wired please NEVER stop making these - specifically the ones about ancient civilizations and scientific experts. i'm OBSESSED and have learned so much edit: wow people are really upset at this comment. i hope you all never feel the joy of wholeheartedly enjoying things, as it appears you hate when others experience it!
@@starcapture3040 He said parts of it were correct, while also acknowledging that it is based on a graphic novel. At no point did he say that it is completely true to how life was then. It ain't hard to understand.
Christesen was one of my professors in undergrad, he was my favorite! He was such a talented and engaging lecturer and I’m glad that translated well to this TH-cam video
Just a reminder that Assassins Creed is INCREDIBLY well researched and it shows. I had multiple art history professors use it as visual references, and I use it now in my lectures!
No, the game is loosely based on American/Canadian perception of Ancient Greece, not authentic historical Ancient Greece. The game is full of historical mistakes and “wokeness”.
Hello there, im greek and id like to share an experience i had three months ago. So, my family is orthodox (im an atheist) and we had a very traditional funeral for my beloved grandmother. In the middle of the ceremony I saw my aunt (her daughter) putting a coin inside her clothes. I was really amazed about the action so i asked why she gave her money since she is dead. Then, she looks at me and says "when she is in the underworld she has to pay God Hades to open the Heave's doors". Im not gonna lie, i completely freaked out. Its actually amazing how the modern greek traditions are a combination of ancient greek culture and orthodoxy. Especially, in big traditional events, we still have kept a lot of paganistic elements. Greek culture will always amaze me.
My dude... you have no idea how many paganistic elements Christianity as a whole has adopted. Christianity today is deffinetly not the same Christianity jesus was preaching about.
Μου θυμισες το ανεκδοτο με το Χριστιανο που πεφτει απο το αεροπλανο και προσευχεται στο Χριστο να τον σωσει και 10 μετρα πριν το εδαφος αρχιζει να προσευχεται στο Βουδα.
It's not so much the library as in the structure, but the contents. Papyrus only lasts so long, especially since Alexandria is port city, so it takes a lot of material and labor to preserve works through constant copying. I read years ago that even the Library of Congress with its enormous budget and resources is still limited in what it can preserve, with some works at risk of being lost media. You can't keep everything forever. A generation or so without maintenance in ancient times could be the end of the collection.
Under my study abroad program last year, I went to Greece (Athens, Delphi, Nafplion, Olympia) where we all learned the history of ancient sport and culture in Greece, as well as the history of the ancient Greek Olympics. I have gained such a monumental and insightful perspective on what it means to play and compete in sport as a collective narrative with humans. There is so much to know about the ancient Greek Olympics, and the history of the modern Olymics!
Please bring him back! I just went to Greece in May and fell in love with the beauty of the ruins! The Acropolis was gorgeous and hearing his stories brings me back to all of the tours I took!
Charon is like uber, pay upfront or no pickup. Unlike uber, he did have a no tip policy so that balanced things out. Also, you were dead so he did not care if you liked the service.
21:00 The ancient Greeks fished in the Aegean which is very rich in fish. they were always fishermen and farmers. They also had herds of animals, sheep, goats, etc.
@@faribrathwaite7080 Well technically they are both right: Greeks fished a lot, but at a small and local scale, and had cattle for sure, like when they sacrifice 100 ox for rituals. Now if you compare the Greeks to western Europe in the middle ages, Greeks were not big fishermen and didn't have massive cattle. So fish and meat where common in Greece, but not predominent in the everyday food
I was born and raised in Greece and my favorite philosopher is Anaximander, known for illustrating very abstract (for the time) concepts like infinity and "nothing" as the world's 5th classical element (later to become "aether"). Pythagoras was also his most prominent student. I also love Epicurus, mostly known for his school of thought based on moderation / avoidance of overindulgence of worldly pleasures in order to achieve peak happiness
On the top of mount Olympus, in the peak theres "the throne of Zeus", it has a shape like the letter C and in the center theres the "seat" and even has a headrest, it actually looks like a throne on the highest altitude of Greece.
When I was playing AC odyssey I loved exploring all the building and statutes. Watching the behind the scenes video you saw they really tried to replicate all the buildings.
@@skanderbeg152 They actually helped out with the reconstruction of Notre Dame after the fire a couple of years ago! They'd mapped it out in a lot of detail for one of their games and sent the documents to the teams figuring out how to make the roof again. I thought that was super cool when I found out and makes me respect the team way more (not that I didn't already)
5:05 this one hurt me😭..... in Italy they use to teach us about Iliad and Odyssey when we are toddlers making us read kid versions of them and later on in middle school we also have an entire subject about ancient greek epics to better understand western civilization and its origins
What he mentioned about killing 100 cows made its way to Romance languages as HECATOMBE, with the meaning of “tragedy” or large loss of life. Not very common in English apparently.
We don't know for sure whether the Minoans spoke Greek or not. Their language isn't deciphered. The ancient Greeks did not consider Minoans as something foreign to them. There are plenty of myths about king Minos and Zeus. If i am not mistaken, Minos and his brother became the judges of the Greek Hades. Once upon a time, we thought the same about Myceneans, until the Linear B script got deciphered and it was proven that their language was indeed Greek.
We also don't know if Minos was a Minoan. That is: we don't know if the guy on whom the legends about Minos were based, spoke Mycenean Greek or whatever language that was written with Linear A.
@@nerevarlambo You mean @Filonikis? If yes, sorry you're wrong. First if all he is Greek so he knows better than you. Secondly, I agree with him. I'm Greek as well and also a history and linguistics nut. No offence but we know better than you since you don't seem to be Greek.
