How to build a 12x20 shed: Pt1
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I think they worked hard and the product is probably fine. That said, I would like wall studs at 16" on center they looked like they were building them 24" on center. I would build the roof trusses using plywood gussets on both sides of the truss (except the end trusses, they get just one side with gussets). I prefer a better floor sheathing than that OSB stuff.
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Beautiful shed, Great video. I have been putting one off for years. Think it's about time for me. Seven hours?? Unbelievable. It looks sharp!! Thanks for posting and enjoy it!
I wish I would have done this a couple of years ago. It's been a long time coming.
Why were the roof rafters not above the wall studs? I also agree with Terrance on the insulation. Just curious was that house wrap on the exposed side of the floor?
I am confused why they wasted your money insulating the floor although they installed the insulation backwards which would promote mold if you ever decided to insulate the rest of the shed and heat it. For your future reference, the moisture barrier (paper side) goes toward the inside of the structure.
Guys... this has a 20% dislike rate. That's a lot. You wonder why? It's because a lot of people that watch this already know how to build properly. You gentleman cut major corners on that roof build.
those guys were thrilled you were filming them all day
Watching that makes me wanna go finish building my cabin.... That was cool Ralph...thanks for sharing that!!!
ThanksBilly, when I'm done with the inside it should look like a cabin. Go finish your cabin or it will never get done.
Ralph....its been in the works for 6 years.... Not easy to finish with kids and no electric up there...lol. But someday...someday it will be done....
Billy Knoth I know how kids can put a damper on things, my are pretty much grown but they were young once. No worries on power I've got some battery operated tools I'll let you borrow LOL.
Lol T&N Services LLC.... I got a huge generator .... But it sucks getting it all the way upstate .....lol... Batteries won't cut it on this job...lol.
I think the way I built my neighbors 12x20 shed would carry more snow load I used a heavy ridge beam and then rafters fastened to that it gave it a nice vaulted ceiling look and its high enough it allowed for 4' loft storage on both ends and 2' sides and it's open in the center
seeing these guys building this I would run like hell. So many things done wrong.
where i am in texas - OSB means - 'Only Strong Before' Rain - i took a ton of time building mine & used pressure treated - ground contact on everything. plywood and the lot. built the trusses using plywood gussets screwed and glued and they are not toe nailed to the top plates. used ridge beam - purlins and sheathed the roof with at least 19" over hang drip edge and anything else to make water go somewhere else. used liquid flashing anywhere there might be a water intrusion and on and on........... ok, i over built the dang thing - but, water n' wind is a way of life on the gulf coast & i'd rather not have to deal w/ mold.
Those guys were working hard for sure. Not sure why they didn't build the entire gable wall on the deck and stand them up. Would have been much faster. The only thing I was worried about is I didn't see a level or a square on the job site.
Its a sheddd not a house
video came out well,, good job ralph
Thanks Steven
I must do a video on mine ...exact same size with less side window.Mine was pre-assemble from Cooks pre fab building with free delivery. I am using a PTAC heat pump . The rent in the city was just too much.
Your looks great !
I looked into buying a prefab but couldn't find and around here I liked. My wife found these guys on Facebook. I'm going to use a Mitsubishi to heat and cool it.
T&N Services LLC. I think you made a good decision to have it built onsite, that way you see it done and done right.
Hey Ralph, ohh man that looks beautiful my bro. Them guy's knew what they where doing. Can't wait to see the Video of you installing the Mini Split on it. Excellent job.
Nice Shed. Thats my project coming this spring. Enjoyed it!!!
i cant figure out from watching , how did they do the rake overhangs and the rafter tail overhangs?
It came out great Ralph beautiful video
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no tape measure, no square, seen one guy use his hammer, sawed out the doors and windows, exactly the way I do it.Thanks for showing.
I'm taking bets on whether a heavy snow or heavy winds will take that shed out of action. A smart man will bet that the mice nesting in the floor insulation or the mildew will ruin the floor first.
I hope to one day be as much of a pessimistic asshole as you!
@@tjs844 I hope to one day be as much of an idot as you. Hes not being pessimistic. He's being truthful. These guys are posting videos that someone might be inspired by and end up having their sheds fall down. Hes calling out safety vulnerabilities and you're ridiculing him for it. You must be a stupid republican...
