Ranking Every Harry Potter Character From Good to Evil (107 Characters)
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Harry Potter’s been my hero ever since I watched movies with my family, he proved himself to be The Boy Who Lived woh defeated Lord Voldemort & ended the trouble he & the Death Eaters have caused with the help of his best friends Ron Weasley & Hermione Granger including Neville Longbottom & I’m also glad that Umbridge & was arrested as a cheap fraud, a dirty liar & a selfish bully she really was
@@DylanPinto22 ooookay
Lockhart in Grey?! The guy ruined many people’s lives by stealing their work and erasing their memories. His negligence as a professor put many students in harms way and I’m pretty sure he would’ve left Harry and Ron to die in the Chamber while he escaped.
Yeah, makes no sense having him in the grey area and at the same time putting Rita Skeeter in the tier below him. I haven't read the books in a good while, but is there a reason why Flitwick and Sprout are in different tiers?
I feal like the fanbase offen under rates how evil Lockhaert's actions are just becoes he didn't do the death eater things
@@mangahell8177It feels like if his memories remained intact he would’ve became a death eater when Voldemort returned.
well i believe that the bottom tier only belongs to people who have done bigger sins like murder, inflicting pain and i don't like him too but i think he's not that evil to be in bottom tier. Actually lockhart just wanted to erase their memory but not leave them to die.
Also, don't forget the strength of the Obliviate curse he tried to use on Ron and Harry that landed him in St. Mungos for life. They saved his life, and were children, not to mention his students. But that meant nothing to him.
I think Fleur and Hagrid should both be heroic. Fleur was one of the decoy Potters. And Hagrid had a few missions from Dumbledore, such as retrieving Harry from Godric's Hollow, his mission with the giants, and the Battle of the Astronomy Tower. I'm pretty sure Fleur fought in that battle as well, but I could be wrong.
And I'm assuming you left out the third Black sister because she wasn't in the movies, but she and her husband belong in at least the good tier. Regulus, also not in the films, probably belongs in the grey or nice tier. He was a death eater, but he had his redemption.
I know right
And Regulus was groomed to be a racist from childhood.. so I can kinda forgive him a little bit
Hagrid deserves to be in the top tear! He saves Harry multiple times and keeps him safe.
@@Vicky-su9ex cant agree more
Agreed
I'm pretty sure Narcissa's hair was supposed to symbolize her connection to the Black family, as well as the Malfoy family, because the Blacks had black hair, and the Malfoys were blonde.
bro you just broke my mind
only the movie version though.
@@desh323 yeah
Blacks have black hair😂😂😂😂😂
As said by the SuperCarlinBrpthers in their video about Fudge. He's more concerned with having his job than doing his job.
yeah that's being selfish.
I’d actually say Fudge is at least VERY bad. In addition to all the slander on Harry and Dumbledore, he also corrupted the DADA subject by hiring Umbridge to teach there. That alone shows his complete disregard for civilians, because even if Voldemort wasn’t back, he knows there are still death eaters around (his sights were still on Sirius), so to keep the students from learning how to defend themselves is ridiculously selfish and idiotic.
He doesn’t even deserve pretty bad he deserves the incompetent trier
@@Lifegoeson232-f3tyep. Incompetent AND stupid.
@@Lifegoeson232-f3tmirrors 98% the other Prime miniters we’ve had
@@mikey24788 I’m American I have no idea about prime minister I’ll take your word for it
@@Lifegoeson232-f3tA prime minister is basically just a president except with a different title. It also depends on which country you're referring to. For example, the prime minister of Canada has a different role in the government than the prime minister of the UK.
I think, Cedric and Tonks both deserve to be in the top tier. If Cedric was there when Umbridge took over, he would definitely join Harry in teaching people DADA. He was so good he refused to accept a victory because Harry was attacked, even though Wood himself said it was fair. As for Tonks, she just never backed out , not even for a second, even when she was losing her powers because Lupin didn't love her, she still did everything she could and she forgave Lupin for abandoning her.
Yeah, but Cedric died so he didn't see all that. Ranking isn't about the future, but when they were alive. Lol. Tonks though? I'd rather she stayed home with her baby instead of fighting the war. That's why Lily is on top; she died protecting her baby. Tonks just abandoned her baby to be with Lupin. Just like Lupin abandoned Tonks and Teddy
@@tfahad2051I agree on Cedric, disagree on Tonks. Tonks fought to give her baby a better life. She knew she was needed out there as she was one of the strongest wizards fighting for Hogwarts. It took Bellatrix herself to take her out. And Tonks knew if she and Lupin died, her parents would be willing to raise the baby, as well as Harry would be there to be his godfather. Don’t undermine how heroic Tonks’s sacrifice was.
I agree with you
I agree. She fought for her child and other peoples' children's future.
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING, CEDRIC IS AMAZING. HE /DIED/ FIGHTING VOLDEMORT WHILE VOLDEMORT WAS TUTORING HARRY!
I know I’ve asked this a million times but I think it would be interesting if you made a video about what the hunger games characters boggarts would be and a video of what they would see in the mirror of Erised
@movieflame
Absolutly
U all r stupid he has a video like that
So true @movieflame
Brilliant idea. @movieflame please do this.
I have a couple ideas myself though.
Katniss’s Mirror of Erised: I think she would see herself living happily with Peeta, Prim and her mother in a new Panem that was a free and fair democracy. Possibly her father would be alive again and with them too, and maybe a Gale that never betrayed her.
Her boggart would be the dead bodies of Peeta, Prim, Gale and her mother.
Coriolanus Snow (BOSAS)
Mirror of Erised: Himself as president with everyone in the Snow family rich and in powerful positions alongside him.
Boggart: Everyone finding out that the Snow family wasn’t actually rich anymore, and them being shunned by society because of it, with him losing everything he worked so hard to gain.
Coriolanus Snow: (Original series)
Mirror of Erised: Him continuing to rule Panem unopposed, with Katniss dead and the rebellion viciously crushed.
Boggart: His regime falling and him being killed by Katniss.
Alma Coin: Her mirror of Erised would be herself as Panem’s president with Snow dead.
Her boggart would be losing the rebellion and being killed by Snow.
Petunia had a tragic backstory? From not getting to enroll in her favorite school or develop powers like her sister? Nah, I would not define that as tragic. Was it a bummer? Oh yeah - I would get really envious too if I found out my brother developed superpowers while I didn't, which made me unable to join my favorite school. But that's no justification for all that hate she had in her heart and all the abuse she either did herself or allowed to make happen..
Her life wasn't ruined, she didn't experience anything traumatic, nor was she harmed or abused. At most you could say she didn't get to win the lottery unlike her sister (kind of) - and I wouldn't exactly call not winning the lottery a tragic backstory. She's practically a Karen bitching about not having more privilege than 99% of the population (if we go by Rowling's ~3000 wizards in the UK compared to its regular population of ~50-60 million people) and taking those frustrations out on other innocent people.
And she wasn't just a bitch toward her sister whom she envied (and Snape), but even toward her baby nephew who was left parentless after his parents got murdered - _that's_ just next level pettiness.. There's no way she belongs in the grey area.
Thankfully I was never abused myself, but I think if you ask any person who had a parent/stepparent/foster parent who abused them, if they were handed a baby blanket later in life whether that would made them want to forgive them for all the abuse they endured growing up, I think you'd find virtually everyone give a resounding "no".
EDIT: I'm sorry if I put my criticism a little harshly. It's just parental abuse cannot simply be put as a morally grey thing (or be as easily forgiven).
