Factory Tour for the Most Popular Fifth Wheel in History! ► Keystone Montana RVs

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  • @rogerspalding5673
    @rogerspalding5673 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Uncle Josh, The after hours factory visits are superb. I always learn something new when you're on site.

  • @robertlittle8672
    @robertlittle8672 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Josh, this is a most outstanding video, this montana is 1 of 2 of my most favorite rigs on the planet! Thank you JW AND BISHES!!! BATTERY DIED.

  • @dwightrudd9724
    @dwightrudd9724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another 'PERFECT' rv factory tour. Please keep them coming!!!

  • @randolphcanham1591
    @randolphcanham1591 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really appreciate your factiory tour videos. They convey a vast amount of important information. Thank you very much.

  • @dennisMontanaRV2018
    @dennisMontanaRV2018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Josh,
    I always appreciate factory tours of Montana 5th Wheels, thank you! We own a 2018 Montana Model 3720RL that came with the Norcold 2118 fridge. We do a lot of boondocking on our Canadian snowbird trips to southern Arizona. During our 2021/2022 trip we boondocked 96 days and in 2022/2023 99 days so alot of drycamping. I did alot of work on the back side of the Norcold 2118 to get better cooling efficiency which has really helped being how we operate the fridge on propane during our boondocking. We may eventually convert the fridge to the 12 volt compressor system from JC.

  • @roberthennel
    @roberthennel ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love these factory tours, really helped me understand how the RVs work on the inside👍

    • @tomaszelibed6664
      @tomaszelibed6664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice walk tru with nice rvs.Really appreciate your work👌👍Thank you

  • @wendybenson5903
    @wendybenson5903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Nerd! Now I'll be going down the rabbit hole of your other factory tours so I can see the differences. Good thing I didn't have plans for today lol!!!!

  • @rollingacresfarmstead206
    @rollingacresfarmstead206 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that painted black grey blue and white is just a gorgeous combo. Put it right up there with some of the LUXE line stuff

  • @marcydobbs1653
    @marcydobbs1653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my Montana Big Sky. It's 10 years old, but doesn't look its age. Full body paint really makes a difference long term. We've had only 1 problem in all this time. Going with quality mfg makes a big difference. Thank for the tour. You're the best in the industry.

  • @MatthewIrvine
    @MatthewIrvine ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the factory tours! Seeing how these rigs are put together is extremely helpful in maintaining them! Keep them coming Uncle Josh! BTW when is the Nerd Herd swag coming out?

  • @michcarr
    @michcarr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tour. Not sure if others noticed it not, but there were some noticeable quality issues. A couple of examples.
    1. When looking at the welds on the aluminum frames. Some of the welds looked like they were only tacked and not complete. I would think that creates a weak spot.
    2. When looking behind the wet bay, I noticed one of the pex pieces up against the aluminum frame. I believe this may eventually wear a hole in the pex if not addressed.
    I will have to watch some of your other tours and compare.
    Thanks again!

  • @electricamish
    @electricamish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we ordered an Alpine, and went Residential fridge, we dont dry camp, and we had a home fridge in our last unit and loved it. The inverter is a plus.

  • @justonebeliever
    @justonebeliever ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the tour Josh! I'm having a hard time deciding which brand I want to go with.

    • @asanablue
      @asanablue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go with keystone. Any keystone. Montana is awesome. 😂

  • @rogerspalding5673
    @rogerspalding5673 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Montana is one of the few high-end 5thWs which does not have tankless water heaters; instead, going with extra large water heater tanks (e.g. 16 or 18 gallons). Could you please explain why Keystone went this route with its top-of-the-line model? It seems contrary to Montana's high standards.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t really speak in their behalf. That might be a question for the Montana designers themselves.

