Fun fact: I signed up for the world of dinosaurs class at the University of Utah many years ago because this guy was teaching and he had a great reputation. Sadly, some other guy ended up teaching it at the last minute and it was terrible. This guy came as a guest speaker one day and it was incredible. So sad I didn’t get him for the whole semester!
Aww that sucks. This guy does have a naturally good cadence of speaking and presents information thoughtfully. He's probably a great lecture professor!
@@Alex-ff1mk Some cultures are different. As a child who doesn't know better, you are shamed into making choices your family wants. And if you move countries like I did, the language barrier and lack of money will dictate what studies you have access to.
@@herodontus listen. it's like that where I live too. But I failed so many times at becoming what they wanted me to become (getting into uni for STEM) that they just told me to get into any course at uni, whatever the cost. So I got into what I wanted in the end lol
I like how he doesn’t look too deep or get offended by the depictions in the movies. He critiques and says “well it’s a movie and this is where paleontology was at at this time”
Unlike another guy I watched who critiqued everything without giving context but yet still gave each clip he watched like 7/10s or 5/10s even though he hated how the dino's were depicted
true!! many don't consider how facts known now weren't common knowledge back then and how frequently subjects like paleontology and other scientific fields change!
Tbf, it helps that there's dialogue in the Jurassic Park franchise (both the books and the movies) that explain the dinosaurs were never going to be completely accurate dinosaurs, because of their frog DNA. The dinosaurs being mish-mashed clones of dinosaurs instead of real dinosaurs helps people in the franchise be creative with their dinos! ^^
This dude taught a class called science in cinema at the university of Utah that I took. My god was it one of my favorites. He let us watch the shittiest tornado/volcano movies and made the whole thing educational. Brilliant man.
“Probably the best thing to do is to stay ahead of the rest of the people in your group” lmfaoo he literally said “you don’t need to outrun the dinosaur just your friends”. I love him.
Mark was my professor a couple semesters ago and he made the class so much fun! We learned about geology and whatnot through movies - probably one of the funnest classes I've had. Such a cool dude and I'm so glad he made it on Vanity Fair!!! Woo!
@@denistaray368 You are everything wrong in the world and I genuinely believe that civilization will implode because of people who act like you on the internet
I wanna go to Utah just to meet this man, even tho I don't even care about dinosaurs or cinema! He seems to be so chill, so down to earth, knowing a lot of things but not being cocky about it. I want to see more of him! Give this man a TH-cam Channel!
This guy was actually one of my college professors! He named Nasutoceratops that shows up in the new Jurassic World movie, and that you can see the skull of in the background
He should be the next protagonist in the Jurassic franchise. I'd love if he while being chased just started to point out every inaccuracy of the dinos.
@@Bad_Hombre_ADK I heard the same-ish thing exists among surfers. "Always swim with a buddy, never alone. And make sure your buddy is a slower swimmer than you"
@@Rico_71 I mean, for surfers, being a slow swimmer isn't going to make much of a difference. If a shark wants you dead, you're not going to see it coming in the first place. You just have to make sure your friend is easier to mistake for a seal.
@@OperatorError0919 You might be talking about great white sharks, who are mostly stealth hunters, other sharks not so much Normally the shark is curious at first, it starts making passes to analyze you, getting closer each time, until it decides to taste test you once it feels confident that you won't react aggressively, and you won't be able to notice that change in behavior until it's too late In this surfer scenario the most important thing is to stay calm and not make splashes, sharks don't attack everything if they don't recognize it, but panic is something they recognize very well, and knowing how to control your fear will make you less likely to be targeted than the other potentially panicking surfers around you
JP3 original plot for T vz S: "it's gonna be a long fight" *Spino animatronic breaks T-Rex animatronic during the first bite* 😵💫 Movie Director: "guess we have to make this scene shorter" 😅
My pet peeve about dinosaurs in movies ('monsters' in general to be fair), is that they roar before attacking. Most predators are either trying to be really sneaky or try to rush at their prey. It's counterproductive to give their prey a massive warning. If you ever see a great big thing making a huge noise, it's usually because something bigger than them is threatening it.
Exactly. Plus, the fact that it roared at all, really. No reptile or avian alive today roars. They chirp. They hiss. They squark. Sure, T-Rex would have had massive lungs. But, to roar is super far-fetched. I like the reconstruction of what a T-Rex may have sounded like. A deep, rolling grumble. Something you could feel as much as hear. A sound that rumbled your bones as it traveled kilometers towards you. Couple that with a hiss and you have one scarier and more accurate Rex. :)
@@spankyjeffro5320 Just a correction Some avians can in fact roar, such as the ostrich and other large flightless birds, a lot of them also are able to produce growling hisses, and avians in particular are known to be able to produce more vocal variations than any other animal alive. So considering the shape of nasal cavities and resonance chambers, we do have somewhat of an indication of the depth of their vocal ranges, and various threatening noises would most likely be more common with dinosaurs than modern day birds, considering how they were more often than not competing amongst each other and fighting, which is far less common with modern birds. The one thing I do wish wasn't the case, is the overreliance on roars. The only dinosaurs served any sense of justice are the various raptors - which are depicted as capable of many different types of sounds and expressions, allowing for more complex communication and vocal expression. I don't know why this is kept exclusive to them, probably to just give them a more special treatment and uniqueness I guess.. But no, a roaring dinosaur is not super far fetched. Suggesting exclusively the opposite actually is. Overall I do agree on the point that a multitude of vocals/sounds were likely mixed and used in different situations. Roar, hiss, growl, deep rolling grumble, higher pitched chirps, etc. No reason to believe dinosaurs of most species wouldn't have decently wide vocal capability.
Maybe sometimes but not always. For example the Gallimimus scene in Jurassic Park. The T-rex hunted them down without a single sound. Also the first raptor attack in The Lost World. The camera view above showing the raptors silently closing in on the humans and taking them down one by one.
@@nenmaster5218 ---I was going by first impressions. I see the Hagrid appearance, but I was a fan of Dom Deluise for years. I'm, sadly enough, an old guy----😢
That's because most of it was robotics and people in suits. The t Rex was actually a large robot (that often malfunctioned during the filming especially during the rain scenes - many people on set said it would "come to life" in between filming) and the raptors were dudes in suits lol look up some of the stories, it's pretty fascinating
@@paigesdontflyand also, less realistic CGI are used for distance and quick scenes. They are blurry and out of focus. We don't have closed-up of them to see how they really look. Like the running scene with Grant and the two kids, on broad daylights in the herd. All the dinosaur except the Trex are so quick and blurry, unless people paused, they would not noticed how rudimentary the CGI are.
They largely didn’t use CGI, they used animatronics. Approximately four of the total 12-15 minutes of on screen dinosaurs were done in CGI, the rest was simply puppets. This is why the movie has so much rewatch value, and why it did so well.
@@darthkittenn there is also slight enhancements in the robotics scenes. Like the eyes of the Trex, some textures, and if I'm not mistaken, slight velociraptor movements. CGI then was new, Spielberg was very skeptical, and ILM was only started incorporating them a few years prior. Unlike today where executives demand CGI for everything including random backgrounds and cars in city.
@@mr.rufasi2729 I don't know if it would be true or not ...but I think it's less useful to imagine: "Thing the size of a dog" ...and more useful to imagine: "Predatory bird the size of a dog that doesn't need flight adaptations" ...and now I want something better than a stick =P
so u want a unless job that dont do nothing for anyone or anything at all...them pretend we know what they looked and sounded like sorry u can only get best on what out computers come up with but dont mean its even close to what they did
@@corruptsolja i guarantee you’re dumber than you sound. They said they *WANTED* to be a paleontologist after the movie in 1993. Just as I did in 1998 while in first grade. Paleontologist do nothing to help? Something tells me you don’t have a job.
@@CoinsAndCapsaicin I guess its just a pet peeve of mine when people default to Netflix with stuff like this as if they dont already have a massive monopoly on this stuff
I watched just for fun and it was, but what I didn't expect was how much I would learn and how interesting it was. Mr. Loewen is an excellen narrator and teacher. I wish other youtubers would emulate his style of elocution.
I had this guy in college for a fun class on Dinosaurs, he took us on a trip down to Price Utah to the dinosaur quarry down there, on the way down because it's a 3 hour drive. We watched Jurassic Park on a bus and the assignment was write down 20 things wrong with Jurassic Park.
Dr. Loewen is one of the most impressive scientific communicators I have ever seen. I really admire the way he can point out inaccuracies in the movies without in any way demeaning the movies themselves. This guy needs to be *the* public face of dinosaur paleontology today.
@@ZalMoxis Okay, I've found the channel, but there are obviously many videos. I'm not going to invest a lot of time there unless I know it's good. So recommend one to me that will show me why this Loewen guy is not the real deal.
just wanted to add if he seen the movie like he says all the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are genetically modified with other animals so in turn some of the traits would have changed them so it explains why they are slightly different so watch the movie and listen like people dont I know he's trying to compare them with real dinosaurs but dont hate a movie that explains the reason just listen
How does that relate to a job though? Movies aren't made for scientific accuracy and these days the audience knows that. Paying for a course on that sounds like a waste of money no offense.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan right but thats why they are compared, to see whats accurate and whats not, also to see how it would happen in a real life situation.
