I found this video to be quite frightening, actually: a discussion of all the technology used to catch human beings with no thought or mention of the plight of the human beings themselves. Gave me chills. I'm a scientist so not a stranger to the idea of abstracting a problem and modeling, and of course the technology is interesting, but I don't like to see us disregarding the humanity of our subjects or the complexity of our social issues.
Somewhere there you spoke of the probability of a certain check finding a person that is on a lorry being part of the simulation. How do you determine how likely it is that the person will be found by this check? I guess testing different orderings of the various tests might give you a clue, but even then it's only a relative efficiency. Or do you test it by sending a thousand lorries that you know have people hidden but the local people don't through the check you're testing? If so, do the people manning the checks know/realize they're being tested?
Kohlenwasserstoff Wesen you can check few randomly selected lorries very throughly and only use those as a training set. As long as the selection is really random it should be fine.
Please make a video on the text that crashes the iPhone. Its been going around the internet recently and I think it would be cool to know a bit more about it.
Dan Frederiksen Perhaps so that noone really can accuse them of endangering people.with radiation. If the passive MM scan takes 1 minute, then it is at most an increase of 0.002% of the yearly background radiation, roughly equivalent to eating one 144th of a banana. So if anyone complains about it they can just send them a banana and tell that that is equivalent to 144 trips through the scanner.
Very interesting and ingenious, but politically disturbing... UK is in the Shengen agreement, there shouldn't be anything like this. If I were French, I'd be annoyed that the UK isn't doing their part. I bet the countries those people come from wish they had those systems when Europeans invaded them in the past centuries!
I know it's probably a little too mathematical but, could you consider making a video about the different techniques in more detail? I found this really interesting and it seems like a very obscure optimisation problem. Maybe run through a simplified idea of supervised and unsupervised techniques?? I'd like to see the different roles these techniques play in interesting examples or real research! Great video :)
***** To make proper selective searches, profiling is necessary, but simply profiling by skin color is not an effective method. You have to consider the appearance of past individuals who have used weapons in crowded places in the United States such as airports. While I don't have a list of all accounts of people bringing firearms or explosives into an airport, from what I would guess, I'd say one of the bigger factors would probably be age. From memory, In most mass murders, they tend to be young and single. It's ineffective and inhumane to take the cane from a crippled old man or woman and have them raise their arms while standing in a plastic tube. Also, I'd figure clothing and luggage makes a big difference. There's probably a correlation between the type, appearance, or amount of luggage or the clothing that anyone who intends to shoot or blow up the place might have. Certainly, there are more indicators than that. Also, I do recognize that you were joking. I just wanted to say that stuff.
parachrematistique Not too many it seems, I suppose most are here for the CS or simply have differing political views ... Anyway, I also think they should have tackled this video differently, so you can see that as "someone else" if you want to (posted a bit more of a detailed comment of myself earlier).
Thomas Nimmesgern Could you tell me what alternative do you have in mind? I'm genuinely interested - this is not sarcasm. I can't really see anything that wouldn't be considered objectifying.
This looks like an optimization problem. Can't it be done with rigorous mathematics instead of simulation. Considering the fact that the computer is generating the random variables from a predetermined distribution, can't we arrive at the optimal solution without simulation?
Just weigh the trailer when filled, write the weight down, weigh the lorry at the port. If it's heavier, there's people in it. Is it this simple or am I missing something?
kara88bg Unfortunately that only works in movies and TV shows. A thermal camera can read the temperature of the outside of the truck, but not the temperature of someone hiding inside the truck. the only way a thermal camera would see anything is if their body was touching the side of the truck.
Huntracony Exactly. That's part of the problem - we have a few tests which are fairly effective but none of which are perfect, so you need to use a combination to get reliable results. The problem with doing extensive tests and searches though is the amount of time and manpower required.
Wow, this looks like a lot of work. I can't help but wonder how many immigrants one could have housed and nourished with the money it cost to develop all this. I know, I know, it's more complicated than that. But still.