And if I recall correctly, Lily even tried to be on good terms with her despite her sister's cruel behavior and lies, but Petunia just wouldn't have it (while also continually being cruel toward Snape). And then passing that hatred onto her sister's kid, I mean.. How can that not be at the minimum pretty/very bad.
exactly!
I agree completely. In many ways she is worse than Vernon because she never stopped his abuse.
I thought the same thing. Thank you for putting it so well
Same here
I agree. I don’t understand why he put so much emphasis on Petunia’s redemption, which was very slight and doesn’t make up for years of child abuse. Dumbledore at least redeemed himself by becoming the literal embodiment of goodness for the last 100 years of his life after making mistakes as a teenager, blinded by love with a traumatic childhood, yet he still received “morally grey”
I demand a reupload where Dobby has an entire tier to himself.
He's the most good character in the whole show.
He's too pure
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Yes Please 35:44 😊
Master has not given dobby his own teir 😢
Lockhart should be in the evil area You're two kind to the bad people and not enough to the ones that redeemed themselves Morgan
Lockhart erased so many witch and wizards memories just to take credit for their achievements, basically putting them in the psychiatric ward, and he was going to do that to children, just to keep the fascade.
I thought the same thing. Lockhart's evilness is clouded because of the horrendous shit death eaters does but I trying to leave two 12 yrs and one 11 yr old to die....no...thats extremely shitty!
@@alesonuDumbledore did 100x the good that Lockhart did, and didn’t do anything nearly as bad as what Lockhart did, yet ended up in the same morally grey area. That’s crazy to me.
@@SJ-di5zu Dumbledore was kinda grey. He manipulated a lot of people albeit for greater good but he did manipulate and use them. He delayed facing Grindelwald, one of the worst dark wizard of all time, because of his feelings for him. Which means he watched as Grindelwald kept tormenting people. So there are some morally grey thing he did. But Lockhart deserves very bad. Dumbledore at least tried to do the right thing and kept doing what is right, unlike Lockhart who would have let one 11 and two 12 year olds die just to save his own skin. Thats evil
I would've put Fudge in Despicable. He was stupid, but because of his stupidity and obsession with his image over doing the right thing, he slandered Harry and Dumbledore, allowed Umbridge to essentially torture children, didn't listen Harry in Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire about Sirius and Voldemort and of course, because of his obsession with his image, stepped aside and let Voldemort rise back to power. Plus, he let his own prejudices cloud his judgement, which is a big no no for someone in a position of power like being a Minister.
Not to mention he arrested Hagrid in Chamber of Secrets without any proof other than the lingering suspicion from last time the Chamber was opened, and that "the Ministry has to be seen doing something!" Again, the red flags of image over truth, and doing the right thing, goes all the way back to Chamber for Fudge. Those traits just tended to blow out of proportion as the situation of the world he was meant to be leading became more chaotic, and God forbid, threatened his image.
I think the character that you thought was Barebone is Mary Cattermole, the wife of Reggie, who worked as a maintenance in the Ministry of Magic.
It totally was Mary Cattermole
Yeah, I was like is the last going to also have characters from Fantastic Beasts?
I think Fleur, Hagrid, and Lee Jordan should be moved up a tier because Fleur was one of the seven potters, Hagrid did so much for the Order and the Trio, and Lee Jordan ran the radio station during the height of the war and kept the good guys in the loop with each other while putting himself in jeopardy.
Hagrid created the Blast Ended Skrewts that could've potentially killed his students. He also told Quirrell how to get past Fluffy. He was trusted by Albus to keep secrets, but he let the trio know a bit too much about the Philosopher's Stone. He showed Maxime the dragons before the First Task.
Can't argue about Fleur but Lee wasn't really at risk. Not like the world knew who was the person behind the voice. Fleur put herself at risk.
@@tfahad2051 but Hagrid accidentally said those things but still anything he accidentally did badly were made up with everything good he did
I think the woman you said was mrs barebone was actually the Muggleborn lady that was on trial during deathly hallows that the trio saved.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say 😅
Mary Elizabeth Cattermole
Yeah & Mrs barebone is from fantastic beasts 😆
I could agree with Dumbledore in the Grey Area, if much worse characters like Lockhart and Runcorn weren't in this category as well. Also, Dumbledore rising Harry "as a pig for slaughter" for me was always to harsh a statement. It was Voldemort who attacked Harry, marked him and gave him a part of his soul. Dumbledore was the one, who had to deal with this sh*tty situation.
Yeah he is good in my opinion
Objectively-speaking Percy didn’t betray the Weasleys. He turned his back on them but at the same time he didn’t actively work against them. And other than Molly, none of the Weasleys treated him well. Like, name me five moments where any of them were nice towards him. Not even Arthur is shown to be all that loving towards him.
Which is why the twins should be lower on the list, they actively bullied their brother while he did nothing to them to deserve that. On top of that the twins bullied other kids, injuring or deforming several, and also sold love potions in their joke shop. Like yikes.
@@Bionickpunk Love potions created Voldemort because their side effects gave Tom Riddle the inability to feel love. Harry was right to pity Voldemort. If there are unforgivable curses, love potions should be considered an unforgivable potion to use. It's literally mind rape.
Granted it has been a long time since I’ve read the first three books, recently reread the last 4, but the Weasley kids are pretty accurate depictions of siblings in that they’re total jerks to each other. It’s always in jest and they’re protective of each other when it matters, but Fred, George, Ron, and Ginny are always talking trash to each other and pulling pranks. It’s not their fault Percy couldn’t handle it.
Also all they talk about is how Percy was the favorite (along with Bill and Charlie) because of his grades and prefect status. In the last few books he DID turn his back on the family. He yelled at his dad and said his lack of ambition is what led to the Weasleys being poor, didn’t show up to any holidays except Christmas under Scrimgeour’s orders to get him close to Harry, he approved of everything Umbridge did at Hogwarts, and approved of Fudge at the Ministry. Percy turned his back on his family in the name of political gain and for a few books, he wasn’t that different from Umbridge.
Of course in the Battle of Hogwarts he redeemed himself by fighting for Hogwarts and apologizing to his family.
Macnair being in the same tier as Grindelwald is crazy. Grindelwald should at least be in the despicable tier, IMO.
Completely disagree about Dumbledore's placement. He can't be in the same tier as Lockhart, Petunia and most of all Snape. Yeah he did questionable things when he was young but he more than made up for it when he saved the world twice, the second time sacrificing himself! Plus he was incredible with his students and even more with his teachers. Snape was loyal to Dumbledore and protective with Harry but he only left the death eaters cause he was blinded by love and he was horrible with his students.
Exactly! Even Dumbledore’s death was technically a sacrifice to save Draco (and Snape to an extent due to the Unbreakable Vow). Dumbledore decided if he was gonna die, he would save a student no matter how bad a person Malfoy was. He also was the sole presence and rival to Voldemort that prevented him from taking over the Wizarding World in the 5th and 6th books, as we saw in the 7th book that Voldemort only makes his move once Dumbledore is dead.
@@SJ-di5zu Malfoy wasn't good or bad. He didn't have it in him to embody evil, but neither was he a good person. He was somewhere in between.
What about the fact that he's been using Harry? Think of the dialogue between Snape and Dumbledore.
"Snape: You've kept him alive so he can die at the proper moment? You've been raising him like a pig for slaughter?
Dumbledore: So now you've actually grown to care for the boy?"
Ok. Now you tell me if you still think Dumbledore is a good guy, because I sure don't believe he is.