You don't need to be faster than the T-Rex, you just need to be faster than the slowest person in your group. Honestly, watching some of these videos makes me want to go back to school and take some courses on mythology and paleontology and history.
I had Mark Loewen as a professor teaching a "World of Dinosaurs" class at the University of Utah. It was easily one of my favorite and most fun classes that I've taken. If anyone reading this is at the U (or is planning to be) I can't recommend that class enough.
"The bite of T-Rex would crush Spinosaurus' skull in a single bite. This would not be a good match for the T-Rex" Finally, I can rest peacefully. Thank you.
@gmu_alum08 jack horner... that name is the only reason for the infamous scene in jp3. Director Joe Johnston deserves some blame too but jack horner hates trexes and believes it was nothing more than a pathetic scavenger and without Spielberg and a proper script (the film actually started shooting before it was finished) he had a bit more say than in previous installments
@gmu_alum08 To be fair, that's not a normal Spinosaurus. Apparently, it was a subject to experiments that's basically torture and became a proto-Indominus Rex in terms of roles.
When I was a kid I wanted to be a paleontologist. Even though I kinda grew out of that idea, I never lost my love and fascination for dinosaurs and other ancient animals.
@@Gravitino900 the average salary of a paleontologist is about 230,000$ a year. That is very good. It's also a lot of schooling needed. The top paleontologists make over 550k.
@@ThePhilosophicalOne you want guests to be able to touch the millions year old fossils in the actual collection? Yeah, no. They have the fossils, just outside of guest viewing so actual scientists can study them.
I adore the fact that for King Kong he immediately points out that the movie covers for inaccuracies to a degree because these dinosaurs have had since the extinction event to evolve.
He knows more about Dinosaurs than cinema give credit that much night at museum he couldn’t put magic stone together that trex bone wouldn’t break bones hit wall he didn’t mention it of course wouldn’t break stone tablet makes everything come to life even bones of course bones wouldn’t hitting hard surface
Also he differentiates between movies that got it wrong because of what the knowledge was at the time, and movies that got it wrong because of artistic decisions/ignorance/lazyness.
but he does make one mistake again and that is comparing the velociraptors to velociraptors, technically the velociraptors are Velociraptor antirrhopus, also known as deinonychus, the little skull he showed was a Velociraptor mongoliensis, but at the time of writing some thought that deinonychus was part of the velociraptors. halfway writing that got known to be wrong, but the name was kept as it sounded scarier.
Obviously no dinosaur would have won 100% of its battles, but the most OP terrestrial predator that nature ever created probably would have had a higher win rate than almost every other dinosaur.
I love that Dr. Loewen understands that most changes were for dramatic reasons, scientific discoveries that were now known at the time, or the Rule of Cool. Then he essentially refuses to critique Fantasia. Respect.
Predators won't do two things: - They won't make lot of noise before attacking because you want to catch prey, not warn it or scare it off - They almost never attack each other. Predators have to avoid being injured. An injury to an herbivore might not be fatal since plants don't move. For a carnivore they have to hunt and kill prey and an injury that interferes with this could result in starvation.
Definitely. Even a sprained tendon can be a death sentence to a predator. I can’t imagine any big carnivorous dinosaurs having full blown fights to the death every time they meet.
i mean yeah. Predators that have never met wouldnt. But lions kill hyenas on sight. So thats just not true. They give up quickly for the reason u said. But animals fight when they perceive a threat. Same with dolphins and sharks. Crows and owls etc. But true, carnivores give up fights a lot quicker than herbivores
Since the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park movies are designed and their DNA is altered, theoretically they could've made spinosaurus as big as bad as they wanted. I think this movie was also made during a time when they only had one discovered spinosaurus skeleton (I think there are literally only 7 partial skeletons, and no full ones even today) so the spinosaurus in the movie was an accurate representation of what they believed at the time it actually looked like. Since then they've discovered more and Spinosaurus has created a lot of controversy in the Paleo community lol
To be fair, the eyesight thing was portrayed differently in the JP novel. In the novel, the animals were given amphibian motion based vision as a way to make them less dangerous on purpose. Grant knew this because one of the scientists told him about it. In the movie it's just treated as part of his expertise. I dont know if any expert worth a darn thought T rex had bad vision in the early 90's. As a dinosaur nerd kid, I had read that their vision likely exceeded that of modern day birds of prey. When I saw the movie and hes like "their vision is based on movement" and I'm whispering 'no its not!'
gosh i love the book. i have the audio book on my phone i used to listen to it when i went on long walks. i need to do that again. both the long walks and give that book another go.
Evolution cannot account for a land animal having the eyesight of an airborne raptor There would be no need of it Of course evolution cannot answer how a giraffe 🦒 doesn't have a a cerebral aneurysm everytime it takes a drink. And don't get me started on how the bombadier beetle befuddles darwinism. God is real Jesus Christ is His only begotten son. Jesus is the way the truth and the light and if you're not His you're going to a very real place of eternal damnation. As for dinosaur, they're part of creation, a young creation. Despite commonly accepted lies.
Mark was my professor in a class called "World of Dinosaurs" over at the U of U! I always described him as Hagrid in a hawaiian shirt. One of my favorite professors, congrats on VF, Prof. Loewen! 🦖🦕
@@quirkyfilms8921 that's exactly what it was for, I took the same class with the same guy last year. This guy is one of my favorite teachers I've ever had.
I simply love how he has every sort of thing to visually examplificate what he's talking about, literally "well this dinosaur looked quite like this" *takes miniature dinosaur out of somewhere*
I will never forget the T-Rex scene in Jurassic Park, classic I remember how scary and effective it was with no music just the sounds of the rain, it was so loud in the theater (I'm that old but I was really young lol) and also the Raptors in the Kitchen I remember their call being soooo loud too.
i remember the first time my family got the movie on a CD, it had kinds of bugs in that made the sound pop out really loud and i guess that just made the experience much scarier.. since today i am still terrified of this movies and cannot watch any of them without feeling anxious or in panic, i think this could be because of the CD bugs or even because i was really young but after all it just caused me a little trauma ✋😭
Yep, Jurassic Park (and the writers) knew the dinos they described would not be accurate forever and made sure that when the time came they had an explanation.
Yeah, I get why paleontologists feel the need to point out inaccuracies with those movies and/or books. But I respectfully tend to feel the need to scream at them that they're genetically altered. They're *not* supposed to be pure dinosaurs. So the complaint that they aren't like what the common theory of what the dinosaurs were like at the time they were released is actually kind of pointless.
I was SO AFRAID you were gonna judge Fantasia through a modern lense. It was this segment that kick started my love of dinosaurs as a child and it still has a special place in my heart
This bloke was absolutely fantastic. Sometimes in this series they're far too basic in the explanations but he respected the audience enough to just give a concise explanation to each example whilst accepting that these are not meant to be fully accurate representations.
I’d have to disagree, I’m not sure where they found this guy he seems to be not very well informed, I’m pretty sure it was discovered that triceratops and brontosaurus never existed, And where bones of other dinosaurs. And he refers to them multiple times.
@@tomura7739 I am not sure what you mean by brontosaurus and triceratops never existed. Triceratops existed. The debate was where it belonged in the main groups of other similar dinosaurs. Yes, Brontosaurs was rejected for a long time as just another Apatosaurus, but in 2015 it was proposed that Brontosaurus had distinct features not found Apatosaurus and was its own genus with 3 species. So saying that he is wrong is not taking all the information into account. He could be among those that support Brontosaurus as a genus. Also for whatever reason Brontosaurus has pop culture recognition. More lay people will know what you're talking about by saying Brontosaurus than Apatosaurus. Even if they are wrong in identifying them.
Raptors in Jurassic Park: Dangerous hunters without any remorse killing almost everything in a blink of an eye Raptors in Jurassic World: Manipulative pets
4:01 Little bit of trivia. The book(s) which the movies are partial adaptations of actually use Deinonychus instead of Velociraptor. This was changed because it aounded cooler and now we live in the timeline where people think Velociraptor looked that big.
Crichton referred to Deinonychus as Velociraptor antirrhopus in the first novel, but at least one of the raptors (the cloned baby that the characters are shown in the lab during the tour) is stated to be a Velociraptor mongoliensis, which is the species that the raptor skull shown here belongs to.
I really appreciate this paleontologist's attitude towards these depictions of dinosaurs. Yes, a lot of them are terribly inaccurate, but most people who study paleontology and/or geology fell in love with the subject because of one or more of the movies shown here.
Must've been a shocker to see your former professor in a Vanity Fair video, eh? Lol. You sure must've had a great experience with this man as a professor. He's definitely both smart and funny.
The dinosaur trope that always gets me, and it's used more in documentaries than in movies, is the one where the paleontologist pulls out a 1.5" paintbrush and starts whisking sand off of an obviously shaped, solid dinosaur bone loosely buried in pea-gravel.
I tend to think the "they aren't actually dinosaurs" covers a lot of the bs in the Jurassic series. They are a businessman playing Frankenstein with genetics to sell theme park tickets he's goin gto make them cool and terrifying not realistic.
