This Legit happens to me: I play a combo or 'fun' deck that is bad against aggro and 80% of the games is the mono red deck. I get salty switch to a anti aggro deck and literally 80% of my games are against control or combo decks. Its absolutely maddening.
I appreciate the utter frustration when he sees Blackcleave Cliffs, and thinks he's playing another Burn Together deck, and then the look of relief when he realizes it's Lizards, and isn't actually a deck he utterly despises, despite being an aggro deck.
I was playing a trusty B Sheoldreds yesterday (eight Sheoldreds still strong) and ran into this list, just removed *everything* over and over. Had to check my match list to make sure I didn't miss playing against you. Just another Cool Kid.
42:00 Props to SirGaius for taking this timely Lockdown in stride. A lesser player might have salty roped, but they have kind words and an honorable defeat.
I was here for embercleave, here for the mono red song, I've seen fervent champions burned and beheaded, and have a signed playset But Bimbz, you did it, in this lowest of mono red hell, you found the sauce to make it worse
I was here for Goblin Chainwhirler, I was here for Yorion Ultimatums, I was here for Tibalts Trickery. I was here for Winota. I was here for Deafening Clarion/Cycling decks. I was here for Lurrus and Gyruda PRE-Companion nerf. I was even here for Oko. Nothing, I mean nothing is worse than this metta. Worst part, is this is exactly the metta that wizzards wants. Fast no-thinking allowed decks that can be played on your phone while taking a (censored for the special snoflakes)
3:45 they most likely took lockdown over pixie cuz if they take pixie u just lockdown the bat and have can get lockdown again later with pixie which also gives u blade again anyways
Mono Red players don't actually have problem solving skills. That's why "math is for blockers." They can only zug and when they cannot zug their brains 404 error all over the place.
People play mono-red because they want a simple play that results in a short game, which doesn't have time for a lot of edge cases they would have to think over. In short, it is the color choice of people who are afraid of thinking. Throw them into a slow or unfamiliar game-state and they will immediately start to panic.
A huge thank you, CGB. My own slight variation on this deck (4 legions to ashes in exchange for a few Sawblades and witches) hard-carried me to mythic from diamond 4 with nearly an 80% win-rate.
What tokens or noncreature targets are you hitting with Legions to Ashes that made it feel worthwhile for you to go up to a 3 mana removal spell? I was looking through comments on the vid to try and find the latest technology. I've been running Nowhere to Hide and a one-of Surgical Suite that's been playing nicely. Trying to see if there are other cards I've missed. Are you still playing this deck post-Duskmourne? The new matchup that is the toughest to win is Abhorrent Oculus reanimator. Even though it's a sorcery, the exile on Legions to Ashes could help. Anoint with Affliction (Not on My Watch & Parting Gust less so), Ghost Vacuum, Kutzil's Flanker, and Lord Skitter are the others I've considered to improve that matchup. Rest in Peace hoses us too hard to consider.
Been waiting for this video. I've been crushing the high Bo3 mythic ladder with this deck(but with Rottenmouth Viper). And it absolutely destroys aggro. Knew it was only a matter of time, it's a free matchup. And the deck is legit very fun with a lot of lines and decision points. And it potentially gets better with a flash -3/-3 enchantment in the next set that turns off ward and hexproof. But also, I regularly have the same issue as that last game for whatever reason. See 12 cards over the course of a game and 10 of them are lands. The deck sees so many cards with extra draws and scrys, but I seem to get flooded so much more than usual.
Just saw the new red Leyline spoiler from Duskmourn and rememberd you saying you see these cards before we do... Suddenly, I understood your rage against mono red even better... Turn 2 kills in Standard are disgusting :p
This deck made me feel like an absolute villain. Three pixies and two hopeless nighmares against a mull-to-five that wasn't mono-red, they removed one creature and then scooped to not wanting to be hellbent for the rest of the game... But then mono-red scooped to a single sawblade and balance was restored to the world!
One of my games vs monored today l played a Thalia & Gitrog, then opponent played two Slickshots and l see the Thalia light up. "Shoot first, ask questions later" at its finest.
Nothing more obnoxious in this world than someone having a deck with the most binary options in the game, suddenly pretending to be brain damaged when they aren't rolling their opponent
been seeing this pop around pretty interesting deck, ive been looking into that sac my creature to kill your thing bring it back that black white deck awhile back cant remember but I wonder if that deck is still hot
ii had quite varied opponents when playing fae blade, easy mythic. Now changed to Ygra in explorer.. only mirror matches and mono red. Really can't figure out what voodoo WOC use for match making.
