A Huge Publisher Played My Game And.... (Devlog)

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  • @thomasbrush
    @thomasbrush  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for watching! Hope you learned a ton.
    ► This video was inspired by @darenn-keller go watch the video and subscribe! th-cam.com/video/-3q0rLvtdX8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lClGP1WWU5lh_gOL
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  • @darenn-keller
    @darenn-keller หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    Hey Thomas! Thank you for the shout out, I really appreciate it. You're right, for both of us it was a great learning experience and I don't regret it one bit! Thanks for sharing your own journey with Devolver, it's very interesting to see how it's been for you. Would be great to get in touch and discuss gamedev someday. See you! 😊

    • @thomasbrush
      @thomasbrush  หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Sure thing! Thanks so much for telling your story and inspiring me to do that same :)

    • @isaacashton5772
      @isaacashton5772 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@thomasbrushfrom a new developer who was inspired by BOTH of you, thank you for what you do!

    • @darenn-keller
      @darenn-keller หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaacashton5772 Aw thank you! 😘

  • @sontrajamfemininegaze145
    @sontrajamfemininegaze145 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    What the heck. KEEP IT IN SCOTLAND. Scottish dogs versus English cats is something millions of Scottish, Welsh and Irish people would love to see. 😂

    • @KouzyFox
      @KouzyFox หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      RIGHT!!!! I WAS LITERALLY SCREAMING THIS...and tbh it could be more Scottish 😅 let us build clans!!! And fight!!!!

    • @NadjibBait
      @NadjibBait หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KouzyFox + blue face paint and kilts!

    • @imraanakollo-arenz1449
      @imraanakollo-arenz1449 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If there's one thing I must never underestimate, it's the beef the Irish and Scots have with the English😂

    • @PeterHyder
      @PeterHyder หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@NadjibBait No thanks, that shit is cringe and not Scottish (Well, the kilts obviously are but no one wore them till people were using muskets...).
      There are also Scottish dog breeds such as the 'Scottish Terrier' (known as a 'Scotty') who are criminally underrepresented because they are the goodest boys.

    • @owdoogames
      @owdoogames หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As an Englishman I too would love this, and I would side with the Scottish, Welsh and Irish braveboys to kick out the Tories… even if I’m more of a cat person.

  • @unityalexdev
    @unityalexdev หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    what a killer video ! story is insane, personal experience, editing, sound design...everything dancing together so well, man that's a masterpiece. Good job!

  • @Ironroc
    @Ironroc หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Absolutely loved this style of video. It's cool to hear about what going through these steps is like. Also looking forward to seeing what braveboy becomes!

  • @JJSmalls
    @JJSmalls หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The executives not getting the Braveheart reference... there's no point in shifting the theme entirely because of that. You would have been chasing a moving target at that point.

  • @hamzahgamedev
    @hamzahgamedev หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    wow, I am in the process of pitching my own game to various publishers and this video's timing couldn't be more perfect. 💌

    • @cuddlecakes7153
      @cuddlecakes7153 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      good luck

    • @hamzahgamedev
      @hamzahgamedev หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cuddlecakes7153 tysm 👏

  • @jamesbowling5928
    @jamesbowling5928 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ever since the first little demo you posted about this cute dog game way back when it was just a brain-break from working on Father, I have loved it and hoped there would be more of it. Thomas, this game looks beautiful and I love the name/theme/music/idea/barrels etc. I know you'll probably have to change it a bit to make a publisher happy eventually, but I personally hope you find one that sees the value in it as it is.

  • @grinningtiki220
    @grinningtiki220 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Critic on Braveboy: The dogs get lost in the grass. Maybe have patches and you can cut them with the spin attack?

    • @PeterHyder
      @PeterHyder หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Speaking as a Scottish dog owner who has seen their dog disappear into long grass - dogs tend to start hopping/jumping in this environment which is adorable and hilarious every time you see it. I suspect it would look equally adorable in a game.

  • @shawns4354
    @shawns4354 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My wife, kid and myself are still waiting for Braveboy to come home! Good luck and thanks for the insight!

  • @ghabrielF
    @ghabrielF หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Really cool to see how things work behind the scenes. Great content!

  • @Gathrey
    @Gathrey หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just because someone doesnt get or understand your game, doesnt mean thousands of others wont get it. Sometimes you just gotta trust your own understanding and research XD loved the video and the great insight you shared!

    • @TheArtkaw
      @TheArtkaw หลายเดือนก่อน

      It looks like an “okay” game but hard to see it under the Devolver umbrella. I mean, in all honesty it looks like a mobile game.

