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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2018
- When it comes to "Beat Juggling", lineage matters and plagiarism is wrong.
I recently came across a video on social media featuring a young up and coming DJ who straight bit a routine from an OG battle DJ. Not cool! The video was accompanied with just about every hashtag a DJ would include in his or her post but failed to credit the original author of the routine that was copied. Not cool! I personally have been on the receiving end of plagiarizers with regards to my own work as a DJ on multiple occasions. Not cool! Although the OG battle DJ referenced above may not even know his creativity has been stolen (not cool!), I felt compelled to whip up this latest post in hopes to discourage DJs from ever doin' something as disingenuous as copying another DJs routine (down to the songs the authors use) and allowing to be publicly praised or applauded for being competent at something they're obviously not competent at.
While I'm at it, I'd like to also note the following. "Beat Juggling" is no longer a secret. Thanks to teachers of this style of DJing, the mysticism behind "Beat Juggling" no longer exists. However, teaching someone any of the foundational "Beat Juggle" patterns or #rootmovements as I call them, without properly knowing the history behind who invented whatever move(s) being instructed is egregious in my opinion. "Beat Juggling" is a complex art that traces back 4 decades and capitalizing on a style with such rich history without bothering to educate yourself about the people who laid the groundwork for what you're getting paid to teach others is not cool!
And so, whether you're a biter or a "teacher" of this art but know not the true science and scientist behind "Beat Juggling", I took the time to list for YOU what I personally deem the #rootmovements of "Beat Juggling".
The Genealogy of "Beat Juggling"
1. "Backspin" - Grand Master Flash
2. "Breakdown Pattern" - Lightening Rich
3. "Backspin" with 1/8 & 1/16 fill combos - Cash Money
4. "Backspin" with 1/8 & 1/16 note linear fills (Copy Cat) - Cut Master Swift
5. "Offset Backspin" - DJ Aladdin
6. "Backspin" with 1/16 note triplet fllls - Steve Dee
7. "Snare Pattern" - Steve Dee
8. "Rock The Bells Pattern" - Steve Dee
9. "Straight Swing Pattern" - Rob Swift
10. "Inverted Swing Pattern" - Rob Swift
11. "Broken Swing Pattern" - Rob Swift
12. "Chase Pattern" (Strobing) - Shortkut
13. "Chase Pattern" with 1/8 note fill combo - Shortkut
14. "Rolling Fills" - Total Eclipse
#brolicarmy #turntabletuesday #biting #plagiarism
Excellent presentation of the beat juggling genealogy Rob, and it's so unfortunate, that many DJs don't credit the creators from each of the styles. And just like everything in life, nothing should be bitten, it's one thing to be influenced but, it's another thing to just straight copy, without adding their own styles to whatever it is, that they're doing. Even Bruce Lee said it himself, back in the 60's, and his quote mentions that " Always be yourself, express yourself, do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it". So in layman's terms, "DON'T BITE"!
this video serves 2 purposes. First to make sure up and comers aren't forgetting to cite their sources, Second as something to pick apart from one spot all the root movements that have kind of been spread throughout his channel but never in one spot. Thanks again Rob.
nice to watch those vintage video's. That inverted swing pattern blows my damn mind.
The beat juggle scenes are classic on here. The only beat juggles and routines I could never touch is the late Roc Raida. I'll have to lose at least 30 pounds to do the ninja move...lol. Salute brother.
Cutmaster Swift.... One of the nicest people in the world.
always teaching me someting. still gonna post mix/videos on social media cause i love this hip hop shit and wanna expand... but not without dropping knowledge about it as well!! only getting better with this and the art , thank you always for being a dope OG
Amazing video. Thank you very much for the history. Please keep posting Rob it means a lot to us. Thank you
Shout out OG Rob Swift, many thanks for the knowledge you drop...... I see that notification i know im bout to learn something about the culture. Salute.
WORD!!!!
Beautiful! Great to see this lesson! Would love to see P Trix, Develop, Static (uk), Mista B, and Roli Rho for the late 90s too.