If you want to see a really disgusting combo engine, try nurturing pixie + hopeless nightmare + misthbreath elder. The elder grows each turn and keeps the pixie train going.
Kind of funny seeing things from the opposite perspective. I usually play aggro in standard and ive had 2 blue white control players attempt to rope me out while i was on boros mice lol
i have a similar deck for fnms, i call it tithing braids :p, I think the list here works great to farm aggro, but in bo3 against a local meta with more midrange and control, ive been liking sideboard hate/stax pieces as well as lively dirge and case of the stashed skeleton to get those hate pieces/the braids and zoraline consistently
I played against a monored player today that drew all 4 heartfire heroes in his top 11 cards, as well as 3 ruckus. Anything else would have been okay as i had deathtouch blockers and removal
I tried to play some rogue decks in standard and all 3 hours of me trying to play it was either mono red or I had every single thing removed. Very boring. I don't know how you put up with it.
as if it wasnt bad enough, the sprinting zombie from duskmourn is going to make mono red even more annoying because it will give them reecursive gas ...
Gotta agree with the commenter - I will play my deck, face endless mono-red, lose terribly, break out my anti-mono-red removal deck, and not see a single one of them. Arena is blatantly protecting mono-red.
I mean, Re getting to mythic by countering red, I barely see red. Currently plat2, Finished 98% mythic last rotation. Climbed last season with a deck that won against everything BUT red, currently playing a greedy golgari reanimator list. Maybe the decklists confused the algo or something because I'm not net decking, but my REAL theory is that I play traditional and red is really bad outside of Bo1.
@@hewhoisnamed9050 Yes and I hate it, I play historic and it's really frustrating to play humans just to face only unbeatable elfs or angels, and when I can't take it anymore, switch to mill and all I face are control decks. I get that on quick play they pair similar power level decks, but on ranked should be random opponents and the one with the better deck and strategy wins.
I have to say CGB, I am not a red player and I don't have the skill to get there anyway, but you saying you are making a doc of shame for mono red players who have fought you is just about the greatest motivation to play mono red I have ever felt, just to get myself on that list for no other reason than the fact you pointed it out XD. But don't worry, even though I have this sudden desire to do so just for the sake of it, I definitely won't be. But if there were anything that would have convinced me, that would have been it... :3
The game is in such a stupid spot right now. In my past 20 games I have seen 6 mono red and 14 super anti mono red decks. I hate metas where one deck is so consistent and dominant you either play that deck or one that hard counters it.
I swear the shuffler and the match maker both cheat. Every time I go on ladder with a red spank deck I never see red but run into God awful number of control decks which the decks tend to be weak against. Then I switch over to something more midrange and fun and I run into almost nothing but stupid 3rd turn red decks.
I can't get enough of those red players impression, i am just the same every game i play them meaning 86 time a day, those poor souls.. there brain explode if they can't get a win by turn two or three, is like they are running in their mom basement or in the toilet but in the basement mainly breaking shit , coming back during the rope if what they see is real and then go scream on their mom like scumbag they are because..... well because they play red since they born, ot got bully at school.seeing them read card is pure gold. some of them read years old cards imagine that shit is real ! i assure you it is.
Is the monored hate a bit? I think fast decks have a place in the game so I dont get the hate. It can be fun. Maybe its the control deck bias? Or playing against it for hundreds of hours...
Nailed it at the end. The issue is a few things. Mono red is everywhere, it's every other game. The problem is that their gameplan requires no amount of creativity or thought. They can kill you with a hastey flier on turn three if they have the nut opening hand. Meaning that for the opponent it's a coin flip instead of a game. "Did I have instant speed removal and have the mana up? No? Then I take lethal or near lethal" a boring binary if you're playing this game often
The play pattern doesn’t really vary so it’s quite boring to play against, it wouldn’t be so bad if the algorithm wasn’t screwing you over at the same time
nah it wasn't a plan. the butthurt monored guy was just SOMAD that his 78% winrate netdeck didn't win on turn 3. I see this alllll the time. don't get it wrong now, other players rope out too, but more monored player do it..
Wait. You claimed to farm red in the last video, yet it was match after match of you getting blown up. I'm going to see if that is the case again ( incorrect clock bait title ).
This Legit happens to me: I play a combo or 'fun' deck that is bad against aggro and 80% of the games is the mono red deck. I get salty switch to a anti aggro deck and literally 80% of my games are against control or combo decks. Its absolutely maddening.
gotta log that mtga algorithm ,on all aspects of the game
The only way to break the cycle is playing monored or a pure anti meta deck
@@alexandersims1613it’s to help bad players, who will then spend more time in game and probably more money.
