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Love the video. while some my seem meddling with their employes life outside of work as tyrianical thing I don't thing so myself, since they where values that are actually better for you (only talking about the no smoke no drink not the rest). and I am sure the families of the workers where better of with not having those vices at home. i am not religious in the slightest but I grew up with an alcholic parent, so despise alcoholism and i never drink at home even at 30.
7:10 : That $5 per day wage came with ANOTHER string attached: When you started work at the company, you were only paid $2.34 per day. At the end of one year, if you were still employed, your salary was retroactively increased to $5 per day. Basically, you got a one-year bonus the size of all of your entire first year's paychecks combined, and then earned $5 per day thereafter. But if you quit (or were fired) before that first year was out, nada. THIS was one of the main tricks that kept employees loyal.
Also also, the amount paid retroactively was basically enough to buy a Model T. So even this extra cost would almost certainly return to them as profit on a Model T sale.
Another thing the $5 wage did was make it so that the workers could afford to buy a car. Which was a brilliant marketing plan. Not only does Frank work for Ford, but he also drives a Ford.
And he bought loyalty. I mean people are much less likely to go against you if they see you as this great man that gave them a job with fantastic pay for the time and willingly lowered his prices low enough for even you low wage workers to afford.
@@Nostripe361 It also increases productivity. Ford one of the first big business man who noticed when workers are happy and well controlled they'll be more productive so you can pay them double but earn triple.
And yet today Ford workers can't but the cars they make. And far from the Model T era the cheapest vehicle made by Ford is a stupid impractical truck too small to do anything a real truck would do and too large to easily maneuver like a car even here in Dearborn, let alone in a larger or denser city like NYC. On top of that Farley is badmouthing the UAW.
I like how you avoid lionizing Ford and explore his micromanaging and dictatorial tendencies that would've ruined his company if not for grounded minds like Couzens. That's one of the reasons I love Extra History: you tear down myths and explore the nuances behind the so-called "great men of history."
The series often strays too far into the opposite extreme: becoming obsessed with tearing down the formerly lionized Great Men. I don't know enough about early XXth century American history to argue all of their points, but for one example their 'foreshadow' skits were entirely unnecessary, broken up the flow of the episodes and served only to hyper focused on the negative aspects of Ford's character that had yet to play a major role at the moment in time those episodes were describing.
It's a problem with all inventors. A lot of people want a neat simple story and don't add in the smaller stories of people who helped the famous person by either providing parts of the overall system or invention or as a leash to keep the "visionary" from going to far or aiming for perfection.
My day just got ten thousand times better. First, my day was horribly. Recently broke my right arm during a sled incident. And now, that Extra History posted, I feel way better!
my wife is from Sweden and moved to the States when here and I were engaged. She's also quite knowledgeable about multiple American car companies and I was quite surprised by it. haha. Makes a little more sense now.
Ford's insistence on his employees learning the english language makes absolute sense, but the other demands were simply insane. Although I can understand (but not agree with) his insistence on preventing alcohol consumption by the employees.
I mean I can understand controlling their drinking by way of having them not drinking on the clock but he didn't need to try to force them to stop drinking completely.
It was a stupid idea of capitalists to be something like a demigod for their workers. Ford was not the only one who spied into the private life of people.
@@Nostripe361 Even not allowing them to drink on the clock was considered enough to get people to quit on him. It was standard practise for workers to drink beer or alcohol to get them through the 12-16 hour work day and give them the energy to power through on 1 meal a day with drinks through the day. It was not uncommon for owners to buy beer for workers to stop their grumbling about wages and work conditions and exhaustion. I think Ford was drunk men as a liability though, imprecise and uncaring. If they were sober like him, then they must also be as precise and care as much as he did about the mechanics.
Theres always a fine middle line. Unfortunately, the line is commonly viewed as making people weak, and self-proclaimed "Normal people" rail HARD against weakness of ANY kind
The local auto workers in my town have joined in on the strike with the UAW. Our group in college are supporting them anyway we fan, so it’s fun to see all this happen while watching
"Pay when you can" Charity can be far more profitable in the long run than trying to squeeze out ever possible cent in the moment. Whether knowingly done in a calculated move or genuine compassion, being nice and helpful pays dividends. Even if you are a cold blooded sociopath, you can't deny that this kind of generosity helped sell the brand on a massive extreme.