That´s true! As far as I´m aware the argument usually goes soemthing like this: if we assume that the signs in Linear A stand for the same sounds as in Linear B, we get something that is definitely not a known language. Greek is also, let´s be honest, not a language that is well suited to be written in Linear B, and there are signs that when people started to do that, they needed to adjust somewhat, so once again, this would point to the older of the two systems to have been developed for a language that wasn´t Greek. Or at least that was the scholarly consensus, when I last had anything to do with the field, five to ten years ago. But you are right, the matter isn´t finally settled, and people were indeed spectacularly wrong about Linear B!
The current consensus does not support the Minoan Language being Greek. Using mythology as a evidence for Greek language is a laughable method. The Iliad portrays the Achaean and Trojan sides as speaking a mutually intelligible language when LBA Wilusa (Troy) most likely spoke Luwian. The story of King Midas is about a Phrygian king that would have spoken Phrygian.
20:17 The page has five pillars but he only points out three. The other two specifically are Roman: The Tuscan is made plainer than the Doric (but incidentally more stable), and the Composite which is a mix of Ionic and Corinthian. But the Greeks should definitely get credit for the main three. Shout out to any fellow travelers who have to learn that to the right of the east.
Absolutely. The Colosseum is also estimated at being able to house 50-80k people. Currently there are eleven stadiums in the world with a capacity of 100k, eight of which are in the USA, but the largest is in India with a capacity of 132k. The Wiki page on largest stadiums lists 313 stadiums over 50k in capacity.
Greek building vocabulary maybe became popular in the 1800s in the USA, but in Europe we have been returning to Ancient Greece and Rome since forever (most notably since the renaissance - hence the name).
as soon as he was asked what event in ancient Greece he'd most like to take part in, I was hoping he'd say theaters. I love Aristophanes and also Euripides especially so to hear Aristophanes name dropped in such an all audiences kind of setting was a real delight. :) brekekekex koax koax 🐸
Just to add on a bit to the part about Assassin's Creed: The city of Athens was so well constructed in the game that historians have actually used it for research purposes.
Alexander was never a greek, he was macedonian. Macedonians were never greeks. Macedonians were hated and despised. Alexander 3 was a foreign invader for the greeks.
@@Aristonika9999 He had a Greek name, spoke Greek, campained FOR Greece against the Persians, spread the Greek culture, wrote in Greek, his name means NOTHING to you as it is a Greek word. Just like Alexander the 1st and 2nd....You were just fed a story and its ok. Just like flat earthers...
@@ΒασιληςΜολακιδης The Greeks had trading colonies in Macedonia on the coast. They also had coastal colonies in Thrace, Illyria and Epirus. But none of these countries were Greek and the people who lived there were not Greek. They were greatly influenced by Greek culture. Some of them took some elements of Greek culture, some more, some less. And someone took everything, like Epirus and Macedonia. Macedonia was influenced by the Dorian Greek culture. The kings of Macedonia, the royal dynasty adopted Greek culture. They imposed this culture on their population. And the language too, the Dorian dialect of the Greek language. For the Greeks, the Macedonians were barbarians, since the purpose of Macedonian life was war, hunting and military campaigns. And not agriculture, trade, various crafts, culture, and so on. Their mentality, way of thinking and way of life were barbaric for the Greeks. The Greeks also considered the Macedonians barbarians because of their drunkenness and because they drank unmixed wine in large quantities. The Greeks drank only wine mixed with water and drank it in such quantities so as not to lose control over themselves. For the Greeks, it was very important to have a sense of proportion in everything they did. The Macedonians didn't have that. The Macedonians took advantage of the weakness of the Greeks due to the Peloponnesian War and captured the Greek states. The Greeks did not ask the Macedonians to spread their culture. They themselves successfully did it in various ways without any Macedonian barbarians and without wars. The influence of Greek culture on different states, peoples and tribes, as well as the influence of all these people and cultures on the Greeks themselves, can be talked about for a very long time, this is a topic for dissertation. The main thing is that all this was without any participation of the Macedonians. They weren't needed for that. And they did not force anything on anyone. And they didn't want any war with Persia. They made peace with her several times.The ancient Macedonians were foreigners and stupid barbarian idiots who led the Hellenic civilization to ruin and destruction and to roman slavery. Alexander III of Macedon was an absolute idiot. He was too young, reckless and without life experience and did not understand all the consequences of his actions. And he was never a Greek, but a barbarian foreigner. I said the rest in my other two comments here. You can read them if you want.
@@ΒασιληςΜολακιδης They were hellenised. Macedonians were influenced by Dorian culture and borrowed the Dorian dialect of the Greek language and part of the Dorian culture. Native macedonian language was not greek. The Macedonian kings imposed Hellenization on their population. Most of the Macedonian nobility were of Thracian origin, as was most of the population. The capital of Macedonia, Pella, used to be the Thracian city of Bottia. Alexander's grandmother was a Thracian. His mother was an epirote. The Epirotes, by the way, were not Greeks either. They, too, were another people who voluntarily adopted Hellenic culture almost entirely. The Greeks did not want a war with the Persians. They made an alliance with them. They didn't need this war. And they spread their own culture, without the Macedonians. They formed their own trading colonies. They influenced many countries and peoples. And they did it without the Macedonians.
Highly debatable. His ideas and moral standards might fit more neatly into the modern West, but that by no means he was the best, and virtually no philosophers consider him as such. Aristotle is considered by most to be a much more substantial thinker.
