Thanks to Factor75 for sponsoring today's video. Use my link to get 50% off your first Factor box and 20% off your next month of orders! strms.net/factor75_madseasonshow
@@SmokinSkillerz All three of these things mentioned make me feel old. But not quite in a bad way. It's been good seeing it, though my RS days are long over, those quests were charming as hell.
More cut vanilla content! I'm really enjoying this series. The idea is to go expansion by expansion once vanilla is over. Aside from that, I'm working on another video for my Rise and Fall MMO series, and was also thinking of continuing that Runescape series since you guys seemed to like it. Lots of projects so stay tuned :D Thanks for watching this one.
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have binged almost all your WoW videos. I've learned so much of the world and it's players and history that I feel like a part of it. I've never played a single second of WoW in my life.
Honestly the unreleased battleground sounds like a better AV, forcing people to actually fight and stopping zergs just racing to the faction boss and not making the battleground pointless and boring, instead getting the sick ass week long wars like that of AV back in vanilla before everyone found out u could just zerg to enemy boss and win instantly
Love this series, I find the development cycle for vanilla super interesting. Would you mind giving us a tour of alpha Silithus in the next video? Curious to see how much if any of AQ is there this early on.
I have to imagine that battleground got cut after some playtesting. It's been years since I last played WOW but I remember Alterac Valley mostly being constant pushes forward. Players are either attacking and gaining ground or they're fighting someone or they respawned and are heading forward into the fight again. Trying to do a BG MOBA-style makes me think there'd be a lot of downtime as you run back to vendors and forward to the farming grounds. That map looks absolutely huge by Classic scale.
As a low level 20 something on classic, I am thankful that Magic Dust is still viable and has a decent sell price. Been padding my wallet with gold for later cause of it.
At 4:05 that's Madseason taking his Factor out the box?!? I had no idea he has rhe body of an athletic Hispanic woman. Never woulda guessed. Rank 14 and a body like that
Pretty sure there was a plan to have Revantusk Village in Hinterlands and Shadowprey Village in Decolace to be connected with a boat but it got scrapped or just ran out of time.
Unpopular opinion, but the "Alliance and Horde" player kind of need each other , be like a Batman comic with no villains or Goku with no strong rivals to challenge him. It be str8 up a boring mmorpg without the competition. Now that I think of it, WoW with no factions pretty much be "Everquest 1" yikes 😬 😅
why hasn't any true undead player named their main "Chakan the Forever Man" it's an old-school Sega Genesis/MD game , play as a Bada$$ Undead dude based off a obscure comic book 📖
Mad I've been wanting to ask you if your gbank items went missing like many of us. I remember some videos you did back in the day of your gbank stash with some magic roosters.
It's so crazy to me to have been playing EverQuest back in the day then actual Vanilla WoW, and one of the things we'd do sometimes when we were bored was play some WC3 mod called Defense of the Ancients, along with some other random mods and then for that to become what it is now is just crazy.
I had W3 just for goofing around with friends. The custom games were so insanely popular, even non gamers were buying it just to play stupid mini games together. DotA was infinitely more confusing to learn however you could just pick a carry, farm magic immune BKB and go kill everything.
I think Smite also gets a mention for the MOBA sphere for being the only semi-popular 3D MOBA. Like you play with view on the battlefield instead of isometric 3rd person. Also Heroes of the Storm, as it was Blizzard's attempt to break the MOBA market, which has nominal success before failing. It was genuinely fun, but terribly balanced. I think the mistake was they wanted to make it competitive when they should have leaned into casual fun
Glad you are enjoying the tunes :) LMAO man Rogue was going to be absolutely nutty with a 15 second stun haha. Then no CD gouge and no DR? And the trip XD.
being a rogue, getting to rank 14 was kinda easy. Cheap shot, garotte, backstab, kidney shot, backstab, backstab, gouge if needed, eviscerate lol Edit: If fighting a paladin or warrior/shaman, blind was clutch, but you had to remember to bring your blinding powder.
From what I've heard ( and remember ), Rogues in general were a bit OP, because of.. I believe it was Jeff Kaplan? who favoured Rogues and I think he played one in EverQuest or something ( I've never played EQ, so I don't know much about it ) and was therefore bringing things into WoW that made them strong. Just a bit too much in the alpha though.
He also hated paladins. Hence the huge nerf into an auto attack bot just before release. They hated hybrid classes being useful despite them being very popular. They were elitist raiders of Everquest and staunchly believed in the holy trinity.
