Andrea Moda: Knowingly sent a driver to race with a broken steering wheel and it almost caused a colossal accident. That's not cheating. It's criminal.
could have easily been fatal, Senna’s car had a faulty steering column which theoretically broke mid corner and killed him, and that Eau Rouge/Raidillon corner is high speed, absolutely attempted murder if they sent him out knowing his steering was broken
Funny thing is that they actually did that in the 2018 Japanese Gp qualifying(Q3). Ferrari sent their drivers on the wets anticipating rain, but it didn't rain for the first 3 minutes of the session so the other drivers on the track set their laps on slicks. Then ferrari went in the pits for slicks and it started raining. Kimi could barely get a lap in while Seb qualified 10th.
Vettel have not been delivering for a long time, if he goes to racing point or whatever he will not be doing any better. I bet that this will be his last season in F1 because he knows that he is no longer a podium contender regardless of what team he is driving for.
@@hanse81 I agree that Seb has not been delivering best results for some time now, specially wheel to wheel. But he is still not all that old, younger than Lewis actually and has time to reinvent himself. Hopefully his career would end on a high.
The biggest F1 punishment I have ever heard of was after Senna's fatal crash at Imola. Adrian Newey, the chief designer at the time, and a few other high ranking team members were charged with *murder* . The court case went on for a few years and the charges were eventually dropped, but it was still a massive scandal.
Sorry for replying a year later, but actually the charges brought against Adrian Newey and Patrick Head after Senna's death weren't launched by the FIA or F1 itself. Because Senna allegedly died on track, the italian law allowed to press charges for murder against Williams' crew and directors on behalf of the italian state. The case actually went ahead, Head and Newey initially were both acquitted, then the case was re-opened but eventually was dropped because it had prescribed after 5 years.
I was rooting for Hamilton at the start of the season... But wasn't happy at the end. I notice that while I mention Massa along with the champions, many people forgot about him. So that one point made a huge difference.
Imagine being Rubens, leading a race from pole and having to give up the lead to your teammate on the final lap while still in title contention, and then getting fined for said teammate ushering you to the top step of the podium... FeelsBarrichelloMan
Beyond that, imagine being mentored by Ayrton Senna, watch him die during your second year of competition, then working your way up from lower teams and getting a seat at Ferrari just to have your teammate be literally the best of all time and be forced to sit in his shadow during what should have been the height of your career. Barrichello has to be one of the unluckiest of all time. I hope the same thing doesn’t happen to Bottas.
@@SubiefanWRXsti Barrichello was actually one of the drivers to have a serious crash the weekend Senna was killed, Rubens being the lucky one to survive
@@corbinselanne7990 That's an excellent point, I forgot about that. Hopefully he was spared the trauma of seeing Senna's crash from the hospital although even if he did, it seems he wouldn't have remembered it. I read somewhere that his concussion was so bad that he didn't remember going to Senna's funeral.
Spygate and Crashgate weren't his fault, Vettel has been involved in controversies, Hamilton has, Kimi had problems with Lotus in 2013, Magnussen and the like my balls to Hulkenberg, Perez and Ocon in 2017, Russell last year because some people said that his car was different than Kubica's, Verstappen and Ocon in Brasil, Kvyat in 2016...
Actually the 2008 incident in Singapore was karma for Ferrari. If Massa did not finish 15th because of the safety car that was deliberately caused by Renault, Massa and not Hamilton would have won the 2008 World championship which would have been completely undeserved for Massa and Ferrari because Ferrari petitioned the FIA to dock 25 seconds to Lewis in the Belgian GP even though Kimi crashed his car on his own thus Lewis did not gain an adantage over Kimi
As they say in the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing, “...if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’...” Honestly, with the amount of risk that teams are willing to take in order to get a rival team information, it makes me think this is not at all uncommon.
No its not he wasnt seriously injured. If you think a tiny crash would go for attempted murder. Watch Pedro Diniz accident in a Prost at Spa 1998 or 99. 320km/h into a barrier just before the fast corner. Impact sensors measured it at 45 odd G. AND THAT was a racing incident.
@@The.Drunk-Koala attempted murder does not require the victim to be harmed at all. It just requires that someone takes action with the intent of killing the victim.
@@The.Drunk-Koala they purposely tried to hurt him to bring another driver in, because they couldnt fire drivers anymore for the season, thats attempted murder, sending out someone in a quick f1 car, with not alot of safety measures at the time, with a broken steering wheel is attempted murder.
Maybe disqualifying McLaren for the 2008 season would've dampened viewers interest in the 2008 season too much? Which probably would be bad for his company's TV rights' revenue
@@kotaro169 yeah but what can FIA do now? Disqufling them entrily is too harsh, so they fined them amount they would spend to make new brake ducts and ho much performance they gained from them.
@@spacewombat4569 the problem isn't really the brake ducts, it's the whole car design. the brake ducts just illustrate they copied the 2019 Mercedes since its an interior part(illegal), rather than use pictures of the exterior and reverse engineer it(legal)
NASCAR team used the "lead shot" method as well. The cars are tube chassis, they filled up the chassis tubes with BB's & had a secret button to release them making the car lighter. It worked well until a driver accidentally hit the button on pit road & released 1000's of BB's on pit lane in front of an race official
It's not without precedent, in Monaco 1996, Eddie Irvine stalled the engine while battling eventual race winner Olivier Panis. He initially undid his belts, but marshalls moved him from where the car had stopped, it was a difficult location to recover the car, and he was able to bump start the engine back to life. But because he undid his belts, he was sitting loosely in his seat, so pitted to have the belts done up again
7:25 „since then no world championship has been decided by a collision“ Oh boy, Abu Dhabi coming up this weekend, Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton with the same amount of points. Oh boy Oh boy
Regarding the spying Ferrari, two Italian engineers gave info to two teams other than McLaren, one of which was Toyota and IIRC, the other was Renault but I do stand to be corrected. The FIA knew this. Neither team manager acted like Dennis (who called in the FIA the moment he found out about it) yet neither team got any punishment. Watch Aidan Millward's video on it. It's eye-opening. Oh yes, neither engineer or mechanic or whatever they were, were sacked.
toyota and renault as far as we know didnt make simulator tests based on ferrari data or know ahead of time when the ferrari drivers were going to pit while mclaren did
saturn185 I would assume Toyota tried, just didn’t understand how to read the data. Biggest budget on the grid and brought home a handful of trophies that weren’t wins.
