Love it. Send our boys down to Brunswick Street for a training run - can't fence us out that way - and my old Fitzroy ghosts with come out to play - Bunton, Smallhorn & Ryan - three Brownlow medalists in the one side - 'build it, they will come'
I was told about a 15 years ago that there were a few people in high places at the Club that felt the biggest threat to Carlton making money, playing finals and winning its next flag was a large chunk of the membership base. A wall was slowly built and members went from owners of the club to consumers. They were SCARED of challenges by what they called “outsiders” to board positions etc.They pushed to change the constitution so that emergency General meetings became very difficult to trigger by ordinary members. The shifting of the AGM to just before the start of the following season and closed training sessions are all part of the wall built to separate members AND THEIR CONCERNS from the players and club officials. It was different when I grew up living walking distance from Princes Park. I felt part of the club and officials and players would often stop and have lengthy conversations with fans at training sessions. Some very heated arguments- but respect was there and love for the navy blue jumper and players was at the core. It was a community. The Blues are the worst at it today when they were the best in the past. The Club was never SCARED of its members. Players didnt need security - we were the security. I sometimes watch the Bulldogs train and the atmosphere reminds me of the past at Princes Park.
Hey Petra , never guess who , but ,we had them on toast when a series of deceitful Narcissistic, sycophantic Abrogators of responsibility have put CARLTON so far back , it's a criminal deed ,done by the past , we need to move on and all be together, United Together We'll Never Be Defeated. GO BLUES RARARA
@@Ducatirati Agree....but our club still has an iron wall erected between members and its decisions makers - even between players and fans. They're scared - and it has shown in the club's performances. Turned the corner a little bit under Voss, but the challenges facing the coach are not entirely Football related in my opinion. It will need to come from the playing group and my connection is with the players - we should rally around them when they are trying their best. and they should expect criticism if they show mediocrity or disinterest. First step is to open up the ground during training sessions for the fans.
@@PetraKann Spot on, Petra. I had a relative working at the club a while back and he pretty much mirrored this statement. He also said that certain things had improved somewhat under Brendan Bolton, but took a large step backwards during Teague's tenure. So much so, that he ended up leaving.
What are the intangibles, that make a footy club a footy club , I think ppl forget too readily and now for my generation , 8 flags , to can't get a kick in a stampede, all need to revist 1910 , when Collingwood won that year's GF , at CARLTONS expense as Collingwood bribed Carlton and Sth Melb players , two suspended for 18 mths and heaps of other malice , but , when the gravity of Collingwoods actions became evident ,Carlton Commitee , called an all members extraordinary meeting , deal with certain distasteful disgusting and then Read a Decree , that never again, shall CARLTON ever EVER lose another G F to Collingwood , This ACTUALLY is a rivalry , Carl Def Coll 1915 GF , Carlton Def Coll 1938 GF , Carl Def Coll 1970 GF in front of 121,696 ppl , a record crowd , Carl Def Coll 1979 GF , Carl Def Coll 1981 GF , 130 plus years now that is A rivalry the OLDEST , this is where CARLTON cut her teeth , That is Carlton , and all must watch this and get on the same page , all will balance if we all pull together as a team . GO BLUES
Absolute spot on Bucky! Our club do not allow people to go watch training! I mean we are the coughers who put money into that club, so they should allow us access to training!
Could not agree more Bucky. Its all about fencing us off like a mob of sheep then letting us out so we buy the merch in the Carlton shop. I also remember the days of just rocking up to training and feeling part of the club.
I walked in on a closed training session one day at Carlton because they left one of the gates open. Brendan Bolton walked over and told me to get out after I told him I was a member 😂
@@lawriemcdonald4554 so you snuck in when you knew it was closed? Totally disrespecting the club and their reasons for doing so.l? No wonder you were told to clear off. There are many hateful, nasty, loudmouthed members who think they can go along amd criticise and joke from the stands. That would be a huge distraction. And why would be risk a spy learning our set plays anyway?. Its not the 80s or even 90s anymore. Things are a bit more intensive that circle work these days. You pay a membership to supprt the club financially. In return you get to go to some games and get some merch. It doesnt give you entry to the inner sanctum or to be included in everything. The entitlement is off the hook.