    • @rogerspalding5673
      @rogerspalding5673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshtheRVNerd Uncle Josh, I was let down by your rationalization. This is not a proprietary thing for which you might be sued for corporate espionage. If you don't know, you don't know. There is no harm for speaking the truth about why Montana went with conventional tank heaters over tankless. I'll bet an America Eagle gold ounce (just an expression; yet about $2,500.00) that you do, in fact, know why Montana stayed conventional when every Cougar and just about every other Keystone model is outfitted with tankless. I know you have too much curiosity in your field of endeavor to not know.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerspalding5673 again I can only speculate, but I would estimate they are sticking with some thing that has tried and true so they’ve gone with a larger version of it recently to help expand usage

    • @rogerspalding5673
      @rogerspalding5673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoshtheRVNerd Uncle Josh, thank you for tolerating my second pesky question about Montanas. I am no one special, but this was the answer for which I was looking. I am 70 years old, but feel like 30. So, I am closer to the end than I am to the beginning. As you say so eloquently, my second RV will also be my last. High end Cougars, Montanas, North Points, Pinnacles and High end Eagles comprise my potential acquisitions. The super luxe full profile 5thWs, Super Cs and Class As don't return all that much for the prices one pays. Your opinions are the most authoritative and educated of all on the 'net. My local salesmen would lie about their own mothers to make a sale; totally untrustworthy. Accordingly, I rely on you for true accurate info. This is why I bother you so. Thanks for your patience. You, and the Bishs, may not know how important your thoughts and opinions are to us, out here among the deplorables.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerspalding5673 My pleasure! keep them coming 😊

  • @philsalsbery9994
    @philsalsbery9994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video review, Josh. Way back in 2017, when you were at Haylett, via your great videos, you helped us pick out our then new special order 2018 Montana 3560-RL Legacy with full body paint. We still have it and absolutely love it. I still watch all your industry updates which are very informative. We have the Nor Cold 4 door SS propane / electric refer in our Montana, and I for one, am sad to see them go, great units. You are correct, Montana has been using Sailun tires on their 5th wheels for many years, and they are fantastic tires, as god or better than Goodyear. Keep up the great work, my friend!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ty so much for sticking with me here!!

  • @christravels360
    @christravels360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, and wonderful information. I love how you show us what goes into it. I have always believed you should know your equipment, and this video helps with that. Stay safe, and keep smiling!

  • @gloribyrd9259
    @gloribyrd9259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're teaching me a lot. Thanks! I'll have to re-watch to absorb info I didn't pick up the first time. Lol

  • @Technocrat.
    @Technocrat. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice tour, so Keystone RV trailer all the way. Love how they built.

  • @jasonrobinson7922
    @jasonrobinson7922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, sir, I bought a Montana due to your video. Thank you, brother 😮

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy! Would you mind dropping me a review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review for the help?

  • @lot-a-timers4507
    @lot-a-timers4507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m loving the factory tour!! Next year I. (Unless something changes my mind) I am going to upgrade to a Montana Legacy 3121RL. Just want to feel a little better about the “frame flex” issues and hopefully I will do it.

  • @betterwithrum
    @betterwithrum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was towing our RV back from vacation last week. I was doing 62mph, the number of RVs passing me at 70mph or more was absolutely incredible. Where the heck is everyone going so fast!? Good thing these tires are rated to 75mph.
    Josh this will sound crazy, but I'd ask Keystone to put in a smaller fridge than the 18 or 20cubic foot fridge. While I like the look and function of the residential fridge, I do worry about having to replace it one day in the future. I want a fridge that will fit through the front door. That said, I'd prefer the 20 but still give me a 3000-4000 watt inverter.

  • @Steve_Gunner
    @Steve_Gunner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bishin review!
    I really appreciate seeing how these are built.

  • @dougmac444
    @dougmac444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Nerd😊 Cheers from Vancouver 🇨🇦

  • @NOName-co2qh
    @NOName-co2qh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question about a base Montana 3123 with a residential refrigerator and basic solar/inverter. Assuming full sun and being towed for six hours, will the base solar and typical truck charging be enough app input to run the fridge and have enough energy remaining to operate the slides and landing gear? Assuming two group 27 lead acid batteries in good condition.
    Thanks for the tour, I've always thought the Montana's were the best value.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      The truck power alone will run that fridge for any length of transit
      No solar needed

  • @riddlemethis8237
    @riddlemethis8237 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the way they are built.
    What year did the company start with current construction practices.
    Looking for used RV.

