nah but he's not wrong it's really hard for any team to have more than 1 year of success; something always goes wrong. That's why T1's multi-year success is so good. but... I believe
@@maxk880he’s actually not so mentally resilient. I don’t think he should’ve said “we completely lost the game over Baron”. Then he backpedaled after but it’s not something that should’ve been said in the first place
@@TheSmartCinema I think it was about the Rumble cone, Bwipo says "we just lost to a super cone, I didn't realize", referring to the fact that he they didn't check if it was there, or didn't consider it a possibility. He was confidently calling to finish baron ("Move, we're gonna finish this nash") but didn't expect a Rumble on top of him, that's why he says "I have to go on this guy", at that point baron was doomed. The cone that killed Massu didn't matter as much, fight was over anyways + baron to GenG whether it popped or not.
@@attaboy7729 i think ur all wrong. I think he meant that he himself jhit the vision cone on top towards baron. That can be seen by enemy, and they ziggs r and rumble plant after that.
can't believe i was said "who is this guy?" on Massu when i saw him in the Worlds MV. but now all i can say "i better shut my mouth and toss him some respect.". if T1 win again this year, imma say it's thanks to FlyQuest for exposing GenG and fought till the end. o7
I feel bad for bwipo with that vision cone, I wish he hadn’t hit that because I think they could have snowballed that into a win and it would have been awesome for them, they are such a wholesome and positive team!
That Skarner ult last fight was so weird, he's either the goat or missed on kalista, but how could he fail it that far in that direction? It's really possible that was intended to predict fiddle ult dude, if that's the case, that's insane
If you look at this team, they remind me a lot of G2, they play better when they are having fun which they seem to have every game. The team atmosphere seems to be really high , In contrast to G2 this year who looked pretty Defeated from the start.
To be honest, it is fairly easy to have that mentality when nobody expects you to win or go far in the tournament. The real pressure starts when people expects you to win.
@@DasSnekhonestly I disagree, it’s been like that since summer split it’s feel like the combination of pressure, and the fact that they’re exhausted for trying to play like an asian team that burn them out so hard. Remember they almost eliminated BLG from swiss.
@@Torannn These are not mutually exclusive things. I'm pretty sure being removed from your team looming on the horizon will impact mental on top of everything else. I don't see how them 'almost' eliminating BLG is relevant here.
I wasnt a fan of both, but FLY made me actually rooting for them and felt sad when they couldnt make it. Thank god chovy smolder otp got punished in semi by none other than the team that they won against for 2 years straight😂
as much as i find bwipo to be insufferable with his attitude ect. He is exactly the type of teammate you want in the thick of things on that stage. He says my bad even if its not, he tries to engage his team pre game to calm nerves, he is extremely talented at his role and he communicates constantly. Anyone with any competitive experience will always respect that part regardless of everything else. A true leader in those regards.
8:57, yah at worlds the meta shift seemed to really hurt TL. The entire team looked lost in macro without being able to pick an adc mid. Also, unsure what happened to impact he performed phenomenally this entire split but definitely felt like a liability during worlds.
@@mugan5011 Idk T1 matches were fun in the sense that, outside of T1 fanbase, they were very shaky qualifying for Worlds. Seeing them beating those allegations while slowly getting into form was nice to see (i.e, vs BLG, G2, and slapping TES).
@@senbonkzakura7991 Every matches, because they got the most viewers at every matches, if that's not hype, then other matches with much less views should be called completely dead
i can see why they are looking reo replace bwipo if it comes down to it. hes a good vocal leader but man alot of their losses are on him. like do you trade stable laning for communication or hwat.
The problem is the same than for faker for me. Replace bwippo because of skill isue, ok maybe. Will you win more game. I'm not sure. Bwippo is literally the man they need he take all blame speak frankly to all media for them and is the one who tank it all playing all time weak side for the team and giving most of the info keeping them together. If you have a better player and leader ok if not... you win in skill and stability top. But anyway they don't play around top they need a vocal leader more than 30 or 40 farm and 2 kill. He literally initiate 40% of their fight every game
@@christophermauro-barias7451 i'm not an lcs watcher so idk how he is in regular season but at world i saw him playing good most of the time. Like i recall 2 times where he clearly died for no reason but i see 2 or 3 time when he clearly carried or atleast earned chance to win for flyquest. And i saw him getting swap lane most of the time and playing weakside. So they never gave him a chance to really shine and he still performed. On renek/olaf and urgot i was impressed. I compare him to european and american player because anyway there is no comparison to apply with korean and chinese since you totally destroy the teamplay to go full skill check if you take more import. As we can see squad can only communucate that much in game.
