What itch me the most is that lobbed-plants are done dirty in terms of damage scaling cap compared to other attacking plants which have linear damage scaling (for context: cabbage pult's max damage is 120 damage, capped at level 9, and it's damage DOES NOT increase with each upgrade afterwards, which means at max level, it's dps is LESS THAN HALF of that of a Peashooter)
@@davidleon7918 What? Rooftop mechanic? What do you mean rooftop mechanic? Why would PopCap/Electronic artsA bring back pvz1 stuff? Oh yeah -Money- POOP
People do forget Sapfling USED to be terrible because it was a premium plant and had a higher sun cost... and stall strategies weren't really AS meta back then without the buffs applied to arena and Penny's pursuit zombies to make stalling more rewarding. There are more reasons to stall the mid game, but yeah. Sap Fling is one of those plants that's good when you know how to use it, but many insist on using it "for the sake of" and it's better to think of which type of stages it's really best for, like the aformentioned Arena and harder Penny's pursuit where unconditional stall is extremely useful and you don't really want to damage zombines too early. But in base game, it's usage is kind of.... you're using it cause you want to. Though it is excellent in Frostbite caves (shame it was added well AFTER that world was XD)
I originally ranked it a lot lower, but then after actually playing with it I changed my opinion on it. While still not the best by far, it's not too bad.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 I can see it being useful for thinning herds in the back. Plus given your favorite plant is Banana launcher, it fits you'd be comfortable with strategies that involve having a row of attacking plants in front of a line of defensive or utility plants. I haven't used Boomberry but I do agree with you. Used right it does have a unique niche. Plus it'll make Wizards and and other zombies that stay in the back ANSWER for their sins.
@@MarioMastar Boom Berry does have some strong uses, I found that when playing with it for this video. But it is difficult to get value out of compared to other plants.
Bruh, bonk choy is easily one of the best plants in the game. It can attacks way faster than any other plants and deals pretty good damage. Not to forget he can also attack two sides. The only downside is that it can only melee (close range) attack.
the reason the player gets pepper pult instead of fire peashooter in frostbite caves is because lobber plants can bypass ice blocks so pepper pult will still be able to attack zombies and warm plants
Well that and Fire peashooter is a gemium plant so if you're playing strictly free plants (not seedium either, adventure only) then Pepperpult is kind of your only option.... or it WAS your only option until they FINALLY let Snapdragon have a warming effect. It still has it's niche, but it is painfully underpowered. it did NOT need the slow recharge to be balanced. it's already balanced by being a half as powerful melonpult for about half the cost. The fire is strictly just a bonus.
I think another good way of buffing Spore-Shroom is making all new Spores from zombie kills spawns from every empty leftmost colum in the same lane as the original Spore planted. (this is may be too much, but hey, we have things like Pokra now.)
Spore shroom is one of those "Good idea on paper, bad idea in execution" because I LOVE the idea of a plant that effectively regenerates itself across the lawn for some good swarming strategies. It just does a really bad job at that. If it were like Red stinger where the further in front of the lawn, the slower the attack rate but the more defense it has, it would be an EXCELLENT plant. but in the front where it usually ends up, it dies so quickly it might as well not be there, and if it spawns in the back, it's either due to luck that a zombie got that close or you're losing anyway if Spore shroom (which is effectively a cabbage pult that can multiply and has a worse plant food) is your last line of defense. Plus in tower defense games you USUALLY want to control where you place plants to make the most out of thier strategy. Very few plants can be swarmed arbitrarily and be effective. So give it the Red stinger treatment and Boom that would fix it. Red Stinger is a plant that WISHES it had a reason to be planted up front, cause it's literally a worse wall nut/peashooter when planted anywhere but the back 3 lanes, where it's ironically a slightly weaker but cost effective repeater.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Yeah I agree, I really like your content. I like how your rankings aren't based on what you assume the "meta looks like" at the time like other rankings and instead seem to be based on what a decent casual player would notice about the plant and how likely they are to get general utility out of it to be worth bringing in. It's really therapeutic in the day of people demanding others ONLY play tower defense games "their way" (hence my mods rant), but your ranking system aligns a lot better with causal fans who don't live on the wiki and message boards trying to minmax their game and jsut want to know what plants are worth investing in.
