Isn't pumpkin technically a vine? 1: it's always included with the vine families 2:pumpkin would most likely be the vine for defensive plants, considering that most plant families have at least one vine. 3: I know it doesn't have the vine name, but it does have virtually the same attributes as an vine plant. In fact, I think pumpkin was the plant to inspire vine plants to come.
I dont know if anyone has remembered, but lily pad functionally counts as the vine for the Contain-Mint family. it can be placed on top of other plants (but only on wet sand and water tiles, both exclusive to big wave beach) and will trigger its plant food (spawn 4 lily pads in a + pattern and heals lily pads if they were already there) when the plant on it has its plant food ability triggered.
@@duckfishron6486 it's the original vine plant, it's just that the rules of this challenge are not the same as the actual classification. Lily Pad and Gardening Pot are fringe cases since they don't wrap around a plant, they just act as ground.
i'm pretty sure bwb day 28 might be possible if blastberry vine was used. if i recall, the plant can deal with snorkel zombies as they're lobbing plants. lobbing plants can hit them.
Yeah since Lobbing Plants can hit any zombie over and obstacle and as it’s not a straight shooter, it can easy deal with Snorkel and also occasionally hit other zombies
Try beating the game with only using 14 plants Now scence there are 14 families, you get 1 plant of your choice for each family Here is my recommended loadout Fila mint plant- Electric Peashooter Pepper mint plant- Meteor Flower Winter mint plant- Chilly Pepper Enlighten mint plant- Sun shroom Bombard mint plant- Explode o' Vine Reinforce mint plant- Holly Barrier Enchant mint plant- Imitator Enforce mint plant- Rhubarbarian Ail mint plant- Nightcap Conceal mint plant- Shadow shroom Appease mint plant- Bowling Bulb Arma mint plant- Stickybomb rice Spear mint plant- Pokra Contain mint plant- Lily pad That's just a recommendation, but you can change it if you want. Rules: 1. No leveling up plants 2. No power ups. 3. For Dark Ages 14 you can use Sun bean 4. You can plant food for ability and recharging plants I would like to see this challenge. Good luck if you attempt it!
Can you beat Pvz 2 by only using zombies? (Hypno shoom, caulipower, enchant mint, solar sage, sun bean, and the plant that turns zombies into ice shields.) .
You should do this again with aqua-vine, it can really help you survive plenty of levels without having to spam explodo-vines, especially since planting aqua-vine on the ground causes it to knock back zombies it hits
I would have thought blastberry vine world be good I mean it does an area-of-effect attack that does decent damage. Also I think it can hit snorkels because it's a lobing plant
Hey Sylvia, just wanna say I love your content. You’re incredibly positive and one of the only content creators in the community who actually seems to love BFN just as much as I do. But here’s a little question, how come in all of your older videos people refer to you as Xavier? I can’t find the video where the name switched over, and since you don’t have an X page I can’t really get to know you better, so if you get a chance to reply please help with my confusion.
So, I’ll give an honest answer for this because I frankly doubt that any of my family is gonna notice it: I used to go by XavierYSI, and it was actually my real name. Now with that being said, I also came to a realization about myself a few months ago, that I was trans. So, I decided to basically completely redo any intro I made and stuff along those lines to fit the name that I go by now. But because it’s sometimes too painful for me to even look at the times I called myself my old name, I privated any intro where I did so, which is why there’s no smooth transition anywhere within my videos. Most people still don’t know about that trans part, so it feels weird for me to explain it on YT. I promise you, if you ever caught me in Floral Federation, it would be MUCH more obvious. Well, I hope that clears things up for you
@@SylviaYSI okay, thank you. That’s around what I assumed, but I felt being presumptuous might’ve been rude if I was wrong in some way. I wish you the best!
in some cases generous in some makes it not a challenge for example 1 the locked and half loaded lvls should still be only vines(not a challenge example) 2 u should be able to lvl up plants but only vines as it is the actual mechanic of this game same for zen garden (generous example)
Okay I get the thing with blastberry since it’s dps literally required the entire row to be full to maximize and there isn’t really a tank for it to be effective But what about pea vine? Isn’t that just an upgraded peashooter?
Given that the 50 sun meta means you can skip straight to Repeater at the start of a level, Peashooter simply isn't a good plant. Also note that the ability of Pea Vine is that any Pea plant placed inside it get buffed, so this challenge doesn't get to use half of the plant.