@ get off your high horse mate. As if anyone would have wanted to spy on Carlton at that time 😂 Collingwood and Richmond won premierships with every training session in plain sight 👍
@lawriemcdonald4554 hahaha yeah as if the decision to have open or closed training sessions has anything to do with winning flags or not? Hahaha High horse? Haha nah, you and people like you are just entitled crybabies. Its irrelevent whether we were good or bad at that time, we still didnt want outsiders at the club or distractions. And most respect that. And most people have control of their emotions and are adults and know where they stand. The petulant outbursts from some so called 'supporters' are off the hook. A tiny minority of empty tins rattling. Another example, West Coast and Sydney didnt allow anyone in and that went ok?? Better to be on a real high horse than a little toy rocking horse champ! 😀👍
@travprice3979 Trav , that's the problem , we as members have no say. Can't call an extraordinary meeting, we are not stakeholders like we were now , it's a divided factional nightmate , these things must change , invest In your Membership as they invest in the Club , back on topic , United together we'll never be defeated, the paranoid factions must get on board and get the members a few flags , Carlton need to get cracking, and I think now they are on the right track , but together, members matter . R
Good video mate coming from a Dons supporter Got a bit of a soft spot for the blues i think both our clubs for a long time have been controlled by the coterie groups and bad administration. Hoping to see both our clubs get out of it and back on the up i know theres a bit of banter here and there but sometimes the best footy chats are with rival supporters. Hoping for some good clashes against you guys in 2025 all the best
Mate thats unreal. You're right there next to the boys doing their running and no ones telling you off. Essendons got the fan experinece down pat, but not the on field performance.
That’s their second oval which is open to public. The main oval is closed. Getting turf replaced. Anyone can go for a kick or watch Essendon on this oval at the moment.
no you cant go for kick on it they dont allow you on the ground not sure if they let on the second oval l am a Essendon member have watch them train many times at the hanga have good cafe to make great coffee
Loved this Buck. What do you think the reason is? Like at first i assumed it was IP. But few you can just walk in and watch? Youd think the trade theyd get is fantastic in the shop and coffee house especially with school holidays?
It is a bloody joke. 100% agree. Every school holidays I want to go down with my daughter, live bayside so it's a bit of a hike. So I email the club first, never open for training. The closed trainings should be the exception not the norm.
Wow, how close were you to them. Absolutely fantastic. Imagine if it was Crippa, Walsh, Harry and co. Why cant we do this? Cmon Carlton hierarchy give the fans what they want considering you say you "value our support". We have to be better than this.go blues.
So frustrating the way our club goes about it.Once upon a time we were able to just walk through and watch them train,now it’s as if it’s North Korea,like a hermit state,what do they have to hide ffs.I’m an interstate member so I obviously don’t get to go to the ground very often but I can just imagine how frustrating it must be for Melbourne based supporters who despite living in the same city as the club still don’t get the chance on a weekly basis to watch them train.Btw when they finally came over to Perth late last year they decided to cancel open training because it was raining on the day🙄last time I checked footy is played in the winter months when it more than likely it’s going to bloody rain
@@richardbehan8118 cheers mate. I got there at about 11 but it was the backend of the session. I reckon they would have started at about 9. Cheers for the sub & welcome 🙏
I am only speculating. If it becomes open to the public they will lose the naming rights revenue. A branding dilemma - home of CFC, Cleaning company, home of AFLWhatevs or Princess Park (the park belongs to the local council). They don't want the public to be damaging the surface. A cloak of secrecy around our game plan/Mr Men book. They don't want the heads of the families conducting business there/don't want to feature in another crime series.
Let em telegraph their punches. You buy a membership to support the club, not to be included in everything. The vitriol when you say "our fucking club" is off the hook.
Wow, we can’t watch training. Big deal. How much training can you watch before you get bored out of your mind? I’m a Carltonians member and a few open training sessions a year is more than enough for me.
Not everyone thinks like you do Brad, I am sure there would be plenty of kids wanting to go with their parents. Seeing their players up close will certainly inspire some to go onto bigger and better things.
I assume that Princess Park is not open to the public, like some ovals have been, like Vic Park, for example. Why not Princess park is the question and should be put to the board at the next AGM. I hate the use of the term 'the noise', which is used by the club. In other words you're all irrelevant and only the club have anything of value to add - shame on you CFC. That said l have signed up again and look forward to another footy season. Good vidz thanks.
You're alot like essendon in some ways, 2 former great clubs that are now run of the mill relic clubs in the league, only difference is they've realised that now and your fan base still refuses to in some pathetic desire to always compare to Collingwood, being honest you respect them way too much and that's why you always lose to them. Hawthorn always beat Collingwood because Hawthorn don't view them as anything other than another Melbourne based club.
My family have all cancelled their memberships for 2025, all disgusted in how Kennedy and Owies were treated. Have a good Xmas Bucky and hope to hear more of Banger as I think we are going to need it next year.
