Chauncey Billups' SAVAGE Take On '04 Pistons vs Warriors Debate!

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  • Chauncey Billups came on to Sheed and Tyler to talk about his current role in the NBA as the Trail Blazers head coach. He also weighs in on Draymond Green vs Rasheed Wallace beef over who would win between the 2004 Pistons and 2015/2017 Warriors.
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  • @alexanderadonyae7937
    @alexanderadonyae7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Bonzi always hating on the Pistons lol he still mad they traded his ass😂

  • @JorgeSanchez-xx3fx
    @JorgeSanchez-xx3fx หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Ben Wallace would have stopped all of Draymond's antics.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dray would be ejected every game within 5 minutes because of actual physicality.

    • @brianschwarer6948
      @brianschwarer6948 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Golden state esposws him as a horrific ft shooter. He wouldn’t be useful. He’s be pulled out of the paint on defense and a liability on offense.

    • @wrathman-101
      @wrathman-101 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If Ben wasn't like his big brother he would push Dre's soul out just like Ron's.

    • @detroitdizthepoet313
      @detroitdizthepoet313 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

    • @ace313mh
      @ace313mh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@brianschwarer6948 what you fail to realize is the Pistons could adapt to any situation my guy. And you act like Draymond was A knock down shooter 🤣. Them boyz would've been toast my guy

  • @yaxing007
    @yaxing007 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Rasheed is so underrated, no one on that team can guard him

    • @Infinitefuture6
      @Infinitefuture6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No one on that team can guard Durant or curry or klay

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Infinitefuture6and curry would get eaten up by Chauncey, big time. Prince stopped Kobe, I'm sure he'd do alright against KD. Play ain't doing squat offensively after having to chase rip through a million screens every game. Rasheed is the x factor because he would eat draymond up, big time

    • @omare6452
      @omare6452 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joshlewis575Chauncey ain’t doing shit with Steph. Tayshaun would get 30 on his head. Too small for KD. Klay would win the matchup vs Rip. Sheed would win the Draymond matchup but it wouldn’t be enough. Ben Wallace is the X Factor here

    • @kaygriffin984
      @kaygriffin984 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@omare6452that's why he said he wouldn't have fun guarding steph coach would've put rip on him and Chauncey would guard klay Rasheed can guard kd and he can defend guards like he said they can switch and before you comment watch they're games

    • @omare6452
      @omare6452 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kaygriffin984 I watched them play live bruh. Chauncey is giving up 6 inches of height to Klay. & KD would give Rasheed 40 easily. I sat lower level at games in the early 2000s. Not floor seats but great seats. They couldn’t beat 2017 Warriors in a series but wouldn’t get swept

  • @jamessandman3730
    @jamessandman3730 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    04 pistons would’ve been an even bigger dynasty if they wouldn’t have messed up with that number two draft pick

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Facts

    • @machobandzsavage281
      @machobandzsavage281 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      They weren't a dynasty!!! They won 1 ring!!! Stop it buddy!!! LeBron ended them boys reign 😂😂😂

    • @poloregal
      @poloregal หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They would have never gotten Sheed if they did that

    • @miorionomichi
      @miorionomichi หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@machobandzsavage281They were there they went to 2 Finals and a lot of conference finals

    • @chadbutler8634
      @chadbutler8634 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Melo wouldn’t be who we know him as back then, so 👎🏾

  • @filipradevic5747
    @filipradevic5747 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    These guys beat Lakers with Kobe and Shaq... Never forget that.

    • @brianerisca6822
      @brianerisca6822 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      And lost the spurs .. what's your point ?

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@brianerisca6822 rules changed, and team changed, and sheed left Horry wide open.

    • @jeremyjohnson4280
      @jeremyjohnson4280 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And Gary Payton and Karl Malone

    • @TheTaekwon3
      @TheTaekwon3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂 The old Lakers team that tried to build a super team. Remember kobe and Shaq started it

    • @therealmvp232
      @therealmvp232 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@brianerisca6822spurs were great. Spurs would of waxed them warriors to. Soft era today

  • @truelivin7110
    @truelivin7110 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Plus They forgot about Prince

    • @rayguard9470
      @rayguard9470 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you!

    • @Red-ul9uk
      @Red-ul9uk หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Thank you for this comment, dude could guard 1-3 back then so 1-4 or 1-5 on some teams or line ups today.

    • @prestonstrong7040
      @prestonstrong7040 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Red-ul9ukand scored 9 points a game

    • @sugarbear1225
      @sugarbear1225 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For good reason

    • @Red-ul9uk
      @Red-ul9uk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@prestonstrong7040 Back on a team that used to constantly keep people under 85 points constantly. Multiple under 75 points games. People also forget his play style translates better to today than some others because of how mobile and inversely was on defense as well as offense. They just shot less.