Would bwb be possible if you could actually use pumpkin? Pumpkin's like the vine for defense plants even though it doesn't have vine aspects because it's from pvz1
I'd suggest a genuine support plants only challenge, but that would mean that you'd be using stuff like Moonglow + Gloom vine, Torchwood + Pea vine, Pumpkin, etc. So that challenge might be too easy.
I never seen anyone beat the game with only plants from ancient Egypt (Tutorial plants, Plants you unlock in ancient egypt, & every plant available in the piñatas)
Literally only Shine-Vine, Gloom-Vine and Pea-Vine buff their respective family. No other vine. Plus Pumpkin was added with the other vines. Specifically the second vine added
Wouldn't 14 be possible with grave buster instead? Also meaning you would be able to use a viney plant and get sun? Just an idea if u ever make a update.
8:45 this is actually not true. Plants being automatically charged at the start of a level is simply a property every plant has access to, as every plant has "PacketCooldown" and "StartingCooldown" as attributes that can be set to anything, including zero. Shine (Sun) Vine simply never got a StartingCooldown of 0, like the other sun producers, but it's definitely still classified AS a sun producer as it does basically nothing else. Basically, what I'm saying is, this was an extremely intentional choice by the developers (I'd be more concerned if they pushed a bunch of new plants and none of them had a starting cooldown, as that would mean they forgot to define one) - the only question is why they would make such a weak sun producer so expensive and not give it an instant starting cooldown, unless it's just to keep it in parity with other vines i guess?
Nerd emoji: Um, acktualy, Pumpkin is considered a member of the Vine Plants in the Chinese version of PvZ 2- *baseball bat* SHU- lol, anyway, jokes aside, banger video
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How is this video 35 minutes ago, but these comments are an hour later?
@@pvzgamerlegisniana6492Because the video was unlisted, meaning people could comment on the video before it was public.
THERES 2 OF THEM
You know what's hilarious? Aqua Vine now exists and I'm pretty sure It could solo big wave beach.
Yeah cry😂 he really could have waited 1 year 😂
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Isn't pumpkin technically a vine?
1: it's always included with the vine families
2:pumpkin would most likely be the vine for defensive plants, considering that most plant families have at least one vine.
3: I know it doesn't have the vine name, but it does have virtually the same attributes as an vine plant. In fact, I think pumpkin was the plant to inspire vine plants to come.
It did inspire the whole vine family
@@averagealiencosplayer4363 pumpkin is a vine, which explains why you can't place it on vines
@@averagealiencosplayer4363 it has the health of a talnut(i think?) So its better at defence
it is a vine
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I dont know if anyone has remembered, but lily pad functionally counts as the vine for the Contain-Mint family. it can be placed on top of other plants (but only on wet sand and water tiles, both exclusive to big wave beach) and will trigger its plant food (spawn 4 lily pads in a + pattern and heals lily pads if they were already there) when the plant on it has its plant food ability triggered.
Yeah but according to the rules lily pad doesn’t have vine in it making it banned but if this rule weren’t in place it would also apply to pumpkin
@@anonymousanonymous4574does that means pumpkin isn't a vine plants variant
@@duckfishron6486 it's the original vine plant, it's just that the rules of this challenge are not the same as the actual classification. Lily Pad and Gardening Pot are fringe cases since they don't wrap around a plant, they just act as ground.
i'm pretty sure bwb day 28 might be possible if blastberry vine was used. if i recall, the plant can deal with snorkel zombies as they're lobbing plants. lobbing plants can hit them.
Yeah since Lobbing Plants can hit any zombie over and obstacle and as it’s not a straight shooter, it can easy deal with Snorkel and also occasionally hit other zombies
I always thought pumpkin was the enforcement vine, and it definitely is in spirit. It makes sense for it to be different in the way it is.
Note that reinforcemint and enforcemint are different families
And pumpkins are vines, I believe pumpkin is the reason the vine family exists in the first place too
Pumpkin was a vine before vines existed
The original vine. PvZ
But explodo-vine is just better
Tip for Sylvia: Next time in BWB, use blastberry vine. They can kill snorkel zombies with their passive.