  • @WilliamNau
    @WilliamNau ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You spent a couple minutes showing the use of luan and not Azdel. A year ago I had a conversation with a VP from one of the manufacturers who claimed while Azdel has some benefits, luan is still superior in larger side walls and screw retention. He went on to say the main reason Azdel has suddenly become more widely used is due to cost and supply issues with luan. (His units are Azdel on both wall sides.) Is this something you could do a video on and get to the truth?

  • @stevez340
    @stevez340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Montana has so many of the quality standard features that I hope Go>Play RVs will someday have👍except for the OSB roofing which gets spongy when exposed to water😢

  • @marginbuu212
    @marginbuu212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a desk in my slide. It's a small 48" x 24" desk that has me facing towards the bedroom when I sit down. It's doable.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome. Good to know. TY

  • @treymetzger
    @treymetzger ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I didn't think of when I first started looking at rvs, was while residential fridges are nice, if it goes out (likely around year 3-5), it's not fitting through the door! Slide out! $$

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Montana was generally good about making sure they could go out the door

  • @peteengard9966
    @peteengard9966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would choose the 12v fridge. Can you option disc brakes and 9K axles? How about low profile A/C with a heat pump?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Disc brakes are part of the Legacy package. They’ve been doing AC heat pumps for years.

  • @chadkoller7809
    @chadkoller7809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video again. We bought a Intech Expedition and I love the aluminum roof on ours, but the only thing I don’t like is a need to put plywood down to walk on it

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is nice having one that’s just walkable for sure. Intech makes nice stuff though

  • @RichS-p6q
    @RichS-p6q 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    21:29 still no shock absorbers? No wonder they bounce down the road.

  • @christophermiller987
    @christophermiller987 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Josh ! Awesome factory tour ! Thnx !

  • @toolgirl30
    @toolgirl30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also what are the new tables? I want to do the same in my camper. Like what are the brackets under it called? Thanks for all these videos!!!!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure of a specific name. Sorry.

    • @toolgirl30
      @toolgirl30 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshtheRVNerd No problem. Your videos are awesome!! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge!!

  • @kckettridge
    @kckettridge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Josh, could you possibly do a factory tour for the mid-line Cougars sometime)? Someone did do a factory tour video for the 1/2-ton line, but they are not the same as the mid-line units.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely on my list of things to do. Thank you.

  • @Technocrat.
    @Technocrat. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd get the 12 volt fridge but also add the converter as an upgrade with the huge solar upgrade and lithium batteries. I'm sure that would add 20k extra on top. Lithium batteries alone can cost up to 12k.

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings and glad tidings! Great video, as always!! I do not do well with the off-gassing from OSB, how have they addressed this in their floor and ceiling decking?
    Thanks!!!
    When will we see a Bish's in Washington State?
    Tony

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve not heard of any manufactured, doing anything significantly different in that regard

  • @TanyaRando
    @TanyaRando 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was really interesting to see, thankyou. The Montana is one of my favourites of those I've seen. #nerdherd

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @philforder7810
    @philforder7810 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could not agree more, not only mini split, which is a great system, tried & true! Yet, there are other alternatives like 12 volt A/Cs!