Dumbledore should be in the hero one because he always did the right thing
@@alinamagda2547 what would you have done? He wasn't gonna protect Harry at the cost of so many other lives. He wasn't happy about it but he knew it was the only way to defeat Voldemort. Plus, Harry didn't end up dying. Or he came back to life. Still not sure about what happened there but I think it's implied it was thanks to Dumbledore.
the fact that crabbe and goyle was one single person was so funny to me probably because if you combined them you get one person's intelligence level
My dog is named Dobby and I was so pleased with your description of him. My dog weighs only 10 lbs and he thinks he could save me, eternally loyal but with a streak of mischief that often leaves trouble in its wake.
Dobby saved the entire wizarding world at Malfoy manor saving Harrys life, the Chosen One!!
Cedric should move up just because of his sacrifice and i believe he would have continued to support Harry always. Also Hagrid should move up one for all the things he did.
Fleur Delacour definely belongs in heroic
I think Professor Sprout should be in the heroic tier. She fought in the battle of hogwarts and she also unpetrified so many students after they had become petrified thanks to the basilisk.
I disagree, for me, Flitwick and Sprout are the two best teachers hogwarts ever had and should go in top tier. Btw, Neville had a very hard time in his first years and while Snape, McGonnagal and others pushed him down, Sprout was the only teacher he really bonded with, making him self secure in her class and exceeding excellent.
I know right
@@egiatchess4589that's your opinion but Lupin was the best teacher out of the 7 books. You seem to love Neville but forgot how much confidence he brought in Neville? Snape tried to make him look bad before the Boggart lesson but Lupin stood up and basically said he was going to have Neville start the lesson. Many students believe that Lupin was the best DADA teacher they ever had, and it's not reaching if I said he'd have been the best teacher in any class he was teaching. It's bold to say Flitwick and Sprout were the 2 best teachers the school ever had. Barty Crouch Jr was pretty great, teaching kids what it's like in the real world. He's the one that gave Harry practice to fight off the Imperius Curse a few times in class, which helped Harry fighting it against Voldemort. Harry even was able to distinguish Stan was under that Curse so the kids were told how to figure out who's under that Curse, which of course helps when Voldemort is back. He was the one that gave Harry an idea to become an Auror. McGonagall was great. She was a bit stern with everyone, not just Neville but it was for their own good. She encouraged Neville to take Charms when his grandmother said no. She took many curses to defend Hagrid, a fellow teacher, and ended up in St. Mungo's. She was fair with everyone. Snape is just cruel. Albus in his days as a Professor was probably great, since he was very learned.
actually she just provided the Madrakes, the current Potions Master brew the potion XD
@@tfahad2051true, the worst she did was roast Neville for not putting his headphones on right.
But if she gets points for the mandrakes, Snape does too for making the potion, and making the potions for Lupin. It was part of their jobs in service to the school.
I love how Lupin stood up for Neville, but he joined in/didn't stop his friends from being bullies. I mean, it's a little different with Snape since you can hardly call Snape innocent either as a kid, but they definitely ganged up on him.
I question his motives for wanting to join the trio in the last book, if it was for adventure or to help save the world, but he did try.
I am still mad at him for not sending Harry a card for his birthday in the 4th book 🙄 like sir you just bonded with who was basically your nephew for a whole year and you can't even wish him a Happy Birthday or anything?
Where would you rank Augusta Longbottom?
I’d say heroic, after she fought bravely against John Dawlish, who was about to kidnap her to play pressure on Neville. She then returned to fight alongside Neville in the battle of Hogwarts.
Personally I would only put her in good. She was criticizing Neville all the time, comparing him with his father
Frank and Alice should also be ranked heroic, maybe even god tier.
She was never the nicest to Neville, that probably puts her down a tier into “Good”
I think only Dobby & Hagrid deserve to be in God Level Of Good 🪄💚
Dont agree with Hagrid, he is pretty pro-slavery with House Elves, and he put children in danger with his blast ended screwts, along with Fluffy, and even Buckbeak, and especially Aragog. When it comes to safety of the students, he fails at it. As a teacher, he is bad at it, the woman that took his place did a way better job and did it safely.
@@Bionickpunkok but that isn’t done with malicious intent. Hagrid truly believes in these creatures and is blinded to the idea that they do bad things. He isn’t doing those things to be mean, he just has such a soft spot for the creatures that he forgets that their instincts don’t mesh well with humans. I think he should have been heroic
@@BionickpunkI wouldn't count Fluffy in that list, since his purpose was to keep people away, and Hagrid nor anyone else sent someone to him
Same here
@@occheermommyit doesn't matter what intent he had, he was blinded enough to ignore the harm those creatures can cause. He got whooped by his own brother many times and yet asked the trio to help Grawp. He sent the trio in the forest to clear his name. Uhm, what? Sure they didn't harm him, but Hagrid knows they were carnivorous. Sending 2 kids to their area, and they almost died. Oh, he invented Blast Ended Skrewts, a new species to which no one in the world is aware exists, so he doesn't know the danger, and yet he is putting his students in danger and overlooking the burns and bites they suffered, just so he can learn about them by risking his student's lives, having them feed the Skrewts so he could keep his precious invention. I'm sure he got injured by them and knew what that felt like, but nope, let the kids suffer along the way
Dumbledore should be nice. I know he was bad in his childhood but he deeply regretted what he did and I think he more than made up for it by forming both order of the phoenix’s not trying to capture power and be incredibly important in the fight against Voldemort. Good vid btw
Didn't regret it enough I'd say
FINALLY back to Harry Potter content 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Your videos are so great. What about making a video about every Christmas present that Harry ever got in the books from worst to best (probably from the box of maggots to the Invisibility cloak). It would be fitting, as Christmas is coming up soon.
@MovieFlame this is a great idea please do this!
Did anyone else notice that at 14:40 the top tier changed from ‘God Level of Good’ to ‘Pretty Much Omnibenevolent’??
Putting Molly and Arthur Weasley in the top tier was perfect. They're definitely the best mother and father in the entire series. I love both of them, though sometimes I feel like Molly was strict in a silly way.
Oh yeah, the best parents. Ron got the worst things, hand me downs. "Let's scream at our kids and treat other kids great." They won 700 Galleons and they spent it all in one trip to Egypt. Yup, "we know our kids don't dress the best and we've financially suffered for years, but let's have an extravagant vacation and not save up and buy a better house, abandoning their terrible looking home."
@@tfahad2051name better parents (other than lily)
@@tfahad2051To be fair, that trip to Egypt wasn't for shits and giggles. Their other son was there.
@@shreesayajha we didn't get to meet many parents before the Malfoys. But I'd say Longbottoms would've been great
@vastro921 Floo Powder is cheap. Very. Why not Floo yourself there? That'd cost less than a galleon so where did the other 699 galleons go? Arthur is good with Muggle stuff, or we think, but surely he could've traded in a few of those galleons and get the Muggle money. IDK, could've used that money to better the house and save up for kids education so they didn't need to buy second hand things.