Yea in Jurassic World Wu did say, "You didn't ask for realistic you asked for more teeth." Even in the 1st Jurassic Park they knew the looks would be off.
I had this guy as a professor back in college during the pandemic, and everyday we'd spend the first 30-45 minutes just watching through all the Jurassic Park films and he'd talk about stuff in them and it was so much fun. He was easily one of the best professors I ever had.
A concept that was briefly suggested in the in the Jurassic Park films and all out confirmed in the Jurassic World movies is that InGen wasn't setting out to create scientifically accurate Dinosaurs, the were looking to create theme park monsters.
While this is true in concept and thus execution, remember, most of us watched these films as kids and, to us, this is how they were in real life in their own time. We didn't know better. We do now, but many of us didn't back then. (Heck, some paleontologists were still uncertain about some of these facts back then) That being said, while the Velociraptors in the park were genetically engineered, what about the fossil that Dr. Alan Grant found in the desert and described. He described a Velociraptor while holding a claw the size of a Utahraptor's. *shrug*
@@TheMarukeru The Velociraptors in JP are supposed to be Deinonychus, Creighton just liked the name "Velociraptor" more. The movie still made them a bit bigger but the difference isn't as noticeable when you consider that. The fossil in the desert at the beginning of the movie is in Montana, around where you'd find Deinonychus.
@@priscyllathewitch298 Deinonychus was classified as velociraptor in some source material both Crichton and Spielberg used to make their JP works. Greg Paul even made artwork specifically for the production of spielbei movie that was used in said movie.
It is just a retcon. Jurassic Park and The Lost films very much articulated that ingen intended to create the real thing, it was only starting in JP/// that they threw out the lazy line by grant so that they could explain away a lack of feather cover for the raptors and introduce the quilled ones. Jurassic world doubled down on that with more lazy dialogue with Wu.
@@scottb3034 That's also true. The naming of Deinonychus as V. antirrhopus was always controversial but I do recall seeing that Velociraptor was still preferred for the book and movie since it sounded "more dramatic" than Deinonychus.
Around where I live, there's a guy that goes by Paleo Joe and he does group talks about paleontology. In the 3rd grade, our class went to see him and he was so impressed with how much I knew and was engaging with him he gave me a chocolate trilobite. I was stoked. I asked my teacher on the bus ride back to school if I could eat it and she said no. It melted and I still remember my disappointment 22 years later. I should have just eaten it.
I always thought the innacuracys in Jurassic Park was due to the DNA being mixed. In the first movie and book its said that they filled any leftover DNA gaps with tree frog DNA and probably others to give them the correct appearance. Alan also acknowledged the fact that dinosaurs are the ancestors to modern day birds in the opening scene where he talks about the Velociraptor being more like a bird than a reptile
I've wanted to be a paleontologist since I was 3. I will be 50 in 2 weeks. If I win the lottery, I am quitting my very good job as a nurse and enrolling in college, that's how much dinosaurs mean to me. Thank you for this video, and thank you for not being derogatory in your observations!
I wanted to he an Astrophysicist but I don't mix well with maths. I went to Sound Engineering school instead. If I win the lottery I'm gonna buy the 8th floor apartment in the last building on Beach Ave. in Vancouver and smoke weed all day. I already smoke weed all day but I'd have a much nicer view of English Bay.
I want him to describe Jurassic World’s hybrids and break them down and tell us what they’d look like and how they’d behave according to the dinos and creatures in their genomes.
@@TEAMHUMAN1 They ain’t trash. Despite the inaccuracies, they’ve been portrayed in a very entertaining way and so many people love them. Dinosaurs are dinosaurs, however you want to portray/perceive them.
@@Waaris_771 Thing is, the hybrids portrayed cannot be guessed like that as they already have set behaviours, the indominus rex didn't even know what it was and was seeing where it fit on the food chain, it was highly intelligent and killed for sport. The Indoraptor however is different, it is psychotic and a murder machine, its entire purpose was to be made for war, even if this animal was a prototype it showed extreme malice
How and Why does everybody forget the 2000 movie Dinausor?! Amazing visuals for its time! I'd love to hear Mark Loewen or any paleontologist talk about that movie!
This guy is awesome, but I think it’s important to point out that the whole premise of Jurassic Park/World is irresponsibly bringing dinosaurs back to life with a mix of other DNA to fill in gaps, so some of these inaccuracies could possibly be explained by that. Just a kind of nitpick but this is still great
Actually in the book they go more in depth into the science of how they made the dinosaurs. The reason there's the whole idea that the t-rex cant see movement is in the book when the t-rex attacks Dr Grant and the others, they were standing still and didnt get attacked. They were confused about it but then Grant remembered that the scientists mentioned they used amphibian dna for some of the dinos. Grant mentions that some species of tropical frog struggle to see no moving targets which is when he draws to the conclusion that the t rex cant see non moving targets.
fun fact! there was never an official name for the spiked tail of a stegosaurus, until Gary Larson made a comic about it sometime in the 90s. He called it the Thagomizer (“for the late Thag Simmons”) and because the paleontological community had no actual name for it, it ended up getting officially adopted.
I always hated the "Can't see us if we don't move" scene. Because, even if some how that stupdi idea was right, that it could only see moving things. It could and would still smell them. It wouldn't help one bit at all.
In the lost world novel there’s a scene where the bad guys try this, turns out that doesn’t apply to the T rexes on sorna as then the make t rex eats one of the bad guys and chases the other two.
I love that when you get far enough in your particular field of science you’re just allowed to look like a wizard and everyone is yeah “well yeah he’s a scientist”
In the original Jurassic Park novel, the reason the T-rex could only see movement and the dilophosaurus spat venom were side effects of how the DNA was spliced together with modern species. Also the reason why some of the dinosaurs could breed. I highly recommend the novel, it's goes a lot more into the science behind the dinosaurs as well as Chaos Theory.
It’s so mind numbing when time gets put into perspective like how he mentioned that there’s more time between allosaurus and the t-rex than there is between the t-rex and us 😱
Yet plenty of loonies believe we've only been around like 6,000-10,000 years, and we - the planet, all life, everything - magically spawned into existence all at once after some cosmic deity snapped its fingers.
Yeah it's kinda nuts that in the grand scheme of things, we as humans only live for a blink of the eye. Compared to the universe as a whole and it's such a long time via our perspective
Yep, the Allosaurus is late Jurassic (155-145 mya), and T. rex came about towards the end of the Cretaceous period (68-66 mya). That's almost 100 million years' difference.
I've always been really impressed by the Fantasia Rite of Spring sequence. Given the time when it was made, it's actually pretty forward-thinking and more accurate than a lot of modern films.
The one I found kind of interesting was his comment about One Million Years BC where he explained how large theropods like the T-Rex were thought to rest on their tails, using it as a third leg, back in the time when the movie had been made. I never really noticed that before, but yeah - older movies really do show them that way. Godzilla - at least, the old-school version of Godzilla - was certainly depicted that way to the point where it just looked really awkward.
I heard somewhere that the dinosaurs they called Velociraptors were actually based on Deinonychus, they just changed the name because they thought it sounded better. I personally think 'terrible claw' sounds more intimidating than 'swift robber', but I guess that's just me.
That's correct, they based them on Deinonychus, but it wasn't actually big enough either for what they wanted, and they wanted to make them even bigger. But luckily Utahraptor was discovered around the same time and that justified their decision on making the raptors Utahraptor sized. And you're very right they kept the name incorrectly as Velociraptor simply because they thought it sounded cooler.
It was more because at the time the book was being written, Deinonychus was thought to be a species of Velociraptor. This idea fell out of favor but Crichton still called them Velociraptor.
I always imagine big theropods also make growl and hiss like gators, or rumble like elephants. I don't know about long roar like the one depicted in JP, but perhaps some of them can make short and loud sound for intimidation.
Watch Prehistoric Planet for a scientifically accurate depiction of T. Rex and other dinosaurs and prehistoric animals, including the sounds they made.
One thing to remember when granting "artistic interpretation" to the JP and JW dinos, these dinos had their genes spliced with various other lizards and amphibians to make complete genome sequence. Further, Ingen is also known within that franchise to be involved in other genetic manipulation as well. So it stands to "movie reason" that something like a frilled dilophosaurus could exist in that world.
We likely haven't even discovered a percentile of the creatures that existed in the Mesozoic age. It is entirely possible dinosaurs with frills existed, we simply don't know and a lot of speculation in media has to be artistic interpretations.
I wish he’d reviewed “Dinosaur”. I loved that movie when it came out cause the animation was so different than anything I’d seen at the time. Still one of my favorites as an adult and of course “We’re Back” was and still is another favorite of mine but I understand why that one definitely wasn’t reviewed.
You know we're back was a Spielberg one with so many JP Easter eggs in it? The colouring of Rex, JP is showing at the cinema when the stampede happens and if you're quick, mr Spielberg himself is in the crowd!