I don't get when people say the match up algorithm isn't rigged 😂😂
@@renefonck8920it's because they ride for a massive corporation that only cares about taking their money
I appreciate the utter frustration when he sees Blackcleave Cliffs, and thinks he's playing another Burn Together deck, and then the look of relief when he realizes it's Lizards, and isn't actually a deck he utterly despises, despite being an aggro deck.
"Oh, you're really trying huh? Only 21 points short too." Lol
Imagine being so bad at something that someone made a shame list.
And then being oblivious to it.
Your anti red series this season has been thet most fun To watch.
I was playing a trusty B Sheoldreds yesterday (eight Sheoldreds still strong) and ran into this list, just removed *everything* over and over. Had to check my match list to make sure I didn't miss playing against you. Just another Cool Kid.
I am not even playing Arena for a long time now, but still watching CGB. Dunking on Mono Red will never stop being fun
42:00 Props to SirGaius for taking this timely Lockdown in stride. A lesser player might have salty roped, but they have kind words and an honorable defeat.
I was here for embercleave, here for the mono red song, I've seen fervent champions burned and beheaded, and have a signed playset
But Bimbz, you did it, in this lowest of mono red hell, you found the sauce to make it worse
Great comment. Thanks for the laugh.
With a little garnish of hemp for the rope.
Salty rope loses are bad in any color and flavour
I was here for Goblin Chainwhirler, I was here for Yorion Ultimatums, I was here for Tibalts Trickery. I was here for Winota. I was here for Deafening Clarion/Cycling decks. I was here for Lurrus and Gyruda PRE-Companion nerf. I was even here for Oko. Nothing, I mean nothing is worse than this metta. Worst part, is this is exactly the metta that wizzards wants. Fast no-thinking allowed decks that can be played on your phone while taking a (censored for the special snoflakes)
@@cardigansruleCGBs rock deck from yesterday is glorious. Watching mono red stare helplessly at glissa, is the most fun I’ve had in a while.
3:45 they most likely took lockdown over pixie cuz if they take pixie u just lockdown the bat and have can get lockdown again later with pixie which also gives u blade again anyways
My thought process was, I am screwed no matter what I pick there.
2:02 oppenent says hello and you respond with "your go" is insane
He's making a list, he's checking it twice, he really knows who's naughty or nice, CGB is comin' to Brawl
I love how mean you are to mono red. This is why I watch daily.
Why do mono red players always play so slowly when they're tilted?
Mono Red players don't actually have problem solving skills. That's why "math is for blockers." They can only zug and when they cannot zug their brains 404 error all over the place.
People play mono-red because they want a simple play that results in a short game, which doesn't have time for a lot of edge cases they would have to think over. In short, it is the color choice of people who are afraid of thinking. Throw them into a slow or unfamiliar game-state and they will immediately start to panic.
I never comment on videos, but this video was hilarious. Your disdain for mono red and wrecking it with this deck was just gold.
A huge thank you, CGB. My own slight variation on this deck (4 legions to ashes in exchange for a few Sawblades and witches) hard-carried me to mythic from diamond 4 with nearly an 80% win-rate.
What tokens or noncreature targets are you hitting with Legions to Ashes that made it feel worthwhile for you to go up to a 3 mana removal spell?
I was looking through comments on the vid to try and find the latest technology. I've been running Nowhere to Hide and a one-of Surgical Suite that's been playing nicely. Trying to see if there are other cards I've missed.
Are you still playing this deck post-Duskmourne? The new matchup that is the toughest to win is Abhorrent Oculus reanimator. Even though it's a sorcery, the exile on Legions to Ashes could help. Anoint with Affliction (Not on My Watch & Parting Gust less so), Ghost Vacuum, Kutzil's Flanker, and Lord Skitter are the others I've considered to improve that matchup. Rest in Peace hoses us too hard to consider.
Been waiting for this video. I've been crushing the high Bo3 mythic ladder with this deck(but with Rottenmouth Viper). And it absolutely destroys aggro. Knew it was only a matter of time, it's a free matchup. And the deck is legit very fun with a lot of lines and decision points.
And it potentially gets better with a flash -3/-3 enchantment in the next set that turns off ward and hexproof.
But also, I regularly have the same issue as that last game for whatever reason. See 12 cards over the course of a game and 10 of them are lands. The deck sees so many cards with extra draws and scrys, but I seem to get flooded so much more than usual.
I've been puttering around with something similar. Got a list?
I've doing the same with viper ! Wanna share your list ?
