I’m currently housebound so rely on Royal Mail who collect my parcels for free. I can’t be driving around to different couriers. I really hope we can opt out.
So sorry to hear you are housebound and although I'm not in a similar position, I do rely on Royal Mail collections as I don't like driving round (wasting petrol) looking to drop off parcels with other courier companies. The items I sell are below £10 so it's really not worth the petrol or the stress.
Good changes. Saves a lot of time. Saves you VAT treshold, as you're not taking money for postage. As far, as I understand. Question is: will we still pay FVF on postage. I don't think so, but I'm not sure. I pack my stuff as I photograph it, so I know right away the weight and dimentions. Store it packed, so it's more safe from a handling damage. When it's sold, I pick by the SKU that is on packaging. If you opt in only for RM, then your customer only be able to choose RM. Like on Vinted. They won't be able to choose Yodel, as you won't opt in for it. If ebay doesn't pusnish you now for not offering Yodel, then it shouldn't after the changes. But we'll see. For missing parcel, seller is always responsible. I can't see it being different.
Completely agree, it’s brilliant from VAT point of view and in general less accounting to do as you won’t receive postage money into your account. I thought about the exact same thing regarding paying fees on postage. Surely not?? But knowing eBay.. I won’t be surprised… As long as eBay lets us choose which providers we want to use then this will be a game changer!
I agree with this, I am very jealous of you pre packing your items, wish I had done that from the off. The main issue for me is I ship my items freepost. So will have to review every item and adjust the price to stay competitive. If the buyer is now paying postage at their end.
@@ashschannel5024 That's true. Maybe, there will be an option where, if you provide free post, then you'll pay for it, without buyer being involved. That would make sense, although ebay actions seldom make sense. I wonder what all those sellers with 50k items will do. They'll have to go, assess and update the postage on all of them.
@@polish_pete_uk same thing! I only have Evri and DPD in my tiny village, driving for miles to drop off 1 parcel is going to be impossible! Let’s hope eBay still has some common sense 😆
I agree about the changes but don't think the fees are too bad. They are running a business that amongst other things generates a lot of foot fall and also absorbs a lot of costs from bad buyers (and sellers!). Hate this new policy but overall still mostly happy with eBay as a whole. 🤷🏻
ebay is dying for sure, it feels like its almost becoming an ioffer type site. Less buyers also, and ebay know this. Amazon and other sites are taking over
Great find guys! I'm always open to changes as you have to adapt in business or get left behind. I do prefer it when buyers buy their own labels and all I have to do is print it off. As long as we get to choose which courier companies we do & don't want to use then it shouldn't be too bad 👍🏻
That's all well and good, but has anyone else noticed Evri has gotten hella expensive since just after Xmas? It used to be about £4 to send a jacket, it's now gone up to about £6.50. I switched back to Royal Mail. Evri don't even bother to deliver half the time, it gets stuffed behind a bin and there's no one to speak to when there's a problem.
@@rjwilki3 the insurance comes as standard with RM too up to £120, other couriers attach a Premium. I was paying signature every time with Evri just to make sure the parcels actually get handed to a person (which is silly really, isn't it?) and not get thrown on the doorstep etc.
Oh crepes I’ll definitely be opting out. I’m disabled and Royal Mail collection is the only way for me to get post out quickly. Thanks for the heads up.
After 20 years of selling on eBay i stopped selling on there a few months ago because of things like this, i get things change with times but eBay are changing things that is not needed and to the cost of sellers, i just came across your TH-cam channel and very impressed with your content, best of luck to you both :)
My daughter sells on Vinted and they let her opt out of postage options; she chooses Royal Mail and Evri, and most of her buyers choose Evri. I wouldn't use Evri for my ebay if they paid me!
I'm so glad I saw your video randomly on here! I've been selling on ebay for just over 7 years but this week I made the decision to jack it in. The selling experience on ebay has changed so much in my time on there and not for the better. There is never any consultation with sellers at all before these ridiculous changes happen. I'm not a business but I do have an above average performance and 100% positive feedback but I'm so far fown the listings now it's pointless. I feel they have moved so far away ftom the platform they once were. It really isn't worth the bother anymore, so I shall be taking whatever is left of my listings to a charity shop. Good luck to you going forward. 😊
Just like the recent no-fees-on-clothing change, this new change shows again that eBay are feeling threatened by Vinted. Competition is good but I suspect the fees will be the last thing to be reduced, if at all. Thanks for the heads-up!
Thanks for the info and update, as someone who has and only uses a Royal Mail business account apart form larger items this sounds like it will be a complete headache
Thanks for taking the time to check the new terms and conditions - I started reading but lost the will to live ! It all sounds pretty confusing but I guess we will see. I think they will have to allow sellers to opt out of certain delivery methods as some just don't have nearby drop off points so it would be difficult to manage. With regards to Evri I do use them for breakables and so far no issues but I do wrap, and double wrap to make sure things survive most things, but that comes onto the point you made that you don't always know the size until you have wrapped it.
Great content and update guys, many thanks, I will have to feed this out to the community on my channel too, people need to know about this massive change and blurry updating from ebay. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work :)
I haven't used RM for years I only use Yodel Direct as I work full time and sell on eBay as a second job and I can drop my parcels in the evening as ht drop off shop is open until 11pm never had any issues and everything is fully tracked an insured and I dont want to waste my lunch break queuing at the post office for 30 minutes If you dont drive I would opt out as your going to struggle running around to the different postal options
I will opt out. Like you I sell breakables and have to adjust postage sometimes. Also I don’t have DPD or Yodel nearby so I don’t use them. EBay are so reactive - they copy the competition instead of trying to make things work better for them. I wonder if they are actually struggling a bit. Feels like panic is setting in
I think if eBay can do it right, and give us all the options we need, then it could be a good thing to keep below the VAT threshold for a little longer.