Vernon bullied Harry, treated him as a slave, and as a prisoner, he should be in very bad
Albus broke off from Grindlewald when that fellow started showing those negative traits. That and the Quorra article explains in the answer if Albus was evil how would he go about this and that and it turns out they showed how he’d not be like Voldemort at all but also ended up showing how he wasn’t like him to the point where it basically lead to how impossible it was for him to be that evil since he wouldn’t stoop that low and essentially would be leading via love, inspiration etc. those articles might give you more ideas for videos to make in the future. There are tons of great stuff even within the comment section of many of their posts too which also have great information and stories too. ❤
False. He broke off with griddlewald because his sister died. Grindlewald already was showing his darker side. If Arianna had not been killed it is very very likely Dumbledore would be still with grindlewald
Can you post WHAT IF...? series explaining questions like,
1. What if Mrs Dursley became a witch and Lily remained a muggle?
2. What if Ariana Dumbledore continued to live.
3. What if Peter Pettigrew was not on the Marauders?
4. What if the Marauders' Map was not at all invented.
Lily Potter she definitely be on the same level as Molly Weasley
With Nagini, I think it's Voldamorts soul in her that's corrupted her completely
yeah the villains wiki says shes a villain by proxy meaning she didnt really choose to be evil and she was originally a human woman from what Ive heard
I’d put Dumbledore in Nice or even Good. His early days were troubling, yes, but he had a bad family life and bad influences. When he grew up, he fought unequivocally for good, he cared for everyone, was a champion for Muggle, elf, centaur, werewolf, and other’s rights, protected the school’s children with his life, and truly grew to care for Harry. As for raising Harry like a pig to slaughter, Dumbledore genuinely tried to give him the best life imaginable and worked tirelessly to give Harry a chance to live, and you have to realize that his plan was the ONLY way to kill Voldemort. He knew Harry would be willing to sacrifice himself to kill the man that killed his parents anyways.
Think about all the lives Dumbledore saved. If not for him, almost every good character on this list would be dead.
Also I’d put James in at least Good. His actions as a student weren’t great, but at the same time he was bullying Snape, who was a future Death Eater and a huge bully himself. Snape was prejudiced, created curses for fun, called Lily a Mudblood, etc. so why hold those actions against James when he was nothing short of heroic afterwards? He fought for the Order, married Lily, earned Dumbledore’s approval, sacrificed himself to protect Lily and Harry. Sirius and Lupin both said he matured a ton in his seventh year and onwards to Harry, for what it’s worth.
Kingsley dueled Voldemort and was the most respected Auror at the time of the series, and became minister after. I think he belongs in the very top tier. Tonks has a decent argument too, having fought Bellatrix three times and been in so many fights before she finally died in the end. Most of the Order were heroic for their actions, I’d even argue for Lupin up there.
And then to circle back, I don’t disagree with Snape in grey area, however him being in Dumbledore’s tier feels wrong. Snape was into the Dark Arts at 11 years old and was already strongly prejudiced DESPITE having a great Muggle-born influence as his best friend in Lily. Snape was the one who told Voldemort the prophecy, then pleaded to Voldemort and Dumbledore to kill Harry (a BABY) and James. Then Snape relentlessly bullied Harry even though he was the one who ordered the hit on his family, and bullied any non-Slytherin to the point where it became close to abuse at certain points (turning his back and Slytherin threatened to jinx Gryffindors for example). Compare Dumbledore’s actions during his redemption to Snape’s, and you’ll see they’re not the same.
Dumbledore was cartoonishly kind to everyone and extremely heroic, even facing off against Voldemort 1v1 and capturing 9 Death Eaters almost by himself in the Department of Mysteries. Dumbledore was practically a father figure to Harry and a symbol of hope to the school. Everyone looked up to him and cried at his funeral. Snape was never that. I feel Dumbledore should be in Good, while Snape should be in Grey Area. But if Dumbledore’s in Grey Area, Snape deserves Pretty Bad/Very Bad.
Dumbledore is at least heroic, considering what he has done for the entire Wizards community.
I was literally wondering "How could the guy put Dumbledore in this category when he's the only reason
the entire Magic World was saved from being ruled by 2 "Hitler" figures "(I guess Voldy should be worse😅)
You can argue he's not on the top of the list because of his connection with Grindelwald, but he never
actually, cross that line, he always stays on the "Good side". Also, I hate that "He raised Potter like a pig just to be slaughtered" argument, like what else should he do? "Hey Harry, eh, in order to eliminate Voldy, can you kindly
prepare to die when the time comes?" Imagine saying that to a kid straight to his face😂
In the end, it's the actions that define you, not what you think in the process. Dumbledore is the true hero
in the series, no matter how selfish he was before... Even if there are some stains in his teenage days, he
spent the rest of his life for redemption, and to me, that's pretty heroic.
@Leo-nc3yx The man litteraly gave him the resurrection stone instead of himself. He died so harry could die and be revived, and win. 😆
Sirius LAID DOWN HIS LIFE to help save Harry and his friends. That is heroic at the very least. Same for Cedric Diggory, while he didn’t intentionally sacrifice his life for Harry, he was just so good and moral no matter what situation he was in.
We love your unscripted videos, keep them coming!
Fred and George should be a tier or two down. They were borderline bullies, especially towards Ron and Percy. Their jokes were often times mean-spirited and cruel. They hospitalized Montague over house points and tricked Dudley into eating an untested joke product that could’ve caused him serious injuries. Their products are a bit questionable, like the Pygmy Puffs they’re milling and love potions.
About time someone understood
I wanted so hard to disagree but can't. I do agree they were heroic but I will put then as just good!
Montague and Dudley both deserved it. In the case of Dudley, they were sticking up for Harry because he was abused by him for so long, and in the case of Montague, the Slytherins were literally evil to the point where they sided with the Death Eaters, so they deserved everything they got.
As for Ron and Percy, all the twins did was make fun of them the way all of the siblings made fun of each other. They still stuck up for their family whenever it mattered.
I agree love potions are very questionable morally, but I guess the wizarding world doesn’t consider them an issue. Romilda Vane was openly trying to sneak them to Harry and got Ron with one.
@@SJ-di5zu 1. Dudley was a CHILD, was he a bully? Absolutely, but that does not give them the right to attempt to kill him. I would've been fine if all they did was punch him (giving him a taste of his own medicine) or give him some magical candy that turned his skin purple for a week, but no, they attempted murder. While there is a possibility that killing him wasn't what they were going for, they had no remorse for when they eventually found out. Same goes for Montague, first of all, you're assuming Montague is evil/a death eater because he's a Slytherin and while I understand the trepidation considering the circumstances, it doesn't give them a right to stuff him into a magical closet that leads him to the hospital (besides not all Slytherins are death eaters, case in point: the Greengrass family). Again, even if they're ignorant at first, they clearly don't care once they find out, they're both like "lol whoops" instead of worrying they almost killed a kid over house points. In both scenarios, the twins bad actions are not near the equivalent of the other's bad actions, the ends don't justify the means.
2. TBF I don't remember a lot of the twins and Percy's dynamic but I do remember that they were downright cruel to Percy. You can claim "siblings act like this all the time" but toxic behavior is still toxic even if it's not intended to be. The twins may not see their teasing as bullying but that doesn't mean it isn't. I don't deny that Fred and George both cared for Percy deeply, they both adore their family more than anything, but rather their ignorance strikes again and they don't find anything wrong with their cruel behavior.
3. I actually agree with you, it seems the twins grew up in a society where love potions are normalized therefore don't realize how terrible they are. I just wish there was someone who called out how fucked the potions are morally.
Fred and George can be heroic, they can be kind and they love super strongly for family and friends or even strangers. However, this does not stop them from being pieces of shit to people that they hate, believing their attempted murders and cruel behavior are "justifiable" because of bias.
@@DGSupremacy1. I don’t actually remember exactly what they did to Dudley, however their products were pretty well tested and I stand by the fact that Dudley deserved a prank or two. The Weasley brothers were only 2 years older than him too so he can’t pull the whole “he’s a child” argument. And Montague was pretty consistently a d*ck throughout the series and friends with Draco and his boys (sons of Death Eaters), and let’s be honest, all of the Slytherins were awful that we met during Harry’s time. There were almost no instances of a good Slytherin besides Slughorn who is like 70 years old. How many times did Slytherins put Harry in the hospital or cheer when he was put in the hospital? How many times did they cross the line? Even wish death upon him? Plus, Montague was working for Umbridge, so he has to be at least a bit evil.