  • @truthiscensored
    @truthiscensored หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I think Bonzi just be saying stuff to troll Sheed

    • @grinchoi1
      @grinchoi1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      lol 100%

    • @ej2886
      @ej2886 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every group got that one ass hole, aka that one Skip Bayless, aka that one Rashad Mccants

    • @csnide6702
      @csnide6702 หลายเดือนก่อน

      consider the source..... what was Wells' career "highlight"...?

  • @shaamsallah1077
    @shaamsallah1077 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Big Shot Chauncey Finals MVP!!!!!

  • @marcomancilla6457
    @marcomancilla6457 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Does everyone forget they had Okur off the bench?

    • @Travdust
      @Travdust หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      And 6th man of the year Corless Williamson. And two of the best on ball defenders in Mike James/Lindsey Hunter. And a steady Elden Campbell who post and shoot that mid range. Great bench.

    • @RonnySwank
      @RonnySwank หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That pistons team was deep af but warriors had an amazing bench too

    • @TheTaekwon3
      @TheTaekwon3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Travdustneither can put up with them screens

    • @antoineb9371
      @antoineb9371 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah people forget that Okur started for that team half of the year before the Rasheed Wallace trade.

    • @jaybrick8973
      @jaybrick8973 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Okur was a beast he was a all star with utah when he left Detroit

  • @JCrossover123
    @JCrossover123 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    This podcast should be just as big as Gil’s Arena

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Hell naw it’s boring af

    • @moldyapple1789
      @moldyapple1789 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      far superior

    • @Kelthagreat97
      @Kelthagreat97 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Atribecalledsuccessbut you here watching this boring shit pal..

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Kelthagreat97 I stopped half way ma’am

    • @marcel3942
      @marcel3942 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People like foolishness

  • @tarheelsfan8816
    @tarheelsfan8816 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I gotta say I just love this podcast... as a lifetime fan of the nba early ninties to present I can honestly say there's nothing better than hearing stories from actual ex nba guys.. it's so much more authentic than the commentary from newscasters... much love to you guys and what you're doing with this

  • @romyclips6479
    @romyclips6479 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What is Chauncey talking about letting Sheed shoot 10+ threes a game. The man was a career 32% shooter from deep. You'd be handing the Warriors the game. 🤣

  • @olliereyes8008
    @olliereyes8008 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wells bringing up him beating billups when Billups wasnt even starting had me rolling

  • @virgilconner7884
    @virgilconner7884 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Chauncey know damn well ain’t no coach giving him the green light for no 15 3pt attempts 😂😂😂

    • @tomanguyen
      @tomanguyen หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dude thinks he’s curry

    • @lomar0058
      @lomar0058 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The capping is nasty in this clip

    • @mareq323
      @mareq323 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You guys must not know Chauncey 🤣🤣🤣. He was was clutch..steph is not and has never been. Pistons would definitely beat that Warriors team

    • @virgilconner7884
      @virgilconner7884 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mareq323 Steph not clutch? Man stop it. COUNTLESS games where he’s made big shots. Chauncey slow ass wouldn’t be able to keep up wit Steph wtf😂😂😂 and u must not no Chauncey cuz when in the fucc was he ever a major threat from deep🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @djalcide1
      @djalcide1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He’s talking TODAY’S NBA he absolutely would’ve had the green light.

  • @jalenharris9421
    @jalenharris9421 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s amazing I lived to see both of these teams play at their prime. And being from Michigan I’m biased af, but I’m tryna tell yall them 04 boys was a different breed.

  • @Flexican510
    @Flexican510 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Warriors Steph and Klay plus with Durant 7 FT raining shots from anywhere, Great defense by Dray, 6’6 Iggy high IQ , 6’7 PG Livingston Hitting Middies, 6’11 270 IBS Physical Zaza with 7FT Athletic Mcgee. Dubs in 5

    • @JoeScott22
      @JoeScott22 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dont forget Livingston off the bench

    • @Flexican510
      @Flexican510 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeScott22 I know I said “Livingston hitting those middies”

    • @David-qp4jq
      @David-qp4jq หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not only Shaun Livingston Leandro Barbosa don't forget Andrew Bogut and David West

    • @Flexican510
      @Flexican510 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@David-qp4jq Definitely the early Dubs teams had Size

    • @Flexican510
      @Flexican510 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoeScott22 I said Livingston hitting Middies

  • @TrinidadJamesWoods
    @TrinidadJamesWoods หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Tayshawn Prince would've been able to put some effective defensive pressure on KD. Prince was a defensive cyborg with those long arms, the quickness, and the height.

