Draymond Green SLAMS Rasheed Wallace's '04 Pistons vs. '17 Golden State Warriors comments
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Draymond Green responds to Rasheed Wallace on whether the 2004 Detroit Pistons would beat the 2017 Golden State Warriors by going through the matchups: Steph Curry vs. Chauncey Billups, Klay Thompson vs. Rip Hamilton, Kevin Durant vs. Tayshaun Prince, and himself vs. Sheed.
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Dude petty asf “That one ring” 😂😂😂
he been hanging out with Shaq
lol Perk and Paul Pierce catching strays.
How is it petty they going back n fourth u say u a beat us lol I'ma just say u only won ONCE
Minus the KD Warriors… that 2015-16 season (73-9) Still matchup up with any elite team pound for pound. And that 2021 Warriors team is severely underrated. I like their odd against a lot of historic teams. In my opinion btw
absolutely! the 15-16 team gets so much sh!t for not winning the whole thing but people act like they lost in the second round. in reality, they were a few plays away from going b2b. they defended the title by winning 73 games in the reg season! They had that target on them and still won the most games ever. Steph jacking up his knee in game 1 of rd 1 severely messed up the timeline.
Steph’s MCL sprain is THE biggest moment in NBA history!! Changes everything! Forced a much tougher run to the finals and Steph had no explosion afterwards… a completely different player post injury!
Stop it
@@brianbanks8570you could argue it the other way if you wanna get into all that, don't forget K Love and Kyrie went down the year the warriors win that first chip. But where are the warriors today if that doesn't happen because they face a healthy Cavs team? Who knows
2021 warriors didn’t even make the playoffs😂 I think u mean the 2022 warriors
Dray only brought out half of his rings to prove his point 😂. Love it
🤣🤣🤣🤣
What point... Warriors stacked the deck with a PRIME KD..soft bull 💩
That proves nothing lol be quiet
😂😂😂yeah
Curry struggled in the finals shooting fg%😂
2015 finals 44%
2016 finals 40%
2017 finals 44%
2018 finals 40%
2019 fina
mf said you played in air force 1s high top unstrapped hahahahaha
straught facts from Dray, the offensive firepower as well as Iguodala and livingston off the bench would be way too much for them. Warriors in 5
Javale David West and Matt Barnes on the roster
Warriors in 4 with a 30+ points difference
Lmao foh warriors in 4 it doesn’t matter how good their defense was the warriors offense is way to great to control and they also had a great defense sorry but 80 points a game is not beating the greatest team ever
KD averaging 40 and it's a sweep. If KD doesn't do his Achilles the warriors threepeat
Hell if klay played they win
They woulda won even if Klay was healthy, bro had 30 points before halftime in game 6
They would've reverse cursed that 3-1 lead by coming back and win with their own deficit imagine how great that would've felt like
4peat too
Nah. Raptors would have still won. Stop the cap.
Dray sound like he’s on the radio responding to beef😂. But all jokes aside no lies were told💯
Draymond FLEXING I LOVE IT
Curry struggled in the finals shooting fg%😂
2015 finals 44%
2016 finals 40%
2017 finals 44%
2018 finals 40%
2019 finals 41%
They really disrespecting a team that went 73-9 and added a 7 ft sniper with guard handles
No disrespect bro that pistons team defense locked down the west all Star team 😂
@@seaniveroni5579yeah locked down what was left of them.that team wasn’t that great if they only won one championship sheed also made a defensive blunder in game 5
@@seaniveroni5579their offense isn’t even comparable to todays hawks, and you think they beating the 17 warriors?