  • @DesignedByTaz
    @DesignedByTaz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love hearing these stories. Thanks for sharing Thomas!

  • @LucidVisions
    @LucidVisions หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s so great that you are highlighting your disappointments. So much of your content is about the positives and the you can do it mentality which is great but your response to the disappointment is the most inspiring thing and the willingness to share this. Great edit too!

  • @AndrzejGieraltCreative
    @AndrzejGieraltCreative หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Crazy stuff Thomas, good on you for sticking to your vision.

  • @jaymarksman
    @jaymarksman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    09:27
    I don't think open world and old school platforming are mutually exclusive, as open world isn't really a genre, just a setting/framework. A Short Hike comes to mind, which kind of feels like the best of both worlds to me.
    Thanks for sharing, this was a great video!

  • @Shallsoar
    @Shallsoar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's like: pitch to pitch to pitch to... Self publish. But this is a great video, and this passion is what we all need!

  • @ImSim_Cook
    @ImSim_Cook หลายเดือนก่อน

    Immensely helpful video for an aspiring dev! Especially anything to de-mystify publisher-interaction 😅
    Also (and you obviously didn’t ask for this but figured I’d throw it out) it is by no means uncommon to have a sort of macro type of traversal in an open world game, which gets you from isolated areas to isolated areas. Almost thinking the whirlwind from Elden Ring, which works on the x axis rather than the y, as in the case of your donkey Kong barrel mechanic. I also really like the barrels, and what might be perceived as a mechanical dissonance could probably be righted by grounding it more in the world. Say they are hanging from ropes which are constantly raveling and unraveling or something like that.

  • @smallbag123
    @smallbag123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are so good! Thanks for constantly uploading videos for us :)

  • @FromTheAtticTV
    @FromTheAtticTV หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The comment about Scottland being cringy or tropey is baffling to me. Also, what's not to get about "Braveboy"? It's a dog... that also happens to be a knight... He's a BRAVE...BOY! You know, also like what everyone says to their dogs! Tbh, I feel like, even in other fields, when people struggle to picture what the final product could look like, they want to change everything. Happens to me all the time with films lol. What's weird is that these people work for Devolver, so "picturing what the final product could look like" is definitely something they do all the time. Only thing I agree is the barrel thing; I feel like you could come up with other means of traversal that are more related to dogs. It does feel like something extracted straight from DK. But I truly think what Braveboy needs, overall, is just a year or two of polish, iteration, etc.

  • @ghostpeppered4524
    @ghostpeppered4524 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pretty funny if you think of it. They kept asking you to make changes for free without funding. What are they thinking, once the game is finished--then you'll need their money? For what? For the privilege of sharing your profits?

  • @roundtabledetails3307
    @roundtabledetails3307 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Well it's looks like you haven't figured out what the core of the game is yet

  • @Skeffles
    @Skeffles หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great to hear your experience with devolver. Sometimes they've held up in the indie world but knowing how that might go will help so many devs.

  • @SubzeroBlack68
    @SubzeroBlack68 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Honestly the first time I saw your game I thought of "Spyro with map zones connected with Platform mechanics". I don't know if thats the vision you are aiming for but I think you have a hit with this game as long as you stick to your vision.

  • @The6thRonin
    @The6thRonin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome story and lessons. Thank you

  • @jaulloa21
    @jaulloa21 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A huge publisher played my game and..they practically took a shit on it

  • @SpeedOfDarkStudios
    @SpeedOfDarkStudios หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video was a good class in dramatic and entertaining storytelling.

  • @BodyCodeGames
    @BodyCodeGames หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I could afford your game dev course. Maybe one day I will be able too, I want to learn everything in this industry so bad. Love your videos so much!

  • @Yoshi889
    @Yoshi889 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well, there are Devolver titles that actually did not sell that well, so working with them does not guarantee success, and they surely don’t 100% know what sells. (Nobody can know for sure)

  • @relevancy1123
    @relevancy1123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:45 no it's not. In anything arts, entertainment or distribution one of the first key things all of the industry professionals WILL say is find/build a network.
    And finding/building a network doesnt necessarily mean going to people and asking or begging for their resources but more putting yourself in position to know PERSONALLY, someone that is in the business of what you do.
    Whether they be large and already acclaimed or upcoming, or even at the same level as you at the very bottom. You never know who the people you meet MAY become so stay sociable, stay in communication and stay ready with your ears and ideas open. There may be a day your most insignificant relationship becomes the one that changes your life.

  • @KrazyRobot
    @KrazyRobot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    take it easy with the stock footage king

  • @CCowleyMedia
    @CCowleyMedia หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOu all went to Germany and pitched your underdog game in person. Great job, that can be so stressful.