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Facts!! Ppl sleep on Tayshaun Prince. He started the chase down block shot back in the 2000's..he shut down prime tmac in the playoffs! His length definitely would of bothered Kevin Durant

    • @Steve_R418
      @Steve_R418 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I mean Tayshaun played against KD. KD averaged 26 ppg

    • @factthatdude4059
      @factthatdude4059 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Steve_R418right!

    • @donaldacree2271
      @donaldacree2271 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      KD is 6’11…stop it

  • @stevechen1991
    @stevechen1991 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Its crazy for players from 2004 to say they have better skillset than players in 2024. No one on that Pistons team is stopping KD, mans dropping 40pts easyyy, and i watched Pistons beat Lakers in 2004. 2017-2019 warriors is a different type of animal!

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah saying their more skilled was a wild statement and just proves these guys are extremely biased and their opinion shouldn’t be taken as fact

    • @PaperworksEntertainmentINC
      @PaperworksEntertainmentINC หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smh it’s sickening. They only won one damn ring talking like this smh

  • @Field_Marshall
    @Field_Marshall หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    2004 Detroit Pistons would have a difficult time going up against back 2 back champions the original Detroit Pistons the Bad Boys

    • @smokescreenOG
      @smokescreenOG หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      facts as well, the bad boys were deeper than even the 04 pistons

    • @paulvicentevcurimao5596
      @paulvicentevcurimao5596 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nope! 04 pistons is far better than the bad boy pistons. It's a game between real defensive players against slow bully kids. 04 pistons anytime!

    • @carlossosa1359
      @carlossosa1359 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulvicentevcurimao5596 naw zeke takes it personal

    • @patbateman6157
      @patbateman6157 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      bro any team after like 2000 would have a difficult time going up against any team from the 90s or before. Teams played D back then, and they actually could score. any team nowadays would be waxed by teams back then. Pistons, spurs, and pacers in the mid 2000s were only teams that resembled old school

    • @chadinfinitum1411
      @chadinfinitum1411 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@patbateman6157Well said.

  • @user-ri5jq5jh9s
    @user-ri5jq5jh9s หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Shout out to Tyler but , why is it the sheer and Tyler show? It should be sheed and bonzi WITH Tyler

    • @SheedandTyler
      @SheedandTyler  หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      unfortunately once the NCAA season picks up we won't have Bonzi on as much since he's on the Georgia Tech staff

    • @MrBmick79
      @MrBmick79 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SheedandTyler he working wit Mighty Mouse?????

  • @Steve_R418
    @Steve_R418 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    At least Chauncey in being reasonable. The 2017 Warriors just have too many weapons. It doesn't matter how great your defense is.

    • @jtremaine23
      @jtremaine23 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The 2018 Warriors had the same team but the Rockets took them to 7 games with CP3 leading and very good defense even though their main player (Harden) played like hot garbage. Once CP3 got hurt, it was over and they couldn't buy just 1 3pt-er in game 7. Also, I think the Spurs were beating the 2017 Warriors by 20+ in the 1st game until Kawhi got hurt. They were not un-beatable.

    • @daniell5740
      @daniell5740 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sunday with kd didn't do sht lmaooo

    • @Steve_R418
      @Steve_R418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jtremaine23 That Rockets team would have beaten the Pistons too

    • @ArthPedro
      @ArthPedro หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jtremaine23 James Harden

    • @jtremaine23
      @jtremaine23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Steve_R418Not with Harden leading and the team shooting 0-27 from 3 lol

  • @mattsell2361
    @mattsell2361 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If it’s played in the old rules. The warriors can get away with even more harder and more moving screens and get more open 3s but people never talk about that

  • @eddielacrosse2
    @eddielacrosse2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I loved this convo !

  • @user-fm9vt3vo9n
    @user-fm9vt3vo9n หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    04 Pistons would bring it any era

  • @eddiebeestraw9993
    @eddiebeestraw9993 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bonzi is an elite level troll😂😂😂

  • @javierlara6350
    @javierlara6350 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's the deal, when you play defense the way they played defense, your legs start to give out. So all them shots start to be just that much, and it's a different game. Those low scoring games were a joy to watch.

  • @CanaanlandMoorsMHTSMSTAMDNM
    @CanaanlandMoorsMHTSMSTAMDNM หลายเดือนก่อน

    You Brothers have some of the greatest ball content. thankh you for all yall did and do!!!

  • @felipemendez8448
    @felipemendez8448 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    2015 and 2022 can be a debate but 2016-2019 Warriors will destroy 04 Pistons. It doesn't matter what rules.

    • @NeighborTom
      @NeighborTom หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You must be 20.

