Two Old Farts Talking About Their Pet Peeves @4xoverland
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Statler and Waldorf are back! :)
You two should do a regular show, and call it Two Grumy old men. Great video look forward to the pair of you doing another.
Why do slow vehicles speed up when you want to overtake?
I am home, I thought I was listening to myself, just an old guy cussing at the clouds and maybe even shaking my fist at them. Salve for the soul.
I'm 53. I did metal and wood work at school. My 18 year old son has never heard of those classes.
I am 58, and I sadly never had the chance to learn any metal working in school, but I did have one class on wood working.
I'm 56, and we had metal and woodwork classes in school in South Africa. There was even an engine that ran in the metal work classroom, and the teacher would teach boys how it worked😅
@@labourlawact7826 If they had taught girls how engines work, that would have made them OP, or what?
@MorningNapalm OP?
The girls had sewing classes, and NO boy would have dared attend that in the 80's 🤭🤭🤭
Girls at my school had to do both and i’m younger than you. Boys had to do home economics as a quid pro quo. Should still be taught in my books.
This has lightened my day with a few laughs from a pair of gentlemen who speak common sense 😂
I still hold on to my ancient Mitutoyo Vernier calipers.
2 of my favourite content creators in conversation! More please!
❤ I can’t wait. I promise to watch tonight. You guys are hilarious. I am camping ⛺️ currently on the Olympic peninsula in a “caravan”, I know how you both love them.
😂😂😂😂absolutely brilliant 👏 i laughed alot, the caravan part was the best
YES! I love it when you two have chats.
I got no issue with people who drive below the speed limit, but when they speed up to the speed limit on overtaking lanes that really gets my blood boiling
Ah, the big 5 inch power Angle Grinder - called the "Angry Man" at our place
quite a great talk ,awesome and outstanding.thanks for sharing and talking us along
This is great lol please do more
LO, I can relate to your story about being in a fast car, but not the fastest, on the Autobahn, and needing to give way to faster cars, and I live in Germany and drive a 911! I have to move over sometimes.
Wonderful chat. I very much enjoyed it...
Fellas that was a bloody great collaboration! If the masses agree please do another one in the future. For what it's worth, whilst both of you may have grey hair and many of the comments mention grumpy old men, I personally found everything you discussed completely relevant and relatable and I'm 35, so please keep it up!
Gents. So Entertaining. Thanks.
John is a double-edged sword: his mind is sharp and his tongue is sharper :D
Thanks for the laughs chaps.
Saved the best peev till last...
Keep you no nonsense approach to your channel. A no bullsh*t approach is what most expect. From a big fan!
Awesome chat, please more
I had the same crap with pool inspections, the thing I couldn't understand was that the next door neighbour could put up a ladder from their side and step over straight into the pool.
Great video! I really enjoyed you gentlemen talking about all sort of things!
Here's something about the gun situation in the US. First, I would say the guy in that Sportsmobile told you no one would mess with you because they'd assume you're all heavily armed was exaggerating the need for safety-for effect, cool factor, whatever. I live in Arizona and have camped out in the middle of nowhere and never felt unsafe. Being armed has just been a precaution-like wearing a seat-belt. I feel far more need when in a city. The other thing is that the cities which have banned or highly restricted firearm ownership-like Los Angeles, Detroit, New York, etc. actually have the highest violent crime rates.
By the way, I worked as a Public Safety Officer in Florida and often rode shotgun with my friend, a Deputy Sheriff, both in a squad car and in a little police boat. I also served five years as an Arizona Ranger (we are auxiliary law enforcement but fully armed). I was part of a training for dealing with active shooters in which a local high school was inhabited by actors and we had to make our way through to find the "shooter", all of us using special firearms that chambered only Simunition (plastic bullets that hurt like hell and even draw blood). That doesn't make me an expert, but I have been around stuff, and the aforementioned statistics are confirmed by FBI records and other crime records.
I was born in Cuba and my parents fled that regime to escape the communist oppression. Some of my family members were in concentration camps. One thing they always told me was how Castro used Batista's gun registration system to find out who owned guns and then confiscate them with Castro's phrase: "Armas para que?" which translates more or less to "guns for what purpose?". This was followed by imprisonment, torture, and executions of dissidents-as in all other similar systems.
Also, the "gun death clocks" and stuff like that count deaths from criminals shot by police as well as gang on gang violence to skew the numbers. There are morons in every race, creed, color, and nationality. Don't be fooled by the skewing by the media about gun owners: just about every gun owner I have met-including out in the South where people have created bad stories, has been a decent, responsible person.