@@clowyhills1870I dont believe thats what he said. It was brought up that humans were featherless, furless bipeds so he brought in a plucked chicken and presented as a human under that defintion as a joke. To the best of my understanding.
Fun fact: Athena Promachos had a different stance than the one shown in AC... In actuality, she was holding the spear over her head, ready to throw it at the enemies of Athens. You can actually see in Wikipedia how the statue probably looked like.
About Greek columns. At the art history class we were told that at first people used wood columns (trees) to support the house, somewhere with more wood available. And when they moved to Greece and started to build with stone, they just kept the tradition of using columns. Or something like that.
@@supermavro6072 Well, he was born in what is modern day Western Turkey, which was then part of the Greek world at the time. You could argue that he was "Roman", but to say that all the subjects of the Roman empire were true Romans is a pretty weak argument. Back then there weren't nation states like today. If you were born and raised in a Greek city (like he was), you were Greek.
He was Macedonian, not Greek. Macedonians were never Greeks. And Greeks did not want to have an empire, they had a polis system which they recreated everywhere. They didn't want to change it to something else because most of their achievements were possible due to the polis system.
@@Вика-з4ь5дMacedonians were Greeks and Greeks were imperialists except they were so busy killing each other to spread their own influence that they never managed to unite under one force before Alexander to have any luck building an empire. Even Alexander enforced it rather than earned it.
@@RevoltOfAges He didn''t though. He said that there were greeks communities outside of Alexander's empire, but that doesn't nullify the fact that the Macedonian empire was an empire, and that it was greek. To sum up simply, the question was about whether the Greeks had an empire, and the answer he provides is that the all the greeks communities were never unified under a single state, which is irrelevant
Thank you! You are good at this!--good sense of humor and clear delivery! I learned three things I wasn't clear about: Greece's not having an empire, how ostracism worked, and about the statue in Assassins Creed. The timeline was also helpful. Trying to get the ancient civilizations into a timeframe has always been hard for me. That was a great map too--helped me see where the Greek influence was strong!
I've seen perhaps 5 historians talk about ancient civilisations like Rome, Egypt, Alexander the Great, etc, etc and this guy is by far the most knowledgable and best explainer of concepts. He seems to genuinely like the culture. I've felt that many of the other historians barely like the people they are talking about and are kind of just regurgitating facts, this guy is awesome.
I didn’t know the origins of the word gymnasium. I think is funny because in Denmark and Norway they call high school exactly that; gymnasium (or more commonly gymnas)
14:50 The Minoans were Greeks and spoke Greek. It has been proven by the clay tablets with writing A and B. The Greeks are the native Mediterranean type of man for thousands of years in the same place.
I feel like this guy has dreamed of this moment his entire life. Dude lives to just teach everything he knows about his favorite subject. Got to respect him.
This guy is such a university professor, I died when he pulled out his visual aids haha. Really interesting answers and you can tell he loves his subject. 15/10
Didn't Eratosthenes actually "luck out" with his near spot-on estimate of Earth's circumference?? IIRC, all his math was solid except for ONE assumption that he couldn't prove: That Venus was a similar size to Earth. And it turns out it IS! At least close enough that Eratosthenes got a pretty darn accurate estimate
@@gekylafas IIRC, he used the distances between Earth and the Sun and then Venus and the Sun when our three bodies created a 90⁰ angle in space. But the way those calculations worked, he would only get an answer as accurate as the difference in circumferences between Earth and Venus
@@TheDylls That must have been another calculation. For the circumference of the Earth he just used the angle of two shadows on Earth at the same time and the distance between them.
The loss of the library at Alexandria still makes my scholar’s heart ache. My specialization is the human drive to oppress, but as a kid and adolescent I was addicted to the Greeks and Romans (not quite as much). I even took 5 years of Latin…Greek wasn’t offered in my then excellent public high school…in part because I wanted to become a physician. i even won a national competition in Greek and Roman mythology…that was many decades ago and adults involved expressed amazement that a “girl” won. I was not amused but also very pleased to upend their biases. I really enjoy these episodes…I learn something every time and it brings back happy memories. BTW Minoan art is wonderful if you haven’t seen it.
I think the best period to live in Greece was the Hellenistic period of great diadochi empires. All the know world was united under the control of greeks, philosophers, scientists and artists had the chance to have contact with eastern civilizations and have access to their documents, and the riches was at a point that greek world became more and more soft because of peaceful periods that romans defeat them without much effort.
Regarding gymnasiums: also, if your only option other than exercising in the buff is to get your workout sweat soaked into natural fiber clothing when you don't have a washing machine or modern detergent, nude is a much less stinky option. Way easier to clean sweat off of a person than out of a khitōn.
zoom in, zoom out. zoom in, zoom out. i appreciate the effort of the edit, but doing these quick zooms so often doesn’t make this more interesting when it happens so often to me. just gets kind of annoying. anyways it’s always cool to hear an expert speak on subjects. thank you
I’m always entertained by the sheer amount of TH-cam commenters that are apparently also professors of history. Not that every professor is right, but throw up a source if you’re going to vehemently disagree.
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wired please NEVER stop making these - specifically the ones about ancient civilizations and scientific experts. i'm OBSESSED and have learned so much
edit: wow people are really upset at this comment. i hope you all never feel the joy of wholeheartedly enjoying things, as it appears you hate when others experience it!
Same tbh
Same, i love the Egypt episode
100% agree.
same, i’m so invested in every one of them
If you're so obsessed, go read a book. Maybe 20 minutes youtube video that covers each question in two sentences isn't the best way to learn stuff
The best part of the series is you can tell everyone is so passionate about what their experts in
why do you think they’re experts lol
@@onekind3179there experts, ok!
he is telling you 300s is correct u kidding right?