    • @felipemendez8448
      @felipemendez8448 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NeighborTom been watchin nba since 1995

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@NeighborTomBot

    • @NeighborTom
      @NeighborTom หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrSilus2000 butt!

    • @Pswayze23
      @Pswayze23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only time warriors really looked beatable were against tough defense like 18 rockets before cp3 got hurt, and 2016 Cavaliers. This pistons team was the toughest defensive team I've ever seen. It would be a great series and Billups would have to be big against curry on offense. Warriors also wouldn't be able to abuse the death lineup because all 5 pistons could guard the perimeter.

  • @CreativeSensation
    @CreativeSensation หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That Detroit team that won win 04’ was legendary don’t get me wrong, but if they were so great why didn’t they win multiple titles? We’re talking about the Warriors with KD vs that pistons team. Warriors are arguably considered the greatest team of all time. So if those Pistons players say they could best that warriors team doesn’t that make them the greatest team of all time? Not even close. You can’t compare two teams when one team hasn’t even won multiple titles. As far as IQ? Steph Dray KD Dwest and Andre, Sdot? Yeah I’ll take the warriors.

    • @ek1743
      @ek1743 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good point

    • @ericpollitt7910
      @ericpollitt7910 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Big Ben left after 05. In the finals against the Spurs they had one inbounds play away from a Chip and the format was 2-3-2 which is a huge advantage for SA. If they extended Ben they could have won another.

  • @donaldacree2271
    @donaldacree2271 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Everyone talking ish about the warriors until them 3s start raining down

    • @edwardcoward1062
      @edwardcoward1062 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts😂

    • @nocturne87
      @nocturne87 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      can't rain down threes when you're getting locked up by real defense.

    • @edwardcoward1062
      @edwardcoward1062 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @nocturne87 oh, please. Indiana did and the warriors have 3 of the best shooters on 1 team. Rip wasnt a great defender. Billups can't guard curry. Prince can't do anything with kd. 😆
      How many more dpoy steph gotta light up before you guys stop diminishing him 😆

  • @BenGettinit204
    @BenGettinit204 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So basically C. B just said if we can't foul them we probably couldn't beat them. After he said that all I hear is pride. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @shawnmarques7117
    @shawnmarques7117 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The 04 pistons lost to many role players after the 04 season.

    • @smokescreenOG
      @smokescreenOG หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      facts, plus Larry Brown was gone after 05, and they changed rules again in 05 to stop this brand of basketball further.

    • @alexanderadonyae7937
      @alexanderadonyae7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Facts ​@@smokescreenOG

  • @musatheleader
    @musatheleader หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    This aint triangle, this is GSW motion offense with the 3 of the best shooters to touch a basketball. 😂 Yall tripping.

    • @allenparedes6132
      @allenparedes6132 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You’re a kid. You don’t know real basketball

    • @elliotmyers625
      @elliotmyers625 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@allenparedes6132 "get off my lawn!"

    • @RudyDicka
      @RudyDicka หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's telling the truth, Curry, Thompson, Green, Livingston, Basbosa, Bogut, Barnes, Igy is too much for Pistons. I love Pistons but they will not, there's a reason why Curry's Warriors has more title.

    • @NoMask23
      @NoMask23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3 of the best shooter ? Kd not no top 3 shooter all time u just talking 🤡

    • @musatheleader
      @musatheleader หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @NoMask23 I said "3 of the best shooters" , not "the 3 best shooters" reading, comprehend. 🤡

  • @toorich96
    @toorich96 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when I was 8years old, and my 2nd grade teacher would come in and write on the board, each of the pistons name who did the best every game that year in the finals…. Then I remember watching the parade😭😭🫶. It’s crazy cus I was born in Nashville but my mom side of the family way from Detroit and that’s where we lived that year. Pistons needa come back to the light

  • @24kminds
    @24kminds หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sheed "we shut you down"

  • @remnant8898
    @remnant8898 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Yall smoking if you think that Pistons team is beating the 17 Warriors. Not only do they have a superior offense, but they were also an elite defense. Steph is cooking every single person they put to guard him, Klay is outshooting Rip, KD is destroying Prince, and the bench is taking over. What yall scored in a game, GS is scoring by halftime. Yall gas that one chip up like the 08 Boston Celtics team. If they were so dominant, yall should have won more.

    • @ChuckaVsTheWorld
      @ChuckaVsTheWorld หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      & Sheed keep saying they was small
      If I'm not mistaken Shaun Livingston
      Iggy
      Javale & David West were all on that team
      Steph prime Klay
      KD
      Detroit getting smacked on

    • @remnant8898
      @remnant8898 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChuckaVsTheWorld They had more taller players than the Pistons did.
      Steph and Chauncy are the same height
      Klay is taller than Rip
      KD is taller than Prince
      Sheed is taller than Dray
      Zaza/McGhee are taller than Ben
      Iggy is 6'6 and Livingston is 6'7. The Pistons are getting dog walked.