@@user-ho7mg9ol7w I haven’t seen it in so long, I’ll have to rewatch it one of these nights and pay attention to the JP references. I’m surprised nobody really talks about that movie anymore cause it was a huge favorite of mine as a kid. I went through a severe dinosaur phase as a kid 🤣
I like this guy; he explains the inaccuracies without coming across as a condescending prick. Just a chill dude with impeccable fashion sense. 10/10
Yes this, thank you lol
He doesn’t know the T.Rex is called the T.Rex’s monster it’s a common misconception because the film is more popular than the boom
@@magicman3163 I am puzzled
@@theant2266 Its a joke referencing Frankenstein.
Frankstein was the scientist. The monster was called Frankenstein's monster
I neeeeed his shirt.
Fun fact: I signed up for the world of dinosaurs class at the University of Utah many years ago because this guy was teaching and he had a great reputation. Sadly, some other guy ended up teaching it at the last minute and it was terrible. This guy came as a guest speaker one day and it was incredible. So sad I didn’t get him for the whole semester!
Fun fact. You sound like Sheldon. Good for you!
Funny Fact
Sounds like bait and switch. You should have withdrawn.
Aww that sucks. This guy does have a naturally good cadence of speaking and presents information thoughtfully. He's probably a great lecture professor!
Can confirm is a very entertaining lecturer.
I'm still pissed off that my parents didn't let me become this guy. Look at how cool he is. This is what peak paleontologist performance looks like.
Didnt let you? Tf its up to you what u go study
@@Alex-ff1mk Some cultures are different. As a child who doesn't know better, you are shamed into making choices your family wants.
And if you move countries like I did, the language barrier and lack of money will dictate what studies you have access to.
your parents watched Friends and said....nahhh ahhhhh
@@herodontus listen. it's like that where I live too. But I failed so many times at becoming what they wanted me to become (getting into uni for STEM) that they just told me to get into any course at uni, whatever the cost. So I got into what I wanted in the end lol
@@JazzyCrumbles I should have done this 😂
I like how he doesn’t look too deep or get offended by the depictions in the movies. He critiques and says “well it’s a movie and this is where paleontology was at at this time”
Unlike another guy I watched who critiqued everything without giving context but yet still gave each clip he watched like 7/10s or 5/10s even though he hated how the dino's were depicted
true!! many don't consider how facts known now weren't common knowledge back then and how frequently subjects like paleontology and other scientific fields change!
Im offended that he didnt talk about dinosaur train
Tbf, it helps that there's dialogue in the Jurassic Park franchise (both the books and the movies) that explain the dinosaurs were never going to be completely accurate dinosaurs, because of their frog DNA. The dinosaurs being mish-mashed clones of dinosaurs instead of real dinosaurs helps people in the franchise be creative with their dinos! ^^
@@Scarshadow666This is one aspect I’m glad the World movies leaned into
This dude taught a class called science in cinema at the university of Utah that I took. My god was it one of my favorites. He let us watch the shittiest tornado/volcano movies and made the whole thing educational. Brilliant man.
Im in the same class right now, easily my favorite.
Cool, the guy who this guy talked about, Jack Horner was one of my professors in college.
I was actually just about to post that I would love to take a class or just sit and talk with this dude. Just a real genuine vibe.
I would love to take a class like that 😁
There are very few things that is better than a college professor that enjoys their job and tries to make their class enjoyable
“Probably the best thing to do is to stay ahead of the rest of the people in your group” lmfaoo he literally said “you don’t need to outrun the dinosaur just your friends”. I love him.
Literally just saw your comment as he was saying it in the video 🤣🤣
The dino can comeback for you tho..
I would be really sad if no one mentioned it.Glad you did
@@dobasapuski6365 ikr
well then he's dinner cuz hes slowest for sure
He was my professor at university of Utah - fun guy and great teacher. He went by “Hagrid” to the kids
That’s AWESOME
Sure
Absolute legend
I saw the thumbnail and went straight to the comment to see how long it would take for someone to point out that he's a real life Hagrid
....and about as believable
"No wonder you're extinct."
*The Dilophosaurus has never been this emotionally scarred.*
After that comment, Dilophosaurus be like:
“Ok, I was going to display to get you to go away, but now, I’m going to rip you to pieces.”
UP NEXT: Dilophosaurus reacts to humans*
@@TutankhamaruCapac yummy!
Speaking of scarred, look up what happens to him in the book version of the story.
The book version of nerdy sadly didn’t deserve it 😔 he was blackmailed by John Hammond
Mark was my professor a couple semesters ago and he made the class so much fun! We learned about geology and whatnot through movies - probably one of the funnest classes I've had. Such a cool dude and I'm so glad he made it on Vanity Fair!!! Woo!
No one cares
@@denistaray368 You are everything wrong in the world and I genuinely believe that civilization will implode because of people who act like you on the internet
That’s legit, I’m happy for him too!
I took that class! Wonder if we were in it together.
@@denistaray368 i do
He is the most paleontologist looking paleontologist that has ever paleontologist in the history of paleontologists.
Lmao 😂 facts!
Ditto.
No, that would be Bob Bakker.
You could say that he is a paleontologist
Palaeontologist
8:47 "T-Rex is not a fast animal but T-Rex is faster than Will Ferrell"
- Mark Loewen, 2022
Hello do you believe in Jesus
@TigerBiteCK Why?
So I just need to be faster than Will Ferrell, got it.
A paleontologist roasting a celebrity, my life get crazier every time
@@connorlancaster7541 I believe in The Dragon Prince more.
I wanna go to Utah just to meet this man, even tho I don't even care about dinosaurs or cinema! He seems to be so chill, so down to earth, knowing a lot of things but not being cocky about it. I want to see more of him! Give this man a TH-cam Channel!
This guy was actually one of my college professors! He named Nasutoceratops that shows up in the new Jurassic World movie, and that you can see the skull of in the background
Do you have to know Latin to be a paleontologist
In the event you’re asked to name a Dinosaur?
@@ksoundkaiju9256 I mean you could probably just google the translation if you wanted
That’s pretty cool!
same!
Sure he was 🤣🤣
He should be the next protagonist in the Jurassic franchise. I'd love if he while being chased just started to point out every inaccuracy of the dinos.
Yes please
"RUN RAPTORS.... WELL NOT REALLY THEY ARE A BIT TOO BIG.... MORE LIKE UTAH RAPTORS.... BUT THE HEAD SHAPE IS ALL WRONG.... JUST RUN!!!"
"Actually you cannot do that Mr dinosaur!"
Played by Jack Black
@@crixxxxxxxxxYes
love how he actually advised you not to outrun the dino
just outrun the humans
There's an old joke amongst hikers. I don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than you.
Advice that really works for anything that's trying to eat/kill you. Be faster than the slowest person.
@@Bad_Hombre_ADK I heard the same-ish thing exists among surfers. "Always swim with a buddy, never alone. And make sure your buddy is a slower swimmer than you"
@@Rico_71 I mean, for surfers, being a slow swimmer isn't going to make much of a difference. If a shark wants you dead, you're not going to see it coming in the first place. You just have to make sure your friend is easier to mistake for a seal.
@@OperatorError0919 You might be talking about great white sharks, who are mostly stealth hunters, other sharks not so much
Normally the shark is curious at first, it starts making passes to analyze you, getting closer each time, until it decides to taste test you once it feels confident that you won't react aggressively, and you won't be able to notice that change in behavior until it's too late
In this surfer scenario the most important thing is to stay calm and not make splashes, sharks don't attack everything if they don't recognize it, but panic is something they recognize very well, and knowing how to control your fear will make you less likely to be targeted than the other potentially panicking surfers around you
I remember being a kid seeing JP3 and thinking: “but wouldn’t the bite of tyrannosaurus be basically a 1 shot?” Glad my young brain was vindicated
Yep, Rex crushed bones
JP3 original plot for T vz S: "it's gonna be a long fight"
*Spino animatronic breaks T-Rex animatronic during the first bite* 😵💫
Movie Director: "guess we have to make this scene shorter" 😅
They are that glass cannon build.
My pet peeve about dinosaurs in movies ('monsters' in general to be fair), is that they roar before attacking. Most predators are either trying to be really sneaky or try to rush at their prey. It's counterproductive to give their prey a massive warning. If you ever see a great big thing making a huge noise, it's usually because something bigger than them is threatening it.
Omg that’s TRUE!!!!
Exactly. Plus, the fact that it roared at all, really.
No reptile or avian alive today roars.
They chirp. They hiss. They squark.
Sure, T-Rex would have had massive lungs.
But, to roar is super far-fetched.
I like the reconstruction of what a T-Rex may have sounded like.
A deep, rolling grumble. Something you could feel as much as hear.
A sound that rumbled your bones as it traveled kilometers towards you.
Couple that with a hiss and you have one scarier and more accurate Rex. :)
Roaring makes billion dollars movies.
@@spankyjeffro5320 Just a correction
Some avians can in fact roar, such as the ostrich and other large flightless birds, a lot of them also are able to produce growling hisses, and avians in particular are known to be able to produce more vocal variations than any other animal alive.
So considering the shape of nasal cavities and resonance chambers, we do have somewhat of an indication of the depth of their vocal ranges, and various threatening noises would most likely be more common with dinosaurs than modern day birds, considering how they were more often than not competing amongst each other and fighting, which is far less common with modern birds.