Lol
Try beating the game with only using 14 plants
Now scence there are 14 families, you get 1 plant of your choice for each family
Here is my recommended loadout
Fila mint plant- Electric Peashooter
Pepper mint plant- Meteor Flower
Winter mint plant- Chilly Pepper
Enlighten mint plant- Sun shroom
Bombard mint plant- Explode o' Vine
Reinforce mint plant- Holly Barrier
Enchant mint plant- Imitator
Enforce mint plant- Rhubarbarian
Ail mint plant- Nightcap
Conceal mint plant- Shadow shroom
Appease mint plant- Bowling Bulb
Arma mint plant- Stickybomb rice
Spear mint plant- Pokra
Contain mint plant- Lily pad
That's just a recommendation, but you can change it if you want.
Rules:
1. No leveling up plants
2. No power ups.
3. For Dark Ages 14 you can use Sun bean
4. You can plant food for ability and recharging plants
I would like to see this challenge.
Good luck if you attempt it!
I’ll definitely look into it, that seems like it could be really interesting!
Well, pokra solos like half the game on its own
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Fact: did you know that pea vine boosts bowling bulb? It actually does because bowling bulb is in the appease-mint family
You do realize that Grave Buster is technically a vine since his body is literally made of vines and he wraps himself on the graves.
"Everything else that *wraps* other plants does not means its a vine plant"
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Not like it would've been any useful anyways
@@MarkiplierMeatMuncher8 high level ones can break surf boards in big wave beach
@@Emethistt rule 2, only level 1
@@EmethisttHe can’t level up plants either
Didn’t expect that outcome! Very nice video per usual Sylvia ❤
Can you beat Pvz 2 by only using zombies? (Hypno shoom, caulipower, enchant mint, solar sage, sun bean, and the plant that turns zombies into ice shields.) .
Zomboid and the ice shield thing is ice bloom
@@kboyq they aren't zombies they are plants
@@A_Professional_Gooberzomboid spawns plant zombies, so doesn't count, and yeah, Ice bloom thx.
@@barbarreto8534 ok
Pumpkin being vine plant category of Reinforce-Mint family yet got discriminated for not being very vine just made my day
Lilly pad technically is but... it's lilly pad
@@DragonTheOneDZA if lilly pad is a vine then why can you place vines on it?
Now this is high quality content m8, hope to see more in the future chap :D
11:49 have you tried blastberry vine on the snorkel zombies?
Vines look so much more diffrent from any other plants seeing a peashooter feels like a fever dream
You’d think blastberry vine would solve that tricky big wave beach world…
Pumpkim is technically also an vine, since you can put another plant (except other vines) so you should used it on this challenge
Just listen to the RULES, is it that hard?
Needs vine in name
idea for challenge: Can I beat pvz2 with only plants that cost doesn't exceed 25 sun.
Like, you use ONLY plants that cost 25 sun or less.
“You see shine vine refreshes like every other plant in a start of a game”
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You should do this again with aqua-vine, it can really help you survive plenty of levels without having to spam explodo-vines, especially since planting aqua-vine on the ground causes it to knock back zombies it hits
For a frame in 9:28 it says, “Gw2 is fun. But it’s maps suck”
I would have thought blastberry vine world be good I mean it does an area-of-effect attack that does decent damage.
Also I think it can hit snorkels because it's a lobing plant
i love this video i like these kind of challenges!
Pumpkins are vines, and function just like the other vine plants, so you could have used them if u needed some stalll or anything
Fun vid
Yo this content is genuinely good. Great job man. You sound like a true professional.
6:00 WHATS THE MUSIC HERE
Its pizza tower music from the level refrigerator freezerator
@@kopian4specifically celcius troubles
It tells you
It's in the top left
It’s likely just getting the vines are going to be difficult itself
Hey Sylvia, just wanna say I love your content. You’re incredibly positive and one of the only content creators in the community who actually seems to love BFN just as much as I do. But here’s a little question, how come in all of your older videos people refer to you as Xavier? I can’t find the video where the name switched over, and since you don’t have an X page I can’t really get to know you better, so if you get a chance to reply please help with my confusion.
So, I’ll give an honest answer for this because I frankly doubt that any of my family is gonna notice it:
I used to go by XavierYSI, and it was actually my real name. Now with that being said, I also came to a realization about myself a few months ago, that I was trans.
So, I decided to basically completely redo any intro I made and stuff along those lines to fit the name that I go by now. But because it’s sometimes too painful for me to even look at the times I called myself my old name, I privated any intro where I did so, which is why there’s no smooth transition anywhere within my videos.