@@SagaTheFunniest there offense got the job done cuz they slowed the game down with defense
@@festusaniemeka3350 yea ok go watch the 2006 all star game when the 4 pistons shut down the west all stars
Lebron didn't beat the Pistons until AFTER Ben Wallace was gone, Larry Brown was gone too. That wasn't the same team..
pistons still had the better team with Wallace prince and rip chris Webber still had an elite defense that year, so you are overrating ben Wallaces impact to take away from a great performance from Lebron
@@ryanr20091 Ben Wallace was the 04 Pistons best player, he's a 4x dpoy and he's the ONLY player on that 04 Pistons team to make the All NBA team AND the ONLY player on that 04 Pistons team to make the All NBA Defensive team, AND he's the ONLY player on that 04 Pistons team that has made the HOF, what you mean I'm over rating him? Again Ben Wallace was their best player....An Larry Brown only coached the Pistons for 2 years in 2004 and 2005 and both years they made the Finals, after he left they never made Finals again. That Pistons team Lebron beat was not the 04 Pistons no matter how bad you wish it was...
@@marlowstanfield6815 Ben was their best defender not player . see tats why you are overrating his contributions.
Lebron in 04 was a rookie . 07 is still much younger less experienced than whole 07 team so they should have the advantage with Rasheed Tayshaun and Hamilton championship experience are enough.
They took out the Orlando magic team with Howard. the point the 07 pistons were a better team than the cavaliers were from a roster standpoint and still lost
@@ryanr20091 Ben Wallace is the only player on the 04 Pistons that made All NBA that year, not just All NBA defense he made BOTH All NBA and All NBA defense, no other player on that 04 Pistons team made either. And Ben Wallace is the ONLY player on the 04 Pistons team that is in the hallafame. Explain how he wasn't their best player?
@@marlowstanfield6815Lebron took the pistons to 7 games at 21 years old and in game 7 when they still had Ben Wallace, and Lebron’s teammates went 9-41 while he was 11-24. Stop it if Lebron at 21 can bring the Pistons to a 7 game series, then the 2017 warriors would absolutely violate the,
17 warriors in my mind is comparable to prime bulls. A toss up
Who u got
Bulls @@wengz717
@@wengz717 Hard to tell. I'd go with Golden State
I’m bias because I’m 35 so I think the warriors. I also know Jordan is the goat and Scotty Can guard KD Steph or Klay
In the end the warriors have to much offensive fire power
No way in hell that team would beat the 17 Warriors.
Detroit beat Kobe and Shaq, they beat Kobe and Shaq!! Idc what era you in that translate to any era 🤷🏾♂️
I hear you much respect to that. They built their team to beat that LA Team. But its not about beating Kobe and Shaq its about GSW Play style. Detroit has no chance against the ball movement its a different offence than Kobe Shaq. And NOBODY has ever and will ever have the shooting power and shot making ability like Steph, Klay and KD. NOBODY.
Shaq was washed up and Kobe was going through his trial that year don’t act like that was prime Kobe and Shaq
Someone forgot a 22year old Lebron James beat them singlehandedly😂😂😂😂
@@reallll2778Kobe went on to win two more championships after that what you mean he wasn’t in his prime?
@@mr_w_9647 I feel like the 03-04 season Kobe’s head wasn’t right because of the trial
Dray is bugging saying that Sheed woulda been a liability on defense 🤦🏾♂️.. totally wrong . Sheed defensive skills and I.Q was highly underrated
The warriors motion offense has defenders better than Rasheed in fits to this day. He never had to face offense like this, the warriors would have feasted on that 04 team
@@mookiestewart3776 Yeah, they smoking rock if they think they could have stuck with the Warriors. Pistons get one game off will and strength. Then it's splash city after that...
@@OvertIntelligence exactly !! Draymond said it best when he told sheed “we made y’all brand of basketball EXTINCT in the nba” , after the 2015 warriors every coach, gm etc etc KNEW that the style of basketball teams like the pistons played would never win you a championship. And now old heads are literally talking shit to the franchise that made that style of play OBSOLETE……it’s fucking cope shit man , it’s insane
@@mookiestewart3776 Yeah, I've noticed dudes be saying all kind of weird shii. Just like Kenyon Martin talking about Kyrie will average 30 against the Celtics. Lolz...These ninjas be on fentanyl. Naw I love the og's but they be having me dying laughing at them sometimes...