The one thing I do wish wasn't the case, is the overreliance on roars. The only dinosaurs served any sense of justice are the various raptors - which are depicted as capable of many different types of sounds and expressions, allowing for more complex communication and vocal expression. I don't know why this is kept exclusive to them, probably to just give them a more special treatment and uniqueness I guess..
But no, a roaring dinosaur is not super far fetched. Suggesting exclusively the opposite actually is.
Overall I do agree on the point that a multitude of vocals/sounds were likely mixed and used in different situations. Roar, hiss, growl, deep rolling grumble, higher pitched chirps, etc. No reason to believe dinosaurs of most species wouldn't have decently wide vocal capability.
Maybe sometimes but not always. For example the Gallimimus scene in Jurassic Park. The T-rex hunted them down without a single sound. Also the first raptor attack in The Lost World. The camera view above showing the raptors silently closing in on the humans and taking them down one by one.
Can someone let Hagrid know he’s not fooling anyone, he’a an expert on beast in the magic world, and a paleontologist in the muggle world.
Holy crap, I’m dying over here! Why do you have to say such accurate silliness while I’m drinking my coffee!
I just scared the cat. He was sleeping peacefully and I just busted out laughing. May have accidentally wet myself also 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For some reason, I thought of Dom Deluise, when I saw the professor.
@@elultimo102 If youre under this channel, i assume youre a Science-Fan?
@@nenmaster5218 ---I was going by first impressions. I see the Hagrid appearance, but I was a fan of Dom Deluise for years. I'm, sadly enough, an old guy----😢
I love how he points out certain inaccuracies without demeaning the movies, this was a joy to watch
yup, I agree 100%
The CGI in the 1993 film is STILL
leaps and bounds better than any of the other films mentioned in this. Insane.
That's because most of it was robotics and people in suits. The t Rex was actually a large robot (that often malfunctioned during the filming especially during the rain scenes - many people on set said it would "come to life" in between filming) and the raptors were dudes in suits lol look up some of the stories, it's pretty fascinating
@@paigesdontflyand also, less realistic CGI are used for distance and quick scenes. They are blurry and out of focus. We don't have closed-up of them to see how they really look. Like the running scene with Grant and the two kids, on broad daylights in the herd. All the dinosaur except the Trex are so quick and blurry, unless people paused, they would not noticed how rudimentary the CGI are.
They largely didn’t use CGI, they used animatronics. Approximately four of the total 12-15 minutes of on screen dinosaurs were done in CGI, the rest was simply puppets. This is why the movie has so much rewatch value, and why it did so well.
@@darthkittenn there is also slight enhancements in the robotics scenes. Like the eyes of the Trex, some textures, and if I'm not mistaken, slight velociraptor movements. CGI then was new, Spielberg was very skeptical, and ILM was only started incorporating them a few years prior. Unlike today where executives demand CGI for everything including random backgrounds and cars in city.
"if you had a pair of workboots and a stick, you could probably fend off this dinosaur", Is such a beautiful sentence to me
"Git on now, git"
Not true tho
@@thejack9178 considering how small velociraptors really were it’s probably true
Like fending off a Raccoon lol
@@mr.rufasi2729 I don't know if it would be true or not
...but I think it's less useful to imagine:
"Thing the size of a dog"
...and more useful to imagine:
"Predatory bird the size of a dog that doesn't need flight adaptations"
...and now I want something better than a stick =P
This man NEEDS HIS OWN SERIES! This was so wonderful to watch! I wanted to be a paleontologist so badly after seeing JP in 1993!
No he doesn’t, lol
so u want a unless job that dont do nothing for anyone or anything at all...them pretend we know what they looked and sounded like sorry u can only get best on what out computers come up with but dont mean its even close to what they did
If you want to be a paleontologist, you need take biology or geology degree
@@corruptsolja Oh shut up!!! If you want to be a paleontologist you want to be a paleontologist. I feel insulted.
@@corruptsolja i guarantee you’re dumber than you sound. They said they *WANTED* to be a paleontologist after the movie in 1993. Just as I did in 1998 while in first grade. Paleontologist do nothing to help? Something tells me you don’t have a job.
This guy...I'd love to watch like a Netflix series of him teaching about dinosaurs.
You wouldnt watch it if it wasn't Netflix?
@@archkull I'd watch it anywhere I could. Netflix was just the first streaming service I thought of.
I'm not sure that I would. His looks are all too reminiscent of the late great Bud Spencer.
Yessss that would be great!!🙏
@@CoinsAndCapsaicin I guess its just a pet peeve of mine when people default to Netflix with stuff like this as if they dont already have a massive monopoly on this stuff
I watched just for fun and it was, but what I didn't expect was how much I would learn and how interesting it was. Mr. Loewen is an excellen narrator and teacher. I wish other youtubers would emulate his style of elocution.
I had this guy in college for a fun class on Dinosaurs, he took us on a trip down to Price Utah to the dinosaur quarry down there, on the way down because it's a 3 hour drive. We watched Jurassic Park on a bus and the assignment was write down 20 things wrong with Jurassic Park.
That's cool!
I'm pretty jealous, I wanna be in it that would be amazing
mine wouldve been a short assignment. 1 word. Nothing. I'll take my 0 with pride cuz i will never bad mouth JP
That is so awesome. I want to be in this dude’s class!
@@sslocke awww because you put a fictional movie over actual facts about dinosaurs? You’re 6 years old.
Dr. Loewen is one of the most impressive scientific communicators I have ever seen. I really admire the way he can point out inaccuracies in the movies without in any way demeaning the movies themselves. This guy needs to be *the* public face of dinosaur paleontology today.
He's a gate keeper propagating a false history.... go to the Archaix channel.
@@ZalMoxis Okay, I've found the channel, but there are obviously many videos. I'm not going to invest a lot of time there unless I know it's good. So recommend one to me that will show me why this Loewen guy is not the real deal.
just wanted to add if he seen the movie like he says all the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are genetically modified with other animals so in turn some of the traits would have changed them so it explains why they are slightly different so watch the movie and listen like people dont I know he's trying to compare them with real dinosaurs but dont hate a movie that explains the reason just listen
@@ZalMoxis Care to back that up?
@@ZalMoxis oh boy a young earth creationist 🤣
This guy was my teacher for a semester for Science in Cinema. We watched movies and analyzed them for scientific accuracy
Wow, cool 👌
was he cool
Now that's a class I'd like to take.
How does that relate to a job though? Movies aren't made for scientific accuracy and these days the audience knows that. Paying for a course on that sounds like a waste of money no offense.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan right but thats why they are compared, to see whats accurate and whats not, also to see how it would happen in a real life situation.
You don't need to be faster than the T-Rex, you just need to be faster than the slowest person in your group.
Honestly, watching some of these videos makes me want to go back to school and take some courses on mythology and paleontology and history.
I had Mark Loewen as a professor teaching a "World of Dinosaurs" class at the University of Utah. It was easily one of my favorite and most fun classes that I've taken. If anyone reading this is at the U (or is planning to be) I can't recommend that class enough.
Thanks for sharing!
How much did the old guy or Vanity Faire pay you to write that comment? I would love to write nothing at all and get paid for it 👍
@@dverarde84 Did you have him too? I'm just starting his class
@@dverarde84omg so mean he’s like one of the best professors I’ve had. Very memorable
"The bite of T-Rex would crush Spinosaurus' skull in a single bite. This would not be a good match for the T-Rex"
Finally, I can rest peacefully. Thank you.
Well yeah but then we'd have no new antagonist carnivore for JP3.
brother this made me laugh thank you 😂😂
I think he meant to say Spinosaurus
@gmu_alum08 jack horner... that name is the only reason for the infamous scene in jp3. Director Joe Johnston deserves some blame too but jack horner hates trexes and believes it was nothing more than a pathetic scavenger and without Spielberg and a proper script (the film actually started shooting before it was finished) he had a bit more say than in previous installments
@gmu_alum08 To be fair, that's not a normal Spinosaurus. Apparently, it was a subject to experiments that's basically torture and became a proto-Indominus Rex in terms of roles.
When I was a kid I wanted to be a paleontologist. Even though I kinda grew out of that idea, I never lost my love and fascination for dinosaurs and other ancient animals.
I grew out of it when I realized the pay wasn't that good.
I grew out of it when I realized not a single museum in the world showcases a real dinosaur skeleton... They are all replicas.
I still feel like digging
@@Gravitino900 the average salary of a paleontologist is about 230,000$ a year. That is very good. It's also a lot of schooling needed. The top paleontologists make over 550k.
@@ThePhilosophicalOne you want guests to be able to touch the millions year old fossils in the actual collection? Yeah, no. They have the fossils, just outside of guest viewing so actual scientists can study them.
I adore the fact that for King Kong he immediately points out that the movie covers for inaccuracies to a degree because these dinosaurs have had since the extinction event to evolve.
this has 100% got to be my favorite “professional rates movie scenes about their field of study” ever
The blacksmith/swordsmith was equally as good. Brutal honestly
I will always find it both disappointing and hilariously adorable that actual velociraptors were basically just super pissed off turkeys.