    • @ChuckaVsTheWorld
      @ChuckaVsTheWorld หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@remnant8898 badly lmfao

    • @jaybrick8973
      @jaybrick8973 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sound crazy Detroit defense was the best all time they not shooting on them like you think 😂

    • @ChuckaVsTheWorld
      @ChuckaVsTheWorld หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaybrick8973 u smoking that same bullshit sheed on...
      If they was so elite as u claim y they only got that 1 title? Greatest all time u must b talmbout the bad boys pistons lmfao... Gsw in 5 foh

  • @csnide6702
    @csnide6702 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a fan that saw that Piston team - THAT was an extremely balanced and talented team !
    With front line of Sheed , Ben Wallace and Taeshaun Prince - with Chauncey and Rip Hamilton at guards.... that's a tough match up for anybody.

  • @templetonbob
    @templetonbob 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The KD Warriors was the greatest team in NBA history. It was a cheat code with no answer.

  • @edwardcoward1062
    @edwardcoward1062 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The pistons saying they scored so few points bc it's how the league was isnt accurate. They were 18th in the league in offense. They only had one guy who shot 50% or better, corliss. The warriors as a team shot 50%. There's no planet, solar system, universe, multiverse, alternate reality in which the pistons come close to winning.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless they're playing with the 04 rules. Then in this very universe they kill em. Draymond would go into full on meltdown with big Ben getting physical with him. I can see the constant crying on every possession now

    • @edwardcoward1062
      @edwardcoward1062 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @joshlewis575 they also played when the rules changed the following year and shot about the same low percentage as a team. The 04 rules doesn't stop the blowout that's going to occur. It takes the game from being 110-80 to 104 to 74. The pistons couldn't score lol

    • @Kirbystare1992
      @Kirbystare1992 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@edwardcoward1062yea the more I thought about it even the 15 warriors I got them winning in 6 maybe 5. The reason curry struggled in 16 is because of kyrie. You can’t guard kyrie and go get 30 on the other end that’s too hard. Billups and Hamilton aren’t volume scorers or shooters so curry won’t have to play defense like that. And I don’t anticipate Detroit posting up Billups 10 to 20 times a game tryna get curry in foul trouble. Stuck with. Also putting prince on him won’t because curry can just guard him offense and not guard him.

  • @peterGnash
    @peterGnash 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice talk. The real question who was a better defensive team, them or the '19 Raptors

  • @morriskode
    @morriskode หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Pistons had Larry Brown too. That matters

    • @user-be7tc2bd6e
      @user-be7tc2bd6e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Larry Brown was a-GREAT-coach too,LOVED that guy.

    • @mercisaint2506
      @mercisaint2506 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Warriors got Kerr df

    • @davidporter671
      @davidporter671 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mercisaint2506 lol Kerr is so overrated.

    • @mercisaint2506
      @mercisaint2506 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidporter671
      Lol how??? Actually give a good reason besides what you have seen in the internet

    • @chadinfinitum1411
      @chadinfinitum1411 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mercisaint2506Because Kerr has a loaded team. Larry Brown took the Sixers and Pistons with guys nobody paid attention to besides Iverson.

  • @Harerazer
    @Harerazer หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    What nobody talks about is that while the older teams couldn't have been as physical now, the stepback woulda been travelling 7 days a week back then. Today's players woulda been crying like babies in the 80's and 90's.

    • @TheTaekwon3
      @TheTaekwon3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You do understand players adapt plus these teams today are fast. Old heads would be mad because they can't foul the entire time.

    • @jtremaine23
      @jtremaine23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheTaekwon3 If you noticed in these past playoffs, more defense was played and allowed so teams were hitting around 90 points sometimes (which is rare in this era). I hadn't seen so many under 100 point scores in a while. I kept telling people, players don't look as good when you let the other team be more physical.

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A step back move is not a travel just like a euro step isn’t a travel 😂 older player just wasn’t creative , iverson did one crossover and everybody lost their mjnds 😂

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@curtiszyrthe globetrotters have been doing kyries "handles" for 70 years now. How creative these new guys are😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Harerazer
      @Harerazer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@curtiszyr I get what you're saying but you're a bit off. A stepback is not a travel NOW. You have to know basketball to understand, so let me help you. You are given two steps after you pick up your dribble because the intent of the rule was to compensate for forward motion, not to just move two steps in any direction. The league adapted the new, looser definition because it is more exciting. The same thing applies in a foul going from a foul to a flagrant to a flagrant 1/2/3, etc. Back when it started players were playing bleeding and it was just a foul...sometimes.
      Best to learn the history of a subject before you speak on it, no disrespect intended.