This series is absolutely perfect, can’t wait for the next one dude. I had no idea rogues were THAT effin broken Have you been playing SoD at all? I stopped playing about a month into the “incursions” phase then I completely stopped :(
That's where I quit also. No hate on SoD but just didn't hold my interest past the level 50 phase. Right now I'm just doing some OSRS while I wait for the next vanilla iteration :D
@@madseasonshow yeah man I couldn’t agree more. I hope they go a different direction next time they rerelease vanilla. I watched your recent osrs and it looks like such a fun game! Would you recommend it? I haven’t played a video game in months and I could use a break from questing IRL
Oh it was scrapped tor Alterac Valley, just not in the way you think. Alterac Valley was ridiculously designed in favor of the Alliance, which was totally necessary, because the way its setup, the Horde should never win a single match there.
In my opinion to fix AV all the need to do is make it so your can’t just rush straight to the boss sit and wait till towers burn making it more interactive would fix it.
the lack of cooldowns was probably because that version of rogue was intentionally for testing the very mechanics and feel themselves (ie stuns, combo pts, etc) the lack of cooldowns wasnt maybe a design decision but an open decision for development. amazing vid im a huge fan but this framing seemed to miss the point of what these alpha versions existed for
Thanks to Factor75 for sponsoring today's video. Use my link to get 50% off your first Factor box and 20% off your next month of orders! strms.net/factor75_madseasonshow
Fuck the alliance
😮1:05 Why did they get rid of that battleground ? An awesome idea for a bg
Can you play as random mobs in this Alpha WoW ? Seen 1 before where looks like you might be able to do that
@@denzo1636You tripping, both Alliance and Horde need each other, WoW would be a boring Everquest 1 ripoff without factions
Oh F*ck the horde? Not making my order through Factor75.
Runescape music. Oh no. The curse has taken him.
who can blame him, its peak
MadSeason playing Old School RuneScape is a Jimmy Neutron x Timmy Turner level crossover, I have waited years for this
I love osrs music
Time to jam out to Autumn Voyage for the 23rd time today
@@SmokinSkillerz All three of these things mentioned make me feel old. But not quite in a bad way. It's been good seeing it, though my RS days are long over, those quests were charming as hell.
More cut vanilla content! I'm really enjoying this series. The idea is to go expansion by expansion once vanilla is over.
Aside from that, I'm working on another video for my Rise and Fall MMO series, and was also thinking of continuing that Runescape series since you guys seemed to like it. Lots of projects so stay tuned :D Thanks for watching this one.
I enjoy pretty much all of your content, but I am VERY excited to see you delve into Osrs... it's the best blending of two worlds.
Yes more RuneScape please! There is far too much intonation in most RuneScape content.
OSRS HYPE!
Just watched Zelda Pandora’s Box - MadSeasonShow that is an amazing story that you tell amazingly. Great job.
PLEASE keep up with OSRS. It’s such a natural progression for you and your channel, and I think you and your viewers will really enjoy it.
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have binged almost all your WoW videos. I've learned so much of the world and it's players and history that I feel like a part of it. I've never played a single second of WoW in my life.
Give it a go!
I did the same a few years ago. 2022 I binged his videos and played out TBC and most of Wrath. Had a lot of fun met some great people.
well i'm better than you i play from 2005 and never write this bs
and i have 2 lvl 60 char in hc u sukc
Who hurt you?
Fun fact!
The female warlock model at 7:15 is the same one used in one of the old "sexy" paintings that were removed from the game.
Why would they use a humanoid NPC model for a fruit bowl?
Vanilla stuff wins my heart.
Passion, details, character, community. Love classic.
Just saw your osrs vid today, immediately subbed in the hopes of seeing more in the future!
Can’t wait for you to get to raids
I can't believe that the Rogue skills were allowed to be THAT broken at any point in time. Legit madness.
We miss you in WoW already :(
you can tell hes woodcutting on OSRS while editing this one, lol :P
The runescape music is top, love it when people realize how good it actually is as it goes well with so many different types of youtube content.
Loving the OSRS music!
" Fuck the horde" . How dare you. Lol 😅 ❤ Always love your choice of background music.
I'm a sad classic andy waiting for it to come back. thank you for these videos
Try turtle wow
Are you too good for the female troll placeholder model now?
Nobody wanna see Melisandre’s true form again
@@hyruler036 I do ☹️
I honestly would play female troll if they look like this 😅 I'm tired of "prettified"
It gives me nightmares
>I'm a brave boy
*female troll placeholder model*
>Not brave enough for this!
Thanks for RS music, helped me relax a lot.
“Fuck the Horde” he said that with his chest and I love it 😂😂
Yeah fuck those horde ass suckers hahaha
Honestly the unreleased battleground sounds like a better AV, forcing people to actually fight and stopping zergs just racing to the faction boss and not making the battleground pointless and boring, instead getting the sick ass week long wars like that of AV back in vanilla before everyone found out u could just zerg to enemy boss and win instantly
Loving the osrs music bossman!