I think even if pepper pult did have a 5 second recharge it would be in the same boat as AKEE and even spore shroom and unpowered dusk lobber. Maybe even cabbage pult AKEE stats: 175 sun. Hit's up to 4 zombies. Does 70 damage. Shoots out 3 big seeds with plant food Pepper Pult stats: 200 sun. 3x3 splash area of 10 damage. Does 50 damage. Shoots out 3 big peppers with splash damage with plant food Spore shroom stats: 150 sun. Zombies turn into spore shroom when killed (sometimes). Does 60 damage. Shoots out 3 big spores with plant food Dusk lobber stats: 150 sun. 1x1 splash area. Does damage(I don't know what the damage is) Shoots out 3 big buds with splash damage with plant food Cabbage pult stats: 100 sun. Does 40 damage. Shoots a 200 damage cabbage at EVERY ZOMBIE. So what do you think is better out of these? For me it's AKEE. (Yes I know AKEE does less damage every time it bounces of a zombie, and I know that it is pretty much lobbed bloomerang)
Hehe it'd actually be balanced. the slow recharge time makes it unbearable to use. It feels like you're being punished for not using hot potato in tandem with it. but given how random wind can be, how is that OUR fault? XD Just give Hot potato a lingering warming effect and buff Pepper pult's recharge time and it'd be fine. I'd argue it's worse than Cabbage pult PURELY cause of the slow recharge.
Dragon bruit is one of my personal favourite plants. Boosted with moonflower it can deal with all the bucket spam in penny’s pursuit thanks to poison. It’s a dusk lobber and shadow combined
I used cabbage pult from ancient Egypt until wild west cuz of its plant food, for me its op for clearing up crowds of zombie. only stopped cause i got dusk lobber from the arena,yes my baby dust lobber made it to S Tier YESSSSS. So is sunproducer next? I think the poll are hints for future videos
@@Howtoplay116 I have 2 ideas for the next video. One of them is a bit out there and probably won't perform well, but I might make it anyways because I like the idea.
Cabbage pult being the worst lobber says a lot more about how good Lobbers are than how bad Cabbage Pult is. as Cabbage Pult is still a solid plant, just HEAVILY power crept, but if you HAD to use it, it's still worth planting and has a good plantfood as unlike most other lobbers, it hits EVERY zombie on the map.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Blastberry vine was the first Vine plant to be introduced (technically Pumpkin was first but it wasn't considered a "vine" yet) so it's kind of weak because they wanted to make sure it was balanced. Similar to the Power mints having a ton of limitations when first introduced like not being able to use plant food to recharge them. Still, the worst vines are C tier purely cause they occupy the same space as a plant, so at worst they're as good as the plant they're protecting.
This is more of a popularity contest than a viability one looking at Winter Melon's overrated position having bad damage scaling with levels and very high suncost, SBR which somehow ranked 3rd is orders of magnitude better than Winter Melon and Dusk Lobber, not to say the former are bad but some plants are just built different and SBR deserves number 1. And don't get me started on the low placement of Sap-Fling, that plant is fundamentally broken at 75 sun, to the point i would rate it higher than Winter Melon as it effectively steals its niche as a consistent slowing plant (inb4 some1 mentiones Sap-Fling doesn't do damage, it not doing damage can №1 be a positive if you don't want to kill a zombie for waves to not progress or №2 use better options for damage that don't cost your entire sun economy to buy for mediocre damage).
I agree, if I were to rank Stickybomb rice without the influence of that poll it would be number one easy, dusk lobber still second. Yeah sapfling is good. I tried to acknowledge that in the video. Maybe I did not rank it high enough.
REALLY?!? I'm not much of a dusk lobber fan. I think it's kinda too overpowered but SUCKS?!? Even unpowered it's like AKEE or spore shroom or pepper pult or cabbage pult.
