5 things I learned and I feel like everyone should have the chance to experience: - an understanding for basic science i really take advantage of everyday in Med School - getting used to test situations and other stress situations I am dealing with all the time at university - I felt like discussions and debating in different situations (let it be a class or at lunch) taught me a lot for life and about other people - developing learning strategies, a sense for what's important to know and what isn't and also just improving learning skills and training your brain to filter and also remember things but most importantly: - interaction and social skills through dealing with nice and not so nice other kids And I feel like that is of enormous meaning for your entire life, it really is all about interacting and understanding other people. A person who is good with people will get so much further in life in so many ways. Also learning to deal with people you don't naturally get along with is vital. Learning to deal with rejection or negative experiences and understanding and developing a way to process that is so much easier when you're still living at home with the support of your family and parents and not in a college dorm by yourself. So much easier than being let out in the big wide world all by yourself for the first time when starting college, not having made any of those experiences before.
Fortunately all of those experiences are available through homeschooling, along with being in the actual real world. I have never experienced another social situition with same-aged peers other than school, and at school the rule was usually"no talking." Public school was/is so homogenous. Maybe people assume homeschoolers stay home all the time??? Also, learning to love my siblings would have been the BEST way to learn how to get along with others. It's still a struggle. 😅
In school: I learned history which i indirectly use with how my political beliefs are formed, i learned basic biology that I use in medical school, I learned how to type very quickly without looking at the keys, i learned how to sing from sheet music (which is helpful for hymns etc), I also took a finance class that taught the basics on money management (subsidized vs unsubsidized loans, etc).
5 things I learned In an Australian high school between 13 and 17: 1. Problem solving skills 2. Conflict resolution skills 3. Essay and report writing skills (critical for university) 4. Legal studies - I learned about debating, the laws, the systems Australia is built upon etc. Which provides me with a bunch of understanding about A LOT. 5. Biology - whilst at the time much of it seemed irrelevant, I built knowledge that helped me understand my body, how to take care of it, what it needs etc. And an understanding of illness, rest, medical treatments (to a baseline of course - I am not a doctor). I could go on too! Australia does a great job in my opinion of making sure that what you learn is relevant. I’m now studying to be a teacher and the curriculum and how teachers are taught to teach us all about linking things to the real world and making things relevant! :)
I think the things that I learned in school that have impacted me the most now are honestly things that were elective. 1. Marching band taught me discipline & accountability 2. Music classes prepared me for studying music in college 3. Travel & tourism & global studies courses prepared me for my job now that involves planning international travel 4. Civil rights & leadership class taught me a lot about social justice and the importance of history 5. Photography class taught me photoshop skills that I use in my job now
Honestly, I've tried the "list 5 things" and I couldn't even stop at 5 😅 sure I don't use the periodic table really, or some advanced maths stuff but these are not the most important things you can learn in school I believe. So here's my 5+1 list, but honestly, I could go on: 1. How to socialize and to respect everyone's beliefs even if they don't align with yours 2. My love for books and analizing texts 3. The connection between historical actiond and nowaday actions 4. How our society and countries are built and how they work 5. How to follow a daily routine, how to study and work effectively +1: English as a second language and the basics of every subject
All agreed. I'm a teacher. Watching my students debate fairly; get into an expected routine; learning the importance of respecting different races, ethnicities, culture, without thinking their race reigns supreme is beautiful. They love learning all of history, not a surface level history (we talk a lot t about the contributions made by Native Americans, not just Christopher Columbus.) Watching them resolve conflict on their own; participate in clubs; work hard on winning spelling bees, reading bowl, math challenges; while remembering that winning is not the most important thing. And I like that they see the good, bad, and ugly. They learn so much about what NOT to do when they see the ugly side, but it's important for them to see it. School is so much more than the classes that are often taught they may not apply to your individual career choice. The most important thing is raising a well-rounded child that can exist in a diverse world.
Really appreciate your relationship, humor, and truth telling. I come from a bit of a broken household that was not Christian. So I learn a lot about family and living well while pursuing God watching y'all! Nate thanks for keeping it real! And your calm strength that you have is inspiring. Blessings to your whole family!!
I am an emergency department/trauma nurse & I would not have made it here without the chemistry, biology, anatomy, math, and work ethic/study habits that I learned in high school. I definitely agree that not everybody needs to go to college; trades are awesome! But your child might not know what they want to do by highschool, so maybe having the classes needed to expand their options is good. Just some thoughts, but I understand your perspective:)
It is so refreshing to hear y’all talk about the same things my husband and I are concerned about when it comes to our kids education and discipline and health!
And Thank you for being so real. For the first time ever, I think I’ve found a TH-cam couple that aligns with so much of my belief system and isn’t ashamed to speak it. So, thank you both for being open and Real!
Public school teacher here! I just wanted to give some insight from an Elementary perspective. K-5 is crucial for learning how to read, write, and develop math skills. Not only that but also navigating relationships with others kids the same age and how to interact with other kids/people in general. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have!
I took a class in high school that taught me how to completely run a business . The class prepared me to follow a career in finance. Also I wanted to let Nate know that engineers and architects need algebra and calculus. I agree that we don’t always learn things that will follow us in life. I believe it is important to learn how your child learns and their strong suits to expand on it and play to their strengths.
I was homeschooled from grade 2-12. It was the best experience ever! Though I'll emphasise that my sisters and I did a lot of academic studying (Maths, English, Science, History...etc). We all went to universities after so our parents wanted to set us up to have very high academic standards and education to go anywhere with our careers in the future. But we also got to do heaps of other things that school kids don't do heaps or none of (classes in sewing/dressmaking, embroidery, knitting/crotchet and cooking, a tone of music, home economics,...etc) because there is so much less waist of time when you homeschool (no travel, no waiting in class until everyone gets the concept, no bullying nonsense...etc,) you get to do heaps of of other things because there is time for it :) and above all we got to learn from godly examples and soak ourselves in God's word everyday in a way that one can't get in any school even if it's a Christian school.
The part that I did enjoy from public school is just being around all types of kids, learning new cultures, ideas, social interaction. The educational part that I use every single day is everything I learned in the areas of math, geometry, English, Extra curricular activities, student council, debate, art clubs and just the accomplishment of finishing high school with my friends. 🤷🏽♀️
I’m a homeschool grad and now nurse! I love what you shared about school- do it! It’s worth it. Get them into the trades and yes you be the one in charge of the their education. The farther I get into life and the more people I meet the more thankful I am for my parents choice in my education.
Love Nate’s passion about homeschooling!!! I’m a homeschool momma!!! Currently teaching my boy an auto class to learn all things about a vehicle and changing tires, checking oil, Ect. My 11th grader is learning about finances, budgeting, balancing checkbooks, and filing taxes this year!!!!
Nate, I 1000% agree with you on the school subject. We're choosing to homeschool our children next year. 4th grader, 8th grader and Kindergarten. God has shown my husband and I lots of things since 2020.
Yes. 5 things 1) how to type, 2) use the Dewey decimal library system, 3) participating in teams, working with others, 4) history of slavery and the United states. Yes because I use this and the process of evaluating what history says, a ton of times, if not everyday, at least once a week. 5) the value of staying in touch with friends through the years. If not only at school but the value.
I'm an Environmental Consultant by profession and Chemical Engineer by training and I'm so thankful for the sciences. Whilst I rarely (read never) apply algebra and most scientific principles in my day to day work since I use a lot of programming tools, I am so thankful to know the foundational aspects of the subjects and I would not have been able to pursue an Engineering degree without being equiped with knowledge from these subjects. Another subject I'm particularly thankful for is Biology. My parents were mostly avoidant when it came to subjects around sex and reproduction so learning it in school without undertones of shame and Taboo really helped me understand the mechanisms of my body. I think education has multiple facets of application, whilst you apply some aspects of education directly into your everyday life, other aspects are meant to invoke curiosity or train you in critical thinking. I am not against homeschooling, just really appreciate education in general.
I love, love, love your opinion about homeschooling you children and education! It brings me so much encouragement to know I'm not alone in this area. I'm only 16 and know I want to homeschool my future children. I was homeschooled through 5th grade and have been going to a Christian school since then, and will finish there. Thanks for sharing and your complete honesty!
I went to a private Catholic school. Sure, I learnt some useless stuff, but I enjoyed learning. Things like history and world religions, fine tuning my writing ability, and performing in front of my peers- I wouldn't change my experience for the world.
I wouldn't trade my schooling for anything. No, I don't use all the academics taught, but man did I learn diversity; coping skills with those outside of my family; culture, and the importance of learning how and why people think the way they do. I loved the field trips with friends, and some of those friends felt like family. I loved history and basic science. I loved learning that I wasn't the center of everything; I had to respect authority. I loved my parents, but I wouldn't have been interested in being taught by them. Plus, my mom did teach me necessities for life. I graduated knowing how to balance a checkbook, cook a meal, wash my own laundry etc. School is so much more than algebra, chemistry etc.