Penny Lane Haha, certainly an interesting viewpoint on the issue actually. In all honesty I don't know but I'd like to think these problems have been considered. Of course, the issue is, as is said in the video, you have no idea how many people are illegally entering, because if you did know you'd either stop them at the border or deport them if they already managed to get through.
Blaze I didn't know the UK was one of those Western countries that let their citizens starve and freeze to death when they are unemployed. I thought you had at least a basic welfare state. Sorry to hear of this barbarism. My tip: use European labour mobility while you still can.
Weigh everything as they move. When the weight changes, auto-alert the driver. If the weight has increased without the driver picking up nor refuelling, the driver will know something is wrong and can then contact the authorities.
I think some Semi's may already have a feature like that, it's useful to detecting it something has gone missing as well. The problem of course is that even if they started mandating this systems use it's only going to be available on newer trucks. Putting in weighing stations everywhere would also be prohibitively expensive (they'd have to be installed absolutely everywhere in a fairly large area around the ports not just in them).
It would only work if there was a scale at the beginning and the end and somebody snuck in between those 2 points. Otherwise a person could stay in from a place before the checks and remain there till after the checks and nothing would be d different.
Then you would be able to accurately measure someones bodyweight of course. Maybe the weight of the cargo + driver and truck itself can be registered. If >3 persons are hiding in the back of a truck this might give a significant weight difference compared to the theoretical value for the weight of the truck+driver+cargo.
You have to have data of the person the truck the load the petrol, and potential mud that is caught in the undercarriage. Any modifications made to the truck.
Vincent T I believe they only weigh trucks (if they do - I'm not sure - it's a long time since I went through the check with a bus and a truck with my dad) - they take papers about the load - I suppose they check if the weight is the same.
I'm quite surprised they made a video on this, frankly. Sure, nice CS and all, but at least where I live the subject of Calais border control is considered controversial (or so I'd say, at least). There have already been many deaths surrounding this issue and although I won't say we're (fully) responsible for those, I'd argue it does make the issue more complex than finding an efficient sorting algorithm, something with a formally defined and superficial solution. If you simply want to make a video about these "known unknowns" which happened to be with this context, a short content disclaimer in the introduction would have been in place IMO. Well, my thoughts at least.
Wout12345 I completely understand where you're coming from, but keep in mind this video really doesn't touch on the political side a whole lot - it doesn't try to reach one political conclusion or another, it's just giving an interesting example of how computer simulations and data mining can be used in a practical real world example.
Joel Nichols Yeah, you're totally right, but I think they would have achieved that goal better by addressing it shortly. "Hey, we know this isn't a complete open-and-shut case, but if we want to catch as many of them as possible, this is how we can optimize it." I don't know, something along those lines would probably do it, maybe something a bit more articulate. I'm not asking them to share their political opinions either, I just think such a disclaimer would improve the video for some people, who won't be distracted by the elephant in the room.
Wout12345 Its one of the cases where I'd probably have just turned comments off in case youtubes ugly patrol turned up to make racist goons of themselves. Surprisingly the quick glance of the comments it seems people are infact more interested in the math. Thats comforting. Edit: Oh, theres white supremacists down a bit further. boring gobshites.
Wout12345 Maybe they are not addressing that side of it to remain completely impartial? I know you want closure but it only feeds peoples opinions and we would probably have more comments about it than there already is.
Couldn't you just search lorries at random and compare that data to lorries picked doing the different techniques and get the correct sense of success rates from that? You'd know which techniques are better than random and by how much. And you can also test combinations of techniques. Regardless, the unknown of how many people are hiding can be estimated from random searches. It isn't an unknown then.
William Brall The number of people hiding isn't constant. whenever you determine it, it will change the other day. Their behaviour could also change, as soon as they know, that they are being looked for with a certain technique.
CowLunch you could literally make someone do a dice roll for every truck, it just means that even if you have strong suspicions that people are hiding in a lorry somewhere, you won't be allowed to search them unless the dice tell you to. so that won't ever happen.