"There is a reason all PvZ mods nerf winter melon to oblivion". And the very same reason I heavily dislike mod elitism (Sorry Creep20, but don't factor mods into your pvz tower reviews....) Most mods are made by veterans who feel the game needs to be "harder" but by harder, it usually means some min-max strategy bullsh8t that effectively means you either memorized the wiki (for the MOD, not JUST the base game) or you end up wondering why even bother using most plants cause they're nearly impossible. PvZ doesn't HAVE to be an exercise of min maxing with good zombie and level design. and while some plants could be tweaked cause they frankly aren't very well balanced, I'd much prefer the Winter melon to keep it's power but be used more strategically to the stage that could account for it. Put wintermelon in a "Last stand" level or a very short one wave level, or throw in zombies that move around a lot and suddenly Wintermelon isn't the most optimal choice. but don't nerf a plant just because "Well the top players already think the game plays itself." Seriously, Explod-o-nut costing 400 sun was done by people who clearly never played the game before and just assume there's no reason to bring anything else. 100 or 150 sun would be a better cost, but there ARE valid reasons NOT to rely on explodonut with good zombie spawns. After all if you're stalling for that explosion while faster, more dangerous zombies are dashing beside it, or the zombies simply DON"T ATTACK like Wizards, your explode-o-nut is taking up a space you'd really want a cherry bomb. and in a level with predominantly non attacking zombies or zombies that push plants (like far future's football mechs), explod-o-nut can be a hinderance more than a help. So why make it 400 sun as if you REALLY don't want people to use it? It's a Wall nut that explodes like a cherry bomb when destroyed. 200 is fine. And my rant isn't about the cost being too high like it's hard to get that much, it's the principle of not understanding WHEN to use a tower and assuming all towers exist in a vacuum where perfect conditions would lead to the plant being used optimally every time. This isn't the case and is NOT how you play tower defense games. The towers don't need nerfing unless they're objectively overpowered in every situation, but the premium plants are like that by design cause you pay for them, and even then, they still have thier weaknesses if people think they're paying for a "win for me" plant. Just make the zombies and stages harder like Penny's pursuit already does.
Another thing I would like to add is that E-pea, Grape shot, cold snap dragon, and just most plants in general get nefed from good to barely useable. In alot of mods I find it hard to experiment with strategies because they are all so bad. So I end up just using peas which is usually the lest messed with plants in mods.
I prefer Dusk Lobber over Winter Melon because you multiply 3x3 radius by 3 for every plant, and it only costs 200 sun with Moon Flower It's only weaknesses are Prospectors, Pterodactyls and Parasol Ladies
I would put dusk lobber in a cus it requires at least 2 seed slots and plus has to be near that second slot to be strong, so it requires space, and seed slots or a premium purchasable plant.
wintermelon is the most overated plant ever because yiu will neevr be able to afford it unless you spam 282938 sunflowers 3 dusk lobbers with a moonflower is stronger than melon pult will ever be
I want to defend blooming heart so badly as I like the plant but it does suck and other plants are better then it however I would say that blastberry vine is ever so slightly better then d tier just because it doesn't take up any space and is essentially extra dps for any plant if you have the sun spare for the vine and or don't own any other vine
@@DJ_Wolfy5 i mean the coconut cannon is in the arma mint family and most of the arma mint famliy members are the pult plants and the coconut cannon is in the arma mint and there's dragon bruit and mangofier
@@DJ_Wolfy5 *personal opinion* cabbage pult for me could be in C tier, its plantfood is pretty good for the first 3 levels and could be used in arena and i mean its C for cabbage right?
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What itch me the most is that lobbed-plants are done dirty in terms of damage scaling cap compared to other attacking plants which have linear damage scaling (for context: cabbage pult's max damage is 120 damage, capped at level 9, and it's damage DOES NOT increase with each upgrade afterwards, which means at max level, it's dps is LESS THAN HALF of that of a Peashooter)
I feel this. Melon pult has very weak leveling for example.
The game need to bring back the rooftop type mechanics.
@@davidleon7918 What? Rooftop mechanic? What do you mean rooftop mechanic? Why would PopCap/Electronic artsA bring back pvz1 stuff?
Oh yeah
-Money- POOP
POOPCAP?
YOU MEAN SHITA
"Boomberry is kinda decent"
That one zombie in the back of the lane cucking you from attacking a gargantuar:
Fair point, I use boom berry mainly for its stun.