Especially if you're selling to an entity, like a big city, that you can be reasonably confident will eventually pay. You do lose some money in the short term, but it's great advertising & PR.
and also, its better to have a town of people survive a terrible disaster and then cum in you to buy your products and stuff than have the town entirely burn down, leaving destitute people and less consumers who can afford your product. + it put the folks there in debt to repay those cars so they got the money back at some point :P@@techmage89
The building with rough rural roads in mind also helped another vehicle company. Oshkosh Trucks were also built with pre-highway rural roads in mind. And now they're a major civil and defense contractor.
3:49 an interesting thing about the way Model T owners applied personalities to cars is that you can kind of see how this would evolve into the modern idea of the automotive enthusiasts. Sometimes we’ll give our cars names, or just treat them with some extra level of affection. In my case, I’ll sometimes brush my hand across my car’s body to appreciate the lines of the body. Plus, the aftermarket intake I added makes the car sound like it’s breathing. To us, our cars have a personality and serve as an extension of our own.
And with modern technology growing more and more complex, resulting in machines sometimes producing strange outputs from seemingly normal inputs, this is only reinforced. Who has never tried to talk computer into walking faster may cast the first stone.
That $850 price tag is so funny. I recently bought a project Honda civic for just $800 and it only...kind of works? Really goes to show how far that much money could take you back in the day.
I guess it should be noted that inflation-adjusted $850 in 1908 is $28,366 today. However 850 in 1908 was 3 times the average US annual income, meanwhile that 28,366 today is only 46% of the average annual income.
After watching Extra History for years, I’ve come to realize how true the line in Dark Knight is: “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.
My great grandfather stabbed in the battle of the overpass wherefore private security force brutally assaulted the UAW president Walter P Ruther I really hope you talk about it in the next episode.
Has there been other business p related series than those two? I can’t think of any. From one of episodes the 1929 stock market crash and Affair of the Diamond necklace were kind of is business related. But pretty different types.
When the invasive, oppressive social engineering doesn't count as the "dark side of Henry Ford", I know I'm in for some terrible things next episode...
The Model "T" was so abundant and inexpensive that Hollywood, during the silent era and into the early "talkies" era, had no qualms about purchasing the readily available vehicles and often destroying them in stunt sequences or otherwise refurbishing them for various tasks such as mobile camera platforms.
@@mistformsquirrel they were used a lot in the comedy films of such names as Buster Keaton, Laurel & Hardy, the Keyston Cops, and others. The cars were often altered for gags such as "stretching" cars and what-not.
And science magazine in the 1920's and 1930's oftentimes have at least one article about how to convert the Model T into other pieces of machinery (oftentimes into tractors)...
7:25 "Come to a gathering in your traditional national costumes." Hey, that's actually kind of a wholesome way to appreciate each others culture! "Then go into a caldron to change into a suit and wave an American flag" Oh.
Yeah, and phrasing it as costumes becomes a certain extra level of yikes as if implying that traditional attire of other nations is lesser and inferior.
@@bthsr7113 Costume - "a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.", it's literally the most correct word to use. Go yell at the people calling a halloween skeleton mask a costume.
So... they should NEVER learn the language, NEVER integrate, NEVER learn any customs of the place they plan to call home for the rest of their lives, and act like they're Roman Colonists in a Sea of Gauls?
I feel like 'historical civilis' recent video on the history of work and the obbsesive social engineering of industrialists works very well with this one.
The 40 hour work week had an ulterior motive. Ford was wondering why his workers weren't buying cars. Since they worked 6 days a week and only took Sundays off to go to church, they simply had no time. So Ford gave them Saturdays off.
I doubt it. His own workforce would have been a tiny fraction of the total market for cars. Though it makes for good PR when your own workers use your products.
@@anderskorsback4104 But when one company implements benefits for their workers it forces others to do the same, why would a worker stay at Cadillac for example when they got paid better and did fewer hours for Ford. Spread from there
@@TheRambunctious that assumes there are more job openings than willing workers to fill them, which isn't always the case. Ford wasn't ever going to employ such an amount of workers that it would starve its rivals of access to labour. We're largely talking about simple and repetitive assembly line work here, the kind that is nowadays almost exclusively done by robots, not specialized labour in short supply.
Henry Ford is an interesting figure. I feel that while he was overly hero worshiped in the past today he can often be overly demonized. In truth he was nether a hero nor a villain but was a man.