So happy you made a video on this deck again ! I've been playing a version of this deck with the rottenmouth viper since Blb came out
That player and your commentary had me dead at @18:10
It's still funny to me how a confession made to Rarran has led to channel branding haha
CGB out here making lists and stuff
Shotout to Bimbz for acting as a 3 yr old when he's 9 yrs old
☠️
I love how many people arrive within a minute to watch his amazing content, keep up the great work CGB and community.
Backstreet's back alright!
I've got a version of this deck with Bandit's Talents and Ghirapur angels as well for more blinking and hand-killing. It's a fun off-meta way to play.
I love the Doc of Shame idea. Brings me back to 2016 Jericho, good times...
Thanks Bimbz, this was the perfect video for me to fall asleep to
I have a similar list with uWu control players that pair "oops" with every counterspell
Just saw the new red Leyline spoiler from Duskmourn and rememberd you saying you see these cards before we do... Suddenly, I understood your rage against mono red even better... Turn 2 kills in Standard are disgusting :p
This deck made me feel like an absolute villain. Three pixies and two hopeless nighmares against a mull-to-five that wasn't mono-red, they removed one creature and then scooped to not wanting to be hellbent for the rest of the game... But then mono-red scooped to a single sawblade and balance was restored to the world!
I knew this deck was coming. It's durdley like anvil, and CBG goes for those when the best decks are used it.
Welp - another hilarious video with plenty of insight on how to play the game better. Appreciated!!
One of my games vs monored today l played a Thalia & Gitrog, then opponent played two Slickshots and l see the Thalia light up.
"Shoot first, ask questions later" at its finest.
Nothing more obnoxious in this world than someone having a deck with the most binary options in the game, suddenly pretending to be brain damaged when they aren't rolling their opponent
I don't get it
Pretending?
@@renefonck8920 If you play monored that's understandable :)
I have had a Hall of Shame for years glad it caught on.
Beautiful deck mate!
Fingers crossed he pulls out the giant sunglasses and evil CGB character when he runs a version of mono red 😎
That list needs to be shout out every video. Out for repeat counts before the next set is out. 😂
The birth of the most important list since Chris Jericho
Is the opinion on mono red aggro specifically for these dump your hand on hastey creatures? I play big mono red based on saffron olives deck.
been seeing this pop around pretty interesting deck, ive been looking into that sac my creature to kill your thing bring it back that black white deck awhile back cant remember but I wonder if that deck is still hot
ii had quite varied opponents when playing fae blade, easy mythic. Now changed to Ygra in explorer.. only mirror matches and mono red. Really can't figure out what voodoo WOC use for match making.
I was thinking of making something similar with Karevek making tokens of black permanents and the talent making copies.
If you want to see a really disgusting combo engine, try nurturing pixie + hopeless nightmare + misthbreath elder. The elder grows each turn and keeps the pixie train going.
YOURE GOING ON THE LIST
Have you tried Whiskervale Forerunner yet? so many good 3 cost creatures and other creatures which target every combat.
Watching monored get destroyed makes me happy
Kind of funny seeing things from the opposite perspective. I usually play aggro in standard and ive had 2 blue white control players attempt to rope me out while i was on boros mice lol
i have a similar deck for fnms, i call it tithing braids :p, I think the list here works great to farm aggro, but in bo3 against a local meta with more midrange and control, ive been liking sideboard hate/stax pieces as well as lively dirge and case of the stashed skeleton to get those hate pieces/the braids and zoraline consistently
Did you hear about the new red leyline being printed into standard? I'm sure you're less than thrilled about it lol
what's that ?
About time a streamer called out the mono red scrubs.
Nice CGB
Love the Mono Red Shame List 😂
Down to Mars ghoul is amazing
Witch's Vanity reverse Fable confirmed! xD
I played against a monored player today that drew all 4 heartfire heroes in his top 11 cards, as well as 3 ruckus. Anything else would have been okay as i had deathtouch blockers and removal
Always thought about making a list of salt ropers, I dont have enough space on my hard drive though 😂
Sweet Zaroline ... BOM BOM BOM ... anyone else? Just me? K.
A one of beza is probably the right number in most decks, honestly
"these decks just roll over and die, it's so sad. But it's not sad, it's wonderful" 😂😂😂😂
How much do I have to spend on the game to overcome my shame?
I tried to play some rogue decks in standard and all 3 hours of me trying to play it was either mono red or I had every single thing removed. Very boring. I don't know how you put up with it.
as if it wasnt bad enough, the sprinting zombie from duskmourn is going to make mono red even more annoying because it will give them reecursive gas ...
Could watch mono red get destroyed all day. So satisfying.
Win rate?
Oh mono red players better watch out now. The One in Best of One has a naughty list😂
So how about that Leyline of Resonance
Bagro is doing well for me at the moment.