They were basically the Compys only slightly bigger lol
They really are just large chickens
😂
That's what the fat kid on first Jurassic park would say.
Deinonychus is basically what the movie dinosaurs are supposed to be, but they liked the name Velociraptor instead.
This paleontologist is so informative and is obviously a movie geek as well. Awesome!
Yep!
yes! he teaches a geology in cinema class! Loved it!
He knows more about Dinosaurs than cinema give credit that much night at museum he couldn’t put magic stone together that trex bone wouldn’t break bones hit wall he didn’t mention it of course wouldn’t break stone tablet makes everything come to life even bones of course bones wouldn’t hitting hard surface
@@dragonball3166 i had a stroke trying to read that
Go to the Archaix channel and learn real world history.... Dinosaurs are all made up....
I could have listened to him talk about this stuff for another hour and a half. Absolutely loved it!!
During the Summer months, Hagrid had other professions that he enjoyed indulging himself in. It wasn't always Hippogryphs and Cerberus'.
Ha! That's too funny! He does look like Hagrid
OK.
Except it would be the same profession: Fantastical beasts. Fumbled it at the finish line.
Honestly Hagrid WOULD love dinosaurs wouldn't he?😂
I think he dressed up for Hagrid for Halloween cuz he mention it in the class he taught
It’s honestly really nice to see a professional not bash these movies because of inaccuracies but instead he just calmly explains them
He probably chose this profession because of he loved these movies growing up.
Also maturity and getting paid by Vanity Fair to do this in 2022
Also he differentiates between movies that got it wrong because of what the knowledge was at the time, and movies that got it wrong because of artistic decisions/ignorance/lazyness.
He is not insulted. We just don't know that much about the creatures. Much guessing has to be done.
but he does make one mistake again and that is comparing the velociraptors to velociraptors, technically the velociraptors are Velociraptor antirrhopus, also known as deinonychus, the little skull he showed was a Velociraptor mongoliensis, but at the time of writing some thought that deinonychus was part of the velociraptors. halfway writing that got known to be wrong, but the name was kept as it sounded scarier.
"T-Rex wins, as it would against any dinosaur"
Love a man who takes strong stances
Obviously no dinosaur would have won 100% of its battles, but the most OP terrestrial predator that nature ever created probably would have had a higher win rate than almost every other dinosaur.
Most sauropods would win in a fight versus the tyrant lizard, or most non sauropod-dinosaurs for that matter
@@theangrysuchomimus5163 most non sauropod dinosaurs would lose to a tyrannosaurus.
most sauropods would win yeah but majority of non sauropod dinosaurs would lose to an apex predator like t-rex.@@theangrysuchomimus5163
Triceratops would turn T-Rex into a pin cushion
9:25 "probably the best thing to do is stay ahead of the people in your group" after explaining that dinos are faster than humans is craaaaaaazy 🤣🤣
I love that Dr. Loewen understands that most changes were for dramatic reasons, scientific discoveries that were now known at the time, or the Rule of Cool.
Then he essentially refuses to critique Fantasia.
Respect.
Facts. If someone with a massive ego like Jack Horner was on he’d have made this video all about how much he hates T.rex
Predators won't do two things:
- They won't make lot of noise before attacking because you want to catch prey, not warn it or scare it off
- They almost never attack each other. Predators have to avoid being injured. An injury to an herbivore might not be fatal since plants don't move. For a carnivore they have to hunt and kill prey and an injury that interferes with this could result in starvation.
Definitely. Even a sprained tendon can be a death sentence to a predator. I can’t imagine any big carnivorous dinosaurs having full blown fights to the death every time they meet.
They also don't like to fight as they would rather spend the energy looking for food over fighting
@@Lucaz99 Just like most current top predators do not randomly fight each other.
@@ballislife9924 But omnivores do. Wolves, Bears etc
i mean yeah. Predators that have never met wouldnt. But lions kill hyenas on sight. So thats just not true. They give up quickly for the reason u said. But animals fight when they perceive a threat. Same with dolphins and sharks. Crows and owls etc. But true, carnivores give up fights a lot quicker than herbivores
13:46 the guy managed to explain something about a kid movie with putting even more magic in it. Baby long necks were as cute as Little Foot... 🥺
wdym little foot ugly asf
Hardly a kid's movie..
@@zyxzyx3030 because it's sad and dark? 😂
Excellent presentation. I knew this battle between Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus was pure fiction. The power of T-Rex was unbelievable
Since the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park movies are designed and their DNA is altered, theoretically they could've made spinosaurus as big as bad as they wanted. I think this movie was also made during a time when they only had one discovered spinosaurus skeleton (I think there are literally only 7 partial skeletons, and no full ones even today) so the spinosaurus in the movie was an accurate representation of what they believed at the time it actually looked like. Since then they've discovered more and Spinosaurus has created a lot of controversy in the Paleo community lol
I love how he looks like he can just sit down anywhere, anytime with anyone and just spew dino facts for hours. He looks so fun!
To be fair, the eyesight thing was portrayed differently in the JP novel.
In the novel, the animals were given amphibian motion based vision as a way to make them less dangerous on purpose. Grant knew this because one of the scientists told him about it.
In the movie it's just treated as part of his expertise. I dont know if any expert worth a darn thought T rex had bad vision in the early 90's. As a dinosaur nerd kid, I had read that their vision likely exceeded that of modern day birds of prey. When I saw the movie and hes like "their vision is based on movement" and I'm whispering 'no its not!'
It was Horners idea. He is known to hate trex. The guy is a farce. If only we could go back and have this guy on set instead!
gosh i love the book. i have the audio book on my phone i used to listen to it when i went on long walks. i need to do that again. both the long walks and give that book another go.
Evolution cannot account for a land animal having the eyesight of an airborne raptor
There would be no need of it
Of course evolution cannot answer how a giraffe 🦒 doesn't have a a cerebral aneurysm everytime it takes a drink.
And don't get me started on how the bombadier beetle befuddles darwinism.
God is real Jesus Christ is His only begotten son. Jesus is the way the truth and the light and if you're not His you're going to a very real place of eternal damnation.
As for dinosaur, they're part of creation, a young creation.
Despite commonly accepted lies.
@@GoxBoy The novel is such a page turner. Still love the movie more than almost any movie, though.
It makes sense since the movie also mentions that amphibian DNA was used to construct these dinosaurs.
Mark was my professor in a class called "World of Dinosaurs" over at the U of U! I always described him as Hagrid in a hawaiian shirt. One of my favorite professors, congrats on VF, Prof. Loewen! 🦖🦕
Its like having my Dad back criticising movies again, only my dad wore a tweed cap and had no beard. Really fascinating/entertaining!
This was my teacher for “Science in Cinema” at University of Utah!! What a great guy! We watched “The Core” and it was so dope!
Same! I took the exact same class
That sounds like such a fun class! I'm jealous.
That class sounds like a fun time.
Not sure of the practicality of it as a university class, but whatever.
@@whitewhale9012 to fulfill useless credits?
@@quirkyfilms8921 that's exactly what it was for, I took the same class with the same guy last year. This guy is one of my favorite teachers I've ever had.
Y’all always find the coolest and most genuinely interesting people in whatever their career is. Idk how y’all do it, but I love it!! Keep it up 😄
Not always
I could watch an entire series of this man talking about dinosaurs.
same
Need a part 2 of this. Its crazy interesting, especially with how Mark explains things.
I simply love how he has every sort of thing to visually examplificate what he's talking about, literally "well this dinosaur looked quite like this" *takes miniature dinosaur out of somewhere*
Stores them in his beard
Examplificate. Thanks for the new word! :)
@@zingzangspillip1 I'm not native English speaker, don't trust my vocabulary lol
@@zingzangspillip1 not exemplificate. Exemplify would fit here though.
Exemplification is also a word.
Yes, I know. Mixing the tenses is fun, though.
I will never forget the T-Rex scene in Jurassic Park, classic I remember how scary and effective it was with no music just the sounds of the rain, it was so loud in the theater (I'm that old but I was really young lol) and also the Raptors in the Kitchen I remember their call being soooo loud too.
i remember
the first time my family got the movie on a CD, it had kinds of bugs in that made the sound pop out really loud and i guess that just made the experience much scarier..
since today i am still terrified of this movies and cannot watch any of them without feeling anxious or in panic, i think this could be because of the CD bugs or even because i was really young but after all it just caused me a little trauma ✋😭
The animal sounds in that movie were revolutionary. The theater experience was well worth the money.
It was the first movie i ever saw in cinema. I was 7 years old at that time. Thus my love for movies was born
Of course Hagrid is interested in every dangerous animal, magical or not 😁
this made me chuckle lol
He was one of my professor’s in college and he definitely dressed up as Hagrid for Halloween.
Dinosaurs are magical. Especially genetic engineered ones
Ha! He is sortuva Paleo-Hagrid
Hagrid also does stand up comedy th-cam.com/video/f6nBQ9rv8OU/w-d-xo.html
Nice to see that Hagrid branched out to paleontology.
In the Jurassic Park series, I chalked up any Dino inaccuracies to the DNA tampering/filling in the gaps.
I think the book says the same.