1. We learned how to tell if a number is divisible by a number. So, I know that 1102032 is evenly divisible by 9 without checking. 2. The constitution test I took in 8th grade has been useful lately. 3. I learned how to check the BOLS for the projection of the job outlook. 4. I learned how to make a job resume in high school. 5. I learned that I am capable of doing great things. 6. I learned how to work hard.
Five things I learned from early school through end of high school: (For context, I started in public elementary, then was homeschooled for grades 4-7, then private Christian high school for grades 8-12) 1. My Christian high school was setup like a university. In 10th-12th, we took a 3 hr/wk “worldview” class. My senior year, the professor - double PhD, former presidential speech writer - took us through the entire history of modern philosophy. Like, that was the class. 9h/week, for an entire year. That class - and more importantly, that professor - taught my how to be curious, how to think critically, how to ask questions, how to be aware, and how to reason. 2. My algebra teacher always said “go back to what you know!” I don’t use that for algebra lol, but, that idea stuck with me and I still remind myself! 3. Another teacher told us “sometimes, your homework doesn’t get done.” That idea that it is OKAY to prioritize, even if that means not being perfect, or cutting things that’re seen as “must-do’s,” if those things are not helping you grow closer to your goals. 4. My biology teacher taught us we’re “all just big bags o’ chemicals.” It bothered me a lot at the time, and also confused me, as she was a Christian teacher who taught creationism etc. Now that I’m 30, I’m finally beginning to realize how right she is. And more importantly, that that’s not at odds with belief in God - God _made_ these “bags of chemicals,” and actually acknowledging the effect chemicals have on us empowers us to be mindful of things like how nutrition, vitamins, exercise, necessary medications, etc affect our daily functioning. 5. When I was homeschooled during the end of elementary thru middle school, I learned how to be successful at tedious tasks - for ME, personally. How? Gotta get up bright and very early, before anyone else is up, and then I can do those tasks. That’s it. Do I do that nowadays? Nope lol; but I’m a work in progress, especially as I’ve learned more about ADHD neuroscience etc. But FOURTH grade me got to be a pro at waking up at 6:45 to do my math homework at the dark kitchen table lol. Now to just get to that place again 😆
Thank you for sharing. Since the covid situation, we too have decided to not vaccinate our babies. My 3 year old has had all vaccines up to date, but my 7 month old hasn't had any for the exact same reasons. I heard someone say something that comforted us in our decision making as we were feeling the pressure as the appointment was drawing close and we were undecided on what to do "You can always decide to vaccinate at any age, but you can't take something out that has already been put in". So yes, our decisions may change in the future, but for the moment, we are quite content in our decision. Candace Owens is currently releasing episodes on her podcast called "A Shot in the darK" which is revealing many truths about vaccines that we as parents are just so unaware of. It's definitely a scary time, but we have faith that we serve a God that Loves us and will protect us.
We might not learn specific things in school that you can use in life since everyone lives different but I still think it’s useful because of the same approach with critical thinking in certain situations
I feel like it depends what your career is after high school. For me I wanted to major in Marine Biology, so all those classes that you might find unnecessary for me were very helpful and really allowed me to know whether Marine Biology was the way to go. So, you can be preventing your kids from following their dreams not letting go to real school but, I do understand where your coming from and I agree with the many things you said so.
If we wouldn’t hit our spouses or family member for misbehaving, we shouldn’t do it to a child. Children don’t differentiate between a spoon or your hand. They just see the person they’re supposed to trust hurting them. Agree with lots of other stuff you said tho
No not necessarily true, sometimes sitting them down countless times and talking to them does nothing. I got a lot of spanking, and looking back I 100 percent deserved every single of them 😂. It didn’t make me hate my parents, even as a kid I didn’t even get that feeling of hatred, but more so sad and mad. It forced me to act better, I never got spank just for the sake of it.
Guys I LOVE the honesty!! It’s hard to learn anything from TH-camrs or take advice when everybody sugar coats everything and won’t tell you their actual opinions, parenting methods, etc. I wish more people would say what they’re actually thinking! Thank you for this refreshing video😊 -Sidney
5 things I learnt and use from high school I work as a support worker/ nurse in a rest home setting 1) chemical titration equation, for making/checking appropriate medicine doses 2) Learning what musical chords are by hearing them, helps to develop music and composing skills 3) Careers Class, taught to write a CV, Cover letters, Defensive driving etc... 4) Scientific report writing, writing help medical documents to help determine the course for the resident. 5) Physics class, learning the fundamentals to apply force in ways to distribute weight to move things easier or to understand things such as how to fix specific equipment. I found it was a important thing to go to high school, however I did my final year by correspondence, both worked for me but in the end it depends on the kid and how they learn. What's best for one kid isn't best for the other.
I was homeschooled all the way through highschool with my brother's. 1. Christian apolagitics/Christian world view 2. Spelling 3. Sewing one of my favorite hobbies and useful for making dresses. 4. Self discipline my last few years of highschool was me mostly teaching my self with my school books. 5. Logic, I learned mostly about logical fallacies which is useful conversations and anylizing the news. Bonus! 6. Geography I don't have to look at a map every time the news or some one mentions another country. I loved being homeschooled. I Learned a lot from the experience and was able to do more things like traveling or learning different skills that wouldn't have been possible if I was in school.
What a refreshing start haha! God bless you, Sutton and Nate! I'm very thankful for your videos, your content really inspires and helps me :) I'm so happy that you keep creating videos even though you have a busy life. I pray for you, your third baby and your two cute boys! Greetings from Germany💕
Hi there!!! I love Germany! I have a great grandma who came to America on a boat sometime around 1900. I have her picture sitting in my kitchen nook, it has my great grandmother & great grandfather with their ten kids including my grandpa who was the oldest child! My grandpa said he remembered when he was growing up that my German born grandma would cuss in German when she got mad, lol!!!!! Her name was Anna Lutzkesel, and I'm sad that I'm not sure if I spelled that last name right🤷. Anyway, God bless you and sending much love from Indiana, USA.❤️
@@goinghome1191 How sweet, thank u! What a funny story😂 It's crazy bc my father's cousin lives in the USA, so we both have connections to the other country somhow haha! God bless u too :)
My interest in Nursing came in high school. An understanding for basic science really helped me prepare for nursing school. I really valued my catholic school education
Thanks to my public education... 1. I learned how to use proper grammar to speak, write, and type. 2. I learned how to speak in public, including how to debate others. 3. I learned how to research and back up my claims with sourced evidence. 4. I learned how to work with others, including people I don't agree with and people who think and work differently than I do. 5. I learned a tremendous amount about human behavior in my psychology class. Honorable mention: I learned how to play an instrument and read music. I could go on and on...
I love what you said about spanking! Not many talk about or do spanking anymore so this was nice! I got spanked as a child, and I see in so many ways that it helped me respect my parents and obey and I want the same for my children! Also the part that you talked about how to discipline in public, helped so much! I'm always on the hunt on how to discipline in public, but not tell them "wait till we're home". Putting them in the carseat until they decide they want to behave, such a good idea! Thank you so much for the video, love your guys parenting, and Christianity views❤️
5 things is easy: German, Italian, Spanish, History of Medicine, Literature Skills. I have a degree from Oxford and used a lot of my school knowledge whilst studying language and culture at university. What counts even more is the transferable skills I learnt at school that are of immense value in the wider world - analytical skills, teamwork, social skills. If a kid wants to be a doctor how do you think you’re going to teach them all of that scientific understanding at home if you haven’t studied it? How are you going to teach a kid to speak a foreign language if you can’t speak one? Instead of ruling out school maybe you should be more selective about which schools you pick and spend some of your money on a really good education that will give your kids a proper start in life rather than tethering them to the narrow confines of your home and state.
i truly appreciate your vulnerability and honesty, it sets you apart from anyone else on youtube, truly. i always enjoy your videos! thank you and God bless!!
Have been homeschooling my 12 year old and 8 year old for two years now. It's wonderful to give them the one-on-one attention, and they are thriving both as students and as members of our family. I'm so glad I've had this extended time with them and that we left the rat race of private school. Our private school was wonderful, but we were busy all the time. And I agree with you it's more about childcare than necessity. HOWEVER, I love the classics and personally learned a lot in school. The more intelligent a person is, the more inquiring the mind is. Learning can be very interesting and enriching, whether you use everything you studied or not.
Honestly, it was very difficult to think of five things I use every day from middle/high school. I didn't think it would be, but y'all make a very valid point. I only have one: 1. Grammar skills. My high school English teacher my senior year taught me more about grammar and sentence structure than any other I ever had, and I still replay major points of his lectures in my head every day when I write to help keep me on track. I'm in college now, so his teaching has been very helpful. I did gain a lot of important social skills and learned a lot of life lessons during my middle and high school years, but as far as actual schoolwork, I can't think of anything else.