He undeniably brought massive change to the world. Both good change, and harmful change. Even in the same actions with the same changes. Creating the affordable car brought greatly enhanced mobility to the countryside, but also would lead to the smothering of public transit like trolleys and trains. Using Gasoline made personal transportation more viable than any competing power plant at the time could, but it has become entrenched to now stifle viable electric cars and hinder hydrogen powered cars when not propping them up to undermine electric cars.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Look I don’t get why the melting pot thing was wrong if you don’t want to be American and embrace American values then don’t move there. The same goes for any other nation. Plus most of the people working for ford likely WANTED to assimilate as people used to understand this. You come to America and get to become American. That’s what immigration was partially about. Assimilation.
History can be funny to look back on sometimes. Cars are everywhere today, so to be told of a time when they were around, but seen as something that'd never catch on, you can't help but chuckle to it all 😅
Yes and No. Ford was an exception, the first nation to implement 40hr work weeks on a massive scale was Funny Mustache Germany in the 1930s, after WW2 everyone else was kind of forced to implement 40hr work weeks (minus most Communist Nations of course)
Cars definitely gave way to the idea of dating who you wanted though. Before that the parent brought a prospective young man home for their daughter where she was encouraged to not say no to a proposal after a few dates.
2:10: An error here: «Wheelbase» refers to the distance between the front and rear axles. The distance between the right and left wheels is called the «track width»!
To be honest... instead of scrolling I watch youtube videos like this. I'd love that there were more channels like this one. If someone can recommend animations about history I'd love to see it
I hope the next episode doesn't overly demonize Henry Ford in a way to push an agenda. We deserve a history lesson that is fair and honest. Hope you can do that 😊
If you take a tour of the Charles RIver Technology Museum in Waltham Ma you'd learn about the clock and bicycle factors that did Mass productions and they tell about Ford learning from those examples.
6:28 so factory work really hasn't changed that much in the last hundred years where I'm from factory work is viewed as high-paying but mind-numbing and backbreaking
8:15 so henry ford ran his company like the military and was one of the biggest inspirations for intrusive and punitive bosses in workplaces and we still have this system a century later.
Ford's story is one that I went into knowing the ending but watching so that I could see it happen. I just happened to learn a few things along the way.
We are Lebanese Americans living in Michigan my dad is a first generation immigrant who has worked at Ford as an engineer for 30 years… growing up I always chose Henry Ford to do on my reports because my father speaks highly of the man
Clarification at 1:39: The BLOCK of a Model T was one piece of metal. This is called a unified block and it contains the cylinders, coolant and oil passages, and crankcase in one heavily machined chunk of metal. Older designs (And even some modern ones like large marine diesels) have each cylinder (which houses the pistons) with its cooling jackets and oil passages *Separate* from the crankcase, which houses only the crankshaft. This was a more expensive method, but easier to produce, especially for smaller companies as the more complex machining was broken up into smaller chunks
So basically the $5 a day wage is just like half pay half bonus. The bonus came from characters requirements and enforced through spying and intruision. If not compliance enough the wage will cut back to $2.34.
As someone who works on cars I still use such sayings as “it’s just being stubborn” I’m 24.. idk if that’s just what we say but it certainly makes sense and fits the situation at hand
Not exactly. He kept track of what cars he handed out and to what organization/fire hall/government with signed bills. He took advantage of the situation by selling them cars on loan instead of just loaning them cars and hoping they bought them/repaid him after the disaster was over. He was a capitalist after all, and he wasn't letting money fly out the door.
That's ... not exactly what happened. It was an excellent advertising campaign and he *did* get paid for every car in the end. Cars which, remember, were not selling in California before the crisis at all. Ford only made money off of this deal. No charity happened here, only pragmatic recognition of the fact that immediate payment wasn't practical.
@@notapuma The cars were sitting unsold and unused and unwanted. he could have given the cars away as an advertisement and for goodwill, and lost little but waste stock he was going to have to pay to destroy. Instead he made them pay and it worked out for him in the end as they actually liked them once they had them. But he was not a man of charity.
For comparison, $850 in 1908 is worth about $28,437 in 2023, whereas $490 in 1916 is worth $13,846, which is a hell of a lot cheaper than the average price of a new car today ($48,008 as of March 2023)
@extrahistory, call it nostalgia, call it what you want but that moment at 9:16 when the original Extra Credits soundtrack kicked in just gave me goosebumps almost brought tiers to my eyes. How long has ExtraCredits been around for? I mean the original original gaming-related videos, at the very beginning? Have we hit a decade yet?
In Detroit alot of the guys who worked to make Ford Motor Company a success are commemorated. Maybe not as well know but their names are all over the city.