The octo at the back
@@agentmanface6255 wizard zombie at the back aswell playing uno with octo and fisherman zombie
Boomberry is cool boi, Hocus Crocus well be it's best friend in my opinion, Sadly i was not playing when it's season was running.
@@Karasu9-qw7yg one of the most annoying trios
8:23 just spoiled it man
Yeah you're right. I'll make sure to fix that for future projects.
Personally, sap-fling is a very good plant. Good early staller and works with fire plants.
That is a nice bonus of sap fling. W
People do forget Sapfling USED to be terrible because it was a premium plant and had a higher sun cost... and stall strategies weren't really AS meta back then without the buffs applied to arena and Penny's pursuit zombies to make stalling more rewarding. There are more reasons to stall the mid game, but yeah. Sap Fling is one of those plants that's good when you know how to use it, but many insist on using it "for the sake of" and it's better to think of which type of stages it's really best for, like the aformentioned Arena and harder Penny's pursuit where unconditional stall is extremely useful and you don't really want to damage zombines too early. But in base game, it's usage is kind of.... you're using it cause you want to. Though it is excellent in Frostbite caves (shame it was added well AFTER that world was XD)
if i recall it also works with other forms of stall too, which can be insane.
Boomberry never deserves such high ranking, even blastberry vine can do the job better with the same level
I originally ranked it a lot lower, but then after actually playing with it I changed my opinion on it. While still not the best by far, it's not too bad.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 I can see it being useful for thinning herds in the back. Plus given your favorite plant is Banana launcher, it fits you'd be comfortable with strategies that involve having a row of attacking plants in front of a line of defensive or utility plants. I haven't used Boomberry but I do agree with you. Used right it does have a unique niche. Plus it'll make Wizards and and other zombies that stay in the back ANSWER for their sins.
@@MarioMastar Boom Berry does have some strong uses, I found that when playing with it for this video. But it is difficult to get value out of compared to other plants.
Is it just me or am I obsessed with Lobber Plants
8:07 Screw MGP, screw Bonk Choy, embrace banana
Oh yeah, and just a thought. Would you want to import your pvz2 trivia here?
Perhaps, Maybe I could post them as community posts as well?
Bruh, bonk choy is easily one of the best plants in the game. It can attacks way faster than any other plants and deals pretty good damage. Not to forget he can also attack two sides. The only downside is that it can only melee (close range) attack.
@@IWishYouTheBest finally someone understands me!
@@IWishYouTheBest pea vine= better
@@Mobilenoob-ps8em Yeah true. But bonk choy isn't bad either.
Personally, i love pepper pult, he’s insanely good in arena with his plantfood and splash damage.
I like the plantfood too
“BUH-BUH-BANANA” -Banana Launcher
BANANA!
YEY the Cute TH-camr has finally uploaded!!!
Yes Sir!
I dont know why but your videos are super entertaining and fun ti watch keep it up man, the content is great
Glad you like them!
the reason the player gets pepper pult instead of fire peashooter in frostbite caves is because lobber plants can bypass ice blocks so pepper pult will still be able to attack zombies and warm plants
True. I like that too. it is just... Pepper pult is very weak.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 hes actually my favorite plant. and its rlly satisfying in frostbite caves when you have a line of them thawing and heating nearby plants
Well that and Fire peashooter is a gemium plant so if you're playing strictly free plants (not seedium either, adventure only) then Pepperpult is kind of your only option.... or it WAS your only option until they FINALLY let Snapdragon have a warming effect. It still has it's niche, but it is painfully underpowered. it did NOT need the slow recharge to be balanced. it's already balanced by being a half as powerful melonpult for about half the cost. The fire is strictly just a bonus.
@MarioMastar yeah also 20 seconds is a medium recharge. a long recharge is more of 30 seconds-90 seconds
@@PrimalJackOLantern I think 20 seconds is a little long for PvZ2s fast pace.
3:33 sonic superstars reference
lmao
Dude really say "Boom bewwy"
I think another good way of buffing Spore-Shroom is making all new Spores from zombie kills spawns from every empty leftmost colum in the same lane as the original Spore planted.
(this is may be too much, but hey, we have things like Pokra now.)
That does seem like it would help spore shroom be good. Though a spore shroom spawning behind a spore shroom might look weird lol.