I agree with teaching kids useful stuff...but the other school subjects are important too! Not in a "direct" way, but they shape your mind and acculturate you.
Childcare for 6th-12th? Those were the best of days at school. I learned so much and it gave me confidence for college and my high school friends and our tie to high school, geez y’all need to go and visit schools and see the atmosphere and level of education.
Oh my Lanta. I have loved watching y’all over the years. And this was so good. Laughed a lot at this one and Nate be real for TH-cam hahahaha that’s awesome!!! God is doing a work in y’all’s life and it’s fun to get to watch and “hangout” on my lunch breaks in the office 😂😏
From my middle and high school years, I personally learnt: - 3 foreign languages at school that I still use to this day - how to write in an academic/formal way which is a skill that I need on a regular basis. - discipline and hard work: by having to wake up early everyday and prepare for exams - how to work in a team - presentation skills Thanks for this great video btw. This was super interesting! I watched episodes of the series 'Vaccine Revealed' a few years ago which completely opened my eyes on the truth about vaccines and all the harm they have caused to humanity. Unfortunately, this information is being heavily censored nowadays so it becomes increasingly hard to find this type of high-quality content.
Love love love that y’all speak in stuff many TH-camrs are so fearful to answer the hard questions yet brag about being transparent . So glad y’all spoke on spanking nowadays I feel people are so scared to even mention they spank or that it will break they’re spirit . But I was raised like y’all to spanking and everything but good talks after to and lots of love and I came out fine .
Love the honesty, so refreshing. Sutton you inspire me so much on how to hold myself as a woman and a wife! My husband and I just had our first baby and we named him Oaklan- the midwives asked how I thought of such a unique name and I passed all the credit to you guys for having such an impression on my life! God bless all the way from Australia! x P.S. Nate you crack me up 😂
Nate: I learned how to step out of my comfort zone. I learned how to speak in front of the class. I learned about my dream job. I learned how to speak Spanish. I learned different techniques of drawing. (I'm passionate about this.) I learned those from 6th to 12th grade. I guess it depends on the person.🤣🤣🤣 Love you guys!
That’s interesting about school. It’s easy for me to think of 5 things, so I guess I can be your “one off”. 1) I learned how to speak Spanish well, and I use that in my job and town. 2) I use statistics to understand and assess the programs I’m responsible for at work. 3) I learned how to better write. I always used past participles, but I love writing and feel like I gained tools all the way through high school. 4) Our high school taught CPR in Health class, as well as other safety techniques, and I’m so thankful to have those in my “back pocket“ for every day life. 5) I learned about geography that helped me figure out where people are as I hear about them, from missionaries, from news, and other sources. 6) I learned so many other life lessons… like how to be brave enough to present in front of others (which terrified me, but now I love - and do through work) or exercising using my voice/agency (dropped physics based on my experience) or teamwork with band or my photojournalism class (both which fed my ways to express my creativity, which I feel is a God given passion and skill in my life)… interesting that this is your strong passion area. Food for thought.
I'm studying education at the moment, so I can definitely use my knowledge from school. I do understand where Nate is coming from, and I hope that I can drive change in the education system!
Wow I respect and agree with Nate’s passion against the school system. I hated school growing up and I always felt school destroyed my real dreams and aspirations. I could have been an athlete, or a writer, two of my biggest passions and school just exhausted me to a point of depression and not having motivation to pursue anything. I know many people who, like me, loved to read growing up and when school got too much with giving us all the stupid useless material to study for endless tests and exams, it just became so overwhelming to read anything for pleasure
Some advice I’m just gonna put out there to keep in mind about public/in-school learning is how vital in can be if your child is interested in pursuing STEM in uni. As someone who just finished their honours biochem degree, I can’t imagine having gone through it without having any lab experience whatsoever or experience in lab report writing. I’m not saying it’s impossible, it would just be jarring at first! I also think it’s funny that Nate brought up knowing the elements of the periodic table…because I use that every day 😂
Probably an assumption to overcome, but homeschool kids do lab sciences, often in real labs, and have more opportunities for STEM than those confined to a school building all day. So many more opportunities available through the flexibility of homeschooling.
5 things....I learned to write very well. I learned American history and had a great teacher who taught us about our so important Constitution. I learned great leadership skills through sports. I believe Algebra trains your brain in a way that basic math cannot. Our required reading tremendously increased my vocabulary levels. We learned basic biology and scientific thought.
I love your guys honesty !! You should do more videos where you tell us exactly how it is and exactly how you feel… I’m still young and I have already learnt so many life lessons from your videos so thank you ;)
Well done Nate and Sutton regarding vaccinating yourselves and your children. God has truly enlighten and opened yours eye in my humble opinion. You are blessed, all of you. Amen
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I love your ideas about homeschool. That's exactly what they do around here where we live. Homeschool groups will go to different homes to learn practical things from them because of their expertise. Great idea
That's so rare in my area that when I tell them that if I get married and end up pregnant or decide to adopt kids that they are definitely getting homeschooled for the first 4 years and I'll take them to school for 2 years and allow them to decide which is best for them
I dont agree, many school classes like algebra, although arguably not practically useful, teach children how to think and solve problems. If you know how to think, all of these “practical” things become trivial to learn and understand, and can be self taught later on!
@@Mr5432177 I didn't say kids shouldn't learn algebra. (I think Nate did though haha) I'm highlighting the real world involvement of home school groups in my area to learn meaningful and practical life skills. It's an added enrichment to the fundamentals of school subjects. If they are seeing real world examples and learning meaningful skills and say Hey I'd like to have this occupation because of it and algebra is involved, then of course algebra will be useful to learn for their success and they will be more apt to learning it. And they will learn it better because it becomes more relevant. I know I've always retained something better if it was relevant. That's how the brain works, it will hang on to what is necessary and dump what isn't.
Yeah, the school educational system is not perfect, but I learnt how to think critically, where to find information and how to verify it, how to distinguish facts from falsehoods, it allowed me not to live in a vacuum not knowing anything about the history of mankind, the world or our own culture, but to be able to understand other people better.
I was homeschooled, but these would be my five. 1. How to think critically about literature and writing 2. How to speak in front of a group of people 3. How to discuss/debate different ideas in a group setting 4. How I learn best 5. How to research specific topics
Babe, if you ever need help getting out of that relationship, I promise you there are people in this comment section who will help you, me being one of them. I know what it's like growing up with religious indoctrination, and if you ever need help deconstructing, I gotchu. I'm so sorry you've so thoroughly had your own voice stripped away. I hope you find it again one day💛
One of my best friends was home schooled while I went to public school. I think one of the main draw backs of home school is the social aspect. In school, I was able to participate in plays, band/orchestra, sports, etc. Obviously you can do these things outside of school as well, but it’s nice when it’s part of your day. On the flip side, my friend was able to study what she wanted to study, on her time. So, I think she was able to learn more that aligned with her interests. There’s tradeoffs for both, and I think it depends on the kid what’s best. As your kids get older, it might be worth letting them do a semester or year in school for middle/high school and see if that fits them better or home schooling. Education is not a one size fits all situation, so I totally see the case on both sides. Thanks for sharing! Always enjoying your videos :)
i love the idea of homeschooling and sometimes wish i had been homeschooled. the only thing i would say is do not just limit your kids to learning christianity. theres so many other historical lessons and cultural beliefs in other religions that are interesting and can teach your kids a lot learning wise. religion is one thing but history is another and even though you don't believe in greek mythology for example, that does not mean it is less interesting or historical for your kids. :) i grew up catholic and loved learning about other religions in catholic school like mythology, buddhism, islam, and judaism. they're so intriguing and give a whole other perspective about life and the world, which are things everyone should be aware of.
Great advice concerning child discipline! Respectfully, I would like to say that there is no such thing as "karma", per say. From a Christian, biblical point of view, you might say, "You reap what you sow."
Algebra, the periodic table and physics all of this is taught so that children can have basic knowledge of stuff if they want to pursue it in university. Of course everything taught in school isn't useful in the future but they teach you all this so that you can decide which field you like and would want to persue
I have 4 kids and we've been homeschooling from the start !! I think it's important to learn about christ first then useful things and the child's interests!!! There is so much flexibility in homeschooling. The bible tells us parents teach your children ..not send your children off to learn from others . So enjoy watching you two!!!