Huntracony Even if it is random it probably won't tell you that much. With slowly, but constantly changing probabilities I reckon you need a lot of data before you can tell, whether a change you measure is in the standard deviation or not. Probably you would also randomly switch the methods, to determine whether one is more reliable than the other. Although it isn't perfectly ethical, I think the mathematical modelling would be a great job. I hope that when I finish my studies my job will be somehow similar.
so this guy is a paid mathematician who works to dismantle and violate basic human rights?? Well done - you could work on something else, that could actually benefit humanity
BennyBoyZinz only those without proper identification crossing a border to get to another country without respecting the laws which that country established to get there
Petros Adamopoulos Because we don't live in that fantasy world, and because ignoring problems never solves them. Nor can we dictate how everyone else in the world must behave.
***** My point is that solving the problem of how to stop a maximum of illegal immigrants arriving hidden in trucks is not a very honorable achievement in the life of a mathematician. That's all I actually wanted to convey.
Petros Adamopoulos One of the first steps to solving a problem is identifying the scope. This is far beyond the scope of computerphile and would require a huge team of people who are committed to creating a solution and have the resources available that takes in all factors.
Petros Adamopoulos Wiping out entire populations is hard work. There's no need in studying it yet if we can just keep them out of the country. Dark humor, best humor.
I feel like all the money spent on researching if theres an immigrant in a lorrie could've been used to build a bridge across the channel. Bahrain does it...
Spent on ridiculous anti-immigration policy and procedure? Yes, technology is an amazing thing. We should be focused on connecting rather than separation.
~31 billion spent on Anti-immigration efforts between 2001 and 2011 by the U.K. It's costing Bahrain 5 billion for their new bridge to Qatar. Definitely could pay for it. At least they're building foundations for future societies while the western world gets left behind in the 21st century.
Why do we have countries at all anymore? Honestly, the EU should really just stop all its pretense and drop its borders, regarding immigration at the very least. It would lead to a lot more extra cash in the budget and lead to a lot less bad stuff. Europe's the size of a big country anyway...
Why do people want to go to France (or Britain?) so badly that they are doing this? I understand why people jump from Mexico to America, but I didn't know that Europeans had such a similar issue.
TheMohawkNinja It's not the French or Europeans who are being smuggled on these lorries - the EU already guarantees them the right to enter the UK freely. The people who are being found on these lorries are usually people who have entered France illegally from other countries and are then trying to enter the UK.
Why are people sneaking into the UK? The UK is a very expensive place to live. It is not as socialized as the rest of the Europe. It is an English speaking country. Wouldn't these people be better off just staying in mainland Europe where things are cheaper, more socialism, and people speak their language?
You could just use some form of a directed energy weapon(non-lethal) into the containers(minus things like maybe frying electronics etc but those are just details :P ) and if you hear screaming, yay! you found em, happy ending? it would be efficient i'm sure.. and it's better having em stay alive then potentially dying on the trip?? :(
Or protecting the people from unvaccinated immigrants. I think each lorry should have a gas emitted (which causes severe distress or death) or the punishment of being found is death. Simply deporting them does nothing.
James Coyle Just because it's being used in a university doesn't mean it's educational use. Most educational use agreements I've seen would not allow for government contract jobs.
***** This is software demonstrating how the solved the problem. I don't think the shiny graphic (obviously used for teaching) was used to determine how best to catch illegal immigrants. That would have been a pure number output, probably.
I like how the lorries are "drifting" around the curves!
I found this video to be quite frightening, actually: a discussion of all the technology used to catch human beings with no thought or mention of the plight of the human beings themselves. Gave me chills. I'm a scientist so not a stranger to the idea of abstracting a problem and modeling, and of course the technology is interesting, but I don't like to see us disregarding the humanity of our subjects or the complexity of our social issues.
5:28 Lorries drifting around the curve.