That's kinda my guess. Since they can't get the purest DNA to copy.
Also, for both theme parks. Dinosaurs were made to be scary, not accurate
Yep, Jurassic Park (and the writers) knew the dinos they described would not be accurate forever and made sure that when the time came they had an explanation.
Yeah, I get why paleontologists feel the need to point out inaccuracies with those movies and/or books. But I respectfully tend to feel the need to scream at them that they're genetically altered. They're *not* supposed to be pure dinosaurs. So the complaint that they aren't like what the common theory of what the dinosaurs were like at the time they were released is actually kind of pointless.
I was SO AFRAID you were gonna judge Fantasia through a modern lense. It was this segment that kick started my love of dinosaurs as a child and it still has a special place in my heart
I love that he critiqued Night at the Museum but still acknowledged it's just a fun movie and not meant to be serious
This bloke was absolutely fantastic. Sometimes in this series they're far too basic in the explanations but he respected the audience enough to just give a concise explanation to each example whilst accepting that these are not meant to be fully accurate representations.
I’d have to disagree, I’m not sure where they found this guy he seems to be not very well informed, I’m pretty sure it was discovered that triceratops and brontosaurus never existed, And where bones of other dinosaurs. And he refers to them multiple times.
It was once theorized that triceratops was just a young torosaurus but that theory was proven false.
Probably because he loves what he is doing
@@tomura7739 I am not sure what you mean by brontosaurus and triceratops never existed. Triceratops existed. The debate was where it belonged in the main groups of other similar dinosaurs.
Yes, Brontosaurs was rejected for a long time as just another Apatosaurus, but in 2015 it was proposed that Brontosaurus had distinct features not found Apatosaurus and was its own genus with 3 species. So saying that he is wrong is not taking all the information into account. He could be among those that support Brontosaurus as a genus.
Also for whatever reason Brontosaurus has pop culture recognition. More lay people will know what you're talking about by saying Brontosaurus than Apatosaurus. Even if they are wrong in identifying them.
@@tomura7739 get educated
The idea of having Chris Pratt train a raptor like a dog is the most Hollywood thing I’ve ever heard 😂
Yeah, I thought he would address how ridiculous that is.
Raptors in Jurassic Park: Dangerous hunters without any remorse killing almost everything in a blink of an eye
Raptors in Jurassic World: Manipulative pets
Didn't they explain that in the movie that they bred them to be more domesticated? Or am i forgetting something.
@@krschu00 It's all nonsense anyway. So it's, "all good".
@@BillOweninOttawa well the whole premise is nonsense if you wanna go that far with jt
Love that he balances critique & respect for Land Before Time….
As any scholar should.
4:01 Little bit of trivia. The book(s) which the movies are partial adaptations of actually use Deinonychus instead of Velociraptor. This was changed because it aounded cooler and now we live in the timeline where people think Velociraptor looked that big.
Crichton referred to Deinonychus as Velociraptor antirrhopus in the first novel, but at least one of the raptors (the cloned baby that the characters are shown in the lab during the tour) is stated to be a Velociraptor mongoliensis, which is the species that the raptor skull shown here belongs to.
More of this man, PLEASE
I'm pushing 40, but now more than ever I want to pursue a degree in his field.
Go for it man you’re 40 years young!
Do it! Life truly begins at 40 anyway
i mean, if you wanna... where do you even begin?
Hey Aaron, if you get started, then I'll catch up with you, man. I've always wanted to be a paleontologist too, and I turn 30 in two more years.
go for it!!!! follow your dreams & best of luck
I really appreciate this paleontologist's attitude towards these depictions of dinosaurs. Yes, a lot of them are terribly inaccurate, but most people who study paleontology and/or geology fell in love with the subject because of one or more of the movies shown here.
He doesn’t know only about paleontology. He also knows a lot about the history of paleontology. Really cool.
Vanity Fair, we NEED a part 2 of this where Mark just reacts to Prehistoric Planet episode by episode! Would be eternally grateful
I'd sit and watch the Jurassic Park series with this guy just so he can explain every inaccuracy in a super chill way
Mark is the best professor ever! I was lucky enough to take his class a few semesters ago. One of my favorite college experiences
Waaw.... Tell us more about it... Was it in Utah?
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius University of Utah in Salt Lake City
Must've been a shocker to see your former professor in a Vanity Fair video, eh? Lol. You sure must've had a great experience with this man as a professor. He's definitely both smart and funny.
The dinosaur trope that always gets me, and it's used more in documentaries than in movies, is the one where the paleontologist pulls out a 1.5" paintbrush and starts whisking sand off of an obviously shaped, solid dinosaur bone loosely buried in pea-gravel.
The term was made up in the 1870's to hide true world history.... they never really existed.
I know! They always make digging up fossils look hilariously easy.
I tend to think the "they aren't actually dinosaurs" covers a lot of the bs in the Jurassic series. They are a businessman playing Frankenstein with genetics to sell theme park tickets he's goin gto make them cool and terrifying not realistic.
Yea in Jurassic World Wu did say, "You didn't ask for realistic you asked for more teeth." Even in the 1st Jurassic Park they knew the looks would be off.
I had this guy as a professor back in college during the pandemic, and everyday we'd spend the first 30-45 minutes just watching through all the Jurassic Park films and he'd talk about stuff in them and it was so much fun. He was easily one of the best professors I ever had.
I could watch this man talk about dinosaurs for hours, and it would leave me with a smile on my face and a more complex understanding. Quality content
A concept that was briefly suggested in the in the Jurassic Park films and all out confirmed in the Jurassic World movies is that InGen wasn't setting out to create scientifically accurate Dinosaurs, the were looking to create theme park monsters.
While this is true in concept and thus execution, remember, most of us watched these films as kids and, to us, this is how they were in real life in their own time. We didn't know better. We do now, but many of us didn't back then. (Heck, some paleontologists were still uncertain about some of these facts back then) That being said, while the Velociraptors in the park were genetically engineered, what about the fossil that Dr. Alan Grant found in the desert and described. He described a Velociraptor while holding a claw the size of a Utahraptor's. *shrug*
@@TheMarukeru The Velociraptors in JP are supposed to be Deinonychus, Creighton just liked the name "Velociraptor" more. The movie still made them a bit bigger but the difference isn't as noticeable when you consider that. The fossil in the desert at the beginning of the movie is in Montana, around where you'd find Deinonychus.
@@priscyllathewitch298 Deinonychus was classified as velociraptor in some source material both Crichton and Spielberg used to make their JP works. Greg Paul even made artwork specifically for the production of spielbei movie that was used in said movie.
It is just a retcon. Jurassic Park and The Lost films very much articulated that ingen intended to create the real thing, it was only starting in JP/// that they threw out the lazy line by grant so that they could explain away a lack of feather cover for the raptors and introduce the quilled ones. Jurassic world doubled down on that with more lazy dialogue with Wu.
@@scottb3034 That's also true. The naming of Deinonychus as V. antirrhopus was always controversial but I do recall seeing that Velociraptor was still preferred for the book and movie since it sounded "more dramatic" than Deinonychus.
Around where I live, there's a guy that goes by Paleo Joe and he does group talks about paleontology. In the 3rd grade, our class went to see him and he was so impressed with how much I knew and was engaging with him he gave me a chocolate trilobite. I was stoked. I asked my teacher on the bus ride back to school if I could eat it and she said no. It melted and I still remember my disappointment 22 years later. I should have just eaten it.
Ok lol 😂
Your story made me smile ^^ thank you!! Hopefully you get your chocolate trilobite again!!!
This is either the most or least relatable thing I've ever heard, and the fact I can't tell is scaring me.
Shouldn't have asked.
I always thought the innacuracys in Jurassic Park was due to the DNA being mixed. In the first movie and book its said that they filled any leftover DNA gaps with tree frog DNA and probably others to give them the correct appearance. Alan also acknowledged the fact that dinosaurs are the ancestors to modern day birds in the opening scene where he talks about the Velociraptor being more like a bird than a reptile
In movie they found unauthorized breeding. I am not zoologist but African frogs can change their gender
I've wanted to be a paleontologist since I was 3. I will be 50 in 2 weeks. If I win the lottery, I am quitting my very good job as a nurse and enrolling in college, that's how much dinosaurs mean to me. Thank you for this video, and thank you for not being derogatory in your observations!
I hope you do this 👍🏾
I wish you the best of lucks!
I hope you make your dream come true one day
I’m 29 and feel like it’s too late to try and be a paleontologist. Plus, I’m horrible at math so lol
I wanted to he an Astrophysicist but I don't mix well with maths. I went to Sound Engineering school instead. If I win the lottery I'm gonna buy the 8th floor apartment in the last building on Beach Ave. in Vancouver and smoke weed all day. I already smoke weed all day but I'd have a much nicer view of English Bay.
I want him to describe Jurassic World’s hybrids and break them down and tell us what they’d look like and how they’d behave according to the dinos and creatures in their genomes.
That is impossible because they're completely fictional movie monsters and will do whatever the screenwriters says they'll do.
@@ImVeryOriginal BASED on the creatures USED to create the hybrids.
