8:44 WaDi my boi, if your girl loves you that much you don’t need to play tourneys anymore. You’ve already won. Edit: Sigh, like most things in my fridge, this did not age well...
This set was so, so, so unbelievably hype. The storyline, the spaghetti, and amazing combos, both players' neutrals and punish game, everything. This set will be remembered for years as one of Ultimate's best, and the game isn't even two months old yet. I hope Leffen keeps grinding in this game.
@Zach M It's based on playing styles. Hbox is a talented player but he is boring af to watch. I've met Hbox and Leff in person, Hbox is by far the better person. Now, it's faulty bc if HBox was playing I'd be rooting for him too, has nothing to do with who I personally like. It has to do more with Melee players showing these Smash 4 scrubs some real gameplay. So, what Leff do to you? It sounds like he hurt your feelings or something...
@Zach M Yeah man and I get that. People hate Mayweather bc that fool boring af, still the champ tho. It's just preference, Hbox is boring but that doesn't take away from being extremely good and it definitely doesn't take away from Leffen. To each their own I suppose
To put it blunt here you go :) On January 25th, 2019, tournament staff of GENESIS 6 unveiled the seeding for the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate portion of the tournament.[1] The next day, top Super Smash Bros. Melee player and prominent SSBU streamer, William "Leffen" Hjelte called out the seeders of the tournament for their bias against European players, comparing the results of top French player "Gluttony" versus top Japanese player "zackray," both players dominating their regions' tournaments, yet the former being seeded far below the latter. After addressing his complaints to the seeding staff of the tournament, one of the staff members made a comparison of Europe to that of penguins in Antarctica, implying that Europe's region holds less skill than that of Japan.
@@shuny3914 an anti-hero but not a villain. practically no one in the melee community has disliked leffen in about 5 years lol, especially since he got his visa, my b'd chillin, won his first major and then more recently won evo. most melee fans even support HBOX in ultimate
There is so many moments where R.O.B. could have killed by Wadi is literally playing Mewtwo with a gyro. Not sure why he chooses to run away during a situation to shoot some projectiles when he has control of the stage. Then at 15:42 he clearly had an upair after Charizard Side B. A couple times he miscalculated the Gyro actually going off stage or forgetting it's on stage.
10:24 "Gyro to Flare Blitz...Who does that!?" lol I'll take a wild guess and say next to no one. You don't exactly get to use Gyro and Flare Blitz in the same match all that often.
Kind of interesting how he doesn't shield the laser or the gyro a lot of the time, even when they're at a distance where you can easily do it reactively.
Both players looking really unfamiliar with the matchup and honestly sometimes that makes for the most exciting to watch matches as both players take turns falling into all of each other's tricks.
It's almost like coming from different backgrounds competitively changes the way they approach the game. Also it's still very evident. Sorry if it triggers your sensitive feelings.
SuperCatacata I was agreeing with the original comment. Can’t believe we still have Melee vs Smash 4 2 months later. Why can’t we all just enjoy this new game.
@@SquidwardProfilePic Tbh, casters are just trying to create a narrative to hype up the game. Especially with people as deep in melee as Leffen (I mean cmon, dude got banned then became #1 for a bit), it's an easy source to add drama to a set. It happens constantly with M2K even though he's literally become top tier in every smash game (maybe not 64, but definitely the others). It's just a fun story of "old game vs new game" that can be talked about.
He seems to use Squirtle when enemy is at low percentages bc squirtle can combo. He switches Ivysour for enemy mid percentages and overall game play due to his balance, strength and spike. He switches to Charizard when enemy is at high percentages so that he can get one hit kills. He also switches to break out of combos. What the commentator referenced as switch air dodge 9:52 as often as he wants.
@@ajmolle6812 you seem to be less up to date than i am. fuck outta here on eventhubs mewto is 8 rob is 34 www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssbu/ falcon is a lot worse in this game. is fatality not playing him in favor of his back up link who happens to be a better character? no, once a player cna call themselves the best at any one character they tend to stick with them. wadi was the best mewto and probably shouldve switched since he was kinda getting bodied and should have tried a different approach.
@@kappanfalcon6981 for sure, but many who actually bother to vote do so not out of sheer character bias Of course someone wins a tourney or gets close with an unorthodox character then they suddenly jump 10 places It is pretty sketch but a 30 place difference doesn't exist for no reason at all
Tho charizard has a much worse matchup against rob than the other two, I agree with you but playing against rob makes the difference in skill look much more exaggerated
1:35 I'm so bad at smash that low tier players crush me. But WaDi def couldve anticipated that shorthop dair. I smelt it from so far away. Its literally PT's edge gaurd. And I've played both chars b4 and R.O.B couldve gone over then down and punished ivy. I'm gonna count that one as an SD. Not hate just saying. I'm still garbage at the game though lol.