This is Vehicular Profiling. Imagine how the vehicles feel.
2:43 Customs official opens the back of a suspicious lorry to find only a tree.
Tree: I'm an asylum tree. Please let me in. They want to cut me down!
You brought a smile to my face
Somewhere there you spoke of the probability of a certain check finding a person that is on a lorry being part of the simulation. How do you determine how likely it is that the person will be found by this check?
I guess testing different orderings of the various tests might give you a clue, but even then it's only a relative efficiency. Or do you test it by sending a thousand lorries that you know have people hidden but the local people don't through the check you're testing? If so, do the people manning the checks know/realize they're being tested?
Firstly, Prof Aickelin's accent is madness. Second, this is a SUPER cool way of utilizing data. I would love to do work like this.
0:40 ´´ *From UK into Europe* ´´, which considering that UK *IS* in Europe shows how much the Brits like the continentals...
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They can start checking everybody for limited intervals to improve their training data so that it won't have false negatives
biocode But people will notice if every lorry is being checked and try to go another day
Kohlenwasserstoff Wesen you can check few randomly selected lorries very throughly and only use those as a training set. As long as the selection is really random it should be fine.
How did this guy sneak in?
Please make a video on the text that crashes the iPhone. Its been going around the internet recently and I think it would be cool to know a bit more about it.
Very interesting, didn't know modeling had these kinds of applications
***** Me too! Its amazing.
***** lol why not?
***** lol why not?
Did you purposely program those lorries to drift around the s-curves?
An effective solution would be filling up every lorry with nitrous oxide, that way you could hear the immigrants within laughing.
Deltaexio Or you could fill every truck up with carbon monoxide.
The Eternal Hermit A tad more morbid it yes, that would also be a solution.
The Eternal Hermit I somehow think the legal system would have a problem with that...
***** well legally, there shouldn't be anyone in the truck, so why would putting CO in there be illegal?
***** Yes I use truck, lorry sounds like something that belongs in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.
Why passive MM instead of just active?
Dan Frederiksen Perhaps so that noone really can accuse them of endangering people.with radiation. If the passive MM scan takes 1 minute, then it is at most an increase of 0.002% of the yearly background radiation, roughly equivalent to eating one 144th of a banana. So if anyone complains about it they can just send them a banana and tell that that is equivalent to 144 trips through the scanner.
FlairTech I use those to relay messages to my parents-in-law but the radiation levels are rather low so I don't know why you bring them up ;)
Very interesting and ingenious, but politically disturbing... UK is in the Shengen agreement, there shouldn't be anything like this. If I were French, I'd be annoyed that the UK isn't doing their part.
I bet the countries those people come from wish they had those systems when Europeans invaded them in the past centuries!
still think this guy has the best accent ever.
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Anyone know what software was being used here?
I know it's probably a little too mathematical but, could you consider making a video about the different techniques in more detail? I found this really interesting and it seems like a very obscure optimisation problem. Maybe run through a simplified idea of supervised and unsupervised techniques?? I'd like to see the different roles these techniques play in interesting examples or real research!
Great video :)
7:09 tell that to the Los Angeles airport
Why did I have to read that in Kronk's voice?
***** To make proper selective searches, profiling is necessary, but simply profiling by skin color is not an effective method. You have to consider the appearance of past individuals who have used weapons in crowded places in the United States such as airports. While I don't have a list of all accounts of people bringing firearms or explosives into an airport, from what I would guess, I'd say one of the bigger factors would probably be age. From memory, In most mass murders, they tend to be young and single. It's ineffective and inhumane to take the cane from a crippled old man or woman and have them raise their arms while standing in a plastic tube. Also, I'd figure clothing and luggage makes a big difference. There's probably a correlation between the type, appearance, or amount of luggage or the clothing that anyone who intends to shoot or blow up the place might have. Certainly, there are more indicators than that.
Also, I do recognize that you were joking. I just wanted to say that stuff.
