Awesome very helpful video. Thank you. Is there a tips and tricks of the actual wiring work done in the walls studs? Would love to learn best practices of how to run the wires and spacing management.
Our recommendations are for basic, generic wiring-if you didn’t know the brand make and model yet. In this case, follow the manufactures wiring recommendations.
why run 16/2 and cat6 at the window vs just 16/4? any particular reasoning for the cat6 at the window? asking because im running the 16/4 to every window from a central dc distribution box but wasn't sure what the extra cat6 would do.
What do you suggest, given the wire will be visible, for certain windows/doors where the owner isn't sure whether they are going to want or need shades, and will only decide after construction is complete and they move in?
That’s always a pain point with wiring shades if you aren’t planning shades immediately, and again it depends on the job site, how those windows are cased in, and where specifically shades are. We’ve used low voltage boxes, so they’re 1” thick, paint them to match the casing. I’ve seen people drill a larger whole, similar to what you’d use for security, and put a plug kind of like a press fit in, but it depends if you have a cavity behind the casing for the wires to press back in to. If it’s mounting to the wall, you can of course leave it in the Sheetrock. And then we see a lot of people just leave the wire exposed.
Nice video! But why do you recommend wired vs wireless shades or why did your view change? Yes, batteries can be a pain to change, but wireless shade batteries should last a few years and the shades seem to be extremely reliable (at least the Lutron ones).
When you start getting into the Control, and just more complex installations where you're coordinating all the moving parts, lighting, room scenes, whole home scenes, voice control, etc. As well as things like pocket shades, dual rollers, etc wireless introduces more challenges for reliability that just aren't worth the headache. Lutron likely has the most reliable 'wireless' solution on the market. We have a home in Florida where the lutron wireless solution hasn't been reliable at all. We didn't provide the shades, but we were hired to program and integrate them and it's been a complete disaster. There's too much interference from construction elements. The amount of service time, tweaking, warranty vs what it would have cost to just do wired doesn't make sense. And that's the other side of it, depending on the manufacturer, wired shades are often cheaper than battery powered shades. In some applications if the window is large enough, wired is the only option. We're not against battery powered, or even solar powered shades. I just think if you know you're going to use motorized shades it's better to wire both control and power. If it's an after thought, then for sure Battery or solar are good options that work well enough.
@@SmartHomeBrothers Agree. I have 10 years of experience working with all sorts of product. RTS motors are great for simple applications, I've ran into countless of problems trying to integrate with dry contact interfaces because someone doesn't sell the right application to the client. If you are integrating everything in the home, office, or building, wired installation is the way to go.
You mention all common brands (so assuming you're familiar w/ fitting them) - is there 1 u find 2 be of better build quality / functionality than the others? We're considering Lutron but would love to know if we should consider one of the others! U also mention the ICE cable lutron wire jacket but it seems they have multiple models (Lutron QS/M, Lutron Green, Etc) - are there differences?
Lutron is hella expensive. Great product, but genuinely just too much for window shades. What did you go with? If nothing yet, what part of the country are you in?
@@IncreaseYourPatience Depends which one, but Lutron isn't that expensive comparitively. Look at something like Hunter Douglas and Lutron looks affordable. Of course, this does depend somewhat on which Lutron line we're talking about.
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You’re welcome, and thanks! 👊🏼
Perfect video! Working on a new build and going with Lutron shades. So stoked to be pre wiring before the drywall goes up.
thanks my friend, all the best on your prewire
Awesome very helpful video. Thank you. Is there a tips and tricks of the actual wiring work done in the walls studs? Would love to learn best practices of how to run the wires and spacing management.
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Great video. I thought you where going to show how to do it.
The Lutron tech I spoke with said to use 18/2 wire for the Sivoia QS 10 Power Supply Panel.
Our recommendations are for basic, generic wiring-if you didn’t know the brand make and model yet.
In this case, follow the manufactures wiring recommendations.
And thanks for reaching out!
Have you found a decent way to bring the wire in through the window casing cleanly? I’ve seen some guys hide it behind a small grommet
why run 16/2 and cat6 at the window vs just 16/4? any particular reasoning for the cat6 at the window? asking because im running the 16/4 to every window from a central dc distribution box but wasn't sure what the extra cat6 would do.
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Can we install power outlet directly on the top corner window looks good to plug in power adapter?
What do you suggest, given the wire will be visible, for certain windows/doors where the owner isn't sure whether they are going to want or need shades, and will only decide after construction is complete and they move in?
That’s always a pain point with wiring shades if you aren’t planning shades immediately, and again it depends on the job site, how those windows are cased in, and where specifically shades are.
We’ve used low voltage boxes, so they’re 1” thick, paint them to match the casing.
I’ve seen people drill a larger whole, similar to what you’d use for security, and put a plug kind of like a press fit in, but it depends if you have a cavity behind the casing for the wires to press back in to.
If it’s mounting to the wall, you can of course leave it in the Sheetrock. And then we see a lot of people just leave the wire exposed.
Great video. Couldn’t find this info anywhere else.
Question: I'm looking at Savant for Home automation for a new home. Will all dealers pricing be similar?
Nice video! But why do you recommend wired vs wireless shades or why did your view change? Yes, batteries can be a pain to change, but wireless shade batteries should last a few years and the shades seem to be extremely reliable (at least the Lutron ones).
When you start getting into the Control, and just more complex installations where you're coordinating all the moving parts, lighting, room scenes, whole home scenes, voice control, etc. As well as things like pocket shades, dual rollers, etc wireless introduces more challenges for reliability that just aren't worth the headache.
Lutron likely has the most reliable 'wireless' solution on the market. We have a home in Florida where the lutron wireless solution hasn't been reliable at all. We didn't provide the shades, but we were hired to program and integrate them and it's been a complete disaster. There's too much interference from construction elements. The amount of service time, tweaking, warranty vs what it would have cost to just do wired doesn't make sense.
And that's the other side of it, depending on the manufacturer, wired shades are often cheaper than battery powered shades. In some applications if the window is large enough, wired is the only option.
We're not against battery powered, or even solar powered shades. I just think if you know you're going to use motorized shades it's better to wire both control and power. If it's an after thought, then for sure Battery or solar are good options that work well enough.
@@SmartHomeBrothers Ahh thanks so much! Makes sense.
@@SmartHomeBrothers Agree. I have 10 years of experience working with all sorts of product. RTS motors are great for simple applications, I've ran into countless of problems trying to integrate with dry contact interfaces because someone doesn't sell the right application to the client. If you are integrating everything in the home, office, or building, wired installation is the way to go.
How do you provide power to all the low volt cable for the shades?
You mention all common brands (so assuming you're familiar w/ fitting them) - is there 1 u find 2 be of better build quality / functionality than the others? We're considering Lutron but would love to know if we should consider one of the others!
U also mention the ICE cable lutron wire jacket but it seems they have multiple models (Lutron QS/M, Lutron Green, Etc) - are there differences?
Lutron is hella expensive. Great product, but genuinely just too much for window shades. What did you go with? If nothing yet, what part of the country are you in?
@@IncreaseYourPatience Depends which one, but Lutron isn't that expensive comparitively. Look at something like Hunter Douglas and Lutron looks affordable. Of course, this does depend somewhat on which Lutron line we're talking about.
What happened to this channel? The content was great, but it's like they disappeared.