One thing I can say is the problem has been the steady decline of morals, values, and common decency. Kids in the US used to ride their bicycles to school carrying target rifles on their backs to compete in school. High school students often drove to school with a rifle and/or shotgun on a rack behind the seat. Most kids had knives on them. A good friend did a show and tell in his middle school with his dad's 1911 pistol. There were no metal detectors or bans. there were still fights. No shootings or stabbings. Now schools have metal detectors and checks and bans, and shootings and stabbings while teachers and students get to play sitting ducks.
Anyway, thanks for another good show, and I hope my long-winded reply wasn't too boring!
Hope you're having a blast in Africa!!!
Ahhh I am back. Evening around the campfire 🔥. Caravan parked just next to me.
So good
Haha John finally got to caravans. ❤Worth the wait.
I have a mate who had a Welding and fabrication shop in rural Australia who had an employee (who had certified training) who took the guard off a 9" angle grinder and fitting somehow a 15" dropsaw blade to it. First spin up, the blade came apart. A bit slashed his throat and he bled to death on the spot. Workplace prosecuted him and it cost him $80k in legals fees, plus fines, plus a consultant to rework his HSE system. The guy was a nice guy and it was a sad funeral but he he did it to himself is the general opinion. This matter broke him and he sold the business and retired. That's a shit deal.
The drivers from the sub continent in Sydney are shocking. They only need to show a piece of paper from the home country and can drive here. If you see a Camry or a Corolla. Keep your distance.
Thanks for the entertainment gents.
The conversation around gund and camping was interesting. I'm in the US and have camped, done remote travel, overland, all my life.
I've never once had a conversation like Andrew did with his mates.
I own guns but never travel with them. Over the course of 30 years I've never felt unsafe remote camping or traveling here across all the western states and mountain states.
The gun situation is a bit overblown.
I will say that the gun violence problem here is illegal guns and drug trafficking coming over the Mexico border.
Australia has no such 3rd world situations on the border.
As an aside, both of you on the same channel is brilliant. I enjoy both your channels.
Oh no, I pretty sure that I have the both of you on notification. Never did I think you'd gang up!
I was encouraged, engaged and bored listening to two alternate versions of myself, one with hair and one with an Australian accent.
I suppose freedom is a concept
I watch how much I drive around in a bid to conserve fuel, but I basically gave up being concerned over fuel cost some 7 years ago, as I have no control over fuel costs, and try to not take any notice when I go visiting family 700klm out of Sydney.
ET in his spaceship is a glorified caravan. He would be going to the loo too.
There's only one old fart in this show.
digital calipers are fine. if it shows 0.001 digits it means that the 0.01 is an accurate reading. at least that is how i learned it. if producing multiple examples of a part, it helps on judging tolerances. did i need that? absolutely. would i need it at a home garage? probably not.
Apologies if covered as I'm dozing, but hates should include news reporting in units of lengths of football fields / buses and the exact conversions of approximations. "The vessel sank in 200m (656.16 feet) of water". Edit: on German Autobahns, uncharacteristically incompetent roadworks is a major irritation issue, with temporary yellow tape road lanes that flap dangerously loose in wet weather.
Andrew, your voice is becoming very husky, and it’s almost like your whispering at some points, everything ok?
Great content to both of you, keep up the good work
OODA Loop or Boyd Cycle.
I'm sure that John in his engineering degree learnt about the concept of significant numbers as I did. The younger ones now don't seem to learn this Just because a spreadsheet will display a shitload of decimal places but they don't mean anything.
30:00 Sometimes, and I say that as someone who's lived their entire life here, that's exactly what it feels as though the UK functions like. I don't think you've explored other cultures and working practices do you realise how antiquated the UK is sometimes.
Although I have never been to Australia I know it has very vast expanses like Texas does. One the infrastructure is not sufficient to handle it and people gave lost all courtesy as is. Running EV’s anywhere but the city is moronic at best.
Why is it that I find myself in agreeance with most comments.
I do carry a portaloo in the back of the ute though as I'm sick of observing everyone else's effluent markings. The amount of toilet paper blowing around at some camp sites/roadside stops is disgusting. No objection to taking a dump in the bush but please burn your dunny paper!
Would be good if these were time stamped with topic titles :)
Suggestion you to go for a camping trip
👍🙏😊
Will i be called condescending again this time if I say that I’m super happy to see you in a collab video ?