How was this (video) in any way related to Vettel? You do know that getting likes on TH-cam comments doesn't count for much. So stop being so hateful to him.
Some of the commenter are not a fan of Takuma Sato? He's a quality racer, was exciting to watch during his F1 outings, an engaging and genial interview, and a 2x Indy winner. That last one puts him in rare company indeed. He is certainly no Senna, Fangio, Schumacher, or Hamilton (or Clark or Prost or Stewart or Vettel, but you get the point...) but he is probably the greatest Japanese racer in history, a country with immense pedigree and a real love for motorsport. He found his level on the world stage, and has had a very long and successful career. I'd put his career accolades in the ballpark of drivers like Webber or Coulthard. Mostly because of his Oval track success, but he drove pretty well in his F1 days too! Many happy Sundays watching him, and shows no signs of quitting yet! The Sato's of the world are under appreciated in their time, but beloved in retrospect.
The way Renault were treated by the FIA court as part of the investigation into Crashgate, smells of all the wrong things. It's like Ted Kravitz said, "... This wasn't spying on other teams or lying to the Stewards, this was endangering spectators, marshalls and his own safety," by rights, Renault should have been excluded if they had been McLaren for example. There was some karma in a sense though, quoting Ted Kravitz again, "(...) The team may have got off lightly in the FIA court, but Renault have been hit in the pocket, by the immediate withdrawal of title sponsor ING. The financial services company didn't want to be associated with a team that cheats,"
If you mean this years Racing Point then that is a different situation as they were given the part by Mercedes, rather than taking it from them like mclaren did. Still a bit harsh tho
McLaren committed corporate espionage and stole information worth tens of millions of dollars directly from their closest rival. How is that at all similar to anything in recent years? The fact that the fine was so low and the team weren't banned for several years is honestly surprising to me.
I think they got let off very lightly and they should have got the initial penalty proposed by Mosely - the drivers were still allowed to drive the same cars that year and the following year which could have benefited from the spying. Fortunately neither of them won in 2007, but given how close 2008 was some illegally obtained Ferrari data could have contributed the tiny but to make that a winning car
Can you explain how entering the out lane before the safety car helps? I haven't seen many races just started watching end of last year and I'm confused
Andrea Moda even once sent McCarthy out with an ill-fitted seat at Monaco, meaning he was being thrown around the cockpit and seeing double the whole lap, hence his fastest time was so woefully slow that a competitive runner could easily jog round the circuit faster. It's also worth noting that McCarthy was initially refused a super licence at Brazil, and that around the time of the next race in Spain, Enrico Bertaggia had approached the team with around $1M of sponsorship money for a race seat, but the FIA blocked any more driver substitutions within the team. It was at this point that Sasseti ignored the Brit's entry in an attempt to get him to quit, hence he could bring in Bertaggia.
The only time I have honestly ever lost control in a blind rage was from a mechanic knowingly putting a driveshaft with bad universal bearings on my Impala. If it had been a control system part that was known to be unserviceable and it failed.. there wouldn't be enough people in the shop to save him and pull me off.
Lord Mahaveer Maldonado and Nico pulled his own crash (in his sole championship year) when he intentionally pinned Lewis in one of those “I was just late turning...” excuses. These guys can be volition, and it seems German drivers are more prone to it (think Seb bumping wheels with Lewis).
To elaborate on 5:36: If I recall correctly, the other teams were trying to make turbo engines mandatory, but they needed unanimous approval, and Tyrrell refused to budge. Their disqualification, however, conveniently meant that their approval was no longer needed, and turbo engines thus became mandatory for 1985. I'm not suggesting that Tyrrell were disqualified for the sole purpose of getting the rule change pushed through, but Ken Tyrrell certainly believed that.
The argument that Alonso wouldn’t have gone along with such a crazy strategy is stupid because Ferrari still go ahead with their strategies and there anything but sane
In the days of Stepneygate, I had contacts in F1. I used to run fanzines and was friends with someone high up in a company that sponsored both Tyrell and McLaren. All were outraged by Mosley's actions against McLaren, particularly the fact that they found virtually nothing against them despite the massive amount of data they had. Mosley had to accept that Dennis had not deleted anything. The suggestion of the brakes was straw-grabbing at best. Further, the 'apology', written by lawyers of course, was more or less a pleasantly worded rejection of the findings of the enquiry. I had a friend, an F1 nerd and compliance lawyer, who said that it was a classic non-apology, indicative of the quality of their lawyers. Nothing in it could be picked up by Mosley to justify - although Mosley needed little justification for any action he took - punishing McLaren, or should I be specific and say Dennis, further. It's a terrible indictment of Modely's tenure as the boss of the sport that he fined McL that amount but for the team that nearly burnt down the German pit lane, there was very little in the way of sanctions. There were two people involved, one from McLaren and one from Ferrari, in offering information for employment down the pitlane. McLaren got turned over and Ferrari - well, we're still waiting for what's going to happen to them. What info did Coughlan take from McL? A small point, but I think indicative of the man, is that Hamilton rejected immunity. The only people there was any evidence against were Alonso and de la Rossa, and they got off scot free. All water under the bridge now, but it's best to get the facts straight. I downloaded the result of the FIA's enquiry the day it was published, complete with redacted bits. My friendly lawyer phoned me to say that all one had to do to reveal the redacted parts was to change the colouring in Word. Quite an error, but as it was down to Mosley's FIA it was allowed. We've now got Todt in charge. The FIA gets no direct income from F1, Mosley stopped that for reasons unexplained, but despite that, he's doing a much better job than either of the two previous incumbents. He doesn't do much. That's a vast improvement.