I love you guys! I have been watching you for years now and think you are fabulous God-fearing parents but have noticed since Oakley was little how relaxed you are with your spanking 😅 I have three boys & a baby girl (six years and younger) so I understand how overwhelming this stage is. We are pausing with vaxs for all of our children and homeschooling too 💕
5 things I learned in middle school and high school. I use my typing skills ALL THE TIME! I was in FFA and so I learned responsibility to take care of important things. I learned from FFA to make speeches and leadership skills for meetings and activities. I learned really well from my English teacher how to write a research paper and I used it a lot in college and now to write Bible studies in our ministry. I also learned that people are horrible and unfair and mean and you need to learn how to deal with them because no matter where you go there are awful people. My history teacher was HORRIBLE but he did a good job of making us keep up with current events and that stayed with me. WE had current event daily quizzes and I thought that was a valuable skill. All that said, I homeschool my kids because I don’t want my kids in school NOW>. I was in a small school that was in a great community. Those hardly exist now.
I am so excited to hear you guys want to homeschool! I am second oldest of 9 kids and my mom homeschooled has homeschooled us all the way through! Anybody can do it as long as God is your foundation and that you have a community of other homeschool families around you!! I truly believe God wants parents to disciple and train your children up in the Lord as opposed to sending them to a teacher for 8 hours a day! Yep, Nate, I’m right there with you! Passionate 😆
School is there to give you a taste test of different things so that you later on (after being presented with many different things) can make a decision about what you want any enjoy doing in life. Obviously, you can not start teaching someone the same maths as you learn to become an engineer, you have to start with the basics, same goes for all the other subjects. If you as parents homeschool your kids it is more likely that you will teach them about the things that you enjoy, but perhaps they would have been more successful in something you know less about. They would also miss out on the very important part of being around other kids, not just the kids you choose to put them in contact with.
Writing a check and taxes and addressing and envelope are things that your parents should have taught you, it is not the school's responsibility. If your parents didn't teach you that, they failed, not the school system.
What a great idea to have your child follow around a carpenter or a cook or another professional, that is definitely going down in my notes! We are moving from CA soon and found a small private Christian school for our kids, but I definitely will find ways to teach them life skills. It helps that my husband is a diy guy and especially in cars. My hope is that my kids can grow their own businesses from their passions and interests.
One thing you can never learn enough in school is proper grammar and spelling. It's insane the lack of proper English used by fairly educated people. You never start a sentence with the word mine. You never begin a sentence with "Me and X..." It's always, "X and I..." Spelling is another thing. I cannot go anywhere and not see a misspelling or a grammatical error. They're on billboards, and menus and of course the internet. So, yes. There are things that can be taught and need to be taught in school during the middle school and high school years.
It's not the topics that I learned in MS and HS that concern me. It's the topics that are now being taught that we did not learn that concern me. I am currently reading Mama Bear Apologetics: Sexuality and it has really committed me to homeschooling my baby (7 months old currently - so preparing very early)
I truly don't see any reason to lay hands on your child. I'm personally traumatised from being spanked and hearing my brother getting spanked. You're just teaching them that violence is ok. Sure you're not beating them to a pulp but it's fear induced parenting!
I mean I only finished 9th grade but I still can’t really mention anything that I found useful so far, my parents switched over to homeschool during COVID, and it is much better, and I love the idea of going to work with like I carpenter or someone like that, I’m actually going to work with my uncle for a couple of days in construction. It has really helped though to have God with me throughout my journey of life and don’t know what I would do without him.
Well Nate you just demonstrated that indeed you did not learn what you were supposed to from middle school to graduation: The variety and complexity of science, different points of views, different ways of viewing the world (not just through the Christian lense). Of course, by homeschooling your kids you will absolutely make sure that they become just as close-minded as you are, that they only learn how YOU and your Christian belief system view the world and you make sure that they don't get in touch with people that are different, gay, disabled, socially awkward or just non-Christian. I cannot speak for the American school system but just so you know I learned way more than five things during this time in Germany that I use very often or that are just so important to know in general: two foreign languages, the history of the World and my own country in particular, a basic understanding of natural science (yes it's good and interesting to know why objects fall down, that the earth revolves around the sun, what DNA is and how plants grow), painting techniques in art class, playing team sports according to official rules, learning how to work together with other students, prepare speeches, learn about the belief systems of all religions as well as the ancient philosophers..and I could go on and on. I can now travel the world and talk to the majority of people about so many topics because we share the same education and basic knowledges that we all learned during this time. How to cook, clean or talk to your boss, how to take out insurance or write a letter, how to do your taxes and how to write on a keyboard with ten fingers? I learned all these things just by observing and asking my parents AFTER school and you know what? Learning French in school (starting at the age of 11) only gave me the opportunity to study it in my twenties and living there for a year, my parents could have never tought me that and I am forever grateful for school AND my parents who tought me how it feels to be loved unconditionally (something school can't teach you). Sutton I feel like whenever you speak about your kids you just radiate pure love for them. So I wonder why in the world you would think that spanking them would be a good idea? Would you feel good being spanked by your husband if you don't do what he wants you to do? So why would it be okay to do it to your kids who can't even defend themselves because they still depend on you in every way possible? In Germany spanking kids is illegal and for good reasons: it harms them emotionally because they are being mistreated by people they depend on and love the most. If you spank a kid they will not learn why something is wrong and how their bad behaviour harms others they will only avoid doing it again out of fear; just like a well-conditioned dog who doesn't have a clue why he can't hop on the couch but knows that every time he does he gets beaten. I hope you think about this in a quiet moment and especially for people who follow a religion who has a loving and forgiving god at its core, I just can't wrap my head arount how this would go well together.
I really enjoy your channel, Nate and Sutton. Your content is edifying and refreshing. However as a school teacher I have to disagree with you about not learning anything I would use in school later. In just a few minutes I thought of telling time, addition and subtraction, reading, tying my shoes, and how to write well. I am sure there are lots of other things. Just thought I would respond! Thanks!
Yes for sure! Those are things we learned kindergarten-5th grade which we mentioned is def a crucial time of schooling! A lot of important info! It’s the 6-12th grade that we struggle with 😅
I completely disagree w spanking. You shld never ever ever get physical w a child or anyone else. I’ve raised 4 daughters into adulthood and never once Wld I ever spank a child.
From a biblical perspective of child rearing we are called to do so. I’m glad your daughters turned out great but never undermined the importance the Bible placed on this topic especially with the correlation between how few people spank now a days and how corrupt our society has become!
@@PineappleQTpie physically hurting any other being is not biblical AND it’s against the law . I’m sorry I will have to strongly disagree with you here .
I struggled with this topic, since it is literally prohibited by law to spank your children in my country. We don’t spank. Lots of prayer led us to conclude that spanking children is not mirroring Jesus in raising our children. There are other effective ways to discipline. We don’t want our children to grow up and view their childhood as abusive that they were abused as kids. But, I do understand where people are coming from that do spank their children. Especially when you live in a community with lots of fellow Christians with similar views on this topic.
My AP US history teacher played clips from American idol during class and never taught us history. I passed the exam because I studied hard myself. I think history can be very valuable in understanding how to vote and be a good citizen. Knowing patterns throughout history and the results of certain patterns can help citizens make informed voting decisions and hopefully help us have a better country.
Yes yes yes to the education! We homeschool going into my 5th year. I am SO thrilled to see how and what I get to teach 😀! You will love it so much! Spending time with them and educating them the way you think is so important!
5 things I learned and I feel like everyone should have the chance to experience:
- an understanding for basic science i really take advantage of everyday in Med School
- getting used to test situations and other stress situations I am dealing with all the time at university
- I felt like discussions and debating in different situations (let it be a class or at lunch) taught me a lot for life and about other people
- developing learning strategies, a sense for what's important to know and what isn't and also just improving learning skills and training your brain to filter and also remember things
but most importantly:
- interaction and social skills through dealing with nice and not so nice other kids
And I feel like that is of enormous meaning for your entire life, it really is all about interacting and understanding other people. A person who is good with people will get so much further in life in so many ways. Also learning to deal with people you don't naturally get along with is vital. Learning to deal with rejection or negative experiences and understanding and developing a way to process that is so much easier when you're still living at home with the support of your family and parents and not in a college dorm by yourself. So much easier than being let out in the big wide world all by yourself for the first time when starting college, not having made any of those experiences before.
Fortunately all of those experiences are available through homeschooling, along with being in the actual real world. I have never experienced another social situition with same-aged peers other than school, and at school the rule was usually"no talking." Public school was/is so homogenous. Maybe people assume homeschoolers stay home all the time???
Also, learning to love my siblings would have been the BEST way to learn how to get along with others. It's still a struggle. 😅
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In school: I learned history which i indirectly use with how my political beliefs are formed, i learned basic biology that I use in medical school, I learned how to type very quickly without looking at the keys, i learned how to sing from sheet music (which is helpful for hymns etc), I also took a finance class that taught the basics on money management (subsidized vs unsubsidized loans, etc).