Awesome time for a new madseason vanilla video as I just got back into era
Watching this while drinking 32-33 Saradomin Brews
Love this series, I find the development cycle for vanilla super interesting. Would you mind giving us a tour of alpha Silithus in the next video? Curious to see how much if any of AQ is there this early on.
I have to imagine that battleground got cut after some playtesting. It's been years since I last played WOW but I remember Alterac Valley mostly being constant pushes forward. Players are either attacking and gaining ground or they're fighting someone or they respawned and are heading forward into the fight again. Trying to do a BG MOBA-style makes me think there'd be a lot of downtime as you run back to vendors and forward to the farming grounds. That map looks absolutely huge by Classic scale.
Have you considered playing/making videos about Turtle WoW?
Amazing video as always man. Thanks for blessing us with this old knowledge
OSRS MUSIC LET'S GO, HOPE TO SEE MORE VIDEOS OF OSRS!!
your harsh cut out of the commercial really made me laugh
holy Runescape's music tickles my brain *Feelsgoodman*
Man I love hearing ff7 music in videos makes me feel great.
As a low level 20 something on classic, I am thankful that Magic Dust is still viable and has a decent sell price. Been padding my wallet with gold for later cause of it.
Hey bro. Thank you for being you all these years. Love u ❤
At 4:05 that's Madseason taking his Factor out the box?!? I had no idea he has rhe body of an athletic Hispanic woman. Never woulda guessed. Rank 14 and a body like that
Pretty sure there was a plan to have Revantusk Village in Hinterlands and Shadowprey Village in Decolace to be connected with a boat but it got scrapped or just ran out of time.
You are one of my favorite youtubers ever, keep it up, great videos :)
Man I love it when you sneak in a few swear words. It feels so unhinged and makes me laugh so hard every time!
That Gouge duration scares me
06:59 That was rude and unprovoked. Love your content though. Much love a Horde only player.
Unpopular opinion, but the "Alliance and Horde" player kind of need each other , be like a Batman comic with no villains or Goku with no strong rivals to challenge him. It be str8 up a boring mmorpg without the competition. Now that I think of it, WoW with no factions pretty much be "Everquest 1" yikes 😬 😅
why hasn't any true undead player named their main "Chakan the Forever Man" it's an old-school Sega Genesis/MD game , play as a Bada$$ Undead dude based off a obscure comic book 📖
@@joezar33u do it
I came to the comments for this.
OSRS soundtrack makes all things better.
These videos are my go-to peace of mind . Your content is my insomnia prescription. Love u dude. I’m going to layoff now. Peace ✌️ zzzZzZz
Would be cooler if the Tanaris boat connected to Ratchet and went along the coast the whole way
get that second OSRS episode out!
Mad I've been wanting to ask you if your gbank items went missing like many of us. I remember some videos you did back in the day of your gbank stash with some magic roosters.
FF7 music. Let’s go madseason!
Oh boy oh boy oooh boy!! I wish this kind of content will make me calm In next 30 years too
He wasn't lying about the RuneScape music :)
I didn't do much PvP. But AV was definitely fun. PvPvE done well always ends up being a fun balance in any game.
Great video!
love these alpha wow videos
It's so crazy to me to have been playing EverQuest back in the day then actual Vanilla WoW, and one of the things we'd do sometimes when we were bored was play some WC3 mod called Defense of the Ancients, along with some other random mods and then for that to become what it is now is just crazy.
I had W3 just for goofing around with friends. The custom games were so insanely popular, even non gamers were buying it just to play stupid mini games together. DotA was infinitely more confusing to learn however you could just pick a carry, farm magic immune BKB and go kill everything.
that SS animation is sick
Love vanilla! Hope to see more osrs vids as well!
how tf did i never realise AV basically is a MOBA BG... mind blown
Holy protection potion still exist, great video madseason
Are we gonna ignore the mechanical dragon skeleton at 9:06??
Bruuuuh, i won't lie.. im kinda glad i missed out on your new posts, now i have some fresh _mS_ 💪
Just wonder if they're going to implement Kalidar as BG or Darkwhisper Gorge as entrance dungeon for Hyjal (like UBRS for BWL) in SoD
was just rewatching your old content and find this surprise, thank you 🥹
Autumn Voyage in background for next vid please
What I'm dying to know is: How did you procure access to the game files, and how do you even load them up?!
I think Smite also gets a mention for the MOBA sphere for being the only semi-popular 3D MOBA. Like you play with view on the battlefield instead of isometric 3rd person.