@@starcapture3040he said PARTS were correct and he literally specified which parts bro
@@starcapture3040 He said parts of it were correct, while also acknowledging that it is based on a graphic novel. At no point did he say that it is completely true to how life was then. It ain't hard to understand.
Gyms with strict clothing policy are disrespecting their Greek ancestors.
Just yell 'Is this not a gymnasium?!' then drop trow.
Don't fret. People on TikTok, OnlyFans and Instagram are working on fixing that 😉
Exactly! Let your sausage fly while you're running.
@@gabor6259 LOL
well....only if they are owned by a Greek......dumbass
"Which we would consider to be a ~*felony*~" LMAO he's great
Yeah like, so DON'T get any ideas old man..
The only thing i hate about my ancestors
Came here to write the exact same thing😂
Good lesson to take away: maintain your local libraries
Surprise: moral is more or less arbitrary, different morals are products of times and societies.
Too short! We need like several hours of this guy!
The illiad is about the balance of thinking and acting.
I could listen to him for hours too!
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I love that the Greeks started what we now call voting people off the island
Genuinely the first instance of cancel culture 🤣
Known as "eksostrakismos"
@@NamelessGR in "English" : Ostracism (obviously a Greek word).
@C_R_O_M________ yeah that's how it's called in Greek
@@NamelessGR That's why I put quotation marks. I'm Greek as well.
Christesen was one of my professors in undergrad, he was my favorite! He was such a talented and engaging lecturer and I’m glad that translated well to this TH-cam video
A very woke guy!
@@C_R_O_M________ oh boo hoo the Ellinikí Lýsi member doesnt like history
What unit was that?
Just a reminder that Assassins Creed is INCREDIBLY well researched and it shows. I had multiple art history professors use it as visual references, and I use it now in my lectures!
I used the one game in Venice to navigate in real life Venice when I visited it for the first time 😂
Used to be well researched...
No, the game is loosely based on American/Canadian perception of Ancient Greece, not authentic historical Ancient Greece. The game is full of historical mistakes and “wokeness”.
@@mrxxinubisoft is a French company…
@@mrxxinThe makers of Assassin’s Creed are Canadian not American. Also, obviously the stories themselves aren’t realistic because it’s a game lol.
Request for an ancient Japanese/ samurai expert next.
@WIRED please please please could we have an ancient Japanese/ of samurai expert
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This is a wonderful suggestion!!
Please no. We have enough of this already….
Why not ancient China?
@@WilliamLaurensonbecause Shogun that’s whyyyyyyyyyy
Hello there, im greek and id like to share an experience i had three months ago. So, my family is orthodox (im an atheist) and we had a very traditional funeral for my beloved grandmother. In the middle of the ceremony I saw my aunt (her daughter) putting a coin inside her clothes. I was really amazed about the action so i asked why she gave her money since she is dead. Then, she looks at me and says "when she is in the underworld she has to pay God Hades to open the Heave's doors". Im not gonna lie, i completely freaked out. Its actually amazing how the modern greek traditions are a combination of ancient greek culture and orthodoxy. Especially, in big traditional events, we still have kept a lot of paganistic elements. Greek culture will always amaze me.
My dude... you have no idea how many paganistic elements Christianity as a whole has adopted. Christianity today is deffinetly not the same Christianity jesus was preaching about.
the christians destroy Hellas. Hellas and christianism dont go together
Μου θυμισες το ανεκδοτο με το Χριστιανο που πεφτει απο το αεροπλανο και προσευχεται στο Χριστο να τον σωσει και 10 μετρα πριν το εδαφος αρχιζει να προσευχεται στο Βουδα.
Is it not based more on Charon having to ferry you to the other side?
@@ghakim9 yes that's exactly why they place drachmas on the eyes of the dead.
Paul looks like a modern Julius Caesar
Hilarious 😂
he looks like a young michael j fox lol
Lol
Plot twist. He is Julius' decendent.
@@Chino-Kafuascendent?
Not enough! I need more historical facts. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Asia... All of it
they do have an ancient Egypt video
@@SomeoneBeginingWithI I already watched it. I need more ☺️
@@clarissakano.6265try the Great Courses on Audible. Many of them are also on TH-cam. Free education is incredibly easy to obtain.
@@clarissakano.6265 so go read some books
Kings and Generals has a fantastic 3+ hour-long video on Alexander the Great. It's incredible.
Professor Christesen is an engaging and detailed speaker and educator. I really enjoyed listening~ Greek history is so rich.
Nope , Greece is the poorest country in EU
@@supermavro6072 jealous bulgarian 🤣🤣🤣
@@supermavro6072βρε βρε το αλβανικό τρολάκι 🤣🤣🤣 καλά που ήρθες στην Ελλάδα και χόρτασες ψωμάκι βρε.🤣🤣🤣
@@supermavro6072 Greek HISTORY is rich. Greece presently is poor.
@@supermavro6072money can be acquired by culture and how much more likely is the culture of Greece when other countries are poor
I love how the “exact details” are unclear around one of the most important libraries in history. Just blows my mind!
There were quite a few libraries, some had better PR than others
It's not so much the library as in the structure, but the contents. Papyrus only lasts so long, especially since Alexandria is port city, so it takes a lot of material and labor to preserve works through constant copying. I read years ago that even the Library of Congress with its enormous budget and resources is still limited in what it can preserve, with some works at risk of being lost media. You can't keep everything forever. A generation or so without maintenance in ancient times could be the end of the collection.
