What If? Campaign: 1989 Soviets Invade Europe, Britain Must Stop Them In France | DCS

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  • @grimreapers
    @grimreapers  หลายเดือนก่อน

    Modernized Version: th-cam.com/video/urkPKbikd80/w-d-xo.html

  • @stevendepuy4377
    @stevendepuy4377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    When I arrived in West Germany in 1976, 17-1/2 years old. There was a poster hanging in the barracks. Can't remember exactly, but it said something like we were outnumbered 13-1 in men, 6-1 in tanks, and 4-1 in artillery. When I asked my one Sgt if we could stop them, he said we were a speed bump, and our job was to keep them from reaching the English channel in 3 days so troops from the states could get here. I always thought, sitting in the Fulda Gap for 3 years, it was not going to end well for me. We didn't have a lot of our heavy ammo, like TOW's, Dragons, and such. They said if we needed it, they would get it to us. I always figured my post was gone before we got the vehicles off it.

    • @incredibleXMan
      @incredibleXMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ouch. My dad also went to West Germany with the British Army as support. I am surprised you didn't seem to have enough heavy gear to make a good go of it.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    RIP Gorby. You let the empire disintegrate instead of rolling tanks into West Berlin.

    • @mrlodwick
      @mrlodwick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes agree chum.

    • @Spicy_Italian_Sausage
      @Spicy_Italian_Sausage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gorby was fine.... except when he ordered the mass killing of Lithuanian unarmed protesters back when they were part of the USSR. But I guess everyone commits a little genocide every once in a while 💀🤣

    • @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
      @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately, Putin is trying to rebuild the Russian Empire.

    • @tambosnipes1652
      @tambosnipes1652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 empire nevwr really died it needed to go through a evolution

    • @joshuafelder2701
      @joshuafelder2701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But at least now he's a good commie.

  • @rags417
    @rags417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    26:53 - That Su-24 flying in formation with the Phoenix was gold !

  • @colincampbell817
    @colincampbell817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love that you guys are doing more classic Cold War stuff. Means learning a different way of fighting with SAR missiles. But when I saw the Harrier loaded with LGB's my first thought was - who the hell is designating for them? Until near the end of GW1 the only RAF plane that could designate for LGB's was the Bucanneer. Unless you had ground designation from troops. Also no Bombcats in 1989.

    • @slowhornet4802
      @slowhornet4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Until near the end of GW1 the only RAF plane that could designate for LGB's was the Bucanneer."
      Yes, only when "Tracy" and "Sandra" joined the Tornado force they were able to designate on their own (and at night, other than the Buccs).
      Btw, the TIALD is modelled quite nicely in DI Tornado. Early in campaign you could not use it due to enemy AAA and SAMs, but once the campaign had progressed medium to high level attacks were possible (provide the weather was good enough).

  • @tomsoki5738
    @tomsoki5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    French cold war nuclear policy was to use their entire nuclear stockpile the moment any enemy force stepped a foot into mainland France so if it got to this point and France actually followed through on their threat it would turn into an all out nuclear war. Even if the US, USSR and UK kept their cool and didn't use nukes yet

    • @Eytaris
      @Eytaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's still the policy today, the '40 debacle was enough. it's the advantage to have an independent nuclear program, you don't have to ask permission to use them, or have to follow a restrictive doctrine written by a nobody on the other side of the pond.

  • @rubiconnn
    @rubiconnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    42:12 probably the most intense 1 second of DCS ever to be recorded.

  • @skatman3278
    @skatman3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely love watching these sorts of missions. Really shows the huge depth to DCS. Wish I had the time (and the friends) to play it with.

  • @walterblanc9708
    @walterblanc9708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hah hah hah.When the wall came down a British tank regiment somewhere near the border made "friends" with their opposing numbers of the 2nd Shock Army (?) They visited each others bases and had a few social evenings. It became apparent that only about 20% of their MBT's were fully serviceable and similar numbers of other vehicles at any given time. Hope their Air forces were in better shape for this scenario.

  • @HILLEVILOVE
    @HILLEVILOVE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just to point out that in 1989 F-16s didn't have color displays (MFD). Those first came with the European MLU upgrades in the mid-late 90s, which was then adapted by USAF block 50/52s. I recall talking to a USAF pilot who envied the Europeans having color MFDs.

  • @andieslandies
    @andieslandies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love all your work, and I particularly love these 'what if' videos! It's just a shame that the full variety of period aircraft can't be included; I'd love to see this with the RAF also operating Jaguars, Tornados, Buccaneers, and Phantoms (not a criticism of your work).