And I don't care if any Republicans here get butt hurt about my comment. You guys are close-minded and want to live in your own little oblivion worlds, without care for others or the world around you. As long as everything stays good for you, you could give two shits about the planet or if others suffer. I know this rant is way off topic but the guy above spews blind hatred and is why someone like Trump is in office.
Ridiculing him? LMAO, the sensitivity in this one is through the roof. I'll play......I have never voted Republican in my life, and I am 32.....You literally just went on a left wing rant about absolutely nothing on a 12x20 shed build. From my comment you can tell I am a Republican, I'm close minded and want to live in my own little world, I don't care about the planet, or other's suffering, and my comment is why Trump is in office?......Wow, just wow, is all I can say.....Also, if you are going to call someone an *idiot, you might want to spell it correctly, the irony is great. I assume you are a leftist 17 year old, you are just as stupid as the Republicans you hate, different cheeks to the same ass.....Now kindly fuck off.
@@tjs844 Hey guys, republican here. Curious if I could get away with not using rafter ties or if putting in lower third of rafters will suffice for a greenhouse roof that will be 12' wide, only have 5 pound tuftex panels as roofing with a wood wall only 4' high(first couple of feet will be concrete footers and masonary)? Looking to increase head space but don't want overly tall build.
A job well done Ralph, those guys are good at what they do. All you need is Mini split and your good to go.
They did a hell of a job Emin. There wasn't a lot of talking as they were building it. They knew what to do and got it done. I've got the mini split ready to go. I'm just waiting to get the ceiling up then it will be mini split install time
T&N Services LLC. I knew you had that mini split waiting lol. They definitely were experienced set of guys. I'm very happy for you buddy, It beats paying monthly rent
T&N Services LLC. Did you do a load calc??? LOL
hannarye lol
hannarye who needs to do a load calc I'm putting in a mini split with an inverter compressor it will do the load for me. LOL
Shouldn't the insulation be the other way? The tyvex is on the bottom or outside so the paper should be on top here. Also they didn't attach the insulation so over time it will slide down the wall and leave gaps at the top.
That insulation was in the floor.
No rafter ties or ridge beam? I hope you don't get much snow or wind.
these guys don't have a clue about trusses
you know where you need to put your shed plans you've copied?
BoardsByTheBay I don’t think trusses were the issue, I think they misunderstand what a collar tie is used for, and it is not a substitute for wall or rafter tie. But you are right a proper truss would take care of it for sure.
kraft faced insulation in the floor should be placed paper side on top,not iunder as they did here. It should face toward a potential heated area.
They like their nail guns
Now...! How much did it cost you.??
Man, watching those guys work is like watching paint dry. If they drag their feet like that while they're being filmed then I can only imagine how they work when no one's around lol.
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mexicans. what u gonna do? manyana
This had got to be the slowest moving crew I've ever seen!
Those men did one hell of a job!!!! Great job men!!! I wonder how much that cost to build everything included???
Only about as much as the cost of the insurance deductible when the roof caved in or blows off...
Lucky they don't get much snow in Georgia with those spindly rafters.
Christopher Scott
Great observation there, Einstein. Now, go ponder which came first, the chicken or the egg. Idiot...
If and when my girlfriend and I buy this house here in Tn. It has a different style backyard and I will send you pics of it. I want to build a mancave or something like the workshop I just saw ya'll build in the video here. That was really impressive. Congrats to the builders and the new owners. i am really glad that i found this youtube channel. I will be contacting with you hopefully by signing date at the end of 8/26/2016 Until then, Happy building.
That's good stuff Mr. Ralph!
What was the song you played at the beggening... thank you also for the good video very useful
Looks great Ralph!!! Keep the videos coming on it!!!
I'm working on it John
The layout for the rafters should lie directly over the wall studs.
I was thinking the same thing. That layout makes for some shitty weight transfer.
Why are they using OSB for the floor ? ...that's a no no
Its a shed not a house
Some will say plywood on the floor is a no no and to use OSB ...
Didn't see any attempt at checking walls for plumb let alone squaring the walls. If I hired a company to build a shed for me and the "trusses" were framed like that I'd have a hard time not telling them to go screw themselves.
Hey Mark, these guy do this day in and day out they had it down pretty good. I did the finish work on the inside and believe it or not every thing lined up. You've got to live a little and just let some things go.