@@mookiestewart3776exactly sheed was high when he said that cuz man in they era the most a team scored was probably like 100 ppg
im rooting for Curry Klay and Dray Im an Oakland Warriors Fan once yall are out im most likely gone too Thank you for all you guys have done for my city wish the warriors never left. Chase doesnt hit like the Oracle
They an hour away from the bridge bruh
This is how every discussion should be. Explaining the matchup in detail whether its accurate or not. It gets annoying when a casual fan in the comments just says X team in 4 or 5 in a series or says the opposing team is trash without explaining why. Break down the matchup player by player.
Born and raised in Detroit. Westside. Draymond is 1000% accurate. Lol. All love to that rebranded Bad Boys era though. 04’ was definitely special. 🫡
Draymond you forgetting 2004 Pistons are allowed to handcheck and zone up 😂😂no handchecking or physicality in your era Dray
You think physically is gonna bother Draymond?lol
If you zone against golden state they scoring 180 😂
@@B1GM3R0 warriors are to soft to handle handchecking with zone.. Even Draymond knows his era is not physical 😂
@@kingdoscuarto handcuecking is not all that physical it’s literally putting your hand on a player hip while they dribble and move 😂 you mean to tell me Steve nash billups Sam casell and players like that could handle handchecking but these players can’t
@@B1GM3R0 why you think scoring has gone up after they removed handchecking. NBA was dumb when they had zone defense and handchecking co existing. Removing Handcheck made it easier for guards to dribble and penetrate
Coming from a die hard 04’ pistons fan dray spoke nothing but pure facts! I love the analysis. Great discussion .
Lets not forget tayshaum held prime mcgrady down below his average when they beat orlando
T-Mac was the only thing that was producing in orlando at the time. Hill was injury proned and past his prime, this was also before Dwight Howard
If the Pistons could regulate Kobe, why not KD?
Magic were up 3-1 and Pistons finally put Tay on him and the T Mac was a none factor. Durant would’ve averaged 25.. but shot 20% to get there.
TMac was prone for choking...
@@conchobar7 footer that moves like he 6”3 with a combo Skillset. Who on the Pistons was gone stop that???? KD would’ve had a Field day. Kobe head wasn’t right back then he was going through that case during the time.
That one ring 😂
He said Sheed played in Air Force Ones😂😂😂
Bruh I died 😂😂
He’s 100% correct whether you like it or not 🤷♂️ 💯
I got warriors too but in honestly it’s a 7 game series there’s only a handful of teams who can compete w the 17 warriors ..03 pistons ,02 kings ,96 bulls ,87 Celtics jus for the reason all those teams had depth jus like the warriors but those are legandary matchups Fs
No he isn't 😂
Dray needs to stop the cap. The LeBron Cavs played against a Ben Wallace-less 07 Pistons.
Wallace was with the bulls the same team that the pistons beat that year. the facts are you cant prove that ben Wallace would have made the difference in the series he still beat Rasheed wallace prince Hamilton are all much better than the cavs supporting cast
It went 7 in 2006 - its not far fetched to say Bron woulda beat them in 07 with Ben
It dont matter lebron gonna drop 40 even with ben on that team LMAO
*2004 Pistons would be gassed by the 3rd quarter trying to guard Steph let alone the 2017 Warriors four headed monsters bro, #1 offensive and #2 defensive rating, WARRIORS IN A SWEEP.*
10:36 bro this dude draymond funny ash😂😂😂 but its highkey facts
Love listening to Drey talk basketball. Just stay on the court for the entire year
PLEASE! Go Dubs!
Not even a Draymond ball wise by any stretch. He is definitely one of my favorite voices in sports though.
This dude Draymond crazy as hell 💀 Mans called Rip “a defensive liability” and Sheed “the weak link” I’m dead 😭 That’s a lie. Both were very good defenders, let’s not do that. Simply put if playing by old rules I got pistons if it’s by todays rules then warriors.