So many people hating on Leff because he’s ‘new’ to smash, as in he didn’t play 4. Honestly give the guy a break, if he best Wadi he’s doing something right aha
Can we PLEASE stop the whole 'melee players who didn't play smash 4 have a ball chained to their leg' argument. Smash 4 players have had the same amount of time and the same amount of practice with ultimate. Yes, the game has more similarities to smash 4 than it does to melee, but it's still very different to smash 4.
what's wrong with that comment? fox can kill off the top on yoshi's with upsmash or upthrow upair in melee yoshi's story at ridiculously low percents, and can recover as well as he can recover practically as well as he can on any other stage (maybe even better because of randall) fox mains always take people to yoshis
Because stage selection is always done with respect to a given opponents character AND your own. Not just your own, and not just when youre fox. This was the mistake that the commentator made that a normal melee commentator wouldn't. Fox will take characters to yoshis often for the reasons you mentioned, yes, but there's a reason foxes will hard counter to Pokémon instead of yoshis vs Marth. Marths f smash covers about 1/3 of the whole stage, low platforms make carrying up air juggles significantly easier on yoshis. Fox also loses some higher level tech on yoshis, hax dash is much harder for example. The main reason I laugh though is because yoshis isn't a just a good pick vs certain opponents when you are fox. It's true for nearly any character depending on the matchup. It's good for spacies vs puff, it's good for Marth vs fox, some sheiks prefer it as a neutral start instead of battlefield because of gimp opportunities vs fox and the lowered edges of the stage that make it a little harder for an opponent Marth to hit tipper f smash while you're camping ledge, it's good for alot of the top 8 vs peach. So saying yoshis is good for a fox main is a super simple and flawed way of looking at it. It's more like "yoshis is a good stage depending on how tech heavy your fox is, how heavy the character you're playing against is, if your opponent is juggle heavy in character style, if your opponent doesnt just prefer yoshis for whatever reason (sheik), if you don't have a back pocket secondary that can be effective given the game 1 neutral stage you've just used to learn your opponents tendencies, and if you're not playing Marth in most cases. "
8:44 WaDi my boi, if your girl loves you that much you don’t need to play tourneys anymore.
You’ve already won.
Edit: Sigh, like most things in my fridge, this did not age well...
Thats his girl to the right of Leffen's monitor?
Duke yep. Cinnpie
She plays Ultimate too
Lol guess he has nothing now
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 What happened?
16:50 uhh, Max? There Will Be Blood was a movie.
This set was so hype. I hope he does well against Leo.
He's gonna get killed
Ja Curururur Welp. Fucking rip.
But he did better than alot of other top ultimate players do vs leo. Very good for his first try
@@dennisanderson8017 Yep
For someone who has no Ike exp, he did very well.
This set was so, so, so unbelievably hype. The storyline, the spaghetti, and amazing combos, both players' neutrals and punish game, everything.
This set will be remembered for years as one of Ultimate's best, and the game isn't even two months old yet. I hope Leffen keeps grinding in this game.
You forgot the meatballs.
1 month no one will remember this lol
Watch the Gluttony set vs Leffen if you havent already. My favorite set of Ultimate so far. This is coming from a Leff fan btw.
Can u tell me what storyline means?
storyline? the hell does that mean? this isnt WWE.
Never been so hype for Leffen, a villain in Melee now the underdog in Ultimate.
@Zach M lol yeah in Melee, but he my dude in Ultimate.
@Zach M That's a faulty comparison but ok.
lol hbox fans are so fucking annoying
@Zach M It's based on playing styles. Hbox is a talented player but he is boring af to watch. I've met Hbox and Leff in person, Hbox is by far the better person. Now, it's faulty bc if HBox was playing I'd be rooting for him too, has nothing to do with who I personally like. It has to do more with Melee players showing these Smash 4 scrubs some real gameplay. So, what Leff do to you? It sounds like he hurt your feelings or something...
@Zach M Yeah man and I get that. People hate Mayweather bc that fool boring af, still the champ tho. It's just preference, Hbox is boring but that doesn't take away from being extremely good and it definitely doesn't take away from Leffen. To each their own I suppose
Absolutely disgusting play by Leffen at 15:22. Daaaaaamn
Man, I wish Leffen was still going strong in competitive Ultimate. He’s fun to watch.