Spore shroom is one of those "Good idea on paper, bad idea in execution" because I LOVE the idea of a plant that effectively regenerates itself across the lawn for some good swarming strategies. It just does a really bad job at that. If it were like Red stinger where the further in front of the lawn, the slower the attack rate but the more defense it has, it would be an EXCELLENT plant. but in the front where it usually ends up, it dies so quickly it might as well not be there, and if it spawns in the back, it's either due to luck that a zombie got that close or you're losing anyway if Spore shroom (which is effectively a cabbage pult that can multiply and has a worse plant food) is your last line of defense. Plus in tower defense games you USUALLY want to control where you place plants to make the most out of thier strategy. Very few plants can be swarmed arbitrarily and be effective. So give it the Red stinger treatment and Boom that would fix it. Red Stinger is a plant that WISHES it had a reason to be planted up front, cause it's literally a worse wall nut/peashooter when planted anywhere but the back 3 lanes, where it's ironically a slightly weaker but cost effective repeater.
You make really nice content, you’re super underrated 😭 thanks for the video it really helped me learn
That is awesome sauce. Also ty for the complement.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Yeah I agree, I really like your content. I like how your rankings aren't based on what you assume the "meta looks like" at the time like other rankings and instead seem to be based on what a decent casual player would notice about the plant and how likely they are to get general utility out of it to be worth bringing in. It's really therapeutic in the day of people demanding others ONLY play tower defense games "their way" (hence my mods rant), but your ranking system aligns a lot better with causal fans who don't live on the wiki and message boards trying to minmax their game and jsut want to know what plants are worth investing in.
@@MarioMastar Thanks. I just rank based on what is probably good and probably bad based off my personal PvZ2 experience with the plants.
I think even if pepper pult did have a 5 second recharge it would be in the same boat as AKEE and even spore shroom and unpowered dusk lobber. Maybe even cabbage pult
AKEE stats: 175 sun. Hit's up to 4 zombies. Does 70 damage. Shoots out 3 big seeds with plant food
Pepper Pult stats: 200 sun. 3x3 splash area of 10 damage. Does 50 damage. Shoots out 3 big peppers with splash damage with plant food
Spore shroom stats: 150 sun. Zombies turn into spore shroom when killed (sometimes). Does 60 damage. Shoots out 3 big spores with plant food
Dusk lobber stats: 150 sun. 1x1 splash area. Does damage(I don't know what the damage is) Shoots out 3 big buds with splash damage with plant food
Cabbage pult stats: 100 sun. Does 40 damage. Shoots a 200 damage cabbage at EVERY ZOMBIE.
So what do you think is better out of these? For me it's AKEE. (Yes I know AKEE does less damage every time it bounces of a zombie, and I know that it is pretty much lobbed bloomerang)
Helpful comment.
Hehe it'd actually be balanced. the slow recharge time makes it unbearable to use. It feels like you're being punished for not using hot potato in tandem with it. but given how random wind can be, how is that OUR fault? XD Just give Hot potato a lingering warming effect and buff Pepper pult's recharge time and it'd be fine. I'd argue it's worse than Cabbage pult PURELY cause of the slow recharge.
how do you get sap-fling?
I didn't even know boomberry existed 🤣
Love the vids. How do you feel about dragon bruit? It’s got lobbed projectiles.
Dragon bruit is one of my personal favourite plants. Boosted with moonflower it can deal with all the bucket spam in penny’s pursuit thanks to poison. It’s a dusk lobber and shadow combined
Cool design that I love, but it shoots somewhat slow.
I know it makes me sad
@@Dumbsparce yeah
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I used cabbage pult from ancient Egypt until wild west cuz of its plant food, for me its op for clearing up crowds of zombie. only stopped cause i got dusk lobber from the arena,yes my baby dust lobber made it to S Tier YESSSSS. So is sunproducer next? I think the poll are hints for future videos
The polls were hints lol. I was using them as data for my rankings.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 okay if you post some polls then I think I can piece them together to find out the next video topic is
@@Howtoplay116 I have 2 ideas for the next video. One of them is a bit out there and probably won't perform well, but I might make it anyways because I like the idea.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 you do you I'd like to consume more content nom nom nom
@@Howtoplay116 Om nom (cut the rope reference.)
