going to happen.
I still think Disney's issue with this DAS system is that people who need it can also pay for Genie+ instead. Likely, DAS is hurting Disney's bottom line.
If someone needs it, there shouldn't be an issue. It's the people abusing it that is causing this overflow.
They need to hire people in the disability field to help determine DAS eligibility, not people who aren't familiar with disabilities that may have a bias.
what does this mean for those with diabetes who inject medication multiple times a day? I went to Disney with my family in December and my dad has diabetes that’s not controlled yet so his sugar fluctuates a lot plus he injects himself every now and then and he was able to get a DAS pass. It was super helpful because he gets very tired very fast especially when his levels drop
Side note before anyone comes for me: I know diabetes may not seem as detrimental as other disabilities but it does technically count :/
What this means is unless someone in your family has a developmental disability like autism or similar, they will no longer qualify for DAS.
@@JustASmallTownGirl85 ohh okay gotcha! Interesting thank you!
Knotts Berry Farm is way better with disability access than Disneyland. I have STAGE 4 Pancreatic Cancer and, Knotts Berry Farm let me and 2 guests go to right to their version of fast pass. If the ride didn't have a fast pass, then we went to the ride exit and they let us get on the ride from there. There's no limit on rides also. And, the longest we had to wait for a ride was 10 minutes, and that's because it was the Stage Coach.
People abuse Knott’s wayyyyyyy more then Disneyland and I seen it first hand. Kids, teens and young adults running around with the blue pass.
How did your condition affect your ability to stand in line?
The goal will be to get more Genie Plus money. The lines will still be the same . Disney should have vetted the program better and it would not have been a problem.
i hate seeing groups of 8 going through the das line
Das is abused by genie dodgers for sure the real question is will people used to skipping the line for free now pay for genie because they so addicted 😅
Yes. I had a coworker who used to hire DAS user tour guides. With the crackdown, not only did his family get G+ for their last trip - they even hired a plaid for one day!
i have a disability, i have cervical myelopathy that left me paralyzed, i'm walking again but now it hurts to stand a long amount of time in lines, it starts to feel like a knife in my lower back so DAS is a lifesaver for me . anyone that sees me in the park can see i'm pretty thrashed but i just put up with the pain and not complain about it so i don't ruin other peoples fun that i'm with
sorry to hear
Sign me up. I want to identity as a disabled person so I can use the lightening lane without paying the fee.
You absolutely should in protest.
I am so glad fresh baked didn’t abuse this service like other streamers. Fresh baked would wait in long queues for us Much respect 🫡
I smell a lengthy lawsuit.
For real. This is a huge violation of the ADA. Blame the jerks who abused it.
I can't WAIT until we get the first tearful "We were banned for life for no good reason!" Video only to find out they were faking to use the DAS pass.
That's the detail that does concern me a bit. I doubt anybody is going to be banned for doing it the first time, at least not at first. They'll probably have DAS pass access revoked and be warned that if they do it again that there'll be a permanent ban. The reason I say that is that it's probably going to take a bit of time in order to figure out just how accurate the process is for identifying fakes as some of these conditions are going to have significant minorities of people where reasonable medical professionals differ in their opinions.
Be willing to bet there’s a huge overlap between those abusing DAS and those bringing their non-service animals on a plane.
Yeah, like Brodie the Goldendoodle's owner.
But only one of those groups bother me lol
I have seen a family bring a German Shepherd. I saw one man bring three small
dogs. then I saw the frontier gate agent tell a woman her personal item was too big.
@@rtyughvbn12 On a plane? Because they had to have paid for those dogs. The DOT changed the law. You can take dogs on planes you know.
The core issue here really is the ridiculous lines at Disney and well really just money. They have every ability and clearly the technology needed to keep everyone out of the queue if they wanted. They wont do this, because long lines deter usage and this allows them to pack their park with far greater attendance than they should be allowed to. Whether it is possible or not, every person that pays for a ticket "expects" that they will be able to ride every single ride in the park. They believe "this" is what they are paying for, when in fact they are just paying for the "chance" to ride every single ride. The difference here is being slightly exploited by Disney. They have they technology to schedule rides on every single ride (this "is" DAS as it exists). They experience is significantly better with DAS than without. If you could buy DAS how much would you pay? I would easily pay twice the cost of current Genie+ for the "privilege". This also just highlights that at the core this isn't a "cheating" issue its a "money" issue.
Another issue is how bad of a rip off Genie Plus fast lane is.
Once you use it on a ride your unable to use it on that same ride for the rest of the day,
They act like people don't like to re ride the same.rides in one day.
The previous system would allow this and was roughly the same price, so now they Decreased the value but maintained the same price
@@agentmaine8126 I have a lot of issues with the Genie+. It's just too complicated and unless you're absolutely set on running your entire day around the Genie+ wait times, you can wind up getting very little for your money. As expensive as the Universal equivalent is, you know what you're getting. You will get to use it on every covered ride and attraction and the only way to not to get to use it, is if you leave it until too close to closing time to sit through the much shorter waits.
But, really, Disney should just bring back fastpasses, give everybody that comes some limited number of them per day and it would take a lot of pressure off the DAS and Genie+ to accommodate too many people. They can probably still charge for Genie+, it might just come in the form of additional fastpasses at a time, or having a set number that are set aside until the last minute.
You are right! If you can’t afford the vacation that you want, take a different one! Don’t lie about a disability.