You all acting like they can’t play physical and shi, “ old rules old rules. Blah blah blah” first of all this era of NBA will eat all of them the talent is on another level bigs playing guards too fast phase. Your favorite team
Will get blown out in todays game ya’ll just can’t accept the fact 😂 they suspending draymond coz he’s what? Playing dirty? Compared dray to your old school era? They’re just the same. You acting like your 90’s era are murderers or sumn 😂 stop it OG and move on pls 😂
He's 100 percent wrong but i appreciate the confidence
We doin the BOSTON yall! Lol shit sound like a old dance
6:42 ayo I'm crying 😂 shout-out to the AF1s👟
I stopped this video when he said curry would shi on CB LMAOOO i highly doubt rhatt
I’ve been waiting for this not only would the warriors beat the pistons they’ll sweep them with ease in any era
Facts
They might win but no sweep pistons win atleast 2 games
Sheed wasn’t a go to. Gsw would switch him or Ben onto Steph and it’s over over
Dray chill u from michigan lmaoo talking bout his forces 😂😂😂
2017 warriors struggled to beat James Harden and CP3
Don’t forget Iggy
draymond Green my guy you didnt guard truly great POWER fowards. sheed bustin ya ass. ben wallace sendind Zaza pachulia ass back to the Euro league. Chancey aint no joke dude. they beat Shaq and kobe. They can hang with Steph and Klay
Pistons for all their defensive prowess, couldn’t stop a 22 year old lebron and you think they’re going to handle Steph Klay and Durant?
@ im_organic_mojo.......Are we talking about the same Ben Wallace who scores 4 points a game.. and are we talking about a forward in Sheed who's practically an Anthony Davis clone..lol.. Only bigs Dray would have issues with are Shaq and Jokic that's it..
That Dubs team too stacked and will never be duplicated... ever...Not even close but good try...
Sheed is a great PF now wtf😭 he's guard plenty of players on the lvl of Sheed stop it bro.
Bro I still don’t know how my dog even got a platform to talk like this😂😂😂😂🔥
Somebody gotta speak up. Steph and Klay too nice. 😂😂
Shoot Dray been respected for his IQ it’s just his antics push people away from viewing him. I’m happy he started a podcast
0%? Draymond smokin’ crack.
Lower than that -100%
@@Gojogoat132facts
get rasheed in your podcast
Rasheed Wallace said his next response requires him being on Draymonds show or Draymond on Sheed and Bonzi's show.
I’ll pay to see them go back and forth
No way he can guard Sheed wtf all you'll smoking... He would be in foul trouble by half time.
Pistons offense didn’t run through Sheed and he wasn’t nearly as ball dominant as he should’ve been. Also, I could see Steve Kerr putting KD on Sheed and having Draymond roam off Tayshaun or put Dray on Billups
What about Klay chasing rip threw screens all game he has no legs 🤣🤣 @@TheKidwonda
@@seaniveroni5579 Steph would most likely be guarding rip. Klay would take Chauncey. Steph could easily keep up with Rip however I still think Rip gets his standard 18-20 points for the simple fact that Steph just isn’t a defensive threat/presence whatsoever.
You ain’t stopping sheed lol
@@darrelljones3965 why yall keep saying that like Rasheed was going out there and scoring 25-30. There’s a difference between what Rasheed should do and what he actually would do based on how he played on the court. He avg 12 FGA per game. Don’t have to worry about a player who chooses to stop himself
I believe Draymond on this
Pistons went to game 7 with the Spurs too. The Pistons were legit.
They were but lost...
Pistons would be lucky to get a game or two from this 2017 Warriors team
Shoutout to all the legends with "that one ring"
Well if refs don’t call soft fouls like this era GS will have no chance. Draymond is not stopping Rashhed for sure
Inaccurate.
Ben left after the 2006 season, he was NOT on the roster when during that Lebron game.
Sheed was traded to Atlanta prior to Detroit, not Atlanta after, Rasheed signed with Boston after leaving pistons and played in the 2010 Finals.
Draymond sounds ridiculous. One of the best defensive teams in the entire history of the nba has two players in the starting lineup that are defensive liabilities?
He just broke down why he thought that. You should listen to the video.
you do understand that there are 5 players on a team not 2
Draymond can’t guard Sheed.