I am glad that you enjoy my content. Thank you.
I completely forgot about pepper pult lmao
Lol, it's that forgettable.
This is S tier content why isnt this channel famous? Plus u got a sub for entertaining me
Thanks for the sub and the complement!
"cabbage pult is the worst lobber"
*Mr.Marinara would like to know your location*
RIP Carl
RIP carl
Cabbage pult being the worst lobber says a lot more about how good Lobbers are than how bad Cabbage Pult is. as Cabbage Pult is still a solid plant, just HEAVILY power crept, but if you HAD to use it, it's still worth planting and has a good plantfood as unlike most other lobbers, it hits EVERY zombie on the map.
@@MarioMastar Yeah, cabbage is solid.
Also I enjoy reading your comments.
Bro just thought of a new plant called zaza
Ngl that kinda hurt when he said the thing abt grinding for blast berry vine
At least the berries go blast!
@@DJ_Wolfy5 Blastberry vine was the first Vine plant to be introduced (technically Pumpkin was first but it wasn't considered a "vine" yet) so it's kind of weak because they wanted to make sure it was balanced. Similar to the Power mints having a ton of limitations when first introduced like not being able to use plant food to recharge them. Still, the worst vines are C tier purely cause they occupy the same space as a plant, so at worst they're as good as the plant they're protecting.
@@MarioMastar Yeah the space they save is really good. I think that being able to plantfood recharge mints is a bit OP.
You talk so uwu-ey
I have gotten this same comment a few times and I have no idea what it means.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 It means you speak like those furries want to speak, y'know,the "I'm vewy sowwy :333"
Nice
Never say that again😉
Finally someone else who sees banana launcher as our lord and saviour
BANANA
@@DJ_Wolfy5 BANANA
@@arcitatious APPLE.
Banana launcher is one of my favorite plants, maybe even my favorite
@@therealgigavolta Banana-oh-na-na
This is more of a popularity contest than a viability one looking at Winter Melon's overrated position having bad damage scaling with levels and very high suncost, SBR which somehow ranked 3rd is orders of magnitude better than Winter Melon and Dusk Lobber, not to say the former are bad but some plants are just built different and SBR deserves number 1.
And don't get me started on the low placement of Sap-Fling, that plant is fundamentally broken at 75 sun, to the point i would rate it higher than Winter Melon as it effectively steals its niche as a consistent slowing plant (inb4 some1 mentiones Sap-Fling doesn't do damage, it not doing damage can №1 be a positive if you don't want to kill a zombie for waves to not progress or №2 use better options for damage that don't cost your entire sun economy to buy for mediocre damage).
I agree, if I were to rank Stickybomb rice without the influence of that poll it would be number one easy, dusk lobber still second.
Yeah sapfling is good. I tried to acknowledge that in the video. Maybe I did not rank it high enough.
Personally i find pepper pult more useless than cabbage pult. I rather save up and spend 100 gems to get the fire peashooter for frostbite cave.
I'm surprised to see spore shroom on this list
"Banana"
-Banana Launcher
I prefer to use Cabbage Pult throughout all of the Egypt world, and even a bit of Pirate Seas and Wild West, maybe also in others
Personally I think dusk libber kinda sucks, especially at a low level
It kinda really sucks when not powered.
REALLY?!? I'm not much of a dusk lobber fan. I think it's kinda too overpowered but SUCKS?!? Even unpowered it's like AKEE or spore shroom or pepper pult or cabbage pult.
i personaly really like turkey pult its ability is op
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Good video
Thanks!
@@DJ_Wolfy5 i never knew which lobbers were bad and mostly good
@@DJ_Wolfy5 so thank you
@@JoanDaBest69 If you see a pepper pult, it's bad!
Also love the cat pfp.
people be talking negative about your voice and you still are positive about it
actual goat 🐐 🔥
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Can you do like a big video about short range attackers plants from pvz 2
(And gloomshroom for bonus because i like comparing him to pvz 2 plants)
I will add it to the list.