I'm still confused about the racing point saga, so they were fined and docked points, which suggests they have been found guilty of a breach but they're still running the same brake ducts..? Presumably then so long as you pay the fine you can keep breaking that same rule for the rest of the season penalty free?
Yes, apparently they wouldn't be able to make new brake ducts because of their knowledge about the Mercedes' parts (BS, because as you saw in the video McLaren made a championship winning car after the spygate without any Ferrari parts)
They can still use the brake ducts because the are legal from a technical standpoint. The technical regulations state how the ducts have to look and everything and RPs are fine with this. What's wrong is the way they developed them, and that falls under the sporting regulations. And that's what they got the punishment for. And it's quite difficult to erase the knowledge about the brake ducts from the brains of the engineers making it difficult to find a good solution.
Hamilton didn't lose any drivers championship points that year because of it. and Kimi had 1 more retirement than Hamilton. If anything Ferrari let down kimi with reliability issues making his championship fight harder.
@@doghat1619 exactly. Hamilton was no innocent lamb that year either. The thing in Hungary (qualification) was caused by Hamilton himself by disregarding team orders. Alonso then let him "wait" at the pits.
@@benn87 How is Hamilton the guilty party there? Aren't team orders UNIVERSALLY hated by the fans? I'm not a fan of Hamilton, I hate the guy honestly but I have some respect for him for not sitting down and being a #2 driver in his rookie year. Alonso was petty and his actions show exactly what kind of man he is.
Team orders being illegal is the weirdest rule of them all. You drive in tandem for a team (making it a team sport) why can"t the team order a driver to pass? Messi: I got the ball Koeman: score a goal Messi: I am at the circle Koeman: Pass Messi: Nope, team orders.
Because it's different. In football there's no big title for scoring the post points, and it's impossible to judge players against eahc other as each one has a different position and objective for the team. In Racing, the drivers are competiting individually, and together. So every team wants to finish with a 1-2, but every driver wants that 1 to be them. Also, because it simply makes for boring viewing. To see drivers not race for the lead and instead slow down and let their biggest rival, their team mate, pass is boring for spectators. and if F1 becomes boring people will stop watching.
I disagree the water dumping was "completely legal" because the minimum weight rule goes for the full race not just the moment its weighted... so if you at any point fall below it you are technically racing illegally
15:32 McCarthy's Spanish GP story was a freaking joke!! His mechanics went to a party the night before, went directly to the circuit without calling Perry, the driver arrived to the circuit with the session already under way, and then his engine first caught fire in the garage and then broke completely just 50 metres after getting out to the pit lane
What about last years Ferrari (2019)? Then determined to be 'the most powerful' and close to winning, then suddenly a fuel sensor issue. In 2020, lucky to make Q3. LUL. Ferrari routinely cheat.
Whilst "team orders" were not illegal, it could be quite easily seen as match fixing as it is clear that the natural result of the competition is being influenced which is not only illegal by the rules of the FIA but is also a criminal act in many countries.
7:12 This concern is actually pretty real right now in germany since illegal street racing was a thing over the last few years in Berlin. In a recent case, 2 drivers where racing each other at 170km/h (almost 3.5 times the speedlimit of 50km/h) and running over 13 red lights. One of them hit a crossing driver and killed him. Both drivers got charged with murder. So charging Schumacher with at least attempted assault isnt that far fetched, since he put up with the other driver getting hurt.
I had never heard of Andrea Moda, that's crazy. I'm all for making the sport more accessible for the less wealthy, but giving a driver a broken steering wheel could be straight up seen as murder, IMO.
2:41 "Mosley joked" I don't think it was meant to be a joke. Ron Dennis wasn't the ...errr... most likeable person in the paddock, and mutual disdain between him and Mosley was almost palpable ^^'
@@fuckfirefox5114 Like what? Are you talking about 2019? Because then half of your comment doesn't make sense, as surprise surprise Max Mosley stepped down as FIA president in 2009.
09:31 Brazillians calls this moment "Hoje sim, Hoje sim... hoje nãoooo" = "Its Today, Its Today... NOOOOOOT today" (in free translation), due to the emotion of the narrator in the last corner of the race. I was just a kid, but I remember how angry I felt in that moment kkkkk
@@user-gz8ty9sh9d oh now your first comment makes more sense! but don't worry, the hormones will level out in a couple of years, untill then, try to focus more on your school and homeworks:)
Just what I needed after this day to make it a bit better. Formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!
Andrea Moda: Knowingly sent a driver to race with a broken steering wheel and it almost caused a colossal accident. That's not cheating. It's criminal.
I never even knew about that and was shocked to hear it in this video. I'd sue them for attempted murder for that!
Yeah, I've read the whole saga before but forgot about this entirely. It takes the story from shambolic to they tried to kill the damn guy
could have easily been fatal, Senna’s car had a faulty steering column which theoretically broke mid corner and killed him, and that Eau Rouge/Raidillon corner is high speed, absolutely attempted murder if they sent him out knowing his steering was broken
@@theredguy8746 and the guy the try to murder is stig
@@firdausrahman6424 Wait really?! I assume this was the original Stig? Back when he wore black instead of white?
Imagine forgetting to bring an engine to a Formula 1 Grand Prix...