As long as the Hunk don’t start one of his makeup and manscaping tutorials that is…
(Just missing Bruce Simpson from XJet and Big Clive and we can start a retirement home youtube channel)
You think Australian drivers are bad... I had no accidents in Australia... 1 year in the Philippines and I've been impacted by 5 scooters so far... All of them doing things that would be illegal like overtaking on the inside, hitting you from behind, etc.
The standard of drivers in Australia is appalling. I was removed from an internet 4x4 forum, because I was criticising the young men bragging about how good autonomous braking worked, and how many times it had saved them. Really? seems to me if you are driving, you don't need autonomous braking.
I ride a motorbike, the shit I see drivers doing when they should be driving does my head in.
A couple trips ago we were in Wyoming in the 80 series all alone with the cruise control set at 67mph. ( speed limit 80 mph ) a car came up behind us and tailgated for a few miles, making me uncomfortable. Virginia asked me, what’s wrong with them? I replied, they’re from New Jersey. Sure enough, when they finally went around us, New Jersey plates. People accustomed to living in metro areas do not know how to drive in wide open places. Price of gas? About 3.75 a gallon here. Up way north, 6.75 a gallon. We have it good here.
You should have pulled over then and let them pass,it's not up to you to set the speed limit,no matter where you're from,whatsmore it's people like you that create frustration to the following driver,shame on you !!
@@mowerman60 Shame on me? They had wide open passing lane for hundreds and hundreds of miles as it is a four lane interstate in Wyoming. The left lane was wide open. All they had to do was pass. Unfortunately for some folks, such as yourself, It is necessary to spell out, in complete detail the entire event, as I was directly referencing a scenario the guys were discussing. My fault for assuming that folks watching Andrew possess an above average intellect. This phenomenon, as I said before, happens a lot on open interstates because people that are accustomed to driving in congested metro areas have nary a clue how to drive in wide open interstates. They tail gate every day and bring that horrible habit with them to the wide open spaces.
MALS, at least you can drive on designated beaches, here in good 3rd world old S.A. you will get fines and possibly depending on the mood of the officer get your vehicle confiscated if caught.
Am working with young guys who can’t even hold a spanner 😢
I might be a bit paranoid, but I feel that the EV revolution is actually designed to limit freedom of movement. Infrastructure, practicality, and efficiency of electric vehicles are not going to achieve any meaningful results within our lifetimes. There’s a backlash against airlines too. The solution, according to the logic, is not to travel beyond walking or cycling distance.
What the real need is a reinvention of the internal combustion/jet engine to make it more efficient towards carbon neutrality, such as engineering alternative fuels to be cleaner and developing power plants that can benefit.
I overland all over the world and attempt to be as eco friendly as possible. But, I’m limited by the basic technology that enables my odysseys but hinders their eco cleanliness. I have solar power banks, rechargeable everything, but a 3 litre petrol engine that uses fossil fuels. I drive responsibly, don’t chew up trails, and I’m contemptuous of anyone that does, but I’m unable to quench my wanderlust and sense of adventure in any other way.
I don’t want my freedom of movement to be limited.
Reactions - to the diverse topics, definitely don't read, TLDR - and move on...
John's peeve re. workshop tools:
Angle grinders and working with hot sharp metal in general does lesd the PPE to include gloves as well as a spark resistant shirt and eye / face protection. (Full risk assessments here)
Rotating machinery - drills, lathes and to a degree milling machines - grab and pull clothing into the death dealer. High speed cutting tools - saws, grinders etc, don't tend to pull in as much as slice through.
Of course under all circumstances keep the fingers - and all body parts out of the danger zone ( including all rotating or reciprocating parts and "spinning" swarf) - eye PPE (rated classes and / or faceshields) - should be used in conjunction with every power tool and most handtools - especially those for performing striking actions..
Peeve re fuel costs - simply work out how mich catching a taxi everywhere will cost - if you don't like cars, catch a taxi, or get on a bus... (taxi to the train station service - there must be a market for a 1-3 mile "commute to train" - to avoid having to wait for the 65 seat bus to come)
Free: Americans are only as free as the recognition their "betters" have for the constitution.
If the political class decrees the "freedom lovers" are now enemies of the state - they wouldn't last long, despite whatever they reckon... Rural Australia isn't as firearms free as Americans might presume. lol...
(Even more than a few short arms around the place.)
BS Andrew - -anyone carrying their "Automatic" self defense, work of art" - it is nearly inconceivable that it is truly Automatic, SemiAuto isn't the same thing. (recheck the laws re Auto weapons in the USA, they aren't inexp[ensive, nor free to possess willy-nilly - SemiAuto, military "lookalikes" - aren't harmless in trained hands however, not FullAuto.)