Most people still don’t know about that trans part, so it feels weird for me to explain it on YT. I promise you, if you ever caught me in Floral Federation, it would be MUCH more obvious. Well, I hope that clears things up for you
@@SylviaYSI okay, thank you. That’s around what I assumed, but I felt being presumptuous might’ve been rude if I was wrong in some way. I wish you the best!
Explod-o-vine is the absolute game changer. Love that vine.
Someone who actually shows the music used? Subscribed!
Pumpkin fits the description of what you said about the vines, it is around the plant and buffs them, specifically it buffs their defence
I wonder if for the level to not lose plants if you can using the trowel counts as losing the plant.
aww i was expecting pumpkin since hes technichally a defense mint vine, but its fine still a great video!
If only this was made 3 months later where the aquavine was introduced
Who here thinks Sun Bean is underrated?
Me! Awesome sun ramper in jurrastic marsh
I feel like that plant got overshadowed more than ever, once solar sage was put into the game
@@Smith-fg1qb don’t even get me started on Solar sage, you’re basically one-shoting a group of zombies for the cost of 0 sun
It's basically "oh cool a zombie will a ridiculous amount of health let me gain 12 billion sun"
@@DragonTheOneDZAwhich ones buddy, knight helmets give around 200 sun, and to defend against them you need more than 200 sun
Vine Boom
Do It For The Vine
[insert a third vine related joke here]
10:33 Is dungeon freakshow actually the 3ds theme shop music?
I am assuming you did but did you try blast berry vine for big wave beach 28?
in some cases generous in some makes it not a challenge for example 1 the locked and half loaded lvls should still be only vines(not a challenge example) 2 u should be able to lvl up plants but only vines as it is the actual mechanic of this game same for zen garden (generous example)
Okay I get the thing with blastberry since it’s dps literally required the entire row to be full to maximize and there isn’t really a tank for it to be effective
But what about pea vine? Isn’t that just an upgraded peashooter?
Given that the 50 sun meta means you can skip straight to Repeater at the start of a level, Peashooter simply isn't a good plant.
Also note that the ability of Pea Vine is that any Pea plant placed inside it get buffed, so this challenge doesn't get to use half of the plant.
Pea vine is actually just incredibly overpowered on its own one of the highest dps plants in the game
Pumpkin: I WAS HERE BEFORE ALL OF YOU! I AM THE OG VINE! YOU ARE IMITATERS! IMITATERSSSS!!
Would bwb be possible if you could actually use pumpkin? Pumpkin's like the vine for defense plants even though it doesn't have vine aspects because it's from pvz1
I think the impossible level in Big Wave Beach is now possible because they added aqua vine
I'd suggest a genuine support plants only challenge, but that would mean that you'd be using stuff like Moonglow + Gloom vine, Torchwood + Pea vine, Pumpkin, etc. So that challenge might be too easy.
As someone whi stopped playing this game in 2018, i had no clue these plants existed
Um, I'm not familiar with the vines... but wouldn't blastberry be able to deal with snorkel zombies? Or, does that not lob projectiles?
You should’ve use pumpkin as a substitute for some kind of defence vine
For dark ages, I think it’s fair to use grave buster. It clearly resembles a vine.
I never seen anyone beat the game with only plants from ancient Egypt (Tutorial plants, Plants you unlock in ancient egypt, & every plant available in the piñatas)
It's really strange that Gloom-Shroom doesn't exist in this game, but Gloom-Vine does.
Idk if you did it before but is it possible to complete pvz2 using only instant plants?
I’ve never tried it before, actually. That is a really fun idea though, maybe I’ll try it in the future!
@@SylviaYSI yea I’m actually trying to do it in endless
It's possible to beat a few levels using only wall plants, so it may be possible to do it with instas.
fun fact out of all vines pumpkin is a vine like
can plant plants inside it:✅
is circular:✅
premium:✅
Has vine in the name ✖️
Functions like vines do ✖️
6:56 you used 3 vines but correct if I’m wrong but shouldn’t you only have 2 without seed packet?
Popcap should make a vine plant that floats on water like a lily pad.