  • @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
    @dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Cap. Great mission (as usual). Delegating mission planning to other GR members has likely lifted your workload. The rest of my comment has to do with some intelligence I've gathered (the hard way) on _Flower_ class Corvettes.
    The Flowers' have a ridiculously long-range hydrophone system. I've been picked up at 10 nautical miles (nm) either surfaced or submerged above a depth of 100 meters. Their Sonar/ASDIC is good for 3 nm. Even the destroyers don't have this sensitive a hydrophone. I've tried many strategies, including french-kissing the keel of a freighter, with limited success. *Hint,* the Flower's hydrophone is least sensitive to its stern. Good luck & good hunting.

  • @supermilo
    @supermilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An F-16A variant for DCS cold war stuff, would not be a terrible idea...

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Request--
    Zeppelin's and Boat Planes VS AC-130's and UH-1H's👍👍
    Rules-- Zeppelin's fight AC-130's and vise versa! Boat Planes fight UH-1H's and vise versa! However Boat Planes can Only attack AC-130's side with Cannons! No attacking from straight ahead, behind, the top, underneath, or flank! UH-1H's can Only attack Zeppelin's with Door Gunner!👍👍

  • @Groucho14E
    @Groucho14E 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cap, here's a idea for GR's back pocket: an Ace Combat scenario or campaign, aka 'mil-sim strikes on Hollywood objectives'. Things like a target that can only be approached through a narrow valley and under a bridge, a castle defended by modded-in sci-fi lasers, CAS between skyscrapers in downtown Dubai... but given the full mission treatment, not just as done as a challenge.
    Anyway, I loved this scenario. Kudos to the creator! (Bean? I couldn't quite catch the syllables).

  • @elmartillo7931
    @elmartillo7931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is cool because I was in Germany in 1989 with the Canadian Army, training for this exact scenario. We were stationed in Baden-Baden

  • @jwn2003
    @jwn2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    26:55. When you see an AIM-54 phoenix form up on your wing…

  • @joerag6077
    @joerag6077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    33:00 Its not a base, a break, a dog leg, or a tear drop. Its all of the above. A "bog Drop"...or "dog drop" idunno. Maybe a short left break at the approach end...from the right base. I cant invent a good name for that. I'd prolly call it a possible pilot deviation lol.

  • @Wyomingchief
    @Wyomingchief 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great what if. Just really looking forward to getting my skills back to where they should be so I can start joining in on these donator missions

  • @willwozniak2826
    @willwozniak2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this guys, everytime I have a bad day I look foward to this...I hope I get some darn cash I can donate one of these days...

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would Love to see The F-111 lol in this scenario! In similar scenarios in the future! In just in general would definitely like to see more F-111 Aardvark!👍
    F-111 VS MIG-27!👍

  • @Eytaris
    @Eytaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    nice video, thanks!
    more realistically, this kind of scenario would have started WWIII, by the Soviet taking French nukes in the face, for the exact same reason that the French developed their nuke program independently, they wanted to have total control for a major deterrent to avoid a second 1940 debacle (that was refused by the US when discussing transfert of nuke tech), if mainland France was invaded and the military wasn't capable to stop them by conventional means, the doctrine called for the escalating use of nukes, tactical strikes on overwhelming forces to stop them, going up to strategic strikes to destroy the command structure and war supporting infrastructures in the aggressor country (despite the last 20 years of almost constant French bashing and the blundering government clowns we have, we still know how to, and do, wage a war that doesn't involve white flag weaving or rifle dropping :) ).
    Well, other than that, it was a nice scenario, I admire the radio discipline of the GR group and proper briefings, these do a lot for the immersion, even in a spectator standpoint.

    • @Eytaris
      @Eytaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biodidu25 if we keep on hypothetical scenarios, it could have been a reverse situation, Soviet totally bypassing France, invading the northern countries and taking control of the waters from the Arctic ocean to the north sea, that would open an invasion of the British Isles, pushing the British military and exiled government to take refuge in France and then, creating an international taskforce (French/british/American) to retake the UK.
      That would be nice, too.

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eytaris when did the Soviets ever successfully invade anyone by sea?

    • @Eytaris
      @Eytaris 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rover200Power they have as much chance to successfully make an amphibious invasion of the UK as them rolling through France without taking a nuke in the face. As I said, following the concept of an hypothetical scenario, it can be possible.