Its so heartwarming to see winter melon, a plant from pvz1, score the first place
And to also see cabbage pult score the last place lmao
Cabbage gets unlocked in the tutorial, then you never really use it again. At least that is how it went for me.
Poor cabbage pult. Even a peashooter has better dps than cabbage
@@harrishromero6447 yup, that is true.
I like how he answers every comment
I try my best to. There are soo many of them!
At the thumbnail I thought you rank the A K E E an f bro.A K E E is my cutie plant ok
People don't know that Sap fling can't stall the zombies in water
It's kinda useless in Big Wave Beach
Turkey-pult is goated IMO
The most broken and underrated plant in the game
i see how big your channel is going good job
Thanks, great job on your channel too!
Thanks
@@thomasthegood For sure. Keep it up!
4:25 attacking "plants" at the back of the lawn 💀
💀Oh no!
"There is a reason all PvZ mods nerf winter melon to oblivion". And the very same reason I heavily dislike mod elitism (Sorry Creep20, but don't factor mods into your pvz tower reviews....) Most mods are made by veterans who feel the game needs to be "harder" but by harder, it usually means some min-max strategy bullsh8t that effectively means you either memorized the wiki (for the MOD, not JUST the base game) or you end up wondering why even bother using most plants cause they're nearly impossible. PvZ doesn't HAVE to be an exercise of min maxing with good zombie and level design. and while some plants could be tweaked cause they frankly aren't very well balanced, I'd much prefer the Winter melon to keep it's power but be used more strategically to the stage that could account for it. Put wintermelon in a "Last stand" level or a very short one wave level, or throw in zombies that move around a lot and suddenly Wintermelon isn't the most optimal choice. but don't nerf a plant just because "Well the top players already think the game plays itself." Seriously, Explod-o-nut costing 400 sun was done by people who clearly never played the game before and just assume there's no reason to bring anything else. 100 or 150 sun would be a better cost, but there ARE valid reasons NOT to rely on explodonut with good zombie spawns. After all if you're stalling for that explosion while faster, more dangerous zombies are dashing beside it, or the zombies simply DON"T ATTACK like Wizards, your explode-o-nut is taking up a space you'd really want a cherry bomb. and in a level with predominantly non attacking zombies or zombies that push plants (like far future's football mechs), explod-o-nut can be a hinderance more than a help. So why make it 400 sun as if you REALLY don't want people to use it? It's a Wall nut that explodes like a cherry bomb when destroyed. 200 is fine.
And my rant isn't about the cost being too high like it's hard to get that much, it's the principle of not understanding WHEN to use a tower and assuming all towers exist in a vacuum where perfect conditions would lead to the plant being used optimally every time. This isn't the case and is NOT how you play tower defense games. The towers don't need nerfing unless they're objectively overpowered in every situation, but the premium plants are like that by design cause you pay for them, and even then, they still have thier weaknesses if people think they're paying for a "win for me" plant. Just make the zombies and stages harder like Penny's pursuit already does.
Another thing I would like to add is that E-pea, Grape shot, cold snap dragon, and just most plants in general get nefed from good to barely useable. In alot of mods I find it hard to experiment with strategies because they are all so bad. So I end up just using peas which is usually the lest messed with plants in mods.
The A.K.E.E is one of my favorite plants.
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Tofu?
No kernel-pult is s tier
Blooming heart throws its flower at a the zombie, in real life she is a plant called Bleeding heart, which its flower has a heart-like shape
Yeah that type of stuff is cool. Kinda like how dragon Bruit is based off dragon fruit.
I feel bad for cabbage pult because he's tooo darn cute. 😢
Yea, just some crazy powercreep.
I prefer Dusk Lobber over Winter Melon because you multiply 3x3 radius by 3 for every plant, and it only costs 200 sun with Moon Flower
It's only weaknesses are Prospectors, Pterodactyls and Parasol Ladies
That is fair. I like dusk lobber too.
"But Dusk Lobber isn't an Arma-mint plant!" -A certain nerd
It still lobs!!!!!
also boomberry does more damage when there is more boomberries on the lawn
Yes! I forgot to mention that.
ofc lobbers lob fruits of vegetables what else would they do?????????