Draymond stop the 🧢 KD saved your legacy if it was no KD warriors wouldn't have 4 championships
They lucky in 2015 when kyrie and love were injured
Comparing Tht Bron to The Bron they played is crazy 😂😂We got tht young Bron tht wasn’t getting ridiculed to death. Yall got tht Bron tht gotta think twice about everything he do
"WHO HE GUARDING?!" This is hilarious!
Sheed was a beast. Draymond is definitely not stopping him
Dray said we killed that brand of basketball that basketball gets you fired😂
Draymond talking his ish 🔥
People talking like sheed was a bucket lmao he averaged 13 points a game! Draymond is strong and fast, yeah sheed has a post advantage but I don’t think he cooking like people think.
7:44 🤣🤣
Bro sheeds way better than u stop it lol
‘17 warriors greatest team I ever saw and I’m lebron supporter lol
That Dubs roster was stacked and will never be duplicated...Us die hard Dubs fans that went to all those games enjoyed the hell out of it.. True story..
"And them Air Force 1s don't move" FATALITY
Warriors smacking them lmao y’all tripping like big shoes 👟
He has one real ring
I think draymond is convinced HE could win rings without Steph klay and KD. Bro be humble you were drafted into one of the greatest backcourts of all time
where do you get that from. when he talks about the dubs he says nothing but "we." you reaching
True but I think you forget that Dray played different before KD came and Fray was a better scorer. Draymond would have won finals MVP in 2016 if they had won game 7.
@@maximus3294 you can’t be that braggadocious about 4 rings you won off the back of Steph and KD. When he said the line about criticism of being to small “4 rings later” draymond has ZERO rings if he was drafted to any other team than the warriors. I STAND on that
@@maximus3294 draymond is convinced he’s was anything more than just a role player. If he’s plays for the magic how many rings does draymond have right now
@@user-kb2te3ex6jSteph has zero rings if he gets traded to the bucks or never overcomes the ankle issues. klay has no rings if he's on his own. what are we talking about? it's a team sport. he's allowed to be proud of a team accomplishment that he contributed to significantly.
and yes, he did contribute significantly. don't pretend like he's a bum who rode on Steph's coattails. he is their point forward, enforcer, and best defender. don't forget the 32-15-9 in the '16 finals game 7. if the dubs win that he wins fmvp easily. what would you say then?
Honestly the reason why the Lakers lost that year was because of their internal fueding. Pistons took complete advantage of it. Kobe wanted to prove that it was his team n not Shaqs n Shaq didn't get the feeds he was supposed to...
Not many remember that. Shaq n Kobe could've been undisputed GOAT duo. Shaq wasn't mature enough then. If he had the mindset he has now, them Lakers would've been even more legendary.
I agree. Warriors in 3. Mentally and physically. The Pistons would embarrass themselves with bad execution and foul trouble in game 4 and it’ll be a record blowout lol.
Would love to get a sheed and Dray interview...
Well said Draymond respect
Thank You Draymond For Showing Us That It Doesn't Take Disrespect To Disagree!!!!! I Salute You Fam
Ppl forget the Warriors had Iggy, Livingston, KD, & Green they had some defense as well Thompson was a good defender too
I want to see dray on the Spurs soooo bad. He would do so much good for Wembys game.
GS matches up with Detroit very well. I agree with Wallace that the series would be a tough series. And understand why he feels HIS team would win. But Green is correct GS would destroy Detroit. Now if we are Kerr. Why would we put 6’6 Green on a 6’11 Wallace who’s a known offensive force,mid-range,3’s,turn arounds,fades,dunks,the works. Even as our best defender. If Kerr is smart he places Green his best team defender along with Iggy on Ben Wallace and let them tough it out in the post,battling on defense. Saving his energy for controlling the tempo of the O as the guard-forward. Every other matchup in our estimation goes to GS, including Billups vs Curry which would also be a touch back and fourth matchup offensively. With the edge going to GS because of Curry’s skill and unlimited shooting range. It wouldn’t be easy,but lets get real. Those first 3 GS teams were incredible !! Including the ones with Harrison Barnes,Speights,David Lee,Bogut,Barbosa,Livingston,David West etc.