  • @killaseason82
    @killaseason82 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The 04 pistons been living off that bs title for years smh they didn't beat the lakers the lakers beat themselves they had no team chemistry shaq n kobe was tryin to kill each other etc hints why they never won shit else

    • @JJWAD
      @JJWAD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A title isn’t bs.

    • @killaseason82
      @killaseason82 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @derellbillings3960 and lost to a team that wasn't half as good as that lakers team

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@killaseason82 those spurs teams with Parker ginobili and Timmy aren't just some random scrub team. Isn't that the argument as to why LeBron got waxed by the same core ? And they had that chip too if sheed here doesn't leave Robert fucking Horry wide open.

    • @killaseason82
      @killaseason82 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshlewis575 shaq n kobe n the spurs team won multiple. How many did that fluke pistons team win? I'll wait

    • @brianhaywood5521
      @brianhaywood5521 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Teams don't "beat themselves" in a 4-1 series. You were a bs foul for a 3 pt play on shaq from getting swept. And most of those games were blowouts. Foh.

  • @Saucelight88
    @Saucelight88 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Dude was on Brons nuts whole conversation lol

    • @tonosi0290
      @tonosi0290 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly!

  • @sakazakijin
    @sakazakijin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Y'all couldn't score"
    Neither could our opponents

    • @lomar0058
      @lomar0058 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Durant enters the chat

  • @loud_one
    @loud_one หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to the finals games in Auburn. Hills, in 04 that team was different if you've seen in person, how they shut the lakers down that shit was crazy the 02 To 07 Pistons are what made me fall in love with basketball I was always a sports fan, but of the detroit lions, detroit red wings But growing up in detroit during that time period was crazy

  • @CaptainKneegrowMan
    @CaptainKneegrowMan หลายเดือนก่อน

    What no one talks about with that 04 team, was just how deep they were. Deepest bench in the league with a bench unit that could match up with most squads starting 5

  • @byronmims4788
    @byronmims4788 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm just glad that Rasheed spoke his peace on David Stern. What 'Sheed said confirmed what my eyes saw. That Pistons squad should've gone back2back, but the fix was in. Saddle 'Sheed with 3 or 4 fouls before the half is how it was arranged in the 4 losses. There are those of us who LIVE hoops who saw it quite clearly. The fix was in when - in the Finals intro - they brought up the Bad Boys label and further SMEARED the team with the Malice in the Palace incident. When 'Sheed stated that Stern had the personal phone numbers of the refs, that sealed it for me. The NBA, first and foremost, is a business, and they planned to market the league to the world. That intro emphasized just HOW international that Spirs team really was, too. So, yeah, the fix was in.

  • @Tondars
    @Tondars หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sad ending on this one talking about Big Ben leaving for Chicago. Let's take a moment of silence for the dynasty they would have had if only they drafted Mello instead of Darko.

    • @therealmvp232
      @therealmvp232 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah. If they would have drafted melo, the defense would have went south. Plus they never would of traded for sheed who a better player

  • @kburrell81
    @kburrell81 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    People they beat Kobe and Shaq in their prime convincingly

    • @TheTaekwon3
      @TheTaekwon3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No one else on that team was good. They were old.

    • @wq113ca
      @wq113ca หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spurs beat Kobe and Shaq twice

    • @Evroyal
      @Evroyal หลายเดือนก่อน

      And got waxed by the spurs

    • @marekboldin4386
      @marekboldin4386 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Evroyalfound yo ass again like I said that spurs team would beat warriors as well ur a fucking child u don’t know ball

    • @filipecosta3390
      @filipecosta3390 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Colorado + Shaq vs Kobe beef + Karl Malone’s injury = Detroit Championship

  • @Iamrich95_
    @Iamrich95_ หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mane the warriors are cooking the pistons even without kd

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Are they though? Curry, klay, iggy, dray, and bogut vs Chauncey, rip, prince, sheed and Ben. I'm taking that 04 pistons line up to win that. Especially if they're playing by the 04 defensive rules

    • @BigMac-1816
      @BigMac-1816 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      KD their only hope

  • @tonosi0290
    @tonosi0290 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Who the hell is that in between Sheed and Bonzi?

  • @mikehowza
    @mikehowza 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Big Shot made the biggest point. They were different without Big Ben. They no longer were the best 5 alive. With Ben Wallace and the addition of Carmelo that group's story is bigger in history.

  • @AllusAmericanosNeed2wakeUP
    @AllusAmericanosNeed2wakeUP หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These guys Trippen 😂😂

  • @GenoG6
    @GenoG6 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That 04 Pistons team had the Best starting 5 in NBA History.