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A scenario for you: With UCAV aircraft being used more often and different models coming out all the time, could you have your Combat Air Patrol discover a flight of 10 UCAVs (that look and act like Spitfires) that are headed to attack your base?
    The idea here is the UCAV can defend themselves like a Spitfire would but are flying at a very low level so they are already close to your base.
    Good Luck

  • @robmichalowski7886
    @robmichalowski7886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One huge error... The USMC was never tasked with operating in European Theater of Operations in the 80's. I know... I served in the Corps in the 80's. We were tasked with operating in Norway. Also the Tarawa was operating in the WestPac... Nit picky, but...

  • @nonegiven5295
    @nonegiven5295 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not intend to be a rules lawyer but; On 1 May 2007, the USAF's 432nd Wing was activated to operate MQ-9 Reaper as well as MQ-1 Predator UAVs at Creech Air Force Base, Nevada. The pilots first conducted combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan in the summer of 2007. (time 42:23.).

  • @AuraKnightTheLucario
    @AuraKnightTheLucario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey cap, have you tried a what if of If the General Belgrano had not been sunk and the planned pincer attack had been carried out on the Carrier group in the morning? I did try and search the video list so i may have just over looked it.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already working on something similar.

  • @gastonpablogonzalezkriegel1178
    @gastonpablogonzalezkriegel1178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. It seems like Red Storm Rising, by Tom Clancy

  • @196cupcake
    @196cupcake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A bit timely, since Gorbachev recently passed away.

  • @punman5392
    @punman5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Su-24 casually forming up next to the Phoenix

  • @mfreed40k
    @mfreed40k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cap you should read Team Yankee, great novel about a land war in 1980s Europe.

  • @naidoo15
    @naidoo15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are my fav videos on youtube.

  • @BradRange
    @BradRange 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk if you’ve done any missions, but Tom Clancy’s Red Storm Rising is based off of an actual NATO war games scenario and has several scenarios that would make fun war games. Strikes on US carriers, stealth infiltration to take out SAMs, tanks rolling into Germany. Etc. it’s also a great read. Check it out

  • @trevorday7923
    @trevorday7923 ปีที่แล้ว

    Essentially the plot of Tom Clancy's book Red Storm Rising. Really makes you appreciate what a true gift to humanity Mikhail Gorbachev was. May he rest in peace

  • @Boggoranthius
    @Boggoranthius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If only the Tornado had been in DCS...

    • @cool_cat007smoove3
      @cool_cat007smoove3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.. I believe most of this aircraft is still classified

  • @daddyrabbit835
    @daddyrabbit835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was in Germany, defending the Fulda Gap in 1989.

  • @RisingDad
    @RisingDad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of my favorites so far. It's a fun scenario and there is some ambiguity about what's going to happen for the players.

  • @No1Distraction
    @No1Distraction 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really enjoy the "if the cold war went hot" videos, along side massive battles on the land, air, and sea

  • @roderickval
    @roderickval 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great fun! Fox 3! Phoenix on my Tomcat were kind of working hehe

  • @Flojer0
    @Flojer0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lifting a wheel on landing makes me nervous, and I only pilot in sims

  • @toetagjeee
    @toetagjeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funfact, Gorba indeed had a military coup. It failed, then Soviet Union died pretty much, August puch. Great timeframe to pick a book on.THo soviet army in 89 was in reality at half staffing pretty much and losts of corruptin as well. (Like modern Russia, bit less tbh) It was good that Soviet union broke apart then, soviet union was going on a way of loosing in technology(computer chips) and economcially was unviable and that going on for 10 years would have been much more worse. (Think 90s russia upheval in economics) Two of my cents.

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The USSR would not have died if Yeltsin didn't give it a kick in it's moment of greatest difficulty.

    • @toetagjeee
      @toetagjeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielch6662 Nah they where so in way out that mess. THink, baltics where literally rebelling, the Karabah conflict was already happening (begun in 88), Afganistan was a mess of a loss for Soviet Union, lots of men and pullout in 88. No fkn way Soviet union was going to survive.

  • @gav_Azato
    @gav_Azato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please do the hawker hunter flight under tower bridge as a challenge

  • @the_beef4762
    @the_beef4762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it sad I could sit, drink beer and watch these videos all day?

  • @Konszky
    @Konszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the colors on Caps F-16

  • @davidtodorovic6046
    @davidtodorovic6046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to ask,what happened to your sponsotship with WinWing Cap? Thanks
    Cheers

  • @theymusthatetesla3186
    @theymusthatetesla3186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good effort!