Same, Leffen was so fun to watch in ultimate, he’s just different in this game, it’s cool
I love WaDi but this win was necessary for the culture. Let’s go Leff!
this is the perfect comment here.
just flawless
leff and culture togheter in the same sentence is the biggest joke in earth atleast haha
I'd have to say these Penguins are pretty phenomenal at becoming pokemon masters.
?
Look deep into twitter for the answer. You'll understand when you find out.
I don't have twitter and am a penguin enthusist, would you humor me with some context? :)
To put it blunt here you go :)
On January 25th, 2019, tournament staff of GENESIS 6 unveiled the seeding for the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate portion of the tournament.[1] The next day, top Super Smash Bros. Melee player and prominent SSBU streamer, William "Leffen" Hjelte called out the seeders of the tournament for their bias against European players, comparing the results of top French player "Gluttony" versus top Japanese player "zackray," both players dominating their regions' tournaments, yet the former being seeded far below the latter. After addressing his complaints to the seeding staff of the tournament, one of the staff members made a comparison of Europe to that of penguins in Antarctica, implying that Europe's region holds less skill than that of Japan.
This was the hypest Ultimate set I have ever seen so far!!!!!!!!!!!
LET'S GOOOOO LEFF, all Melee players are rooting for you
Zabdiel Espejel Not inherently true since he's an anti-hero of Melee but okay.
Leffens an asshole
@@shuny3914 an anti-hero but not a villain. practically no one in the melee community has disliked leffen in about 5 years lol, especially since he got his visa, my b'd chillin, won his first major and then more recently won evo. most melee fans even support HBOX in ultimate
@@AlexRoseGames What? At G6 people were rooting "fuck hbox"...
@J Lebleu I might be ashamed if the game wasn't so great.
I love that people be hating on leffen and he be out here showing out
Why is he hated he’s like my fav smash player
Leffen nice asf. I love rewatching his old runs in ultimate. He was so good.
what did leffen said when he poped off?
I hear this guy is gargantuan... or maybe it was galactic? Definitely not moderately sized that's all I know
Matt Spain Think your looking for slightly above average sized Leff
The term you're looking for is sizable swede.
That was an excellent match, i had a feeling Leffen would take the win but WaDi didn't lose without a great fight
THAT'S MY DAWG
There is so many moments where R.O.B. could have killed by Wadi is literally playing Mewtwo with a gyro. Not sure why he chooses to run away during a situation to shoot some projectiles when he has control of the stage. Then at 15:42 he clearly had an upair after Charizard Side B. A couple times he miscalculated the Gyro actually going off stage or forgetting it's on stage.
3:27 thought the shadow on charizard's neck was his mouth horribly clipping out and stretching
16:01 Would up-b here have been true or does it have too much startup?
I believe up b there would have just made him lose his recovery and fall to his death, but I'm not sure
10:24 "Gyro to Flare Blitz...Who does that!?"
lol I'll take a wild guess and say next to no one. You don't exactly get to use Gyro and Flare Blitz in the same match all that often.
MkLeo didn't look happy. Does he dislike Leffen for some reason?
Leff picked up smash this year
Biggest win for Leffen in Ultimate!
Leffen with the Snoop Dogg level handshake transition at the end.
Shoutouts to the man at 16:50 who walked up to the stage trying to get an autograph
Kind of interesting how he doesn't shield the laser or the gyro a lot of the time, even when they're at a distance where you can easily do it reactively.
CINNPIE IN SHAMBLES
A whole year too early
Profetic... xd
Damn, I can't believe WaDi got beat by someone who doesn't even play Smash Bros.
And a penguin no less
He plays smash bros melee 🙄
@@sykesmau5 🙄
@@xProjectMyst r/(insert wind noise of a joke/reference going over someone's head)
My gosh I was screaming and jumping out of my seat when watching this live. Leffen is the best
i wonder what leffen said to the crowd after beating wadi :0
After each round they move their chairs to look at the middle. What's going on in the middle there?
John Ryan
i think it’s a layout of the smash stages, probably banning or what not
Both players looking really unfamiliar with the matchup and honestly sometimes that makes for the most exciting to watch matches as both players take turns falling into all of each other's tricks.
God stop with the game vs game mentality and just play some ultimate wtf.
Yung Wun Can’t believe we’re still doing this 2 months after the game’s release. Ridiculous.
It's almost like coming from different backgrounds competitively changes the way they approach the game. Also it's still very evident.
Sorry if it triggers your sensitive feelings.
@@SuperCatacata just because you're a leffen fan doesn't mean you have to be edgy lol.
SuperCatacata I was agreeing with the original comment. Can’t believe we still have Melee vs Smash 4 2 months later. Why can’t we all just enjoy this new game.