I have been reselling on eBay for 17 years using Royal Mail, if you can't opt out of this my eBay reselling days are over. eBay seem to be making it as difficult as possible for resellers.
Hi, I'm not a full time reseller - purely sell my own things (got plenty to get rid of 😥) and enjoy watching your videos. This weekend I sold a couple of DVD sets and set the postage as £4.25 however, when I went to print off the label eBay showed the postage was £5.85 😠 and there was nothing I could do to change the system. Not a happy bunny here!
Again Ebay give no consideration whatsoever to the sellers and the practicalities of their 'improvements'. If this becomes mandatory not optional ( which is quite possible with Ebay ) I wonder how many sellers will just throw the towel in. It seems to me that Ebay are completely oblivious to the fact that without sellers....................there is no Ebay!. The fewer sellers there are, the less items are listed, the less choice buyers have, so buyers go elsewhere. Ebay for sure is run by college leavers with no business acumen whatsoever.
the big issue for me is that we still buy the label which I assume means we will have to sort out issues, even if we have had no choice over which delivery option is chosen by the buyer/ebay.
Great video, good find. This might be something to do with eBay Live thing they are working on. They always seem to find ways to make it more difficult to sell on eBay amd charge us for the convenience. You guys have earned a new sub!
I sell breakables and large paintings and absolutely like you, by the time I package my stuff it’s often tipping over into over 2kg just because of the amount of packaging. I pretty much exclusively use Evri - yep even for breakables and the idea of driving around town for different deliveries fills me with dread = who has time for that?! I am also more concerned that you’ll get pushed down the algorithms for not opting in.
Just sold a large item and buyer had selected 24 hour delivery at £17 instead of £8 delivery which was paid for on the listing and I couldn't see any way to change it. Also noticed that in post has popped up now as a delivery option - have had bad experience with this in the past so don't want buyers to be selecting that.
i have never put the size and weight into the listing..because like you say with hard goods its impossible ..it will more than likely be rolled out for clothing
Post Office will not accept parcels that are incorrectly labelled weight or size. Re things not to like..... personally I add signed for service for items over £25 sold price. Obviously this adds cost to delivery. Does that mean buyer can buy items without signed for service because they do not want to pay extra. Further, at the moment I do not worry about what shipping service is shown in the listing, I select best deal (for me) at time of shipping. Now here is another thing like "specifics" that adds significantly to my listing workload / costs. Does anybody at ebay ever understand or even consider how these "feature" changes impact the seller. I think not.
Yes, these are really good points, sellers are far better at gauging what’s best in terms of service. I’d rather choose the service, not leave it down to the customer.
Thx for the heads up. This sounds like a headache in the making so I would probably opt out if possible. I’ve been selling a few things on Vinted recently as an experiment and must say this aspect of the selling process (ie allowing the customer to choose postage method, then having to go to multiple postage locations) is the most concerning. I had previously decided to stop using Inpost, Evri etc for my eBay sales so to have it forced upon me on Vinted isn’t ideal, but I’ve only sold a few things so far (clothing and shoes - definitely no breakables or vintage items) so not a problem yet. Just waiting for the first time an item goes missing or seriously delayed - what happens then? My experience of Packlink or other courier customer service was appalling on problems when selling on eBay, hence the reason to stop using them. To have this same issue for all my eBay sales too would be a real pain.
The page has had a few updates including: “Simple Delivery is currently only available for private sellers in the UK selling items in certain categories. Both item and buyer delivery addresses must be in the UK, as the labels are only available for UK carriers.” Can I opt out of Simple Delivery? Yes, you can opt out of Simple Delivery when you’re creating the listing. Let’s hope when they roll it out to Business sellers that there’s a global opt out so it doesn’t have to be done item by item!
I sell on Vinted as well as Ebay and so much of Vinted sales go to the lockers, the trouble is there always full. If Ebay opts to offer the lockers how the hell will we ever get an empty locker to post it?
Gosh, well done for Simon for reading the T & C's and noticing that. Personally, I'm not a fan of this as I currently don't drive and it's a pain to get to pracel drop off points - it's so much easier having Royal Mail collect parcels at the door. As long as they give the option to opt out of it, hopefully it will be okay.
I'll opt out as i have a account with parcelforce and its all extra work. Lets face it when you pack a parcel it can often get bigger. I deal in a lot of bigger items too like hifi and vintage electronic stuff so i want to choose who i trust
Excellent channel, very informative and genuine business resellers unlike some fraud TH-cam resellers with multiple private eBay accounts, (resellergeorge cough cough) keep up the excellent content.
Thanks for the info re: postal costs. Maybe best not to enter item dimensions/weights at all so they have nothing to go on ? No chance I'd continue selling on Ebay if I can't avoid this "Simple delivery" nonsense. I suspect it would only be inflicted for those categories where they have to compete against Vinted, & I'm not in that lot.
@@Married2Reselling Aaah, I don't sell abroad, though for every item I list, by default Ebay pre-specifies GSP, have to opt out each time. Don't need the aggravation of worrying about whethjer a foreign buyer has understood my description - selling used laptops, it's critical there are no misunderstandings about state/condition of item. Bad enough with some UK buyers
A question for you - not related to your video - but when you pick up for example a set of 6 cups saucers and side plates would you sell as the set of 6, or 6 individual trios or ?? Just wondered with your experience what you think would be an easier sell.
It might depend what they are… were usually swayed by what others have done, if there’s any history. We sell more single trios I think than sets, allowing people to choose the number they need.