@@marwinnazon7129 he was a huge coinflip at LCS and worlds. his laning is horrible but its his s hot gun calling is that makes him shines. but i feel like sinpsired could carry that and they get someone stable idk
20 My son, take heed to my words; incline thine ear unto my reasons. 21 Do not let them depart from your eyes; keep them in the depths of your heart. 22 For they are life to them that find them, and health to their whole body. 23 Above all that is to be guarded, guard thine heart: for out of it come the springs of life. 24 Turn away falsehood of mouth from thee, and turn away from thee the perverseness of lips. 25 Let your eyes look straight ahead, and your eyelids look straight before you. 26 Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be well ordered. 27 Do not decline to the right hand or to the left; remove your foot from evil. Proverbs 4:20-27
No way to say if TL wouldve gotten rolled against GEN. They played immaculate macro games against WBG and LNG, and stomped GAM. Showed they could compete with the east, even though the meta was very bad for them. They might've shown something had they gone through. Good macro is always better than good hands. Lets not make baseless assumptions, eh Caedrel?
TL made pretty uncharacteristic unforced mistakes in decision making in their losses, both in map play and in team fights. We don’t know how they’d play for sure, but Impact off form and nerves affecting the carries on the team are nontrivial factors. Yeon is also a good ADC (prob best Lucian in the west) but I wouldn’t be surprised if he died in a lot of the positions Massu was in. I also think that Inspired is just better than Umti overall.
I preferred TL over FLY coming into worlds but TL were playing extremely nervous and doing uncharacteristic mistakes. Fly was a lot better than TL this worlds. TL almost lost to PNG...
They really made us believe 🎉 looking forwards to flyquest cooking again next year
you just know next year they'll be terrible
@@trevorsanso32hahaha found the Eu
@@trevorsanso32 EU still mad its funny to see
@@trevorsanso32 why r you hating bro?
nah but he's not wrong it's really hard for any team to have more than 1 year of success; something always goes wrong. That's why T1's multi-year success is so good. but... I believe
so positive. it mustve felt crushing but mad respect for fly. massu is looking like an amazing adc, and hes only a rookie. goddamn.
massu played his ASS off all worlds. really, really impressive from him.
Man I went to only one e-sport game ever but it was Fly GenG and god it feels nice to say "I was there".
London better cheer as hard as we did !
You French people were the best, you've set the bar too high.
It will be hard to top on London, hopefully they step up too.
Bwipo after every loss "it's my bad" - respect
It looks like he is extremely mentally resilient. He just chills but also tryhards while chilling
because he completely inted those losses? lol
@@budderpenguin43 silver peaked
@@maxk880he’s actually not so mentally resilient. I don’t think he should’ve said “we completely lost the game over Baron”. Then he backpedaled after but it’s not something that should’ve been said in the first place
you cant "my bad" your way into relevancy if every loss IS your fault thats... bad
man this was soo good to watch fr Bwipo has been a loose cannon this year but he is a really good teammate
Probably one of the most fun sets to watch. Excited to see how FLY performs next Worlds!
19:35 “Well, we just lost the game over a ****ing super cone” lol
Gen G coms video, they were calling to check baron b4 scryer cone was hit
@@Sanguinarius9999 They're talking about Kiin Rumble blastconing on top of them and killing 2
@@lazerfruit2121 pretty sure it was about Massu hitting the cone at the end, killing him.
@@TheSmartCinema I think it was about the Rumble cone, Bwipo says "we just lost to a super cone, I didn't realize", referring to the fact that he they didn't check if it was there, or didn't consider it a possibility. He was confidently calling to finish baron ("Move, we're gonna finish this nash") but didn't expect a Rumble on top of him, that's why he says "I have to go on this guy", at that point baron was doomed.
The cone that killed Massu didn't matter as much, fight was over anyways + baron to GenG whether it popped or not.
@@attaboy7729 i think ur all wrong. I think he meant that he himself jhit the vision cone on top towards baron. That can be seen by enemy, and they ziggs r and rumble plant after that.
can't believe i was said "who is this guy?" on Massu when i saw him in the Worlds MV. but now all i can say "i better shut my mouth and toss him some respect.". if T1 win again this year, imma say it's thanks to FlyQuest for exposing GenG and fought till the end. o7
5th Trophy dedicated to Flyquest
GenG are already exposed, serial chokers.
Fearless draft and Bwipo should be good combo
Another installment of "K what is this."