@@SquidwardProfilePic Tbh, casters are just trying to create a narrative to hype up the game. Especially with people as deep in melee as Leffen (I mean cmon, dude got banned then became #1 for a bit), it's an easy source to add drama to a set.
It happens constantly with M2K even though he's literally become top tier in every smash game (maybe not 64, but definitely the others). It's just a fun story of "old game vs new game" that can be talked about.
How does he know when he should switch and when he shouldn’t and how often?
He seems to use Squirtle when enemy is at low percentages bc squirtle can combo.
He switches Ivysour for enemy mid percentages and overall game play due to his balance, strength and spike.
He switches to Charizard when enemy is at high percentages so that he can get one hit kills.
He also switches to break out of combos. What the commentator referenced as switch air dodge 9:52
as often as he wants.
Wadi's GF in the front row cheering on her man
SO CUTE
Edit: out of all my TH-cam comments, this one probably aged the worst
Read this as "wadi's grand finals", I've really jumped off the deep end havent I?
@@FoziVideos You're not the only one
Biiig yikes now
@@florianraimond3173 yep. The yikes have certainly intensified for me on this one.
This was a great set, and it was only top 64. Can’t way to see what’s up next.
How does he recover from the ledge with an aerial like that?
haystax864 nice bait
At 13:12 I'm guessing he changes to charizard because his aerials are safer on shield
WaDi is my hero
Honestly watching leffen play is a work of art. He inspires my playstyle.
Up air 5 times in a row. True art.
You should get a better playstyle then
Feel bad for WaDi, I think he got tilted after that SD
Cinnpie so supportive bestpie
An extremely strong and disrespectful player VS The best rob player 🔥
I dont know why this killed me so much but “hitbox the move” was hilarious
The Bulbasaur dair freeze frame is so hype
The best match I've seen so far hands down.
I'm a trainer main so watching leff is awesome but dude.....wadi's rob is soooooo fun to watch
why does wadi not play mewto anymore
mewto seems even better in this iteration
Mewtwo is pretty different and as far as I know, WaDi doesn't like it anymore/likes ROB way better.
You're not up to date, ROB is top tier in this game, m2 is mid tier
@@ajmolle6812 you seem to be less up to date than i am. fuck outta here
on eventhubs
mewto is 8
rob is 34
www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssbu/
falcon is a lot worse in this game. is fatality not playing him in favor of his back up link who happens to be a better character? no, once a player cna call themselves the best at any one character they tend to stick with them. wadi was the best mewto and probably shouldve switched since he was kinda getting bodied and should have tried a different approach.
Seijen you know eventhubs is pretty useless since anyone can vote and this game just came out so no one really knows who the best is yet
@@kappanfalcon6981 for sure, but many who actually bother to vote do so not out of sheer character bias
Of course someone wins a tourney or gets close with an unorthodox character then they suddenly jump 10 places
It is pretty sketch but a 30 place difference doesn't exist for no reason at all
Those TSM chants are always hype.
What an amazing set.
Lets gooo im so hype for BIG LEFF
I feel like Leffen still needs to work on his Charizard, it’s so much weaker than his other two Pokémon
Tho charizard has a much worse matchup against rob than the other two, I agree with you but playing against rob makes the difference in skill look much more exaggerated
Isn't Charzard considered by many the worst of the 3? I really wish he had his rock smash move from smash4.
@@marcus21. having flareblitz instead of rock smash hurts him alot...
Charizard sucks
its more charizard being super weak as a character than being weak in leffens hands
why nobody uses robs side b. Nevermind 5:40
My boy is going to be facing MKLeo next if he can take one game that would be nice
he actually did it the absolute madman
I feel like this crowd was only this big cause alot of melee boys went over to support our boy
I'm so bummed Leffen stopped playing Ultimate
1:35 I'm so bad at smash that low tier players crush me. But WaDi def couldve anticipated that shorthop dair. I smelt it from so far away. Its literally PT's edge gaurd. And I've played both chars b4 and R.O.B couldve gone over then down and punished ivy. I'm gonna count that one as an SD. Not hate just saying. I'm still garbage at the game though lol.
This set was hype as hell
That round 3 SD cost wadi his usual moment style of projectile walling to (and yes i'm aware of the small stage)
10:00 Man I had no clue what happened there I had to rewind to even see
So many people hating on Leff because he’s ‘new’ to smash, as in he didn’t play 4. Honestly give the guy a break, if he best Wadi he’s doing something right aha
fluxy888 no they’re just making fun of Salem
Such a good set, great commentators too
i bet wadi thought leff was gonna be free LUL
@1:20 that mash out tho.