As a buyer mostly I don’t want to make another decision as to how my parcel arrives anyway. I simply want to choose an item and let the rest happen. If as a buyer I choose my postal option - who is then liable for a postal issue? Seems like yet more confusion and from the sellers point of view - more time wasted. You sellers have your own system and as a buyer I’ve always been happy with that.
So if you need a bigger parcel label at the post office, will they charge you the cost for a new label AND EBay charge the extra too? Really does feel complicated. Hopefully people who rely on parcel doorstep collections will be able to opt out
I weigh my items before I put a postage charge on the listing, I keep an old set of scales next to the computer where I’m listing so that I can do that and get the postage right ,I don’t wanna overcharge buyers same as I wouldn’t wanna be overcharged. I think eBay are partly doing this because there are too many sellers that over charge, simply because they can’t be bothered to find out how much it weighs and how much the item is gonna cost to send. I only use Royal mail now I have an account with them, I book the parcels in myself and then they collect the next day I have not had any issues since using them. 😊
My question is with certain items such as glass, battery operated, liquid, Evri its prohibited. So who is responsible for that if someone chooses evri for such items. You can't get a refund for it if broken, leaked. Sound like a headache to me.
Paused video to write this so you may talk about it later but what about selling fees? At the moment they charge us selling fees on the item plus the postage. If it is more similar to Vinted where the buyer doesn’t even see the postage money, surely we can’t pay fees based on the postage charge as well?
I already offer free postage on all of my listings, so presumably this new change means the buyer will pay postage on top of the list price? And this will be clear at the point of listing so that I can price accordingly? Obviously the customer shouldn't be able to select more expensive options at our expense that would be silly. Vinted get away with this because sellers can force their buyers to pay return postage fees...even when they lied about condition! (but that's a seperate issue)
Yeah great point… the free postage question is bending my brain, can’t work out what will happen. When I get a spare hour I’m going to try to work out how that might work.
I use Royal Mail because they have the best compensation fee up to £150 so if I sell an item for over £20 I definitely don't want someone going cheap delivery and me being screwed if it goes missing or ends up damaged! Sounds like a bad idea! I recently sent an item to the States and although ebay handles global shipping they still charged me 20% of the buyers import fee, that's nothing to do with me I didn't even see it as the fee went straight to ebay, go figure!
I did that as well turned up at the post office with a bag full of parcels with no labels on 😬😬 I will be opting out of this nonsense, only use RM as like you guys my evri shop is 7 miles away and PO is a mile away and I prefer RM to Evri but can see problems ahead esp if they are like parcel2go with their fines...Also RM has been sold so who only knows what is ahead of us with that, most likely an erosion of services and more cost cutting.
A few thoughts I think post office will be accepting other couriers It maybe just locker based to be more convenient Some couriers don't accept breakables
Great shout, hopefully something in place to auto combine items. However, that won’t work for some products I wouldn’t imagine (eg size or weight just too large, or funny shapes etc to bundle up when packing). Like if you had to pack a golf club with a TV 🤣🤔
Sounds like it would be a nightmare for volume sellers with courier accounts .Can't see World of books messing about with multiple couriers The increased cost in man hours alone plus the discount they've negotiated with their courier contract . I should think this is aimed more at the casual seller who sells a few items a month . other sellers me included who have a royal mail account will surely be able to opt out . Ebay labels may disappear though and this may replace it .
Typical of EBay to do everything the complicated way! I like the way Vinted& Depop do postage but I can see so many complications doing it on EBay. It’s bad enough with extra postage fees for areas like BT and remote Scottish islands if you use Evri.
It’s said that your item will get higher up the search in ‘best match’ with free postage, we do about 50% of our items with free postage and the rest with postage added.
I think uts been rolled out in the US... In my opinion it would not be good and will be opting out as soon as.... Will be interesting to see what kind of effect it will have on my Ebay account.... Ebay dead atm for me and it perks up two weeks of the month..... I have started doing carboots again and doing pretty well !
is this just for UK or is it planned for the states too? this sounds like a nightmare and would likely put me out of business. ebay just wouldn't be worth it if I had to measure each item, drive around to different shippers, blah blah ....this is really a bad idea and sellers need to voice concerns.
I live in the middle of nowhere, in Scotland. I only use Royal Mail and that is a thirty mile round trip. If i was forced to use other couriers as well, it would make my business unviable.
I feel like if they’re adding it to the tc&cs, they should have at least given the opt out button for the time being, so we could decide later if there’s any other parts that might work for some of us
This is how I do it charge 5.10p for second class recorded wrap the item up when it sells , take it to the post office, they weigh it and tell me it's 5.10 for second class recorded and away it goes , reciept in had for the recorded delivery away I go. If I think the item it heavier I charge on the listing 9.97 if it is less than this at the post office I refund the difference to the buyer as a partial refund. For postage 😊 thats it basically except for games and dvds they are 3.50 because ebay wont let you cuarge more than this on listing so I cover the extra . So tend to send them out in lots opposed to single games so as to cover it better. I only use Rolay mail and I only send second class recorded or if very expensive I do next day special delivery, it takes away any stress when posting and you know most of your items costs. 😊 Royal mail cover you on second class recorded and so do ebay when you upload the tracking number 😊
I used to do the same 2nd class record but switched to yodel best thing I ever did Take yesterday for example I sold a pair of jeans via global shipping to USA I think ..I realised I sent wriong size jeans at around 8 pm I went to live chat on App spoke to a call called Zara she arranged for the parcel in transit to be sent back to my home address Try getting RM to do that for you at 8pm on a Friday night ..not bad for £2,50 as well
Can’t you just either assume everything will be medium and size accordingly or, add extra postage to your item price… or all the postage and offer free postage?