It won't be a back and forth between billups and curry. 04 billups was a 17ppg player. Curry's dropping 40 on billups
@@gabsanchez agree. when we say back and fourth. It won't be cookies and cream for curry having to guard Billups. Although Billups scored 17ppg. He could go for 20-30 on any given night,depending on his aggressiveness. Plus he put players who weren't as strong and physical in the post and would go to work.
Draymond didn't address the match up with him and Sheed. 😂😂😂 he knows he would be food.
Warriors don’t play one on one defense.
@ericshyaka nobody plays "one on one defense" but you don't have a choice when it comes to ISO plays. Like Draymond said in the video, they would pick on Sheed on defense because Draymond thinks he's too slow footed to keep up.
He literally did address it. He said Sheed wouldn't be the number one option against him, and that sheed still had to play defense, which he didn't want to do.
Does it matter😂😂😂😂 Warriors in 3 1/2
Watch the clip again.. He did ...5:44...... Sheed would have to move his feet....LOL... The only big men that Dray would have issues with would be Shaq and Jokic that's it.. Sheed would be handled....lol..
They push the prime Spurs to 7 games in 2005 a system team like the Warriors. KD Warriors are a cheatcode in nba history
17 Warriors are a tier 1 championship team. In lines with those Bulls, Showtime lakers, 87 celtics, like the truly greatest rosters of all time. So it should go without saying that duh. They better then every lesser tier championship roster. But dude forgot they lost to Toronto. Anything can happen man.
They lost because KD and Klay were injured, and now tell me was the 17 warriors that lost to the raptors? No it was the 19, and even that raptors team would win in 6 against the 04 pistons
What everyone is missing is how the match up would be officiated. The 04’ Pistons were one of the last champions in the more physical era of basketball. If they are matching up and playing under the “old rules” so to speak, then I think the pistons were WAY too physical, both defensively and offensively, for the warriors. On the other hand, if we are playing under the new rules which don’t allow much physicality and gives the offensive player a clear advantage, then obviously the warriors would win that. Aside for that, it’s clear a lot of y’all just became fans of the NBA in like 2016. I respect Steph and the warriors but this new brand of basketball is essentially a 3pt shooting contest. What everyone will come to find is that, taking the defensive, mid range and some of the athleticism out of the game will make a weaker product long term.
If going by the old rules, the physicality goes both ways. Also the physicality is over exaggerated. In either rule set Warriors would smack Pistons due to being too potent on offense AND also being a great defensive team whereas Pistons couldn't even score 100 points
That’s the thing a lot of people miss. The Warriors were adept at scoring at all 3 levels. Klay was the only person who pretty much lived and died by the 3 but Steph got a ton of layups. KD and Livingston lived in the midrange and iggy attacked as well.
The rules wouldn’t even matter in this matchup, because how Detroit played during that championship run defensively, they also never played against a team that was so potent on offense it’s basically a pick your poison. How Detroit played defensively wouldn’t work against the 17’ Warriors due to how much spacing they create especially with Steph, Klay, and KD on the floor at the same time. Detroit played below the 3pt line defensively and you can’t play that way against the Warriors, if they do it’s gonna be open shots all day.
Like Draymond eluded to, the Warriors made their defense style EXTINCT !
@@SickoRed722004 Pistons are allowed to handcheck with zone defense.. 2017 Warriors aren’t allowed to handcheck.. We saw how Curry struggled vs physicality
@@kingdoscuarto even that was starting to fade by then. I just watched the G7 between the Pistons and Spurs in 05 and the refs weren’t allowing none of that
Our DUBS were too Great for the pistons, So Much Firepower and the Ball Moved it wasn’t Much ISO Ball Going on..Steph and Klay Moving then Zaza Setting Screens, Rebounds, Boxing Out Then KD Being a Matchup Nightmare. Iguodala and Livingston off The Bench. Sheesh DUBS in 5
KD is the difference maker. 04' Pistons is a good matchup vs any of the other GS Champs.
That Pistons team was the last team to win it all without a superstar. That was a tough group!