+Austin B In LAX you basically have to have TSA precheck. Even if you go at like 3 AM it's still packed.
After watching this video I still have no idea how we estimate the known unknowns.
Am I the only one who realizes that under the interesting model, we're talking about human beings?
parachrematistique yes, you must be The One with the most unique view on the world, seeing things no other can see.
Yes, that's something I find rather irritating. It's kind of an objectification.
parachrematistique Not too many it seems, I suppose most are here for the CS or simply have differing political views ... Anyway, I also think they should have tackled this video differently, so you can see that as "someone else" if you want to (posted a bit more of a detailed comment of myself earlier).
Thomas Nimmesgern Could you tell me what alternative do you have in mind? I'm genuinely interested - this is not sarcasm. I can't really see anything that wouldn't be considered objectifying.
m Wait, are you talking to me or the OP? Sorry, wasn't really clear from your message.
Wonder if they are working on COVID...
Why even make the graphical model? Why not just run the simulation without watching all the cars go though?
This looks like an optimization problem. Can't it be done with rigorous mathematics instead of simulation. Considering the fact that the computer is generating the random variables from a predetermined distribution, can't we arrive at the optimal solution without simulation?
You know a topic is fascinating when everybodies reaction is to chime in with their own ideas for solving the problem :D
Did they try using heat sensors?
wait, did he say "cosmic rays"?! are we actually using COSMIC RAYS as an x-ray? i didn't know that and my mind is blown!
Sensitivity Analysis?
Just weigh the trailer when filled, write the weight down, weigh the lorry at the port. If it's heavier, there's people in it. Is it this simple or am I missing something?
970357ers yes, corrupt people and probably unnecessary bureaucracy
Why don't they use heat sensitive camera and just look for specific heat signature?
kara88bg Unfortunately that only works in movies and TV shows. A thermal camera can read the temperature of the outside of the truck, but not the temperature of someone hiding inside the truck. the only way a thermal camera would see anything is if their body was touching the side of the truck.
TimeLapse1357 so, not foolproof, but neither are the other tests. also, thanks for teaching me something.
Huntracony Exactly. That's part of the problem - we have a few tests which are fairly effective but none of which are perfect, so you need to use a combination to get reliable results. The problem with doing extensive tests and searches though is the amount of time and manpower required.
Wow, this looks like a lot of work. I can't help but wonder how many immigrants one could have housed and nourished with the money it cost to develop all this. I know, I know, it's more complicated than that. But still.
Penny Lane Haha, certainly an interesting viewpoint on the issue actually.
In all honesty I don't know but I'd like to think these problems have been considered. Of course, the issue is, as is said in the video, you have no idea how many people are illegally entering, because if you did know you'd either stop them at the border or deport them if they already managed to get through.
Penny Lane Free housing and nourishment? I'd like to see them offer this to UK citizens first rather than anyone coming in to the country.
Blaze I didn't know the UK was one of those Western countries that let their citizens starve and freeze to death when they are unemployed. I thought you had at least a basic welfare state. Sorry to hear of this barbarism. My tip: use European labour mobility while you still can.
Penny Lane I to wish I lived in other amazing countries that gave houses to anyone for simply entering the country.
They should just use a thermal camera to detect people hiding or pump the lorry with co2 so they have to make a noise to get out.
This is ridiculously interesting.
I really want to get into analytics and data mining.
Weigh everything as they move. When the weight changes, auto-alert the driver. If the weight has increased without the driver picking up nor refuelling, the driver will know something is wrong and can then contact the authorities.
I think some Semi's may already have a feature like that, it's useful to detecting it something has gone missing as well. The problem of course is that even if they started mandating this systems use it's only going to be available on newer trucks. Putting in weighing stations everywhere would also be prohibitively expensive (they'd have to be installed absolutely everywhere in a fairly large area around the ports not just in them).
Do you know if they weigh the cars and trucks?
It would only work if there was a scale at the beginning and the end and somebody snuck in between those 2 points. Otherwise a person could stay in from a place before the checks and remain there till after the checks and nothing would be d different.