5 things I learned In an Australian high school between 13 and 17:
1. Problem solving skills
2. Conflict resolution skills
3. Essay and report writing skills (critical for university)
4. Legal studies - I learned about debating, the laws, the systems Australia is built upon etc. Which provides me with a bunch of understanding about A LOT.
5. Biology - whilst at the time much of it seemed irrelevant, I built knowledge that helped me understand my body, how to take care of it, what it needs etc. And an understanding of illness, rest, medical treatments (to a baseline of course - I am not a doctor).
I could go on too! Australia does a great job in my opinion of making sure that what you learn is relevant. I’m now studying to be a teacher and the curriculum and how teachers are taught to teach us all about linking things to the real world and making things relevant! :)
I'm Australian too and I find that school here is pretty helpful
I am interested in which high school lol. It's ok but all kids are different.
I think the things that I learned in school that have impacted me the most now are honestly things that were elective.
1. Marching band taught me discipline & accountability
2. Music classes prepared me for studying music in college
3. Travel & tourism & global studies courses prepared me for my job now that involves planning international travel
4. Civil rights & leadership class taught me a lot about social justice and the importance of history
5. Photography class taught me photoshop skills that I use in my job now
Honestly, I've tried the "list 5 things" and I couldn't even stop at 5 😅 sure I don't use the periodic table really, or some advanced maths stuff but these are not the most important things you can learn in school I believe. So here's my 5+1 list, but honestly, I could go on:
1. How to socialize and to respect everyone's beliefs even if they don't align with yours
2. My love for books and analizing texts
3. The connection between historical actiond and nowaday actions
4. How our society and countries are built and how they work
5. How to follow a daily routine, how to study and work effectively
+1: English as a second language and the basics of every subject
All agreed. I'm a teacher. Watching my students debate fairly; get into an expected routine; learning the importance of respecting different races, ethnicities, culture, without thinking their race reigns supreme is beautiful. They love learning all of history, not a surface level history (we talk a lot t about the contributions made by Native Americans, not just Christopher Columbus.) Watching them resolve conflict on their own; participate in clubs; work hard on winning spelling bees, reading bowl, math challenges; while remembering that winning is not the most important thing. And I like that they see the good, bad, and ugly. They learn so much about what NOT to do when they see the ugly side, but it's important for them to see it. School is so much more than the classes that are often taught they may not apply to your individual career choice. The most important thing is raising a well-rounded child that can exist in a diverse world.
Really appreciate your relationship, humor, and truth telling. I come from a bit of a broken household that was not Christian. So I learn a lot about family and living well while pursuing God watching y'all! Nate thanks for keeping it real! And your calm strength that you have is inspiring. Blessings to your whole family!!
I agree Nate. Education is so important and it starts with valuing it in the home. Homeschool is a great option if you can do it. God bless!
I am an emergency department/trauma nurse & I would not have made it here without the chemistry, biology, anatomy, math, and work ethic/study habits that I learned in high school. I definitely agree that not everybody needs to go to college; trades are awesome! But your child might not know what they want to do by highschool, so maybe having the classes needed to expand their options is good. Just some thoughts, but I understand your perspective:)
It is so refreshing to hear y’all talk about the same things my husband and I are concerned about when it comes to our kids education and discipline and health!
And Thank you for being so real. For the first time ever, I think I’ve found a TH-cam couple that aligns with so much of my belief system and isn’t ashamed to speak it. So, thank you both for being open and Real!
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Public school teacher here! I just wanted to give some insight from an Elementary perspective. K-5 is crucial for learning how to read, write, and develop math skills. Not only that but also navigating relationships with others kids the same age and how to interact with other kids/people in general. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have!
😂😂 I love how honest you guys are, it’s refreshing and yeah I can’t remember anything I learnt in high school that is beneficial for my life now
I love this! and Sutton, I'm with you on the botox thing. Ever since Covid, I want to be the most natural I can possibly be.
I took a class in high school that taught me how to completely run a business . The class prepared me to follow a career in finance. Also I wanted to let Nate know that engineers and architects need algebra and calculus. I agree that we don’t always learn things that will follow us in life. I believe it is important to learn how your child learns and their strong suits to expand on it and play to their strengths.
I was homeschooled from grade 2-12. It was the best experience ever! Though I'll emphasise that my sisters and I did a lot of academic studying (Maths, English, Science, History...etc). We all went to universities after so our parents wanted to set us up to have very high academic standards and education to go anywhere with our careers in the future. But we also got to do heaps of other things that school kids don't do heaps or none of (classes in sewing/dressmaking, embroidery, knitting/crotchet and cooking, a tone of music, home economics,...etc) because there is so much less waist of time when you homeschool (no travel, no waiting in class until everyone gets the concept, no bullying nonsense...etc,) you get to do heaps of of other things because there is time for it :) and above all we got to learn from godly examples and soak ourselves in God's word everyday in a way that one can't get in any school even if it's a Christian school.
The part that I did enjoy from public school is just being around all types of kids, learning new cultures, ideas, social interaction. The educational part that I use every single day is everything I learned in the areas of math, geometry, English, Extra curricular activities, student council, debate, art clubs and just the accomplishment of finishing high school with my friends. 🤷🏽♀️
I’m a homeschool grad and now nurse! I love what you shared about school- do it! It’s worth it. Get them into the trades and yes you be the one in charge of the their education. The farther I get into life and the more people I meet the more thankful I am for my parents choice in my education.
Hey! I am a new nurse! What kind of department do you work in? :)
Love Nate’s passion about homeschooling!!! I’m a homeschool momma!!! Currently teaching my boy an auto class to learn all things about a vehicle and changing tires, checking oil, Ect. My 11th grader is learning about finances, budgeting, balancing checkbooks, and filing taxes this year!!!!
Nate, I 1000% agree with you on the school subject. We're choosing to homeschool our children next year. 4th grader, 8th grader and Kindergarten. God has shown my husband and I lots of things since 2020.
Yes. 5 things 1) how to type, 2) use the Dewey decimal library system, 3) participating in teams, working with others, 4) history of slavery and the United states. Yes because I use this and the process of evaluating what history says, a ton of times, if not everyday, at least once a week. 5) the value of staying in touch with friends through the years. If not only at school but the value.
I'm an Environmental Consultant by profession and Chemical Engineer by training and I'm so thankful for the sciences. Whilst I rarely (read never) apply algebra and most scientific principles in my day to day work since I use a lot of programming tools, I am so thankful to know the foundational aspects of the subjects and I would not have been able to pursue an Engineering degree without being equiped with knowledge from these subjects. Another subject I'm particularly thankful for is Biology. My parents were mostly avoidant when it came to subjects around sex and reproduction so learning it in school without undertones of shame and Taboo really helped me understand the mechanisms of my body. I think education has multiple facets of application, whilst you apply some aspects of education directly into your everyday life, other aspects are meant to invoke curiosity or train you in critical thinking. I am not against homeschooling, just really appreciate education in general.
I love, love, love your opinion about homeschooling you children and education! It brings me so much encouragement to know I'm not alone in this area. I'm only 16 and know I want to homeschool my future children. I was homeschooled through 5th grade and have been going to a Christian school since then, and will finish there. Thanks for sharing and your complete honesty!
I went to a private Catholic school. Sure, I learnt some useless stuff, but I enjoyed learning. Things like history and world religions, fine tuning my writing ability, and performing in front of my peers- I wouldn't change my experience for the world.
I wouldn't trade my schooling for anything. No, I don't use all the academics taught, but man did I learn diversity; coping skills with those outside of my family; culture, and the importance of learning how and why people think the way they do. I loved the field trips with friends, and some of those friends felt like family. I loved history and basic science. I loved learning that I wasn't the center of everything; I had to respect authority. I loved my parents, but I wouldn't have been interested in being taught by them. Plus, my mom did teach me necessities for life. I graduated knowing how to balance a checkbook, cook a meal, wash my own laundry etc. School is so much more than algebra, chemistry etc.
1. We learned how to tell if a number is divisible by a number. So, I know that 1102032 is evenly divisible by 9 without checking. 2. The constitution test I took in 8th grade has been useful lately. 3. I learned how to check the BOLS for the projection of the job outlook. 4. I learned how to make a job resume in high school. 5. I learned that I am capable of doing great things. 6. I learned how to work hard.
Five things I learned from early school through end of high school:
(For context, I started in public elementary, then was homeschooled for grades 4-7, then private Christian high school for grades 8-12)
1. My Christian high school was setup like a university. In 10th-12th, we took a 3 hr/wk “worldview” class. My senior year, the professor - double PhD, former presidential speech writer - took us through the entire history of modern philosophy. Like, that was the class. 9h/week, for an entire year. That class - and more importantly, that professor - taught my how to be curious, how to think critically, how to ask questions, how to be aware, and how to reason.