  • @cindyonyoutube
    @cindyonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed this thorough tour - thanks Josh! #Nerdstradamus #NerdHerd

  • @thelosttexan1912
    @thelosttexan1912 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, I always enjoy seeing how different companies put their RV’s together.
    As far as the Fridge question: I’m all about the 18 cubic foot residential fridge with the 2000w inverter. 18 cubic foot is plenty enough room for cold storage. Plus that’s one less thing you have to add to your solar system package and you’ll have power to all your outlets even when you’re not hooked up to shore power. We have the 18cu residential fridge that came with a 2000w inverter 30a mppt charger and 2 - 220w solar panels. Obviously we can’t run the AC’s but I don’t have to worry about my fridge not running or making sure I turn it on in time to load up for the trip. We love having the residential fridge and inverter.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Normally I'd prefer just a 12v fridge as I feel it is more flexible. But including a 2k inverter is.. interesting. Allows for some handy add'l benefits
      Still not great for boondocking of course

    • @thelosttexan1912
      @thelosttexan1912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshtheRVNerd oh of course! I could never imagine going full off grid with our current factory solar setup. I’m just happy we can travel with our fridge on and not be a Judas Priest violator (using propane and propane accessories ~ Hank Hill). I’ve been watching so many lithium battery and solar system videos that I could put a system together that would probably still burn down the house because even though I did stay at a holiday Inn Express I still don’t have the real knowledge or experience. 😂 But I’m learning.

  • @keitholson6849
    @keitholson6849 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video Josh, very informative. We have a 2022 3791rd and I've never seen how they're built. Where is it that you are located? Thanks for the tour/information!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My home store is in southern Michigan but we have about 23 locations nationwide now

  • @Denis-tu1pd
    @Denis-tu1pd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    18 cubic frig so I get the 2000 watt inverter for the plugs. In this case a little less is more. Denis from Santa Rosa CA.

  • @TeachAllNations
    @TeachAllNations ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Josh, where can I find some of those vortex ceiling registers?
    I checked Etrailer and Amazon but I don't see them.
    I'd like to replace the old style ones in my RV.

  • @Roamateaze
    @Roamateaze 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Josh… great channel. Was watching a clip on wife’s account. Was a Montana model… you asked opinion or question about would buyer choose a 18cu ft on inverter vs 20 cu ft on 12V. Do you have another video I’m not seeing explaining difference? Thanks Tim

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      18cu ft is a 110 residential fridge. It includes a 2,000w inverter that is run to the prepped outlets
      The 20cu ft is a 12v only and doesn't require an inverter. So it's larger, but the outlets only work when plugged into shore power

  • @paulritchie8480
    @paulritchie8480 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Montana 3231CK is the model and the one we own !!!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍🏻

    • @josephbosler3677
      @josephbosler3677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a 2021 3231ck love it.would not chang anything

  • @tracythompson3345
    @tracythompson3345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Josh, have you done a video on the Keystone Montana 295RL?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Slightly dated but here you go m.th-cam.com/video/jrr1seB_eUg/w-d-xo.html

  • @madweazl
    @madweazl ปีที่แล้ว

    Do all Legacy models come with the molded rear caps? If non-automotive paint, do they look the same as standard Montanas or is there a different decal package?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most do
      The ones that don’t have those rear cargo slide out trays and they don’t have a cap that fits it

  • @Facebookfaye
    @Facebookfaye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have sailun tires on our keystone Fuzion Chrome….2016 model! Original set!

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sailuns work pretty nicely

  • @larryjanson4011
    @larryjanson4011 ปีที่แล้ว

    here is a thought. when you were talking about how the crimp works. could montana get a "lesser" radius for there 90% for the pex to connect to? as the tight 90 they are using can restrict the flow, and cause a drop in usable pressure. as well as make the water pump work harder.
    that's good having a door that everything can fit through. as not everybody likes a lumpy mattress. or just maybe wants to bring in there comfy arm chair.
    i would go big. 20cft. as need space to hold food so i can be out there for 4 weeks or longer.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good insight on the elbow bends.. passing that along

  • @lauragough1174
    @lauragough1174 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tour.

  • @randy5766
    @randy5766 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m still not totally convinced about solar power production on RVs. Many people love to boondock. Hence, in the woods, along shaded river banks, in hunting or fishing seasons, then solar power production is low due to shade, low sun angles and even extended cloudy days going into a week or better. Two acquaintances have solar packages on their 2022 & 23 RVs. Both have generators to make sure power is available for their refrigerators. Luckily on my 2020 Cougar, my refrigerator is gas or electric. Their experience hasn’t been all that great with solar.