Mark F. they also put the insulation in the floor upside down. I hope the owner rat proofed the edges to the ground with hardware cloth before the rats move into that insulation.
The insulation and not having 2x4 framing on gable ends at "a" frame, no gable vents (but those are preferences) and if it were me roof joist would of sat on top plate right over the 2x4 wall framing not off set. But those are my only issues. Other than that nice build. Dude ahead of me bitching about the roof line your kidding right...perfectly normal build on a shed and more than suitable...my company builds sheds like this on a daily. Just the couple things i mentioned we do differently. Oh and this took 5 guys how many hours? All my walls and sub floors are pre built on my site day before site build we have it down to a science everything is pretty much the same other than window placements and doors. We have templates for every size so life is easy. On site time for our 12x24 are 9 hrs with two people. 10x12/16 on site 5 hrs 12x14/16 7hrs...its nice to be a small company well wanted around my entire state. Were quick not.bc were "sloppy" as the guy above basically said these guys were but bc its a science to us and we pre fab on my property.
@jollyandwaylo Mold Box
What state do you build?
Those nail guns came in handy.
Nice Ralph Hard Work Pay Brother I'm Happy For You!
Ralph, looks good. Would make a great office or man cave.
Thanks Sam, I keep calling it my office but my wife calls it my man cave.
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Why is the floor of a "shed" need insulation?
Shed isn't a living space, typically for storage.
Was all the lumber used pressure treated for weather? I'm not a pro but I know weatherized wood cost more so to save money trying to figure out if all the wood has to be pressure treated?
Only on floor the rest doesn't need treated lumber
I didnt see them cut a bird mouth in the rafters how did they do the overhang?
Geez those guys are trigger happy with those nail guns. Watches him tie in the walls and nail off the cap plate corners with like 8 nails! Its a 2x4 is there any wood left after that many nails geez. 3 nails maybe 4 at most on the corner cap plates.
Was gonna say the same thing. We use 5 maximum on 2x6 walls (square and 1 in the middle) , 8-9 on a 2x4 is a waste of money and actually weakens the corner. Amateurs.
when i built our shed i used a plan from LatestShedPlans48.blogspot.com
and it had all the blueprints, supplies, materials, and list well laid out for me.
Guys, the nails used in these nail guns have a smaller, tiny shank. It's like shooting needles with a half-head. It's perfectly ok at the speed at which they are inserted. These guys are PRO's and don't sweat the cost of the nails. They will probably built two or three of those sheds on that day. What does worry me is the mold box they built within the subflooring. Insulation put in backwards then the house wrap covering and trapping the moisture in the molded insulation... I don't like that.
If I built that insulated floor like that up in NY I'd have hundreds of mice in it in no time. ha!
@@gregbarnett2106 was there cost for plans? or just download it?
I built my 12×16 ft shed with double lofts by myself. I thought it kind of fun to start with until the old lady started nagging me about a finish deadline. Worked on it in my spare time and it took about six weeks to acually finish it. Lol
Would like to see a stronger roof system there .those 2+ 4 don't look good for heavy snow load
All in a day's work! And yea, I'd say they've done that a time or two! Lol looks nice though - hope you enjoy it, I know I sure would!
These guys came out and was done in 7 hours including the 1 hour lunch.
Wow! Quite impressive for sure
insulation in floor is upside down
Hello, what was the price tag to have your shed built by the shed builders? I am thinking of doing the same size building for the same usage, a back yard man cave/office. Thank you.
Having a shed like that built now would probably range from $12-16k. Maybe less depending on the contractors that do it and the lumbar prices in your area.
I could see a little Mitsibitshi going in there?
Yes sir, I bought the Mitsubishi before I bought anything else.
Looking good Ralph!
How much was that project?
Looking good Ralph , did u buy those guys some lunch
I thought about buying them lunch but when the boss came back from home depot he brought it with him
Thats my raza doing good work!... congrstulation for the new construction ralph Around how much cost to build something like this?
A Lot!