2. My algebra teacher always said “go back to what you know!” I don’t use that for algebra lol, but, that idea stuck with me and I still remind myself!
3. Another teacher told us “sometimes, your homework doesn’t get done.” That idea that it is OKAY to prioritize, even if that means not being perfect, or cutting things that’re seen as “must-do’s,” if those things are not helping you grow closer to your goals.
4. My biology teacher taught us we’re “all just big bags o’ chemicals.” It bothered me a lot at the time, and also confused me, as she was a Christian teacher who taught creationism etc. Now that I’m 30, I’m finally beginning to realize how right she is. And more importantly, that that’s not at odds with belief in God - God _made_ these “bags of chemicals,” and actually acknowledging the effect chemicals have on us empowers us to be mindful of things like how nutrition, vitamins, exercise, necessary medications, etc affect our daily functioning.
5. When I was homeschooled during the end of elementary thru middle school, I learned how to be successful at tedious tasks - for ME, personally. How? Gotta get up bright and very early, before anyone else is up, and then I can do those tasks. That’s it. Do I do that nowadays? Nope lol; but I’m a work in progress, especially as I’ve learned more about ADHD neuroscience etc. But FOURTH grade me got to be a pro at waking up at 6:45 to do my math homework at the dark kitchen table lol. Now to just get to that place again 😆
Thank you for sharing. Since the covid situation, we too have decided to not vaccinate our babies. My 3 year old has had all vaccines up to date, but my 7 month old hasn't had any for the exact same reasons. I heard someone say something that comforted us in our decision making as we were feeling the pressure as the appointment was drawing close and we were undecided on what to do "You can always decide to vaccinate at any age, but you can't take something out that has already been put in". So yes, our decisions may change in the future, but for the moment, we are quite content in our decision. Candace Owens is currently releasing episodes on her podcast called "A Shot in the darK" which is revealing many truths about vaccines that we as parents are just so unaware of.
It's definitely a scary time, but we have faith that we serve a God that Loves us and will protect us.
We might not learn specific things in school that you can use in life since everyone lives different but I still think it’s useful because of the same approach with critical thinking in certain situations
I feel like it depends what your career is after high school. For me I wanted to major in Marine Biology, so all those classes that you might find unnecessary for me were very helpful and really allowed me to know whether Marine Biology was the way to go. So, you can be preventing your kids from following their dreams not letting go to real school but, I do understand where your coming from and I agree with the many things you said so.
If we wouldn’t hit our spouses or family member for misbehaving, we shouldn’t do it to a child. Children don’t differentiate between a spoon or your hand. They just see the person they’re supposed to trust hurting them. Agree with lots of other stuff you said tho
No not necessarily true, sometimes sitting them down countless times and talking to them does nothing. I got a lot of spanking, and looking back I 100 percent deserved every single of them 😂. It didn’t make me hate my parents, even as a kid I didn’t even get that feeling of hatred, but more so sad and mad. It forced me to act better, I never got spank just for the sake of it.
@@el1e869 you were abused by your parents, congrats.
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If we love ourselves on the inside, it will show our beauty on the outside. 🤞🏼
Yes ma'am!!
Guys I LOVE the honesty!! It’s hard to learn anything from TH-camrs or take advice when everybody sugar coats everything and won’t tell you their actual opinions, parenting methods, etc. I wish more people would say what they’re actually thinking! Thank you for this refreshing video😊
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5 things I learnt and use from high school
I work as a support worker/ nurse in a rest home setting
1) chemical titration equation, for making/checking appropriate medicine doses
2) Learning what musical chords are by hearing them, helps to develop music and composing skills
3) Careers Class, taught to write a CV, Cover letters, Defensive driving etc...
4) Scientific report writing, writing help medical documents to help determine the course for the resident.
5) Physics class, learning the fundamentals to apply force in ways to distribute weight to move things easier or to understand things such as how to fix specific equipment.
I found it was a important thing to go to high school, however I did my final year by correspondence, both worked for me but in the end it depends on the kid and how they learn. What's best for one kid isn't best for the other.
I was homeschooled all the way through highschool with my brother's.
1. Christian apolagitics/Christian world view
2. Spelling
3. Sewing one of my favorite hobbies and useful for making dresses.
4. Self discipline my last few years of highschool was me mostly teaching my self with my school books.
5. Logic, I learned mostly about logical fallacies which is useful conversations and anylizing the news.
Bonus! 6. Geography I don't have to look at a map every time the news or some one mentions another country.
I loved being homeschooled. I Learned a lot from the experience and was able to do more things like traveling or learning different skills that wouldn't have been possible if I was in school.
This is why I love homeschooling
I mean all of this are good to learn, but if everyone did this there would be no doctors, lawyers etc.
What a refreshing start haha! God bless you, Sutton and Nate! I'm very thankful for your videos, your content really inspires and helps me :) I'm so happy that you keep creating videos even though you have a busy life. I pray for you, your third baby and your two cute boys! Greetings from Germany💕
Thank you! 🙏🏽💛
Hi there!!! I love Germany! I have a great grandma who came to America on a boat sometime around 1900. I have her picture sitting in my kitchen nook, it has my great grandmother & great grandfather with their ten kids including my grandpa who was the oldest child! My grandpa said he remembered when he was growing up that my German born grandma would cuss in German when she got mad, lol!!!!! Her name was Anna Lutzkesel, and I'm sad that I'm not sure if I spelled that last name right🤷. Anyway, God bless you and sending much love from Indiana, USA.❤️
@@goinghome1191 How sweet, thank u!
What a funny story😂
It's crazy bc my father's cousin lives in the USA, so we both have connections to the other country somhow haha!
God bless u too :)
My interest in Nursing came in high school. An understanding for basic science really helped me prepare for nursing school. I really valued my catholic school education
I could never imagine hurting someone I loved 😢 a 5 year old can’t read how do you expect them to know everything about their emotions
Thanks to my public education...
1. I learned how to use proper grammar to speak, write, and type.
2. I learned how to speak in public, including how to debate others.
3. I learned how to research and back up my claims with sourced evidence.
4. I learned how to work with others, including people I don't agree with and people who think and work differently than I do.
5. I learned a tremendous amount about human behavior in my psychology class.
Honorable mention: I learned how to play an instrument and read music.
I could go on and on...
Thanks for being bold about not vaccinating your babies :)
I agree! It's so nice to hear them state their opinions unapologetically
Nate "I'm tired of holding back on TH-cam" 😅😅😅 I truly Love y'all's honesty 🥰
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I love what you said about spanking! Not many talk about or do spanking anymore so this was nice! I got spanked as a child, and I see in so many ways that it helped me respect my parents and obey and I want the same for my children! Also the part that you talked about how to discipline in public, helped so much! I'm always on the hunt on how to discipline in public, but not tell them "wait till we're home". Putting them in the carseat until they decide they want to behave, such a good idea! Thank you so much for the video, love your guys parenting, and Christianity views❤️
5 things is easy: German, Italian, Spanish, History of Medicine, Literature Skills. I have a degree from Oxford and used a lot of my school knowledge whilst studying language and culture at university. What counts even more is the transferable skills I learnt at school that are of immense value in the wider world - analytical skills, teamwork, social skills. If a kid wants to be a doctor how do you think you’re going to teach them all of that scientific understanding at home if you haven’t studied it? How are you going to teach a kid to speak a foreign language if you can’t speak one? Instead of ruling out school maybe you should be more selective about which schools you pick and spend some of your money on a really good education that will give your kids a proper start in life rather than tethering them to the narrow confines of your home and state.
Candace Owens podcast on parlour called a shot in the dark about all the childhood vaccines is a great thing to listen to
i truly appreciate your vulnerability and honesty, it sets you apart from anyone else on youtube,
truly. i always enjoy your videos! thank you and God bless!!
Have been homeschooling my 12 year old and 8 year old for two years now. It's wonderful to give them the one-on-one attention, and they are thriving both as students and as members of our family. I'm so glad I've had this extended time with them and that we left the rat race of private school. Our private school was wonderful, but we were busy all the time. And I agree with you it's more about childcare than necessity.
HOWEVER, I love the classics and personally learned a lot in school. The more intelligent a person is, the more inquiring the mind is. Learning can be very interesting and enriching, whether you use everything you studied or not.
Honestly, it was very difficult to think of five things I use every day from middle/high school. I didn't think it would be, but y'all make a very valid point. I only have one:
1. Grammar skills. My high school English teacher my senior year taught me more about grammar and sentence structure than any other I ever had, and I still replay major points of his lectures in my head every day when I write to help keep me on track. I'm in college now, so his teaching has been very helpful.
I did gain a lot of important social skills and learned a lot of life lessons during my middle and high school years, but as far as actual schoolwork, I can't think of anything else.
I agree with teaching kids useful stuff...but the other school subjects are important too! Not in a "direct" way, but they shape your mind and acculturate you.