  • @motioncache
    @motioncache หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm certain you will work with Devolver in the future. This will be a nice stepping stone to allow that for next time. Inspiring as always, Thomas. Thank you.

  • @aztecagames
    @aztecagames หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep going Thomas! You're kicking ass!

  • @FirstAttempt_01
    @FirstAttempt_01 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This comment may not find you and thats totally chill, we share the same first name. Ive been watching you for years man and the quality and feel of your channel has improved so much! Your energy is higher. I clearly enjoyed the channel from its early days but I like to point out its just been getting better and better man!

  • @SuPeRNinJaRed
    @SuPeRNinJaRed หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dang, Thomas this is your best idea yet!! (If you don’t mind me saying!)

  • @CrowleyBlack2
    @CrowleyBlack2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do they mean the Scottish theme is cringey or tropey? I actually like this idea.
    Although, they do have a good point to remove the barrels.
    Would be cool and funny to replace it with a catapult for the dog be flying.
    Would also be cool to see other players play as Scottish dogs or English cats.
    But that is more of a live service game. Good for open world though.

  • @chaosordeal294
    @chaosordeal294 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am trying to put this as nicely as possible -- I think you are being extremely generous, and not at all objective, in your assessment of this game prototype.

  • @DeputyChiefWhip
    @DeputyChiefWhip หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheLotroNerd
    @TheLotroNerd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your art is awesome! and nothing is perfect or finished. Some people just project their opinions but may or may not be totally right.. Ask is it objective like the volume example.. Or is it subjective example an opinion on the feelings the game creates or the story or the gameplay. Objective is totally fixable, normally. Subjective gets more difficult to discern. The target customer market is who ever enjoys it. Find the early adopters like in a startup cycle. Ask What do they like and interact with them! then start thinking about middle to late adopters! In most cases a publisher is thinking about their personal experiences which may or may not be totally right. As they are just trying to optimize and mitigate a good business transaction!

  • @cuca_dev
    @cuca_dev หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey, cool video! I'm not a big fan of "retention editing" aka every 2~7 seconds having a motion/cut, but on this one specifically the sound effects seemed pretty loud, annoying me while watching the video. Maybe it's a me issue, but bothered a bit. Other than that, pretty nice content!

    • @gameworkerty
      @gameworkerty หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes this one was particularly bad as if trying to hold the attention of a baby or a farm animal

    • @pacifico4999
      @pacifico4999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "retention editing" is an accurate description, I'll start using that term

    • @thomasbrush
      @thomasbrush  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gameworkerty My target audience is farm animals so we're good

  • @silchasruin4487
    @silchasruin4487 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a game that I want to pitch and work on more, I'm still busy with the demo and pitch deck. The main reason I want to work with a publisher is to bring funding to improve graphics, sound, music, voice acting and take it to a place i can only dream of at the moment. It's surprising that Devolver was still hesitant even when Braveboy is halfway there. I can only hope there's publisher's or people who are interested

  • @KouzyFox
    @KouzyFox หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I LOVE THIS GAME❤ I WANT THIS GAME!!! I HOPE YOU KEEP THE THEME! *If anything it could be more Scottish where we can build clans and go to war!!! 🎉

  • @Deadforge
    @Deadforge หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sounds so much like Vigil games pitching Darksiders.

  • @MonhooGameDevlogs
    @MonhooGameDevlogs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, That's amazing game 🎉 I kearned lot from this video

  • @GoodBloodGames
    @GoodBloodGames หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe in Braveboy

  • @FreddieM213
    @FreddieM213 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @thomasbrush Question, do you tell them that you are not going to continue to make changes because of time and budget? 11:32 how would you respond to that?

  • @OnlyRealCloud
    @OnlyRealCloud หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God bless 🙌 🙏
    See you at the top

  • @virtual_graphics
    @virtual_graphics หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good video. I noticed that your publisher 3D Realms is part of the Embracer group. Aren't you worried that the ongoing cuts are gonna affect your publisher and possibly your project? Just speculating... most likely everything is gonna be fine...

  • @fishbits7628
    @fishbits7628 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So when can we play your games!!

  • @cesarsfalcao
    @cesarsfalcao หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing

  • @matthewsmith4399
    @matthewsmith4399 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surprised twisted tower didnt do it for them. Seems like a devolver game.