Then you would be able to accurately measure someones bodyweight of course. Maybe the weight of the cargo + driver and truck itself can be registered. If >3 persons are hiding in the back of a truck this might give a significant weight difference compared to the theoretical value for the weight of the truck+driver+cargo.
You have to have data of the person the truck the load the petrol, and potential mud that is caught in the undercarriage. Any modifications made to the truck.
Vincent T I believe they only weigh trucks (if they do - I'm not sure - it's a long time since I went through the check with a bus and a truck with my dad) - they take papers about the load - I suppose they check if the weight is the same.
Seriously, what accent is this guy? I'm interested.
these videos always make me feel like i cut in at the middle of a documentary, it's interesting yes, but it's disorienting
I'm quite surprised they made a video on this, frankly. Sure, nice CS and all, but at least where I live the subject of Calais border control is considered controversial (or so I'd say, at least). There have already been many deaths surrounding this issue and although I won't say we're (fully) responsible for those, I'd argue it does make the issue more complex than finding an efficient sorting algorithm, something with a formally defined and superficial solution. If you simply want to make a video about these "known unknowns" which happened to be with this context, a short content disclaimer in the introduction would have been in place IMO. Well, my thoughts at least.
Wout12345 I completely understand where you're coming from, but keep in mind this video really doesn't touch on the political side a whole lot - it doesn't try to reach one political conclusion or another, it's just giving an interesting example of how computer simulations and data mining can be used in a practical real world example.
Joel Nichols Yeah, you're totally right, but I think they would have achieved that goal better by addressing it shortly. "Hey, we know this isn't a complete open-and-shut case, but if we want to catch as many of them as possible, this is how we can optimize it." I don't know, something along those lines would probably do it, maybe something a bit more articulate. I'm not asking them to share their political opinions either, I just think such a disclaimer would improve the video for some people, who won't be distracted by the elephant in the room.
Wout12345 Its one of the cases where I'd probably have just turned comments off in case youtubes ugly patrol turned up to make racist goons of themselves. Surprisingly the quick glance of the comments it seems people are infact more interested in the math. Thats comforting.
Edit: Oh, theres white supremacists down a bit further. boring gobshites.
Wout12345 Maybe they are not addressing that side of it to remain completely impartial? I know you want closure but it only feeds peoples opinions and we would probably have more comments about it than there already is.
Blaze
Probably. It was just my opinion, I doubt there's much of a solution which would satisfy all people.
Couldn't you just search lorries at random and compare that data to lorries picked doing the different techniques and get the correct sense of success rates from that? You'd know which techniques are better than random and by how much. And you can also test combinations of techniques. Regardless, the unknown of how many people are hiding can be estimated from random searches. It isn't an unknown then.
William Brall The number of people hiding isn't constant. whenever you determine it, it will change the other day. Their behaviour could also change, as soon as they know, that they are being looked for with a certain technique.
Kohlenwasserstoff Wesen That and the "random" search is never going to be random, it might well give terribly skewed data.
CowLunch you could literally make someone do a dice roll for every truck, it just means that even if you have strong suspicions that people are hiding in a lorry somewhere, you won't be allowed to search them unless the dice tell you to. so that won't ever happen.
Huntracony You could still search that lorry i fyou think someone in it. You just don't include that truck and any stowaways in your data analysis.
Huntracony Even if it is random it probably won't tell you that much. With slowly, but constantly changing probabilities I reckon you need a lot of data before you can tell, whether a change you measure is in the standard deviation or not. Probably you would also randomly switch the methods, to determine whether one is more reliable than the other.
Although it isn't perfectly ethical, I think the mathematical modelling would be a great job. I hope that when I finish my studies my job will be somehow similar.
Controls take some time but the time is good invested.
More from him and more data mining please!
3:58 *fewer
That's dark but fascinating..
Way cool. Great explanation.