Childcare for 6th-12th? Those were the best of days at school. I learned so much and it gave me confidence for college and my high school friends and our tie to high school, geez y’all need to go and visit schools and see the atmosphere and level of education.
saying "I want them to feel isolated and emotional pain" AND laughing about something that could traumatize your children is sick.
I’m homeschooling my kids. Started this year in preschool and it’s so much fun!
Oh my Lanta. I have loved watching y’all over the years. And this was so good. Laughed a lot at this one and Nate be real for TH-cam hahahaha that’s awesome!!! God is doing a work in y’all’s life and it’s fun to get to watch and “hangout” on my lunch breaks in the office 😂😏
I love what you're saying on education! I also want my kids to have a practical, useful, godly education.
LOL this brings me so much joy. Thanks for the honesty. It’s rare now.
From my middle and high school years, I personally learnt:
- 3 foreign languages at school that I still use to this day
- how to write in an academic/formal way which is a skill that I need on a regular basis.
- discipline and hard work: by having to wake up early everyday and prepare for exams
- how to work in a team
- presentation skills
Thanks for this great video btw. This was super interesting!
I watched episodes of the series 'Vaccine Revealed' a few years ago which completely opened my eyes on the truth about vaccines and all the harm they have caused to humanity. Unfortunately, this information is being heavily censored nowadays so it becomes increasingly hard to find this type of high-quality content.
Love love love that y’all speak in stuff many TH-camrs are so fearful to answer the hard questions yet brag about being transparent . So glad y’all spoke on spanking nowadays I feel people are so scared to even mention they spank or that it will break they’re spirit . But I was raised like y’all to spanking and everything but good talks after to and lots of love and I came out fine .
Love the honesty, so refreshing. Sutton you inspire me so much on how to hold myself as a woman and a wife! My husband and I just had our first baby and we named him Oaklan- the midwives asked how I thought of such a unique name and I passed all the credit to you guys for having such an impression on my life! God bless all the way from Australia! x
P.S. Nate you crack me up 😂
Aw you are so sweet! Congratulations on your baby! So cool they can share a name 🤩
Nate:
I learned how to step out of my comfort zone.
I learned how to speak in front of the class.
I learned about my dream job.
I learned how to speak Spanish.
I learned different techniques of drawing. (I'm passionate about this.)
I learned those from 6th to 12th grade. I guess it depends on the person.🤣🤣🤣 Love you guys!
I loved how you approached this by how you arrive at certain decisions, and talked about this is in an honest way.
That’s interesting about school. It’s easy for me to think of 5 things, so I guess I can be your “one off”. 1) I learned how to speak Spanish well, and I use that in my job and town. 2) I use statistics to understand and assess the programs I’m responsible for at work. 3) I learned how to better write. I always used past participles, but I love writing and feel like I gained tools all the way through high school. 4) Our high school taught CPR in Health class, as well as other safety techniques, and I’m so thankful to have those in my “back pocket“ for every day life. 5) I learned about geography that helped me figure out where people are as I hear about them, from missionaries, from news, and other sources. 6) I learned so many other life lessons… like how to be brave enough to present in front of others (which terrified me, but now I love - and do through work) or exercising using my voice/agency (dropped physics based on my experience) or teamwork with band or my photojournalism class (both which fed my ways to express my creativity, which I feel is a God given passion and skill in my life)… interesting that this is your strong passion area. Food for thought.
I'm studying education at the moment, so I can definitely use my knowledge from school. I do understand where Nate is coming from, and I hope that I can drive change in the education system!
You're right about the V. Don't ever get sucked in.
When we read 1984 in 1984. And now I'm living in a world like 1984. But you don't need to go to school to read that book and discuss it.
Wow the part about schooling and disciplining was so interesting, should definitely do an entire video on that sometime !
Id like to know more about disciplining your kids.its very useful to know biblical way of teaching boundaries and respect.
Wow I respect and agree with Nate’s passion against the school system. I hated school growing up and I always felt school destroyed my real dreams and aspirations.
I could have been an athlete, or a writer, two of my biggest passions and school just exhausted me to a point of depression and not having motivation to pursue anything.
I know many people who, like me, loved to read growing up and when school got too much with giving us all the stupid useless material to study for endless tests and exams, it just became so overwhelming to read anything for pleasure
Some advice I’m just gonna put out there to keep in mind about public/in-school learning is how vital in can be if your child is interested in pursuing STEM in uni. As someone who just finished their honours biochem degree, I can’t imagine having gone through it without having any lab experience whatsoever or experience in lab report writing. I’m not saying it’s impossible, it would just be jarring at first!
I also think it’s funny that Nate brought up knowing the elements of the periodic table…because I use that every day 😂
Probably an assumption to overcome, but homeschool kids do lab sciences, often in real labs, and have more opportunities for STEM than those confined to a school building all day. So many more opportunities available through the flexibility of homeschooling.
Lol Nate's laugh at 22:50 when he talked about taking the kids to the car when they misbehave had me in stitches 😂😂😂😂.
5 things....I learned to write very well.
I learned American history and had a great teacher who taught us about our so important Constitution. I learned great leadership skills through sports. I believe Algebra trains your brain in a way that basic math cannot. Our required reading tremendously increased my vocabulary levels. We learned basic biology and scientific thought.
I love your guys honesty !! You should do more videos where you tell us exactly how it is and exactly how you feel… I’m still young and I have already learnt so many life lessons from your videos so thank you ;)
You both are so lovely together. Enjoyed this. God bless!
Well done Nate and Sutton regarding vaccinating yourselves and your children. God has truly enlighten and opened yours eye in my humble opinion. You are blessed, all of you. Amen
Sutton, try Frownies. They are patches you wear at night that help keep your forehead from moving and therefore helping to ease your wrinkles. They are awesome and cheap! I'm too scared of botox and these are a great natural alternative!
You guys are hilarious!! Your honesty is very refreshing and much appreciated :)
Totally agree!:)
This is by far one of my favorites y'all have done. Don't hold back! 🤣
I love your ideas about homeschool. That's exactly what they do around here where we live. Homeschool groups will go to different homes to learn practical things from them because of their expertise. Great idea
That’s awesome!
That's so rare in my area that when I tell them that if I get married and end up pregnant or decide to adopt kids that they are definitely getting homeschooled for the first 4 years and I'll take them to school for 2 years and allow them to decide which is best for them
I dont agree, many school classes like algebra, although arguably not practically useful, teach children how to think and solve problems. If you know how to think, all of these “practical” things become trivial to learn and understand, and can be self taught later on!
@@Mr5432177 I didn't say kids shouldn't learn algebra. (I think Nate did though haha) I'm highlighting the real world involvement of home school groups in my area to learn meaningful and practical life skills. It's an added enrichment to the fundamentals of school subjects. If they are seeing real world examples and learning meaningful skills and say Hey I'd like to have this occupation because of it and algebra is involved, then of course algebra will be useful to learn for their success and they will be more apt to learning it. And they will learn it better because it becomes more relevant. I know I've always retained something better if it was relevant. That's how the brain works, it will hang on to what is necessary and dump what isn't.
Yeah, the school educational system is not perfect, but I learnt how to think critically, where to find information and how to verify it, how to distinguish facts from falsehoods, it allowed me not to live in a vacuum not knowing anything about the history of mankind, the world or our own culture, but to be able to understand other people better.
I was homeschooled, but these would be my five.
1. How to think critically about literature and writing
2. How to speak in front of a group of people
3. How to discuss/debate different ideas in a group setting
4. How I learn best
5. How to research specific topics
Babe, if you ever need help getting out of that relationship, I promise you there are people in this comment section who will help you, me being one of them. I know what it's like growing up with religious indoctrination, and if you ever need help deconstructing, I gotchu. I'm so sorry you've so thoroughly had your own voice stripped away. I hope you find it again one day💛
One of my best friends was home schooled while I went to public school. I think one of the main draw backs of home school is the social aspect. In school, I was able to participate in plays, band/orchestra, sports, etc. Obviously you can do these things outside of school as well, but it’s nice when it’s part of your day. On the flip side, my friend was able to study what she wanted to study, on her time. So, I think she was able to learn more that aligned with her interests.
There’s tradeoffs for both, and I think it depends on the kid what’s best. As your kids get older, it might be worth letting them do a semester or year in school for middle/high school and see if that fits them better or home schooling. Education is not a one size fits all situation, so I totally see the case on both sides. Thanks for sharing! Always enjoying your videos :)
i love the idea of homeschooling and sometimes wish i had been homeschooled. the only thing i would say is do not just limit your kids to learning christianity. theres so many other historical lessons and cultural beliefs in other religions that are interesting and can teach your kids a lot learning wise. religion is one thing but history is another and even though you don't believe in greek mythology for example, that does not mean it is less interesting or historical for your kids. :) i grew up catholic and loved learning about other religions in catholic school like mythology, buddhism, islam, and judaism. they're so intriguing and give a whole other perspective about life and the world, which are things everyone should be aware of.