I've heard several sources say that much of the idea of the production line from the meatpacking industry. How they disassembled animals he could assemble cars
I JUST learned about the Ford Melting Pot in the book "American Nations", which is about the big cultural nations that comprise America. It was one of many other tactics Yankeedom used to assimilate immigrants, out of a fear of losing their Puritan identity.
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Love the video. while some my seem meddling with their employes life outside of work as tyrianical thing I don't thing so myself, since they where values that are actually better for you (only talking about the no smoke no drink not the rest). and I am sure the families of the workers where better of with not having those vices at home. i am not religious in the slightest but I grew up with an alcholic parent, so despise alcoholism and i never drink at home even at 30.
2.34 at 40 hours a week for 52 weeks is
$4,867.20 or 149,435.69 in 2023
5.00 at 40 hours a week for 52 weeks is
$10,400 or $319,307.04 today
Absolutely love these videos!
I should make mention of the (Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipede) being a steam engine powered velocipede produced from 1867 to 1871 in France,
7:10 : That $5 per day wage came with ANOTHER string attached:
When you started work at the company, you were only paid $2.34 per day. At the end of one year, if you were still employed, your salary was retroactively increased to $5 per day. Basically, you got a one-year bonus the size of all of your entire first year's paychecks combined, and then earned $5 per day thereafter. But if you quit (or were fired) before that first year was out, nada.
THIS was one of the main tricks that kept employees loyal.
And it makes sense you would only want to give employees that could handle the work and extra bs that money.
Also also, the amount paid retroactively was basically enough to buy a Model T. So even this extra cost would almost certainly return to them as profit on a Model T sale.
Another thing the $5 wage did was make it so that the workers could afford to buy a car. Which was a brilliant marketing plan. Not only does Frank work for Ford, but he also drives a Ford.
And he bought loyalty. I mean people are much less likely to go against you if they see you as this great man that gave them a job with fantastic pay for the time and willingly lowered his prices low enough for even you low wage workers to afford.
@@Nostripe361 It also increases productivity. Ford one of the first big business man who noticed when workers are happy and well controlled they'll be more productive so you can pay them double but earn triple.
@@anoretu1995 What some companies have forgotten is that high wages and good benefits are investments. And they will pay dividends.
And yet today Ford workers can't but the cars they make. And far from the Model T era the cheapest vehicle made by Ford is a stupid impractical truck too small to do anything a real truck would do and too large to easily maneuver like a car even here in Dearborn, let alone in a larger or denser city like NYC. On top of that Farley is badmouthing the UAW.
the kind of forward thinking economic planning that just doesn't happen today when next quarters profits are the only thing that matters
First half of the video: "Yeah, so Ford was basically Steve Jobs, but not an asshole"
Second half of the video: "about that..."
😂😂😂
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Real talk, a Steve Jobs series would be cool...
"California had just learned to love the automobile"
And now we have LA as a result. Thanks Ford.
LA was always a lost cause as soon as oil was discovered there 😅
@@Mcfunface It wasn't Ford that killed LA but all those awful freeways and bad planning.
@@Mcfunface la was a lost cause when the first person moved there
@@CheeseMiserLA was a lost cause as soon as the first bacteria made it to that place.
Closer pin might be the Streetcar Conspiracy, but this absolutely set the stage for that.
I like how you avoid lionizing Ford and explore his micromanaging and dictatorial tendencies that would've ruined his company if not for grounded minds like Couzens. That's one of the reasons I love Extra History: you tear down myths and explore the nuances behind the so-called "great men of history."
Huh I guess you really learn something new every day
Thank you! We like to remind people that historical figures have the good, the bad and the ugly days too.
The series often strays too far into the opposite extreme: becoming obsessed with tearing down the formerly lionized Great Men. I don't know enough about early XXth century American history to argue all of their points, but for one example their 'foreshadow' skits were entirely unnecessary, broken up the flow of the episodes and served only to hyper focused on the negative aspects of Ford's character that had yet to play a major role at the moment in time those episodes were describing.
@@fillosof66689thank god someone has the courage to stand up for the meager reputation of Henry Ford
@@zed739 you jeer, but the Awful Men theory of history is currently winning, in history popularization spaces if not formal academia of history.
5:17 I really appreciate that you include the people not really mentioned, not only is it more accurate but also puts things to perspective
It's a problem with all inventors. A lot of people want a neat simple story and don't add in the smaller stories of people who helped the famous person by either providing parts of the overall system or invention or as a leash to keep the "visionary" from going to far or aiming for perfection.
My day just got ten thousand times better. First, my day was horribly. Recently broke my right arm during a sled incident. And now, that Extra History posted, I feel way better!