@@LuDuxwhy haven’t we heard of them?
Well, if we don't know much about the library its hard to say its the most important
you mean, pirate bay ?
Under my study abroad program last year, I went to Greece (Athens, Delphi, Nafplion, Olympia) where we all learned the history of ancient sport and culture in Greece, as well as the history of the ancient Greek Olympics. I have gained such a monumental and insightful perspective on what it means to play and compete in sport as a collective narrative with humans. There is so much to know about the ancient Greek Olympics, and the history of the modern Olymics!
thats so cool! im looking to do a year abroad in greece at uni and i cant wait
as a greek I really appreciate how objective the professor is stating the facts both ways
seems a nice guy
Huh? Since being Greek makes you an expert on ancient Greek history or what?
@@florianfeige6323 there is literally no correlation between your comment and mine
@@xxTra0rDinaRy I can see why you'd think that.
@@florianfeige6323 no clue brother no clue
@@xxTra0rDinaRyhahah Jesus
Please bring him back! I just went to Greece in May and fell in love with the beauty of the ruins! The Acropolis was gorgeous and hearing his stories brings me back to all of the tours I took!
“Don’t pay the Ferryman
Until he gets you to the other side!”
Charon is like uber, pay upfront or no pickup. Unlike uber, he did have a no tip policy so that balanced things out. Also, you were dead so he did not care if you liked the service.
Should I fix a price?
@@WatchKek not until he gets you to the other side! (Don’t do it!)
@@DioneN AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaahahaHHH WOOOOooooooohhh
Chris De Burgh song as well
21:00 The ancient Greeks fished in the Aegean which is very rich in fish. they were always fishermen and farmers. They also had herds of animals, sheep, goats, etc.
that's true. I guess he meant that the aegean and the mediterranean seas aren't like the open ocean were you can find way more fish.
I’ll believe him before you
@@faribrathwaite7080 Well technically they are both right:
Greeks fished a lot, but at a small and local scale, and had cattle for sure, like when they sacrifice 100 ox for rituals.
Now if you compare the Greeks to western Europe in the middle ages, Greeks were not big fishermen and didn't have massive cattle. So fish and meat where common in Greece, but not predominent in the everyday food
@@fredericdehohenstaufen7874 that
He never said they did no fishing or had no livestock, he simply said it made up a small amount of their consumption
I was born and raised in Greece and my favorite philosopher is Anaximander, known for illustrating very abstract (for the time) concepts like infinity and "nothing" as the world's 5th classical element (later to become "aether"). Pythagoras was also his most prominent student. I also love Epicurus, mostly known for his school of thought based on moderation / avoidance of overindulgence of worldly pleasures in order to achieve peak happiness
I just love the name Anaximander. Ancient Greeks had some cool names.
I could listen to him explain Greece for hours
i just binged all the history videos and you give me this, thank you
On the top of mount Olympus, in the peak theres "the throne of Zeus", it has a shape like the letter C and in the center theres the "seat" and even has a headrest, it actually looks like a throne on the highest altitude of Greece.
If Zeus used that as a throne, that dude was MASSIVE
When I was playing AC odyssey I loved exploring all the building and statutes. Watching the behind the scenes video you saw they really tried to replicate all the buildings.
Ubisoft actually does a great job with the historical world building in their games, they try hard to keep it as accurate and historical as possible.
@@skanderbeg152 They actually helped out with the reconstruction of Notre Dame after the fire a couple of years ago! They'd mapped it out in a lot of detail for one of their games and sent the documents to the teams figuring out how to make the roof again. I thought that was super cool when I found out and makes me respect the team way more (not that I didn't already)
@@skanderbeg152 That is until their latest game: AC: Shadows.
@@joocleary4576 that's pretty cool
@@tams805No. Accuracy died with Valhalla. They brought it back a bit with Mirage. Shadows, we’ll see.
As a person who is interested in history, I love those videos about ancient civilization so much
5:05 this one hurt me😭..... in Italy they use to teach us about Iliad and Odyssey when we are toddlers making us read kid versions of them and later on in middle school we also have an entire subject about ancient greek epics to better understand western civilization and its origins
08:32 Yeah, well they were right.
Yeah, I felt called out 😬
What he mentioned about killing 100 cows made its way to Romance languages as HECATOMBE, with the meaning of “tragedy” or large loss of life. Not very common in English apparently.
In greek the word εκατομβη means 100 cows. Εκατο is a hundred and βους is cows which became is speaking language with an m - μ in between.
We don't know for sure whether the Minoans spoke Greek or not. Their language isn't deciphered. The ancient Greeks did not consider Minoans as something foreign to them. There are plenty of myths about king Minos and Zeus. If i am not mistaken, Minos and his brother became the judges of the Greek Hades.
Once upon a time, we thought the same about Myceneans, until the Linear B script got deciphered and it was proven that their language was indeed Greek.
The guy either doesnt know Greek history and culture or he does that on purpose. Propaganda.
We also don't know if Minos was a Minoan. That is: we don't know if the guy on whom the legends about Minos were based, spoke Mycenean Greek or whatever language that was written with Linear A.
@@nerevarlambo You mean @Filonikis? If yes, sorry you're wrong. First if all he is Greek so he knows better than you. Secondly, I agree with him. I'm Greek as well and also a history and linguistics nut. No offence but we know better than you since you don't seem to be Greek.