So Kennedy wanted more time as an inside mid and could not be guarranteed that by the ckub, so it was a mutual decision by him and the club to benefit Matt. He was still a required player. Word is Owies amd management did put that ridiculous price on his head, which the club said no to...and rightly so. His management then went into damage control so Owies had a career going forward. Owies kicked 30 but his direct opponents kicked 15. Think about that for a while?! If you put two players before the club, you can join them then. The monogram on the front takes prirority over the number on the back. The club wont miss the few of you. Ill sign up half a dozen of my family to make up your numbers ok?! No biggie. Many of you dont miss a chance to bag the club. You buy a membership to support, not to be a hanger on!
@@travprice3979 keeping 3 smalls in the forward line that cant kick 20 goals between them? Doesn't make sense. 3 young go getters that cant get a game.
@daniello9155 and before you bring Fantasia into it, he's contracted on minimum wage. Owies was out of contract and wanted Charlie Curnow money. Haha seriously?!
I’m an Essendon supporter & the Hanger was designed to be open intentionally, anyone can attend any training session. It’s great
Great video mate Essendon supporter here let's hope our clubs can get into a granny and win one soon all the best to your boys 👍
Good job, mate! A nice positive commentary from a footy lover too. Feel free to visit again!
Love it. Send our boys down to Brunswick Street for a training run - can't fence us out that way - and my old Fitzroy ghosts with come out to play - Bunton, Smallhorn & Ryan - three Brownlow medalists in the one side - 'build it, they will come'
Spot on Bucky all members need to write in to the club demanding for more open training sessions
Every session should be open it’s BS
I was told about a 15 years ago that there were a few people in high places at the Club that felt the biggest threat to Carlton making money, playing finals and winning its next flag was a large chunk of the membership base.
A wall was slowly built and members went from owners of the club to consumers.
They were SCARED of challenges by what they called “outsiders” to board positions etc.They pushed to change the constitution so that emergency General meetings became very difficult to trigger by ordinary members.
The shifting of the AGM to just before the start of the following season and closed training sessions are all part of the wall built to separate members AND THEIR CONCERNS from the players and club officials.
It was different when I grew up living walking distance from Princes Park.
I felt part of the club and officials and players would often stop and have lengthy conversations with fans at training sessions.
Some very heated arguments- but respect was there and love for the navy blue jumper and players was at the core.
It was a community.
The Blues are the worst at it today when they were the best in the past.
The Club was never SCARED of its members. Players didnt need security - we were the security.
I sometimes watch the Bulldogs train and the atmosphere reminds me of the past at Princes Park.
@@PetraKann well said 👌
Hey Petra , never guess who , but ,we had them on toast when a series of deceitful Narcissistic, sycophantic Abrogators of responsibility have put CARLTON so far back , it's a criminal deed ,done by the past , we need to move on and all be together, United Together We'll Never Be Defeated. GO BLUES RARARA
@@Ducatirati Agree....but our club still has an iron wall erected between members and its decisions makers - even between players and fans.
They're scared - and it has shown in the club's performances. Turned the corner a little bit under Voss, but the challenges facing the coach are not entirely Football related in my opinion.
It will need to come from the playing group and my connection is with the players - we should rally around them when they are trying their best. and they should expect criticism if they show mediocrity or disinterest.
First step is to open up the ground during training sessions for the fans.
@@PetraKann Spot on, Petra. I had a relative working at the club a while back and he pretty much mirrored this statement. He also said that certain things had improved somewhat under Brendan Bolton, but took a large step backwards during Teague's tenure. So much so, that he ended up leaving.
What are the intangibles, that make a footy club a footy club , I think ppl forget too readily and now for my generation , 8 flags , to can't get a kick in a stampede, all need to revist 1910 , when Collingwood won that year's GF , at CARLTONS expense as Collingwood bribed Carlton and Sth Melb players , two suspended for 18 mths and heaps of other malice , but , when the gravity of Collingwoods actions became evident ,Carlton Commitee , called an all members extraordinary meeting , deal with certain distasteful disgusting and then Read a Decree , that never again, shall CARLTON ever EVER lose another G F to Collingwood , This ACTUALLY is a rivalry , Carl Def Coll 1915 GF , Carlton Def Coll 1938 GF , Carl Def Coll 1970 GF in front of 121,696 ppl , a record crowd , Carl Def Coll 1979 GF , Carl Def Coll 1981 GF , 130 plus years now that is A rivalry the OLDEST , this is where CARLTON cut her teeth , That is Carlton , and all must watch this and get on the same page , all will balance if we all pull together as a team . GO BLUES
Just leave the blues and come across to Essendon😊
The Hanger is awesome! Two ovals plus indoor. Best facility in the AFL.
great stuff, I've been down to several Saints sessions and its so good seeing the boys
Great work bud, u love your footy, good work..