  • @adr1uno638
    @adr1uno638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best Scenario so far :)

  • @DanA-jp9gs
    @DanA-jp9gs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This campaign should be named for GENERAL GEORGE PATTON.

  • @cool_cat007smoove3
    @cool_cat007smoove3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F-14s wouldn't have been used in this real life conflict. F-15s, F-18s and F-16s would have been mostly likely used in this conflict. Fun video.

    • @Lagmaster33
      @Lagmaster33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course there would be F-14s in a carrier battle group.

  • @Zubinator5861
    @Zubinator5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, Cap. Quick question.
    For the F-14, or any plane with a co pilot, why isn't the rear seat turned backwards in the plane? Wouldn't that make it easier for the the co pilot to see out back?

    • @MattyJ55046
      @MattyJ55046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think of all the Gs that are pulled in a plane. It wouldn’t be biologically recommended. There are actual aircraft reasons im sure, but end of the day it’s a non starter. Plus in modern planes if you can see them out the back with your eyes, you are already dead.

    • @colincampbell817
      @colincampbell817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember speaking to a RAF F4 Nav and told me it was standard practice for the back seater to unstrap themselves to get better rear visibility during ACM.

  • @szymonteodorczyk4454
    @szymonteodorczyk4454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content, could you guys do a test of the final mission from Maverick with the canyon run and the extreme G maneuver at the end?

  • @ONCEbittenTWICEshyshyshy
    @ONCEbittenTWICEshyshyshy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the north korea vs south korea wargames series ever realised?. I can't see any videos anywhere. It would be an extremely interesting scenario to witness.

  • @Kaskaskia64
    @Kaskaskia64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was stationed in Germany in 1989 / Forward A10 base / Sembach

  • @MAYDAYSIMULATIONS
    @MAYDAYSIMULATIONS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if you can put harm on migs, and guided rockets on helos.....can you get harms on the Tomcat? Best harm platform ever question mark:)

  • @AEFisch
    @AEFisch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only when the f111f and fb111 had pods. Even with TFR the f111e had to pop up and locate the bombs

  • @ilankeren1449
    @ilankeren1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you use for radio communications voice changer

  • @bigphil6980
    @bigphil6980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would like to see this as a series of vids so you could get air sup before A10s and helis take off and the invasion fleet lands

  • @raikomoerenhout1104
    @raikomoerenhout1104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What did NATO’s cold war doctrine say over the use of landmines. Would that halt a mass armoured assault over the European plane? Allowing for more effective use of anti-armour weapons?

    • @acephantom903
      @acephantom903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cold War everyone was pro-mines. After the fall of the Soviet Union did nations start rejecting the idea of mining. Even the US mostly dropped inventory of long term mine replaced with time based self detonating mines. I think the longest active life of a mine in the US is 6 days. 6 minute for short term antipersonnel mines (to prevent being followed) and 6 hours for other quick deployment mines. I might have the times wrong but I'm pretty sure they are all intervals of 6.
      There are mines which don't have these life spans but those are ones specifically placed and are usually retrieved if possible. IE rocket mines and claymores.

  • @timothyfeyes7998
    @timothyfeyes7998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about a battle of the chosen reservoir

  • @Orieni
    @Orieni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would have been my war, about when I was starting to think of myself as an experienced soldier. Instead I did Bosnia, Iraq and Trashcanistan. Interesting to look at it from this far away.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Bean!

  • @FamiliarAnomaly
    @FamiliarAnomaly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When is the last battle the british actually won on their own without help from the USA? Pre-1900???

  • @schizoid9847
    @schizoid9847 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember the TSR2? Amazing airplane years ahead of its time..but killed off by the politicians. When designing that plane it was envisaged it would be flying very low and at high speed. I've always wondered if the TSR2 had been adopted and war had broken out..what would its chances have been? Just reaching its target never mind getting home.

  • @lucius6667
    @lucius6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see this turned into a actual campaign using DCS and ARMA be interesting to see it played out

    • @Davros-vi4qg
      @Davros-vi4qg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too busy…. But yeah!

    • @lucius6667
      @lucius6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Davros-vi4qg fun fact is this scenario was planned for on 1945 in case the Russians didn't stop at Germany

  • @cranyfield
    @cranyfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you recomend a headset with a good mic?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've stopped using headsets with mics.

