really well put Nathan you are a brilliant communicator. I love how jazz doesn't feel so competitive these days, and subsequently not so scary 😂. Big up you and Chad..😎
Man.. guitar player here but im subscribing here as Bird is my fav and biggest influence..idk why I went with guitar (actually horns were too loud to learn at home!) But I love your teaching and its helping me..thanks brother !
Great Video Nathan. The first example you played with Straight Eighth Notes and Even Dynamics sounds like the way Paul Desmond sometimes Phrased. For anyone that's interested, please check out the book Forward Motion, by Hal Galper. It's an Outstanding book on Jazz Phrasing. Thanks.
Hey man! Really good video. I actually watched the video from Chad LB in the past and i didnt get it really. But now i understand exactly what he meant! Thank you!
Interesting, I had thought the “den” would be predominantly on the downbeats like the “oo” of “dah-oo”. Since it’s not, it creates an interesting shift of emphasizing the downbeats to emphasizing the upbeats, making everything feel unpredictable.
Hey, Great Video! I recently have been thinking a lot about this topic and I like the idea of using the Doo den doo den Phrasing on acscending scales und the Doo daa doo daa doo phrasing on descending scales but to be honest i think it sounds a bit unnatural sometimes. Of course you dont just play scales up and down most of the time but i personally think that using a mix of both phrasing techniques on acscending as well as descending scales sounds more natural. does anyone else think so?
Thanks Arthur! I think the main point of an exercise, especially these, is to have a constant that you can use to measure your progress throughout the days/weeks. Ultimately when improvising or upon observing other players, the articulation patterns will have all kinds of spontaneous variations.
You are right. This dooden tonguing rule for ascending lines sounds more like an artificial methodological invention rather than something that comes from the bebop language that we hear on the "classic" records by Charlie Parker, etc. The doo daa oo phrasing rule on descending lines is much more common, though. And for ascending lines we often hear a kind of spontaneous combination of both which brings that tap dance feel to the performance. The ghosted ("den") notes often precede the accented ones in the ascending lines, making the accents even brighter. And those accented notes usually indicate the highest notes (peaks) of the ascending lines and changing the direction of the melodic shape to the descending one...
Great video!! One question: if the line starts on an 'up beat' (and-a), do we still articulate it as a 'doo den doo...' ? With that we will be slurring into the down beats.
If staying strictly to the system from the masterclass, you would start the up-beat notes as “dah,” and yes, you slur into the down beats. But, it’s worth noting that in the grand scheme of things, there is no strict formula. When you go back to the recordings of legends, you will hear all kinds of variations, such as 3+ notes slurred, 2+ notes tongued in a row, etc. For the sake of these exercises, it is best to strictly follow what’s on the page and just trust in the long term process. Ultimately, know that eventually you will be able to not need to think of these things anymore and nature will take over.
Did guys like Phil Woods, Pepper, Mariano, Getz etc ( and Chad BTW), bought this course and learned bebop articulation from it or from copying Parker, Gillespie, Davis and Co. ? Guys , go and transcribe and emulate as many of the masters as you can. That is the way. Period
Sorry to say this but the masterclass from Chad LB is way too fast. He just explaines goin up and never really talks about whats happening with the tongue and stuff when goin down. And to hear him play something really fast doesnt do a thing except showing that hes good. I kinda think a lot of people get lost in about Minute 6 or 7 where for what ever reason he starts to play all dominant bebop scales. Im trying to get this, but hes definitely not doint a really good teaching job.
Chad LB doesn't impress but himself when he plays that fast. Someone should inform him that's there's only one J Coltrane and one J Henderson. These master improvisers played fast but didn't sound like they were playing technical exercises.
We instrumentalists/ Jazz Musicians should start having fake beefs like the rappers to generate sensation. We're too much better than them to not be seen more. Even the youngsters are very receptive to this type of music. I see more people coming back to real spiritual/ transcendental/jazz music these days
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really well put Nathan you are a brilliant communicator.
I love how jazz doesn't feel so competitive these days, and subsequently not so scary 😂. Big up you and Chad..😎
Man.. guitar player here but im subscribing here as Bird is my fav and biggest influence..idk why I went with guitar (actually horns were too loud to learn at home!) But I love your teaching and its helping me..thanks brother !
U a real one for shouting out your new friend Chad LB teaching program/ book. Glad that you're uploading again
awesome! ive enjoyed his articulation course - its really what he taught when i took lessons from him privately
After all these years of playing, I never knew this was a thing. Thanks!
Great Video Nathan. The first example you played with Straight Eighth Notes and Even Dynamics sounds like the way Paul Desmond sometimes Phrased. For anyone that's interested, please check out the book Forward Motion, by Hal Galper. It's an Outstanding book on Jazz Phrasing. Thanks.