BOY HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU
Sunbean exception for DA 15 is perfectly fine. Just act like it’s a temporary shine vine replacement
I think it's ironic how the second I exit this video when he says that it's impossible, a short about the aqua vine just pops up in my face
We now got aqua vine :D great vid btw
Some of them are quite powerful (some even very powerful) and pretty versatile, so id guess it probably is.
You could've just considered pumpkin and lily pad as a vine (because they function as one). Maybe then it could've been possible?
shouldn't blastberry vine be able to take care of snorkel zombies since lobbed projectiles can hit them?
Pumpkin isn't a vine because
1. It doesn't have a vine in the name
2. It doesn't look like a vine
3. It doesn't buff its own plant family only
Literally only Shine-Vine, Gloom-Vine and Pea-Vine buff their respective family. No other vine. Plus Pumpkin was added with the other vines. Specifically the second vine added
Wouldn't 14 be possible with grave buster instead? Also meaning you would be able to use a viney plant and get sun? Just an idea if u ever make a update.
It will have all vine plants
Pumpkin: are you shiting me
Reasons you should have played this in a later update:
1: Big Wave Beach has become easier
2: Aqua Vine has the ability to be planted on water
*sniff* *sniff* I SMELL AN UNDERRATED TH-camR
Does Blastberry vine not target snorkel zombies? I thought most Bombard-mint plants did.
i loved this video this is such a good idea
“I feel like people havent really pushed these plants limits”
Arenas players: *cute*
Pretty good video! I was gonna question why Pumpkin was not in the video then I looked at the Vine Plant category. still a great video either way!
explode o vine is my main dps in endless zones. pair with...... ofc explde o nut!
Anything can be a vine if you vine on it enough
This guy's underrated!
8:45 this is actually not true. Plants being automatically charged at the start of a level is simply a property every plant has access to, as every plant has "PacketCooldown" and "StartingCooldown" as attributes that can be set to anything, including zero. Shine (Sun) Vine simply never got a StartingCooldown of 0, like the other sun producers, but it's definitely still classified AS a sun producer as it does basically nothing else. Basically, what I'm saying is, this was an extremely intentional choice by the developers (I'd be more concerned if they pushed a bunch of new plants and none of them had a starting cooldown, as that would mean they forgot to define one) - the only question is why they would make such a weak sun producer so expensive and not give it an instant starting cooldown, unless it's just to keep it in parity with other vines i guess?
You deserve more subs i see yters that are STILL doing 3am videos with MILLIONS of subscribers
there is a plant found in the games code for a vine that can be placed on water, so maybe you can revisit the impossible bwb levels and try them again
Why didn’t you use blastberry to deal with the snorkels?
Its kinda expensive and gloom and pyre vine is just better
grave buster:" why are we here just to suffer?"
starting with every vine just makes the challenge a normal playthrough
Big wave beach would be so easier now that we have aqua vine. I learned why it’s added now.
Nerd emoji: Um, acktualy, Pumpkin is considered a member of the Vine Plants in the Chinese version of PvZ 2-
*baseball bat* SHU-
lol, anyway, jokes aside, banger video
This challenge would have been easier with aqua vine isn’t it 😂
we need a winter-themed vine
**VINE BOOM SOUND EFFECTS**
Sylvia how do you always have the plant that you need for the challenge do you just get them when their in the arena or how?
Only vines... then proceeds to completely ignore Aqua wine on big wave beach
This video was made before aqua Vine was released
When he was transitioning to the frostbite lost and future what was that music? I really wanna know
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@@roecatgaming i dont know the answer, just trying to help them out :)
You play very well, your planting method is very calculated
Ok I just need to ask though, how do you even get the vines the seed packet plants honestly were a mistake
Aqua vine may have helped in big wave beach
The perfect music picks
great video! interesting challenge, surprised it was mostly possible
8:04 ok i 100% wanna know this song name
It’s in the corner
Hey, Genuine question-
How or where are you playing this? I want to play PVZ2 but everything is saying it’s mobile only.
Soon a aqua based vine released maybe its possible with it you can place it on water and is an attacking plant
Yo Sylvia, how did you install pvz 2 on pc?
I love your pvz videos
We need more vines
@AzureWolf168 hi :)
We need a contain mint vine
I wish they would make an Ice Vine, that’d be fun to have
@@SylviaYSI Exactly my thoughts
@@SylviaYSI It could be different
What are the vines that are exactly like gloomShroom
Gloom Vine
@@WhittyYT thx
The vine plants are really good on my opinion