Big brother sheed said he would go crazy on GS 😅 but it would be rip on both ends
I would have loved to see Dre try and cheap shot Ben in his prime 😂
lmao "you getting fired, you getting fired" haha
NGL, you didn't need to give Rasheed more than a tweet. We all know you woulda swept them.
There was one single fact Draymond stated that ends the convo. Those Pistons almost never finished a game 80+ pts. You aint beating any championship warriors team scoring less than 80 Im sorry.
😂😂 Gotta love Dray it’s levels to the table 💪🏾
We didn't do again because we got rid of most of our bench which I didn't get if its not broke don't fix it
The real question is whose rules are they playing with. If it was todays rules I'm going with the dubs. If it's the old rules I'm going with the Pistons. The Warriors have not played against that type of defense just as the five never played against that type of offense
Pistons would kill ya’ll. Not even a question.
😂😂😂😂🧢
Absolutely not
@@dashawnaland nice rebuttel
Must a Old Head 😂
@@zodiacentertainment4677 i might be lol. Someone should get ai to make the video. Lol. Prompt it with actual game plans. And what each team would try and do. And let it rip. It be one hell of a watch
Dray you sound silly. When LeBron beat them, Ben Wallace was gone BEFORE LeBron ever beat them. Get your facts straight.
You’re right BUTTTT Bron took them to 7 in 2006 when Ben was on the team. He avg 26, 8 and 6
The 2006 Pistons were not as good as the 2004 Pistons. Just compare the benches.
@@conchobar From a record standpoint that was technically their best team as they won 64 games. Also, McDyess was on those teams after 04 and he to me was their best bench player during that whole run from 2004-2008 with no disrespect to Lindsey Hunter or Mehmet Okur. The key difference was the coaching change. Flip Saunders is just simply not on Larry Brown’s level.
@@TheKidwondaBron shot 44%😂 in 2006 vs the Pistons. In 2004 lebron shot 28% vs those Pistons😂
@@kingdoscuarto Bron never played the pistons in the 2004 playoffs he was a rookie
Draymond u my guy. But Rasheed Wallace woulda gave u the business. U from Michigan u know.
It’s not close. The Pistons core played together 4 years. Lost to Spurs. Lost to Heat. Without Ben, lost to Bron. They were good, not great.
They were lucky to win one. Kobe had an all-time god awful series. Injuries were hindering the old guys. Perfect storm. Still deserved they handled business, but I would take the Lakers 9/10 times.
No one is stopping Steph or KD. Klay is the 3 point version of Rip.
Spacing and 3 ball destroyed the 2 big line-ups. The NBA didn’t become what it is by chance. The Warriors changed how to win. Offenses are near unguardable these days.
Sheed and Draymond both make credible points...You can't compare eras, it's always gonna be holes in both arguments. What you CAN judge is what a team did during it's era. The Warriors were more successful during their era.
Yes because they recruited a prime KD. Come on man 😂
My point still stands, you can't compare eras realistically. What happened is what happened for whatever reason. I agree with what you're saying, but it doesn't negate my point.
Draymond is one of one
Yeah Draymond you are the best ever ...
I love the response!
Don't forget Iverson being on the Pistons
someone gotta put the meet the grahams beat over this
Warriors win gentlemen sweep but Draymond is wrong about Sheed and RIP.
Sheed would be fine by putting hyperdunks on. Both him and Ben were incredibly mobile for bigs. They didn't get put in situations to have to guard on the perimeter but when they did they were elite at it. They both were incredibly agile and could guard. Ask Tracy McGrady.
RIP was a fiesty animal with uncut nails that would claw and scrap on defense. Ask D.Wade.
Draymond and the warriors perfected the new style but they didn't eliminate the 04 pistons style. The 05 rule changes did.
Rasheed was one of the best post defenders of all time (one v one not team) and was incredible help side. He would need to change his shoes and get serious tho.
Warriors win gentlemen sweep because Steph and Durant are two of the best (not greatest) 10 players of all time.