Sorry to hear about your arm. Try to be a little more careful when doing so many sick tricks while sledding.
Get well soon!
That sucks. But there’s plenty of Extra History to binge. Hope you heal soon!
Hold up. Sledding? What kind we talking about? Like the winter sledding or something else?
Get well soon!
Henry Ford sure is a facinating historicsl figure, one I learned about as young as nine, which I don't think most Swedish children did.
Wow! Not something I thought would be taught in Sweden. That’s awesome!
@@extrahistorywe don’t. He did say that he tinks most kids don’t
my wife is from Sweden and moved to the States when here and I were engaged. She's also quite knowledgeable about multiple American car companies and I was quite surprised by it. haha. Makes a little more sense now.
When you hear the date at the start of the video, you can immediately recognize what’s going to happen
Ford's insistence on his employees learning the english language makes absolute sense, but the other demands were simply insane.
Although I can understand (but not agree with) his insistence on preventing alcohol consumption by the employees.
I mean I can understand controlling their drinking by way of having them not drinking on the clock but he didn't need to try to force them to stop drinking completely.
It was a stupid idea of capitalists to be something like a demigod for their workers. Ford was not the only one who spied into the private life of people.
@@Nostripe361 Even not allowing them to drink on the clock was considered enough to get people to quit on him. It was standard practise for workers to drink beer or alcohol to get them through the 12-16 hour work day and give them the energy to power through on 1 meal a day with drinks through the day. It was not uncommon for owners to buy beer for workers to stop their grumbling about wages and work conditions and exhaustion.
I think Ford was drunk men as a liability though, imprecise and uncaring. If they were sober like him, then they must also be as precise and care as much as he did about the mechanics.
Theres always a fine middle line.
Unfortunately, the line is commonly viewed as making people weak, and self-proclaimed "Normal people" rail HARD against weakness of ANY kind
So long as they are sober in the clock and the drinking doesn’t affect their work, then why bother
The local auto workers in my town have joined in on the strike with the UAW. Our group in college are supporting them anyway we fan, so it’s fun to see all this happen while watching
How did it go?
"Pay when you can" Charity can be far more profitable in the long run than trying to squeeze out ever possible cent in the moment. Whether knowingly done in a calculated move or genuine compassion, being nice and helpful pays dividends. Even if you are a cold blooded sociopath, you can't deny that this kind of generosity helped sell the brand on a massive extreme.
Especially if you're selling to an entity, like a big city, that you can be reasonably confident will eventually pay. You do lose some money in the short term, but it's great advertising & PR.
and also, its better to have a town of people survive a terrible disaster and then cum in you to buy your products and stuff than have the town entirely burn down, leaving destitute people and less consumers who can afford your product.
+ it put the folks there in debt to repay those cars so they got the money back at some point :P@@techmage89
Enlightened Self-Interest right there.
You sell more product when you aren't an asshole, who knew?
The building with rough rural roads in mind also helped another vehicle company. Oshkosh Trucks were also built with pre-highway rural roads in mind. And now they're a major civil and defense contractor.
"They'd check if you were drinking or smoking"
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"Or even if your home wasn't clean!"
PANIKKKK
The car revolutionized the countryside - and as an act of cosmic balance, destroyed the cities.
3:49 an interesting thing about the way Model T owners applied personalities to cars is that you can kind of see how this would evolve into the modern idea of the automotive enthusiasts.
Sometimes we’ll give our cars names, or just treat them with some extra level of affection.
In my case, I’ll sometimes brush my hand across my car’s body to appreciate the lines of the body. Plus, the aftermarket intake I added makes the car sound like it’s breathing.
To us, our cars have a personality and serve as an extension of our own.
Yup.
And with modern technology growing more and more complex, resulting in machines sometimes producing strange outputs from seemingly normal inputs, this is only reinforced.
Who has never tried to talk computer into walking faster may cast the first stone.
That $850 price tag is so funny. I recently bought a project Honda civic for just $800 and it only...kind of works? Really goes to show how far that much money could take you back in the day.
it is probably as reliable as a brand new model a
$850 back then would have been worth close to $40,000 today if going by product - if instead going by urban wages more than double that.
I guess it should be noted that inflation-adjusted $850 in 1908 is $28,366 today. However 850 in 1908 was 3 times the average US annual income, meanwhile that 28,366 today is only 46% of the average annual income.
After watching Extra History for years, I’ve come to realize how true the line in Dark Knight is: “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.
8:20 and this is why unionising is so important, kids.