Good stuff mate
Absolute spot on Bucky! Our club do not allow people to go watch training! I mean we are the coughers who put money into that club, so they should allow us access to training!
Yes Buck , its one in all in , spread the love , we need our Worth restored . GO BLUES RARARA
LOL i think your spying haha great video
Could not agree more Bucky. Its all about fencing us off like a mob of sheep then letting us out so we buy the merch in the Carlton shop. I also remember the days of just rocking up to training and feeling part of the club.
Well said mate
It was not that way in the past.
Sad to see.....
The difference between a club that still trains on a proper ground as opposed to a club that trains in a paddock
I walked in on a closed training session one day at Carlton because they left one of the gates open. Brendan Bolton walked over and told me to get out after I told him I was a member 😂
@@lawriemcdonald4554 so you snuck in when you knew it was closed? Totally disrespecting the club and their reasons for doing so.l?
No wonder you were told to clear off.
There are many hateful, nasty, loudmouthed members who think they can go along amd criticise and joke from the stands.
That would be a huge distraction.
And why would be risk a spy learning our set plays anyway?.
Its not the 80s or even 90s anymore.
Things are a bit more intensive that circle work these days.
You pay a membership to supprt the club financially.
In return you get to go to some games and get some merch.
It doesnt give you entry to the inner sanctum or to be included in everything.
The entitlement is off the hook.
@ get off your high horse mate. As if anyone would have wanted to spy on Carlton at that time 😂 Collingwood and Richmond won premierships with every training session in plain sight 👍
@lawriemcdonald4554 hahaha yeah as if the decision to have open or closed training sessions has anything to do with winning flags or not? Hahaha
High horse? Haha nah, you and people like you are just entitled crybabies.
Its irrelevent whether we were good or bad at that time, we still didnt want outsiders at the club or distractions.
And most respect that.
And most people have control of their emotions and are adults and know where they stand.
The petulant outbursts from some so called 'supporters' are off the hook.
A tiny minority of empty tins rattling.
Another example, West Coast and Sydney didnt allow anyone in and that went ok??
Better to be on a real high horse than a little toy rocking horse champ! 😀👍
@travprice3979 Trav , that's the problem , we as members have no say. Can't call an extraordinary meeting, we are not stakeholders like we were now , it's a divided factional nightmate , these things must change , invest In your Membership as they invest in the Club , back on topic , United together we'll never be defeated, the paranoid factions must get on board and get the members a few flags , Carlton need to get cracking, and I think now they are on the right track , but together, members matter . R
Something's up when Blues fans are giving us flowers!
Couldn't agree with you more!!!!
Good video mate coming from a Dons supporter
Got a bit of a soft spot for the blues i think both our clubs for a long time have been controlled by the coterie groups and bad administration.
Hoping to see both our clubs get out of it and back on the up i know theres a bit of banter here and there but sometimes the best footy chats are with rival supporters.
Hoping for some good clashes against you guys in 2025 all the best
Mate thats unreal. You're right there next to the boys doing their running and no ones telling you off. Essendons got the fan experinece down pat, but not the on field performance.
Bombers supporter...Great video champ!!
That’s their second oval which is open to public. The main oval is closed. Getting turf replaced. Anyone can go for a kick or watch Essendon on this oval at the moment.
@@RSEB123 yeah, noticed that.
no you cant go for kick on it they dont allow you on the ground not sure if they let on the second oval l am a Essendon member have watch them train many times at the hanga have good cafe to make great coffee
Loved this Buck. What do you think the reason is? Like at first i assumed it was IP. But few you can just walk in and watch? Youd think the trade theyd get is fantastic in the shop and coffee house especially with school holidays?
Not sure mate. Brian Cook arriving. Geelong are the same.
@@myblueheaven3617didnt do them any harm did it?? Would prefer to be more like Geelong than that rabble you admire so much now.
Love to see it! Get up the dons! 🔴⚫
It is a bloody joke. 100% agree. Every school holidays I want to go down with my daughter, live bayside so it's a bit of a hike. So I email the club first, never open for training. The closed trainings should be the exception not the norm.
Wow, how close were you to them. Absolutely fantastic. Imagine if it was Crippa, Walsh, Harry and co. Why cant we do this? Cmon Carlton hierarchy give the fans what they want considering you say you "value our support". We have to be better than this.go blues.