@@Waaris_771 who cares about the trash jw dinosaurs
@@TEAMHUMAN1 They ain’t trash. Despite the inaccuracies, they’ve been portrayed in a very entertaining way and so many people love them. Dinosaurs are dinosaurs, however you want to portray/perceive them.
@@Waaris_771 Thing is, the hybrids portrayed cannot be guessed like that as they already have set behaviours, the indominus rex didn't even know what it was and was seeing where it fit on the food chain, it was highly intelligent and killed for sport.
The Indoraptor however is different, it is psychotic and a murder machine, its entire purpose was to be made for war, even if this animal was a prototype it showed extreme malice
How and Why does everybody forget the 2000 movie Dinausor?! Amazing visuals for its time! I'd love to hear Mark Loewen or any paleontologist talk about that movie!
I love that movie when I was a kid
Yes!!
The Stegosaurus baby animatronic was actually intended to be a Triceratops which is why it has the weird snout.
This guy is awesome, but I think it’s important to point out that the whole premise of Jurassic Park/World is irresponsibly bringing dinosaurs back to life with a mix of other DNA to fill in gaps, so some of these inaccuracies could possibly be explained by that. Just a kind of nitpick but this is still great
Actually in the book they go more in depth into the science of how they made the dinosaurs. The reason there's the whole idea that the t-rex cant see movement is in the book when the t-rex attacks Dr Grant and the others, they were standing still and didnt get attacked. They were confused about it but then Grant remembered that the scientists mentioned they used amphibian dna for some of the dinos. Grant mentions that some species of tropical frog struggle to see no moving targets which is when he draws to the conclusion that the t rex cant see non moving targets.
There is always that weird velociraptor's skeleton at the beginning of Jurassik park
Jurassic world also has Wong say they wanted them bigger and cooler
@@jackj9816 exactly
@@HaloWingProductions yes!
fun fact! there was never an official name for the spiked tail of a stegosaurus, until Gary Larson made a comic about it sometime in the 90s. He called it the Thagomizer (“for the late Thag Simmons”) and because the paleontological community had no actual name for it, it ended up getting officially adopted.
that is actually so cool, you've just given me a new fact to annoy my friends with!
"Again, T-Rex wins just as it would win against any Dinosaur" I love this man.
Me too
Not a dragon
Imagine the image of a trex if it was a dragon 😊
@@mjskye9938 he said "dinosaur", not "fictional animals"
Stupid quote. A lot of dinos can wreck a Rex
14:03 I read that Littlefoot is officially recognised as an Apatosaurus 🦕
I had Dr. Loewen for a class last year, where he taught about science in cinema. He's a great professor and I am so happy to see him in this video.
Same here
He's a liar. The term Dinosaur was made up in the 1870's to hide true world history.... go to the Archaix channel.
Good to see Hagrid pursuing other interests now that Hogwarts isn't a thing anymore. 🤣
You went for the lowest hanging fruit
Lol
I thought I was the only one 😂
He would be a great Hagrid.
@@oliverjabroni9912 I picked the same fruit, was delicious!
I always hated the "Can't see us if we don't move" scene. Because, even if some how that stupdi idea was right, that it could only see moving things. It could and would still smell them. It wouldn't help one bit at all.
In the lost world novel there’s a scene where the bad guys try this, turns out that doesn’t apply to the T rexes on sorna as then the make t rex eats one of the bad guys and chases the other two.
@@hubertdenise3100 That's not what happens at all though lol.
I'm pretty sure it's the fact it's rexy, she's been shown to have a soft side for humans in the franchise, which the other t rexs do not.
And of course it would be knocking itself out on trees etc all the time as it couldn't see they were there.
I love that when you get far enough in your particular field of science you’re just allowed to look like a wizard and everyone is yeah “well yeah he’s a scientist”
In the original Jurassic Park novel, the reason the T-rex could only see movement and the dilophosaurus spat venom were side effects of how the DNA was spliced together with modern species. Also the reason why some of the dinosaurs could breed. I highly recommend the novel, it's goes a lot more into the science behind the dinosaurs as well as Chaos Theory.
It's also used as a baxplanation on why none of them have feathers BTW.
It’s so mind numbing when time gets put into perspective like how he mentioned that there’s more time between allosaurus and the t-rex than there is between the t-rex and us 😱
Yet plenty of loonies believe we've only been around like 6,000-10,000 years, and we - the planet, all life, everything - magically spawned into existence all at once after some cosmic deity snapped its fingers.
Yeah it's kinda nuts that in the grand scheme of things, we as humans only live for a blink of the eye. Compared to the universe as a whole and it's such a long time via our perspective
One of my favorite facts in that regard, is that we live closer to the birth of Jesus, than he did to the construction of the great pyramids.
Yep, the Allosaurus is late Jurassic (155-145 mya), and T. rex came about towards the end of the Cretaceous period (68-66 mya). That's almost 100 million years' difference.
@@griffgames9538 You can say what you want, but you can't disprove the fact we were indeed snapped into existance by Thanos.
Glad to see Land Before Time getting some love and recognition. One of the most beautiful animated films ever
yess❤
I cried at the scene where he thought his own shadow was his mother 😢 at least he found his grandparents
And the music!
I think I rewatched them so much that I ended up disliking them lol
@@defend4ever the sequels were pretty bad but the original film to me was just god tier
I've always been really impressed by the Fantasia Rite of Spring sequence. Given the time when it was made, it's actually pretty forward-thinking and more accurate than a lot of modern films.
The one I found kind of interesting was his comment about One Million Years BC where he explained how large theropods like the T-Rex were thought to rest on their tails, using it as a third leg, back in the time when the movie had been made. I never really noticed that before, but yeah - older movies really do show them that way. Godzilla - at least, the old-school version of Godzilla - was certainly depicted that way to the point where it just looked really awkward.
He could be only two things: either a paleontologist, or a biker.
Why not both?
Both is good.
I know he was a bartender at one point.
He could be a rock singer
nah bro he’s hagrid
I heard somewhere that the dinosaurs they called Velociraptors were actually based on Deinonychus, they just changed the name because they thought it sounded better. I personally think 'terrible claw' sounds more intimidating than 'swift robber', but I guess that's just me.
I mean, that's only if you understand Latin.
@@itsthebiggiecheese9213 and greek...
That's correct, they based them on Deinonychus, but it wasn't actually big enough either for what they wanted, and they wanted to make them even bigger. But luckily Utahraptor was discovered around the same time and that justified their decision on making the raptors Utahraptor sized. And you're very right they kept the name incorrectly as Velociraptor simply because they thought it sounded cooler.
It was more because at the time the book was being written, Deinonychus was thought to be a species of Velociraptor. This idea fell out of favor but Crichton still called them Velociraptor.
Velociraptor is literally “super fast bird of prey” and if that’s not a catchy name, idk what is
Mark looks like Robbie Coltrane when he played Hagrid and I love it.
I remember reading the T-Rex barely made any noise (much less roar like in the JP movies). It was probably more like a low, deep thrumming.
I heard it was because if they roared that loud in the movies they would blow out their eardrums
I always imagine big theropods also make growl and hiss like gators, or rumble like elephants.
I don't know about long roar like the one depicted in JP, but perhaps some of them can make short and loud sound for intimidation.
Watch Prehistoric Planet for a scientifically accurate depiction of T. Rex and other dinosaurs and prehistoric animals, including the sounds they made.
@@ExtremeMadnessX already did! I was highly anticipating the show and it did not dissapoint.
He probably mentioned that but they probably cut it out
One thing to remember when granting "artistic interpretation" to the JP and JW dinos, these dinos had their genes spliced with various other lizards and amphibians to make complete genome sequence. Further, Ingen is also known within that franchise to be involved in other genetic manipulation as well. So it stands to "movie reason" that something like a frilled dilophosaurus could exist in that world.
We likely haven't even discovered a percentile of the creatures that existed in the Mesozoic age. It is entirely possible dinosaurs with frills existed, we simply don't know and a lot of speculation in media has to be artistic interpretations.
This was confirmed to a point. The genetically modified dinosaurs had mutations, intentionally or otherwise.
not all of them were genetically engineered.
@@laurenskee2665 what does this even mean
@@laurenskee2665 They said they were in the movies, though.. in order to fill in the gaps in the DNA strands. It's in the tour, explained by Mr. DNA.
I wish he’d reviewed “Dinosaur”. I loved that movie when it came out cause the animation was so different than anything I’d seen at the time. Still one of my favorites as an adult and of course “We’re Back” was and still is another favorite of mine but I understand why that one definitely wasn’t reviewed.
You know we're back was a Spielberg one with so many JP Easter eggs in it?
The colouring of Rex, JP is showing at the cinema when the stampede happens and if you're quick, mr Spielberg himself is in the crowd!
@@user-ho7mg9ol7w I haven’t seen it in so long, I’ll have to rewatch it one of these nights and pay attention to the JP references. I’m surprised nobody really talks about that movie anymore cause it was a huge favorite of mine as a kid. I went through a severe dinosaur phase as a kid 🤣
I could listen to him talking about dinosaurs for ages
"Super cute, you'd want to meet it in a petting-zoo." I love this series, and this guy has been my favorite expert so far.