2. Seems like neither of us can really pull great examples of Percy, Fred, and George, but I maintain that all of the Weasley siblings attacked each other equally except Bill and Charlie because they were older. Fred, George, Ron, and Ginny were ruthless with each other. Molly was especially ruthless towards Fred and George as well.
3. Yeah I mean the love potions were being used so frequently in the story, it’s quite shocking they weren’t considered on the same level as the Unforgivables. They’re basically r*pe potions. Romilda got off Scot-free for attempting to get Harry with it and successfully getting Ron? Crazy. But the twins were running a business, and it was a prank shop, so it’s hard to fault them too much for including it.
Maybe I could see the twins being bumped down to “Good.” I think that or Heroic is good for them; after all George sacrificed his ear and Fred his life fighting for Hogwarts and protecting Harry. And I believe all of the 7 Potters were heroes except Mundungus who was pretty much forced in by Moody.
Dolores sent the Dementors to Harry in an attempt to kill him. Not to mention the many wizards and witches she put in Azkaban without listening to them. She printed pamphlets to turn wizards against Muggles and half bloods, despite being half blood. The many people she tortured through Dementors for many, many months puts her in Evil area.
Love your videos, I feel like we see James potter from snapes point of view so we see him in a negative light, as much as he isn’t great, I think (somewhere) Sirius or Remus say that snape doesn’t hesitate to jinx James when he gets the chance but we just don’t see those times in snapes memories, feel like he gets a bad rep
No, and we have another proof he's a bully;
"James Potter and Sirius Black. Apprehended using an illegal hex upon Bertram Aubrey. Aubrey’s head twice normal size. Double detention."
It's when Harry was in detention with Severus (in OOTP if I recall) and we had to see the files of the punishment of some students. You all need to stop saying that just because it's the point of Severus, that James isn't actually that bad, because it's not true and we have more proof he is indeed bad. We also have no proof he grew up because I'm pretty sure Sirius said that "Severus was an exception" when Harry asked about him.
It doesn't mean James didn't grow up of course, we just don't have enough proof for it. It just means that James indeed was a bully when he was at Hogwarts. Hope it helped
Actually no. I am really tired of people always trying to justify James behaviour.
In OOTP, Remus said that Dumbledore literally made Remus prefect hoping he would keep a check on his two frds and he admitted that he didn't do a good job. Showing even Dumbledore was not in favor of his behaviour, plus the person who replied here also gave another ex.
Also James actually started the whole thing with his prejudice against Slytherin. He hated Snape just because he wanted to be in Slytherin.
Also, in the OOTP, in Snape's memory, Lily was the one who said to James ["I don't need you to make him apologize to me, you are just as bad as him"] and went on to point out that he bullied anyone who annoyed him. So no, James was also a bully and had flaws. It won't kill anyone to accept it!!
@@alesonuLily would never have dated him if he didn’t mature, that was one of the biggest reasons she resisted doing so for so long. He must have done in order to win her over.
@@alesonuDumbledore wanted them to quit breaking rules. They were class clowns. He said nothing of bullying. There is a difference between getting your friends to stop breaking rules to get your friends to stop bullying. Those words were never said.
Also you cannot discount that Snape would be an unreliable narrator. He hates James and will remember him with the hate he feels. No matter how just you try to be you don’t remember things accurately. And I doubt Snape was trying to be just. They both had their faults but please stop defending Snape and making him out to be innocent in this. Also we know Lilly would t have married James if he hadn’t matured. Remus even says that
@@dannylagangonzalez6832 I am saying that coz in OOTP, Sirius and Remus admitted that he continued bullying Snape behind Lily's back. And in front if Harry, no one would say anything bad about his father now, will they?
But yes he did fought against a tyrant, he did loved his frds and family and died protecting them. So, there is credit there
The thing about Snape and Petunia having harsh backstories is iffy to me because when you look at Harry and Neville who had extremely tragic backstories but didn't act like petty douchebags.
Despite Petunia's small redemption, which was made a lot more dramatic in the film, she still starved Harry and let her husband abuse her nephew.
Snape would probably have still been a death eater until he realized he mistakenly Voldemort after Lily and didn't care if Harry or James died. Snape was also still blood racist who just made an exception for Lily. To me they're both in the pretty bad tier because they've done more harm than good but I do understand them in Grey Area as well.
Yes they were both awful. And I don't think Petunia's redemption was any redemption at all.
But for Snape, most things I agree, but after he changed, he never went back to death eater even after Lily died! And the 1 year before Tom's fall, he became triple agent, his life was in constant danger. Compare that to keeping the blanket you found your sister's child in being willed to you! In that sense, I think Snape is correctly in grey. He was a miserable,awful and bitter man who bullied kids for fun but yes, he did some pretty heroic things too. So grey is perfect place for him
Sirius had an awful upbringing yet resisted it and became so anti-blood purity that people called him a bully for it! No excuses for Snivellus
@@SJ-di5zuyeah no excuses for what he did in his Pre-1981 days, he made his choices, I can see how his upbringing contributed to those choices, but he still made those choices. However after 1981, after Lily died it feels like he goes on a path, not of redemption, but atonement, he protected Harry, spied on Voldemort, Served Dumbledore loyally and in the end he died for the right cause. Of course being a vindictive bully(JK’s words) to his students is indefensible, so I think Grey is the right tier for him
@@kharanraj6546agree grey area is fine. I don’t think he’s bad at least not after lily was killed before then yeah probably would be in the bad tier.
Yeah, Snape was a terrorist by choice and he reveled in bullying children.
I fully believe that Vernon’s awful behavior towards Harry is because they’re not blood-related.
Petunia likely saw traits of her sister in Harry so try as she might she couldn't emotionally disconnect. Whereas Vernon never had an emotional connection to Harry ever. Dudley likely changed his attitude because of the talk Dumbledore had with him and his parents. His behavior was called out and he's told that he could've done better so he salvages what he can by leaving Harry on good terms.
very good perspective 👍🏾
Wow 🙄 that is so awful nobody should treat their family members like dirt for not sharing DNA I have good relationships with two of my uncles and they are only my uncles because they have been in a domestic partnership with my aunts for as long as I can remember plus my parents raised me to all of my relatives as family regardless of how they are related I mean heck when I was little I was close with my only step cousin (my uncle had a child from a previous relationship before meeting my aunt who as five months younger than me and they would go on to have three children together) and we only grew apart because we didn’t see each other a lot and we developed different personalities
Also would anyone call Child Protective Services if you knew the Dersleys in real life it’s honestly a miracle that Harry didn’t die, or have a similar effect as Genie Wilder or become a obscereal like Credence from the way they treated him since he was one Lily would be very disappointed with her sister
Hagrid belongs in heroic. The only thing keeping him out of top tier would be he can be a little reckless with underestimating dangerous animals
You should do a video series where you rank every wizarding world character from your most hated to your most liked.
Even in the movie where Cho is the one who tells about the DA, it's because she was given Veritaserum, so it wasn't really her fault.
These Tier Rankings you're doing are brilliant!
Unless I'm misremembering, Slughorn shows special treatment to students he sees particular (self-benefiting) potential in, he doesn't do so at the obvious expense of the students he deems mediocre. That to me is one of the most realistic portrayals of teachers - not the self serving part necessarily, but selectively using his connections for students and giving gifted ones extra favors.
yes, he also embodies the slytherin traits perfectly as he gets these students good jobs as long as he gets something in return
This was interesting to watch! You made some great points.