16:49 HE FLIPPED HIM BACK TO KOREA - Caedrel 2024 worlds
What a lovely series, man. I was like a kid on Christmas after games one and three
I feel bad for bwipo with that vision cone, I wish he hadn’t hit that because I think they could have snowballed that into a win and it would have been awesome for them, they are such a wholesome and positive team!
Cant praise Massu and Busio enough. They really stepped us this series
they were insanely good but obviously got a bit too stressed when only 1 win away. A bit more experience and they will be godlike
Dude im big happy for fly quest, they did really great
Plus their coms, they all seem pretty cool
I couldnt imagine being on a stage and when you make a huge play, the crowd goes absolutely nuts
Fly is gonna be f*ing fire with fearless draft.
It feels like Flyquest was the Coffin, T1 was the hammer and nail.
That Skarner ult last fight was so weird, he's either the goat or missed on kalista, but how could he fail it that far in that direction? It's really possible that was intended to predict fiddle ult dude, if that's the case, that's insane
Fail? Wdym fail Canyon landed it onto fiddle even in GenG voice coms he was shouting Fiddle Ult maybe your eyes are failing you?
i'd guess the horizon focus proc on massu or the smolder ult gave vision, either way pretty quick reaction with the skarner ult prediction
@@SStrikeFurydid you read the comment?
9:13
"there's a guy in the pit" 😂
They completely forgot Kled's existence lol
The fact that Busio and Massu didnt say a word on the the game 3 early skirmish talks about the HUGE Sinergy they have, its massive.
Respect to Flyquest. What was supposed to be a clown show turned out to be a fight fest. Flyquest made GenG bleed for a spot on semis.
Imagine Fly did the dream playoff bracket, Gen.G -> T1 -> BLG -> World Champs. They looking great for next year, hope the best!
If you look at this team, they remind me a lot of G2, they play better when they are having fun which they seem to have every game.
The team atmosphere seems to be really high , In contrast to G2 this year who looked pretty Defeated from the start.
To be honest, it is fairly easy to have that mentality when nobody expects you to win or go far in the tournament. The real pressure starts when people expects you to win.
And G2 were playing while knowing they'd likely be fired
@@DasSnekhonestly I disagree, it’s been like that since summer split it’s feel like the combination of pressure, and the fact that they’re exhausted for trying to play like an asian team that burn them out so hard. Remember they almost eliminated BLG from swiss.
@@Torannn These are not mutually exclusive things. I'm pretty sure being removed from your team looming on the horizon will impact mental on top of everything else.
I don't see how them 'almost' eliminating BLG is relevant here.
@@Torannn if only it was a Bo5 and not a useless Bo3 would shut these EU copers up so hard 🤦🏻♂️
I will never doubt Bwipo again. He told me to believe and I did and he rewarded us all.
Truly inspirational. Made us realize just how much Gods can Bleed.
they just needed one more clutch!!
13:19 that kass pick suprise them hella hard XD
I guess it's great into a jungler like nunu ?
Flyquest o7 made me believe
huge respect for flyquest, I REALLY want them to win against gen g tho
i like the Fly quest mindset on worlds. lets have a good time while trying to win worlds
As a eu fan I wish they come with new picks for the americas ,such a fun time every time when teams start using off meta picks .
bwipo sed its my bad 6 times btw massu has great future jungle will be changed for sure with support
I wasnt a fan of both, but FLY made me actually rooting for them and felt sad when they couldnt make it. Thank god chovy smolder otp got punished in semi by none other than the team that they won against for 2 years straight😂
as much as i find bwipo to be insufferable with his attitude ect. He is exactly the type of teammate you want in the thick of things on that stage. He says my bad even if its not, he tries to engage his team pre game to calm nerves, he is extremely talented at his role and he communicates constantly. Anyone with any competitive experience will always respect that part regardless of everything else. A true leader in those regards.
MASSSUUUUU
They were eliminated but they never failed. I respect you guys 👏👏👏
I'm pausing at 17:55 and pretending they took Gen.G 3 - 1
Quad ♥
BWIIIPOOO
bwipo mental GOAT
8:57, yah at worlds the meta shift seemed to really hurt TL. The entire team looked lost in macro without being able to pick an adc mid.
Also, unsure what happened to impact he performed phenomenally this entire split but definitely felt like a liability during worlds.
bidulgi is pigeon i am bidulgi
inspired doesnt have smite for 5 minutes gets him behind lol
this team is like 2019 g2 from temu
If fly for some reason decides to change roaster that would be stupid lol
I've heard things about Bwipo leaving maybe. He was full mental before worlds on twitch
You can understand why GENG didn't post their losing matches. They got destroyed lmao.