47 people got caught trying to immigrate to England
At least, you don't keep unwanted human beings out of your country by drowning them, like in the mediteranian sea.
Why not use infra red heat detectors. The police find criminals hiding that way.
so this guy is a paid mathematician who works to dismantle and violate basic human rights??
Well done - you could work on something else, that could actually benefit humanity
NO.ONE.IS.ILLEGAL.
BennyBoyZinz only those without proper identification crossing a border to get to another country without respecting the laws which that country established to get there
How about you study ways to improve the world so that people running away from poverty don't exist, mathematically.
Petros Adamopoulos Because we don't live in that fantasy world, and because ignoring problems never solves them. Nor can we dictate how everyone else in the world must behave.
***** Many of which "shitty countries" rich countries happily exploit resources and share profit therefrom with corrupt local "governments".
***** My point is that solving the problem of how to stop a maximum of illegal immigrants arriving hidden in trucks is not a very honorable achievement in the life of a mathematician. That's all I actually wanted to convey.
Petros Adamopoulos One of the first steps to solving a problem is identifying the scope. This is far beyond the scope of computerphile and would require a huge team of people who are committed to creating a solution and have the resources available that takes in all factors.
Petros Adamopoulos
Wiping out entire populations is hard work. There's no need in studying it yet if we can just keep them out of the country.
Dark humor, best humor.
I feel like all the money spent on researching if theres an immigrant in a lorrie could've been used to build a bridge across the channel. Bahrain does it...
Derek Benke Do you really think the money they spent on this is enough to pay for a bridge across the English Channel?
Spent on ridiculous anti-immigration policy and procedure? Yes, technology is an amazing thing. We should be focused on connecting rather than separation.
Well it appears Muslim nations such as Qatar and Bahrain are far ahead of the British. No wonder Scotland is leaving.
~31 billion spent on Anti-immigration efforts between 2001 and 2011 by the U.K. It's costing Bahrain 5 billion for their new bridge to Qatar. Definitely could pay for it. At least they're building foundations for future societies while the western world gets left behind in the 21st century.
Derek Benke And treating immigrant workers like slaves.
Why do we have countries at all anymore? Honestly, the EU should really just stop all its pretense and drop its borders, regarding immigration at the very least. It would lead to a lot more extra cash in the budget and lead to a lot less bad stuff. Europe's the size of a big country anyway...
Why do people want to go to France (or Britain?) so badly that they are doing this? I understand why people jump from Mexico to America, but I didn't know that Europeans had such a similar issue.
TheMohawkNinja It's not the French or Europeans who are being smuggled on these lorries - the EU already guarantees them the right to enter the UK freely. The people who are being found on these lorries are usually people who have entered France illegally from other countries and are then trying to enter the UK.
Randomly poor tear gas into the cargo hold. 0r you know, use a computer. Whatever.
Why are people sneaking into the UK? The UK is a very expensive place to live. It is not as socialized as the rest of the Europe. It is an English speaking country. Wouldn't these people be better off just staying in mainland Europe where things are cheaper, more socialism, and people speak their language?
You could just use some form of a directed energy weapon(non-lethal) into the containers(minus things like maybe frying electronics etc but those are just details :P ) and if you hear screaming, yay! you found em, happy ending?
it would be efficient i'm sure.. and it's better having em stay alive then potentially dying on the trip?? :(
POWERPIVOTS
You are helping government restrict human freedom.
Or protecting the people from unvaccinated immigrants. I think each lorry should have a gas emitted (which causes severe distress or death) or the punishment of being found is death. Simply deporting them does nothing.
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Tsk tsk, "educational use only" software :D
***** Its a university...
James Coyle Just because it's being used in a university doesn't mean it's educational use. Most educational use agreements I've seen would not allow for government contract jobs.
***** Do you know the EULA they subscribed?
***** This is software demonstrating how the solved the problem. I don't think the shiny graphic (obviously used for teaching) was used to determine how best to catch illegal immigrants. That would have been a pure number output, probably.