*Flintstone's intensifies*
@@tomgeraets6484 I agree
Ferrari 2020: Hmmm, that’s an interesting strategy.
Sounds like something I would do. Smh
certified bruh moment
Alonso also reveals that Ferrari took this year's engine from the 2015 McLaren.
Lies, it's from the 2006 Super Aguri
lmaoooo
GP2 engine eh
😂😂😂
HulkenbergF1 I like your name
Andrea Moda: Sends their 2nd driver to qualify on wet tires in the dry
Sebastian Vettel in a 2020 Ferrari: Sweating profusely
The worst part about that is that would actually be plausible considering the situation with Seb and Ferrari
Funny thing is that they actually did that in the 2018 Japanese Gp qualifying(Q3). Ferrari sent their drivers on the wets anticipating rain, but it didn't rain for the first 3 minutes of the session so the other drivers on the track set their laps on slicks. Then ferrari went in the pits for slicks and it started raining. Kimi could barely get a lap in while Seb qualified 10th.
Vettel have not been delivering for a long time, if he goes to racing point or whatever he will not be doing any better.
I bet that this will be his last season in F1 because he knows that he is no longer a podium contender regardless of what team he is driving for.
@@hanse81 Vettel is also being given the short end of the stick by his own team.
@@hanse81 I agree that Seb has not been delivering best results for some time now, specially wheel to wheel. But he is still not all that old, younger than Lewis actually and has time to reinvent himself. Hopefully his career would end on a high.
2002 Ferrari: makes stupid team orders
2019 ferrari: “time to go back to tradition bois”
Mattattaka lol
without that .... 2008 from renault... Massa would have been champion. Still a shame!
@@johnlim509 you literally copy paste the top comment
@@johnlim509 If it wasn't for Glock going slowly had Interlagos which Hamilron benefited for
As other main teams always did
The biggest F1 punishment I have ever heard of was after Senna's fatal crash at Imola. Adrian Newey, the chief designer at the time, and a few other high ranking team members were charged with *murder* . The court case went on for a few years and the charges were eventually dropped, but it was still a massive scandal.
Sorry for replying a year later, but actually the charges brought against Adrian Newey and Patrick Head after Senna's death weren't launched by the FIA or F1 itself.
Because Senna allegedly died on track, the italian law allowed to press charges for murder against Williams' crew and directors on behalf of the italian state.
The case actually went ahead, Head and Newey initially were both acquitted, then the case was re-opened but eventually was dropped because it had prescribed after 5 years.
without that .... 2008 from renault... Massa would have been champion. Still a shame!
@smokinjoe11, so kind of a champion
I was rooting for Hamilton at the start of the season... But wasn't happy at the end.
I notice that while I mention Massa along with the champions, many people forgot about him. So that one point made a huge difference.
By my calculations, we won the championship by 1 point
@@rafaelbelani6380 did you read my comment? And we? You had no involvement..
@@rafaelbelani6380 the quote was in 2007, not 2008.
When racing point got fined 400.000€ it was like punishing a kid by locking him at his room for one minute
I wish I was funded €400,000
Matteo oops better now?
@@matteo2297 their budget is around $110m, about the smallest budget in F1. This is not a poor person's sport.
Dont think so mate. It has impact on sponsors aswell they aint happy
But that 15 points docking cost them 3rd place on the constructor's championship though
Normally I forget my homework but imagine forgetting an engine 😂😂
Mate wait till you forget to roll your sleeves up while washing the dishes.
chelsea ten Kleij same
The Drunk Koala I’ll just were a short sleeve t-shirt
Favorite part is how Alonso is somehow involved in so many scandals and still coming back. Gotta love Fernando
Alonso is in the 70% of them hahaha
@Mclaren Honda he's controversial and Hamilton, vettel and even Kimi are better
and his friend Briatore
2/10 is 70%? Lol
Schumacher seems to be apart of a lot as well!
Imagine being Rubens, leading a race from pole and having to give up the lead to your teammate on the final lap while still in title contention, and then getting fined for said teammate ushering you to the top step of the podium...
FeelsBarrichelloMan
Beyond that, imagine being mentored by Ayrton Senna, watch him die during your second year of competition, then working your way up from lower teams and getting a seat at Ferrari just to have your teammate be literally the best of all time and be forced to sit in his shadow during what should have been the height of your career. Barrichello has to be one of the unluckiest of all time. I hope the same thing doesn’t happen to Bottas.
@@SubiefanWRXsti Barrichello was actually one of the drivers to have a serious crash the weekend Senna was killed, Rubens being the lucky one to survive
@@corbinselanne7990 That's an excellent point, I forgot about that. Hopefully he was spared the trauma of seeing Senna's crash from the hospital although even if he did, it seems he wouldn't have remembered it. I read somewhere that his concussion was so bad that he didn't remember going to Senna's funeral.
And people still call Lewis a dirty driver lol
Mechanics admitted they had to make his car slower
So basically we should be really worried that Alonso is back because of the amount of controversies he is involved with
Spygate and Crashgate weren't his fault, Vettel has been involved in controversies, Hamilton has, Kimi had problems with Lotus in 2013, Magnussen and the like my balls to Hulkenberg, Perez and Ocon in 2017, Russell last year because some people said that his car was different than Kubica's, Verstappen and Ocon in Brasil, Kvyat in 2016...
@@AERO.101 F1 is no honour among thieves
Actually the 2008 incident in Singapore was karma for Ferrari. If Massa did not finish 15th because of the safety car that was deliberately caused by Renault, Massa and not Hamilton would have won the 2008 World championship which would have been completely undeserved for Massa and Ferrari because Ferrari petitioned the FIA to dock 25 seconds to Lewis in the Belgian GP even though Kimi crashed his car on his own thus Lewis did not gain an adantage over Kimi
As they say in the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing, “...if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’...” Honestly, with the amount of risk that teams are willing to take in order to get a rival team information, it makes me think this is not at all uncommon.