Commentators totally missed it.
rob's bury is the easiest in the game to mash out of
Wheres the side B wadi? One of R.O.B's best moves.
Me looking at the time after game 3:
Oh...RIP...
Did anybody catch Big Leff avoid the top at 2:35!? 0.0
Leffen actually played brawl he knows about rob
Leff HAS NEVER played SMASH IN HIS LIFE and he beat WaDi
Fastest mash at 1:20
rob's bury is the easiest in the game to mash out of
Why does Leff look like he’s gonna puke when he’s playing 😂
Miggy he was on a hangover w/ mang0
16:47 Dang that salt on purple jacket guy. lol.
Way to go Leffen show him what's up haha
beautiful match
Wait is rob good?
It's mostly WaDi
Damn if Wadi did SD he prob could’ve won that match up
Didnt look that way
Can we PLEASE stop the whole 'melee players who didn't play smash 4 have a ball chained to their leg' argument. Smash 4 players have had the same amount of time and the same amount of practice with ultimate. Yes, the game has more similarities to smash 4 than it does to melee, but it's still very different to smash 4.
BuIIetBiII Nah not really Chief
Smash 4 players have more match up experience. Melee players do not have this advantage
tbh this set is all the proof I need that ivysaur dair needs a fat nerf
I love smash 4 commentators lol 9:40 "especially as a fox main" 😂😂
what's wrong with that comment? fox can kill off the top on yoshi's with upsmash or upthrow upair in melee yoshi's story at ridiculously low percents, and can recover as well as he can recover practically as well as he can on any other stage (maybe even better because of randall)
fox mains always take people to yoshis
Because stage selection is always done with respect to a given opponents character AND your own. Not just your own, and not just when youre fox. This was the mistake that the commentator made that a normal melee commentator wouldn't. Fox will take characters to yoshis often for the reasons you mentioned, yes, but there's a reason foxes will hard counter to Pokémon instead of yoshis vs Marth. Marths f smash covers about 1/3 of the whole stage, low platforms make carrying up air juggles significantly easier on yoshis. Fox also loses some higher level tech on yoshis, hax dash is much harder for example. The main reason I laugh though is because yoshis isn't a just a good pick vs certain opponents when you are fox. It's true for nearly any character depending on the matchup. It's good for spacies vs puff, it's good for Marth vs fox, some sheiks prefer it as a neutral start instead of battlefield because of gimp opportunities vs fox and the lowered edges of the stage that make it a little harder for an opponent Marth to hit tipper f smash while you're camping ledge, it's good for alot of the top 8 vs peach. So saying yoshis is good for a fox main is a super simple and flawed way of looking at it. It's more like "yoshis is a good stage depending on how tech heavy your fox is, how heavy the character you're playing against is, if your opponent is juggle heavy in character style, if your opponent doesnt just prefer yoshis for whatever reason (sheik), if you don't have a back pocket secondary that can be effective given the game 1 neutral stage you've just used to learn your opponents tendencies, and if you're not playing Marth in most cases. "
Lonny Hennessy bro wtf you have way too much time on your hands lmao
@@rus2thes0uL lol you can't throw out a roast for someone knowing something in a thread about a competitive hobby
Such a hype set of only Wadi didn't SD the 3rd game
Sucks but it’s part of the game
The hype !!!
*Salem then proceeds to call WaDi free in an attempt to talk down leffen's accomplishments at G6*
He still outplaced him
Wadi SD at the start of the match. Paid actor
WHAT A MATCH
BIG LEFF OUT TO REPRESENT
PEOPLE OF SMASH, LEND ME YOUR FRAMEDATA!
Pokemon trainer girl is so cute. 😍
This a great set but damn thats slot of people there.
This is a battle of my 2mains
Wadi senpai train hard and come back
FUCK YEAH BIG LEFF GG'S!
these commentators were great
Im just waiting for leffen to face the Smash 4 gods. Salem,Anti,Ally,Nairo,Leo,Tweek,Void lets see what the people say if he goes through them.
Half of them are out. Leffen too, but he went pretty far for a guy who just started playing smash
Lol, Anti doesn't belong in discussion with those other dudes. Replace Anti with Larry
@HoustonMade01 Dude you come from the future. How the hell was he supposed to know?
Atta boy Leff. You represent with that Pokemon Trainer ✊
I love that Leffen isn't the villain anymore.
He is but he isn't. He's the people's villain
He's an anti-hero
Big Leff is coming to a theater near you, 2019.
Big freakin Leff
Finally a Charizard doing something
Fun set