  • @philforder7810
    @philforder7810 ปีที่แล้ว

    12 volt refrigerator all day long, no question!!!
    Thank you for the true look at the Montana!
    Question to you, Josh, Brinkley or Montana?,?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda depends on which layout I'm looking at. Neither is really ever the wrong call

  • @ejmtnt
    @ejmtnt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Josh, what’s up with all the wood?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nearly no RV uses no wood. Frankly most "laminated" RVs still use wood in the front/rear walls or roof/floor.

  • @texillini1
    @texillini1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty paint schemes

  • @coyotewayne1
    @coyotewayne1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Josh. Maybe you can do one for the construction of the High Country model. I have a 2022 331rl and had the roof replaced because they don't build them like what you showed in this video and my roof panels were all popping up and had to be replaced. Seems they take a lot of shortcuts to make them lighter and cheaper.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Construction of HC is the same really. It’s just a matter of appointments

  • @John-te4nu
    @John-te4nu ปีที่แล้ว

    With the solar and batteries should have the residential frig

  • @philip48230
    @philip48230 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice presentation.

  • @markthompson2079
    @markthompson2079 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah pex is great but I would pay a couple hundred more for brass pex fittings. I use pex a lot and pay extra for the stainless steel rings as they do last longer. But I use mainly 1 inch stuff. But I'm more old school than most.

    • @josephdavis4008
      @josephdavis4008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see where Brinkley is the first in the industry to start using brass pro fittings. Be nice if Keystone followed suit. PLUS a great selling point! I too would pay a few hundred extra for it!

  • @charliebrushwood9019
    @charliebrushwood9019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry Josh didnt know how to contact ya. is there a travel trailer out there use like a car ev battery to plug in and charge and run every off it. Thanks for what you do.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a perfectly fine way to reach me! No worries!
      There are some RVs with different types of batteries. I'm not sure exactly what some EV's use
      But things like the Winnebago FLX package or Rockwood Power Package use some different types/systems

  • @davidketterer5519
    @davidketterer5519 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this tour specific to Full Monty or do they uses these same manufacturing processes/principles in High Country and Legacy just different cabinets trim etc or are the HC and Legacy completely different.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Legacy is just trim atop a full Monty. So made right here
      HC follows same practices in its own plant

  • @vbarranch4424
    @vbarranch4424 ปีที่แล้ว

    If not using a CNC router what are they using that won't cause cracks? I seriously doubt the router would lead to cracks unless not using proper coolant and air blast

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Like most RVs, their hand, routed with jigs and cuts are framed out

  • @gebertg
    @gebertg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it would be an interesting video comparing and contrasting construction differences between Montana and Cougar. It seems like they have the same bones and construction process, but Montana has "higher end" interiors. Maybe there's something else we aren't seeing?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got you m.th-cam.com/video/lj-78DQLs_E/w-d-xo.html
      That’s slightly dated but mostly still holds up

    • @gebertg
      @gebertg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshtheRVNerd thanks!

  • @robertburns5145
    @robertburns5145 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a fan of Montana’s but I wish they were wide body like Alliance or the Jayco Pinnacle and had full-size Insignia stoves.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're one of the few luxury FW brands that hasn't gone to wide body. North point recently made the switch.
      Montana's sister, Alpine, is wide body so perhaps they're trying to remain differently

  • @kevinrice2721
    @kevinrice2721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's obvious why Montana has the rep and sales it does for full timers and snowbirds.
    I just have it in my head I don't want to limit myself for sites and a small couples fifth wheel will be my "last" rv after a dozen in my family or I owned.
    Montana gonna make a tiny one ;)
    And 12v fridge.
    Even if I bought a used rv, I want a 12v. More than enough experience with old style, even fancy old style like on my 34J Bounder with the 3 way fridge.
    Replacing old boards with a dragon lord or replacing the entire back cooling unit on the gas /electric, been there done that.