Also Heroes of the Storm, as it was Blizzard's attempt to break the MOBA market, which has nominal success before failing. It was genuinely fun, but terribly balanced. I think the mistake was they wanted to make it competitive when they should have leaned into casual fun
Great series!
Glad you are enjoying the tunes :)
LMAO man Rogue was going to be absolutely nutty with a 15 second stun haha. Then no CD gouge and no DR? And the trip XD.
More RuneScape!!!! ❤
Nice of you to release this video while we wait for the next OSRS video.
6:59
Time and place alliance dog.
You should give Everquest a try, Mr. Madseason.
I wish they could create more battlegrounds for Classic Era
10:41 Kidney shot stuns for 2 secs per combo point. Sounds reasonable.
Why is there no option for fullscreen, theatre mode, etc anymore?
Final Fantasy and Warcraft = FIRE VIDEO!
Things like Magic Dust or Hooked Net should only work on mobs equal to (or lower than) he max level of the mob it dropped off of, imo.
oh god yes unleash your secrets upon me
Wait there was a raid boss in the center of AV? The Zerg was so real never even knew about that
I think you should try a classic everquest server... You may like it.
being a rogue, getting to rank 14 was kinda easy. Cheap shot, garotte, backstab, kidney shot, backstab, backstab, gouge if needed, eviscerate lol Edit: If fighting a paladin or warrior/shaman, blind was clutch, but you had to remember to bring your blinding powder.
Your always great thanks 🎉
Wait till he hits us with that Sea Shanty 2
13:18 PICKUP THE LOTUS MAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
So have they just given up on a Classic+?
"Tricks enemies into thinking your dead" - Even the grammar was in its alpha stage kek
Dude where is your ultimate wow documentary video covering everything about it? Honoring the 20th anniversary?
I miss those tailoring nets from BC; they were physical, so they worked through Cloak of Shadows.
ChadSeason with OSRS and vanilla WoW videos in the same week on the main channel!? 👌 👏
Mad Season Microwave meals. 🤣😂
We would like more Runescape videos sir
WoW classic videos about unreleased/rarest re what his best at and most interesting ones
Neat video! Can't wait to see your next OSRS episode, too.
I had to check my OSRS volume when the music started.. I said "What the fuck?? I thought it was muted..." Alas... It was you brother.. Good vid!!
What's the remix of FF7 Forested Temple at the end of the video?
Shout out to Grenders alpha project that guy rules.. he also has a big database of the earliest WoW screenshots you can help sort :)
From what I've heard ( and remember ), Rogues in general were a bit OP, because of.. I believe it was Jeff Kaplan? who favoured Rogues and I think he played one in EverQuest or something ( I've never played EQ, so I don't know much about it ) and was therefore bringing things into WoW that made them strong. Just a bit too much in the alpha though.
He also hated paladins. Hence the huge nerf into an auto attack bot just before release. They hated hybrid classes being useful despite them being very popular. They were elitist raiders of Everquest and staunchly believed in the holy trinity.
This series is absolutely perfect, can’t wait for the next one dude. I had no idea rogues were THAT effin broken
Have you been playing SoD at all? I stopped playing about a month into the “incursions” phase then I completely stopped :(
That's where I quit also. No hate on SoD but just didn't hold my interest past the level 50 phase. Right now I'm just doing some OSRS while I wait for the next vanilla iteration :D
@@madseasonshow yeah man I couldn’t agree more. I hope they go a different direction next time they rerelease vanilla.
I watched your recent osrs and it looks like such a fun game! Would you recommend it? I haven’t played a video game in months and I could use a break from questing IRL
Oh it was scrapped tor Alterac Valley, just not in the way you think.
Alterac Valley was ridiculously designed in favor of the Alliance, which was totally necessary, because the way its setup, the Horde should never win a single match there.
The fucking bridge
woah a new bg now were talkin
In my opinion to fix AV all the need to do is make it so your can’t just rush straight to the boss sit and wait till towers burn making it more interactive would fix it.
50. Second. Stun.
Just imagine that rogue doing another 5 combopoint on you in the following 5 second, dancing next to you for 45 sec, and repeat.
how the actual frick did those stun durations ever get into any version of the game😂
We need you to stream again. Now that Asmon cooked himsef I got no reason to load Twitch at all.
Mad i think you should eventually move over to Ashes of Creation. I seems the developers have that Vanilla WoW spirit towards game design.
Scam game. DOA.
where was this location?
the lack of cooldowns was probably because that version of rogue was intentionally for testing the very mechanics and feel themselves (ie stuns, combo pts, etc)
the lack of cooldowns wasnt maybe a design decision but an open decision for development.
amazing vid im a huge fan but this framing seemed to miss the point of what these alpha versions existed for