@Mclaren Honda "matchfixing is not cheating"
You heard it here first, folks.
Sending someone into an f1 race with a broken steering wheel isn’t worthy of a penalty, that’s surely attempted murder
No its not he wasnt seriously injured. If you think a tiny crash would go for attempted murder. Watch Pedro Diniz accident in a Prost at Spa 1998 or 99.
320km/h into a barrier just before the fast corner. Impact sensors measured it at 45 odd G. AND THAT was a racing incident.
@TheWeeaboo I think you need to go to bed.
@@The.Drunk-Koala attempted murder does not require the victim to be harmed at all. It just requires that someone takes action with the intent of killing the victim.
@@The.Drunk-Koala you dumb?
@@The.Drunk-Koala they purposely tried to hurt him to bring another driver in, because they couldnt fire drivers anymore for the season, thats attempted murder, sending out someone in a quick f1 car, with not alot of safety measures at the time, with a broken steering wheel is attempted murder.
“Convinced by Bernie Ecclestone to be a bit more lenient”
Haha, I wonder why
Well Max Moseley was a known Ferrari fanboy, he'd do anything to let them win. Like trying to ban BAR from 05 and McLaren in 07.
pictures of Max being whipped by a woman dress like a nazi?
Maybe disqualifying McLaren for the 2008 season would've dampened viewers interest in the 2008 season too much? Which probably would be bad for his company's TV rights' revenue
Zhi Han Lee More like Bernie wanted their money
mcarrera77 That sounds like something out of Wolfenstien lmao
WTF1: “because he’s Sato”
Sato: “milk anyone?”
Only took him 48hs to answer
The racing point fine was euros not dollars
true, but pennies to daddy stroll
Thank you 🙏 it’s about $470,000
You are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
@prime number thank you
@@Primenumber19 he's not technically correct. He's just correct and 400k Dollars is wrong
FIA: Don't do this again
Racing point: Just a little penny
Edit: TYSM for the likes! This is the most likes I've ever had on a comment
@@spacewombat4569 Racing Point didn't use Mercedes rear brake ducts last season.
@@kotaro169 they had the information about the design before the new rules were implemented
@@samuelelespuru1567 That doesn't mean they can copy it.
@@kotaro169 yeah but what can FIA do now?
Disqufling them entrily is too harsh, so they fined them amount they would spend to make new brake ducts and ho much performance they gained from them.
@@spacewombat4569 the problem isn't really the brake ducts, it's the whole car design. the brake ducts just illustrate they copied the 2019 Mercedes since its an interior part(illegal), rather than use pictures of the exterior and reverse engineer it(legal)
Number 8: Not having any F1 between December to July
Coronavirus: Im not a joke.
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Mom hu
No. 1: having to watch the Spanish GP 100 times
You mean the 2019 french GP
metro girl nope
im at 74 atm.. Yeh, fast forward.
Robin you poor thing
@Zen Re: exactly I see him or her every video.
Andrea Moda, the most embarassing F1 Team, was located in my city. And everyone hates the Sassetti's brothers
It doesn't surprise me
@@yassineqadchaoui801 Si si, era anche figo e la pizza era buona. Ma hanno chiuso
@@cintio4622 I'm spanish and for the similarity between the languages I understand a bit xDDD
@@JohnDoe-or2qg yeah, we're language cousins haha
@@JohnDoe-or2qg I understand everything, I am Romanian btw. Pizza era buna. Dar au inchis.
NASCAR team used the "lead shot" method as well. The cars are tube chassis, they filled up the chassis tubes with BB's & had a secret button to release them making the car lighter. It worked well until a driver accidentally hit the button on pit road & released 1000's of BB's on pit lane in front of an race official
Can only imagine the look of the official. Probably something along the lines of🤨
When was this?
No penalties on Leclerc for driving without the seatbelt on? Seems like a major infringement of safety regulations...
He already had a warning because of safety regulations. So it should be a harsh punishment.
It's not without precedent, in Monaco 1996, Eddie Irvine stalled the engine while battling eventual race winner Olivier Panis. He initially undid his belts, but marshalls moved him from where the car had stopped, it was a difficult location to recover the car, and he was able to bump start the engine back to life. But because he undid his belts, he was sitting loosely in his seat, so pitted to have the belts done up again
@@SiVlog1989 Do you know where he stopped?
@@TheLibermania hairpin
@@TheLibermania it was, Loews Hairpin, nowadays known as Fairmount Hairpin
7:25 „since then no world championship has been decided by a collision“
Oh boy, Abu Dhabi coming up this weekend, Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton with the same amount of points.
Oh boy
Oh boy
thats what i was thinking
*Stares at Latifi
The thumbnail is probably when Hamilton noticed his engine go out in malaysia 2016
@@d.b.cooper1 Good final year for Nico Rosberg, tho
Or seeing latifi crashed in turn 14 at Abu Dhabi
Regarding the spying Ferrari, two Italian engineers gave info to two teams other than McLaren, one of which was Toyota and IIRC, the other was Renault but I do stand to be corrected.
The FIA knew this. Neither team manager acted like Dennis (who called in the FIA the moment he found out about it) yet neither team got any punishment. Watch Aidan Millward's video on it. It's eye-opening.
Oh yes, neither engineer or mechanic or whatever they were, were sacked.
toyota and renault as far as we know didnt make simulator tests based on ferrari data or know ahead of time when the ferrari drivers were going to pit while mclaren did
saturn185 I would assume Toyota tried, just didn’t understand how to read the data. Biggest budget on the grid and brought home a handful of trophies that weren’t wins.