Cho is overhated, fr. I used to be angry at her for defending Marietta but I now I think she was just being a good friend and I can emphatize with Marietta too.
Based on my view of morality I'd put Lockhart, Snape, Draco, Petunia, Dudley, Narcissa, Cormac & Fred and George (because of some of their pranks) one tier lower. I'd also put Dobby and Hagrid one tier higher
The changes I'd make:
Lockheart - despicable. He erases people's entire identity for fame and fortune. He's on par with Umbridge. Just because he's goofy/funny can't distract from the fact that he's a monster.
Hagrid - heroic. He sees the best in everyone and everything, even if it's to his detriment. He's like the personification of a golden retriver.
Petunia - very bad. Harry is her flesh and blood, treating him like scum and allowing her partner to treat him like scum is even worse than Vernon. She's also just a straight-up terrible parent to Dudley, in that she's raising him to be a bully. The fact that Harry asks Vernon (another terrible bully) and not his aunt to sign his permission slip should show you how he feels about her.
Filch - very bad. There's not really any good in him, that we're shown. He's a spiteful, violent man. He literally wants to torture kids, need I say more?
Draco - grey area. The main reason I say that is that he's just a product of his environment. His father is Voldemort's right-hand man. As a child, he idolized his father and his father instilled these beliefs. When he grows up, he completely separates from his parents views against their will, and I think that shows who he ultimately became. Draco and Dudley are extremely similar, just products of terrible parenting.
James & Sirius - I think they belong in good, maybe even heroic. They were stupid kids, but we never really see what James was like after leaving school. Presumably he completely changed, and we know that he was willing to sacrifice his life (despite being fairly young in the books) for Lily & Harry. Sirius is still loyal to the order and while he might be a bit surly, he's just lonely and depressed. The Sirius we see surrounded by his family/friends are who he actually is. Both of them also put their lives on the line for the order, just like the people in the heroic tiers. Both also ultimately lost their lives in defence of that, I don't think being dumb at 15 offsets that.
Snape - pretty bad. His true self never really changes, he only switches sides over his weird obsession. He's still spending his days bullying children. If Voldemort had killed Harry and James and left Lily, he wouldn't have changed sides.
Mcnair - despicable. We never see anything good about him. He likes killing innocent people, and when he can't get away with that, he begins executing animals for fun instead. He has a need to kill, not for any grand cause. Grindelwald killed because he at least believed in what he was doing, even if it was misguided. I think most of the others in “very bad” have circumstances that can somewhat explain how they ended up in this scenario but this guy just has textbook Ted Bundy written all over him. Hell, even the manipulation he pulls off to get away with his crimes and work at the Ministry is very Bundy.
Great point about Snape that everyone overlooks: Dumbledore was DISGUSTED by Snape when he said he wanted Voldemort to kill Harry (a LITERAL BABY) and James if he’ll spare Lily. That’s despicable. He ordered the death of a baby to protect a woman he had a creepy crush on. Even with his “redemption,” we have to understand that had Lily not been killed, he probably wouldn’t be doing any of this, and that protecting Harry was the least he could do after he recited the prophecy to Voldemort and asked for Harry specifically to die. His actions were heroic, but only after multiple horrible actions, and his motives were very questionable.
Agreed on James and Sirius, particularly the latter. Sirius didn’t really do anything wrong; he bullied Snape at times and he hated the Dark Arts. But he was raised by the same household as Snape and Malfoy, yet turned out the opposite as them. Sirius resisted the indoctrination of his family, something that isn’t said enough. Is that not heroic?
These are the exact points I would like to make, especially regarding James Sirius or Snape. Thank you for your comment
I disagree about snape yes his abuse of children is despicable but it was at least partially to keep his cover and about filch he is kind of on the heroes' side so its hard to say how evil he is
Petunia protected harry letting live with her. If she didn't, he would've died... Pretty sure there was a protective charm while he lived there. She was bitch, but she obviously cared forr his life, therefore caring about him...
@SJ-di5zu @S.D.323 he said that no one can know that he will protect harry
he start in house where he was victim of his father, later he findout only light in his life: magic arts and Lilly, in school he was victiom of james, sirius... and they bullied other kids but the most they love to bully snape, sirius even almost kill snape and send lupin to askaban but James save theme all
he always want to study magic and he endup with badguys but he never was as evil as people see him, he never kill anyone even if he was most poverfull wizard from deatheater after voldemort and he could do this. in this part of life he do not care about some kid who will be killed by voldemort, for him if voldemort would want do something he would do this, for him it would be safer for lilly to by seperate from child, and he was right because voldemort killed Lilly.
what diffrents is if Snape do not want to safe some kid who never saw and Sirius whos could end life of 2 innocent kids? (lupin and Snape)
after lilly death he wants to avenge her death and protect Harry, so he even need to bully other grifinors students, for me it was easy to understand because even if he would take 100points from griffindor, dumbledore would give them 500 points
Snape allways could say f##k this i'm out, but he give his life to protect harry, dumbleore also give his life but he already was almost dead (curse)
only Harry and Snape know that they could live but give they lifes for others safe and do not even dodge death
what I would do differently:
Kingsley - *top tier*
Filch - *pretty bad*
Lockhart - *pretty bad* or *very bad* (how many people has he wiped the memories of?)
Petunia - *pretty bad* (her treatment of Harry just weighs too heavily to be justified by her tragic backstory)
Wow, this is one comment I 100% agree with!!
He put too much stock into tiny redemptions for the bad guys. Petunia was at best negligent as her husband abused Harry for years, at worst directly abusive to Harry as well. Crying over Lily’s death doesn’t change anything. Petunia was abusive and projected her jealousy for Lily onto an unaware little kid.
Guess Grindlewald was not “bad” enough to even attempt to do the complex rituals and such to create a horcrux. But if he did I’d imagine he’d easily keep Voldemort at bey too.
Awesome video!! I loved the entire series! My personal favorites we're Narcissa Malfoy, Minerva McGonagall, Hermione, Draco and Lucius Malfoy, Bellatrix, and Luna!
25:14 well she did send muggles or muggle borns to Azkaban for quite some time (a couple of months) so indirectly she did kill them. so I would consider to put her in the super evil tier. Also she used Veritaserum on students and tortured them as well hence Harry's 2nd scar on his hand. You could argue that she isn't that evil as Voldemort or Bellatrix, but she did some pretty messed up stuff too
anyway great video!!
Love all of your videos Morgan, there were a few characters in your tier list who I thought were misplaced ❤️ cant wait to see The Half Blood Prince easter egg video 😍
Sameee
People seem to overlook that James was part of the Order
So was Peter Pettigrew!
@@alesonu Well Peter was... peter
@@alesonuExcept James never betrayed or killed people like Wormtail!
@@paulyb7267 Did I say that? What I mean is being in order, does not automatically means he is a good person as people like Peter was there too. And we don't know what James did as order member but we do know, that he put his faith in a person which led to his and his wife's death!
technically that was sirius's "brilliant" idea, because he suspected lupin to be the spy@@alesonu
I can't wait for the Half-Blood Prince Easter egg video 😂!!
Lily should be in the top tier, she was a good person, she did nothing but love Petunia, defied Voldermort 3 times, and gave her life, AFTER being offered mercy, for her son. And no doubt if he she lived she would've continued to defy Voldermort.