I would think of you added medium sizing to the listing, eBay would then make the postage charge less appealing to the potential customer. The free postage thing is confusing me though.
We do that already in most instances. It’s not an issue for us. But the issue with the new ‘simple’ postage isn’t the cost implication, it’s whether eBay can produce the right label for the size of the parcel.
Pro - could help a lot of people circa VAT threshold. Con - potentially sellers wont have the wiggle room to incorporate postage insurance into the listing postage policy. Especially bad for sellers that sell a smaller / lighter item that has a high price. Lots of cons a couple of pros... Eitherway I'll be opting out ASAP. Great vid folks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
selling something for £4+post ... considering the Ebay fees, pkging materials, time spent photo-ing & listing, also label-printing/packing/handling time etc ... couldn't justify it for a one-off item. Only multiple identicals work really for such low profit levels *for me*. Otherwise it's just a "labour of love" & into the realms of the "hobby seller" to my mind. Maybe you can streamline the listing/packing time ? Also with one-off items, can be difficult with medium-t large items to source cheap & secure packaging material And you have a proportion of Ebayers making stupid enquiries/offers etc to eat in to your time. And the returns, scammers to factor in. I even bought a load of identical new items for £2 each, & even when selling for £10 delivered through Ebay, I ended up losing out due to fees, P&P, returns, & the time taken to photo, list, pack, despatch, deal with enquiries.
EBay is dying for the last 6-8 months. I’ve literally had no sales, Vinted on the other hand, has exploded. I’m averaging about 8-10 sales a week. I did sell a limited edition Funko Pop last week on eBay, for £55, eBay took 9 quid off me in fees then I have to pay for postage. Awful, I’m slowly leaving behind behind
I use Royal Mail for all my posting on my business and personal ebay I have discounted rates because of the amount we send out daily we also have our mail collected by RM everyday, I will be opting out of this straight away, another Ebay rubbish idea trying to copy other platforms rather than keeping to what has made the platform great
How exciting! poorly thought out change by eBay. Who would have thought it?😬🤣 Many thanks for making the effort to read & highlighting this, I did see the T&C update email come in the other week but couldn’t be arsed to read it 👍🏼
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I’m currently housebound so rely on Royal Mail who collect my parcels for free. I can’t be driving around to different couriers. I really hope we can opt out.
I'm the same. Frankly, if we can't use Royal Mail's collect service I'll be looking to see if Ebay are breaking any disability discrimination laws.
So sorry to hear you are housebound and although I'm not in a similar position, I do rely on Royal Mail collections as I don't like driving round (wasting petrol) looking to drop off parcels with other courier companies. The items I sell are below £10 so it's really not worth the petrol or the stress.
I will definitely opt out if possible as I live a long way from any drop off points other than Royal Mail.
Good changes. Saves a lot of time. Saves you VAT treshold, as you're not taking money for postage. As far, as I understand.
Question is: will we still pay FVF on postage. I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
I pack my stuff as I photograph it, so I know right away the weight and dimentions. Store it packed, so it's more safe from a handling damage. When it's sold, I pick by the SKU that is on packaging.
If you opt in only for RM, then your customer only be able to choose RM. Like on Vinted. They won't be able to choose Yodel, as you won't opt in for it. If ebay doesn't pusnish you now for not offering Yodel, then it shouldn't after the changes. But we'll see.
For missing parcel, seller is always responsible. I can't see it being different.
Completely agree, it’s brilliant from VAT point of view and in general less accounting to do as you won’t receive postage money into your account.
I thought about the exact same thing regarding paying fees on postage. Surely not?? But knowing eBay.. I won’t be surprised…
As long as eBay lets us choose which providers we want to use then this will be a game changer!
@@kazutik surely, it has to let us. I've got the closest yodel drop off like 3 miles from home. I'm not going to drive 6 miles with one parcel.
I agree with this, I am very jealous of you pre packing your items, wish I had done that from the off.
The main issue for me is I ship my items freepost. So will have to review every item and adjust the price to stay competitive. If the buyer is now paying postage at their end.
@@ashschannel5024 That's true. Maybe, there will be an option where, if you provide free post, then you'll pay for it, without buyer being involved. That would make sense, although ebay actions seldom make sense.
I wonder what all those sellers with 50k items will do. They'll have to go, assess and update the postage on all of them.
@@polish_pete_uk same thing! I only have Evri and DPD in my tiny village, driving for miles to drop off 1 parcel is going to be impossible! Let’s hope eBay still has some common sense 😆
Ebay will be dead soon, instead of Bullshit changes , maybe reduce the fees instead
I agree about the changes but don't think the fees are too bad. They are running a business that amongst other things generates a lot of foot fall and also absorbs a lot of costs from bad buyers (and sellers!).
Hate this new policy but overall still mostly happy with eBay as a whole. 🤷🏻
technichly it is reducing the fees a bit because they can't charge you fees on the postage
ebay is dying for sure, it feels like its almost becoming an ioffer type site. Less buyers also, and ebay know this. Amazon and other sites are taking over
Great find guys! I'm always open to changes as you have to adapt in business or get left behind.
I do prefer it when buyers buy their own labels and all I have to do is print it off. As long as we get to choose which courier companies we do & don't want to use then it shouldn't be too bad 👍🏻
I will only be using royal mail tracked 48. They pick up from my house and it comes with insurance. I'm not messing with other couriers
@rjwilki3 this is exactly what I do, rm 48 collection only, I live in the countryside, this is a big issue for me
That's all well and good, but has anyone else noticed Evri has gotten hella expensive since just after Xmas? It used to be about £4 to send a jacket, it's now gone up to about £6.50. I switched back to Royal Mail. Evri don't even bother to deliver half the time, it gets stuffed behind a bin and there's no one to speak to when there's a problem.