@@sloppynyuszi they also built the 2009 winning Brawn car but left the sport before entering their great car.
@@mikepowers572 That was Honda which developed what became the Brawn GP01, not Toyota.
@@U11TUBE14 very true..
"No world championship has been decided by a collision by title contenders."
That didn't age well...
Just wanted to say the same.
Lol well it’s not decided...yet! Although I actually was thinking about this and wondering if Hamilton/Verstappen will end this way
This is even more relevant now
That aged even worse now
it should never have been born
Last time I was this early, Sebastian Vettel was on the podium
Ouch
that hurts
Singapore
@Benito Mussolini he will be a champion again, with aston martin
How was this (video) in any way related to Vettel? You do know that getting likes on TH-cam comments doesn't count for much. So stop being so hateful to him.
You know it's gonna be a great video when the first of 7 punishments is a cool 100 million dollars
Dry Sac corner is now called Dani Pedrosa's corner in honour of the MotoGP legend. The more you know.
Another fun fact, Dani Pedrosa is only about 50-55 KG heavy, around 10-15KG less then majority of MotoGP riders.
Also while racing he was shortest.
No matter where he qualified he was probably 1st by turn 1 haha
@@EddieVanAidan he was a skillful race starter! No holeshots, raw talent.
@@laultimavuelta2707 he's the Juan Pablo Montoya of MotoGP
Some of the commenter are not a fan of Takuma Sato? He's a quality racer, was exciting to watch during his F1 outings, an engaging and genial interview, and a 2x Indy winner. That last one puts him in rare company indeed. He is certainly no Senna, Fangio, Schumacher, or Hamilton (or Clark or Prost or Stewart or Vettel, but you get the point...) but he is probably the greatest Japanese racer in history, a country with immense pedigree and a real love for motorsport. He found his level on the world stage, and has had a very long and successful career. I'd put his career accolades in the ballpark of drivers like Webber or Coulthard. Mostly because of his Oval track success, but he drove pretty well in his F1 days too! Many happy Sundays watching him, and shows no signs of quitting yet! The Sato's of the world are under appreciated in their time, but beloved in retrospect.
How was Matty disrespectful to Sato? He just said he didnt perform as good as Button in 2004
@@nachoalvarez7171 Matt said Sato was no good because he was Sato. I thought it was pretty mean, too
The way Renault were treated by the FIA court as part of the investigation into Crashgate, smells of all the wrong things. It's like Ted Kravitz said, "... This wasn't spying on other teams or lying to the Stewards, this was endangering spectators, marshalls and his own safety," by rights, Renault should have been excluded if they had been McLaren for example. There was some karma in a sense though, quoting Ted Kravitz again,
"(...) The team may have got off lightly in the FIA court, but Renault have been hit in the pocket, by the immediate withdrawal of title sponsor ING. The financial services company didn't want to be associated with a team that cheats,"
McLaren's punishment in 2007 was way too harsh when you consider what other teams have done in recent years and have pretty much gotten away with it.
Exactly, total Bullshit as James Hunt would say
Except they stole it
Racing Point and Mercedes was cooperation
If you mean this years Racing Point then that is a different situation as they were given the part by Mercedes, rather than taking it from them like mclaren did. Still a bit harsh tho
McLaren committed corporate espionage and stole information worth tens of millions of dollars directly from their closest rival. How is that at all similar to anything in recent years?
The fact that the fine was so low and the team weren't banned for several years is honestly surprising to me.
I think they got let off very lightly and they should have got the initial penalty proposed by Mosely - the drivers were still allowed to drive the same cars that year and the following year which could have benefited from the spying. Fortunately neither of them won in 2007, but given how close 2008 was some illegally obtained Ferrari data could have contributed the tiny but to make that a winning car
Did anyone notice "the original Stig" at 15:24 😂
16:10 has to be one of the worst crimes in sports history, to so carelessly and deliberately endager their driver's life
Absolutely love the editing on this one! Great work!
11:22 that rule (while no longer existing) put Gasly in the incredible position to win at Monza 2020
Can you explain how entering the out lane before the safety car helps? I haven't seen many races just started watching end of last year and I'm confused
Andrea Moda even once sent McCarthy out with an ill-fitted seat at Monaco, meaning he was being thrown around the cockpit and seeing double the whole lap, hence his fastest time was so woefully slow that a competitive runner could easily jog round the circuit faster.
It's also worth noting that McCarthy was initially refused a super licence at Brazil, and that around the time of the next race in Spain, Enrico Bertaggia had approached the team with around $1M of sponsorship money for a race seat, but the FIA blocked any more driver substitutions within the team. It was at this point that Sasseti ignored the Brit's entry in an attempt to get him to quit, hence he could bring in Bertaggia.
I heard about that latter one in Josh Revell's video on Andrea Moda but not the former.
This channel offers so much better and interesting information about motorsport than the official F1 channel. Amazing. Keep it up!
The only time I have honestly ever lost control in a blind rage was from a mechanic knowingly putting a driveshaft with bad universal bearings on my Impala. If it had been a control system part that was known to be unserviceable and it failed.. there wouldn't be enough people in the shop to save him and pull me off.
superb quality content in the video, this is why WTF1 rocks on top, hats off team..
Racing point had to give up Lance Stroll’s pocket money as a fine
Lol
Love your content WTF1, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
Me before video: Spygate better be in here
1 minute in: Spygate
Not sure why lewis is pictured, he wasn't involved.
Hey Max I thought you said you will get 5 championships.... lol. All talk no driving skill.
I know this is s fake profile.
Don’t comment on this channel anymore. You have 33 comments.
Haha same
Racing point's punishment is still not big enough. I can't believe the FIA has allowed them to keep their illegally shared data...