So frustrating the way our club goes about it.Once upon a time we were able to just walk through and watch them train,now it’s as if it’s North Korea,like a hermit state,what do they have to hide ffs.I’m an interstate member so I obviously don’t get to go to the ground very often but I can just imagine how frustrating it must be for Melbourne based supporters who despite living in the same city as the club still don’t get the chance on a weekly basis to watch them train.Btw when they finally came over to Perth late last year they decided to cancel open training because it was raining on the day🙄last time I checked footy is played in the winter months when it more than likely it’s going to bloody rain
@@roccomoro8337 well said mate 👍
What time and day was this? As an Essendon supporter I should probably go down for a gander.
Edit: you got a sub for this🤙
@@richardbehan8118 cheers mate. I got there at about 11 but it was the backend of the session. I reckon they would have started at about 9. Cheers for the sub & welcome 🙏
Cheers..
What about Goschs paddock it’s also open and what’s the big deal
I am only speculating.
If it becomes open to the public they will lose the naming rights revenue. A branding dilemma - home of CFC, Cleaning company, home of AFLWhatevs or Princess Park (the park belongs to the local council). They don't want the public to be damaging the surface. A cloak of secrecy around our game plan/Mr Men book. They don't want the heads of the families conducting business there/don't want to feature in another crime series.
I think we have definitely learned from Essedon not to be doing stuff that Essedon does.
Mate I think you were very lucky
Message received in the first 30 seconds , no idea why a further 7 minutes of watching the scum train was required ?
Let em telegraph their punches. You buy a membership to support the club, not to be included in everything.
The vitriol when you say "our fucking club" is off the hook.
@@travprice3979 give us a spell mate.
You're not there to spike the Kool-aid are you?
@@SLORTA5 😂😂
its interesting to see all the blow flies that have congregated there
@@pweb4941 they were shocking 😂😂
Wow, we can’t watch training. Big deal. How much training can you watch before you get bored out of your mind?
I’m a Carltonians member and a few open training sessions a year is more than enough for me.
@@BradWebsterNOXQZ 💰💰
Not everyone thinks like you do Brad, I am sure there would be plenty of kids wanting to go with their parents. Seeing their players up close will certainly inspire some to go onto bigger and better things.
I assume that Princess Park is not open to the public, like some ovals have been, like Vic Park, for example. Why not Princess park is the question and should be put to the board at the next AGM. I hate the use of the term 'the noise', which is used by the club. In other words you're all irrelevant and only the club have anything of value to add - shame on you CFC. That said l have signed up again and look forward to another footy season. Good vidz thanks.
jesus looks like they needa to some insect population control youd be lucky to not swallow one of those bugs in a session
You're alot like essendon in some ways, 2 former great clubs that are now run of the mill relic clubs in the league, only difference is they've realised that now and your fan base still refuses to in some pathetic desire to always compare to Collingwood, being honest you respect them way too much and that's why you always lose to them. Hawthorn always beat Collingwood because Hawthorn don't view them as anything other than another Melbourne based club.
My family have all cancelled their memberships for 2025, all disgusted in how Kennedy and Owies were treated. Have a good Xmas Bucky and hope to hear more of Banger as I think we are going to need it next year.
Good, the club doesn't need trashy supporters who won't respect club management decisions
Those 2 weren't poorly treated, unlike Eddie B
So Kennedy wanted more time as an inside mid and could not be guarranteed that by the ckub, so it was a mutual decision by him and the club to benefit Matt. He was still a required player.
Word is Owies amd management did put that ridiculous price on his head, which the club said no to...and rightly so.
His management then went into damage control so Owies had a career going forward.
Owies kicked 30 but his direct opponents kicked 15.
Think about that for a while?!
If you put two players before the club, you can join them then.
The monogram on the front takes prirority over the number on the back.
The club wont miss the few of you.
Ill sign up half a dozen of my family to make up your numbers ok?!
No biggie.
Many of you dont miss a chance to bag the club.
You buy a membership to support, not to be a hanger on!
@@travprice3979 keeping 3 smalls in the forward line that cant kick 20 goals between them? Doesn't make sense. 3 young go getters that cant get a game.
@daniello9155 and before you bring Fantasia into it, he's contracted on minimum wage. Owies was out of contract and wanted Charlie Curnow money.
Haha seriously?!
@@Robert-gz8rx exactly! Eddie and Tuohy were absolutey wronged.
But not Kennedy or Owies.
And that was former list management's doing not current.
Essendon foot ball club is better the Carlton foot ball club the the f Carlton foot ball club closed down not cool what are you hideding ?????