100%
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My great grandfather stabbed in the battle of the overpass wherefore private security force brutally assaulted the UAW president Walter P Ruther I really hope you talk about it in the next episode.
Well, I guess I now understand why car-centric urban planning seemed like such a good idea at the time.
Remember friends: join your local unions. United we bargain, divided we have spies find out you were drinking on your own time and cut your pay.
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Agreed!
How is this from 23 hours ago
@@nicholasphelpspatron I think
@@CaptainKillroycorrect sir
Henry Ford has been my favorite business related series this show has done since Teddy Roosevelt. Keep it up Extra History 👍
Has there been other business p related series than those two? I can’t think of any. From one of episodes the 1929 stock market crash and Affair of the Diamond necklace were kind of is business related. But pretty different types.
I love your drawings and the little people are so cute! Keep making these epic history vids.
When the invasive, oppressive social engineering doesn't count as the "dark side of Henry Ford", I know I'm in for some terrible things next episode...
gulp
Actually, I thought that was pretty cool of him.
The Model "T" was so abundant and inexpensive that Hollywood, during the silent era and into the early "talkies" era, had no qualms about purchasing the readily available vehicles and often destroying them in stunt sequences or otherwise refurbishing them for various tasks such as mobile camera platforms.
I did not realize car chases and wrecking vehicles and such went back that far, awesome!
@@mistformsquirrel they were used a lot in the comedy films of such names as Buster Keaton, Laurel & Hardy, the Keyston Cops, and others. The cars were often altered for gags such as "stretching" cars and what-not.
And science magazine in the 1920's and 1930's oftentimes have at least one article about how to convert the Model T into other pieces of machinery (oftentimes into tractors)...
I wondered why the dolly rig is so bulky.
7:25
"Come to a gathering in your traditional national costumes."
Hey, that's actually kind of a wholesome way to appreciate each others culture!
"Then go into a caldron to change into a suit and wave an American flag"
Oh.
Yeah, and phrasing it as costumes becomes a certain extra level of yikes as if implying that traditional attire of other nations is lesser and inferior.
@@bthsr7113 Costume - "a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.", it's literally the most correct word to use. Go yell at the people calling a halloween skeleton mask a costume.
what's wrong with that?
So... they should NEVER learn the language, NEVER integrate, NEVER learn any customs of the place they plan to call home for the rest of their lives, and act like they're Roman Colonists in a Sea of Gauls?
@@bthsr7113Cope and Seethe. America is #1
I feel like 'historical civilis' recent video on the history of work and the obbsesive social engineering of industrialists works very well with this one.
Always looking forward to your amazing content guys! This series specially has been incredible! You rock🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
You rock!
@@extrahistory You more! 😎😎😎🫡🫡🫡
7:55
He must have absolutely ADORED the Muslims then. No drinking, no cohabitating, etc.
if he was alive today, the amount of money he would’ve donated to the Palestines would’ve been monumental
The 40 hour work week had an ulterior motive. Ford was wondering why his workers weren't buying cars. Since they worked 6 days a week and only took Sundays off to go to church, they simply had no time. So Ford gave them Saturdays off.
I doubt it. His own workforce would have been a tiny fraction of the total market for cars. Though it makes for good PR when your own workers use your products.
@@anderskorsback4104 But when one company implements benefits for their workers it forces others to do the same, why would a worker stay at Cadillac for example when they got paid better and did fewer hours for Ford. Spread from there
@@TheRambunctious that assumes there are more job openings than willing workers to fill them, which isn't always the case. Ford wasn't ever going to employ such an amount of workers that it would starve its rivals of access to labour. We're largely talking about simple and repetitive assembly line work here, the kind that is nowadays almost exclusively done by robots, not specialized labour in short supply.
3:55 These folks were clearly exploring a very early understanding of the Machine Spirit
Thank you, Extra History! I just watched the second video and will watch this, Keep it up!
Thanks for watching!
Ooh, we’re getting into the “fun” part where Ford lived long enough to become the villain.
I think this is Matt's best narration at EC so far!
Henry Ford is an interesting figure. I feel that while he was overly hero worshiped in the past today he can often be overly demonized. In truth he was nether a hero nor a villain but was a man.
Indeed, he was a man with the right idea at the right time surrounded by the right people.
He undeniably brought massive change to the world. Both good change, and harmful change. Even in the same actions with the same changes. Creating the affordable car brought greatly enhanced mobility to the countryside, but also would lead to the smothering of public transit like trolleys and trains. Using Gasoline made personal transportation more viable than any competing power plant at the time could, but it has become entrenched to now stifle viable electric cars and hinder hydrogen powered cars when not propping them up to undermine electric cars.