Hagrid should also be AT LEAST be in the heroic if not the top tier, he was one of the most loyal characters, he went on multiple missions for Dumbledore that helped the good side, he was part of the 7 potters mission. He is just amazing
I have some other opinions but nice vid I liked the arguments for or against certain placements
I love when you make all these scripted videos that have an outline and stuff but its soooo much fun watching you let go and just be you cursing, etc. More vids like this pls
You should do a ranking video of your favorite Harry Potter soundtracks. There are a lot to pick from.
To me, what Umbridge did in OOTP puts her in despicable. What she did in DH puts her in the “Most Evil” tier. Taking absolute pleasure in the terror and suffering of complete innocents is IMO about as bad as anything Voldemort or even Greyback did. Yes I know there are theories that wearing the locket made her even worse, but nothing she did here is inconsistent about what we know about her.
This video really changed my view on many of the Harry Potter characters. I did this tier list with hou while watching this and it was really fun.
Omggggg thxxxxxx for this video ❤❤❤
Even for an unscripted quickie video, you keep coming up with fresh topics. Excellent work, Morgan ! 🧙🪄
If you put James in nice you do the same for Fred and George. Fred and George were just an echo of the marauders.
Even though Umbridge is the easiest person to hate, I do think she belongs in the super evil because she pretended to be part of a different family, she put innocent muggles in Azkaban, she bullied children, she left a scar on Harry, she made sure that students didn't know how to defend themselves, she hated the centers for no reason, she killed one of the Centers, and finally she tried to CURSE Harry. I hope everyone has a safe and wonderful Holiday!!
Kinda disagree with Tonks, Lupin, Dobby and Snape…
1) Tonks was the youngest auror ever, faught for the Order of the Phoenix multiple battles, won multiple battles and even returned to the battle of Hogwarts to fight for the good, even though she knew she had a newborn baby son at home and wasn‘t physically ready to duel and fight, because she had just given birth and a long pregnancy behind her. The fact that she dueled Bellatrix, one of the top fighters, and delivered a steong battle until Bellatrix got the upper hand, shows how brave, selfless and strong she was, doing everything she could to fight for the good.
2) Lupin had his flaws concerning Tonks‘s pregnancy, but he returned, supported her and their child during pregnancy with hard spells to protect them. He did bad stuff, but was a loving guy with a lack of confidence in the end. As his wife, he wasn‘t in the best condition during the Battle of Hogwarts, due to those spells, but he still faught and died for the good side.
3) As a house-elf it is not easy to turn against your „owner“. Dobby made his own decisions and decided which side he wanted to support. He risked his life multiple times to protect Harry and his friends, faught against the Malfoys and let his life ro protect Harry and his friends.
4) Snape bullied children when he was younger and also was mean ro young students without any reason, but that doesn‘t say that he is less heroic than others because of that. Snape was probably the key, without him, Voldemort prbably couldn‘t have defeated. He protected Harry every single day, but tried to seem like he was on Voldemort‘s side. He was, as Harry said, the bravest man Harry ever knew and that is way more than a grey zone in my opinion.
In general I would say that I could agree with Tonks‘s and Dobbys placememt, but not with Luna, Neville, Molly, Arthur and Ginny above them. But good video though!
Well Morgan, now that the Fantastic Beasts films are essentially dead in the water, I think you’ve got all the material you need for a life of Albus Dumbledore video. If’n you want to
And maybe a video talking about the tragedy of the Dumbledore family
Great list, agreed with practically everything. I was just wondering, would it be of your interest to make a similar list but to Hogwarts Legacy characters? I would love more Hogwarts Legacy content if you like the game lore too.
I’m so glad to see you!!!
I feel like James should be at least in heroic. He literally died fighting Voldemort without a wand in order to give Lily and Harry more time
I agree as he is seen to have matured in age
@@sarahimran434 Yeah, and to be honest, James bullied Snape because he did the dark arts and was friends with death eaters
@@emily79519agree, same goes for Sirius and Dumbledore I think
@@baul6843 yeah, I mean the qilllin bowed down to Dumbledore, so I think that at least makes him heroic too
@@emily79519Where did you get that? James hated Snape since the Hogwarts express without even knowing him only coz Snape said he wants to be in Slytherin, that too to Lily! James was the one who was prejudiced n immediately started passing snarky comments!
Also he did not bully Snape coz he practiced dark arts! He bullied him coz torturing him got him the attention of Lily! He literally bullied him for passing time. This is the lines from OOTP, from Snape's worst memory chap that Lily said to James:
“You think you’re funny,” she said coldly. “But you’re just an arrogant, bullying toerag, Potter. Leave him alone.”
“I will if you go out with me, Evans,” said James quickly. “Go on . . . Go out with me, and I’ll never lay a wand on old Snivelly again.”
Where do you find him torturing Snape in a gang for practicing dark arts?? Also he bullied anyone who annoyed him. In same chapter, Lily said this:
“I don’t want you to make him apologize,” Lily shouted, rounding
on James. “You’re as bad as he is. . . .”
“What?” yelped James. “I’d NEVER call you a - you-know-what!”
“Messing up your hair because you think it looks cool to look like
you’ve just got off your broomstick, showing off with that stupid
Snitch, walking down corridors and hexing anyone who annoys you
just because you can - I’m surprised your broomstick can get off the
ground with that fat head on it. You make me SICK.”
It is awful and disgusting when people try to Justify James's bullying!!
And even Narcissa, looked Voldy in the eye and lied about Harry's death! Knowing very well that Voldy is the best legilimen in the world and if she is caught, she'll be dead. So James doing it for his family is understandable!
Most people in this comment section should understand that this list is his opinion. This list is fine. Obviously you don't have to agree, but don't just act like his opinion is invalid or wrong just because YOU don't have the same opinion as him. Come on guys.
I am honestly and respectfully confused Dolores sentence innocent Magic folk to prison and some of those innocent people died because they were wrongly imprisoned.
I honestly think she should be on the lowest tier of your list what are your thoughts?
Agree. Also he calls Zabini racist, mean, and a bully and puts him in nice lmao. "Had he been in the room of requirements and used the killing curse I would have put him in grey area" Like tf man how would that be grey area
Like sheesh lemme just pull a gun on my class mate but I'm still an okay dude right?
Yes. The woman was a spiteful bigoted bitch to muggleborn and what she called half-breeds.
Yeah there are a few he was way lenient on. Lockhart too.
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8:30: The word you are looking for is calculating, or maybe even machiavellian, but not selfish. Dumbledore knew Voldemort would return and he carefully prepared to plot his downfall, using Harry and many others like chess pieces, some of them without them knowing that he used them or what role they actually played in his plan, which is a pretty nasty thing to do to someone who trusts you. But was he selfish? No, quite the polar opposite. He was still working "for the greater good" of the Wizarding World, putting his own life at stake on multiple occasions and ultimately sacrificing himself without having any personal favor to gain. Unlike Grindelwald, the older Dumbledore didn't hunger for personal power. He was a kind man at heart and despite the awful things he did, his affection for Harry in particular and for the students of Hogwarts was genuine. He certainly didn't like using and potentially sacrificing people he cared about for the good cause like this.
His scheming and secrecy even towards his allies does put his actions into the grey area, but they certainly weren't selfish. He did things he hated to do because he believed they had to be done. He is very hard to place on a scale of evil vs heroic, even if we only look at old Dumbledore, because of the very questionable ethics of his schemes on the one hand and many deeds that taken by themselves were very heroic on the other hand. You could argue anything from heroic to grey. But on a ranking of selfish vs selfless characters, he'd probably come in second place only after Dobby.