Omg the stock photo of the courthouse used at 4:58 is the courthouse right next to my house 😂
Lewis Hamilton on the thumbnail looks like he got a message says: you can't sleep there are monsters nearby. But he's peaceful mode in minecraft
Lol Schumi was a dirty driver when you see stuff like that.
His team mates were always ordered behind him. If it wasn't for that, who knows how successful he really would have been.
Lord Mahaveer Maldonado and Nico pulled his own crash (in his sole championship year) when he intentionally pinned Lewis in one of those “I was just late turning...” excuses.
These guys can be volition, and it seems German drivers are more prone to it (think Seb bumping wheels with Lewis).
Hey, you are just saying that because you are anti German!
@@arekkusu888 I think like many British f1 fans he hates German drivers
More reasons why Lewis is better
14:46 till end, enjoy 😉. I don’t how Matty was serious sounding during that bit, I was dying 😂😂😂
7:53 2 time Indy 500 winner.
Think some drivers have found more success after switching from F1 to IndyCar? e.g. Bourdais
The editing in this video was satisfying af
"Max Mosely against cheating" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
To elaborate on 5:36: If I recall correctly, the other teams were trying to make turbo engines mandatory, but they needed unanimous approval, and Tyrrell refused to budge. Their disqualification, however, conveniently meant that their approval was no longer needed, and turbo engines thus became mandatory for 1985.
I'm not suggesting that Tyrrell were disqualified for the sole purpose of getting the rule change pushed through, but Ken Tyrrell certainly believed that.
The argument that Alonso wouldn’t have gone along with such a crazy strategy is stupid because Ferrari still go ahead with their strategies and there anything but sane
lmaooo
All part of the Master🅱️lan
In the days of Stepneygate, I had contacts in F1. I used to run fanzines and was friends with someone high up in a company that sponsored both Tyrell and McLaren. All were outraged by Mosley's actions against McLaren, particularly the fact that they found virtually nothing against them despite the massive amount of data they had. Mosley had to accept that Dennis had not deleted anything. The suggestion of the brakes was straw-grabbing at best. Further, the 'apology', written by lawyers of course, was more or less a pleasantly worded rejection of the findings of the enquiry. I had a friend, an F1 nerd and compliance lawyer, who said that it was a classic non-apology, indicative of the quality of their lawyers. Nothing in it could be picked up by Mosley to justify - although Mosley needed little justification for any action he took - punishing McLaren, or should I be specific and say Dennis, further. It's a terrible indictment of Modely's tenure as the boss of the sport that he fined McL that amount but for the team that nearly burnt down the German pit lane, there was very little in the way of sanctions.
There were two people involved, one from McLaren and one from Ferrari, in offering information for employment down the pitlane. McLaren got turned over and Ferrari - well, we're still waiting for what's going to happen to them. What info did Coughlan take from McL?
A small point, but I think indicative of the man, is that Hamilton rejected immunity. The only people there was any evidence against were Alonso and de la Rossa, and they got off scot free.
All water under the bridge now, but it's best to get the facts straight. I downloaded the result of the FIA's enquiry the day it was published, complete with redacted bits. My friendly lawyer phoned me to say that all one had to do to reveal the redacted parts was to change the colouring in Word. Quite an error, but as it was down to Mosley's FIA it was allowed.
We've now got Todt in charge. The FIA gets no direct income from F1, Mosley stopped that for reasons unexplained, but despite that, he's doing a much better job than either of the two previous incumbents. He doesn't do much. That's a vast improvement.
"Since then no World Championship has been decided by a collision", I watching this after yesterday's race in Silverstone
You know the video will be good when the first punishment is 100 million dollars.
Crazy
I've heard the Andrea story so many times but I still get shocked at the words steering broke through way rouge
great video dude
Dang, you could make a Netflix drama out of this.
7:17 I love this channel😂😂
Didn’t know one person could like a video 70 times in 23 seconds
Refresh the page next time before making silly comments...
Junior Ademola I’m just joking. Chill.
5:53 why does jacques villenueve look like that "average fan" meme
I'm still confused about the racing point saga, so they were fined and docked points, which suggests they have been found guilty of a breach but they're still running the same brake ducts..? Presumably then so long as you pay the fine you can keep breaking that same rule for the rest of the season penalty free?
Yes, apparently they wouldn't be able to make new brake ducts because of their knowledge about the Mercedes' parts (BS, because as you saw in the video McLaren made a championship winning car after the spygate without any Ferrari parts)
They can still use the brake ducts because the are legal from a technical standpoint. The technical regulations state how the ducts have to look and everything and RPs are fine with this.
What's wrong is the way they developed them, and that falls under the sporting regulations. And that's what they got the punishment for.
And it's quite difficult to erase the knowledge about the brake ducts from the brains of the engineers making it difficult to find a good solution.
Alonso cracks me up. He sits at the dinner table plotting how to stir shit up the next day.
I have a feeling if it wasn't for spygate, Lewis would've been world champion in his debut season. Kinda sad, his team let him down that year.
Hamilton didn't lose any drivers championship points that year because of it. and Kimi had 1 more retirement than Hamilton. If anything Ferrari let down kimi with reliability issues making his championship fight harder.
@@doghat1619 exactly. Hamilton was no innocent lamb that year either. The thing in Hungary (qualification) was caused by Hamilton himself by disregarding team orders. Alonso then let him "wait" at the pits.
@@benn87 How is Hamilton the guilty party there? Aren't team orders UNIVERSALLY hated by the fans? I'm not a fan of Hamilton, I hate the guy honestly but I have some respect for him for not sitting down and being a #2 driver in his rookie year. Alonso was petty and his actions show exactly what kind of man he is.
Thanks for the video
Gotta love having Alonso back next year just for some juicy drama he will cause
Team orders being illegal is the weirdest rule of them all. You drive in tandem for a team (making it a team sport) why can"t the team order a driver to pass?