@@bthsr7113Not to mention him wanting to "Americanize" everything he touches damn your consent makes him very distasteful towards non-Americans...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131Then don't come to America? If you want to assimilate then your free to stay in your own country, lol
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Look I don’t get why the melting pot thing was wrong if you don’t want to be American and embrace American values then don’t move there. The same goes for any other nation. Plus most of the people working for ford likely WANTED to assimilate as people used to understand this. You come to America and get to become American. That’s what immigration was partially about. Assimilation.
History can be funny to look back on sometimes. Cars are everywhere today, so to be told of a time when they were around, but seen as something that'd never catch on, you can't help but chuckle to it all 😅
It's absolutely insane that the 40 hour work week has been in place for literally over 100 years
It was an improvement from a non-standardized (and often way more gruelling) work in the couple hundred years prior. 60 hour work weeks, for instance
Yes and No. Ford was an exception, the first nation to implement 40hr work weeks on a massive scale was Funny Mustache Germany in the 1930s, after WW2 everyone else was kind of forced to implement 40hr work weeks (minus most Communist Nations of course)
The canon "J*w Flattening Machine".
Railways gave rise to vacation culture before the Model T in the 19th century.
Cars definitely gave way to the idea of dating who you wanted though. Before that the parent brought a prospective young man home for their daughter where she was encouraged to not say no to a proposal after a few dates.
The Model T gave much more freedom to go to nearby scenic places that weren't along a train route.
Glad to see you guys are still making vids
Noncar people will never understand will never understand that cars do have personality and souls
2:10: An error here: «Wheelbase» refers to the distance between the front and rear axles. The distance between the right and left wheels is called the «track width»!
To be honest... instead of scrolling I watch youtube videos like this. I'd love that there were more channels like this one. If someone can recommend animations about history I'd love to see it
Some of the best ones are Historia Civilis for the ancient world, History matters for Medieval and Armchair Historian for Napoleonic/Early Modern Era.
Sam O'nella is a good one!
Thank you so much!
I got a question. Can you please do the history of John Deere. I think that would be a pretty neat video.
The parallels to Elon Musk are stunning, he is also revealing his dark side and heading into the conspiracy pot.
Elon is speedrunning this
Like You've met either. History in reality ultimately means his story. Propagandists will control the story one way or another.
Can’t wait for everyone else to see part 4
I hope the next episode doesn't overly demonize Henry Ford in a way to push an agenda. We deserve a history lesson that is fair and honest. Hope you can do that 😊
The dark side was about to emerge?!
He is literally sending goons to your house already....
1:31 Ford really rocks that steve jobs turtle neck! 😎😎😎😎😎
To translate the prices into modern day amounts, $490 in 1916 is roughly $14,000 today, so cheap even by today's standards
Hot. Damn. That is wild for a new car.
A part of me finds the standards he held his workers at extremely admirable and beneficial.
0:08 it's because cities like San Francisco and Salt Lake City had streetcars already pulled on trolley systems.
If you take a tour of the Charles RIver Technology Museum in Waltham Ma you'd learn about the clock and bicycle factors that did Mass productions and they tell about Ford learning from those examples.
6:28 so factory work really hasn't changed that much in the last hundred years where I'm from factory work is viewed as high-paying but mind-numbing and backbreaking
8:15 so henry ford ran his company like the military and was one of the biggest inspirations for intrusive and punitive bosses in workplaces and we still have this system a century later.
Is that even legal?
@@sebdragonholste2404 not sure but with enough power and influence it doesn't matter someone will vouch for you
@@sebdragonholste2404 doesnt matter if somethings legal or not if your rich enough
@@Grayson-tk5hn unfortunately that kind of is the case
The person who wrote that intro NAILED it.
Ford's story is one that I went into knowing the ending but watching so that I could see it happen. I just happened to learn a few things along the way.
Ya know, I always wondered what Ford would’ve thought of Aldous Huxley’s novel _Brave New World_
Ford was at around 70 when it came out after all
We are Lebanese Americans living in Michigan my dad is a first generation immigrant who has worked at Ford as an engineer for 30 years… growing up I always chose Henry Ford to do on my reports because my father speaks highly of the man
Lol love the Magneto at 2:00
That’s an awfully monotonous dish Ford is cooking (7:30). I thought that the whole point of a melting pot was to mix flavors, not cover them up.
Fun fact: Many planes today still use magnetos.
1:54 Britain: "Are you sure about that?"