  • @Timothy_Smith
    @Timothy_Smith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That montana floorplan looks like a 3231CK

  • @craigwalters-mb7er
    @craigwalters-mb7er ปีที่แล้ว

    Josh, what are the first and second most popular lines of fifth wheels among Full-Time RVers? If you would be so kind, would you tell me the maker and line, for example, Keystone Montana, or Keystone Montana High Country, or Keystone Cougar, or Jayco Eagle ........ Also, is there a wide margin between the first and second most popular lines? My wife and I are currently looking at fifth wheels and I'm really interested in what other Full-Time RVers are buying. Thank you.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure who is second. I know Montana remains the most frequently chosen for full timing

    • @mattspring2119
      @mattspring2119 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why doesn’t anyone use spray foam for insulation????

  • @rogergraves242
    @rogergraves242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Front bedroom rear living

  • @jos.4276
    @jos.4276 ปีที่แล้ว

    Van Leigh, Brinkley, or Montana, then. This was helpful.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already have a Brinkley factory tour and vanleigh towables was shuttering last I knew

  • @billmartin4602
    @billmartin4602 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The bedroom slide being more reliable is a good thing because it is impossible to operate manually. I’m sure the manual system works just fine but getting a human body in position to engage the tool into the motors ain’t gonna happen. I have a 2024 3123RL.

  • @horizonofcuriosity1982
    @horizonofcuriosity1982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I'm Diego from Brazil! Is there any company that "factory" the (RV or other models) the way I design or just sell their models! because I have ideas to make one of my taste! Is there any site where I can assemble my model! where does each part go and etc...!??

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Customization is really not available from the types of builders you see on this channel. But there are some. They tend to be quite spendy as a result as it turns out

  • @Technocrat.
    @Technocrat. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If they used heat pump AC's then you wouldn't need floor heating, except a wall heating duct to the sub floor for winter heating.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Standard furnace heating still helps protect the tanks in the belly

  • @mggoose2000
    @mggoose2000 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d love to see a factory tour for the Cougar line…

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Man.. i really am overdue on that
      Like several years overdue

  • @timf6916
    @timf6916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, good information.

  • @backcountryboondockers
    @backcountryboondockers ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. 32 years manufacturing/welding. Retired. Not impressed with the aluminum welding.

  • @Uncle_Dale_Adventures
    @Uncle_Dale_Adventures ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever done a Cougar Fifth Wheel factory tour?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not YET but it's on my list of things to accomplish.. which I feel grows instead of shrinks

  • @Cowboy47
    @Cowboy47 ปีที่แล้ว

    #NerdHerd ❤ ❤ ❤ We love are Montana 🎉 😊

  • @toolgirl30
    @toolgirl30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it the 3132 CK

  • @HemiDad1963
    @HemiDad1963 ปีที่แล้ว

    We would get the 12volt fridge. We will 99% camp with full hookups. So my truck battery will power the fridge while traveling and the shore power will at the camp grounds.

  • @davidmoore1086
    @davidmoore1086 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2023 Montana 3231CK. Because we just bought one.

  • @craigbrown3707
    @craigbrown3707 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3901RK

  • @meggewatts
    @meggewatts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Josh, I love you man but we played a drinking game every time you said “uh” we drink and after reviewing the aluminum structures I am on my way to the emergency room to get my stomach pumped out.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s the down side to being unscripted
      Juggling a lot in my head and my mouth tends to move faster
      Then my default neutral brain gear is uhhhhhh
      That’s the sound of my brain idling

    • @meggewatts
      @meggewatts ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoshtheRVNerd you do great!!! I really appreciate the efforts you put in to be fair and unbiased yet promote as well.

  • @PK-nn3sx
    @PK-nn3sx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cedar Creeks are much better built hence I do reckon that they are better value for the money. Keystones, Jaycos and many others are mere eye candies.