That´s true! As far as I´m aware the argument usually goes soemthing like this: if we assume that the signs in Linear A stand for the same sounds as in Linear B, we get something that is definitely not a known language. Greek is also, let´s be honest, not a language that is well suited to be written in Linear B, and there are signs that when people started to do that, they needed to adjust somewhat, so once again, this would point to the older of the two systems to have been developed for a language that wasn´t Greek. Or at least that was the scholarly consensus, when I last had anything to do with the field, five to ten years ago. But you are right, the matter isn´t finally settled, and people were indeed spectacularly wrong about Linear B!
The current consensus does not support the Minoan Language being Greek. Using mythology as a evidence for Greek language is a laughable method. The Iliad portrays the Achaean and Trojan sides as speaking a mutually intelligible language when LBA Wilusa (Troy) most likely spoke Luwian. The story of King Midas is about a Phrygian king that would have spoken Phrygian.
20:17 The page has five pillars but he only points out three. The other two specifically are Roman: The Tuscan is made plainer than the Doric (but incidentally more stable), and the Composite which is a mix of Ionic and Corinthian. But the Greeks should definitely get credit for the main three. Shout out to any fellow travelers who have to learn that to the right of the east.
That’s because Roman adopted most of Greek culture
Because the Romans entire world is influenced by Greece lol
Was waiting for ancient greece. Now i got it. Thanks Wired❤️ Keep going
Realy well done . He knows what he is speaking about and use facts only . As a Greek realy i want to see a part two with this professor
Man these are just never boring!
This was excellent. I knew pretty much everything he said already, but Ancient Greece is so fascinating listening to it all again is no chore.
This guy is wonderful, he has a great sense of humour but also gives really clear and concise answers
YES!!! Instead of sleeping at 3:41AM, why not watch something about Ancient Greece?
Omg yes same.
I'm a big ancient history buff and learned so much. I hope there's more!
You guys should do ancient China next!
50.000 people is wild considering, average Football stadiums in Europe usually around 30k to 40k
Dodger Stadium in LA seats about 55,000. And that's the largest baseball stadium in the US.
Probably didn't meet modern fire codes.
Absolutely. The Colosseum is also estimated at being able to house 50-80k people.
Currently there are eleven stadiums in the world with a capacity of 100k, eight of which are in the USA, but the largest is in India with a capacity of 132k.
The Wiki page on largest stadiums lists 313 stadiums over 50k in capacity.
... average seating capacity that is. Quite a few can accommodate much more, some over 100,000 for special events.
Not that surprising, 40,000 were killed in palestine
I study these subjects full time and have heard most of this over and over, but just couldn't stop watching. Kudos
"If Alexander was great, why did he die at 32?" Dude achieving so much at such a young age is the real deal.
omggg, I loveeee these videos. Please don't stop making them. I feel that I learn so much. I wish teachers could be this interesting.
Most probably are, so long as you're talking to them about the thing they care about most and they feel comfortable enough discussing it with you.
Well, they do have a syllabus to cover & limited period to get it finished. That's why they have to hustle & cover everything.
Greek building vocabulary maybe became popular in the 1800s in the USA, but in Europe we have been returning to Ancient Greece and Rome since forever (most notably since the renaissance - hence the name).
I love that people religiously refuse to call Twitter by its slave name.
It's a slow process
‘Slave name’ ? Remember Malcom X?
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The name of that company is now "X" like it or not, it is what it's new owner decided to rebrand it
@markwilson3697 thanks for explaining the joke and not understanding it at the same time. 😂
as soon as he was asked what event in ancient Greece he'd most like to take part in, I was hoping he'd say theaters. I love Aristophanes and also Euripides especially so to hear Aristophanes name dropped in such an all audiences kind of setting was a real delight. :) brekekekex koax koax 🐸
Just to add on a bit to the part about Assassin's Creed: The city of Athens was so well constructed in the game that historians have actually used it for research purposes.
Love this!! More Ancient Greek questions please!
The Greeks had an empire , the Greek Macedonian empire of Alexander and then for 300 years the empires of his succesors
Alexander was never a greek, he was macedonian. Macedonians were never greeks. Macedonians were hated and despised. Alexander 3 was a foreign invader for the greeks.
@@Aristonika9999 yeah ok....
@@Aristonika9999 He had a Greek name, spoke Greek, campained FOR Greece against the Persians, spread the Greek culture, wrote in Greek, his name means NOTHING to you as it is a Greek word. Just like Alexander the 1st and 2nd....You were just fed a story and its ok. Just like flat earthers...
@@ΒασιληςΜολακιδης The Greeks had trading colonies in Macedonia on the coast. They also had coastal colonies in Thrace, Illyria and Epirus. But none of these countries were Greek and the people who lived there were not Greek. They were greatly influenced by Greek culture. Some of them took some elements of Greek culture, some more, some less. And someone took everything, like Epirus and Macedonia. Macedonia was influenced by the Dorian Greek culture. The kings of Macedonia, the royal dynasty adopted Greek culture. They imposed this culture on their population. And the language too, the Dorian dialect of the Greek language. For the Greeks, the Macedonians were barbarians, since the purpose of Macedonian life was war, hunting and military campaigns. And not agriculture, trade, various crafts, culture, and so on. Their mentality, way of thinking and way of life were barbaric for the Greeks. The Greeks also considered the Macedonians barbarians because of their drunkenness and because they drank unmixed wine in large quantities. The Greeks drank only wine mixed with water and drank it in such quantities so as not to lose control over themselves. For the Greeks, it was very important to have a sense of proportion in everything they did. The Macedonians didn't have that. The Macedonians took advantage of the weakness of the Greeks due to the Peloponnesian War and captured the Greek states.