Totally agree about the school system and the lack of trust in vaccines after Covid.
Great advice concerning child discipline! Respectfully, I would like to say that there is no such thing as "karma", per say. From a Christian, biblical point of view, you might say, "You reap what you sow."
Algebra, the periodic table and physics all of this is taught so that children can have basic knowledge of stuff if they want to pursue it in university.
Of course everything taught in school isn't useful in the future but they teach you all this so that you can decide which field you like and would want to persue
I have 4 kids and we've been homeschooling from the start !! I think it's important to learn about christ first then useful things and the child's interests!!! There is so much flexibility in homeschooling. The bible tells us parents teach your children
..not send your children off to learn from others . So enjoy watching you two!!!
I love you guys! I have been watching you for years now and think you are fabulous God-fearing parents but have noticed since Oakley was little how relaxed you are with your spanking 😅 I have three boys & a baby girl (six years and younger) so I understand how overwhelming this stage is. We are pausing with vaxs for all of our children and homeschooling too 💕
5 things I learned in middle school and high school. I use my typing skills ALL THE TIME! I was in FFA and so I learned responsibility to take care of important things. I learned from FFA to make speeches and leadership skills for meetings and activities. I learned really well from my English teacher how to write a research paper and I used it a lot in college and now to write Bible studies in our ministry. I also learned that people are horrible and unfair and mean and you need to learn how to deal with them because no matter where you go there are awful people. My history teacher was HORRIBLE but he did a good job of making us keep up with current events and that stayed with me. WE had current event daily quizzes and I thought that was a valuable skill. All that said, I homeschool my kids because I don’t want my kids in school NOW>. I was in a small school that was in a great community. Those hardly exist now.
I am so excited to hear you guys want to homeschool! I am second oldest of 9 kids and my mom homeschooled has homeschooled us all the way through! Anybody can do it as long as God is your foundation and that you have a community of other homeschool families around you!! I truly believe God wants parents to disciple and train your children up in the Lord as opposed to sending them to a teacher for 8 hours a day! Yep, Nate, I’m right there with you! Passionate 😆
School is there to give you a taste test of different things so that you later on (after being presented with many different things) can make a decision about what you want any enjoy doing in life. Obviously, you can not start teaching someone the same maths as you learn to become an engineer, you have to start with the basics, same goes for all the other subjects. If you as parents homeschool your kids it is more likely that you will teach them about the things that you enjoy, but perhaps they would have been more successful in something you know less about. They would also miss out on the very important part of being around other kids, not just the kids you choose to put them in contact with.
I agree!!!
This is inspiring!
Writing a check and taxes and addressing and envelope are things that your parents should have taught you, it is not the school's responsibility. If your parents didn't teach you that, they failed, not the school system.
What a great idea to have your child follow around a carpenter or a cook or another professional, that is definitely going down in my notes! We are moving from CA soon and found a small private Christian school for our kids, but I definitely will find ways to teach them life skills. It helps that my husband is a diy guy and especially in cars. My hope is that my kids can grow their own businesses from their passions and interests.
One thing you can never learn enough in school is proper grammar and spelling. It's insane the lack of proper English used by fairly educated people. You never start a sentence with the word mine. You never begin a sentence with "Me and X..." It's always, "X and I..." Spelling is another thing. I cannot go anywhere and not see a misspelling or a grammatical error. They're on billboards, and menus and of course the internet. So, yes. There are things that can be taught and need to be taught in school during the middle school and high school years.
It's not the topics that I learned in MS and HS that concern me. It's the topics that are now being taught that we did not learn that concern me. I am currently reading Mama Bear Apologetics: Sexuality and it has really committed me to homeschooling my baby (7 months old currently - so preparing very early)
I truly don't see any reason to lay hands on your child. I'm personally traumatised from being spanked and hearing my brother getting spanked. You're just teaching them that violence is ok. Sure you're not beating them to a pulp but it's fear induced parenting!
I mean I only finished 9th grade but I still can’t really mention anything that I found useful so far, my parents switched over to homeschool during COVID, and it is much better, and I love the idea of going to work with like I carpenter or someone like that, I’m actually going to work with my uncle for a couple of days in construction. It has really helped though to have God with me throughout my journey of life and don’t know what I would do without him.
That’s awesome!
Your thoughts on schooling are right on! I grew up in public school, but I've been homeschooling for over a decade.
Well Nate you just demonstrated that indeed you did not learn what you were supposed to from middle school to graduation: The variety and complexity of science, different points of views, different ways of viewing the world (not just through the Christian lense). Of course, by homeschooling your kids you will absolutely make sure that they become just as close-minded as you are, that they only learn how YOU and your Christian belief system view the world and you make sure that they don't get in touch with people that are different, gay, disabled, socially awkward or just non-Christian. I cannot speak for the American school system but just so you know I learned way more than five things during this time in Germany that I use very often or that are just so important to know in general: two foreign languages, the history of the World and my own country in particular, a basic understanding of natural science (yes it's good and interesting to know why objects fall down, that the earth revolves around the sun, what DNA is and how plants grow), painting techniques in art class, playing team sports according to official rules, learning how to work together with other students, prepare speeches, learn about the belief systems of all religions as well as the ancient philosophers..and I could go on and on. I can now travel the world and talk to the majority of people about so many topics because we share the same education and basic knowledges that we all learned during this time. How to cook, clean or talk to your boss, how to take out insurance or write a letter, how to do your taxes and how to write on a keyboard with ten fingers? I learned all these things just by observing and asking my parents AFTER school and you know what? Learning French in school (starting at the age of 11) only gave me the opportunity to study it in my twenties and living there for a year, my parents could have never tought me that and I am forever grateful for school AND my parents who tought me how it feels to be loved unconditionally (something school can't teach you).
Sutton I feel like whenever you speak about your kids you just radiate pure love for them. So I wonder why in the world you would think that spanking them would be a good idea? Would you feel good being spanked by your husband if you don't do what he wants you to do? So why would it be okay to do it to your kids who can't even defend themselves because they still depend on you in every way possible? In Germany spanking kids is illegal and for good reasons: it harms them emotionally because they are being mistreated by people they depend on and love the most. If you spank a kid they will not learn why something is wrong and how their bad behaviour harms others they will only avoid doing it again out of fear; just like a well-conditioned dog who doesn't have a clue why he can't hop on the couch but knows that every time he does he gets beaten. I hope you think about this in a quiet moment and especially for people who follow a religion who has a loving and forgiving god at its core, I just can't wrap my head arount how this would go well together.
I really enjoy your channel, Nate and Sutton. Your content is edifying and refreshing. However as a school teacher I have to disagree with you about not learning anything I would use in school later. In just a few minutes I thought of telling time, addition and subtraction, reading, tying my shoes, and how to write well. I am sure there are lots of other things. Just thought I would respond! Thanks!
Yes for sure! Those are things we learned kindergarten-5th grade which we mentioned is def a crucial time of schooling! A lot of important info! It’s the 6-12th grade that we struggle with 😅
I completely disagree w spanking. You shld never ever ever get physical w a child or anyone else. I’ve raised 4 daughters into adulthood and never once Wld I ever spank a child.
From a biblical perspective of child rearing we are called to do so. I’m glad your daughters turned out great but never undermined the importance the Bible placed on this topic especially with the correlation between how few people spank now a days and how corrupt our society has become!
@@PineappleQTpie the bible also tells to let children be eaten by a bear when they make fun of a bald man. 🙃
@@PineappleQTpie physically hurting any other being is not biblical AND it’s against the law . I’m sorry I will have to strongly disagree with you here .
I struggled with this topic, since it is literally prohibited by law to spank your children in my country. We don’t spank. Lots of prayer led us to conclude that spanking children is not mirroring Jesus in raising our children. There are other effective ways to discipline. We don’t want our children to grow up and view their childhood as abusive that they were abused as kids. But, I do understand where people are coming from that do spank their children. Especially when you live in a community with lots of fellow Christians with similar views on this topic.
@@carolcurotto6144 is it against the law in America too? It is in my country!
My AP US history teacher played clips from American idol during class and never taught us history. I passed the exam because I studied hard myself. I think history can be very valuable in understanding how to vote and be a good citizen. Knowing patterns throughout history and the results of certain patterns can help citizens make informed voting decisions and hopefully help us have a better country.
Yes yes yes to the education! We homeschool going into my 5th year. I am SO thrilled to see how and what I get to teach 😀! You will love it so much! Spending time with them and educating them the way you think is so important!
I highly recommend Danny Silk lovingnyour kids on purpose and Seth Dahl Win win parenting on disciplining.