Shoutouts to Bimbz!
Jarvis Shore
Gotta agree with the commenter - I will play my deck, face endless mono-red, lose terribly, break out my anti-mono-red removal deck, and not see a single one of them. Arena is blatantly protecting mono-red.
I mean, Re getting to mythic by countering red, I barely see red. Currently plat2, Finished 98% mythic last rotation. Climbed last season with a deck that won against everything BUT red, currently playing a greedy golgari reanimator list. Maybe the decklists confused the algo or something because I'm not net decking, but my REAL theory is that I play traditional and red is really bad outside of Bo1.
its a cool card, you can play it in your deck.
Backstreet... Is back. ALRIGHT
Who didn't get that reference is born after 2k
-1Hp and 10 poison... does it count as a double victory?
maybe try invasion instead of saw blades?
Literally a Pauper deck
Ahh the Heel Jericho comment
But what if I give it a monstrous rage NOW!
lol the doc of shame.
Is this really what BO1 is like? 80% red aggro? Or is CGB just unlucky? Lol
Aggro is alot better in BO1 than BO3 in general since no sideboards to gut em
It pairs you up based on your deck more often than not
Every time I play an anti red deck I get red once every ten games. Switch to a good mid-range deck and get ran over by red six games in a row
@@hewhoisnamed9050 Yes and I hate it, I play historic and it's really frustrating to play humans just to face only unbeatable elfs or angels, and when I can't take it anymore, switch to mill and all I face are control decks.
I get that on quick play they pair similar power level decks, but on ranked should be random opponents and the one with the better deck and strategy wins.
I have to say CGB, I am not a red player and I don't have the skill to get there anyway, but you saying you are making a doc of shame for mono red players who have fought you is just about the greatest motivation to play mono red I have ever felt, just to get myself on that list for no other reason than the fact you pointed it out XD.
But don't worry, even though I have this sudden desire to do so just for the sake of it, I definitely won't be. But if there were anything that would have convinced me, that would have been it... :3
BO1 really devovled into mono red and anti mono red decks XD
Every video:
Waaah, mono red
* beats them anyway *
Cries more
Killed Bimbz twice in one turn lol
Need a “shame” emote on mtga
i think i just got out of spark rank and my first match was mono red net deck bronze 5 champion 💀
At some point in his life he was touched by a red player
The game is in such a stupid spot right now. In my past 20 games I have seen 6 mono red and 14 super anti mono red decks. I hate metas where one deck is so consistent and dominant you either play that deck or one that hard counters it.
Hey I got to be on youtube. I lost horrible thou :/
Braids
Cgb said what I think. Embercleave Red was a very good deck, this one is garbage.
CGB, brother Falcon.
Please, have a look at Mythic Mikes decks to MURDER meta decks.
P.S loving the content lately
"Crimes of playing monored slowly" haha is there anything more annoying?
Nice.😅
I swear the shuffler and the match maker both cheat. Every time I go on ladder with a red spank deck I never see red but run into God awful number of control decks which the decks tend to be weak against. Then I switch over to something more midrange and fun and I run into almost nothing but stupid 3rd turn red decks.
I can't get enough of those red players impression, i am just the same every game i play them meaning 86 time a day, those poor souls.. there brain explode if they can't get a win by turn two or three, is like they are running in their mom basement or in the toilet but in the basement mainly breaking shit , coming back during the rope if what they see is real and then go scream on their mom like scumbag they are because..... well because they play red since they born, ot got bully at school.seeing them read card is pure gold. some of them read years old cards imagine that shit is real ! i assure you it is.
Is the monored hate a bit? I think fast decks have a place in the game so I dont get the hate. It can be fun. Maybe its the control deck bias? Or playing against it for hundreds of hours...
Nailed it at the end. The issue is a few things. Mono red is everywhere, it's every other game. The problem is that their gameplan requires no amount of creativity or thought. They can kill you with a hastey flier on turn three if they have the nut opening hand. Meaning that for the opponent it's a coin flip instead of a game. "Did I have instant speed removal and have the mana up? No? Then I take lethal or near lethal" a boring binary if you're playing this game often
The play pattern doesn’t really vary so it’s quite boring to play against, it wouldn’t be so bad if the algorithm wasn’t screwing you over at the same time
Git Gud 😃🤙
nah it wasn't a plan. the butthurt monored guy was just SOMAD that his 78% winrate netdeck didn't win on turn 3. I see this alllll the time. don't get it wrong now, other players rope out too, but more monored player do it..
Wait. You claimed to farm red in the last video, yet it was match after match of you getting blown up. I'm going to see if that is the case again ( incorrect clock bait title ).