  • @GMRVC1
    @GMRVC1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of the process will be the same from RV to RV
    But which would you rather use if you were building an RV folks...if quality and longevity and not price was the main factor in your decision making process?
    Floors & Roof -- OSB vs T&G Plywood ?
    Radiat Barrier -- Astrofoil (w/ air bubbles) vs hot dog paper?
    Hardware -- Screws vs pin-nails ?
    Roof trusses -- All wood or a mix of wood and hollow aluminum channeling
    Vacuum bonding lamination vs pinch rolling ?
    American tires or chinese tires?
    Should I continue ?

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're spot on really

  • @KelvinAung95
    @KelvinAung95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im converting mine

  • @tankscrittersandurbanhomes5579
    @tankscrittersandurbanhomes5579 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I still truly don't understand why rvs are still using such outdated ac systems. A mini split uses half of the electricity and is massively more efficient.

    • @andre9191
      @andre9191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would anyone care of the operating cost when electricity is included with your site. Year round or daily sites. The Mfg can probably buy a lot of traditional a/c’s for a better cost than heat pumps. For a home? Sure. 😊

    • @bugmanmech
      @bugmanmech ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@andre9191 My full time site has it's own meter. I pay the electricity. FYI

    • @pdirv
      @pdirv ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hard to pack a detailed response into a reasonably sized comment, but in my best attempt:
      1. Cost; an RV owner can buy a 13.5K A/C unit without a heat pump for ~$1,000 and with a heat pump for under $1,500 pretty easily, and everything is self contained except the ducting. So call it $2,500 - $3,000 for 27K BTU with heat pumps . A decent split unit setup with say 3 zones ( say one for the rear, one for the front and one for the middle to try and balance things ) for the same BTU's will be probably closer to $4,000.
      2. Installation/Logistics; Instead of ducting in the roof, you're going to need to to run the lines through the floor/roof and the walls of the RV. But before that, where is the main unit going to go? On the rear of the coach where someone could mess with it? Under the coach where it could be damaged during transit, on top of the coach somehow where it can also be damaged? Then, you'll be dealing with a heck of a time if anything goes wrong with the lines like they develop a leak. These are issues I've come across with clients of mine who have bought tiny homes, some who moved it just once and had an issue with the split system, or some who tried to use it like a trailer and move it to multiple locations when it really wasn't built for that.
      3A. Current hardware on the market; In larger coaches that have power management systems ( where essentially the entire coach is electric, cooktop, water heaters, etc ), these units wouldn't work as they are designed now, but with some modification it's possible they could. So what you could use that's available on the market now might be good for a smaller lower power draw situations at best.
      3B. If you contact a customer service department for a split unit and ask about their warranty coverage on an RV, or anything like a tiny home that's in transit, you may find you have no coverage right out of the door. Similar for how certain appliance companies don't warranty their appliances in an RV based on where the appliance is installed in the RV ( IE on/behind a rear axle ). Again, this could be improved with design enhancements, but just something to think about with the hardware currently on the market.
      4. Who is going to service the split unit? If your instinct is that another benefit of the split is that it could be serviced by a residential air conditioning company, I would first say to contact your local company and then see if they would service one in your house if it wasn't installed by them, and then ask them if they would service it in an RV. Probably as soon as you say RV, they'll say no. This was the problem Coleman dealt with on their "residential" air conditioning system that was used in the early 2000s. Well that problem and the way most manufacturers handled the ducting. But the idea then was that you would have this residential system that a residential HVAC tech could deal with. In reality though, just because it had the word "residential" didn't make any HVAC company more willing to work on it once they heard it was in an RV.
      So in summary, until the RV industry could work with and get HVAC companies to proactively commit to working on their units, which would involve all sorts of things that aren't going to happen including part standardization, etc you're not going to see much progress, especially since the Coleman was closer to a residential system or a smaller commercial system, that could checked all the boxes the split unit attracts, and then some, yet still couldn't gain any momentum.
      I would say in a tiny home, or a retrofit to an RV that is parked at a permanent site, if the servicing of the unit is thought about ahead of time, a split unit might be the way to go in certain situations.
      Also, for what it's worth in regards to efficiency, while rooftop RV units aren't required to have things like SEER ratings to compare to a split unit, largely due to their size I believe, you may find that in an RV you wouldn't get the efficiency the split unit was rated for anyway, as those units are tested in residential type configurations ( building and insulation materials ) , and maybe more importantly those SEER ratings involve seasons I believe so most people aren't living in a fixed area with their RV, and even those who do aren't in an RV that is built the same as a home from an insulation perspective, so you may not find such a noticeable difference in "the real world".
      I'm not sure what you meant by "uses half of the electricity" unless you meant overall monthly usage by the efficiency, but in the end, if you meant something like wattage per advertised BTU while in use, again when running for a month versus the rooftop units, my experience through my clients who are paying for long-term/permanent sites that have the split units installed and are paying for their electric isn't that they're saving a ton of money per month by having the unit, and in the summer it's your primary contributor to electric costs.