Camping in much of the world - much safer to board in villages (to be truly away from anyone is rare - Australia and the rural USA are nearly unique) than truly camp in rural areas, accepting hospitality is also likely to convey some obligation of protection. Australia is so much safer than nearly any other place, thugs and hoodlims in Africa, South America or Asia are truly hard core - and have no feeling for outsiders.
Measuring tools, I love my 150mm Dial Mitutoyo calipers - so useful, easy to read and perfectly mechanical. (my near-eyesight has got worse over the years.) A fitters pocket 150mm ruler does the bolt selection sizing, number drills (100um drill set need callipers definitely - true fitters / engineers concerns)....
lol, Re. the idiot rural tailgater - refuses to pass, and can't maintain their own game - speeds up in every overtaking zone and slows in every single lane - drafts you, then continues to play cat and mouse - learn to use your own Cruising speed / cruise control, don't drive to the next car, drive your own trip. So much better to fly, no one tailgates you in the air, everyone is flying their own trip - up there (I drive and fly by the numbers)....
Europeans are Particularly clued up to not hog the wrong lanes - and give way to the correct vehicles.
- Lane discipline is number 1.
(I have driven in nearly every country in Europe - East and West - and north America, in some places, if you don't keep up (to the speed of the traffic) the truck behind you will leave you in the ditch.. )
Re Camping - tent or swag camping is a slightly more poverty style of travel - but "minimalism" does have charm - burying sh!t 3 feet deep, behind a campsite, can only be done effectively with incredibly low density of traveller occupancy... (Higher occupancy requires amenities be installed.) - nothing beats Sh!!tting in the back of.... lol....
At last some else who hates gloves with rotary tools. 😊
Drivers not keeping up and slow speed in NSW is a side effect of Draconian speed enforcement and ridiculous fear mongering by those in power eg every K counts, or even a few Ks can kill, and so we have people that are fearfully to even do the speed limit (which isn't the limit that to error margin in speedos)
Car mesmerised as you describe is a side effect of radar cruise control. You have your cruise on, but the car slows down so gently you don't realise it is occurring. It then takes a some kind significant action to realise that you are travelling far slower than you intended.
We are victims of our own design
Andrew has been Telling the Story about TailGaters Long Before Adaptive (Radar) CruseControl was Invented.
Over taking lanes where everybody speeds up.
Keep left unless over taking.
Merging traffic people dont now how to merge anymore.
A 7" angle grinder is worse!
9inch were killers
I know
Can’t disagree with anything you guys have raised. Especially the bit about governing through etiquette. Pretentious and etiquette will never meet.
Maybe you guys have too much money to care about the cost of fuel. Some of us resent those taxes on the fuel we need to avoid using the wheelbarrow.
I resent high hotel tariffs. The cost of fuel is negligible compared to those.
@@railworker8058 not if you're a camper
You really think Governments won’t find a way to replace the Taxation from Fossil Fuels?
It will be Pay Per Mile
A lot of EV Zealots will be upset when that happens
"risk of homicide is 10x higher in the US".... Sure yes... But what about other countries with really high gun ownership but low homicide rates? Could it be guns is either not the issue or not the main issue?
high gun ownership does not equal low laws on the ownership. question is wich country has such loose laws like the us, i mean besides those at war.
@@tomlobos2871 The Czech republic has very loose gun laws, it's easy to get a concealed carry permit, and assault rifles are permitted. The murder rate is 0.12 per 100,000... Australia's murder rate is 0.87 per 100,000. Again, it's plain dumb to say US has guns and crime, Australia has banned guns and doesn't have US crime, therefore guns bad.
Also, people assume homicide = gun. More people are bludgeoned to death each year than shot.
@@xpusostomos dude, maybe not in your country. but a large part of illegal firearms coming to germany and further western europe countrys, are from czech origin. that stuff gets stolen from houses. there are no borders in schengen europe.
@@tomlobos2871 and? You've assumed the guns are bad
I just got to say this...
I like both you guys.
I subscribe to both channels and very few others. I love both your content, BUT, I can't stand it when you get together like this! You're on different planets and it simply doesn't work.
Please, God... MALS by keeping these two apart!
unfortunatly he never leaves bat cave very much?
Andrew. Get angry like you do in your regular episodes. You whispering all the times makes it seem you don't want to wake up Gwen in the next room.
Why associate yourself with this sell-out ASW
The bogan on the right is a bit woke and has fallen somewhat for the propaganda. Good luck to him.