The Greeks did not ask the Macedonians to spread their culture. They themselves successfully did it in various ways without any Macedonian barbarians and without wars. The influence of Greek culture on different states, peoples and tribes, as well as the influence of all these people and cultures on the Greeks themselves, can be talked about for a very long time, this is a topic for dissertation. The main thing is that all this was without any participation of the Macedonians. They weren't needed for that. And they did not force anything on anyone. And they didn't want any war with Persia. They made peace with her several times.The ancient Macedonians were foreigners and stupid barbarian idiots who led the Hellenic civilization to ruin and destruction and to roman slavery. Alexander III of Macedon was an absolute idiot. He was too young, reckless and without life experience and did not understand all the consequences of his actions. And he was never a Greek, but a barbarian foreigner. I said the rest in my other two comments here. You can read them if you want.
@@ΒασιληςΜολακιδης They were hellenised. Macedonians were influenced by Dorian culture and borrowed the Dorian dialect of the Greek language and part of the Dorian culture. Native macedonian language was not greek. The Macedonian kings imposed Hellenization on their population. Most of the Macedonian nobility were of Thracian origin, as was most of the population. The capital of Macedonia, Pella, used to be the Thracian city of Bottia. Alexander's grandmother was a Thracian. His mother was an epirote. The Epirotes, by the way, were not Greeks either. They, too, were another people who voluntarily adopted Hellenic culture almost entirely.
The Greeks did not want a war with the Persians. They made an alliance with them. They didn't need this war. And they spread their own culture, without the Macedonians. They formed their own trading colonies. They influenced many countries and peoples. And they did it without the Macedonians.
Hades, Percy Jackson, and Assassin's Creed Odyssey are my GOATS. I love Ancient Greece!
4:32 the way he says it kills me 😭
Diogenes is definitely the most goated Greek philosopher
Highly debatable. His ideas and moral standards might fit more neatly into the modern West, but that by no means he was the best, and virtually no philosophers consider him as such. Aristotle is considered by most to be a much more substantial thinker.
Yeah but where is Aristotle’s meme potential huh
Him believing the highest form of human is a hairless chicken is funny ngl
@@clowyhills1870I dont believe thats what he said. It was brought up that humans were featherless, furless bipeds so he brought in a plucked chicken and presented as a human under that defintion as a joke. To the best of my understanding.
@@DecentSilver calm down it is indeed a joke
BIG FAN of these videos!! Professor Christesen makes it very interesting. 🙂
just arrived in Greece and this popped up! THANK YOU
we need more videos on ancient western civilizations!!!
You all are spreading so much love. It’s truly heartwarming. Thank you!
Fun fact: Athena Promachos had a different stance than the one shown in AC... In actuality, she was holding the spear over her head, ready to throw it at the enemies of Athens. You can actually see in Wikipedia how the statue probably looked like.
I WANT MORE!!!!
WIRED PLEASE BRING HIM BACK FOR PART 2!!!!!
About Greek columns. At the art history class we were told that at first people used wood columns (trees) to support the house, somewhere with more wood available. And when they moved to Greece and started to build with stone, they just kept the tradition of using columns. Or something like that.
Thank you! Very informative.
I need a Wired interview with the genius who finds the charismatic experts for these videos. They deserve their flowers.
Best philosopher of the Greek world (7:32): stoic Epictetus, though technically his time as slave and free person was when Rome was dominant.
he is not greek
@@supermavro6072 Well, he was born in what is modern day Western Turkey, which was then part of the Greek world at the time. You could argue that he was "Roman", but to say that all the subjects of the Roman empire were true Romans is a pretty weak argument. Back then there weren't nation states like today. If you were born and raised in a Greek city (like he was), you were Greek.
Agreed!
@@supermavro6072Do you know the meaning of his Greek name
Iliad and odyssey are great documents to see a glimpse of the past and day to day life, tradition, etc
Also exquisite pieces of art.
They were the go to school material for centuries
"The Greeks didn't have an empire"
Alexander: "..."
He was Macedonian, not Greek. Macedonians were never Greeks. And Greeks did not want to have an empire, they had a polis system which they recreated everywhere. They didn't want to change it to something else because most of their achievements were possible due to the polis system.
He literally explained why that doesn’t count as a unified Greek empire in the video
@@Вика-з4ь5дMacedonians were Greeks and Greeks were imperialists except they were so busy killing each other to spread their own influence that they never managed to unite under one force before Alexander to have any luck building an empire. Even Alexander enforced it rather than earned it.
@@RevoltOfAges He didn''t though. He said that there were greeks communities outside of Alexander's empire, but that doesn't nullify the fact that the Macedonian empire was an empire, and that it was greek.
To sum up simply, the question was about whether the Greeks had an empire, and the answer he provides is that the all the greeks communities were never unified under a single state, which is irrelevant
@@Вика-з4ь5дSkopjanovski Slavski Alert! 🇲🇰🎪🇲🇰
Thank you! You are good at this!--good sense of humor and clear delivery! I learned three things I wasn't clear about: Greece's not having an empire, how ostracism worked, and about the statue in Assassins Creed. The timeline was also helpful. Trying to get the ancient civilizations into a timeframe has always been hard for me. That was a great map too--helped me see where the Greek influence was strong!
Why haven't they cashed in on a period piece about the Olympics? Sounds like the whole thing would be fun to watch
I've seen perhaps 5 historians talk about ancient civilisations like Rome, Egypt, Alexander the Great, etc, etc and this guy is by far the most knowledgable and best explainer of concepts. He seems to genuinely like the culture. I've felt that many of the other historians barely like the people they are talking about and are kind of just regurgitating facts, this guy is awesome.