    • @cranyfield
      @cranyfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimreapers ok thanks for the reply sadly i dont have the room or space for a of headset mic :(

  • @sleat
    @sleat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a fighter driver, "Magnum x 4" is as freaky and frightening a thing to hear as "Fix Bayonets" is for infantry folks.
    🎶When you know she's no high climber then you find your only friend
    In a room with your two-timer, and you're sure you're near the end;
    Then you love the little wild one but she brings you only sorrow
    All the time you know she's smilin'. You'll be on your knees tomorrow, yeah!
    You go back, Jack, do it again, wheels turnin' 'round and 'round
    You go back, Jack, do it again 🎶 - Steely Dan (c) 1972

  • @brianvickery4071
    @brianvickery4071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got decent starter joystick, throttle and even GamerGlass for MFDs, just been so lazy to install the game (Got F16 and F18)

  • @MattyJ55046
    @MattyJ55046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Minute 24 nice kill

  • @5Andysalive
    @5Andysalive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so in reality this scenario was stopped by one slighty drunk later president and a tank....

  • @idle_betazoid1990
    @idle_betazoid1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Gorbachev

  • @kraigthorne3549
    @kraigthorne3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every combat veteran of the Gulf War is laughing at this. In 1989 the conventional forces in Germany would CRUSH the Warsaw Pact in a few days. If you picked 1979 instead of 1989 it would be more of a fair fight.

  • @Omer-oe4ms
    @Omer-oe4ms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where’s 2023 Yom Kippur war Day 2?

  • @WhiteWizard62
    @WhiteWizard62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!

  • @lucky_luke4785
    @lucky_luke4785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they only stop russia in france lots of things went wrong but dcs maps, i understand.

  • @TeoDP7
    @TeoDP7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first, I think Soviets would have enjoyed a lot of success, however, as the time would progress the NATO Would outproduce them, other countries like from South America would also join the war I think

  • @Rover200Power
    @Rover200Power 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Needs more Tonkas 🥲

  • @joshberry4813
    @joshberry4813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like Red Storm Rising. Kinda

  • @yereverluvinuncleber
    @yereverluvinuncleber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you keep saying "YO"? What does it mean in context?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's gunna be a hard one to explain via text.

    • @yereverluvinuncleber
      @yereverluvinuncleber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimreapers Well try, I've heard you use it a couple of times in that video and I could not gather the meaning at all. Is it like an "OK" or an in-joke or similar?

    • @kujiko88
      @kujiko88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Yo" is very reliant on context. It's a greeting, an exclamation, a call for attention (casual), and just sometimes a noise.
      You could greet a friend with it.
      You could use it to show excitement over something.
      You could also use it to get someone's attention, similar to "hey".

    • @yereverluvinuncleber
      @yereverluvinuncleber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kujiko88 How strange thought that we have an Englishman using it, sounds very wrong with the rest of the accent.

  • @JonathanHStone
    @JonathanHStone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was surprised to see the Tomcats shooting Phoenix missiles in a dogfight. At that range and against enemy fighters wouldn't they rely on AMRAAM or Sidewinders?

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is pre-AMRAAM times. Probably pre Sidewinder too.

    • @JonathanHStone
      @JonathanHStone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Konszky the sidewinder was first introduced in 1959. Prior to the amraam US aircraft used the Sparrow radar-guided missile for intermediate ranged targets. The phoenix was specifically designed to kill bombers, it used a ballistic missile-like climb and unpowered dive to hit large unmaneuverable aircraft. It wouldn't have likely been used in the way it is represented in this video.

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JonathanHStone listen to the briefing. The reasons are stated there.

  • @Xenomorphine
    @Xenomorphine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ever used WW1/WW2 assets in DCS to simulate a hypothetical version of War Plan Red?
    Could be an interesting scenario to war game!
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

  • @michaelaustin310
    @michaelaustin310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No F4? Darn

  • @mrlodwick
    @mrlodwick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    T bone steak tonight Capt!

  • @Abdullahkhan00881
    @Abdullahkhan00881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Notification moment

  • @rohanhewitt9402
    @rohanhewitt9402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Earliest to a video I have ever been

  • @leohaller2756
    @leohaller2756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moiiiinnn guys

  • @Davros-vi4qg
    @Davros-vi4qg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Channel is a useful ole ditch at times 😆

  • @mikegines658
    @mikegines658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not going to happenRussia has their hands full with Ukrainians NATO is much stronger has better weapons and is organized much better, fight different and training is so much better and they integrate much better. Russia would lose bad

  • @imranaiman7184
    @imranaiman7184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im early

  • @Bognadofff
    @Bognadofff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First?

  • @Konszky
    @Konszky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the colors on Caps F-16

    • @philipr.6090
      @philipr.6090 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the amazing streamlining modification at 41:40. 😉😄