I have ALS and went with my family in December for probably my last trip to Disneyland. I have my wife and 3 kids. It was such a wonderful experience and I honestly wouldn’t have been able to go without it. I don’t feel limiting to autism is the right answer. As stated in the video the real cause of the problem is LL. Not DAS. While I do understand it is abused. I would prefer DAS have some abuse rather than people who need it be denied. If I bought tickets, went to the park and then was denied, I would have to go home and lose the price of my ticket? Don’t hurt the innocent to get back at the abusers.
They always punish the Disabled people instead of the abusers. Always.
I'm glad you had a wonderful time with your family! Take care of yourself, and God bless you and yours.
David said the in person place to apply for DAS will be OUTSIDE the gates, and j guarantee you thats why. They want you to have the info on whether you will be approved or not BEFORE yoh make the choice to enter/purchase/use your ticket.
@@morganstremmel9670people like me purchase in advance in order to get deals
This.
OMG I can’t imagine being one of the front line guest relations cast members. Disney better be hiring extra security too. You know crazy people will lash out at those cast members.
good point, people will just scream they have a disability and expect Disney to believe them and cry about filing a lawsuit even though they don't understand the law.
It happens almost daily. It’s happened dating all the way back to when I first started working at the parks. I always wonder how these people behave when they have to wait in line at a grocery store or if they are stuck in traffic.
It’s being outsourced and Disney will have not be making decisions. Guests won’t even get in the park before approval.
@@Banjo_Tails From what I understand, the folks that they're outsourcing to should have a lot more knowledge about these conditions that people are talking about and should be in a much better situation to filter out, at least the most, BS of the cases. I'm more concerned about how they'll know who is really cheating it and who either has a difficult to properly assess condition or who has a legitimate belief that the condition applies, but not the thousands of dollars it can take to get a formal diagnosis.
I’m autistic. My 3 kids are autistic. While I appreciate that they are updating the system to get rid of fraud, one aspect that they should address is the interview. As an adult on the spectrum, this interview gives me panic attacks and I forget or can even be non-verbal when I have to do it. The interviewer is not usually trained in understanding this type of response, making it more difficult to get a DAS for my family. I like the Dr. note route for that reason. Handing them a note and letting that be it is actually a relief for me. And Dr. notes do not have to contain hippa violations either.
i agree with this. while people have been scared that universal’s system is too complicated etc i’ve found it a lot easier to have myself be pre approved just by a note. for disney, asking for das every 60 days is hard and i’ve had to script a response for me to do it easier. i’m glad it’ll be 120 days now
And their system doesn't even have auto captions and it's too small to read lips!!!
There are so many DAS abusers
I think the unspoken anxiety alot of us parents with family members on the spectrum is that we are constantly having to defend our childs diagnosis every where we go. To be honest Disney has done better than 20 years ago when they would flat out look at my little brother with Autism and say "i dont see anything wrong with him" and dismiss out of hand. But with DAS constantly having to be renewed (as if Autism is going to magically disappear with Tinkerbells fairy dust) to the way they handle wagon strollers for kiddos on the spectrum. The company as a whole is really blind to the autism communitys needs. I just know my 9 year old son who non verbal with autism loves Disneyland, and my hope is they don't subject us to more of the judgement we get almost every day.
sounds like Disney is making a special program just for families like you, doesn't sound like a judgment, sounds like a nice thing to do for you and a reasonable accommodation as required by law, the ADA allows companies to ask for evidence before deciding what accommodation would be reasonable for each situation.
They’re extending the time for registration. It will be longer than 30 days. They do the reregistration in case the needs of the person has changed. I feel it’s understandable to have to reregister if you haven’t been there in a certain amount of time or if the party has changed. You can do it online before you go with a video chat and they let you sign up for your first two rides. The rides have to be in the same park. That might be a better way for some. They’re also putting the registration spot in some of the ticket booths so you can take care of it before entering the parks and then when you enter you can just go wherever you need to go. I feel like this is way better than guest services. Having cast members that are equipped to deal with will also be a good thing.
@@lifewithlulu4056the online registration process is terrible. Because their website couldn’t access my computer’s camera (camera works fine for everything else), it made me wait twice. Then they sent me to someone else to make 2 ride selections. I was on with them a total of 3 hours. Waiting in line at the park would definitely be easier
@@tjtennisicmroll2kthe issue is are the people making those decisions truly qualified to do so why should an autistic person, or the parent of an autistic person have to justify themselves to someone who isn’t an expert on Autism. Autism is a spectrum and some on the spectrum are higher functioning than others or are managing their symptoms better than others who’s to say that high functioning autistic people won’t be lumped in with those who Disney is accusing of abusing the system
@@tjtennisicmroll2kin other words I hope the cast members being hired to deal with this are well trained on what autism is and not just randomly hired with little knowledge of it
It's so sad when things like DAS need to become harder for people who really need it to use it, because of people who misuse it. I experienced DAS for the first time last summer when traveling with my niece with Down Syndrome, and her dad, who has a traumatic brain injury. It was such a big help for them, and we were grateful that it allowed us to still experience rides with them. BUT, I will say that, while DAS was a vacation saver for this family, it was still more difficult experiencing the park with their disabilities than my family usually experiences with lightning lane or just standing in line. In other words, while DAS is wonderful for guests with disabilities, those same disabilities still make their vacations more difficult. This just makes me more angry at people who misuse it just to save some money.
I'm just curious what disabilities will qualify for DAS. The language says Developmental Disability. That means a condition that came upon before the age of 18. So if I understand it correctly, that means people that use PTSD or similar to get DAS will no longer be eligible. I think people who qualify for DAS should need to supply proof from their healthcare provider in order to get it.
I agree if you are asking for the accommodations what's the problem. We supply whatever they need as we need the accommodations and my child's PCP knows it already.