We the same age dray I was happy to see D town win 🏆 that
That’s a great matchup all defense vs all offenses that series going to 7 idc what nobody say
one ring and 4 ring diff level is what drat is saying. then 4 ring and 6 ring( 2 three peats) is diff level. To use his word cant compare 4 ring to the best team-ever
Remember this is the same fool who went to KD to join.... Ben Wallace would absolutely murder DG!
These young dudes have no idea what they're talking about. If the Pistons had a shred of light on defense, they are definitely making it a 7 game series.
If that '04 team had a regular season to get acclimated, they would easily have 3 dudes on that team with the ability to inprove and shoot over 35% from three. The Warriors defensively in the 04 era would not be able to hang with the violence on defense that those teams would have.
Steph is the best player in the series, but it would go 7 to the Pistons.
It's sad this guy plays in the NBA, from Detroit and don't know any d**n thing about how the Pistons played smh.. For one.. The era (early 2000s) at that time and now, is drastically different, defense at that time, were more aggressive still, than how it is now. Watered down a** defense these teams play, it's still a few that still has that defensive style from back then in them (Draymond has it by the way). If him and his 17 Warriors, were to play the 04 Pistons. Pistons are going to make the Warriors, play how they've never been played before. Pistons are goin to make them work hard like they've never been before. Pistons are going to run and gun that full court defense that they used to run under Larry Brown. Green talkin bout "Who Rip going to guard" dude.. You must've forgot that Rip is a good on ball defender, then he talkin bout "He don't like to check". Man STOP the cap. Rip stayed glued on his man and hand swiping his man, he averaged almost a good 2 steals a game for a short period in his career. He got at least 1 steal for majority of his career. Then he proceeds to say, "Who is Sheed guarding". Sheed was actually underrated as a defender, plus he played defense pretty smart. Green must've forgot how great Tayshaun could move his feet all over the floor, I definitely got him guarding KD "FAIR". He must've forgot how quick Tayshaun moves defensively all over the floor.. FLASH BACK, is the Tayshaun chase down block, not ticking in that brain... He also get on Chauncey not being able to guard or hold Steph.. Uuuh, you tell me is there still a PG in the league, that likes to post up anywhere on the floor. Whether if it was down in the paint or close to the perimeter. I suggest he (Green) go back and watch how a barely past their prime player (Chauncey), was busting a young Steph Curry a** in the early 2010s, who was good in his early career. In the early 2010s. So just imagine both of them in their primes, if Curry couldn't stop a past their prime player. You would expect Curry to be better, since he was younger at the time. Billups as well, going to be glued all over Curry, wherever he is going, Billups was a good defender. So Warriors best bet, is that they better bring 100s of screens (Draymond Green) to "free up as much time" as he needs. See Curry's strength is the dependence of needing screens from his teammates. Yea he can score in iso, but there were several times. He choked, when the defender gets to much to him. As for Klay.. You say Rip was what Klay is now. But really it's the other way around, Klay plays exactly how Rip played im his era. Him (Klay) and the rest of the Warriors, play like, how the 2000s Pistons used to play. Only difference is, one team uses high screen and rolls and uses more screens. And the other (Pistons) uses low screens and not so many screens. I'll tell you what. They say the 2000s Pistons whole format, were like the late 90s and early 2000s Spurs format and the Spurs were dominant and a Dynasty under Pop. So what makes, him think that they would beat the Pistons.. Just cause you got 5 rings lmao. If Pistons were to play in this era, they could win well over 4 championships.. Green was a non factor for majority of the championships Warriors won lol. The best Draymond has played in any of the Finals he's played, was the 16 Finals. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for 15 (his first).. But he was DEFINITELY non existence. Throughout all of the 2000s Pistons success. They all played highly efficient and better than Green. Even the Pistons bench played better. And that's facts. He keeps talkin bout their one ship, but based off how he expressed about the Pistons. I'm just going to say that, he didn't know that the Pistons ran it back, after winning their 1st ship. They went back to the Finals in 05. Yea they didn't win, but it's obvious that Green didn't know smh. And he from Detroit to, wow smh.
Draymond and Sheed both getting ejected in that series lol