Bwipo is carrying comps so bad. How can they even think about kicking him
The most hype and fun matches where from FLY and T1.
Which T1 match? So far this tournament none of them have been that fun
I guess that's T1 fan bias, because other than the set where T1 were proactive and they dominated GEN, the rest is forgettable from T1.
@@mugan5011 Idk T1 matches were fun in the sense that, outside of T1 fanbase, they were very shaky qualifying for Worlds. Seeing them beating those allegations while slowly getting into form was nice to see (i.e, vs BLG, G2, and slapping TES).
what match was hype from t1 ?
@@senbonkzakura7991 Every matches, because they got the most viewers at every matches, if that's not hype, then other matches with much less views should be called completely dead
BUSIOOOO
FNC Bwipo could never compare to Fly Bwipo
If you think about it, flyquest won 3 games against the LCK
Beat NA team and go to quarter Lmao 😂. God i love this team
EU discuised as NA is the way to go vs Korea
this massu guy was smurfing
-1 slot for NA next year, the boys didn't deserve it
Bwipo is big boy
Do we think Flyquest takes a game off T1 if they beat GenG?
Bwipo was right.
Fly quest would do better than any of the lck teams, did i hear that right?
All this and they won't even make worlds next year
dude, thanks god flyquest didnt won, guys, WE HAD T1 VS GENG IN WORLD SEMIS, that was history
Petition to disband TES
i can see why they are looking reo replace bwipo if it comes down to it. hes a good vocal leader but man alot of their losses are on him. like do you trade stable laning for communication or hwat.
The problem is the same than for faker for me. Replace bwippo because of skill isue, ok maybe. Will you win more game. I'm not sure. Bwippo is literally the man they need he take all blame speak frankly to all media for them and is the one who tank it all playing all time weak side for the team and giving most of the info keeping them together. If you have a better player and leader ok if not... you win in skill and stability top. But anyway they don't play around top they need a vocal leader more than 30 or 40 farm and 2 kill. He literally initiate 40% of their fight every game
@@marwinnazon7129 okay but faker is still better than most mids and his issues is wrists not skill issue. bwipo is a liabilty most of the time.
@@christophermauro-barias7451 i'm not an lcs watcher so idk how he is in regular season but at world i saw him playing good most of the time.
Like i recall 2 times where he clearly died for no reason but i see 2 or 3 time when he clearly carried or atleast earned chance to win for flyquest. And i saw him getting swap lane most of the time and playing weakside. So they never gave him a chance to really shine and he still performed. On renek/olaf and urgot i was impressed.
I compare him to european and american player because anyway there is no comparison to apply with korean and chinese since you totally destroy the teamplay to go full skill check if you take more import. As we can see squad can only communucate that much in game.
@@marwinnazon7129 he was a huge coinflip at LCS and worlds. his laning is horrible but its his s hot gun calling is that makes him shines. but i feel like sinpsired could carry that and they get someone stable idk
fly wouldnt be the same without him
they played against fraud meta abuser geng
20 My son, take heed to my words; incline thine ear unto my reasons.
21 Do not let them depart from your eyes; keep them in the depths of your heart.
22 For they are life to them that find them, and health to their whole body.
23 Above all that is to be guarded, guard thine heart: for out of it come the springs of life.
24 Turn away falsehood of mouth from thee, and turn away from thee the perverseness of lips.
25 Let your eyes look straight ahead, and your eyelids look straight before you.
26 Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be well ordered.
27 Do not decline to the right hand or to the left; remove your foot from evil.
Proverbs 4:20-27
This is what happens when GenG have the single worst series of their career and Fly have the best series of their career.
first
Third
Second
fourth
No way to say if TL wouldve gotten rolled against GEN.
They played immaculate macro games against WBG and LNG, and stomped GAM. Showed they could compete with the east, even though the meta was very bad for them.
They might've shown something had they gone through. Good macro is always better than good hands.
Lets not make baseless assumptions, eh Caedrel?
TL made pretty uncharacteristic unforced mistakes in decision making in their losses, both in map play and in team fights. We don’t know how they’d play for sure, but Impact off form and nerves affecting the carries on the team are nontrivial factors.
Yeon is also a good ADC (prob best Lucian in the west) but I wouldn’t be surprised if he died in a lot of the positions Massu was in. I also think that Inspired is just better than Umti overall.
I preferred TL over FLY coming into worlds but TL were playing extremely nervous and doing uncharacteristic mistakes. Fly was a lot better than TL this worlds. TL almost lost to PNG...