My Genealogy of “Beat Juggling” list is a comprehensive documentation of “beat jugglers” who created/contributed the ROOT (core) movements within “Beat Juggling”. In other words, these are the moves P Trix, Develop, Static (uk), Mista B, and Roli Rho had to learn in order to get to the level they're at. I get and respect your feel they're all noteworthy but please don’t confuse contemporary “beat juggling” with the nuts and bolts of the style.
@@djrobswift Right on Rob. I respect the architects. In no way do I want to confuse the two, the video and foundational techniques just made me think of those cats. On another note, would love to see a full Xmen doc. Keep up the good work homie. Respect from the Bay!
m.th-cam.com/video/9-q8pGWdNEE/w-d-xo.html That’s the closest you’ll get to an X-Men / X-Ecutioners documentary. Peace.
biters must give credit to the og djs for their routines. i think they might need to practice cuz of the biters aren't mastering the beat juggling basics but they aint. good video.
Much respect Rob Swift. Since I've gotten back into the music you have been very inspirational.👍🏽
Respect back!
Respectfully, growing up as a rural white kid I've always loved the sounds of turntablism. But without a sense of the true people or culture driving it I always felt it was wrong to try to use it as a piece of my musical voice. The work you do to preserve and document the history of this art is so important. Thank you.
Respect.
At first glance, we got nothing wrong here, just some virtue signaling to may be earn a yt like or two...
But damn dude, if one thinks about it...
Thats one fucking racist statement! 😠🤮
What has the color of your skin to do with what kind of vehicle you use for expressing yourself musically? Should asians not choose to play the classical piano to express themselves, because they happen to be "yellow" and have no sense for 17th century white wig wearing europeans. Should black folks limit themselves to either bush drums or well turntables (which were invented by the white man and sophisticated for the DJ by the yellow man)?
*edit: I even forgot the "red" people...by your logic, those poor fellows only got the flute and a tiny one that is...
Thank you!
Eloy,Arizona in the house!🗨️👃🗨️
Oss, Sensei que información tan valiosa la que usted ha revelado, existen países donde aun el misticismo reina, y aun que no tenemos la formación directamente con usted, existe un grupo que lo seguimos y aprendemos de cada una de sus clases, sus consejos y sus enseñanzas, un saludo desde Barranquilla / Colombia, Dios lo Bediga Sensei !!!
It sucks but plagiarism in the arts is everywhere it comes down to people with no talent just trying to make a profit but it is saddening when it comes to turntablism because the history is so scarcely documented however i am grateful that you dedicate your time to help share insight into the Art
Back-spinning goes back years before Herc and Flash, to Grandmaster Flowers, in the late 60s.
AMEN!!!!!!
Nice vid took a lot of work to put this together and just to have the knowledge to know all this is incredible
Respect!
absolutely fresh-
Nice vid. good luck with the bitters tho
Thanks rob, that flash footage! Flash was fast!!
Great video
#14 is bad ass!
Big ups Steve Dee
I think at least people should get back to the old school way of doing things, during a set, or a routine, or a rap, give respects to those that came before you, those that inspired, those that you learned from, those that you admire. We stand on the shoulders of giants. I got my first gig coming up New Years Eve, and I was just thinking about this. I am not that skilled, I am not that technical yet, but I am going to do what I know how to do, and that is backspin, and do some simple scratches, and play some great beats and some great tracks, the very least I can do in that venue on that night is give thanks and respect to Grandmaster Flash and Grand Wizard Theodore. Would you mind adding some years or approximate years to that genealogy of the beat juggle?
Do your thing man. Congratulation, good luck, most of all have a good time!
Thanks man I appreciate it. I have done parties before over a decade ago, just playing out, knew nothing compared to what I know now. The information age has been a blessing and a curse.
@@kimotomo2430 same here. It's like a culture shock lol
yep what rob said
5:01 Agreed! And thanks for this video!
Great vid - you used to be so slim lol
CASH MONEY