@@rjwilki3 the insurance comes as standard with RM too up to £120, other couriers attach a Premium. I was paying signature every time with Evri just to make sure the parcels actually get handed to a person (which is silly really, isn't it?) and not get thrown on the doorstep etc.
Yep, hopefully the integration will be seamless when it comes 😬
Oh crepes I’ll definitely be opting out. I’m disabled and Royal Mail collection is the only way for me to get post out quickly. Thanks for the heads up.
You’re welcome
I’m with you I’m out …. I really love Rm, I don’t drive and live in a small village… my post office is amazing ..
Same x
After 20 years of selling on eBay i stopped selling on there a few months ago because of things like this, i get things change with times but eBay are changing things that is not needed and to the cost of sellers, i just came across your TH-cam channel and very impressed with your content, best of luck to you both :)
Thank you and welcome to the channel, hope you enjoy more of our vids 👍
its EU law, everyone will have to do it unfortunately. Im kinda okay atm as i dont plan on dealing with the EU
Some couriers do not cover for damage/loss for certain items like ceramics, Jewllery etc.
My daughter sells on Vinted and they let her opt out of postage options; she chooses Royal Mail and Evri, and most of her buyers choose Evri. I wouldn't use Evri for my ebay if they paid me!
We feel the same as you about Evri
I'm so glad I saw your video randomly on here! I've been selling on ebay for just over 7 years but this week I made the decision to jack it in. The selling experience on ebay has changed so much in my time on there and not for the better. There is never any consultation with sellers at all before these ridiculous changes happen. I'm not a business but I do have an above average performance and 100% positive feedback but I'm so far fown the listings now it's pointless. I feel they have moved so far away ftom the platform they once were. It really isn't worth the bother anymore, so I shall be taking whatever is left of my listings to a charity shop.
Good luck to you going forward. 😊
Wishing you all the best for the future… sad to hear but you’ve got to do what feels right for you 👍
Just like the recent no-fees-on-clothing change, this new change shows again that eBay are feeling threatened by Vinted. Competition is good but I suspect the fees will be the last thing to be reduced, if at all. Thanks for the heads-up!
I would def opt out. Why keep changing things?
It’ll work for some I guess
I just had a random thought also….presumably there will be no such thing as a free postage option anymore then!
Yeah I can’t get my head around that one 🤯
Thanks for the info and update, as someone who has and only uses a Royal Mail business account apart form larger items this sounds like it will be a complete headache
Agreed!
Thanks for taking the time to check the new terms and conditions - I started reading but lost the will to live ! It all sounds pretty confusing but I guess we will see. I think they will have to allow sellers to opt out of certain delivery methods as some just don't have nearby drop off points so it would be difficult to manage. With regards to Evri I do use them for breakables and so far no issues but I do wrap, and double wrap to make sure things survive most things, but that comes onto the point you made that you don't always know the size until you have wrapped it.
Wrap, wrap and wrap some more! 😁
Great content and update guys, many thanks, I will have to feed this out to the community on my channel too, people need to know about this massive change and blurry updating from ebay. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work :)
Please do!
Great video, I've shared this in one of the eBay seller groups I am in on Facebook, I'm sure so many people did not know about this change
I bet that sparked some debate!?
I haven't used RM for years I only use Yodel Direct as I work full time and sell on eBay as a second job and I can drop my parcels in the evening as ht drop off shop is open until 11pm
never had any issues and everything is fully tracked an insured and I dont want to waste my lunch break queuing at the post office for 30 minutes
If you dont drive I would opt out as your going to struggle running around to the different postal options
I will opt out. Like you I sell breakables and have to adjust postage sometimes. Also I don’t have DPD or Yodel nearby so I don’t use them. EBay are so reactive - they copy the competition instead of trying to make things work better for them. I wonder if they are actually struggling a bit. Feels like panic is setting in
Everything is more work.. More time.. More costs.. And we are getting less and less back..
Great video and thank yor for sharing. Does that mean we can earn more money before registering for VAT?
Quite possibly
I think if eBay can do it right, and give us all the options we need, then it could be a good thing to keep below the VAT threshold for a little longer.
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I have been reselling on eBay for 17 years using Royal Mail, if you can't opt out of this my eBay reselling days are over. eBay seem to be making it as difficult as possible for resellers.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. 👍 Definitely something to think about and consider the options
So, does that mean tho that the postage money charged will not be added to our turnover total?
Quite possibly
Quite possibly
Ebay take a percentage of the total cost of the item plus postage.
Does this mean post costs aren't going to be part of the fees?
Quite possibly!
Hi, I'm not a full time reseller - purely sell my own things (got plenty to get rid of 😥) and enjoy watching your videos. This weekend I sold a couple of DVD sets and set the postage as £4.25 however, when I went to print off the label eBay showed the postage was £5.85 😠 and there was nothing I could do to change the system. Not a happy bunny here!
Ooh wonder what’s going on there then
Again Ebay give no consideration whatsoever to the sellers and the practicalities of their 'improvements'. If this becomes mandatory not optional ( which is quite possible with Ebay ) I wonder how many sellers will just throw the towel in. It seems to me that Ebay are completely oblivious to the fact that without sellers....................there is no Ebay!. The fewer sellers there are, the less items are listed, the less choice buyers have, so buyers go elsewhere. Ebay for sure is run by college leavers with no business acumen whatsoever.
Love that last bit especially!
the big issue for me is that we still buy the label which I assume means we will have to sort out issues, even if we have had no choice over which delivery option is chosen by the buyer/ebay.