  • @belkacemF
    @belkacemF หลายเดือนก่อน

    you see i love the game and so on but can you just make a setting where you can change the light in the grass ,,its just hurt my eyes specially people like me with thick eyeglasses,,,so just for the notice it would be really nice a graphical setting to tickle things up and down

  • @danielzareil2079
    @danielzareil2079 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they pay for your flight ticket? cause that sounds like it was really disappointing

  • @Drakmour666
    @Drakmour666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If it would happen to me, it would be "We would like to meet you face to face, come to us to Germany." And I will say "Mmm, sorry but I have no international passport, no Schengen visa and no money for a flight." 😀

  • @joel6376
    @joel6376 หลายเดือนก่อน

    >is this an openworld game or a platformer
    Well devolver did ask for this. Sounds like they have the large corporation problem where one head doesn't speak to the other.

  • @Worldfire_Interactive
    @Worldfire_Interactive หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It seems like they are all happy to waste your time more than give honest feedback. It might hurt to hear that my game sucks but I’d rather that than keep hearing “what if you did this, what if you did that?” for an eternity. At least if I know what sucks I can improve it, but if I’m following a carrot on a string I’m going nowhere.
    Also pretty funny that a company that got its legs with hotline Miami and its recent success from a Satan worship simulator for kids draws the line at Scottish dog. What a world 😂

  • @Drakmour666
    @Drakmour666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So why you decided to try Devolver if you already have a good relations with the 3D Realms? And you had (idk if you did) other ones before?

  • @adex618
    @adex618 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are many people from India who want to learn game dev but the price for your program is kind of too steep for us. It's like four or five months worth of salary. I hope in future you can launch a program considering Indians too.

  • @ZimMabu_GameDev.
    @ZimMabu_GameDev. หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @ColeKennedy-ee8px
    @ColeKennedy-ee8px หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is game dev hero good for a mobile game?

  • @manancialgd.
    @manancialgd. หลายเดือนก่อน

    KKKKKKKKKKK "Devolver" in Brasil is a meme word. Cuz "Revolver" is a name of a pistol, ende "Devolver" is the verb for "return". so "DEVOLVER" is a "REVOLVER" That "returns" XDD

  • @manancialgd.
    @manancialgd. หลายเดือนก่อน

    KKKKKKKKKKK DEVOLVER é foda, mano

  • @blackestbill7454
    @blackestbill7454 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ggs

  • @hogandromgool2062
    @hogandromgool2062 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm sure Asmongold's team would look into it if you haven't already asked.

  • @joyfulfishman5445
    @joyfulfishman5445 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I NEED BRAVEBOY

  • @jayarmstrong1
    @jayarmstrong1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:54 your welcome

  • @alenag.9639
    @alenag.9639 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Thomas- I’m an aspiring game artist that wants the development help from a AAA studio. Is that possible without selling my IP?

  • @Simon-ik1kb
    @Simon-ik1kb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I understand that you may be hesitant to speak negatively about this publisher, considering their prominence. However, the experience you described sounds truly unpleasant. Particularly, the requests such as removing the Scottish theme or other gameplay elements seem akin to demanding a complete overhaul rather than constructive feedback. From what you've shared, this game appears more promising to me than Twisted Tower. I love the name of the game and the whole vibe. If those two execs weren't able to understand its potential, well, that's just sad. It seems like this publisher embodies yet another corporate environment.

    • @SwedishSubhuman
      @SwedishSubhuman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well the scottish theme is stupid and the gameplay loop seems lacking.
      Thomas himself admits he is not even focusing on the game .
      Devolver picks games where the devs are passionate and 100% focused on the game and putting in full effort. Thomas was clearly not willing.

  • @rootbindev
    @rootbindev หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am watching this video

  • @andrewpullins8817
    @andrewpullins8817 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is up with your content and making me cry 😢

  • @jaulloa21
    @jaulloa21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just sell that ip to devolver

  • @AkiRa22084
    @AkiRa22084 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why dogs? Why anglosaxons? So oversaturated.

  • @jk_lol9266
    @jk_lol9266 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    twisted tower looks awesome, but the dog game falls flat to me. What's the hook? DK 64 with dogs? DK64 wasn't very good.

  • @hyperexorcist1129
    @hyperexorcist1129 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t vape it’s bad for you

  • @albumin30days90
    @albumin30days90 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    your mistake was to try and make it open world.
    make the game more for yourself and not for EVERYONE.

  • @ghostpeppered4524
    @ghostpeppered4524 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also realize the knife cuts two ways: You may be taking their bullshit feedback, they are also taking your bullshit ideas and sprinkling them to other devs--where do you think their ideas come from?

  • @successanimation
    @successanimation หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you hear "modern audiences" you know you're going to get bad, and sometimes even woke, advice/feedback.

  • @wfam9609
    @wfam9609 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think this game will work.There are too many similiar games.