  • @MrBruceleroy25
    @MrBruceleroy25 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    best defensive team in NBA history

  • @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
    @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nobody will fking go toe to toe with 04 Ben Wallace nuff said.

  • @Back1time
    @Back1time หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They talking like they won more then ONE chip 😂😂😂

  • @dudeabides23
    @dudeabides23 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bonzi looks like Cederic

  • @tomanguyen
    @tomanguyen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2017 warriors never losing… let’s be real please

  • @darnellsamuel8009
    @darnellsamuel8009 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can see this happening ❤

  • @paul-pq4xp
    @paul-pq4xp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info

  • @jonathanchan1365
    @jonathanchan1365 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they should introduce recent old championship teams vs new championship teams in the all star game:
    like kd warriors, steph, klay, kd, dray, a center from the warriors versing the celtics or
    nuggets vs the twolves
    the old lakers with caruso, kcp, kuzma, bron, ad, dwight, was mcgee there? that will be kinda cool
    like a 2 quarter game

  • @martinevans6385
    @martinevans6385 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very ✊🏾 Good Show This Day 🎉Cheers! One 👏🏾 Love

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some of these old school black players look at Steph and Clay and immediately think "soft....i can't lose to someone soft impossible".

  • @rudygee9171
    @rudygee9171 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why I’m upset Sheed isn’t in 2K

    • @Darcel.Brown.
      @Darcel.Brown. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And Tayshaun

  • @cubbdacrossfacecrippler
    @cubbdacrossfacecrippler หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Everybody thinks they could've beat the Warriors.

  • @razielcisneros8091
    @razielcisneros8091 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sheed would average a healthy 40 on Draymond with today's rules

    • @jasonnelson6624
      @jasonnelson6624 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Absolutely not both would be watching from the locker room. Two guys know most for technical fouls and ejections. Not to mention sheed scored over 39 one time in his whole career that being a whole 42. 😂 he could barely get 35. No way in hell they beat kd's warriors even Chauncey knows that.

  • @michaelmamitesarmecin5137
    @michaelmamitesarmecin5137 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pistons team was so big and tough. They had Okur, Corliss, Ben, Sheed, Prince. I think they even had Campbell at one point.

  • @kevinsebby
    @kevinsebby หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 04 Pistons are athletic to switch

  • @warrencook8738
    @warrencook8738 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The Pistons won one ring and came up short everytime after that...But they talk like they were a dynasty 😂

    • @liquidmetalslime9
      @liquidmetalslime9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      A blown defensive rotation from winning back to back, and 6 straight eastern conference finals.

    • @warrencook8738
      @warrencook8738 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      6 straight and one ring to show for it..Lesser talented teams beat the Pistons.....But yea sure they'll beat 2017 dubs😂

    • @liquidmetalslime9
      @liquidmetalslime9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@warrencook8738 the 04 pistons was the best team, they lost key role players after that year and eventually Ben Wallace left too. It's not like it was the same team, magically getting worse or just losing year after year.
      I don't know how the 2017 warriors can beat about beating anyone, they ruined the game of basketball, the NBA, and then teaming up was the softest shit I've ever seen.

    • @michaelmamitesarmecin5137
      @michaelmamitesarmecin5137 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dummy, they lost to eventual champions - the 2005 Spurs and the 2006 Heat. There's no shame in being 2nd place against the toughest competition. Plus they went to ECF consecutive years while losing key players year after year, most especially Ben.

    • @antoineb9371
      @antoineb9371 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No they don’t, they talk about thier championship every once in a while . But the Celtics team of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett be talking like they a dynasty 😂

  • @rstreet5537
    @rstreet5537 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I more inclined to listening to podcasts like this because yall are talking basketball not the bs I see on tv

  • @MrStretch52
    @MrStretch52 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’ll never see a older dude ,, say that these younger dudes are better😂😂 . Even though they are

  • @gwenmarie7311
    @gwenmarie7311 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I said that to Sheed. I said that that Detroit team will not let Steph run around like that. Different era

  • @galvinklatt5273
    @galvinklatt5273 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothings says you’re over the hill like saying “you’d wax someone”

  • @gwenmarie7311
    @gwenmarie7311 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please get Rip and Prince and Ben on the show

  • @whatchuongang8435
    @whatchuongang8435 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1 ring 😂

  • @Anonymousviewer-zs2cl
    @Anonymousviewer-zs2cl หลายเดือนก่อน

    take it EAASY!! Black Mamba & Shaq was busy fighting with each other vs fighting against Pistons!!!