The constant camera zoom in / pull out is distracting.
The content was, as usual for 'Tech Support', excellent.
I didn’t know the origins of the word gymnasium. I think is funny because in Denmark and Norway they call high school exactly that; gymnasium (or more commonly gymnas)
Gymnos = naket in Greek , litle viking ha ha . It is simple brother , vikings speak some Greek like all , not bad
In Greece what's called gymnasium is middle-school and we call the gym gymnasterium, kinda similar.
Who knew Will Forte was so knowledgeable about ancient Greece.
"Great video on the Ancient Greece Questions I learned so much. Thanks for the detailed content.
Am i the only one that is seeing a bit of Will Forte? Love it!
i could genuinely sit through hours of classes with this guy and not get bored.
14:50 The Minoans were Greeks and spoke Greek. It has been proven by the clay tablets with writing A and B. The Greeks are the native Mediterranean type of man for thousands of years in the same place.
I feel like this guy has dreamed of this moment his entire life. Dude lives to just teach everything he knows about his favorite subject. Got to respect him.
Now that you've talked about Greeks, Please do a video about Persians. It would be a great balance.
As a Greek i support you! ❤
Persia my old friend 😊😊
As a history major we need more of this please 😭😭😭
One for Ancient Persia please
This guy is such a university professor, I died when he pulled out his visual aids haha. Really interesting answers and you can tell he loves his subject. 15/10
This guys is honestly so cool 😂😂 the way he's got a great fit AND NOT EVEN BALDING 😂😂 and he's an ancient greek nerd! He's living my dream life!
I'd bring back that classical building craze honestly. Pretty rad.
Didn't Eratosthenes actually "luck out" with his near spot-on estimate of Earth's circumference??
IIRC, all his math was solid except for ONE assumption that he couldn't prove:
That Venus was a similar size to Earth.
And it turns out it IS! At least close enough that Eratosthenes got a pretty darn accurate estimate
What did Venus have to do with Eratosthenes' calculation of Earth's circumference?
@@gekylafas IIRC, he used the distances between Earth and the Sun and then Venus and the Sun when our three bodies created a 90⁰ angle in space. But the way those calculations worked, he would only get an answer as accurate as the difference in circumferences between Earth and Venus
@@TheDylls That must have been another calculation. For the circumference of the Earth he just used the angle of two shadows on Earth at the same time and the distance between them.
@@gekylafas Gotcha! And, just out of curiosity, one of those shadows WASN'T Venus?
@@TheDylls No. One shadow was actually the absence of a shadow (Sun 's light hitting the bottom of a well) and the other one was the shadow of a rod.
Love the science topics. I know y’all have to interview celebs and politicians, but big fan of the experts y’all have on
Age of Empires the video game was my first exposure to Ancient Greece. It led me to take Greek literature in college.
Part of what made Alexander so great is that he did all of that as a young man. If he had lived longer who knows what he could have accomplished!
Its facinating that even in southern Indian culture a coin is kept on a dead person's forehead in their funeral
The loss of the library at Alexandria still makes my scholar’s heart ache. My specialization is the human drive to oppress, but as a kid and adolescent I was addicted to the Greeks and Romans (not quite as much). I even took 5 years of Latin…Greek wasn’t offered in my then excellent public high school…in part because I wanted to become a physician. i even won a national competition in Greek and Roman mythology…that was many decades ago and adults involved expressed amazement that a “girl” won. I was not amused but also very pleased to upend their biases. I really enjoy these episodes…I learn something every time and it brings back happy memories. BTW Minoan art is wonderful if you haven’t seen it.
I think the best period to live in Greece was the Hellenistic period of great diadochi empires. All the know world was united under the control of greeks, philosophers, scientists and artists had the chance to have contact with eastern civilizations and have access to their documents, and the riches was at a point that greek world became more and more soft because of peaceful periods that romans defeat them without much effort.
Macedonians were never greeks. They were heted and despised.
please keep making these they’re great
Please do pirates!!!
Regarding gymnasiums: also, if your only option other than exercising in the buff is to get your workout sweat soaked into natural fiber clothing when you don't have a washing machine or modern detergent, nude is a much less stinky option. Way easier to clean sweat off of a person than out of a khitōn.
zoom in, zoom out. zoom in, zoom out. i appreciate the effort of the edit, but doing these quick zooms so often doesn’t make this more interesting when it happens so often to me. just gets kind of annoying.
anyways it’s always cool to hear an expert speak on subjects. thank you
It warms my heart so much that they called it Twitter and not X.
I know what I'm doing next time I go to the gymnasion 😆
You should go to the library first and learn how to spell
@@LanceBeckman
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The Greek word for gymnasium is gymnásion. Ya 🤡
@@LanceBeckmanif you had listened to what he said, you wouldn't have made yourself look like a 🤡😆
@u4ia_fubar_75 get a job
Getting ostracized? lol
i grew up in greece i like that our school thought us all this an expert proffesor knows !!! i knew 90 % of the things
2:10 thumbmail question
Ask a Dentist next! I’m loving the field already but I’d love to hear someone passionate about it answer questions.
Let's get back to, as a society, where the answer to the first question is how we see it again.
Professor you are very addictive, even though I'm a history geek myself and knew most of the subjects, I was still very captivated.
I’m always entertained by the sheer amount of TH-cam commenters that are apparently also professors of history. Not that every professor is right, but throw up a source if you’re going to vehemently disagree.
3:58 "Ok, well, yeah, maybe"
All I needed to hear