Thanks for the heads up, will definitely opt out if possible, sounds like a right pain in the bum.
Great video, good find. This might be something to do with eBay Live thing they are working on.
They always seem to find ways to make it more difficult to sell on eBay amd charge us for the convenience.
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Thank you for this. I appreciate your level headed approach to these things.
Thank you 🙏
They need to set it like vinted
You can decided which courier you send via
I won’t use RM - only Evri
Like some others I only have local access to Royal Mail, everything else would involve a 30 mile round trip which is a pest.
I sell breakables and large paintings and absolutely like you, by the time I package my stuff it’s often tipping over into over 2kg just because of the amount of packaging. I pretty much exclusively use Evri - yep even for breakables and the idea of driving around town for different deliveries fills me with dread = who has time for that?! I am also more concerned that you’ll get pushed down the algorithms for not opting in.
Definitely a concern
Just sold a large item and buyer had selected 24 hour delivery at £17 instead of £8 delivery which was paid for on the listing and I couldn't see any way to change it. Also noticed that in post has popped up now as a delivery option - have had bad experience with this in the past so don't want buyers to be selecting that.
If you’re on a private account you have to change it listing by listing according to the help pages
i have never put the size and weight into the listing..because like you say with hard goods its impossible ..it will more than likely be rolled out for clothing
Definitely will be opting out, thanks for the heads up
I always use Royal Mail for postage. Don’t like Evri at all .
Post Office will not accept parcels that are incorrectly labelled weight or size. Re things not to like..... personally I add signed for service for items over £25 sold price. Obviously this adds cost to delivery. Does that mean buyer can buy items without signed for service because they do not want to pay extra. Further, at the moment I do not worry about what shipping service is shown in the listing, I select best deal (for me) at time of shipping. Now here is another thing like "specifics" that adds significantly to my listing workload / costs. Does anybody at ebay ever understand or even consider how these "feature" changes impact the seller. I think not.
Yes, these are really good points, sellers are far better at gauging what’s best in terms of service. I’d rather choose the service, not leave it down to the customer.
Thx for the heads up. This sounds like a headache in the making so I would probably opt out if possible. I’ve been selling a few things on Vinted recently as an experiment and must say this aspect of the selling process (ie allowing the customer to choose postage method, then having to go to multiple postage locations) is the most concerning. I had previously decided to stop using Inpost, Evri etc for my eBay sales so to have it forced upon me on Vinted isn’t ideal, but I’ve only sold a few things so far (clothing and shoes - definitely no breakables or vintage items) so not a problem yet. Just waiting for the first time an item goes missing or seriously delayed - what happens then? My experience of Packlink or other courier customer service was appalling on problems when selling on eBay, hence the reason to stop using them. To have this same issue for all my eBay sales too would be a real pain.
On Vinted you can opt out of any of the delivery methods - I only do Evri and Yodel as thats all I have close
you can opt out I only use evri yodel and royal mail as had problems in the past with inpost
Lots of an answered questions atm
Any clarification yet please? I tried to understand the T&Cs and as someone said, lost the will to live!
The page has had a few updates including:
“Simple Delivery is currently only available for private sellers in the UK selling items in certain categories. Both item and buyer delivery addresses must be in the UK, as the labels are only available for UK carriers.”
Can I opt out of Simple Delivery?
Yes, you can opt out of Simple Delivery when you’re creating the listing.
Let’s hope when they roll it out to Business sellers that there’s a global opt out so it doesn’t have to be done item by item!
I sell on Vinted as well as Ebay and so much of Vinted sales go to the lockers, the trouble is there always full. If Ebay opts to offer the lockers how the hell will we ever get an empty locker to post it?
Lockers on every street corner!?
Ebay has become a joke really. This will be a huge pain in the bum
No il definitely be opting out. Really don't understand why ebay need to change things all the time. If its not broke dont fix it!
I said years ago you can not ever rely on someone elses platform, they can change the rules as and when
Gosh, well done for Simon for reading the T & C's and noticing that. Personally, I'm not a fan of this as I currently don't drive and it's a pain to get to pracel drop off points - it's so much easier having Royal Mail collect parcels at the door. As long as they give the option to opt out of it, hopefully it will be okay.
Hoping they make the opt out button nice and easy to find!
I'll opt out as i have a account with parcelforce and its all extra work. Lets face it when you pack a parcel it can often get bigger. I deal in a lot of bigger items too like hifi and vintage electronic stuff so i want to choose who i trust
Excellent channel, very informative and genuine business resellers unlike some fraud TH-cam resellers with multiple private eBay accounts, (resellergeorge cough cough) keep up the excellent content.
Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the info re: postal costs. Maybe best not to enter item dimensions/weights at all so they have nothing to go on ? No chance I'd continue selling on Ebay if I can't avoid this "Simple delivery" nonsense. I suspect it would only be inflicted for those categories where they have to compete against Vinted, & I'm not in that lot.
We’ll always put them in where we can to help GSP quotes.
@@Married2Reselling Aaah, I don't sell abroad, though for every item I list, by default Ebay pre-specifies GSP, have to opt out each time. Don't need the aggravation of worrying about whethjer a foreign buyer has understood my description - selling used laptops, it's critical there are no misunderstandings about state/condition of item. Bad enough with some UK buyers
A question for you - not related to your video - but when you pick up for example a set of 6 cups saucers and side plates would you sell as the set of 6, or 6 individual trios or ?? Just wondered with your experience what you think would be an easier sell.
It might depend what they are… were usually swayed by what others have done, if there’s any history. We sell more single trios I think than sets, allowing people to choose the number they need.