Messi: I got the ball
Koeman: score a goal
Messi: I am at the circle
Koeman: Pass
Messi: Nope, team orders.
Because it's different. In football there's no big title for scoring the post points, and it's impossible to judge players against eahc other as each one has a different position and objective for the team. In Racing, the drivers are competiting individually, and together. So every team wants to finish with a 1-2, but every driver wants that 1 to be them.
Also, because it simply makes for boring viewing. To see drivers not race for the lead and instead slow down and let their biggest rival, their team mate, pass is boring for spectators. and if F1 becomes boring people will stop watching.
I disagree the water dumping was "completely legal" because the minimum weight rule goes for the full race not just the moment its weighted... so if you at any point fall below it you are technically racing illegally
15:32 McCarthy's Spanish GP story was a freaking joke!! His mechanics went to a party the night before, went directly to the circuit without calling Perry, the driver arrived to the circuit with the session already under way, and then his engine first caught fire in the garage and then broke completely just 50 metres after getting out to the pit lane
What about last years Ferrari (2019)? Then determined to be 'the most powerful' and close to winning, then suddenly a fuel sensor issue. In 2020, lucky to make Q3. LUL. Ferrari routinely cheat.
4:58 wow i genuinely didnt expect to see a picture of my city's courthouse in an f1 video, city being cork here in ireland
Because Sato is just sato, sato won the indy 500 the second time a week after this was uploaded
Schumacher v Villeneuve Jerez '97 - might not have happened again, but not for lack of Max trying.
Whilst "team orders" were not illegal, it could be quite easily seen as match fixing as it is clear that the natural result of the competition is being influenced which is not only illegal by the rules of the FIA but is also a criminal act in many countries.
bound to happen in any sport where one Owner can run more than one team/car. It happened with Samsung in LoL eSports too.
Thx for this vidio😊
7:12 This concern is actually pretty real right now in germany since illegal street racing was a thing over the last few years in Berlin.
In a recent case, 2 drivers where racing each other at 170km/h (almost 3.5 times the speedlimit of 50km/h) and running over 13 red lights.
One of them hit a crossing driver and killed him. Both drivers got charged with murder.
So charging Schumacher with at least attempted assault isnt that far fetched, since he put up with the other driver getting hurt.
I had never heard of Andrea Moda, that's crazy. I'm all for making the sport more accessible for the less wealthy, but giving a driver a broken steering wheel could be straight up seen as murder, IMO.
@WTF1 16:19 That's Raidillon actually.
2:41 "Mosley joked" I don't think it was meant to be a joke. Ron Dennis wasn't the ...errr... most likeable person in the paddock, and mutual disdain between him and Mosley was almost palpable ^^'
7:27 "no world title has been decided by collision between the title contenders"
2021: *not yet*
Lmao 4:58 is the courts house in cork ireland where I live 😂
9:55 - yeah, but EVERY driver has a theoretically chance for the title until the last race of a season is officially over (means no investigations).
Every time I see Eau rouge all I can think of is "it's radion actually"
The best thumbnail in formula1 TH-cam history
Max Mosley when Ferrari cheats: *KaLM*
Max when another team is *apparently* cheating: *PaNIk*
When did Ferrari cheat under Max Mosley?
@@vivvysaur21 You are right they didn't break the rules but somethings were 'weird'
@@fuckfirefox5114 Like what? Are you talking about 2019? Because then half of your comment doesn't make sense, as surprise surprise Max Mosley stepped down as FIA president in 2009.
Massa is about to prove how angry he was
16:35 what? 😂😂
Weirdly the ‘court of appeal’ at 4:59 is a picture of the court in my city. Cork, Ireland. That’s random.
I did a double take when I saw it and had to rewind. Yours was the first comment on it that I saw. Weird enough that this court house is being used 🤣🤣
5:44 Lewis Hamilton vs Max Verstappen Silverstone 2021 flashbacks?
09:31 Brazillians calls this moment "Hoje sim, Hoje sim... hoje nãoooo" = "Its Today, Its Today... NOOOOOOT today" (in free translation), due to the emotion of the narrator in the last corner of the race.
I was just a kid, but I remember how angry I felt in that moment kkkkk
7:13 If Schumacher‘s move was „attempted murder“, what whould have been Hamilton‘s move at silverstone 2021? 🙄
Apparently, common sense hasn't prevailed for you yet...
@@nonamefound9296 Don‘t try to be more intelligent than you are ;)
@@user-gz8ty9sh9d oh now your first comment makes more sense! but don't worry, the hormones will level out in a couple of years, untill then, try to focus more on your school and homeworks:)
@@nonamefound9296 Well said! I hope you‘ll stick to your self set goals.
7:20 Enter Abu Dhabi 2021...
And number 11: Ferrari 2019 when they ran an illegal engine...
Oh wait never mind. That wasn’t punished.
Did you saw the 2020 season so far? It was punished enough.
TheLibermania Oh I know. I’m a huge Ferrari fan. Just giving them shit
Where are numbers 8 to 10?
TheRealGS Thought it was a top 10 list when I was writing this. Wasn’t awake yet. Whoops.
@@TheLibermania so being made to follow the rules like everyone else is punishment? They should have be fined heavily and points taken away...
Just what I needed after this day to make it a bit better. Formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!
“After being well, Sato.”
But you should see the English going wild for Sato after the Indy 500. Now they’re saying they want him back over Alonso.
Literally none of us have said that lol.
Damon Marrison unfortunately a few of you had
really very much informative video, love it
Shocking that McLaren brought Alonso back so that he can make a fool out of them for a second time.
Going into a copyshop to copy confidential papers has some strong ferrari strategy vibes!