"A business that makes nothing but money is a poor business." -- Henry Ford
source?
Don't know if there's a source but he was obviously interested in a lot more than making money for better or for worse.
Clarification at 1:39: The BLOCK of a Model T was one piece of metal. This is called a unified block and it contains the cylinders, coolant and oil passages, and crankcase in one heavily machined chunk of metal.
Older designs (And even some modern ones like large marine diesels) have each cylinder (which houses the pistons) with its cooling jackets and oil passages *Separate* from the crankcase, which houses only the crankshaft. This was a more expensive method, but easier to produce, especially for smaller companies as the more complex machining was broken up into smaller chunks
That fist motive would make a new movie
So basically the $5 a day wage is just like half pay half bonus. The bonus came from characters requirements and enforced through spying and intruision. If not compliance enough the wage will cut back to $2.34.
kinda but its mentioned that if you dont comply again you get fired
As someone who works on cars I still use such sayings as “it’s just being stubborn” I’m 24.. idk if that’s just what we say but it certainly makes sense and fits the situation at hand
Thinh made bake then were great and still last today, I have so many typewriter from around that time and all of them are great.
Ford on his way to go From California to Le Man's is a great journey ngl
"they see me rolling, they hating" 💀
"Telling them to pay when they can."
I love that so much. Putting aside profit for people.
Not exactly. He kept track of what cars he handed out and to what organization/fire hall/government with signed bills. He took advantage of the situation by selling them cars on loan instead of just loaning them cars and hoping they bought them/repaid him after the disaster was over. He was a capitalist after all, and he wasn't letting money fly out the door.
It is arguably a marketing campaign too, so not entirely for the people alone, though I suppose his terms were generous
@@littlekong7685Should he have bankrupt himself? And as we just saw it wasn't him being the shrewd businessman, but Couzen.
That's ... not exactly what happened.
It was an excellent advertising campaign and he *did* get paid for every car in the end. Cars which, remember, were not selling in California before the crisis at all. Ford only made money off of this deal. No charity happened here, only pragmatic recognition of the fact that immediate payment wasn't practical.
@@notapuma The cars were sitting unsold and unused and unwanted. he could have given the cars away as an advertisement and for goodwill, and lost little but waste stock he was going to have to pay to destroy. Instead he made them pay and it worked out for him in the end as they actually liked them once they had them. But he was not a man of charity.
i love this series
3:52 cars having an attitude,
Early 1900s car people 🤝🏽 modern car people
This is wild af basically its like working for Disney but more automotive technical.
Ah yes. The Model T. The car that start it all.
California earthquake disaster: *exists*
That one Ford dealer: It's free real estate
Intro: And God Said ‘Let There Be Cars’
Ford is a controversial character as although he added 5 days work weeks etc, he was also over controlling and micro managing
Man that epic rap battle makes so much more sense now
Awesome
4:10 The machine spirit must be appeased!
The machine spirit is in its toddler years
For comparison, $850 in 1908 is worth about $28,437 in 2023, whereas $490 in 1916 is worth $13,846, which is a hell of a lot cheaper than the average price of a new car today ($48,008 as of March 2023)
What a weird coincidence. I was looking up details on the book "The Grapes of Wrath" immediately before watching this video.
Cartoons had to come from somewhere
The idea of driving is a terrifying one. We could still have horses instead but no Henry Ford had to ruin it!
You folks should do a series on the San Francisco Earth Quake of 1905
I love this series, is quite possibly the beet one yet
It's the model T ford that made the people wanna go, want get, 10! 20! miles out to the county seat!
I wait for every episode because i know each one will be good
Can you tell us about the Creation of Military Alliance please i need for my hystpry class
@extrahistory, call it nostalgia, call it what you want but that moment at 9:16 when the original Extra Credits soundtrack kicked in just gave me goosebumps almost brought tiers to my eyes. How long has ExtraCredits been around for? I mean the original original gaming-related videos, at the very beginning? Have we hit a decade yet?
Nice work.
Great animation 👏😁🎉
I love how you draw!
In Detroit alot of the guys who worked to make Ford Motor Company a success are commemorated. Maybe not as well know but their names are all over the city.
I've heard several sources say that much of the idea of the production line from the meatpacking industry. How they disassembled animals he could assemble cars
sounds like freaking amazon
I JUST learned about the Ford Melting Pot in the book "American Nations", which is about the big cultural nations that comprise America. It was one of many other tactics Yankeedom used to assimilate immigrants, out of a fear of losing their Puritan identity.