@@Married2Reselling thanks for your help
Can you add handling fees esp for breakables, cover extra supplies needed to ensure safe arrival?
you can build it into your price
You’d have to add it in to the item price
As a buyer mostly I don’t want to make another decision as to how my parcel arrives anyway. I simply want to choose an item and let the rest happen.
If as a buyer I choose my postal option - who is then liable for a postal issue?
Seems like yet more confusion and from the sellers point of view - more time wasted.
You sellers have your own system and as a buyer I’ve always been happy with that.
Yes, in most cases, the seller knows what’s going to be best for the customer
So if you need a bigger parcel label at the post office, will they charge you the cost for a new label AND EBay charge the extra too?
Really does feel complicated.
Hopefully people who rely on parcel doorstep collections will be able to opt out
Hope not but 🤷♂️
I weigh my items before I put a postage charge on the listing, I keep an old set of scales next to the computer where I’m listing so that I can do that and get the postage right ,I don’t wanna overcharge buyers same as I wouldn’t wanna be overcharged. I think eBay are partly doing this because there are too many sellers that over charge, simply because they can’t be bothered to find out how much it weighs and how much the item is gonna cost to send. I only use Royal mail now I have an account with them, I book the parcels in myself and then they collect the next day I have not had any issues since using them. 😊
Bring back the days of ‘postage AND packing P&P’
I think you'll get more sales by opting out and offering free postage, people love thinking they are paying less for stuff.
My question is with certain items such as glass, battery operated, liquid, Evri its prohibited. So who is responsible for that if someone chooses evri for such items. You can't get a refund for it if broken, leaked. Sound like a headache to me.
Yes that one is a very grey area at this stage
Paused video to write this so you may talk about it later but what about selling fees? At the moment they charge us selling fees on the item plus the postage. If it is more similar to Vinted where the buyer doesn’t even see the postage money, surely we can’t pay fees based on the postage charge as well?
Yes, wouldn’t think they could charge fees on postage with this, but expect some sort of courier handling fee though. Who knows at this stage.
This sounds like an absolute nightmare. Can see another exodus of sellers leaving eBay over this silly postal plan. Regards Cauliflower Soup Man
Also i bet if you opt out it'll be another thing that goes against you in the searches
I already offer free postage on all of my listings, so presumably this new change means the buyer will pay postage on top of the list price? And this will be clear at the point of listing so that I can price accordingly? Obviously the customer shouldn't be able to select more expensive options at our expense that would be silly. Vinted get away with this because sellers can force their buyers to pay return postage fees...even when they lied about condition! (but that's a seperate issue)
Yeah great point… the free postage question is bending my brain, can’t work out what will happen. When I get a spare hour I’m going to try to work out how that might work.
I use Royal Mail because they have the best compensation fee up to £150 so if I sell an item for over £20 I definitely don't want someone going cheap delivery and me being screwed if it goes missing or ends up damaged! Sounds like a bad idea! I recently sent an item to the States and although ebay handles global shipping they still charged me 20% of the buyers import fee, that's nothing to do with me I didn't even see it as the fee went straight to ebay, go figure!
Yes that international fee is a pain!
Can’t imagine using evri as seems nothing I sell can be insured and claimed so why would I give the buyer that option ??
You won't get charged final value fee hopefully on the postage so mite work out ok
Will eBay be adding the cost of postage that a customer selects to your sale, and will that be deducted in their fees ?
Good questions
This is going to cause mayhem from eBay. I'd opted out.
Agree
I did that as well turned up at the post office with a bag full of parcels with no labels on 😬😬 I will be opting out of this nonsense, only use RM as like you guys my evri shop is 7 miles away and PO is a mile away and I prefer RM to Evri but can see problems ahead esp if they are like parcel2go with their fines...Also RM has been sold so who only knows what is ahead of us with that, most likely an erosion of services and more cost cutting.
We buy the labels at the counter if it’s just one, but I bet for a bag full, you took them back to label yourself!
A few thoughts
I think post office will be accepting other couriers
It maybe just locker based to be more convenient
Some couriers don't accept breakables
What happens when the lockers are full though.
@@Married2Reselling I think this is one of the big issues with lockers. You have to start a locker hunt !
i actually prefer this, the way vinted does their shipping is much more simplier, as long as we can select our own couriers which we want to use.
ill be opting out till all the early glitches get ironed out
Great video guys thank you so much for this had no idea ❤
I might have missed it but anything about how combined postage would work?
Great shout, hopefully something in place to auto combine items. However, that won’t work for some products I wouldn’t imagine (eg size or weight just too large, or funny shapes etc to bundle up when packing). Like if you had to pack a golf club with a TV 🤣🤔
Sounds like it would be a nightmare for volume sellers with courier accounts .Can't see World of books messing about with multiple couriers The increased cost in man hours alone plus the discount they've negotiated with their courier contract . I should think this is aimed more at the casual seller who sells a few items a month . other sellers me included who have a royal mail account will surely be able to opt out . Ebay labels may disappear though and this may replace it .
Typical of EBay to do everything the complicated way! I like the way Vinted& Depop do postage but I can see so many complications doing it on EBay. It’s bad enough with extra postage fees for areas like BT and remote Scottish islands if you use Evri.
Do you recommend free shipping across the bord
It’s said that your item will get higher up the search in ‘best match’ with free postage, we do about 50% of our items with free postage and the rest with postage added.
I think uts been rolled out in the US...
In my opinion it would not be good and will be opting out as soon as.... Will be interesting to see what kind of effect it will have on my Ebay account.... Ebay dead atm for me and it perks up two weeks of the month..... I have started doing carboots again and doing pretty well !