Blastberry deals 15 damage per each berry . My 3 level blastberry that deals 35 damage can 2 shots basic zombie
I would put dusk lobber in a cus it requires at least 2 seed slots and plus has to be near that second slot to be strong, so it requires space, and seed slots or a premium purchasable plant.
True.
I think shadow pea is better for shadow plants
sticky bomb rice is good for lvl 7-11 zombies
7-11 zombies makes me think of the gas station.
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I kinda disagree to turkey pult she should be A Tier tbh
That is fair. It is not bad at all.
wintermelon is the most overated plant ever because yiu will neevr be able to afford it unless you spam 282938 sunflowers 3 dusk lobbers with a moonflower is stronger than melon pult will ever be
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dude wintermelon helped me a lot in arena macthes the crowd control is insane
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I want to defend blooming heart so badly as I like the plant but it does suck and other plants are better then it however I would say that blastberry vine is ever so slightly better then d tier just because it doesn't take up any space and is essentially extra dps for any plant if you have the sun spare for the vine and or don't own any other vine
That is a fair point.
10:32 you miss Turkey Pult
You are right. Thanks.
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Turkey pult = gargantuar invalid
Yup!
0:18 i’m dead
Idk what to Comment😶
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Personally in my opinion I think missile toe and coconut cannon and strawbrust are pult plants and cabbage pult is good.
Strawburst and missile toe I agree, but cannon is a stretch.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 i mean the coconut cannon is in the arma mint family and most of the arma mint famliy members are the pult plants and the coconut cannon is in the arma mint and there's dragon bruit and mangofier
and the holly barrier
@@saffath10 True. It just shoots straight is all.
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I love kernel plug and I’m glad he isn’t in d tier 🌽🌽🌽
Kernel pult butter is a great utility.
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Maybe I just haven't gotten the levels on Boomberry, but I absolutely hate it.
That is fair tbh.
Swap sling pea and turkey pult
1:12 Okay, maybe Cabbage-pult isn't that great but Bloomerang sucks ass.
Bloomerang is not a lobber.
Love how Banana Launcher is in Banana tier
I like cabbage I ve used him all of pirate seas
Hes ok, just not the best
Wait the cabbage pult at level One can kill 1 normal zombie in a 4 hits.
It's 5 hits in PvZ2. 4 hits in PvZ3 iirc.
Sap fling is at least a tier
Sap fling is a food plant imo
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winter melon is goated
Yes, for sure.
AKEE is super good as its pretty cheap, does higher than average damage, and can shoot more than 1 zombie at a time
Yeah, it's not too bad at all.
Dragon bruit counts as a lobbing plant too right?
Yes. I just forgot to include it.
winter melon is so good I always use this plant and I always win the difficult level.
pfp checks out.
I think daizy chain is way better then blooming heart
It kinda is
5:30 A.K.E.E can only hit 3 zombies not 4 zombies
ooh. The wiki told me it hits the first one then bounces 3 times. Unless I am mis-remembering.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 I'm pretty sure the wiki said "Bounces and Hit's targets 3 times" Were you using normal wikipedia or variation of wikipedia?
Sling pea is s tier two is pea pod can attack any lane!
Full pod
Thoughts on PvZ 3 currently?
Pain and suffering.
I like it. While it has lots of room for improvement I have been enjoying it. (I have 123 taco tickets saved!)
*Make us pick plant*
Other than that i like it
Isn't cob cannon also lobber?
Kinda, but it is a PvZ1 plant. Unless you count PvZ2 china, but I don't know enough about PvZ2 china.
dog is bubbles is my favorite lobber ngl
Fr fr.
@@DJ_Wolfy5 *personal opinion* cabbage pult for me could be in C tier, its plantfood is pretty good for the first 3 levels and could be used in arena and i mean its C for cabbage right?
@@SubZeroFrost Yeah cabbage could go in C tier.
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Hey,Duck Lobber should be the best here(i guess)
where is the 3 headed dragon plant
Dragon Bruit. Yeah I dunno why I skipped it. I thought about it too, I just did not include it for some reason.
Keep in mind not everybody in the world buys 100 gems using real money and buy that thing
You dont need real money to earn 100 gems. You can do daily quests, ads, Penny's Pursuit, Arena, and epic quests for gems.
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