  • @JayMulder-iq2xb
    @JayMulder-iq2xb หลายเดือนก่อน

    The common thing is every team comparison say's they would win😂😂😂

  • @Chuck_A_Luck_Stank
    @Chuck_A_Luck_Stank หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Detroit team was underrated.. culmination of composed vets & sounds coaching.. everybody on that team played like they had something to prove & you know they knew basketball bc they were claiming teams in the most offensive era of basketball (when fair defense was still a part of the game). Sure to that, the can match up with most championship teams in modern era & give em some swat if they don't win. Tashaun Prince got KD, i ain't saying lock but he gone turn it down some..

  • @antharr510
    @antharr510 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nobody outside of Detroit believes this lol

  • @eduardus923
    @eduardus923 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys talk like you’re that good.
    You won 1 championship.
    I cheers for you guys to get that rematch with spurs in 07 when you’re the #1 seed.
    That’s still hurts to this day

  • @peat381low8
    @peat381low8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That 04’ Pistons team kept a Prime Kobe Bryant from scoring above average. They kept Kobe at 22 PPG.

    • @BenGettinit204
      @BenGettinit204 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cause a prime Kobe didn't have a team.

    • @peat381low8
      @peat381low8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BenGettinit204 I didn't hear Kobe make any excuses when he lost in 04'. You laker fans are something else. You can lose but great players can't be averaging 22PPG in any series.

    • @dloftan5539
      @dloftan5539 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peat381low8he didn’t complain because he’s not Lebron still doesn’t mean him not having a team isn’t facts

    • @peat381low8
      @peat381low8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dloftan5539 Kobe averaged 35ppg for an entire season. You guys will do anything to avoid giving credit to a defensive Pistons team holding Kobe to 22PPG. That takes a special type of talent.

    • @BenGettinit204
      @BenGettinit204 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@peat381low8 I'm GSW S30 ALL DAY

  • @anthonybanks1948
    @anthonybanks1948 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Detroit team had enough shooters to play in this era CB, Rip, Sheed, and they had Okur and Delfino off the bench they could play the 4 or 5 out game today

  • @JoeKosten-lr7cr
    @JoeKosten-lr7cr 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Steph changed basketball culture forever in terms of making it okay to shoot 3's at a high volume. I would LOVE to see a world where Chauncey had that kind of freedom to jack it up. Obviously no one will ever know "who would win" because those games can never be played.
    So I don't know who would win, but I am confident Draymond Green would have a really hard time with Rasheed Wallace. Rasheed would get into another gear whenever he got mad and you better believe Draymond would make him mad.

  • @LiLBankai
    @LiLBankai หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sheed is where the heavy mismatch is.

  • @manuelshaul9244
    @manuelshaul9244 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They forgetting the best the lakers who had shaq kobe gary oeyton and mallone. Just sayung

  • @sychobones3788
    @sychobones3788 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thing is 4/5 of those pistons starters were good/really good at hittin 3's. Increase the volume a hot rip, chauncey, or sheed gonna do their thing!

  • @maknificentthegreat3441
    @maknificentthegreat3441 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Portland squad tho!!! 🤯

  • @edhc94
    @edhc94 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rasheed would have been the key to make it a competitive series

  • @benjaminbritt7862
    @benjaminbritt7862 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Casey why? :/

  • @selig7
    @selig7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They would have got the asses blown off the court by the warriors.

  • @tbsu07
    @tbsu07 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bonzi!!!! Chirp chirp brother!!!

  • @bambam0284
    @bambam0284 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think they forget how demoralizing it was to play the warriors. I remember watching entire teams giving up because they were down 15-20 by the second half, knowing the game was gonna end with them down 30.
    The 15-16 warriors dominated the league that year. Coaches gave up, players gave up, the warriors took hearts that year. The pistons wouldn't be any different. Not enough shooting

  • @DrRhilTV
    @DrRhilTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rip on Steph is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sugarbear1225
    @sugarbear1225 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bron would've did that to Ben Wallace too💯

    • @dwx7264
      @dwx7264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hell nah

  • @randman21
    @randman21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 04 Pistons wouldn't have made it out of the ECF if so many Pacers weren't playing hurt. They definitely wouldn't have made it past Indiana the next year if not for that brawl. Pacers blew their chance at back-to-back rings.

  • @mattsell2361
    @mattsell2361 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    These old heads need to quit living the good ole days. Sheed saying they were more talented is crazy 😂.

    • @Kizaru208
      @Kizaru208 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Young lebron alone destroyed them😂

  • @SheriffChuck81-qq5vq
    @SheriffChuck81-qq5vq หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Talking about being one of the greatest teams of all time in the NBA? You weren't even the greatest team of all time in Detroit. 🤣

  • @DecaturQue
    @DecaturQue หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sound good. I guess we’ll never know.