I’ve never understood the US postage system, due to the size of the territory it seems really complicated to start with.
is this just for UK or is it planned for the states too? this sounds like a nightmare and would likely put me out of business. ebay just wouldn't be worth it if I had to measure each item, drive around to different shippers, blah blah ....this is really a bad idea and sellers need to voice concerns.
Someone in the comments seemed to think it was already in the states but I’m not sure it is.
So how does claiming the VAt workout on postage ? Does the seller still get it back or does Ebay get to keep it ?
Assuming it’ll be eBays transaction so eBays cost
I live in the middle of nowhere, in Scotland.
I only use Royal Mail and that is a thirty mile round trip. If i was forced to use other couriers as well, it would make my business unviable.
I feel like if they’re adding it to the tc&cs, they should have at least given the opt out button for the time being, so we could decide later if there’s any other parts that might work for some of us
This is how I do it charge 5.10p for second class recorded wrap the item up when it sells , take it to the post office, they weigh it and tell me it's 5.10 for second class recorded and away it goes , reciept in had for the recorded delivery away I go. If I think the item it heavier I charge on the listing 9.97 if it is less than this at the post office I refund the difference to the buyer as a partial refund. For postage 😊 thats it basically except for games and dvds they are 3.50 because ebay wont let you cuarge more than this on listing so I cover the extra . So tend to send them out in lots opposed to single games so as to cover it better. I only use Rolay mail and I only send second class recorded or if very expensive I do next day special delivery, it takes away any stress when posting and you know most of your items costs. 😊 Royal mail cover you on second class recorded and so do ebay when you upload the tracking number 😊
I used to do the same 2nd class record but switched to yodel best thing I ever did
Take yesterday for example I sold a pair of jeans via global shipping to USA I think ..I realised I sent wriong size jeans at around 8 pm
I went to live chat on App spoke to a call called Zara she arranged for the parcel in transit to be sent back to my home address
Try getting RM to do that for you at 8pm on a Friday night ..not bad for £2,50 as well
That’s very thorough - nice!
Can’t you just either assume everything will be medium and size accordingly or, add extra postage to your item price… or all the postage and offer free postage?
I would think of you added medium sizing to the listing, eBay would then make the postage charge less appealing to the potential customer. The free postage thing is confusing me though.
Add the cost of postage to your item and offer ‘free’ postage
We do that already in most instances. It’s not an issue for us. But the issue with the new ‘simple’ postage isn’t the cost implication, it’s whether eBay can produce the right label for the size of the parcel.
Pro - could help a lot of people circa VAT threshold. Con - potentially sellers wont have the wiggle room to incorporate postage insurance into the listing postage policy. Especially bad for sellers that sell a smaller / lighter item that has a high price. Lots of cons a couple of pros... Eitherway I'll be opting out ASAP. Great vid folks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you
selling something for £4+post ... considering the Ebay fees, pkging materials, time spent photo-ing & listing, also label-printing/packing/handling time etc ... couldn't justify it for a one-off item. Only multiple identicals work really for such low profit levels *for me*. Otherwise it's just a "labour of love" & into the realms of the "hobby seller" to my mind. Maybe you can streamline the listing/packing time ? Also with one-off items, can be difficult with medium-t large items to source cheap & secure packaging material And you have a proportion of Ebayers making stupid enquiries/offers etc to eat in to your time. And the returns, scammers to factor in. I even bought a load of identical new items for £2 each, & even when selling for £10 delivered through Ebay, I ended up losing out due to fees, P&P, returns, & the time taken to photo, list, pack, despatch, deal with enquiries.
We rarely list things that low, as listings age prices get reduced and we let stuff go. We view it more as a bigger picture.
Will you still be able to do free postage? And just add it to the price of the item?
This is the part that is causing us the most confusion personally
What if you don’t have a printer and hand write ✍️ the address ??
A QR code would be provided I would guess, so you’d just have them scanned at the counter
also all i sell is hard goods and i only use evri gotta be 10 years now ..if it brakes it because i know ive not wrapped it enough
Yep, agreed, breakages are always our responsibility
Do you not have a Royal Mail business account
Used to have OBA but not anymore
EBay is dying for the last 6-8 months.
I’ve literally had no sales, Vinted on the other hand, has exploded.
I’m averaging about 8-10 sales a week.
I did sell a limited edition Funko Pop last week on eBay, for £55, eBay took 9 quid off me in fees then I have to pay for postage.
Awful, I’m slowly leaving behind behind
Yet over on Amazon they send u a huge box with a little box inside and loads packing crap all for a £3 charger 😂
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Ebay will lose out as they charge fees on postage or is that just for us private sellers?
They’ll probably just introduce an ‘opt out fee’ 🤣 it’s the same for business was sellers.
Thanks for the update. I don't like the sound of it atm.
Me neither
oh crap! - i'm going to have to add size and weight to listings
I guess, if you stay opted in
So glad I don’t sell on eBay anymore.
I use Royal Mail for all my posting on my business and personal ebay
I have discounted rates because of the amount we send out daily we also have our mail collected by RM everyday, I will be opting out of this straight away, another Ebay rubbish idea trying to copy other platforms rather than keeping to what has made the platform great
How exciting! poorly thought out change by eBay. Who would have thought it?😬🤣
Many thanks for making the effort to read & highlighting this, I did see the T&C update email come in the other week but couldn’t be arsed to read it 👍🏼
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Hello guys can I have a link to your store for ebay please
No problem 👍 www.ebay.co.uk/str/purplepurplelottie?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=fyoMlfTOSGq&sssrc=3418065&ssuid=_ckXtmKWQD6&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Will never sell on eBay ever again! The fees , No customer service, total headache
Everyone should do free p&p and put the cost of p&p on the item.