Of course I enjoyed watching, learning and understanding this video... great piece of art
Great video! So helpful. Thank you. Next stop, the master class w/Chad. 😊
Hey man! Really good video. I actually watched the video from Chad LB in the past and i didnt get it really. But now i understand exactly what he meant! Thank you!
Fantastic tutorial, Mr Graybeal. Thank you so much.
sounds great, you have such a sharp articulation... cuts right through
thanks for the structured pedagogy, much appreciated
Way helpful Nathan. Thank you
I found this video to be really helpful for myself and my students, thanks!
That kinda video you leave the like at the first seconds 🔥
Interesting, I had thought the “den” would be predominantly on the downbeats like the “oo” of “dah-oo”. Since it’s not, it creates an interesting shift of emphasizing the downbeats to emphasizing the upbeats, making everything feel unpredictable.
I enjoyed🎉
Muito obrigado por fazer esse vídeo. Bastante esclarecedor. Bastante útil. Espetacular.
very goog friend, brazilian tanks!
You have a wonderful saxophone timbre! Please tell me, what kind of mouthpiece and reed do you have?
very useful thankss
Hi, so for ascending lines you play the accent on down beat? Thanks
Hey, Great Video! I recently have been thinking a lot about this topic and I like the idea of using the Doo den doo den Phrasing on acscending scales und the Doo daa doo daa doo phrasing on descending scales but to be honest i think it sounds a bit unnatural sometimes. Of course you dont just play scales up and down most of the time but i personally think that using a mix of both phrasing techniques on acscending as well as descending scales sounds more natural. does anyone else think so?
Thanks Arthur! I think the main point of an exercise, especially these, is to have a constant that you can use to measure your progress throughout the days/weeks. Ultimately when improvising or upon observing other players, the articulation patterns will have all kinds of spontaneous variations.
You are right. This dooden tonguing rule for ascending lines sounds more like an artificial methodological invention rather than something that comes from the bebop language that we hear on the "classic" records by Charlie Parker, etc. The doo daa oo phrasing rule on descending lines is much more common, though. And for ascending lines we often hear a kind of spontaneous combination of both which brings that tap dance feel to the performance. The ghosted ("den") notes often precede the accented ones in the ascending lines, making the accents even brighter. And those accented notes usually indicate the highest notes (peaks) of the ascending lines and changing the direction of the melodic shape to the descending one...
Can you pls try the John packer brand for alto sax
Yo, so bingo🎉❤🎉
Great video!! One question: if the line starts on an 'up beat' (and-a), do we still articulate it as a 'doo den doo...' ?
With that we will be slurring into the down beats.
If staying strictly to the system from the masterclass, you would start the up-beat notes as “dah,” and yes, you slur into the down beats.
But, it’s worth noting that in the grand scheme of things, there is no strict formula. When you go back to the recordings of legends, you will hear all kinds of variations, such as 3+ notes slurred, 2+ notes tongued in a row, etc. For the sake of these exercises, it is best to strictly follow what’s on the page and just trust in the long term process. Ultimately, know that eventually you will be able to not need to think of these things anymore and nature will take over.
Bebop man Bebop master😮
Did guys like Phil Woods, Pepper, Mariano, Getz etc ( and Chad BTW), bought this course and learned bebop articulation from it or from copying Parker, Gillespie, Davis and Co. ? Guys , go and transcribe and emulate as many of the masters as you can. That is the way. Period
Does anyone know what song is at 1:54
Confirmation- charlie parker
#Confirmation# from Charlie Parker
Yessir
Nathan: I have a hard time reading eigth notes without making them dotted quarter/eigths.
You can tell that Nathan is trying hard not to articulate in those examples! 😅 George Garzone would be proud 🥹, he is all about not using the tongue
did anyone notice the bag of takis at 2:07
I'm stuck on step one
Did the masters of bebop actually play like this?
Not to cause competitiveness, Nathan, but I actually thought you sounded better doing the articulation than Chad does. 😄
parkER forevER
Sorry to say this but the masterclass from Chad LB is way too fast. He just explaines goin up and never really talks about whats happening with the tongue and stuff when goin down. And to hear him play something really fast doesnt do a thing except showing that hes good. I kinda think a lot of people get lost in about Minute 6 or 7 where for what ever reason he starts to play all dominant bebop scales. Im trying to get this, but hes definitely not doint a really good teaching job.
Chad LB doesn't impress but himself when he plays that fast. Someone should inform him that's there's only one J Coltrane and one J Henderson. These master improvisers played fast but didn't sound like they were playing technical exercises.
We instrumentalists/ Jazz Musicians should start having fake beefs like the rappers to generate sensation. We're too much better than them to not be seen more. Even the youngsters are very receptive to this type of music. I see more people coming back to real spiritual/ transcendental/jazz music these days
Say less. Respond so I remember to come back here.
How the fuck do I do this on other instruments?
A master class. Thanks!!!