YES ANOTHER HARRY POTTER VIDEO!!!!!
I love how creatures like Fluffy and the Basilisk that have no concept of morals made the list
James is at least Good! The worst view we have of him is a memory from his childhood nemesis who was well on the way to becoming a death eater (if not already recruited) - we don't have evidence of him being a general bully and would Lily have been interested had this been the case?
Please read the book. You comment clearly shows you have no idea! It was not Just Snape's memory. Harry asked about it to Remus and Sirius and they CONFIRMED it!
@alesonu Thanks for the tip, of course I have read the book. The books do a better job than the films which hero worship Snape at the cost of James. Triggered Snape fan?
@@Laura-pk2fd Why does people always think that just because I am pointing out James's flaw, I am Snape fan? Why would I want to discount the fact that Snape was a death eater? Or that he bullied 11-17 year olds almost borderlining on child abuse. What I was trying to say is James is in the right tier considering the awful things he did in his school time just like Draco. He was an awful bully but changed and went on to be a better person.
oh shut up, James is heroic and so is Sirius @@alesonu
@@anonymous99923 Are you lacking brain or attention? Or do you like to quarrel that bad?? If you do not know then shut the fuck up!! If you think they are heroic, thats your business. Don't push your bloody thoughts down my throat!!
I would put each Dursley in the tier below. Vernon and Petunia were literally abusing Harry for 11 years of his life and Dudley used him as a puching bag.
Hwy now, Rita Skeeter didn't slander anyone, when it's in writing it's libel.
Also don’t forget Madam Pomfrey never asked too many questions so everyone would feel safe coming to her for help.
Like when Ron was bitten by Norberta or Hermione was stuck as a humanoid cat 🤣
The Basilisk gives off MAJOR evil vibes tho. Sure, it's an animal. But we literally hear it say it WANTS to murder and rip people apart. 😂
A little surprised and kinda bummed to see that Regulus Black didn’t make the list…
I think Dumbledore and Hagrid should be on the Top or Heroic you know why
awesome video!!!!!! my personal favourites are Remus Lupin and Nymphadora Tonks. do i think they should be ranked higher yeah both of them. #justiceforremadora.
Can we please have a video about the life of Sirius Black 🙏🙏🤞🥺
He already did!!😊
Are you talking about about the one about all the Marauders or the one that analyzes the relationship between him and Lupin because we only got bits and pieces of Sirius’s childhood plus there’s enough material to a video like the ones about Lupin and the one about James and Lily
Another amazing HP video you just made my day!!
I dunno, I think anyone who fought against Voldemort and the death eaters in the battle of Hogwarts is a hero.
Great video ❤
Lockhart is at the very least pretty bad. What he planned to do to Harry and Ron, he actually did to plenty of other people, and took credit for what they did. No grey area here, he’s just a jerk. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Kreacher bh some sort of binding law actually couldn’t deny an order from Narcissa since she’s also formally of the house of Black. ❤
Do the life story of avatar Aang please
Didn’t the anagie already do
Your office is sick and those posters oh myy
completely stunned by James and Sirius' position. of course bullying is unjustifiable, but putting them on nice is ignoring a large part of their growth and development. James sacrificed himself for his family, loved them unconditionally, and fought bravely for the Order. Sirius faced Azkaban, lost his dearest friends, and still had to deal with the distrust of everyone who believed he was capable of betraying. and when he finally escaped from azkaban, he immediately sought out harry, his godson, and the closest thing he had to a family. It's unbelievable to classify these two characters as nice just based on bullying. even worse when placed on the same level as characters like creature and zabini
Glad someone said it how are they on the same tier as Zabini who is openly racist
Also both sacrificed theselves for the people they cared about
@@bigwslyZabini was a bully who never got redemption; Sirius and James were bullying the bullies in high school AND got redemption. They deserve heroic tier. I do think MovieFlame has his biases that he tends to stick to; once he’s made a point that he doesn’t like a character for a certain reason, he will rank that character low any time he has a chance.
An example would be Lily, who is probably the most morally perfect person in the series, but he always brings up the same gripe about her: “in the fifth book pensieve memory, Lily kinda had a trace of a smile on her face when James pulled down Snape’s underpants, but then she quickly went back to being angry and telling him to stop, so that’s why I don’t really like her much.” It’s the smallest, most minute nitpick possible. A 15 year old almost smiled at someone’s pants being pulled down? How horrible! Not to mention Snape called her a Mudblood like 2 minutes after that so I imagine he wasn’t the most pleasant individual to her at the time.
I noticed in his other videos too that he doesn't like Sirius and James. He thinks less of them than they deserve.
34:17 "I resent that! Slander is spoken, in print, it's libel"
-J. Jonah Jameson 2002
If I did this tier list, I would have put Snape in the grey area. I know that there are a lot of fans of this series that sympathize with Snape, but Snape was a still a bad person. He became friends with other Slytherins who wanted to become death eaters, called Lily, the love of his life and his only true friend, a Mudblood, the worst thing you can call someone who is muggle born, joined Voldemort and became one of his most loyal death eaters, probably killed a lot of people fighting for Dumbledore and so many other things. Personally, I would have to say that one of the worst things he absolutely did was when he told Voldemort about the prophecy which then lead to Lily and James being murdered. On top of that, he didn’t even care if James and Harry were killed as long as Lily was spared. Even Dumbledore himself called Snape out on his behavior to the point that he said Snape disgusted him. And only when he found out that Harry was Lily’s son did he change sides and become a double agent. But even when Snape turned to the good side, he was still not a good guy. He was a grown man who was relentlessly bullying other students who weren’t in Slytherin, particularly Neville to the point that he was the main thing that Neville was more afraid of, he unfairly punished students who weren’t in Slytherin and he constantly went out of his way to make sure that Harry, Hermione and Ron were miserable such as when he said “I see no difference” right in Hermione’s face after her front teeth grew insanely large. However, I’m not going say he belongs in the pretty bad tier because we all find out that in the end he was protecting Harry from Voldemort and he was a very brave man. Still, that does not excuse the way he treated students during his time as the Potions master and head of Slytherin house.
One argument you can make is that he was only treating Harry and the Gryffindors so badly was that he could look good to Voldemort if he ever used leglimancy on him.
But I imagine that he also wanted to bully Harry specifically because he was the spitting image of James. In his mind, keeping him alive (for Lily) but ensuring he was miserable (for James) was an ideal compromise.
There is inference that Snape killed many as a death eater. When him and Dumbledore are arguing over him killing Dumbledore in his memory he asks about his soul and Dumbledore basically said you have killed but he said now he has only let those die that he couldn’t save like Charity Babbage I’m guessing. It feels to me like Snape was a murderer for the death eaters even though they don’t spell it iyt
But I agree on everything else
@@occheermommyDo you have the habit of misinterpreting things? In the memory when Snape asked about his Soul, this is the quote:
*******
“That boy’s soul is not yet so damaged,” said Dumbledore. “I
would not have it ripped apart on my account.”
“And my soul, Dumbledore? Mine?”
“You alone know whether it will harm your soul to help an
old man avoid pain and humiliation,” said Dumbledore. *********"
Which means his soul was still unharmed! How do you read this as Snape killing people, or more like you want it to be like that!!
Broh Snape was an awful, miserable, bitter old bully, and it is perfectly reasonable to dislike him, but dislike him for the right reasons not the reasons you invented!
@@alesonu because right after that he asks about people and Snape said lately only those he can’t save. Implying in the past things were different. So even if he didn’t kill himself he was complacent
I think Ginny and Lily should swap places. Lily died protecting her son and fought in the Order.