I haven't added it all up yet the building it self was just under $5000. Once you start adding up everything to finish the inside I'm going to be over $9000
I'm building an 8x10 playhouse for my daughter. Just passed 900 so far. Will probably be around 1300-1500 total.
how much did this cost . start to finish?
what kind of foundation
1st screw is on the doors
That's a nice little building
Thanks airkraft1
I wish we had work we could perfect and be that quick at
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airkraft1 I was pretty amazed they got it done as fast as what they did. I waited for six weeks to get this done. They stay busy
The vapor barrier goes to the in side of heated building even in the floor!
what the cost have them do it.....Think want 4,500 at the buy here pay here....
How many nails are you going to put in a 4"x4" area... 24?
Looks like good Trump wall builders ! Just make sure they build it on the south side with out doos
I am thinking of building a workshop about this size, and I'm on a fixed income. Just in materials what's the ballpark cost? If you don't mind me asking
Looks good.
Very nice
Great job gentleman!
Can we live in this for long?
OSHA would have a field-day with these guys ;)
+Matthew Hoffman Building isnt high enough for OSHA to get them on safety harness requirements I believe if thats what youre referring to. I could be proven wrong but I believe its a height level requirement
Now post price
Just curious what you charged for this shed build?
So when is the mancave warming party ? We have to break it in properly which includes beer drinking and pissing out the back porch. LOL
It's getting closer Charles, not sure when it's going to get done
Nice to watch people work once in a while.
I agree Rob
How much for this shed?
That's a great office/man cave right there. Great video of the install.
Thanks rasta1kikker I'm going to enjoy it once it's done
Can't wait to see it all done.
Tyvek and pink roll... in MN that's mouse,critter and flying asshole heaven...
insulation in floor upside down
How much would it cost to have this same size shed built in my backyard in Suwanee, Ga. 30024
+TheDoughnutDucky//Duckwie materials and labor were around $5000. Then my finish work was any $5000.
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lookin good
Thanks Brent
Nice, new to your channel
I think it needs about 70k more nails.
Thanks TH-cam! Are you satisfied that I watched it now?
Nice watching other people work for once.
That boyz and girlz, is what ya call RAG TAG !
but im sure a couple siding nails hit studs, well maybe.............
And a year later the building is still standing. Out of all those nails they shot in only one missed the targeted 2x4. I know shocking right!!! I've seen a group of white guys miss their mark and shot nails in my lineset on many occasions then take no responsibility for it. But that's alright
Your bragging cause that POS is still standing after a year ? MUST BE A PERSONAL BEST.
AND your a liar, video shows 3 shiners on interior in just 1 small area, by the way, theres next to nothing holding those "truss's' together- S C A R Y
wwll built by an llc company. limited liability co. lol. afraid to out their real name on the project.
+T&N Services LLC. A couple of white guys? Why did you make it a racial issue?
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Is it just me or do all the "workers" seem to have thier faces coverd or are facing away from camera?
ahh,, illegal mexicans ..??
Any English spoken on the job site?
Ralph, guest house for the in-laws?
Hey Mike, screw the in laws, this is all mine
I had my shed delivered already built. 12 -24. with a front porch and for 3 thousand dollars.
@Bear dog Sure you did... Sure you did
Ha! I call bullshit!
Insulation in floor wrong way....paper faces want you want to heat..I guess there heating the dirt
The roof connections are weak.
Rafter guy with a long handle on that hammer. Not your avg 28-oz framing hammer.
super video
how much??
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From the time you have it built to the time your done finishing it depending on how much you want to do to it anywhere from 8 to 10 thousand
thank you
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Title is a bit misleading.Unless by "how to build" you mean, "hire someone to build"... XD
Mold Box. Insulation installed backwards and trap in the moisture using the house wrap. Bad!
Looks great Ralph !! On to the next one lol. Take care, Brett
You have permit for that lol.. I am not big fan of climbing extension ladders
Can't imagine carrying two packs of shingles too..Nice shed looks well built
LOL permit what's that. I had extension ladders too I guess it's all in what you get use to doing.
Beats being in the dog house.
How to build a shed... Call the no joke shed building company!
Safety not a concern, nailing in trusses while standing on a 2x4 wall, no ladders, levels, braces used, trusses sitting on edge, sorry but I wouldn't use their build technique as a guideline.
Lol its a shed not a house
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NEVER use OSB on the floor!
LMAO ...
Others say NEVER use Plywood on the floor ...
Everyone thinks they know everything. Use what you want