    • @Technocrat.
      @Technocrat. ปีที่แล้ว

      There are 12 volt AC's as well.

    • @BurntBillyofWV
      @BurntBillyofWV ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually. There are a lot of campgrounds converting to paid electric now and not including power with the lot since more and more manufacturers are starting to go electric fully with no propane. So why not start making these things more efficient by updating the AC/heat pump technologies. Can’t stay stuck in the past much longer. Times are changing fast.

  • @jimlarkin1400
    @jimlarkin1400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Residential always

  • @robertnelson9505
    @robertnelson9505 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3231 floor plan

    • @robertnelson9505
      @robertnelson9505 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m buying one next month. Love the floor plan

  • @danbakke4495
    @danbakke4495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought Montana had an all welded aluminum frame? But according to this. It looks like they don't, at least on some of their RV's

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The walls are. That's a funny thing about this industry -- SO MANY rvs who talk about "welded aluminum frames" are referencing ONLY the sidewalls
      That's why I like to do these factory tours - you really learn more about what's under the skin this way

  • @aroundthegroundlandscaping7107
    @aroundthegroundlandscaping7107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don’t these companies use on demand tankless water heaters

  • @laura7053
    @laura7053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉#NerdHerd

  • @gaziger007
    @gaziger007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a bone to pick with you. You stated that Montana doesn't use "garden hose" tubing but it is clearly evident in the video. The white braided hose, attached with Pex clamps, is located behind the water panel. That is a KNOWN failure point in water systems. Why did you say it wasn't present? I'm a RV tech/inspector is this is something I look for, especially during an inspection, but as a tech I see this as a failure point in many RVs.

  • @greg2e889
    @greg2e889 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey Josh, well done video however, if it's not azdel it's not Good. Alliance and Brinkley are walking all over these guys.

  • @larryjanson4011
    @larryjanson4011 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would love to buy a montana ...but the price has me out of the market.

  • @b67fstb
    @b67fstb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those 5th wheels and RVs are built with the minimum specs.Even the tires barely meet specs. Thats why there are so many complains about quality of RVs these days( and late years).

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quick note: All tires now have to exceed GVWR by 10% though that definitely wasn't previously the case years ago

  • @jimlarkin1400
    @jimlarkin1400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dicor needs to go the way of the dodo bird, start using comercial roofing and sealers way better and don't have to climb up every 6 months to gob more dicor on

  • @jmwintenn
    @jmwintenn ปีที่แล้ว

    sailun is a chinese company/tire.

  • @MikeStJohn-du5ue
    @MikeStJohn-du5ue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 volt and more solar.

    • @JoshtheRVNerd
      @JoshtheRVNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏻
      What seems like the right level of minimum Solar understanding these are commonly used in parks

  • @Rexerito
    @Rexerito ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3231CK

  • @tp0376
    @tp0376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3231 ck